Beryl and Tantal are not short versions of the elements' names, they are the polish name for the elements.
@PSS_VENOM6663 жыл бұрын
I always thought that Tantal is from mythology, son of Zeus, good to know :)
@jic13 жыл бұрын
@@PSS_VENOM666 It is, that's who they named the element after.
@erikawhelan46733 жыл бұрын
And Beryl and Tantal are clippings of the Latin words Beryllium and Tantalum.
@HrothgarHeavenlight3 жыл бұрын
@@erikawhelan4673 in Polish Berylium is Beryl and Tantalum is Tantal. Like Iron is Żelazo.
@doommaker40003 жыл бұрын
@@HrothgarHeavenlight And Oxygen is Tlen :)
@lordDenis163 жыл бұрын
For the non polish people: C = Ciągły (auto) P = Powtarzalny (semi) S = Serie (burst)
@milosnik7473 жыл бұрын
or P as "pojedynczy" (single), but im not sure
@Bialy_13 жыл бұрын
C = Ciągły ( continuous ) P = Pojedynczy ( single ) S = Seria ( series / burst )
@lordDenis163 жыл бұрын
Ups, mój błąd. Thanks for the correction!
@KlaustheViking3 жыл бұрын
Tak
@stefanmolnapor9103 жыл бұрын
What is "Z" for? Thank you for translation
@jakubfabisiak98103 жыл бұрын
"Poland was unhappy with the license cost and export restrictions for the technology transfer" There's an old joke about the RWPG (mutual economic aid committee): "we give them coal, and in return, they take meat from us"
@weeges233 жыл бұрын
A soviet union sent a gift to Poland 1M pair of shoes.... . To repair them
@jakubfabisiak98103 жыл бұрын
@@weeges23 no, no, no, you got it all wrong. They send 1M shoes, and after repairs, get 1M pairs of shoes back.
@metamorphicorder3 жыл бұрын
This is probably the best comment section ive seen in a while.
@KoRbA23103 жыл бұрын
They said, when Soviets came they stole everything that wasn't bolted to the ground. Later they came back with tools and took the rest.
@kavky3 жыл бұрын
Similar joke with Sov-Roms
@HalIOfFamer3 жыл бұрын
Tantal and Beryl is how you pronounce the elements in polish so its not a shortcut.
@davidca963 жыл бұрын
I remember when Tantal's were $400 and everywhere, makes me mad at myself that I didnt get one at that time.
@stefanmolnapor9103 жыл бұрын
I'm mad at you for not buying one also😡
@matthaft20483 жыл бұрын
I know those feels ☹️
@coyotearmory3 жыл бұрын
And 300 dollar saigas
@davidca963 жыл бұрын
@@stefanmolnapor910 lel
@konradjurgiewicz35983 жыл бұрын
In Poland you can get this between 600 and 800 dollars. Gonna probably get one as soon as I save up some money. But it's getting more expensive as not so many were manufactured.
@VValkyr3 жыл бұрын
I am still surprised Ian didn't take a look at Beryl through all these years, its history and how it works. Quite a unique spin on AK, especially considering its among the first (if I recall) chambered in 5.56, and successful at that
@jic13 жыл бұрын
It may simply be that, as he was saying about this rifle, he may have had trouble getting his hands on a factory-correct example.
@VValkyr3 жыл бұрын
@Canon Waters Ah, fair enough. That's why I wrote "one of firsts successful ones", because I couldn't call for certain if it was
@pekkamakela25663 жыл бұрын
@Canon Waters or maybe some commercial Valmet variant from Finland.
@lukas13923 жыл бұрын
Well he did Tantal so next step must be Beryl and Grot
@user-03-gsa33 жыл бұрын
How would the AK-101 compare to other 5.56 AKs mentioned in this thread?
@MrGrimsmith3 жыл бұрын
Definitely a well thought out approach to the burst mechanism, having it reset when the trigger does is such a simple choice to make but genius.
@bebop_5573 жыл бұрын
You can identify these rifles by their uncircumcised muzzle brake and fancy wire stock.
@nicolobartolotta3 жыл бұрын
Much appreciated Dugan Ashley
@sicsemperbriannis80953 жыл бұрын
I miss Dugan so much, his content was top tier
@snikrepak3 жыл бұрын
That stock is a giveaway.
@Cblla3 жыл бұрын
LOOK AT THE STOCK ACTION BABY
@jonnycarcano3 жыл бұрын
Stock action!
@josiahricafrente5853 жыл бұрын
Ian: “There has been massive political change in the world.” Me: “Ah, yes. That one time Kazakhstan became the leader, and sole remaining member, of the Soviet Union!”
@muhammadnursyahmi94403 жыл бұрын
Funny how Russia is the 3rd country to exit Soviet Union.
@matzeselloggs23923 жыл бұрын
@@muhammadnursyahmi9440 When you leave your own Party and suddenly Kazakhstan ist the Party Host :D
@d.b.1176 Жыл бұрын
A win’s a win.
@Bro-tr2xq3 жыл бұрын
I had one and sold it for 4000 USD in 2014, the only ak with burst select fire, really well built
@shellz55673 жыл бұрын
Damn,why did you let it go so cheap?
@stefanmolnapor9103 жыл бұрын
@@shellz5567 maybe dealer sample?
@ryzykoman3 жыл бұрын
in Poland u can buy one for a 600 $ now
@sebastianriemer17773 жыл бұрын
Legal or as a kit part like in Czechia? Just asking for a friend. Greetings from Germany.
@vitis653 жыл бұрын
The Romanian AIMS-74 also had 3 round burst capability.
@SK9L9T9R3 жыл бұрын
"11" means Fabryka Broni "Łucznik", Works 11 is an other company (they're using 11 in an oval).
@CssHDmonster3 жыл бұрын
aw shame, was hoping to sneak into radom and steal a tantal
@puszkowniczy3 жыл бұрын
@@CssHDmonster no need to. Currently Tantals are being released from military reserves and you can get one for ~750usd ... in PL of course :)
@G-Mastah-Fash3 жыл бұрын
@@puszkowniczy Do they sell them in those dodgy markets at the border?
@grumpystranger63773 жыл бұрын
To be fair, Works 11 uses the old Radom Metal Works proof mark as their logo (11 in an oval). That's not exactly not confusing.
@hobolecho85073 жыл бұрын
Jako prawdziwi Polacy musimy chwalić się znajomością swojego języka
@plasot3 жыл бұрын
OK watching this one. I was using Tantal in 1999-2000 while serving in Polish Army
@plasot3 жыл бұрын
I believe my Tantal had different stock (need to look at photos, edit - checked and stock is the same) and folded stock was in fact preventing usage. Also locking mechanism was very hard to use as it was quickly jammed with dirt and in some conditions you have been forced to leverage it to unfold stock. Also we had bipod at inventory. Magazines were full steel.
@Calvin_Coolage3 жыл бұрын
This thing served the Polish military a long time then.
@dominicvucic86543 жыл бұрын
@@Calvin_Coolage militaris tend to keep weapons for a while the us still has large numbers of A1 and A2 M16s in stocks even though the A3 and M4 are newer
@KlaustheViking3 жыл бұрын
@@dominicvucic8654 Yep. My reserve unit still used A2s and we are just now getting those replaced with M4s.
@plasot3 жыл бұрын
@@Calvin_Coolage It will nvere stop amusing how many types of tech we had there, some guys were issued with Tantals (like myself), some with AKMSs, some with AKs with wooden stock. From genuinely Polish guns we had Glauberyt (PM-84, replacement of PM-63 RAK, hopefully Ian will cover first one too), grenade launcher PALLAD and there were rumorus that we will soon have Beryls, 5.56 heavily modified variant of Tantal (hoping to see that too, Ian)
@kalash13x3 жыл бұрын
Kalashnikov- "Everything that is Simple is Holy" A Polish Engineer- "Hold my Pentagram"
@AururaTinn79303 жыл бұрын
I spoke to my friend, who's a great expert on AK's and he said that, second trial of this rife was coplited in october 1988. with only 500 Tantals produced in this year, after the trial, military ordered batch of 1000 maybe 1500, to be complited and delivered, where first sample must be delivered in january 1989. Then those fresh new tantals were given to paratroopers and other special forces. In 1990 Radom produced another batch of 2000 or 2500 rifels, but real serial production started in 1991. Also you forgott to mention a Polish Krink, the wz 89 ,,Onyks'' with is a shortened wersion of the Tantal, produced only in batch of 200 rifles.
@eljefeamericano43083 жыл бұрын
Can't wait to see the three-round burst in action! I've used these in their civilian forms, and as semi-auto guns they're certainly controllable. Was very cool to see the proper internals! Thanks, Ian!
@adudefrompoland5793 жыл бұрын
i shot it and the stock is actually really nice for shooting with earmuffs
@thedarkfalafel93233 жыл бұрын
4:02 it’s not shorten, tantalum in Polish is just tantal, same goes with beryllium
@x39aesthetics3 жыл бұрын
It's also pronounced barrel, not buh-reel
@Hunne23033 жыл бұрын
same in german...plain and simple "Tantal"... :p
@GazalAlShaqab3 жыл бұрын
Thanks a LOT Ian! After You showed us the ViS, the Maroszek’s wz. 38, the wz. 63, we are waiting for the wz. 35 (Ur.) and the MSBS (as it was said many times in the comments already). But we all know that the wz. 35 is a RARE bird…
@adammarcinow13993 жыл бұрын
I'm simple Polish guy, I see Ian make a video about Polish gun I click
@thespecialbru3 жыл бұрын
A totally tantalizing design, I must say
@bombsawaylemay7703 жыл бұрын
😆
@mrnobody64473 жыл бұрын
I kind of wish I had bought the one I could of which came with two 35 round mags, but I turned it down a decade ago because 5.45 was harder to find.
@eljefeamericano43083 жыл бұрын
Man, I don't know if I should reward your pun, but... okay. Have a like.
@BennyRegazzoni3 жыл бұрын
CARLOS!!
@revannihilus3413 жыл бұрын
Badda bum tssss
@SteinerArts3 жыл бұрын
Kind of very off-topic, but when my father was in the Polish People's Army in 1981, he was armed with a Soviet PPSh-41 (or PPS). 🙈
@user-kz3rc1hx7e3 жыл бұрын
Unbelievable! What unit he was assigned to?
@SteinerArts3 жыл бұрын
@@user-kz3rc1hx7e I don't recall the exact unit, but he was just with the regular infantry. He'd tell me how in the city of Torun he was on guard duty, there would also be Soviet soldiers stationed, but at a ratio of 5:1 in regards to the Polish People's Army. (5 Soviet soldiers per Polish soldier, let that sink in for a moment Don't know if all this is true haha) Those were the times. 🤠
@SteinerArts3 жыл бұрын
@Random Pickle He said it was very easy to use and felt very heavy on your back when you're out on guard duty for a couple of hours in some of the coldest nights of winter. 😜 By the way, he and the others were only given stick magazines for reliability reasons.
@user-kz3rc1hx7e3 жыл бұрын
@@SteinerArts This is not only because of stability. Loading a drum mag takes a lot more time, because it requires to open front panel and "charge" up the spiral spring before. Soviet forces were facing this problem during half of war until stick mags came up into service. Second problem was interchangeability of drum mags, or to say it more correctly, the lack of it. Drum mags from one PPSh-41 mignt not fit another one.
@SteinerArts3 жыл бұрын
@@user-kz3rc1hx7eDrum mags not fitting rifles universally? What an absolute horrible thought if you come to think of it. No wonder you'd see stuff like the RPKS used instead with their huge magazines like in the Soviet-Afghan War. (I know that the RPKS is not an MP 🙈😉🤠)
@jamesallred4603 жыл бұрын
That gun looks cold war AF. Sweet piece, and another great vid from Ian!!
@kamiskub74093 жыл бұрын
Yay another polish gun at Forgotten Weapons.
@kubajackiewicz23 жыл бұрын
Siema
@WorasLT3 жыл бұрын
@@kubajackiewicz2 Polaks still use siema? seems .... 2010s noobish.
You guys don’t get nearly enough credit for your firearms design. I still think the wz 38 is a really sleek rifle and it’s a shame there aren’t more of them out there
@onelittlenothing77563 жыл бұрын
+25% damage against foreigners when resistance mode is active.
@JanMajeran3 жыл бұрын
There is also short version called “Onyks”
@poloziki99903 жыл бұрын
Buuuut "Works 11" is NOT "Fabryka Broni". They are completly different entities.
@Taistelukalkkuna3 жыл бұрын
Do their products go to 11?
@Tunkkis3 жыл бұрын
@@Taistelukalkkuna Only after the introduction of market economy. The centrally planned economy did not see the need for such awesomeness.
@9mmpeter2553 жыл бұрын
Shut your mouth and cram it full of meat
@Jontownia3 жыл бұрын
Here's a cheat sheet: 1927-1939: Fabryka Broni w Radomiu 1939-1944: Steyr-Daimler-Puch Waffenfabrik in Radom 1948-1951: Zjednoczone Zakłady Wyrobów Metalowych. Zakład Nr 1 w Radomiu (United Ironworks. Factory number 1 in Radom) 1951-1990: Zakłady Metalowe im. gen. "Waltera" w Radomiu (general "Walter" Ironworks in Radom) 1990-2000: Zakłady Metalowe "Łucznik" w Radomiu (Ironworks "Łucznik" ["Archer"] in Radom) 2000: Controlled bankruptcy 2000-present: Fabryka Broni "Łucznik" Radom (Weapons Factory "Łucznik" Radom)
@keithweiss78993 жыл бұрын
I purchased a parts kit many years ago. I used to teach machine shop and I can say the quality of the parts are outstanding! Better than any other AK rifle I have seen. Mine came with the bayonet, but no radioactive sight. Thanks Ian!
@jordanwalsh16913 жыл бұрын
There's something humorous in Poland not wanting to be part of the *Warsaw* pact. It's like France not signing onto the Paris Agreement.
@Jarzyn443 жыл бұрын
Not long ago Turkey withdrawed from Instambul Convection.
@Mephistopheles93 жыл бұрын
Simple hungarian here, I see a video about Polish stuff, I press like.
@larkylark80223 жыл бұрын
Simple Pole here, see Hungarian comment, I press like 🇭🇺👍
@avtaga3 жыл бұрын
@@larkylark8022 Simple Pole here. I see Polish comment liking Hungarian comment liking Polish stuff, I press like. On both comments 😉
@jesusdontlikethatimgaybuts94933 жыл бұрын
🏳️🌈
@bigboi42693 жыл бұрын
T h e c o m m o n w e a l t h l i v e s o n
@bigboi42693 жыл бұрын
@@jesusdontlikethatimgaybuts9493 silence, communist
@makapaka_madafaka_3 жыл бұрын
Few hours worth of military service stories from my Grandpa. *HERE I COOOOOOOME*
@therugburnz3 жыл бұрын
Fascinating. Thanx Ian & anyone that supplied information or artifacts. This is a part of history I had not understood previously. Thanx again.
@emkaes76253 жыл бұрын
This thing seems to be more famous around the world than in Poland.
@Brian-ot5xp3 жыл бұрын
Like all european service weapons (hk 36, g3, lee enfield , c7/c8(nld or other versions) the grass is always greener across the street
@Xivaxblades3 жыл бұрын
@@Brian-ot5xp also shit weapon laws
@arturniedzwiecki20243 жыл бұрын
Couse we cant kurwa have them😭
@MicJej3 жыл бұрын
@@arturniedzwiecki2024 Eh, ya can if ya try. Neutered to semi-auto only, naturally, but they're absolutely feasible to own on a collector's license. Hell, I have a friend who somehow finangled one on a sports license. Of course, actually FINDING one that's for sale is next to impossible, mostly due to any and all available examples being immediately snapped up by western collectors who, generally, find it easier to pay for em than us poors. Also, I've had the pleasure of firing the Tantal, the Beryl, and the Brand Spankin' New™ MSBS-5,56, the latter one back when it was still in its developmental stage. It's fitting how this series of weapons perfectly illustrates Poland's general downward trend over the past few decades. From one of the best AK variants out there, through a meh kind of in-between weapon, to a recycled plastic bottle that creaks when you hold it and occasionally - assuming you haven't looked at it funny in the past few days - cycles the bolt.
@Massakre8492nd3 жыл бұрын
@@MicJej perfectly said
@simonrook57433 жыл бұрын
Fantastic article Ian, thanks. Sometimes the back story is more interesting than the actual weapon!
@andrzejwitowiak13533 жыл бұрын
So this is a polish(ed) AK instead of finnish(ed) one? :D
@dashingdave26653 жыл бұрын
Czech out the VZ 58 too
@rafalemiec86833 жыл бұрын
my teeth hurt from how dad this joke is
@Crimerenegade3 жыл бұрын
One more thing about rifle grenades for wz. 88 Tantal. Contrary to most of the grenades used with rifles worldwide, you don't need to use blank cartridge to to lunch them safely. They are using so called "bullet trap" that will capture the bullet. It is safe to use standard issue FMJ ammo with them. The family consists of: GNPO - HEAP - anti armor and fragmentation, 240 meters range, approx 80-100mm RHA penetration, weight 410 grams NGD - Smoke approx 200 meters range, size of smoke cover is 20 meters wide and 3 meters tall, duration of smoking approx 50 seconds, weight 455 grams NGZ - Incendiary based on ferric oxide approx 200 meters range duration of combustion 30 seconds, weight 456 grams NGOS - Illumination based on sodium nitrate and magnesium powde Range approx 150 meters, intensity approx 50k lumens durration 20 seconds, wieght 466 grams All above types can be used with 5,45x39 and also with 5,56x45. They are in current usage with wz. 96 Beryl and as far as i know new MSBS GROT can also use them
@janmaniawski81633 жыл бұрын
I am a simple Pole, I see a video with polish weapon, I leave like
@9mmpeter2553 жыл бұрын
A simple poll smoker
@janmaniawski81633 жыл бұрын
@@9mmpeter255 Listen here, you lil shiet
@Jesses0013 жыл бұрын
Of all the 3 round burst systems I have seen, this is one of my favorite. It is one of the most simple of the burst counters I have seen. No need for a bunch of gears and whatnot in there. IT does not have that "memory" issue you mentioned. Also the selector being separate from the safety means I can set it for whatever default I want. Furthermore, the burst is in a different direction than full auto, so if I do not like the burst, it is easier to ignore compared to the HK fire group. All in all, I kind of love this rifle.
@zwariowanywiktor87843 жыл бұрын
In Poland we don't name element "Tantalum", just "Tantal". It's not shortened name.
@ФилиппЛыков-д8е3 жыл бұрын
12:33 What AKM has is not a rate reducer but rather a hammer retarder whose purpose is to provide some extra hundredths of second to let the shooter hands' muscles relax so that the rifle position is better reproduced at the consecutive shots. It takes some 100ms for the AK bolt carrier to cycle back and forth. Rate reducer, or hammer retarder as it is called in Russian, increases that time by about 10%, hence reduction of rate of fire was _not_ the initial purpose of the part.
@M.M.83-U3 жыл бұрын
This sound very nice. I like the 3rounds burst concept.
@ulvschmidt71743 жыл бұрын
Thank you for showing the burst mechanism i have always wondered how bursts work
@JoJo-vm8vk3 жыл бұрын
And you have the “French way” - safe/ semi/ burst - 3 rounds burst/ unlimited burst 😋🇫🇷
@brianrhee88963 жыл бұрын
I've been waiting for an episode on the Tantal for over a year. Worth watching every second.
@rstebnicki3 жыл бұрын
Thank you v.much for showing some Polish guns. Regards Rafal.
@july17303 жыл бұрын
One of my favorite countries he features, always thought Poland had some of the best firearm manufacturing in the USSR Edit: prewar manufacturing is very impressive too!
@Tulbia3 жыл бұрын
SRafal
@rstebnicki3 жыл бұрын
@@july1730 You mean Warsaw Pact?
@july17303 жыл бұрын
@@rstebnicki no I meant the Principality of Zeon
@jannegrey5933 жыл бұрын
BTW - IIRC in selector "C" stands for "Ciągły" - continuous fire. Usually we now use slightly different lettering - which makes this gun a bit "odd" feeling. Still - wonderful video and like people point out Works 11 and Fabryka Broni "Łucznik" are different things. Which makes this gun confusing. Still great video as always.
@Acin753 жыл бұрын
Can't wait till you discuss Beryl and even shoot it together with Henry Chan from 9-hole-review? Greetings from Grzegorz Brzeczyszczykiewicz 😉👍
@towarzyszmarcin4743 жыл бұрын
xD
@Acin753 жыл бұрын
@@towarzyszmarcin474 😂😂 tovarishtch
@Massakre8492nd3 жыл бұрын
@@lamcalvin123 we don't use yang as a slur, seems like a mistake on op part
@Acin753 жыл бұрын
@@lamcalvin123 yes! Man, now i see it! Damn that autocorrect... I'll correct it.
@mattheefisher21043 жыл бұрын
Your channel is an excellent source of information not only fire arm specific but fire arms in general. I enjoy your intellect.
@GrafySkater3 жыл бұрын
Finally! Been waiting for a video on this for ages :) this gun always makes me a little proud of being polish :D
@bakerking53513 жыл бұрын
The elemental nomenclature makes so much sense now I always wondered where they got those names
@gongi103 жыл бұрын
Regards from Poland, Ian! :)
@skorpionthunder3 жыл бұрын
i love when guns have those stocks, I know those are pretty bad for recoil control but they just look so cool
@bombsawaylemay7703 жыл бұрын
Poland sure knows how to make an AK
@alexandrastanaev43993 жыл бұрын
Too bad, Poland hadn't had rifles like AEK-971 or AK-107. These are very effective weapons.
@perfectlynormalhuman54733 жыл бұрын
@@alexandrastanaev4399 yea, but the AEK-971(and 972 and 973) are actually quite a chore to produce and maintain. Theres a new version of it called the A-545, but its only in 5.45x39. Also, there is an export civilian/sporting variant of the AK-107 called the SR-1, of which a couple came into poland, but they are really expensive.
@BEZIMMIENY963 жыл бұрын
@@alexandrastanaev4399 So effective nobody uses them.
@alexandrastanaev43993 жыл бұрын
@@perfectlynormalhuman5473 yeah, I know it, but I’d love AEK and AK-107 to have variations with barrels of different lengths like G36 or SIG MCX at least, for example, AK-107 with ... 9 or 11 inch long barrel or 12 inch long barrel with ability to attach grenade launchers like GP-30 or GP-34 like G36C and G36K can.
@alexandrastanaev43993 жыл бұрын
@@BEZIMMIENY96 I just loved Battlefield Bad Company where AEK-971 was a Russian standard assault rifle. Awesome game!
@TheNextGreatApe3 жыл бұрын
One of these was my first AK kit build, way back when the kits were more complete, plentiful and cheap. Great gun.
@kamilgruszecki67183 жыл бұрын
As a Polish guy thanks for the video. As always very informative.
@USSEnterpriseA17013 жыл бұрын
The article on the Tantal is actually how I found Forgotten Weapons in the first place. I was looking for info on my then newly acquired semi-auto parts kit Tantal, which is actually made from one of the 1990 2nd troop trials rifles and has a slotted head pin instead of the easy lever for removing the handguard.
@konradjurgiewicz35983 жыл бұрын
Didn't even know this has such cool burst system.
@glennschunemann48003 жыл бұрын
Very interesting as always. I'm impressed that you only mixed up 5.45 and 5.56 once (towards the end) ;)
@jjforcebreaker3 жыл бұрын
Interesting history! Looking forward to seeing it perform on the range.
@godzilla14633 жыл бұрын
Me: Time to go to work *Forgotten Weapons posts an AK video* Me: What's work?
@joaoie3 жыл бұрын
I was just looking at the Tantal this week and trying to discern the differences and I was never satisfied. This makes me feel nice and everything is clear. Wonderful.
@josephcalvosa8272 Жыл бұрын
Thanks . I really appreciate access to your engineering insight and I know I have learned so much from you in your videos. You graciously share knowledge I otherwise wouldn't encounter.
@Sephiroth3913 жыл бұрын
As always Ian delivers quality video, i only wish he'd switch pronounciation of "wz" to "Vzoor"
@tonyflamingo81133 жыл бұрын
That’s what he said in the beginning of the video.
@harriskhan64383 жыл бұрын
He did at around 2:40
@shannonelliott51043 жыл бұрын
Блят
@WW-qp5yd3 жыл бұрын
I know nothing about guns but stumbled across your channel …yet I always find your videos fascinating re: your incredible breadth of knowledge and contextualisation.
@samobispo15273 жыл бұрын
Ian, I can’t see the rifle with your black shirt as a background.
@9mmpeter2553 жыл бұрын
Shut your damn meat hole
@nunyabeeswax25753 жыл бұрын
@@9mmpeter255 lead by example then.
@Mehow593 жыл бұрын
I really enjoyed this video, I have one of the parts kit built ones and I love it! I had my fitted with a beryl stock and furniture along with the top optics rail and topped with an Eotech. It was really cool to see this in it’s original configuration. Mine differs in that both the selector switches operate the safety (it’s semi-only) and it doesn’t have the lock for the bolt carrier spring to hold the dust cover in place (most likely from a standard ak74). Can’t wait to see the real one in action!
@olekzajac59483 жыл бұрын
4:05 Not really shorted, "tantal" is just Polish for tantalum.
@janhermanvanman95813 жыл бұрын
Nobody asked, nobody cares.
@rimsjobs77883 жыл бұрын
@@janhermanvanman9581 everyone cares, I guess nobody cares about you so you make comments like that.
@erikawhelan46733 жыл бұрын
The Polish word is a clipping of Tantalum.
@lillexus55893 жыл бұрын
@@janhermanvanman9581 jij bent af Herman
@jannerantanen51213 жыл бұрын
@@janhermanvanman9581 you're toxic for no reason. did anyone ask for your opinion? people on this channel generally appreciate random tidbits or corrections regarding something in the video. your opinion on the other hand? not so much
@simonbannow39053 жыл бұрын
Ian must have gotten the maximum amount of "Kung-Flu" shots to be able to travel Europe like a bossman!
@travishabursky43623 жыл бұрын
Ah yes, the internationally famous kurwa-cannon. I really want one.
@MareImbrum3 жыл бұрын
It is worth mentioning, that there was a shortened, lightweight version of Tantal know as wz. 1989 Onyx. It was designed to be used by airborne infantry, police and military special operations units and vehicle crews but in the end, it never entered service in Land or Special Forces and only 200 of them were build basically as a pre-production batch. Out of this 200 at least some of them were used for a short time in the 90s by Warsaw Police anti-terrorist units. Also, that underbarrel grenade launcher he mentioned? It's a wz. 1974 Pallad, intended to replace the kbkg wz. 1960 grenade-launcher rifle and work with AKM at first but latter it was used with Tantal and it is still used with Beryl rifles. There is even a stand-alone version, wz. 83 Pallad-D that is just a barrel with a simple stock and AK type pistol grip. Speaking about Beryl, is that a tease that I heard at the end and you are finally planning to do a review of it? Now, I also hope, since you have made a video about PM-63, that you will take a look at its replacement: PM-84 Glauberyt.
@charles_wipman3 жыл бұрын
Nice, i always thought that this were AK74 clones; didn't knew they were so different.
@PSS_VENOM6663 жыл бұрын
I think I saw this rifles in military base in Poland like almost 10 years ago. The guards carried them, at least the stock was very close to it.
@jurijgagarin42123 жыл бұрын
You might be right, many of security companies (SUFO's) hired by military bases to secure premises use them to the present day
@myh1063 жыл бұрын
Cool to see another video on Polish weapons! Some language nitpicks (sorry): The "ó" wzór is pronounced more like a shorter version of the "oo" in "poor", rather than an "o" in "core" or "bore", "Tantal" is pronounced not too differently from English, it's just that both "a" are like in the word "tap" and "Beryl" has a hard "y", the "e" is pronounced like in "bet", and the stress is on the first syllable.
@arthuresparza26173 жыл бұрын
Hi, one thing that I don't think was mentioned was that the front handguard retention piece originally had a flathead screw and later replaced to a lever for take down. Great rifle though. I think the top handguard is also unique to the Tantal but I could be wrong.
@michaszymanski30663 жыл бұрын
Great, finally a Tantal video :D. Any chance for shooting videos?
@ForgottenWeapons3 жыл бұрын
Yes, tomorrow.
@matthewrydl72093 жыл бұрын
I love my Interarms built Tantal. Sadly not full auto/burst, but it is incredibly well built and pleasant to shoot. A friend of mine has an actual Auto/burst model that is an entirely Polisb built gun, and he is super lucky.
@lelandgaunt99853 жыл бұрын
Got mine from Rguns, after a century disaster.
@JanoWTF3 жыл бұрын
It is kind of touching for me becouse my unit recently replaced Beryl (which is basically the same as Tantal) with the MSBS (you had a chance to shoot an early one at SHOT Show couple years back). Are you planning any videos on wz.89 Onyks, wz.96 Beryl or wz.96 Mini-Beryl?
@Zeraphor Жыл бұрын
I like the in-depth overview of weapons, great job.
@theflyingwelshman53383 жыл бұрын
As someone with Polish blood, I really need to get myself a Tantal.
@Galvars3 жыл бұрын
You can buy one for around 700$
@theflyingwelshman53383 жыл бұрын
@@lefunnyN1 fascist coward spotted.
@theflyingwelshman53383 жыл бұрын
@@lefunnyN1 Wow. You come up with that yourself? Go bother someone else, edgy teen.
@OGPatriot033 жыл бұрын
@@theflyingwelshman5338 Just as long as we understand that the current political elite along with the entire leftist sphere of politics are actual fascists who simply call their opponents such as a form of basic misdirection then we're good. Antifa usually means fascist nowadays, but real anti-fascists still exist, they just wear red hats.
@theflyingwelshman53383 жыл бұрын
@@OGPatriot03 you got that backwards, pal. Fascism is a right wing ideology. The Red Hats are the new Brownshirts. The Proud Boys and Oathkeepers are traitors and insurrectionists. And in response to your profile pic: I tread where I want.
@ilovedetails3 жыл бұрын
Beryl and Tantal are some of unicorns I would love to own.
@thedarkfalafel93233 жыл бұрын
0:55 please make a video about Lantan, pretty fascinating and exceptionally ugly design
@Celebmacil3 жыл бұрын
The Karabin Lantan, when an AK-47 and an M41A Pulse Rifle love each other VERY much...
@davidhemsath42623 жыл бұрын
The stock length info reminds me of Ian and Karl explaining why M2 Ball ammo was downgraded (less efficient bullet) so the U.S. military didn’t have to buy more land in order to extend KD rifle ranges length.
@luutzu3 жыл бұрын
Radom makes some sexy guns. New polish rifle Grot also looks great kinda like ACR.
@paranoiia83 жыл бұрын
Especially bulpup version, I really dont know why people hate its look. I mean its not super cool, art like design but it just look nice and futuristic.
@kriest55723 жыл бұрын
Well yeah it's similar to ACT but it's definitely cheaper
@croissant85403 жыл бұрын
Well, Grot actually sucks ass pretty badly
@lillexus55893 жыл бұрын
I love my Polish MSBS
@paranoiia83 жыл бұрын
@@croissant8540 you talking from experience of course?
@TheRandomPolishGuy3 жыл бұрын
Slap a triangle folder on it and call it a day. I wonder now if the selector would interfere with the installation of a side rail.
@MeshFrequency3 жыл бұрын
This gun is an embodiment of a rising Polish independence at the time of its creation. Great video as always.
@mpk59593 жыл бұрын
My sister in law farther was the MD of the company in Radom, Poland I did see them manufacturer the AK Hunter.
@eksplosiveknight3 жыл бұрын
beryl is not s short for beryllium, poles simply don't have the "llium" as part of the names of the elements in polish for example Fosfor instead of Phosphorous and Potas instead of Potassium
@SteamCrane3 жыл бұрын
"Somewhat long" == "Barely long enough".
@dancomando3 жыл бұрын
Greetings from Poland
@stefanmolnapor9103 жыл бұрын
Hello from America!
@tk18503 жыл бұрын
i saw one in museum in Vinkovci with rpg optical sight mounted. it was in exponat of Croatian Homeland war.
@idontknow44273 жыл бұрын
I love that gun body
@TheGearhead2223 жыл бұрын
Another great video Ian!:) I have some Polish AK-74 parts and they are beautifully made-John in Texas
@ExUSSailor3 жыл бұрын
That look like a REALLY uncomfortable shoulder stock.
@jurijgagarin42123 жыл бұрын
actually, it's pretty comfortable, at least with comparsion to, for example, folded AKM (AKMS) stock. I used both tantal and akms during my service and I preferred tantal's stock (same as rifle)
@fonzybrookestone7273 жыл бұрын
the contrast between Ians shirt, Ak, and white background is all jacked up. cool stuff though!!
@jamesramirez853 жыл бұрын
I already saw the review on Vladsparastoria channel but i NEED to watch Ian Little Fun fact, this guns are cheaper in full auto in poland than in semiauto
@janwacawik74323 жыл бұрын
Almost all Polish surplus rifles are cheaper in full auto than in semi, since they take money to convert to semi-auto only and there are very few entities that can own full auto guns.
@Some1Else11183 жыл бұрын
On Civilian built rifles, the lower handguard is interchangeable with standard AKM/74 handguards. Not sure if the original military model is different.
@Tanne_przypal3 жыл бұрын
finally something from my home country
@bwhog3 жыл бұрын
Nice to see that burst mechanism. I've always been curious how that operated but never dug into it. The "memory" was an issue only on the early era M16s that had that, I thought. I seem to recall that this was deemed a problem by the military and that it was corrected relatively quickly and is no longer a characteristic of the M4/M16 system.
@timengineman2nd7143 жыл бұрын
Perhaps the stock was shortened also to allow for easy use with winter coats, and/or body armor....
@ForgottenWeapons3 жыл бұрын
No, it wasn't. The first pattern had a longer stock, and during trials they realized it wouldn't fit rifle racks and changed it for that reason.
@c.j.10893 жыл бұрын
That gun has some extremely aggressive spot welding for those guide rails.
@TheArklyte3 жыл бұрын
Poles could have been crazy good allies... IF ONLY they were treated as actual _allies._ Although this rifle might not have existed otherwise.
@bogdanbogdanoff51643 жыл бұрын
Same story repeats today with another alliance
@Stevarooni3 жыл бұрын
Poles are smart not to trust alliances any farther than necessary. They've gotten thrown over so many busses they could be a road. Fortunately they're doing everything they can not to get run over. 👍
@yikes30133 жыл бұрын
@@Stevarooni oh we are getting ran over, just by our own government this time
@dwi29213 жыл бұрын
@@yikes3013 Ah yes "Law and Justice". They are going to be in power for the foreseeable future though. Poland is pretty conservative.
@OGPatriot033 жыл бұрын
@@dwi2921 We have to support the few conservative gems we have left in Europe, tyranny is overtaking everywhere else..