X4 Foundations: Testing the Rattlesnake

[@Viridian66]

You worked that thing harder than a rented mule! Impressive video.

[@SpaceTrump]

Love the Rattlesnake... who need shields when everyone is already dead.

[@ragnos28]

I've love it too...until it went boom :(

[@SpaceTrump]

@@ragnos28 Yeah... Xenon weapons need to be nerfed a bit and their shields need to be buffed... that way its more of a slog fight than ooops i went under 6k and now i am dead... Same with plasma... just a tiny bit of a nerf and all shields caps buffed a good amount... in my opinion. And maybe all hull health buffed a tiny bit... I like long fights and with how dumb the AI is.. longer fights give you more time to react. Considering I am a computer programmer I should do this... it wouldn't be too hard to add a 5% nerf here and a 10% buff there...

[@ronaldwoofer5024]

tHaNkS fOr uR hElP yea no problem, just saving the galaxy here from the xenon

[@heyhoe168]

here is 600 000 for you job. Sorry you for your loss of a 24 000 000 ship. :D

[@alithahnar7957]

The Rattlesnake is a great Player controled Destroyer, needs a lot of maneuvering and situational awarness. Sadly the advent of the Osaka did kill the primary outstanding function high frontal firepower.

[@ragnos28]

I know, but is just not my style to constantly twist and turn. From what I've seen, you must rotate for the entire duration of the fight. Screw that, I need a stable platform, to let the turret work.

[@alithahnar7957]

@@ragnos28 heh, gets even better not just twist and turn, proper engagement would be to focus the P and let the turrets deal only with the M and N. Like i said great player platform bad Ai Ship the closest thing to how Frigates should play imho.

[@РоманКостыря-л5ь]

@@ragnos28 Only with 5+ plasma fireing at the same enemy you can go "Let the turrets do the work" on K's and L's. That's why a main battery exists

[@ragnos28]

@@РоманКостыря-л5ь The problem is that the split main battery have amoung the lowest dmg per hit, at about 1.608 MJ, so the L turrets must also engage capitals, you cannot let them to do AA work, w/o a huge hit in dps.

[@РоманКостыря-л5ь]

@@ragnos28 That's why you have 4 of them, so what's the problem? Besides all Split ships designed for hit and run tactic. You can't just sit there and take damage from K's. Also why do you have beams at the back? It's only have 6 L-turrets total, and you wasted those slots. You can do something like that on Syn, no problem, but the Rattlesnake - not so much. And that's because, with terran mk3 shields, the Syn has 208k Mw shields with 1272/sec recharge rate, all the while Rattlesnake only has 69k Mw with 424/sec (3xslots against 1xslot). About the main battery - Terran in Syn (with 3 of them) - 6.9k sustained dmg/sec, Split - 6.5k sustained dmg/sec Pack it with all L-plasma, and focus on the K. Try to remain at least 6.5km from it (at that range you will be out of it's turrets reach) - you will see the difference. Yes your main battery have a range of 6.7km, but not the L-plasma (ARG - 8.6km, PAR - 8.9km, and only Split - 6.9km). And also Rattlesnake has 10 M-turrets (2x2 slots and 2x4 slots) - thats more than enough to defend against a smallcraft. And yes - NEVER USE SPLIT SHIELDS they just there to put the plug in a slot. They are more or less non-existant.

[@alyeakitty]

Easy come...easy go~

[@ragnos28]

I tried so hard and got so far But in the end it doesn't even matter :D

[@RevengA4]

@@ragnos28 :D

[@Zeroczar]

factions need cruisers and battleships imo the current destroyers seem a little lacklustre, exception with the terrans of course.

[@josephprins1258]

Imo this is easily the best L class destroyer. My second favorite is the Barbarossa even though that's technically more of a Freighter.

[@ragnos28]

Not so much for me, with its single L shield slot, that is M ship shield value. If I have M shields, I rather be in an M ship, a lot more maneuverable. 😋 My favorite is the Syn, for many reasons: - shields - firepower - a huge crew capacity, lots of room for marines 😁

[@josephprins1258]

@ragnos28 Not for me. The Rattlesnake with simple engine mods move at 399m/s a second in combat, slasher mods give it a 25k burst. The rattlesnake can out run just about all S class ships in combat and burst anything down. Think about this, a rattlesnake is out running the Gladius, the Shih, and all other S class ships outside scouts and Split fighters. You really shouldn't be face tanking in a rattler. If you see the guy in the video is flying his like a brick letting fate decide what happens, just kinda sitting around not really kiting. He could be kiting entire swarms of Ks out gunning and kiting swarms of Xenon while dropping laser towers. One rattlesnake can clear out an entire sector with this strategy. The Syn is a brick, you kind of have to fly it that way though. It's not outrunning or kiting anything, but it can face tank better however there is a limit to that. Just think about that, the rattler is an L class ship and it's faster than almost all fighters. No other destroyer moves that fast in combat while hitting that hard. That's nuts.

[@ragnos28]

@@josephprins1258 The thing is...I do like to fly like a brick. 😁 I've seen the Rattle being used the way you describe..always on the move, and spinning and spinning...effective, but not my style. I need an stable platform to deliver maximal dps and maximal accuracy from the turrets. Hence the Rattle is not for me, and on that note neither is the Dragon...I always get my butt kicked when trying to use them in combat 😋....with the spIit, I only know how to sic swarms of Chimeras on the opposition. 😁 In short, the Rattlesnake is great...I just tend to die a LOT when I use it. 🤪

[@SpaceDad42]

@@ragnos28 But slow as molasses in January.

[@ragnos28]

@@SpaceDad42 Is a tradeoff, slow, but I wont lose my shields because 2 xenon M are shooting at me. The only dowside of Syn's low speed I've noticed is that I can't take on an I that has 3 Ks in close proximity, and I need to spread them somehow. 🤔

[@adimasguntur]

Have you ever compared osaka to syn before? Is syn significantly stronger?

[@ragnos28]

Yes, Syn is stronger, imo, with 3 main batteries, instead of Osaka's two and has more L turrets.

[@NepoznatYuspeedy]

The clicking on the deploy military and then selecting what to drop takes way too long time and will end up launching only one turret. There is a much faster way to deploy large number of mk1 laser turrets. What you need is to go to ship information (above the deploy military) and in that newly opened window choose the show equipment loadout tab, the spanner icon, scroll down where the deployables are listed will see a grayed out Deploy. Once clicking on the mk1 laser towers and the deploy becomes active, so spam click that deploy. 😎

[@ragnos28]

Good advice, but the fact we don't have a hot key combo to drop laser towers just suck .... things...

[@Ashmodai]

Not sure if it's new but you CAN bind a key to dropping towers...

[@josephprins1258]

@@Ashmodai yea this is recently added.

[@yamahab]

What Ship Mods did you use on this?

[@ragnos28]

I think that it has nano for chasis, pasive for shield, and a blue one for engines. 🤔

[@diegozarate9728]

With which faction can you get that ship?

[@ragnos28]

Split.

[@bbraha93]

So now I'm playing with Syn and it seems it's much stronger than the rattlesnake except the speed after watching this video Tell me guys,in order to build Syn and Asgard I need to create it on my own shipyard?

[@Zeroczar]

Yep, i made a factory in asteroid belt and am churning out 5 asgards at a time, only issue i have is crewing them which is a pain so i go and send them to an argon shipyard to get crew.

[@yamahab]

@@Zeroczar you can pirate them both

[@РоманКостыря-л5ь]

Yes, or you can just board them if you like)