X-Maxx mod 1.5 Unbreakable gears Install & Slipper Eliminator, Huge X-Maxx motor upgrade..

Today we install some mod 1.5 gears with slipper eliminator in my xmaxx, motor used is the Leopard Hobby 58113 1050 kv.. its a beast!!!!!
Gear ratio is 25t Pinion and 35t Spur..
After running for 20 mins constant the motor was only warm to the touch, Ambient air temp was around 17'c..
I will monitor the motors temp and if i need to i will add fans..

[@torpedoLaw]

WFO gear company is pathetic. Small company in Washington state. They don’t respond to emails period. No phone number to call them. Spend your money somewhere else. Last 14 months completely out of stock for their gears. Their steel manufacturer shut them down.

[@dazfx]

Hmmm, I wouldn't be happy with half the pinion touching the spur gear. Personally, I would be inclined to mod the motor mount or find another alternative. I'm guessing you have had no problems though as those gears are knarly as funk, the motor is a beast!

[@SpeedSyko]

Anyone? Installing maxx 5 esc low? Not high to get smashed! I’m doing mine low but no tutorials that I can find. I guess I’ll be making one!

[@RoadsideRC]

So....this is a couple years old. Are you still happy with this setup? I just did a 980KV upgrade on my X-Maxx with a Max 6 ESC. Love the power so far, but I am having some kind of power delivery issues. Either batteries or ESC keeping up with that KV. Seems to be getting hot also. Just curious your history with this setup.

[@jaypearce6199]

I went over to a belt drove system about a year ago never looked back dude

[@RoadsideRC]

@@jaypearce6199 Thanks for that feedback!

[@justincase948]

Great build my friend ,what motor is tha

[@jaypearce6199]

Its the Leopard Hobby, 58113

[@mhfwz.batheeb]

My friend, can you give me the link to this evil engine mount, please😘😘

[@javierduran2328]

Good Evening, Is possible put a brushless of 7000 kv to 1 rc losi super rock rey? In aliexpress i found brushless of 10, 7, 12000 kv. Regards.

[@1998gst4611]

Dam really? If that was me I wouldn't feel too comfortable having the pinion and spur gear mesh unevenly like that. Maybe you need to turn that pinion around to mesh with the spur gear flushed evenly.

[@raymondhenson5648]

Now that's a upgrade!! Im about upgrade my xmaxx too now..... Thanx 4 sharing

[@lilnash7]

Me too just ordered that 1050 motor damn thing looks huge

[@TheGoose81]

How does your gearing compare to the standard Traxxas options of 18/54 and 18/46? I cannot work it out based on the mod 1.5 gearing

[@jaypearce6199]

probably close to the equivalent of 18/46, maybe more top speed

[@samintrepid]

Wow Jay, I resale my x-maxx 8s last year because I scrap the mod 1 after 2 run with the leopard 1050kv 58113. At this time the 1.5 was out of stock if I can wait I will be ok. I will subbed to your channel if you can do the same I will be happy :)

[@jaypearce6199]

Thanks buddy, ive subbed 😁

[@samintrepid]

@@jaypearce6199 Thank you Jay it mean a lot for me, I have activate the bell on your channel for comment on every video you upload :)

[@Make-Asylums-Great-Again]

samintrepid 😆, you have done so much. One day I too will tell others of the time I clicked the bell, it will be monumental!

[@romelreyna2457]

Awesome videos Jay!! How has the the install held up for you? Are you still running the same gearing? I'm doing a similar install, but using the Dynamite Fuze DYNS1665 motor (same as the castle 2028) with the Max5 Any advise is greatly appreciated.

[@kimdra9321]

Ey yo bro i want to See the Test run!!!

[@christianruiz8962]

What esc are you running on that the xmaxx?

[@jaypearce6199]

Hobbywing MAX5

[@christianruiz8962]

Ok. Thanks.

[@yamabushisama]

when my gears break I know whats going in lol love it bro

[@eacalways]

I have the same motor,and just notice your motor wires are short,did u cut them short? Mine has long wires,wasn’t sure if it’ll affect anything if I were to to cut it shorter.

[@jaypearce6199]

I had to change the bullet connectors to fit the max5 as they where to big! I trimmed the wires at the same time.

[@detroitrcwurks998]

You have to flip the pinion around the other way. No sense in having a wide pinion if your not gonna use the whole width of the teeth

[@jaypearce6199]

Thanks for the comment, I no longer use this drive system

[@ELValenin]

Can you ask that guy if he wants to do arrma diffs? :p

[@MoBay876rc]

Those gears are massive

[@nitetrain7136]

Hey Jay Awesome upgrades. Can you or anyone help with some questions I have . Man are them gears Monsters. I’m still learning about these Xmaxx’s and upgrades. I’m just now finding out that my tiny piss ant stock pinion gear set screw isn’t even touching the motor shaft, so nothing holds the gear on anymore. I just recently launched my Maxx off a skate park ramp probably a good 10 ft plus and it crashed nose first and that’s when I heard things slipping and not engaging. I also busted my steering bell crank. I’m guessing these Monster gears are only for these big powerful upgraded motors like the Castle and Leopards? I would like to get rid of my Xmaxx and buy a new one to start over with and put some bad ass upgraded power parts in it. Do you recommend putting dual cooling fans on the stock escs or are they for aftermarket larger escs? And the same question for dual motor fans? What are the brand of them huge pinion and spur gears? How much would a person be looking at to run that kind of motor, Esc, and gears set up? Or what Pinion/spur gear set up would you recommend for a stock motor? Thanks

[@jaypearce6199]

Hey dude, the stock set up in the xmaxx is pretty weak all around to be honest, my first upgrade was a traxxas 18tooth hardened pinon gear and one of the GPM 50 tooth hardened spur gears, i found that gearing and combo was fantastic and they took alot of abuse, there is a guy here in the U.K who sell belt drive systems and larger gear systems to work with stock motor set ups, the Facebook page is called 'WHEEL HOBBIES X MAXX performance parts' give the guy a message hes real nice to deal with, i got my latest belt drive system from 'Allday' rc but have already had issues so i wouldnt bother. As for coolig fans the mote you can use the better! However the stock esc is known to be junk so i would look at hobbywing max6 as a replacement, or if you plan to upgrade the motor later go straight for the max 5..

[@robertsoltesz2211]

Hi, am I right seeing you have a Hobbywing ESC in your truck?

[@FataL-Gr]

Hi there...I know im late to the party but I would like to ask, if u remember of course, what was the top speed with 25/35? Im asking cause I purchased max6 and waiting also for the motor to arrive (hobbywing 1100kv) tia

[@jaypearce6199]

Hey man! jeez was while ago now haha, From what I recall having not done a speed test I would say a good 60-70mph would be achievable easy, keeping the front down and tyres intact maybe a different story lol.

[@FataL-Gr]

@@jaypearce6199 hahaha ok thanx for the info buddy!

[@MrPeter0730]

What is the name of that motor called?

[@jaypearce6199]

Leopard Hobby 58113

[@MRBRUSHLESS]

Awesome video very nice upgrade great job thumbs up 👍🏿

[@jaypearce6199]

Thanks bro 😎

[@STEVOD313]

Dang brotha those r some serious gears! Awesome!👍👍👊👊📹📹💪💪💪

[@sila.slov_]

Is this leopard motor better than previous xmaxx 8s motor? Is xmaxx with this leopard faster or stronger?

[@jaypearce6199]

100% better than the stock motor! Faster for sure, stronger not really as its still the same truck, in motor terms its alot stronger..

[@RCRoads]

Nice setup. The gears barely fit in.

[@ushad]

What batteries do you use?

[@jaypearce6199]

use to use zippy but this kills packs lol

[@alexceja4050]

Hi You did not put back the the gear cover, is because didn't fit or it fits ???

[@jaypearce6199]

Yeah no way thats fitting lol

[@alexceja4050]

Ok thanks I am new at this hobby .I I just bought a Xmaxx 8s wanting to get bigger gears and motor , but be able to put back the gear cover .

[@alexceja4050]

Thanks for your help goodnight.

[@jaypearce6199]

@@alexceja4050 welcome bro, hit me up anytime, always happy to help

[@Make-Asylums-Great-Again]

Nathan no longer sells them, B&M guys now sell them.

[@jaypearce6199]

I just recieved the new mount from Bryan 😁

[@ang3lcru5h3r]

I know its been a while since you posted but where did you get the gears

[@davidbowman9187]

What brand are the gears? And where did you get them?

[@jaypearce6199]

A guy called Nathan Cation on the Mad Max owners fb group dude

[@GAPreviewsAtoZ]

What size pinion gear are you running

[@alfredocanto9901]

Great video bro, I like how those gears look, way bigger and stronger. Also by any chance did you know the part number of the slipper cluth eliminator, that motor is massive, and what pinion and spur gear would you recommend me to run? I'm a basher, and will definitely be getting those 1.5 gear mods, I currently purchase a xmaxx green and little by little I'm doing upgrades as I break it but I wanna be ready when I break the pinion and spur. Thank you.

[@alfredocanto9901]

Also can that motor run 8s batteries? And what esc is that ?

[@jaypearce6199]

@@alfredocanto9901 hiya buddy, the slipper eliminator is simply made up of a standard shaft, everything stripped off apart from the bearings and flat spots ground on the end for the grub screws to grab. This motor will run upto 12s but I find 6s to be the sweet sport as its so powerful, also the ESC is a hobbywing max5. I've now gone over to a belt drive system and I much prefer it to the gears.

[@LuisLPRCs]

Wow! Insane! I Love it! 👍👍👍👍👍👍👍

[@jaypearce6199]

Thanks dude 😎😎

[@12savagess]

What is this the pinion is not exactly...no good work

[@jaypearce6199]

I no longer run gears i am on a belt drive system, since i made this video i did remove some washers from the slipper eliminator so it made the gears level

[@chrispace6828]

what is your personal experience with the xt90s unti spark connectors ?

[@jaypearce6199]

Fantastic dude, never have any arking whatsoever

[@srcparadise3315]

i don't have an X Maxx yet...why do you prefer the velcro straps over the stock battery trays?

[@Blakrex]

What's the point of the upgrade when you're getting about the same amount of tooth engagement as the mod 1 gears? They're slightly more bulky but you're loosing out on quite a bit of durability when you can't get a flush gear meshing. Am I missing something?

[@jaypearce6199]

They are just alot tougher really, anyway I scrapped the gears and went belt drive, its never run better..

[@Blakrex]

@@jaypearce6199 Gotcha. Hey I was curious, who makes that engine mount you're using? I was planning on a swap to either a Castle 2028 or the 58113 Leopard 1050KV motor. I was just having a difficult time finding motor mounts for the Leopard.

[@jaypearce6199]

@@Blakrex this one was mad max USA but I don't think you can get them anymore, I now use B & M racings version, its much better in all honesty!

[@ramairetransam]

how do you keep your front and rear diffs alive with that much power. and does the max 5 and stock x maxx motor need to be recalibrated like that after taking it apart. i did mine yesterday and didnt need to calibrate it ?

[@jaypearce6199]

ramairetransam Hey dude, just lucky i guess, not had any diff issues so far, i will replace with the hardened versions once they go.. maybe its just this motor that does it weird, i always re calibrate to be sure anyway as its super quick.

[@thomasgomes5639]

You put the pinion on backwards.

[@cernst29]

Awesome video, how do you like the leopard motor?

[@A_Man_In_His_Van]

Jeez that motor is the size of a red bull can.

[@gumbywwf83]

I reckon that large spur gear needs some weight reduction holes. Alot of mass rotating when your trying to brake..

[@jaypearce6199]

Surprisingly dude it makes no difference to the braking efficiency lol..

[@deenice48]

Good morning I just seen your video can you tell me when you put the motor back in the 8S X Maxx do you still use The pin that you use with the original stock motor

[@jaypearce6199]

I never used their pin system as the mesh is incorrect dude

[@shauncollins4682]

Nice gears, could you not get the spur and pinion to overlap each other 100%? It looks like you have quite a bit of each gear not doing anything, if that makes sense?

[@juanmarichal263]

Nothing is unbreakable.

[@juanmarichal263]

Misaligned gears, future ripped gears. ¿Can you put the links of the parts you use?

[@dnnyed1229]

Hi can i ask where you got this motor mount from, I tried both kershaw and also nova racing rc but both business close :(

[@ksrnate]

I want to know also! I've already got a 1/5 motor on the way :(

[@glennwelch5122]

Try B&M rc racing in the US. They make the mod 1.5 gears, motor mounts battery tie downs and esc relocation plates and much more.

[@tedwlkr8]

B&M RC racing. They only have a Facebook page right now but they are up and comers. I've got 3 Xmaxx's with their mod 1.5 gears. $80 gets you the pinion and spur with cush eliminating shaft. They just made a shitload of motor mounts too. Highest height adjustments you can get for your top speed pinion.

[@shanecarpenter4095]

Them gears aint lined up AT ALL

[@AndyTSLMachinist]

Hi, can you tell me how or where to get those two gear, I did all google search, but can’t find anything like that, thank you!

[@jpdollasignakajpscorsese1026]

Im gonna try on stock motor 1st just 2 see if I can tell difference 1st 🤷🏿‍♂️

[@jeramiet154]

I'm running the leopard hobby 56110 950kv on the same gearing and it eats tires. Proline badlands MX43's are next on my list lol

[@nicethelyrical1529]

Where can we get the gears?

[@Mandemclipper]

How do you get the mesh right

[@jaypearce6199]

Stick some paper in between the gears, push together and do up 😎

[@Mandemclipper]

@@jaypearce6199 thanks for the reply mate when you say do up do you mean the bolts on the chassis for the mount?

[@davidpresutti3014]

Any update on the motor and gear combo. I was thinking about switching everything on my Max but not a lot of videos on people saying they love it when there done

[@jaypearce6199]

Heya buddy, ive had a few people ask now, i promise to do a video this weekend with an update of how i found the gears etc.. i now run a belt drive system so will share my thoughts on that too, make sure you hit the bell button to get the notification 😎

[@davidpresutti3014]

That would be perfect. Thanks for the reply. And I hit the bell so I will not miss it

[@BEASTMODERC]

What motor mount is that

[@randytaylor3004]

I was looking forward to ordering these in mod 1.5 gears but now I'm not sure. Almost seems pointless, by the looks of it the tooth alignment was almost off half the gear!? At that rate why not go mod 1? Still better than the traxxas 46 tooth that I have exploded 4 of so far. I have a HR 46 tooth hardened spur at the moment, see how long that lasts!

[@jaypearce6199]

Its the camera angle mostly but they now fit directly parallel to each other, no issues whatsoever and never have to worry about issues again.. its working great so far.. ill take a pic and send you the alignment

[@randytaylor3004]

I was hoping it was just a bad camera angle, I would absolutely like to see a better pic of that set installed. I'm tired of throwing money away on traxxas gears as I've shattered 4 traxxas 46 tooth spurs. I currently run a basically stock 8s X on 18/46 and I'm hoping the HR hardened 18/46 gears hold up better than the traxxas gears. I found the FB forum you mentioned and joined, thank you for the info!!

[@jaypearce6199]

@@randytaylor3004 to be honest i ran a mod 1 set up on this motor for a while, consisted of a 30t pinion and a 50t GDS spur gear and it took everything i threw at it, i found thay by far the gds spurs are the toughest and pretty cheap

[@ksrnate]

GDS gears all the way if your running stock stuff! Spurs about £20 pinions about 10 off eBay worth every penny.

[@onemansvideos2134]

Love the sound of it

[@kevintejeda2772]

Where did you get them gears?.

[@jamesrobinson4950]

How would 30/33 gearing work out with this motor and mmx 8s esc? Help😬😁

[@carlosmanuel1737]

regards!!!! I would like to have direct contact with you to see if you can help me with an idea or if you have a sales kit to solve this problem so that the pine nuts do not hurt me so much please, thank you very much !!!

[@zachowns1023]

Will this work with the stock 8s motor?

[@jaypearce6199]

Not this set up im afraid, i think the stock motor uses a 6mm shaft and this is 8mm, also the stock motor mount doesnt allow the movement for up and down adjustment which you'll need..

[@zachowns1023]

Jay Pearce okay thanks

[@onemansvideos2134]

@@zachowns1023 you can do a 15/30 in mod 1.5 with the stock motor

[@onemansvideos2134]

@@zachowns1023 just gotta ditch the pins and set your mesh manually

[@zachowns1023]

cmcclellan80 * okay thank you I’ll try it

[@ricky-godeepgowide-3206]

Sorry!! What is the gear ratio?

[@davidcrenshaw625]

Address or link to order new gears

[@nitetrain7136]

Hey Jay Pearce. Where do you get them belt drive systems? I just recently came across one on Ebay, but not sure how that brand holds up. I can’t remember the name of the company. It looks really neat. So where to the belts run then? In place of pinion and spur? I see your comment says it’s 10 times better. That’s sweet

[@hatecrew377]

What brand this pinion n spur

[@MegaGott123]

Do You have a lot of wear with this Motor?

[@jaypearce6199]

none dude

[@jacksonvillejetriders6529]

Where did you get the gears and shaft from?

[@jaypearce6199]

Some guy called Nathan Cation on an xmaxx fb group, your best bet it to look up B & M racing or Wheel Hobbies on fb depending if your US or UK based.

[@rcranch3838]

Hey can you please tell me if that would fit on a stock xmaxx motor?

[@jaypearce6199]

Hey man, no these have a 8mm mounting hole, im think to stock motor shaft is like 6mm or something

[@josephmoody8431]

@@jaypearce6199 stock motor shaft is 5mm

[@lilnash7]

@@josephmoody8431 yupp lol

[@A_Man_In_His_Van]

Electric has much more torque than the "petrol" engine. The electric has 100% torque from a standstill, the gas engine not only has far less torque but the centrifugal clutch softens the shock loads so as to protects gears, driveshafts, and diffs.

[@ClarkesMadRcs]

But they dont break in the first place (that much)

[@kimdra9321]

WoooooW wo kann Mann die motorritzel und hauptzahrrad die ganze Halterung von der hauptzahrrad kaufen!?!?!

[@williewhite6444]

Where did you purchase those gears

[@jaypearce6199]

Some guy called Nathan Cation on a FB group, search for a company called Wheel Hobbies, they have some of the best quality available at the moment..

[@suachualaptop-macbookuytin9305]

i like your video

[@crappydriveratbgc9254]

whats the web site you got the gears from? and how many teeth on each? Thanks

[@jaypearce6199]

Hiya, got them from some guy on fb years ago these are long gone now. If you good gears and belt drives go to B&M racing www.awesomercrepairs.com/ Hope that helps

[@jaypearce6199]

From what I can remember this was 35t apur and 30t pinion

[@crappydriveratbgc9254]

Jay Pearce ,Thanks 😁

[@eddiecastro5088]

Probably why we haven't seen any more videos of the xmaxx.. first the pinion Shank needs to be milled down second it's misaligned and 3rd your mesh from what I can hear is all wrong and you probably strip those gears already but you don't need me to tell you that

[@jaypearce6199]

Um no lol, not sure where you got all that from, i have been to busy and ive been using my cralwer more at the moment, i have now installed spektrum gear in my xmaxx and its better than ever.. the mesh and alignment has been adjusted since this video

[@gr4vity951]

Works on stock motor?

[@jaypearce6199]

afraid not dude.

[@kturbo504]

Is that motor mount still available? If so you have a link? It looks beastly

[@micronrc3856]

Beast gears. Should last for ever.

[@jaypearce6199]

Micron Long Hope so dude!

[@camerondodson5925]

what monster

[@giopirmisashvili5514]

Thank you

[@frontleverguy2216]

That is a BEAST

[@jaypearce6199]

Thankyou buddy, i have a different mount and run a belt drive system now, video to be made tomorrow at the beach

[@frontleverguy2216]

Jay Pearce nice

[@Max0210]

Would you happen to know the best gear ratio for bashing on the 1.5 mod? I’m new to the unbreakable gears and they’re kind of expensive

[@mjsrcs3725]

Where can you get that gearing two bud I got 8s and would love two get this mod many thanks

[@socalRooster]

Can you share where you got your gears from

[@jaypearce6199]

A guy called Nathan Cation on the Mad Max owners fb group dude

[@evinthomas5610]

what motor mount?

[@jaypearce6199]

this is from B&M racing dude

[@speedgears1236]

Great video Do you have part #s for gears and motor mount?

[@AndyTSLMachinist]

Can you add the parts numbers for those gear, thanks!

[@sammitchell9850]

Where did u find the shaft that the spur gear mounts on??

[@jaypearce6199]

Its just a stock input shaft dude.. i bought mine ready made from a guy called Nathan Cation on the xmaxx owners page it came from the states though, if your in the UK then Andrew Appleton is your man, look up xmaxx slipper eliminator on ebay.. Hope that helps

[@The1madhopper]

B&M Will ship around the world

[@dabigshow6830]

Where did u get the battery adapter from ?

[@rmckelvy15]

Did you build the motor bracket

[@snorling87]

How can i get that position for the motor? :) I thinking of buying that motor!

[@jamesrobinson4950]

How's this setup holding up?

[@jacobhenson3952]

Do you think that motor is a bit to powerful I’m looking to get something and I was looking at this one or the 5892 might be better. I don’t know a hole lot about kv and all that really. What do u think ?

[@jaypearce6199]

Jacob Henson I would go with the 5892 or similar, i wish i did lol, this is to much power if im honest!

[@ali94hn]

KV= RPM per VOLT

[@ali94hn]

Low KV = lots of torque but lower speeds High KV = low amount of torque but lots of speed.

[@jacobhenson3952]

Ali H. Thanks man. I went on fast lane hobbies to try and find the spur eliminators and the 1.5 gears. It’s kinda confusing and I don’t know what to order. I tried to call the number but it says out of order. I’m almost afraid to put a order in ? Did you get yours from there website?

[@ali94hn]

Idk if you're asking me or him, I don't have a leopard motor lol.

[@JapanRCAdventuresS]

Go belt drive! Much better!!

[@jaypearce6199]

I have a belt drive system now dude, been running it for a few months. Will do a video at some point

[@mailmanx69]

@@jaypearce6199 - Do you like the belt drive even better than the massive 1.5 mod gears?

[@jaypearce6199]

@@mailmanx69 i do much prefer the belt drive, its quieter and smoother. However my belt did snap on the weekend whilst using it with paddles on the beach. Luckily spares are very very cheap so have ordered a few

[@olli460]

How much shipping did you pay to the UK, was there any import duties?

[@jaypearce6199]

olli460 Hey Bro, ive just checked i paid him 120 Dollars all in and no import to pay dude

[@olli460]

Ok cheers, Don't suppose you have any spare mod 1 8mm pinions i could buy do you? So hard to find in the UK and need one fairly urgently

[@jaypearce6199]

olli460 Yes i believe i have a couple, a 32tooth and ill have to check the other

[@olli460]

Jay Pearce OK please do check. I need less teeth if possible. Let me know can pay via PayPal.

[@deenice48]

Can you tell me where you could buy these gears from thank you

[@jaypearce6199]

A guy called Nathan Cation on the Mad Max owners fb group dude

[@The1madhopper]

B&M raceing and have the best

[@jaypearce6199]

Yep B&M racing, i have their new mount now and belt drive system..

[@michaelbroek1]

Where you got the shock limiters

[@A_Man_In_His_Van]

Not exactly an ideal gear mesh between the pinion and spur.

[@jaypearce6199]

It is now as i removed some washers dude, this was a while ago..