X-Men Girlbosses Murder Everyone In Sight

[@totomen666]

In x-men there no friends, only gays

[@riotkitty]

Only family with benefits. 😅

[@vjones17]

The X represents scissoring✂

[@hope-cat4894]

The LGBTX community.

[@vernonhampton5863]

@@riotkitty "Family with benefits", that's some Flori-bama, call the cops shit if I've ever seen it.

[@SolidGoldCEO]

Remember how Wolverine was tortured by his murky past, tortured by his animalistic nature, how he was unsure if it was right to try and direct X-23's killer instinct? Actual thought and feeling behind the action of taking a life. Those panels look like something Deadpool would do. The current X-Men have proven Cameron Hodge right.

[@EvandroACruz]

Duggan write a long Deadpool run in the past decade so isn't surprise that him turned all the characters in Deadpool clones in this shit.

[@Setzer81]

With X-Men like these walking around killing people and just being a menace, Senator Kelly and his Mutant Registration Act would have my vote.

[@maxmazzotti6651]

They became just like Magneto’s brotherhood and Apocalypse and his Horsemen

[@freman007]

Yes, and the Sentinel program.

[@ensabahnur7657]

@@maxmazzotti6651 You DAMN right! WTF were they suppose to do?

[@toddholland7511]

Yep! That’s when I let the book go. When I found myself rooting for Nimrod. I’d be building Sentinels in the Krakoan age.

[@toddholland7511]

@@ensabahnur7657They were doing this from day ONE of the “Krakoan Age”. From a Black market to countries that didn’t want their drugs,to committing genocide on a country that had a better drug,to stealing children from LOVING parents ( Franklin Richards).. These X-Men have done A LOT of dirt while playing “Victim”. This was never revolutionary violence,which is understandable,this was using Victimhood as a shield while becoming what you claim to hate.

[@josesarango3408]

I'm old enough to remember when Kitty and Yliana were likeable characters

[@knocklesnar]

But apparently you're not old enough to know how to properly spell the name of a character in a written medium

[@stonebaxter]

@@knocklesnar Oooh spelling-burn! You get to high-five everyone in your 5th grade class! Congrats dawg!!

[@uxm4life94]

For decades X-men was a book of hope and justice beloved by all. Now it's just a revenge power fantasy for hypocritical, professional victims who don't realise they are the very fascists they think they're fighting.

[@sardomarcrowe5723]

Exactly. The Nazis thought they were the good guys, and honestly, so do the authoritarian communists in Russia and China... They preached to the disenfranchised that they would be included but slowly ratchet down until all must be the same.

[@pauldareason]

sigh remember when punisher was considered extreme for killing, to the point where heroes tried to hunt him down?

[@EvandroACruz]

Good times. And now the entire X-Men are like Frank Castle.

[@nelsonhernandez6793]

The stupidest thing about "Kityana" shippers is that they don't think its at all weird or gross that Kitty and Illyana's BROTHER already f*ck*d and were in a relationship for years. Nope, they just are automatically scissor-sisters and were meant to be. They must not have any friends or know what having friends is.

[@stonebaxter]

People that immediately and desperately "ship" two characters like that without no context are, in fact, lonely and friendless in real life.

[@Awakeandalive1]

I think it makes perfect sense that a demographic that either openly or tacitly supports...child loving...would also want Kitty & the aged-up-child sister of her ex-fiance to hook up.

[@billybarnett2846]

A bunch of serial killer groupies have taken over the majority of the top two comic publishers.

[@PeterParker-ff7ub]

and our world

[@aqdrobert]

Uncle Ben: With great power comes great responsibility. Current Marvel: Shut up, Ben. Mutants need to kill Those People On The Wrong Side. Magneto said so. We believe it. That settles it.

[@vernonhampton5863]

My problem is, why are the X-Men so, damn, cruel? How is this a superhero story?

[@tacticianAlexandra]

The x-men come off like orcs. Given how cruel they are, only orcs will at least sometimes take prisoners. For this is the kind of thing you would show, if you want people to think it cool to slay orcs. Given they are pure evil.

[@shiftyeyedninja]

It's not. It's not the X-men either. Not anymore.

[@VimRazz]

They've been the Brotherhood of Evil Mutants in everything but name for almost a decade now.

[@kaczok1985]

It's a Brotherhood/Acolytes story

[@vilao9230]

They're acting like fucking Punisher bruh

[@ChristineP223]

Teasing Colossus’s own sister dating the woman who dumped him at the alter is all kinds of icky.

[@xdomeman]

Damn...

[@AL-ws5yi]

It’s sick and wrong.

[@robertgray1365]

It also makes Kitty and Illyana look like disgusting, shameless thots. I genuinely hate the majority of Marvel's current crop of "writers".

[@nelsonhernandez6793]

And "Kate" used to babysit 5yr old Illyana.

[@handlebarsmustache]

​@@nelsonhernandez6793🤢🤮

[@mechaman7818]

As someone who consistently argues against NO KILL clauses, all I can say about these comics is "Not like this! Not like thisssssss!" I felt the same way when Nightcrawler BAMF'd a dude into space so he would suffer before dying. What are you even doing, writers?! I guess I should believe people when they tell me it's either all murder or no murder, cause that's clearly how some peoples brains work.

[@tacticianAlexandra]

Yeah all their actions here, are just what a dungeon master would do, to show off orcs are pure evil in this world. Giving the approval for the pcs to just fight without worry, knowing the orcs if left alive would only go on to do more evil. Like the goblins in goblin slayer. For heck, the ways they kill people in this comic, would be brutal even towards orcs. This comic is like someone watch Hellsing, understood nothing about it beside the brutal deaths, then made that into a comic. Without Noticing oh yeah, Alucard is not a hero.

[@Алексей545-т6б]

@@tacticianAlexandra Why? I mean - this all out war that Orchis started. In all out war you kill enemy soldiers with everything you have in disposal while enemy try to do exactly the same to you

[@jagnestormskull3178]

​@@tacticianAlexandra And even then, most of the "people" Alucard kills (not all, obviously, RIP Brazilian police) are undead, so the audience can give him a pass on the morality. The Orchis agents are supposed to be actual, living people, not monsters that happen to look like people. It's more like Girlboss Punisher.

[@jagnestormskull3178]

@@Алексей545-т6б But the X-Men aren't supposed to be an army, they're supposed to be something better.

[@Алексей545-т6б]

@@jagnestormskull3178 That was before they created mutant nation right after another genocide made by humanity

[@eLWacKaZ]

So basically, they watched The Boys and Invincible getting more success than them on Amazon Prime so they are doing cheap copies of them now.

[@CoreySimms-hf3ml]

You know what’s funny, that’s literally in anything comic book media now, everything has to be The Boys or Invincible like I wish we could go back to heroes being heroes you know stopping villains and being a inspirations/role models for everyone like teaching people , this is not it😢😢😢😢😡😡😡😡

[@JohnnyScribe]

I like how Emma’s face is just an emoji in that panel. Quality art.

[@totomen666]

ah artist that draws everyone in book with same face.... what an atrocity

[@aqdrobert]

😛

[@Kendro311]

When I was young I knew one day I wouldn't "get" the music, that I'd fall off the pulse of what was "cool" and there'd be trends I wouldn't subscribe to. But I didn't expect for reality to flip and good things would become bad, and villains would be called heroes.

[@kalkella8822]

This is the whole point of Wolverine. You're supposed to send him in to do all this stuff so everyone else can keep their conscience clean. The sheer joy these X-Men take in killing is really gross and kind of defeats the whole point of them. I just re-read the Greg Rucka run of Wolverine and there's a story in there where Wolverine kills 27 sex traffickers, and even though he did the right thing he still felt guilt and had to sit down in a bar with Nightcrawler for an entire issue to get over the sheer carnage he caused. Compare that to the lack of compassion these X-Men have.

[@EvandroACruz]

Yes, I remember when Wolverine tried to be the only one in the team willing to get your hands dirt to your teammates don't become like him.And now all them are cold blooded murderers.There's no nuance in these characters anymore. No way Kitty,Colossus and Nightcrawler would be on board with straight up killings. Duggan wrote all them out your characterizations.

[@zackmullikin9723]

@@EvandroACruz Duggan has given us "The Homicidal X-Men."

[@EvandroACruz]

@@zackmullikin9723X-Murderers.

[@EvandroACruz]

@@zackmullikin9723X-Murderers.

[@ComicGuy74]

You know, I've read X-Men for 35+ years. Since I became a dad I had looked forward to sharing with my daughter my love of comics (specifically X-Men related) but since the Krakoan era all that's changed. Between orgy island and the heroes gleefully slaughtering any enemy the X-Men consider a threat or just because they deem it necessary for whatever plot point, I simply wouldn't feel like a good parent exposing her to this garbage. The X-Men were always heroes. They did the right thing and fought the good fight because they were the good guys, and that's simply not the case any more. they've crossed the line and I can't see them coming back from this era.

[@Алексей545-т6б]

Mutants were almost wipe out...again(!!!)... Start to fight back (you know things like this you expect when start war for survival)...and they are the ones who cross the line? ! Not Orchis who wipe out 99% of mutant population?!

[@EvandroACruz]

Yes, how all these characters can be heroes and inspiring anothers now? I just cannot to see the X-Men like the good guys anymore. I'll never touch in a new X-Men comic after this fanfic bullshit callled Krakoa Era is over.

[@Алексей545-т6б]

@@EvandroACruz So you want X men to be cucks forever?

[@karaoconnoraliasraidra]

The fact that these writers are excusing the characters being cruel and brutal with, “They were discriminated against, so they have the right to do what they’re doing!” says a lot about their mindset. I’ve been discriminated against and mistreated in my life, but you don’t see me brutalizing people or advocating cruelty. What do you want to bet they’re the same kind of people who try to silence victims by screaming, “You’re just trying to play the victim card! You’re not a real victim!” when they try to share their experiences?

[@tacticianAlexandra]

Yeah these people don't seem to get. these who are oppressed, can easily become the oppressor. Which I honestly would not be surprise if these people believe you can't be the oppressor due to historical lacking power or something something don't have power in the government. To somehow try and make this mindless slaughter ok. Which they are making the x-men act like your run of the mill evil orcs.

[@freman007]

Look at Darryl Davis. A black jazz singer who has extended the hand of friendship to Klan members, and was so persuasive that a Klan leader could tell a group of Klan members, "This is Darryl Davis. He's a black man, but I respect him more than any man here." People can change their minds.

[@TurnpikePaladin]

Do the people "shipping" Kitty and Illyana not know Kitty used to (rather seriously) date her brother Pitor? So, not only does it make no sense, but it's just straight up gross to even think about.

[@josesarango3408]

these idiots don't understand the concept of same-gender friendship

[@TerryB01]

The Marvel girlbosses are the worst around. Especially the monsters in the X-Men line.

[@fernandomata3425]

Huge x-men fan, 10 years since i stopped collecting x men, and im more happy than ever. Sometimes i read something online and im horrified every time.

[@dillbert4084]

The bloodthirstiness of Secret Invasion was a reason I eased back a lot on my comic reading at the time. This doesn't feel too shocking now.

[@EvandroACruz]

Yes everybody killing the Skrulls without any restraint make me sick in that time too.Quesada/Bendis Era ruined Marvel forever to me.

[@Julius.Council3]

Jeezus, I miss 90s era of comics especially X-Men 90s comics. It really brakes my heart to see what the X-Men have become. Everyone is boinking each other, they're just flat murderers now. AND most of the art is crap.

[@Whalewraith]

This level of art used to be called layouts and would be rescued by someone like Terry Austin or Klaus Janson. Remember when Wolverine 'slaughtered' the Hellfire club guards and it was considered to be crossing the line to the point they had to be brought back as cyborgs?

[@EvandroACruz]

Because Jim Shooter complained in that time. Claremont don't had any real intention to bring back these guys again because Wolverine don't need to play by the same rules of the rest of the X-Men in that time.

[@Whalewraith]

@@EvandroACruz thats my point, its like Jean had to die to atone for killing those planets in Dark Pheonix. Its editorial over sight. Can you imagine if Shooter was in charge and someone tried to push Nature girl's environmental murders?

[@EvandroACruz]

@@WhalewraithI remember a few years ago that Shooter told that give too freedom to the modern writers in nowadays.

[@nelsonhernandez6793]

Also, Kitty used to babysit 5yr old Illyana before she was sucked away into limbo for 7yrs. But, sure... they'll go on and on about Professor X having the hots for a teenage Jean and how gross and icky that is.

[@drunkdealer583]

The writers, as well as Orchis, has already killed the X-Men. 😢

[@WTSD850]

I read like 1or 2 pages of gerry dugan x-men and I immediately noped out to basically the whole krakoan era

[@charlesharrison1907]

This is a prime example of why not everyone should be allowed to write foundation characters/titles. The X-men will not be any better or different under this new editorial team.

[@EvandroACruz]

No, because there 's no comeback to them after this. They don't are heroes anymore.

[@blunderingfool]

I should finish my xmen script and compare. I don't think I could be worse than these guys.

[@vernonhampton5863]

You and me both. I am legit working on a pitch.

[@blunderingfool]

@@vernonhampton5863 I have the "game bible" and the major outline done, it's most everything else that needs doing. XD

[@stevehnatko1050]

This might be some of the worst interiors I have ever seen. Holy shit this industry is on life support.

[@EvandroACruz]

Modern writers can barely understand the heroism concept. No surprise that the mangas are trashing comics in nowadays.

[@thebibliophilering8881]

This feels less like the Rebels figuring out a way to destroy the Death Star and more like Mutant October 7th.

[@uxm4life94]

Phil Noto should be illustrating HR presentations instead of superhero comics.

[@sinnyboy9317]

Hell yeah, Girlbossing Heroic Antics!!! It's what we all want, don't lie, don't pretend. Quality shit lol Miss when X-Men wasn't such a mess haha

[@Rnewton14]

I’m reading X-Men for the first time, and I’ve made it to the X-Tinction Agenda crossover near the tail end of Claremont’s run. The difference in quality between what I’ve been reading and even some of the best comics in the Krakoa era is jaw dropping. I can see why people come back to these stories time and time again. People probably won’t do the same with the Krakoa era

[@josesarango3408]

good for you to discover what made X-men (and X-books in general) legendary. I suggest despite what some people say, keep reading after the Claremont run, it's still really good up to the Onslaught storyline +/-

[@georgemoralezii6529]

I can't fix everything, and didn't read the book only going off the pannels you have shown; but here are two things that could help to make the X-men appear to be more like heroes. #1: Instead of disintegrating the top half of the two red shirts; have some electricity around them to show they are being shocked into unconsciousness (heroes don't kill). #2: The other is instead of saying "lets go kill some fascists" say "get in, Orchid is holding hostages downtown, we need to save them." (no admittance to wanting to be a murderer)

[@Алексей545-т6б]

This is bullshit. Your concept of heroes get old + X men never was 100% about Hero's (this is not Super Man comics)

[@EvandroACruz]

@@Алексей545-т6бWrong. The X-Men were heroes YES in the past. Heroes don't kill.Period. They always can find better ways to deal your enemies. The X-Men don't are better than Orchis now.

[@Алексей545-т6б]

@@EvandroACruz You stuck in last century. Now days it just look stupid and unrealistic. . Also if Heroes dont kill, then why Steve Rogers aka Captain America kill nazi during WW2?

[@EvandroACruz]

@@Алексей545-т6бHeroes don't kill is your primary rule even in nowadays. Just look to Spider-man,Flash,Batman and Superman.All them are still abided by your no killing rules even in the present day. So what is not realistic? Fuck this. Superhero comics never supposed to be realistic in first place. The X-Men don't are heroes anymore.

[@Алексей545-т6б]

@@EvandroACruz All of them are idiots. Batman especially (all deaths cause by Joker are on him - basicly he is worse than Joker) . My question is - Why Cap America could kill nazi during WW2 and X man cant kill Orchis now? How it work?

[@AL-ws5yi]

I’m sickened by the X-men’s behavior. How are they any different from their enemies?

[@spinningtornado4543]

A quick comparison between what the X-Men have been doing and the brutal kills they pulled lately with what the Dark X-Men team from 2023 (made up of sociopathic villains like Madelyne Pryor, Emplate, Zero and Azazel) did would tell you that... Nothing. There's absolutely no difference between one group and the other in the way they deal with a conflict. Ex : Nightcrawler got rid of an Orchis agent by teleporting him to space so he'd slowly suffocate to death out there, which would sound more fitting for someone like Azazel to do yet here we are.

[@EvandroACruz]

They are no longer. Krakoa Era made all them in villains and jerkasses. All they are terrible people now.

[@EvandroACruz]

@@spinningtornado4543Even Dark X-Men don't gone so far like Kitty and Magic in this issue. They just slaughtered all Orchis mooks in that facility and ended smilling and hugging themselves. Gerry Duugan is a very disturbed man.

[@karaoconnoraliasraidra]

I heard about an emotional issue of a series by either Alan Moore or Grant Morrison (I want to say The Invisibles, but I could be wrong). Most of the issue showed this guy, an average Joe, dating his girlfriend, proposing to said girlfriend, planning their future together, etc. The big emotional twist came at the end, when it was revealed this guy, this ordinary guy who had been looking forward to spending the rest of his life with his loved ones, had been one of the guards/henchmen killed by the protagonists in a previous issue. They had burst in and slaughtered everyone in sight. It was thought-provoking because it showed things aren’t black and white. Henchmen can be people too and not necessarily evil, unfeeling monsters. Who knows how involved with/aware of any of the evil plot this poor schmuck was? Say what you want about the writer, but that issue had nuance instead of this overly simplistic, “They’re not one of us, so they must be evil trash unworthy to live and you must celebrate us massacring them or you’re a bigot!” garbage.

[@joshphelan6770]

SHAKAOOM! That's what sentenials sound like when they get some water in them lol. I thought these were the most dangerous ones we have ever seen. Stark should be like " oh I thought we had a problem here, nevermind"

[@OrthwormJEB]

Seeing these pages makes me glad I'm reading The New Mutants from the 80. Old school storytelling minus the girlboss tropes. And Emma Frost? More like Boss Frost. I'll go away now. 🚶

[@brianmcguinness9642]

So murderous psychopaths are now considered heroes? What a pathetic joke. It makes you want to root for the bad guys.

[@littlewolvie2396]

As sad as it is, are we actually surprised at this point? These writers are the same people who'll call terrorists who slaughter (and worse) innocent civilians, children and babies freedom fighters. You have to realize that these are the same people who find it perfectly defendable and justified to use violence or at least consider it, against people of the opposite political spectrum who they don't agree with. Because they are right and you're wrong, and if it takes violence to get rid of you and your opinions, that's perfectly fine or at least justified. They are not even ashamed of it and will almost downright admit it. It's actually really scary and troubling. But once you get that, these stories make perfect sense.

[@EvandroACruz]

People who think this way shouldn't o allow write superhero comics.I never will see the X-Men like true heroic characters anymore after this. Fuck Marvel and fuck Gerry Duggan.

[@hawkofsteel5169]

I wonder why children dont buy this anymore?🤮

[@sidneyrivera3578]

Further validation that X-Men books are not worth buying.

[@brandonjames.7061]

Phil Noto still getting interior comics work is so wild. Like the guy can draw that one pretty sad girl face, I get it. But you can clearly see how bored he becomes when it comes to backgrounds, illustrating movement, or heaven forbid drawing a different facial expression. Noto on interiors is the closest thing we have to AI comics at Marvel. Stop putting the pin up guy on the action comic book!

[@markskrzyniarz3074]

Marvel made a HUGE mistake not keeping the Soska Sisters on call after they wrote Black Widow: No Restraints Play - those two ladies knew how to make awesome female characters without being cringe. Their loss is the gain of independent comics: They have written Yaira #1 for Rippaverse Comics, and the pre-order campaign for it launched at 11 AM EST today, and has already smashed past its first benchmark goal of $300,000!!!

[@EvandroACruz]

This can be the worst single X-Men issue that I read in my life. This almost made me puke. No heroism in this,just a blood bath and the "heroes" smiling and hugging themselves in the end like true sociopaths. Magik and Kitty just gleefully slaughtered all the mooks in that Orchis facility.The scene with blood spreading in these windows is something worth of a Friday The 13Th comic book, not a X-Men book. That dark action girl in the ninja outfit don't can be Katherine Pryde by any means. She should suffering and feeling guilty and grief for killing people at the point that your mind would be shattered. Tony giving Emma that special gauntlets to kill is very out of your character. Duggan is a very disturbed man. True heroes always will choose do the right thing and defeat your foes without killing and the X-Men choosed just the easy way murder for revenge. When the fight with Orchis is finished and the dust settles the great question will be how the X-Men can be heroes yet after this? Because to me these characters never will be truly heroic again.Nevermore. Fuck Duugan and Fuck the entire X-Office.

[@egonnn244]

Does anyone remember when heroes were heroic? Yeah, me neither. Adventures in POOR taste. Was that supposed to be ironic? By the way, read the bio of the dude(?) who wrote that review. It's great.

[@EvandroACruz]

Marvel heroes stopped to be heroics since Avengers Disassembled.

[@regishel]

Everyone outside of shipping fandom, seems to Completely misunderstand words! Shipping, fanfic and slash shipping are NOT the Same. You can ship Han Solo with Leia Organa, doesn't mean it's a slash ship or that your writing fanfiction about!

[@incubustimelord5947]

Always remember that these kinds of writers have no humanity.

[@jagnestormskull3178]

So they've turned X-men into Girlboss Punisher. Just what _everybody_ wanted. /s if it wasn't obvious

[@thebigidea9659]

Xmen only in name at this point

[@EvandroACruz]

X-Murderers.

[@stevehernandez9736]

I’m never referring to Kitty as “Kate”

[@uxm4life94]

Image at 4:21- these are the heroes new fans want!?,

[@EvandroACruz]

Yes, what beautiful new generations of human beings.

[@Jaymalkin980]

This the equivalent to salting the ground on the way out?

[@BeowulfBellmont22]

What would top off this absolute abomination of a comic book would be if after their scissor sister marriage, they would have a three way with Mystique so that “she” can give either or both of them surrogate children.

[@spinningtornado4543]

That retcon was made, written and sold by an absolute brain dead of a loser : I don't regret not checking out on X-Men since the start of this year ever since they allowed his mess of a one-shot to be published.

[@Alexander-Lionheart_1881]

This entire comic is disgusting, the panel at 4:21 is just disturbing and gross, i really hope Nimrod takes care of these two

[@Barot8]

Thank you Wes and Dok.

[@APsychicMonkey]

Bad art, bad dialog, bad story: yup, it's a modern X-Men comic!

[@NormLenhart-v4l]

Just for the record, it's an economic reality that buying a product from a company is supporting that company. It's also an economic reality that subsidizing something will get you more of that something. I don't make the rules here. Econ 101 did. So I sure hope no one commenting bought any Marvel books after discovering the company went woke a decade plus back.

[@addieroth5201]

I don't understand when mutants started having sex? I don't really want to see that.

[@cheeseburgersuperior1874]

Emma's next mutant evolution: The Wine Aunt Karen

[@michaeldinowitz3163]

Any Jewish character will be made gay when the writers run out of ways to evolve them (other than examining their all but forbidden religious aspects). This is doubly so when the Jewish character is female.

[@PrivateCitizen84]

ESG bonus double dip the diversity.

[@michaeldinowitz3163]

@@PrivateCitizen84 Jews don't count for diversity. We're lumped in as white even though more than half of us have various shades of darker skin.

[@raistlinmajere3194]

Duggan should be ashamed just for this issue alone. What a disgrace.

[@EvandroACruz]

Duggan is a very disturbed man.

[@mitchellalexander9162]

Yes. They STILL THINK that they can do this in a Post ISOM World. But the Honeymoon can only last so long for about One. Final Decade.

[@MSinistrari]

Insisting Kitty Pryde and Illyana are in a relationship's been going on in the fandom for decades. What all of us saw as two teen girls as friends, others interpreted as a couple.

[@robertgray1365]

I cannot stand Phil Noto's artwork, he completely ruined the final arc of Rick Remender's Uncanny X-Force for me. I mean, how do you make someone getting eaten alive by a shark from the inside look dull? I'm sure his art is just fine on a slice of life book at Image but he needs to stay far away from action/adventure comics.

[@waynetech10]

Toss X-Men on that dead brand pile. Like so many things, it's infested with this damaging message, and written by people who not only can't write good stories, but don't understand comics, heroism, economics, or general good sense or taste. It's often repeated, but it holds true. Unless all of these people are fired, comics are dead. If there's a Crisis reboot, at DC or Marvel, and the same person are getting checks, it'll fail. Pne way or another, we'll get trash, like this, and "critics" who'll hype it up.

[@Mega_vegeta]

create stories the fans don't want by writers who insult them and ask why sales are in the trash.

[@sonnywoods6846]

I remember when people were like there is nothing wrong with shippers! I knew this was going to happen, ban all shippers

[@kelpietales4503]

Reading the AIPT review hurt, and yes, felt very "Tumblr." They very least live up to the "poor taste" part.

[@garou12]

remember the days of remember's x force when a small group of them sacrificed their integrity to become a kill squad to protect the rest of their race and had mental struggles with having to do that?

[@Canuckit]

Gotta agree about Duggan. I tried reading his Alpha Flight story, out of love for those characters. As best I could figure, everything Gerry Duggan knows about Canada is what he skimmed off an AI-generated single paragraph summary.

[@EvandroACruz]

He wrote a Alpha Flight book?

[@Canuckit]

Volume 5, I think? @@EvandroACruz Though, to be fair, I think Ed Brisson was worse.

[@doommega]

History will - it Must - it will Show that the X-men is a Constant reminder of why certain Individuals in comics are in the wrong chairs of control... it must be wrested from them and Put in Place the quality Like People who Understand what this genre is... i Keep thinking the bar is Low yet they keep finding ways to make it go subterranean LOL

[@jeremyrayne]

That art is SO lifeless. Everyone looks strung out, bored, and tired.

[@daveassanowicz186]

Good grief, that art is atrocious. They have the nerve to charge money for that crap?!

[@merelythepawn]

'I would have to give it maybe a .5 out of 5. Maybe 1 out of 10'. Come on. It’s not that bad is it? Polaris: 'I want to kill this thing but the Orchis dude we stole Mars from - I always forget his name - he put countermeasures into these machines - I can’t just crush them!' Kitty: 'Keep it looking at you.' Polaris: 'That’s why I --UGHN!-- put on makeup'

[@joeparrigen4982]

Damn that's bad.

[@dony2852]

Adventures in Poor Taste's review is some definitive proof we are living in Idiocracy. The only difference is that all our presidential candidates are far older and dumber than President Camacho.

[@InfamyOrDeath-__-]

Want good female characters? Go read manga, so many cool characters there that aren’t these horrendous versions we get in comics. It’s just pathetic at this stage.

[@garywillig5143]

The point of raiding that facility was to rescue the mutant kids Orchis was holding there. It is very easy to miss that they did in fact rescue the kids given how badly written the issue was. There's 1 panel of Magik hitting the button that lets the kids out of their cells and 1 of the kids running out of the building. Even Hickman failed at building up Orchis as a threat because he wrote that Krakoa kept sending Wolverine and Quentin over and over again to get slaughtered over and over again rather than put any thought into it. Duggan, the guy who over and over again just has Jean automatically win because she's 'omega,' was never going to be able to make them a realistic threat when Hickman couldn't. I wish writers would start remembering that Magik's origin story has her sparing the man who kidnapped her, murdered her friends and family, and tortured her for 7 years, because killing in anger even once would turn her into a demon forever. But ever since Louise Simonson decided to retcon her origin into her having killed Belasco back when she took over New Mutants from Claremont in the late 80s, writers have forgotten that she's the last character who should ever be comfortable with killing given she risks turning into an unstoppable world-ending rage-monster if she does it even once.

[@spinningtornado4543]

If the leaks for the July reboot are to be trusted, then Magik's situation will only get worse as she appears to be the next big X-Men antagonist. Hopefully this turns out false but you never know with the Marvel's editorial.

[@garywillig5143]

@@spinningtornado4543 They announced the main X-Men books of the post-Krakoa era yesterday. The 3 books are X-Men by Jed MacKay, Uncanny X-Men by Gail Simone, and Extraordinary X-Men by Eve L. Ewing. Magik is confirmed to be on the team led by Cyclops and Magneto in the MacKay book.

[@spinningtornado4543]

I agree with you : Orchis is such a badly put together antagonist for the X-Men. Every single anti-mutant group we had in the past eras at least had something positive or interesting going for them to set them apart from the ones preceding it... But not Orchis. That anti-mutant group is on some award-winning levels of both stupidity and incompetence as well as being on a Saturday morning cartoon villain's degree of obvious and extreme evil but with none of the entertaining extravaganza that usually comes with the character trope. It gets to the point where readers genuinely have to pause and ask themselves how that group got on top of the social ladder and became such a threat to mutants from being this incompetent at dealing with PR and mutants.

[@spinningtornado4543]

​​@@garywillig5143 Sounds promising. Hopefully they don't pull any kind of bait and switch with the characters or have Magik do an unexpected heel turn for the sake of it.

[@tommix6016]

'Creatives' that despise heroism ruin the industry, it's sad but they have t live with the hate and spite in their heads souring themselves full time and that at least is a plus.

[@extremepop324]

If anyone hasn't never seen My Hero Academia. I HIGHLY recommend it if you miss the "Real" X-Men. Its all about being a real hero, and theres lots of in depth characters in the team. Its the best superhero cartoon hands down

[@KardboardKenny]

my daughter can't stand western cape comics. MHA is by far her fav manga/anime. to me that alone tells me how good it is w/o reading/watching a single issue/episode.

[@smoore6461]

I remember Emma Frost from the Hellfire club uncanny Xmen 130 to 141 in that era. THAT was when comics were well written, well drawn and just plain great. 132, 133, and 134 into dark Phoenix in 134, 135 and 136 and Xmen 141 "days of future past" when only kitty pride and Wolverine were left. So well written and such good stories from thr 1980's when I waited for each new episode with massive anticipation.

[@Bleakertube]

I couldn’t get past the description of Magic and Kitty in the beginning. Fan fiction made horribly real.🤮

[@Slitheringpeanut]

The reason Marvel hired the Tumblrinas is because that's what Hollywood did with animators. Pendleton Ward of Adventure Time opened the doo, and when the Studios, like Disney, ESPECIALLY Disney but also WBD, noticed that these political, no talent hacks could be hired for literal pennies and the artstyle was incredibly cheap to animate, Hollywood let these weirdos in. Hollywood and comics are now intertwined and corrupted, poisoned. Welcome to yet more proof.

[@peterburman5193]

The review basically said the only downside to this issue was: not gay enough? lol these people are clowns!

[@sometimesfriendly9839]

That Marvel art. I couldn't imagine paying for it except to skewer it.

[@madbug1965]

Make me EIC and I will launch an event that destroys everything and reveals that everything published for the last 10 years was not the 616 universe. Effectively I would reset the Marvel 616 back 10 years....

[@Slitheringpeanut]

You would have no power. You'd be threatened by the Execs and their Pet writers. Remember the last time one of them got uppity and thought he could actually do his job? They outed him in front of the cult. Sure, to you and me, being Akira Yoshida wasn't a big thing, but the Hollywood dogma, that is a literal death sentence. They would have put him out on the street making sure he could never get another job and happily laughed as they watched Cebulski slowly die of starvation, never having to lift a finger. That's why there's no Editorial oversight in Marvel.

[@gavsmi6452]

Old fans - we want to see the X-Men be heroes, we want them to bring bad guys to justice but avoid killing if possible, we want good vs evil. New fans - we want a Jean/Scott/Logan three way, we want Iceman gay, we want Kitty and Ilyana gay. I mean are all new fans just perverts??? 😂

[@jerryharris6342]

What the F did they do to Kitty?

[@O_G_HELLBOY]

My question is where are the actual X-Men? 😢

[@spinningtornado4543]

Dead and in the ground since before HoX/PoX even ended.

[@havokan45]

When Kate called off the Wedding to Colossus before she called it off Kate and Magik was having a heart to heart fans think they had feelings for one in other then Gambit & Rogue got Married instead. I forget the other comic that Dr. helped Cyclops and they figure out they have to work together to take down Orchis AI leaders they want to rule with out the mutants & humans . That's the whole problem with Krakoa era it seems like the books are putting out stories and not fucking talking to one in other . I forget what happen but the book the story arc hit 2 issues after it happen and it just happen. . The only X book i really liked was the Hellions and i only read it because Havok was on the team . Before Hellions i hated Greycrow ,Empath,Wildchild,Nanny & Orphan Maker now i kind of like them . . Hellions did treat everyone not name Psylocke in the book like crap and maybe that's why i liked the book other people where getting shit on now not just Havok

[@brianerickson6775]

Orcus is a D&D Devil. Can Marvel come up with original name? Can Marvel or DC write anything that isn't LGBT(whatever) Pornographic Romance Stories? Hell, those stories aren't even good.

[@joshuay5581]

These comics are becoming more horseshit with each passing issue. This is just #32, we still have to wait until #35 before this is all over. God help us with what we see next. My inner 80s comic fan is currently curled up in the corner crying his eyes out.

[@EvandroACruz]

Gerry Duggan is awful.

[@rodrigogirao8344]

Psychopathic writing aside -- the art is so drab, lifeless, there is no dynamic, no sense of movement!

[@MrGunBunny13]

The writer comes off as childish and exactly the reason God doesn't give us superpowers. The art is marginal at best. The storyline is weak. Shippers belong in chippers. I've dropped Marvel. Not just X-Men, but the entire company.

[@Akihito007]

Out of twenty years of reading X-Men, Kitty Pride was NEVER hinted at being a lesbian. My goodness, I still remember her being in a relationship with Colossus and spreading his ashes after he "died" sacrificing himself to cure the Legacy virus (retconned into Colossus being alive and the one who died was just a Skrull I think". What GARBAGE X-Men have become :/.

[@Rushman666]

That thumbnail face

[@Mr_Subtle]

How exactly are Orchis wrong? Where the gell are the Avengers to take down these genocidal mutie freaks. Long live Genosha! And go buy the Energon comics, can't believe the toy universe is this good

[@locusmortis]

"We're killing the fascists" - This is an author self-insert for what he'd really like to do to "right-wingers" and republicans, this is an absolutely odious comic.

[@PrivateCitizen84]

I just buy GN format so I can wait on the best of the best trades. Thanks for saving my money in the future.

[@cheeseburgersuperior1874]

So, the X-Men are STILL about Martin Luther King, Malcolm X, and civil rights? lol.

[@EvandroACruz]

No it's just a revenge fantasy tale in this point.

[@cheeseburgersuperior1874]

@@EvandroACruz lol. yet those "fans" are still clinging to it. they just love convenient outdated ideologies.