WW2: The Resource War - Arsenal of Democracy - Extra History - Part 1

[@AdobadoFantastico]

This is a great topic. Economics are critical, but rarely discussed in lay conversations of armed struggle. People get so caught up in the battles, maps, and characters that this kind of stuff gets really glossed over.

[@jamesrandles6514]

+Anguel Roumenov Bogoev You can have a large well trained army but if you don't have the economy to support it in a war then the army means nothing.

[@swiftmatic1189]

Amateurs look at tactics. Professionals look at logistics.

[@Sylocat]

You know, audiences roll their eyes when fantasy stories talk about trade routes and economic intrigue, and wish things would get back to the cool battle scenes, but I like stories that point out that recruiting, transporting and feeding troops is often a more important part of warfare than using cool tactics and hardware.

[@Mercure250]

+Rabbit Cube Yup. That's why I love HoI 3 : We need to manage the army, yes, but also the economics, politics, technological advance (and not like Civilization did it), spying, diplomacy...and even in the army, we need to manage organisation, morale (not alot, but still), manpower, upgrading, and of course supplies But seems like it's too complicated for some people =P

[@minhkhangtran6948]

+Rabbit Cube You're kidding me? THAT is what i like to watch best in a war story. Showing it good, and you could see how a country doesn't even need to go into war to know it's going to win, or winning without a fight. A great general only take you so far if you don't have a great economy in the first place.

[@sirrobertwalpole913]

+Rabbit Cube I've only ever heard people mock fantasy authors for failing to consider such things.

[@Mercure250]

Sir Robert Walpole What will you do in this series, sir? Ah, nervermind. Surprise me. =)

[@unematrix]

+Mercure250 you made me intrigued. i'm going to download it and see if i like it... and even buy it if it's as good as you say ;)

[@GlitchyShadow13]

that picture of hitler literally eating czechoslovakia must've been so much fun to draw

[@jimli3890]

ikr lmao

[@inactiveaccount8103]

reminds me of vore lol.

[@becausecanada6543]

Where is the scene

[@darth1nsidious726]

GlitchyShadow it was awesome

[@whydoineedalastname5989]

GlitchyShadow world vore 2

[@Doctorgeo7]

The United States is very fortunate to be literally an ocean away from the world's conflicts. Never have the terrors of war truly hit the US in a broad and personal way like many of the other world's nations.

[@Loafed_Beans]

Uh, we actually did have experience with the horrors of industrialized war on our soil. It was the civil war which utterly wiped out a chunk of the south and some areas of the north.

[@HeadsFullOfEyeballs]

+Cheekiest Breeki That was a tiny little warlet compared to the big European wars of the 19th and 20th century though, to be fair. I know the civil war looms big in the US popular imagination, but it really wasn't that big a deal in the grand scheme of things. It had very little effect on the rest of the world, for one thing, unlike Europe burning down twice in a row in a span of 40 years.

[@Loafed_Beans]

Heads Full Of Eyeballs It was a big deal in the scheme of things though. To this day it was the single most deadly war for america, and the out come strengthened the nation for the future world and pressed us to expand westward.

[@Loafed_Beans]

Heads Full Of Eyeballs also, many european nations sent military officers to study the tactics and what both armies are doing. Prussia used the union tactic of keeping railroads closely following the armies to keep the well supplied in the Franco-Prussian war and for most european armies advanced the formations to more loose to reduce casualties that were seen in the mass volley fires of the civil war.

[@HeadsFullOfEyeballs]

Cheekiest Breeki That's the point though, isn't it? The single most deadly war for America wasn't particularly deadly by the standards of Europe. I live in Germany -- every larger city in this country was bombed to rubble in the last war we had. Many millions of Germans died. I see the results of it whenever I leave the house, even today -- there are no wooden buildings left in the city, and even the stone ones all have new roofs and upper stories. Both my granddads have visible scars from the war. Half the country was occupied by the western allies and the other half by the Soviets. Reunification didn't happen until 1989. It didn't have some vague, abstract effect like "strengthening the nation" or "pressing us to expand westward". That's an order of magnitude different from the US civil war. And the same is true of the first World War, and the Napoleonic wars, and the 30 Years' War(s).

[@andrewpowell2730]

Thank you Extra Credits for doing sponsorship better than any other KZbin channel I have every seen. Always up-front, never with long-winded commercials, and just all-around tastefully done. You guys make my favourite style of history videos on KZbin and I just wanted to let you know.

[@Geyrel]

"Amateurs talk about tactics, but professionals study logistics." - Gen. Robert H. Barrow, USMC

[@venombug7476]

Bro that is a beautiful quote, thank you.

[@derpynerdy6294]

But a better strategy tactics can Swallow a not so good strategy with good resources

[@tamberlame27]

@@derpynerdy6294 amateur

[@gen169]

@@derpynerdy6294 but good resources gives time for you to counter the good strategy

[@derpynerdy6294]

@@gen169 yeah

[@johnfrommanagement6037]

EXTRA HISTORY WITH PARADOX INTERACTIVE? I THINK IM IN LOVE!!!

[@Erklofta]

+Your Neighborhood KZbin Commenter Black Arnold Schwarzenegger

[@ijnakagi2066]

Same I need to get hearts of iron 4

[@Poopdahoop]

Please don't shy away from showing us more numbers! We love numbers!

[@ConnorHiggins]

+Ado Siljak Ditto, the graphs grounded those numbers perfectly well.

[@pepek42]

+Ado Siljak Yeah! Even more - showing numbers below polls would be nice too;)

[@jaronjonathan5094]

More numbers!

[@exeggcutertimur6091]

Agreed. Paradox's entire series of games is largely about resources and number crunching.

[@Poopdahoop]

+MidgardEagle Haha, I don't play HOI, I just think graphs are cool. xD

[@NemesisTWarlock]

And once again, the EC crew do sponsored video series right. :)

[@The_Murder_Party]

Andar Broment also, yay paradox!

[@caulifex]

Don’t forget the sponsors, Wargaming Dominations and Paradox all sponsor specific episodes: Wargaming sponsors WW2, which most of their game I think is set at that time. Dominations sponsored Cold War, which they’re about to release and Paradox

[@idk-rv1by]

Id have to say used to

[@glorylyfe8314]

Paradox being supportive is just as important

[@Herstal8389]

and now we have them bitching about evil races and nazis...i makes me sad :c

[@FunkAndFluff]

This is the stuff of war which earns more of my love and warrants more of my attention; only a sliver of a war is in its fighting. I really love how your history series emphasize resource allocation, movement of military forces, etc. when feasible.

[@becton98]

+Jeffrey Halvorsen you have to remember that war isnt totally maths, a huge art of war is ideology, look at the vietnam war, the irish war for independance, the american revolution after the colonial fleet occupied the 13 capitals, even the first 12 months of the war britain was outmatched with no allies

[@p0xus]

The ending credits music is my favorite yet.

[@robertwalpole360]

+Andem Yeeeeess?

[@sirrobertwalpole913]

+Robert Walpole I AM SPARTACUS! .... I mean Walpole.

[@sirrobertwalpole913]

***** Of course.

[@robertwalpole360]

Sir Robert Walpole #OhWalpole

[@sirrobertwalpole913]

Robert Walpole #ItWasWalpole

[@CruzaComplex]

Shoutout to Paradox. Fantastic game company doing fantastic things. You guys are the best.

[@polandballcanintospace1050]

+CruzaComplex I would add my shout out to this comment but its split into 4 DLC's valued at 3 cents each.

[@Logisticious_gg]

+Polandballcanintospace Funny because it's true. But it's still better than 4 DLCs for 60 dollars total according to EA.

[@DudeTheGasmask]

+Polandballcanintospace Still acceptable compared to CA's DLCs.

[@jachthejoke3589]

+CruzaComplex Still waiting for that Vicky 3 announcement :l

[@CruzaComplex]

Polandballcanintospace Cheap, meaningful DLC is always welcome.

[@VT-mw2zb]

The logistics and production side of war are rarely mentioned, yet they the most important part. The propaganda news reels with dashing fully mechanized Panzer divisions look very impressive, but those guys were supplied by horse drawn carts and the infantry division basically walked the entire time. There were records of German troops shot themselves during Barbarossa since they were sick of marching. One more number could be very interesting: prior to the war, Germany had about 1 motor vehicle for 70 Germans. The USA? 1 for 10. The type of fast mechanized war Germany did required motor transports, in terms of trucks. Trucks require gasoline and rubber, the things that Germany lacks, and need importation from ... the Soviet Union. Beyond about 300 km, trucks are inefficient and to move vast quantities of materials, beyond that line, you need railway. Germany did not have enough trains for its own domestic use, much less hope for say ... invasion of the Soviet Union. We all know that Russian railway is of a different gauge than German rails (as are Russian and Chinese gauge). So every yard of rail had to be relaid, every water tower had to be rebuilt (because the Russian blew them up), and new rolling stocks manufactured (because they were evacuated or blown up as well). Impressively, the Quartermaster General of the German Armed Forces predicted very accurately that a German invasion of the Soviet Union would run out of supplies at around 700km mark. Approximately Smolensk. Which was the jumping off point for Operation Typhoon, the attemp to grab Moscow; which failed. The goal of Barbarossa was the AA line, which is about from the starting point of Barbarossa to Moscow twice over.

[@AFT_05G]

Xuan Vinh To Germany had 1 motor vehicles per 40 people,about 25 per 1000 people.What did you get that data from?

[@Bacchasnail]

You guys made a good choice with doing this sponsored by paradox. Not only is this an amazing mini series, hearts of iron 4 is a really good game.

[@lordz19]

I love how my history teacher assigned us these videos and it's sponsored by HOI4, a game I have like 1000 hours in.

[@leothewhiteranger]

Honestly your Teacher has a smart idea. While many students might be less inclined to read a book or article, a video essay on the topic? Easier to digest

[@Exeggutor_Enjoyer]

@@leothewhiteranger I think that the visualization provided in a video is helpful when learning new information

[@Demogarose]

I for one am wholeheartedly enjoying this recent trend of sponsored Extra History videos. It makes the EC team money (which keeps them afloat) works as advertising for the games/companies doing the sponsoring, and, most importantly, gives us a series on a topic in history we might not have otherwise gotten to learn about and enjoy.

[@el_ias2094]

+Demogarose Seems like a win-win-win situation :D

[@_bisclavret]

More history than the History Channel! :D

[@JanSenCheng]

not really saying much.

[@Geraduss]

+Wry Naught Reading a paragraph of a history brochure in a random museum is more history then the "History" Channel.

[@JanSenCheng]

Geraduss banging your head against a cathedral is more history than the History Channel.

[@firecage7925]

+Wry Naught Well. Wikipedia has more accurate history than the history channel...

[@Geraduss]

From where do you think they get the information they used for that once in a year "History" video. Wikipedia ofc

[@IceLordCryo]

Paradox is such a great company! Love all their games

[@itaybron]

+IceLordCryo you're not wrong friend

[@penguincoalition4207]

They might overdue it with the dlcs but at least there games are quality, plus they are awesome with there community. Hence why they approached extra history.

[@grandmofftarkin8519]

Italy: does anything Also italy: heyyy Germany can ya... Germany: we already did Italy: still proceeds to fail Germany: *WERES THE AUCHSLESS BUTTON*

[@googledestruction9254]

Me: *Finds oil* Every country in war: *M I N E*

[@mrhalfwit972]

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[@rempuia69]

No America: did you say oil??.... Also America: *FRREEEDDOOMMM!!!*

[@will6412]

Rempuia Ralte big funny

[@marcleslac2413]

Us : *So you have chosen surprise democracy*

[@kittenkommentries5796]

This needs an “My/our meme”

[@Voyhkah]

I love everything about what you do here! The system where game companies sponsor educational content relating to their product is perhaps the best example of Native Advertising done right that I've ever seen. I also love how, instead of just doing another show about the battles, the generals, and the weapons, you're diving into the economics.

[@Goblin_Mom]

Respect to Paradox for just straight up sponsoring the spread of knowledge to garner interest in their game. Personally, learning about history doesn't really make me want to play a video game about it, but the fact that they've made this part of their marketing strategy definitely makes me interested in them as a developer.

[@Leivve]

+Zac Spurgeon Paradox's marketing is just straight up evil. They garner interest in their games/expansions AND get good PR doing it. It's every other publisher's wet dream.

[@Goblin_Mom]

+Leivve Then maybe other publishers should have interesting, intelligent marketing instead of treating their consumer base like idiots like a lot of them do.

[@ModelOmegaForReal]

Yay! Canada got mentioned in an Extra History episode! Just a few things extra things to consider from the Canadian perspective. 1)- The Maple Leaf flag wasn't the Canadian flag until the 1960s, if you're going for maximum accuracy (barring the understandable removal of Nazi imagery) you should really use the Red Ensign here. 2)- It's kind of unfair to lump Canada in with the rest of the Empire/Commonwealth, we did declare war autonomously (first non-Euro nation to do so) and worked together with FDR (who was barred at the time from giving direct aid to the belligerents thanks to the neutrality acts) to assemble products with American supplies and ship them to the UK, along with organizing the BCATP to train pilots for the eventual air battles that were to come. Also, if anyone in the comments is further curious about the subject, John Green made a primer on the subject with "World War II: A War for Resources" on the Crash Course World History series, check it out!

[@AegixDrakan]

+ModelOmega Yeah, Canada was actually no longer a dominion by this point. We were granted full nationhood after WW1, if I remember right.

[@ModelOmegaForReal]

Aegix Drakan It's complicated. Canada became a "federated" country with the passing of the 1867 BNA act, but out foreign policy was still tied to the UK's, it wasn't until the 1931 Statute of Westminster that we got control over foreign policy, and if you want to be REALLY stirct Canada didn't become truly indep. until the 1982 Constitution Act because that gave us control over, well, the constitution. (though nobody before in UK would've dared trying to interfere with what was recognized as a sovereign nation)

[@ModelOmegaForReal]

***** Canadian fought (and died) alongside British and Hong Kong troops in the failed defense of the city as well as with the Allied troops in the Battle of France before the US became an (active) participant.

[@justinpurdy3117]

+ModelOmega Always nice to hear about countries that were involved in WWII but that haven't been talked about over and over again.

[@dannycostello]

Canada would probably come and fight for her mother aswell if need be its good be the old mother country sometimes you younger ones need looking after and visa versa. West will always be strong!

[@theashennamedjerry3203]

Yo, honestly if you guys only did history vids id still watch. I flipin love these.

[@orangeinferno]

LITTLE DID EXTRA HISTORY KNOW,THAT SPONSOR WOULD BECOME THE BIGGEST MEME FOR HISTORY EVER

[@Mathmachine]

Paradox funding an Extra History series? YES PLEASE!

[@Mathmachine]

+Mystogan Edolas That's ok, we'll just get some more ships and increase our trade income to make up for it.

[@NonApplicable1983]

Fun fact: a heart made of iron would be extremely poisonous.

[@cleverslim1331]

+Rodrigo Ugarte (machiavellianFictionist) and wouldn't function

[@TheBoundFenrir]

+cleverslim T eh, if it was 100% iron no it wouldn't. But if it was made MOSTLY of iron, and had internals more reminescent of rubber and plastic and oil (tubes and hydrolics), then it would function just fine till the poisoning got to you.

[@sergiojuanmembiela6223]

+Rodrigo Ugarte (machiavellianFictionist) Ahhh... no. Our chemistry uses iron in a number of ways and knows how to deal with it (from using it to transport oxygen to getting rid of it). You will need a massive amount of iron to alter the body chemistry so much that it causes harm; certainly the little lost from oxidation would not be enough. Poisons are chemicals that our body does not know how to deal with and that interfere into the usual chemistry.

[@NonApplicable1983]

I mean if you ate a heart made of iron it would be very poisonous.

[@TheBoundFenrir]

Rodrigo Ugarte maybe, but I bet the real issues would be A) fitting it between your teeth, B) down your throat, and then C) through your digestive tracts (because your body is NOT going to digest that lump of iron fast enough), including but not limited to the exit. Would it kill you? I don't know, but I bet there would be a hospital trip involved regardless.

[@chicagoschoolofmemeonomics2508]

Why did Manchuria look happy when it was annexaded the imperial army was brutal

[@michaelparks4408]

the Manchurian appeared happy because he represents the puppet Japan put in place to govern the region. it's supposed to be ironic due to how destructive the conquest was.

[@chicagoschoolofmemeonomics2508]

didnt think of it like that.....very clever

[@suwinkhamchaiwong8382]

It's a puppet.

[@cshairydude]

That US flag has 61 stars.

[@VulpesFidelis]

Guess some of us still dream of empire… err, I mean extra liberation. To create Extra History™. 😎

[@Kjajo]

@@VulpesFidelis FOR UNION AND FOR LIBERTY

[@azelfdaboi5265]

The American Dream

[@preethikashan]

you counted?

[@lylasaur6694]

*looks at Canada*

[@KaraKuroness]

Your best videos aren't even your Extra Credits ones. They're your Extra Histories and your Design Clubs. These are what I'd love to see more of.

[@lcmiracle]

I came when you showed those numbers, I need moar, MOARR!!!!

[@idnyftw]

+LCwavesAtYa oh man, you too?

[@extrahistory]

Step back and take a strategic look at World War II. This bonus series is brought to you by Hearts of Iron IV! We will be airing bonus episodes on Tuesdays for the next four weeks. The regular Saturday series will continue as normal! This means there will be two episodes of Extra History every week.

[@Nosgoroth]

+Extra Credits Extra extra Extra History? YISS

[@bhproductions100]

Nice

[@AAP7205]

+Extra Credits I'd just like to thank you guys for all the great work you do, This series always feeds my love of history and puts a smile on my face.

[@captinblackbeard6474]

+Extra Credits god damnnit! i want moar naow

[@Vicioussama]

+Extra Credits I love these videos :) I still wish you guys would make another channel "Extra History" and put all the videos there in their respective playlists. So a "Justinian" play list, an "Admiral Yi" play list, etc. Instead of one massive extra history play list on your main channel.

[@sneal8526]

Note To Self: If i ever make a game about history, call extra history.

[@ireallyhatemakingupnamesfo1758]

And never invade Russia in the winter, Unless you are the Mongols

[@JosephPriceArt]

+I really hate making up names for this kind of stuff *initiates Mongoltage*

[@joshuasmith8683]

No one Conquers Afghanistan ... unless you're THE MONGOLS

[@connorderp3702]

Joshua Smith Crash course reference heh

[@vitorleite3095]

No one conquers The Mongols... unless you're the Black Death

[@mrandrews3616]

Hey, I had an exam today at University and one of the questions was about the economic impact of WW2 on Britain. This series was helpful in giving me info on that. Thanks for all the hard work. I owe you guys one.

[@nuur2825]

Paradox going all out with their games lately! I love it!

[@kilo1012]

WILD CARD! *stalin jumps out of the car as the Ghostbusters theme plays*

[@Stephen-Fox]

Seriously, why can't more companies advertise this way?

[@avery8006]

+Gizensha Fox It does seem very effective, you touch a very predictable portion of people with your add money, and people are far more positive towards it.

[@hagamapama]

+Gizensha Fox Well, we've heard from Creative Assembly, Wargaming and Paradox Development Studios, that's 3 of the biggest dev companies out there, in the strategy and military history genre. If they can show that this way of doing things works, you will see copycats, both copycat companies, and other history sites getting sponsored, and that's a good thing

[@Slayer_Jesse]

+Gizensha Fox alot of sponsored videos are crap. EH is an exception.

[@nathanmckenzie904]

+Gizensha Fox Because that would actually mean they are interested in educating people not simply entertaining them and most companies just want you to stay stupid and buy their crap

[@hagamapama]

And yet the three exceptions we've seen so far are among the most successful and stable major developers of recent time.

[@rosicroix777]

TY for doing a video on this little discussed but highly important aspect of WWII, once again you have made me happy that I subscribed

[@stephenkramer7157]

If you guys at Extra History want to do another story as tragic as Justinian's and Suleiman's and as wild, stunning, and ridiculous as the South Sea Bubble and the First Crusade, then you have to do the Burr Conspiracy. In 1804, Aaron Burr, betrayed by all his one time friends, Washington, Jefferson, and Hamilton joined forces with corrupt generals, Spanish spies, British diplomats, and an eccentric Irishman to build a Napoleonic-style empire in Louisiana. Can I get a yay-nay from the commenters?

[@jakkob5488]

Yay!

[@VxlvetCece]

*jefferson voice (daveed diggs)* WHAAAT? (Hamilton my dudes!)

[@gameoverman-h1r]

Yaasss

[@Aaron-dw4fr]

Yay sir

[@Anonymous-xn2xh]

Yay!

[@PaulTheSkeptic]

We think you should do a series on the cold war. Maybe you and your Patreon patrons can vote on it.

[@Tokkemon]

Economics of War are a fascinating topic! Please do more of these!!!

[@MFvanBylandt]

When one of your favourite youtube channels works together with your favourite game maker :D

[@leonverbakel3889]

I thought exactly the same.. xD

[@TurlasThe6]

Great topic! Thanks Paradox! Love your games!

[@robbieflick8208]

4 years later and hearts of iron 4 is still the best strategy game out there

[@abhinavs8109]

play eu4 or victoria 2

[@thespicemasta]

Is no one going to notice that the intro jingle is ripped straight from Actraiser!? Well played Extra History!

[@markhomer6903]

YEAH BOY, PARADOX!! BEST COMPANY IN THE WORLD!

[@markuskekero8363]

+Rainbow Dashtruction yeah they always try to triple dip the shit although they are the parent company of taleworlds

[@markhomer6903]

Well.. there is too much dlc

[@tidebleach8215]

Atlest there are free mods that are better than the dlc

[@IdgaradLyracant]

0:44 Can we get that picture on a T-Shirt with the subtitle "History Can Be Dark"

[@Duke_of_Lorraine]

+Idgarad Lyracant why let an austrian guy with a small mustache get in the way of a peaceful continent ?

[@LordRexasaur]

This is amazing! Thank you Extra History, and thank you paradox!

[@cccaaawww8685]

Dance was genius with static defenses because you don’t need to mobilize regroup fall back nor refuel nor upkeep nearly as much

[@Leonfei]

I'm so glad this has come along. I've been waiting for an EH series on WWII ever since I signed up on Patreon :D

[@Scriptedviolince]

USA OP pls nerf.

[@Mionikoi]

'Merica!

[@TheKeyser94]

+Mionikoi You are a Marica, good for you.

[@nastrael]

USA is totally balanced! You just need to baserush.

[@TheKeyser94]

Nastrael Rowe Yeah, seeing how they are inflating another economic bubble right now, ignoring totally domestic affairs, like the falling infraestructura, basic social issues, etc. And the total corruption in all the levels of the government, that what I call a well balanced country, this a good receipt for a falling empire.

[@Scriptedviolince]

TheKeyser94 You're missing the point.

[@harry1672]

Nice having an ocean between you and the battlefield, although it does make mobilising force slower

[@Paveway-chan]

Like some other bloke said, war economy is rarely something you get to hear much about; it's awesome that you're making this series, EC :P

[@JohnDoe-du2tw]

Thank you Extra Credits and Paradox. This and "games you may not have tried got me into Hearts of Iron and it is now by far my favorite game.

[@trogdog26]

I love how this channel about video games produces so much historical content.

[@spritemon98]

Hoi4 has been around for 6 years. That's wild

[@Celtic13292]

Please do a extra history on Ireland. More importantly 1916 when a rebellion happened. Irish history is so interesting but barley talked about. Thank you.

[@Sammy_Chouchou]

That'd be pretty cool.

[@RickJaeger]

+MANTISTHE 3RD I think you mean "barely." Unless you were making a pun about barley and the well-known Irish association with its juices.

[@mansfield9041]

it's because Southern Ireland is so insignificant

[@Sammy_Chouchou]

+Andre Hogg Is that so?

[@mansfield9041]

That Donger from Donegal quite so

[@mrmundyyy]

0:43 Thank you.. that image will follow me for a loooong time.

[@Apollo9898LP]

+Mr Mundy simultaneously horrific and strangely adorable

[@graverboi13]

Thank you all so, so much for these videos. You guys present the most entertaining, fascinating and unique viewpoints on history that I've ever had the pleasure of giddily awaiting.

[@noahgolden-q9d]

Paradox funding an Extra History series? YES PLEASE!. This is amazing! Thank you Extra History, and thank you paradox!.

[@mbanana23456]

Best sponsorship deal ever

[@thegreatwalrus6574]

Good old Paradox Interactive, home of great games, and a lot of dlc.

[@Elmarby]

There's an interesting clip from Band of Brothers where Webster rants at a column of prisoners passing by the truck column they are on. "Hey, you! That's right, you stupid Kraut bastards! That's right! Say hello to Ford, and General fuckin' Motors! You stupid fascist pigs! Look at you! You have horses! What were you thinking?" The interesting thing being that the Germans had considered full motorization but declined to do it and decided to stick with horses on purpose. This to a small degree to unburden German industry but largely because they did not think Germany would be able to sustain the demands of Petrol, Oil and Lubricants that this massive amount of vehicles would need. Whereas horse feed could not only be readily provided, it was expected to be found even at the end of an overstretched supply line. So when you see German horse drawn artillery in 1944, it is not out of some backwards military notions or make shift arrangement but careful and insightful planning by the German high command. Mind you, ultimately it did not prevent Germany running out of POL products late in the wars as oil facilities were overrun or bombed out.

[@Art1611]

This series starts off very promising! I can't wait for the next episode!

[@lborges1313]

Germany relied so much in power and speed that they never developed good vehicles to keep the supply lines open. Very much when George Foreman shocked the world defeating the unstoppable Mike Tyson. After 8th round the champ ran out of steam and the rest is History! I love your videos! Thank you so much for holding to the channel and I am glad people are investing in your guys talent!

[@AFT_05G]

But they had 2x of France’s economic power.

[@sarysa]

Woo, I hope these outside sponsorships never dry up.

[@PanzerIVAE]

Paradox is sponsoring Extra History because Hearts of Iron 4 is coming up *Hyperventilating*

[@PanzerIVAE]

But seriously doe, having what is probably your favorite Game Developer sponsor one of your favorite KZbin Channels is bloody amazing and exciting

[@tenou213]

God I love history from this perspective.

[@patrickwedlock404]

Boys it is the 5 year anniversary of Hearts of Iron IV and it’s great to see how far this channel has come and the game itself

[@wolfenstien13]

I really do think this is the best form of sponsorship. History of anything is wonderful.

[@underofficerbrandonjoseph6512]

Releases the original game at $10, dlc's amount to $199.

[@lidjungle]

+Brandon Joseph Amen. As much as I like their games, Having all of EU4 makes it a $250 video game. $300 for CK2. That's just insane. Both games are good, not great. (Ok, CK2 is close to great) Both games are seriously lacking in the vanilla state, and asking me to pay $40 for the game, and then $15 more for the game with trade that works... Or $5 to not have Ottomans look like generic white guys. Or another $15 to not have naval battles suck. In many cases $15 for content that feels like it should have been a patch. It always rubs me the wrong way. It's a death by 1,000 paper cuts. I hover over the button to buy and never do, because I don't want to get on that hamster wheel. It's like less convenient micro-transactions.

[@Elementa2006]

I hope you guys would do a series about Mohammad Ali Pasha's reign in Egypt one of these days

[@LarlemMagic]

*very quietly begins to sing, "America, fuck yeah!"*

[@Murcia1061]

LarlemMagic Then burned a foreign Flag

[@Т1000-м1и]

This is a gift for all of humanity

[@ledak7790]

wow so far this is looking like it may be my favorite extra history series yet. Are there any other youtubers or the like who produce similar content, in terms of economics of war and such?

[@prince_nocturne]

I can already hear people complaining about 'USA-centric history' in this, but being totally objective here. The US, and in no small part, Canada as well, were the tipping points to the allies. If the US hadn't joined in, the war would very likely have dragged on instead of 3 more years, but possibly 10, or even more. I still believe the allies would have won in the end, thanks in no small part to the USSR, but the face of Europe would still be vastly different than it is today. The US joined with fresh troops, an untouched industry, and LOTS of money to throw into the war machine. The US didn't have to do it piecemeal like it was, but could dedicate everything. In fact, if the US had thrown in fully at the start, shipping over with the Canadians, it might even have cut the time. But, it might have made it worse, with the US becoming a new target and more focus being shifted to dominating the relatively isolated industrial complex. If someone had managed to take the US's industry and resources, or at the very least cripple it, it would have been HUGE. Fascinating stuff for alternate history possibilities.

[@monkeycaboose6872]

+Xavier Price Especially in Asia.

[@Scriptedviolince]

+Ushio01 Yeah, nobody is knocking the russians. They poured millions of conscripts and guns and tanks and stuff into the war, but where did they get the money, materials, food, weapons, medical supplies, and other miscellaneous things necessary to keep prosecuting the war against Germany? American aluminum for aircraft (and actual aircraft), steel for tanks (and actual tanks), medicine for the soldiers, food for everyone, and whatever weapons would fit on whatever was left of the ship without sinking it in the harbor. Sure, the russians had enough manpower to smother the germans eventually(by sheer weight of the corpses if nothing else), but it would have been very very very very painful.

[@Loalrikowki]

+Rainbow Dashtruction I think the US winning alone in the West would have been a pretty tall order. It's one thing to do an amphibious assault across the English Channel, but if the British Isles fell, where could they possibly have staged from?

[@prince_nocturne]

As I said, I still believe the Allies would have won, and that's mostly due to the shear force of the Russian military might. But it would have taken FAR longer without the fresh supplies and bodies. The US just expedited what was inevitable anyway. The Axis didn't seize enough early victories they needed to keep their momentum going, especially in their eastern front.

[@Kaiserboo1871]

@@Scriptedviolince Without US intervention, the Soviet Union would have lost even more men then they did in our timeline. I still think they would have won, but the cost would have been enormous, potentially rivaling or even exceeding the population loss Paraguay had in the Paraguayan War of 1864. There is a reason why Joseph Stalin said that fascism was defeated by American Steel and Soviet Blood. And considering how reliant the Soviets were on America for raw resources and food, that is a true statement.

[@zaneeh]

I love it how people try and pit it as the Democratic Allies versus the Axis Imperialists . The soviet Union was one of the most powerful nations in the Alliance and the least democratic and The British had one of the largest and oppressive Empires in the world . War is often more complicated.

[@Xeno426]

+WvkingLp Well, it wasn't too oppressive if you lived in England.

[@TheOldBearTime]

+Xeno426 And was English.

[@Thumbdumpandthebumpchump]

Largest? Yes. Most oppressive? Most certainly not.

[@markuskekero8363]

+Cabbadath B they pretty much starved India and went to war with china cause we need to sell these drugs. they weren't the worst but they were still bad

[@zaneeh]

Cabbadath B they were very oppressive in their African and Asian colonies

[@mule8064]

"Upcoming game" Wow, my perspective of time has been screwed

[@danialcourtney5969]

I wish you used the charts more. It gave a better idea and was well made

[@jonathanscott7372]

Resources have always been important in war. Britain twice attacked Denmark during the Napoleonic wars for instance, to keep the route for mast, tree trunks, to be delivered from Russia, around the Baltic open. In the cold Russian weather the trees grew and strong with few branches, and made better masts. Germany principally invades Norway in WW2 to keep the flow of Swedish iron ore flowing. Towards the end of the war petrol also became a rare commodity in Germany. Towards the end of the war Germany had little copper, and wiring was then made with Aluminium / Aluminum.. I was surprised that friends in the former East Germany in the 1990's had an apartment fire caused by a bad aluminium/aluminum copper joint.

[@bluewarbler9034]

"Amateurs talk tactics, but professionals study logistics." -General Robert H. Barrow, USMC

[@cyancat5451]

great britain completely drained india of food resources to feed their soldiers. in fact this was partly why india was granted independence after the war as it lead to a massive famine

[@SolusBatty]

+Cyan Cat Didn't know. But i'm not suprised. I know about shooting unarmed civilian population gatherings.

[@cyancat5451]

General noob such is the disease of empires

[@Newkeassassin]

still waiting on Irelands freedom after the great potato famine

[@gavins.5297]

Cicero If that Island has the manpower and is an Empire and also has war experience then colonizing an a country that isn't completely unified would be easy

[@Josh-mc6cb]

India is my city

[@Taihouchan]

HOI4 Hype! And also Stellaris #MakeSpaceGreatAgain

[@lethoofgulet5029]

+Leafy Is Queer We talking warhammer 40k now?

[@lethoofgulet5029]

+Leafy Is Queer Oh I see nvm then

[@TauGDS]

+Taihou_chan ALL HAIL DE BLORG! please be our friends...

[@ReaverLordTonus]

You gotta respect Yamamoto, he wasn't deluded or overconfident like most of Germany's commanders, he knew declaring war on the US would not end well but still carried out his duties with impressive skill as despite being in the receiving end, the attack on Pearl Harbor was textbook, menacing he was a tactician to be reckoned with. But at the same time he was also a realist. He made it clear that they would have the upper hand for the first 6 months and if they couldn't get the US to agree to an Armistice, they'd sink what's left of their resources to a hopeless defense against the might of the American military. When Yamamoto was informed that the American Carriers survived the attack on Pearl Harbor, there is no doubt he saw Japan's chances dwindle as those carriers meant the US was still in the fight. When they failed to capture midway, he had to have known that was the beginning of the end as victory for them would have at least given the US a moment of pause as there was now nothing between Hawaii and the Japanese navy, instead their defeat and loss of much of their carrier fleet marked the end of those 6 months and they'd be backpedaling all the way to the mainland. I can only imagine how things would have played out had he not been killed so early in the war, would his more realistic expectations have convinced the leadership to surrender before we even needed to start dropping nukes? Would he have approved of the pointless suicidal tactics? Could he have been helpful in Japan's postwar reconstruction? It would have been interesting to see how history would have remembered him if his involvement continued to the end of the war and beyond.

[@xarlev]

My favorite dev sponsoring my favorite youtube series!!

[@artistformerlyknownasal-ma6376]

Aw yeah, Paradox interactive

[@theprussian7483]

The one time someone actually uses the German Imperial Flag, it's used for the wrong time period.

[@jesternario]

I am disappointed that the British flag did not have dragons on it :p

[@rjfaber1991]

United Targaryen Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland? :p

[@Sammy_Chouchou]

Oh shit, civil war.

[@jesternario]

It was mostly a joke. They mentioned that they kept drawing the british flag differently each time and that eventually they'd just be drawing dragons on it.

[@ryancronwell6368]

Man, I wish the more recent videos were up to this standard

[@hellTOtheYER]

Same, the older videos are absolutely brilliant compared to the newer stuff. Standards have definitely dropped.

[@cyantile5490]

Why cant actual history subjects be this engaging? I mean... You make even money and economy sound interesting!

[@bobularbob]

Chinese flag back in the WW2 days, was not the People's Republic of China's flag as you've shown.

[@erikthomsen4768]

And besides that. He used the German World War 1 era flag. Estate of the flag we all know. Or the historic flag of the era.

[@scuthan]

A history that has been consciously forgotten: The war between china and japan broke out in 1937. the UK imposed sanction on China and the US was supplying the majority of resources that kept Japanese war machine running. It was USSR and Nazi Germany that helped china tide through the difficult period before the change in pacific battlefield.

[@retro2103]

If you're still talking about China during the second world war at 7:05 Shouldn't their flag be the one of the republic of China, NOT the 'red' people's republic of China flag that they use today. So basically... The old flag that's now Taiwan's?

[@EskeAndersen]

One of your most interesting videos yet. More in-depth stuff like this, please.

[@DreamPen]

And right when I thought we were back to the 1-Extra History-per-week schedule, you surprise us with another extra Extra History mini-series! :-D Yipee!!!

[@hyo3884]

Yamamoto was a smart man.

[@AHo-ne2df]

You got the wrong flag for China! It was the Republic of China (modern day Taiwan) who was in charge, not the people's republic of China, so you should have used the Republic of China's flag, not the PRC's.

[@mickles1975]

Glitterhoof was Hitler's Chancellor.

[@keaton2312]

lol ck2 reference

[@Ikelae]

Brilliant! So often the economics at work behind the war are forgotten. I am excited for the next installment.

[@Rose_Harmonic]

+Garet Rooks yep. a cool space one in one month and a cool hoi iteration a month later? utterly fantastic.

[@michaeldezell171]

Germany: ha ha, I'm better than you, France and Britain. The British Empire: