Wuthering Waves | IS JINHSI A PAY-TO-WIN TRAP? WORTH SUMMONING OR NOT? WHY I WON'T PULL ON HER.

[@natojigames]

Hi! Are you summoning for Jinhsi or not? EDIT: Kind reminder, this is still a pre-release video (should add “as per now” in the next ones for timely reference) and updates will always occur in between for such! Jinhsi DMG seems to have been improved to compare to the info available at editing time - meanwhile, the need to get copies (her S2 to get full free 50 stacks!) remains the same if you really want to take her to the next level from her updated DmG, and making her more versatile in team composition as you won’t need to focus mostly on offfield units/damage in the set up. If anyone wants to help in sharing latest updates on any old published video, please share your links/sources instead of “i've heard of from leaks/probably like..”, if you can. I will definitely pin it for viewers to check your infos if that is taken from any data set available. Otherwise, we will all get the final/confirmed version at release date. II will maybe do a separate video as it seems nowadays some are confused or misinterpreting what 'pay-to-win' means on purpose. Its original definition (Google it/or any Dictionary) has never been related to "win" anything (i.e.: never been a PvP term only), or "being forced to spend on to progress" - it is defined as "the practice of paying to get weapons, abilities, etc. that gives you an advantage over players who do not spend money' - nothing more, it helps you to progress faster in any game and it is not a pejorative term that should trigger anyones anxiety or negativity towards other members. Stay tuned for that, i am gonna unleash few decades of experience and hopefully square out this topic as best as i could. Remember to give that video a like and subscribe to support the channel: kzbin.info/door/FPaDfqQTz-EGzPfWbg7fow

[@LostWallet]

actually, she cannot be interrupted from het basic attack chain. if she dash durring her attack chain, she will resume where she left off and not restart from beginning. that is what I heard from the other leaks

[@natojigames]

Thx LW! Yes for the dash, makes sense (if you are referring to her R1) - as per the basic attacks chain having anti-interruption, would love to see it! Could not find any leak/translation so far about it, unfortunately like Sanhua R1 that has anti-interruption (but only briefly mentioned in her S2 chain) , I wish Kuro could add up anti interruption on skills description in the future. Also, it definitely has a scale/percentage as seen in Sanhua S2… might probably do a topic video about it, thanks for the lead!

[@LostWallet]

@@natojigames yeh, so many mistranslation in the leak. I hope they fix those when release

[@fashyakupercent20]

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[@daviduser779]

First of all the kit and the weapon have been showed in this video is pre buffed jinhsi.. So anything thats said here most likely aint going to be applied.. 1st. now she have 50 incondenced stacks and their multiplier got much higher than before 2nd. She now gets two stacks everytime a off field character does coordinated attack.. 3rd her basic attacks in her incarnation state counts as skill dmg now. 4th her weapon got a massive buff now the passive can be triggered much easier and it lasts for 12 seconds without any cooldown 5th you literally avoided how cracked jue is.. even before she was cracked and now shes even better echo dealing godlike dmg.. a character's potential doesn't only come from base kit but also the godlike 4 cost echo. There are some things you didn't mention: 1st and the most importantly.. whenever you outro with jinhsi her her per 3 seconds stack generation has been reduced to per 1 seconds and it lasts for 20 seconds.. which means a character like mortefi can generate about 20 stacks just in 10 seconds.. adding your other characters's combo with that its so easy to build stacks because of that.. What i saw is so many wrong information here especially since youre showing her old kit and avoiding one of the most important part of her kit which is outro already..

[@daviduser779]

Also about the combo she does.. you can easily dodge in mid air and continue the combo it's not as hard..

[@Aicy2008]

If you like the effects and gameplay then get her, its just that simple, you play what you want

[@Yewrenegade]

Amen dude

[@wantsomered3815]

me 80% of every gasha game I pick lol🤣

[@lilspookay]

This is outdated her entire kit got buffed, including weapon

[@lilspookay]

She's a powerhouse by herself

[@magnusorion9708]

It's true. She has 50 incant stacks now, +increased stack multiplier form 26-44% per stack , basic atks in incant state is now considered as resonance dmg, increased stack gain from coordinated atks. Not to mention her weapon buff uptime from 2.5 secs to 12 sec. It's crazy.

[@mikelshuo9071]

​@magnusorion9708 she was mid before though for a 5 star so it was warranted.

[@omeganoelf.6173]

@@mikelshuo9071 yeah, apparantly her damage on her prebuff is way lower than jiyan

[@SADJ1990]

Didnt her s6 got nerfed ?

[@Mordred_King]

Jinhsi is a little bit a whale bait, is true that they buffed her damage but only under certain conditions, a F2P player will never reach 50 stack of incandescence in a 10 seconds uptime that she has so this mean that without sequences you will never see her maximun damage potential especially in the first rotation is literally impossible to achieve, maybe if we delay the rotation 5 or 10 seconds more should be possible but is annoying and a waste of time especially in the tower with a timer to kill the bosses, Changli is looking more stronger and a better character at S0 than her imo

[@Yewrenegade]

I am skiping both Jinshi or Changli, not because both are pay to win traps, but because of low asterites and Im saving for Goushun and Camellya, possible Collab characters too so I aint risking it. Ill pull for Jinshi the best Vanilla wife when her banner comes back, gonna treat her right

[@magnusorion9708]

Technically you don't have to pay money, just save up your premium corals and eventually you'll be able to trade them in for 2 more wavebands. Besides it's more worth it to trade in for wavebands as it's cheaper compared to trading in for 80 pulls. Edit: it's 360 per waveband for limited 5 star character but still 45 radiant tides if you convert, so it's more worth it than pulling for another copy of the character.

[@sora0674]

you need 360 corals to get 1 limited characters' waveband tho.

[@QMS9224]

@@sora0674 in terms of s2, i think many people even f2p will have 360 corals saved by the time they get to s1 and the weapon. So likely people wont be buying 2 wavebands, but it still saves you an entire pity for free

[@louishu8214]

Yinling's weapon is not only for electro damage, it increases all attributes by 12%.

[@natojigames]

Thx Louis! Appreciate you taking the time for spotting - my bad on that one short, will look at cutting it asap. Cheers! Edit: Amended 👍🏼

[@neoborneo07]

Does the weapon effect stack ? I have stringmaster on yinlin and verina, and the main dps is chalcaro.

[@JadeParaoh]

good thing i fully built spectro rover echo to the fullest no need to build it again just put it to jinhsi

[@carlosbriseno3802]

We all should pay to support wuthering waves

[@midwestairway]

Jinshi will be the only dps who has access to resistance shred -10% this can give her 30% more damage, this is an easy way for f2p to do more damage, I feel like people are trying to push a narrative rather than doing a real impartial analysis, she is a good unit to have, changli gives two buffs that are exclusive to the next dps on field, and since encore has long animations, she will not be able to be played in her in a quick swap rotation, but people will have to play her like more of an on field dps, she is meant for future teams or you just give up on her quick swap game play, the character that will be of more value " has easy access to more free dps" us Jinshi, changli is more of a pick for future character release

[@wrath8704]

Facts doomposting is always meta🤣

[@natojigames]

Thx Mid, appreciate you bringing topic about RES! Are you referring to Attribute RES or Vibration RES? Can you share any link about these for Jinhsi? Genuinely could not find any information/mention in her kit about those so far. About DPS and reducing Attribute RES, Havoc Rover has it down the line on S4.

[@mikelshuo9071]

still don't think its better to run spectro rover because at the end of the day u can play mortefi and yinlin to get 2 more stacks per second while they are off field and their ults are up. + rover sharing an element means she can't even get stacks. Stacking the Forte otherwise is abysmally slow.

[@mikelshuo9071]

​@natojigames they are referring to s6 spectro rover.

[@omeganoelf.6173]

changli has defense ignore though

[@juniisenpai3777]

We all know if you P2W, community would love you since youre supporting Kuro. So its a Win-Win. literally "vote with your wallet"

[@zaneburton1774]

Me having 80 pulls ready bc I like her hair 😂

[@Butterfreeftvr]

The question is do you want Jinhsi or Chanli? I like Jinhsi skills so yeah enough said

[@Saberdud]

scar

[@Butterfreeftvr]

@@Saberdud would I be wrong to assume you like Roland in pgr?

[@gregwodecki2734]

Smart worlds. Thank You

[@KhawarJuni]

😂 Sad to say u are wrong... This is not pay to win... U will force urself to pay... Not pay to win by any means... Pay to win means u want a character and u spend money ur self not forced by game ok.. This is ur problem not game problem.. 😊

[@natojigames]

😂Let’s take the proper definition instead of interpreting it: “P2W: involving or relating to the practice of paying to get weapons, abilities, etc. that give you an advantage over players who do not spend money.” There is no mention of “being forced by the game.” ..if we agree that going for her S3 gives us the only way to get free full stacks to her core mechanic/dmg multiplayer, and we consider astrites as buyable resources in shop. I thought that was appropriate, my call.

[@KhawarJuni]

@@natojigames ahh u can't simply expect a game to be totally free... Company will get drowned... They have to pay their employees.. What u are expecting totally free to play... Thats not how its work bro... 🤣 They never say it it is totally free to play... And u cant expect that.... Either 😆 by far u can also do stuffs with free to win but it take some time tk reach that lvl.. With money u can do quickly.... So not a lot of difference...

[@RariDaGreat]

No character is Pay 2 win imo. There is no PVP in this game. If you need to pull a character to complete content, it’s a skill Issue. I say this as there is someone posting videos on Reddit and KZbin beating bosses with Main DPS Baizhi.

[@natojigames]

Appreciate sharing your opinion B! I have added a pinned comment three days ago with the dictionary definition of P2W, few are still confused and misinterpreting its use here as it has nothing to do with PvP. It means spend for weapons, abilities, progress. As per the Baizhi example, I have seen it, and further more, many solo clear with unit at level 60 can be found - but 99% of players base will never bother wasting their time at that stage to climb/solo clear lvl70 bosses. As per the highlight in this video about the fact of her s2 as the only way to get a full free stacks of incandescence, it remains the same. And this is a huge rotation boost no one can contest, regardless of skills management - it provides as well a more versatile team comp/playstyle as you can get rid of some offfield units with such boost. That was the point. Cheers!

[@RariDaGreat]

@@natojigames my comment are to the other people who were saying characters power creep and p2w