Egnater Vengeance - Forgotten High Gain Alternative?

[@Gnomesaw]

Man this amp actually sounds really good in this demo.

[@jonlorbacher]

This amp shines with lower tuned stuff though, which I think was more what they were after with this and the Armageddon. It works incredibly well in a live mix too, especially when your other guitarist uses the usual suspect high gainers.

[@vioreldalia4684]

I've had this amp for a couple years bought it from a music store that was going out of business the owner was desperate and picked it up $300 with foot pedal (right place right time) replaced the tubes to EL34's playing thru 2 Marshalls 4 X 12 slant cabs loaded with greenbacks and in my opinion this amp is a pure tone machine for the music I play and by the way it has really nice cleans - for me changing tubes and speakers made all the difference in the world - I just love it!

[@dustinblock9186]

Can't beat an honest opinion, however me personally i dig this amps tone. Better tubes and a choice speaker setup in the cab etc. Id be balls deep into this unit

[@davidmarles9409]

Tubes won't help unless something is wrong with 1.

[@IamtheFerryMan]

Inowned one of these and man, it had this low mid growl in the room I've never heard from another amp. The sheer amount of options and control is mind blowing as well. Fantastic amps for sure. I'm picking up a Renegade 65 in a trade later this week.

[@HoshiFanatic]

If you want to hear this in a mix, look up Outbreak Xero - Down. I used an 8 string (Low D#), Egnater Vengeance and Avatar v30 cab.

[@YootYube]

Interesting how it's different strokes for different folks. I liked a lot of the tones you didn't like, but the tone at 11:27 that you liked is one I didn't really enjoy. I also enjoyed the Egnater Renegade and Rebel 30, so maybe his ear and my ear just get along. Nice demo! So good to hear something that sounds organic. It's a breath of fresh air from those reactive load + IR demo people from whom every amp sounds the same.

[@Danny.B82]

You can’t like every amp and it’s nice to see you tubers who give their honest opinion, that’s why we watch . I’ve never tried this amp but coming out of my monitors it sounds mean !

[@belligerentamateur]

Sounds better on the playback than it did in the room, but yeah, I was not digging it haha

[@asherplatts6253]

This amp actually sounds great with the scooped sound

[@benjaminhutcherson]

I think this amp is also VERY particular about speakers/cabs, moreso than most amps I’ve ever owned. I love the way it sounds through my Orange 412. I also play a heavily detuned 7 string baritone so some of the pokiness in the mids is more desirable for my setup. Still, thanks for doing a video of this amp!

[@estebanjosealvarado3138]

I totally agree! I have an Armageddon and it doesn't get well with the Celestion G12T-75 and Eminence Legend V12 I have in my cab. I think Vintage 30's and similar speakers are a better fit for them. I've also considered a G12K-100 or a Mojotone Greyhound. Choices, choices...

[@Surron_Bomber_TX]

Kyle the Egnator you should try if you haven't is the Armageddon Its way different and way more aggressive. I had both and the Armageddon is one of my favorites. I use it as my live amp for its versatility and sound. I was kinda of like you at one point had 38 heads and 12 different cabs. Only have 6 now and 6 Cabs.

[@seandempseymusic]

Have you tried the Egnater Armageddon? I used one primarily for the last 8 years and just recently got rid of it for a Bluguitar Amp1 Iridium Edition for live playing. I've been binging your videos a lot recently. Thanks for the educational, fun, metal content as always! 🤘

[@belligerentamateur]

I have not, but it's certainly on the list to try!

[@heavymetaljesus2630]

@@belligerentamateur The Armageddon give you more control on your mid, it has a Midrange Depth & Level control, which the Vengeance doesn't have

[@daverice1952]

I’m a newcomer to high gain tube amplification. After looking at some budget friendly options out there I came across this one. I actually checked out this review before I picked it up along with a few others. Turned out to be an amazing barn find! Got it for $150 because the seller thought the tubes might be going bad. Turns out, just needed to operate with enough power to warm them up properly! That and a little DeoxIT. I’ve got it paired with an inexpensive Orange 412 with Voice of the World speakers and she goes pretty well on clean and lead channels, and I’m a fan of the onboard reverb. Might not be the go-to for the everyday thrasher, but I’d def consider it for a broader mix. Enjoyed the review though. Gave me some good perspectives to consider!

[@josephzawrotniak8140]

I had the vengeance and Armageddon side by side at GC a few years ago . It was like night and day . I went home with the Armageddon. Lil boost pedal or parametric eq and its really a great amp . I run it through K85s .

[@thomasturner8064]

I've owned the Vengeance for years but have never heard an Armageddon. You say there is quite a difference.In gain, overall tone, top and/or bottom end? Just curious because I didn't think there was that much difference between the two besides built in noise gate and a couple other added features on the Armageddon. Any info you have would be appreciated, thanks.

[@Acekorv]

I have this amp. It’s exactly the sound I like. I’m an alternate picker and it has that nice “thud” when you hit the note . You hear exactly what your fingers are doing. I would describe it as “punchy”. Very fun playing lead on. I don’t like shrill/fuzzy amps at all, this is def not how my amp sounds must be your fingers. 😂 This amp does 80s well, and all eras of rock. Classic Rock and Metal machine. But if you want to play death metal, maybe not, but you can def play trash metal with it. I tried and have played a bunch of amps over the years but what I really like about this is that it’s extremely versatile. It’s my go to tube amp at home. The clean channel is good as well. Can def be used for nice sounding cleans. Of course it doesn’t really get up to my Fender Twin Blackface. But not many other amps do cleans that well. With this you can tweak bias and stuff as well. Check out other demos on it. This review is very much about taste and music is about taste. There are tonnes of amps I do not like either. Not saying you should get one but I def like mine.

[@jdrum4371]

I run a stereo set of armageddon with the Armageddon cabs. People go nuts over my guitar sound. I run stereo effects through the effects loop as well. Huge sound.

[@EXRICHEX]

I have the Armageddon and love it! My old guitar player has the vengeance and I will say it did sound different than mine, which is odd because i'm pretty sure the only difference between the two is mine has an extra channel and more mid scoop control. Might be worth redeeming Egnater since this one seemed to leave a sour taste in your mouth lol.

[@Tacklebox455]

I remember being excited to try one of these out at guitar and I tried for 45 minutes or better to try and dail in a tone I liked and to me there is upper and lower mid frequencies missing and I didn't like the bass response,but like you stated you have times of options and at first look you would hey this can do it all but sadly it can't.

[@belligerentamateur]

Yep, pretty much my same reaction the first time I played it. Hard to get a balanced eq going where it doesn't sound muffled, flat or muddy

[@dennisasselstine2271]

I had this amp, and feel the amp sits in a live mix very well. A nice lead tone can be dialed organic or with a bit of tube screamer. Additionally you can get a different gain and freq shift, swapping out the 4 X 6L6s with EL34. There is a Bias adjustment on the back . Just need a 12$ volt meter to change tube bias for EL34. These amps really are cab dependent as others have pointed out I used a Marshall 1960A and the tones are a bit different then what I’m hearing here. On you vid, I felt I heard the best hot tones came out with the last guitar swap in this great video. Maybe the pickup in the ESP is not the best match, not sure. Excellent video, enjoy your funny interjections as well. Great job!!

[@RisingMoon697]

Open the back and there is The ODS/ODV switch selects one of two input circuits for the high gain channels only. ODV is the tube input path. ODS selects a really cool,high voltage input circuit that does a remarkable job of simulating the actual tube. The reason we have it in there is because of the unpredictable quality of tubes in general. That part of the circuit is most sensitive to a noisy or microphonic tube. By switching to the ODS setting, the first tube stage is replaced thus eliminating the headaches caused by bad tubes. Just thought I'd let people know about it. I've owned three of these amps due to issues under warranty. My third one is now collecting dust because one day the high gain channel just up and quit. I just pulled it out and dusted it off to be used for a pass through for my Headrush. Lastly, the pots on these amps suck ass. Constantly need to be cleaned and even then cut out or become scratchy shortly after. Trying to find an enjoyable sound out of this amp is next to impossible. Such a waste considering all the tech they put into it.

[@creepwave6108]

I'm picking one up today for $300. Egnater made some awesome stuff.

[@newamerikangospel]

How do you feel about the recorded tone versus in the room? I think what I like about this amp is how thick the spectrum is when recorded. It has a great lead tone in my opinion, and works great as a layer for rhythm.

[@belligerentamateur]

It sounds way better on the playback than it did in the room. It was all sorts of spikey in the mids and highs in a very fatiguing way

[@DiscoD777]

From over here the amp sounds great without added boost or EQ pedals. Great demo

[@paztheripper]

I dig it , sold my 6505 got this to replace it much more versatile and user friendly

[@natethompson1257]

I've never been a huge Egnater fan. All their amps seem to suffer from a super nasally midrange that takes way too much effort to eliminate. It's actually quite nice to see a KZbin demo where the reviewer is open and honest about a product they don't care for. Keep up the good work man. Cheers from California!

[@PippPriss]

Actually really like the sound of this, at least in this setup. Has a nice chunky low mid section, especially at 11:55 this sounds gnarly mean!

[@dressedtosmellgood]

yeah this amp kills idk what this guys problem is

[@devonmoore9448]

Whats awesome is that sizzle you like its the same sizzle I hate so this video really helps. I'm looking into the egnater rebel mark 2 Appreciate you dude!

[@ted_talks]

Tight sounding amp head. I think it sounds great!

[@jamesviolette3rd463]

I was wondering about this Amp as well. I had a rebel 30 that isn't even a high gain Amp really but after I boosted it , was pretty kickass for most of what you ask of it. Great video as usual. It's funny because every Amp I wonder about, I'll see a video that you've done for it.. on every one pretty much.

[@belligerentamateur]

That's my aim, man! Demo every amp in a high gain setting!

[@Straightedge63]

theres some sections that sound good, but overall, its not a great vibe. have you tried the tourmaster 4100?

[@Edika12]

Hey man, great review as always! I have this amp and I do agree it is a dark sounding amp with a weird midrange. I like it as it has a kick ass clean chanel (I know, not the target of this chanel lol) and it is different enough from my 5150II so that I can switch whenever my ears get too tired of the piercing aggressiveness of the Peavey (if that's ever possible). I had the Randall Diavlo RD100 and vastly preferred the Egnater over it. But the fact you're honest about what you don't like is great as it might be something other people won't enjoy in this amp. It's definitely not ideal for really low tunings or 7 strings but sounds brutal with bright guitars and mid heavy pickups. If you haven't sold it yet, one thing you can try is to flip the switch just in front of the PT. You can see the manual for that. The default position gives you a solid state first gain stage vs the V1 tube supposedly to help with low volume playing. I'm not sure which position you have it but you can have a go at it. I found that when switching to the tube in V1 vs the solid state circuit, some of the harsness you mention goes away and it sounds a bit smoother. It still is dark sounding and might be even mushier for your ears but you should notice a difference at least! One thing to mention, mine has Mercury Magnetics OT and PT transformers. The previous owner said it was moded but I read they also changed to those for reliability issues. In any case I can't really say what effect they would have vs a stock one so have a look also what kind of transformers yours has. Cheers and keep up the awesome reviews!

[@IamtheFerryMan]

Yes!! I did this with mine and left it as it sounded better to me. This thing loved my cabinets. I have 2 Fender Roc Pro 1000 cabs. They are cheap as dirt and super light but they have a sound and I've owned them for 20 years.

[@justinkantner7162]

Neat demo, to my ears this amp sounds good and I might buy one in the near future.

[@ryanyager7]

i always thought my egnaters sounded thin and kind of lame until someone told me using the Main volume 2 makes it fatter. Went home and tried it with my renegade and sure as shit the amp came alive. Sounds dumb but it's a great hidden feature.

[@creepwave6108]

Try biasing it first. Mine was biased very cold from the factory. Also flip the switch behind the transformer so that it is pointing out. Inward is solid state preamp, outward is tube. The original hot mod v2 H+ also works in V4 of this amp. Make sure to read the manual to find v4.

[@belligerentamateur]

I've had like 8 of these things and they have all sounded like this. Just not my cup of tea.

[@alreadydead6914]

I'm playing that exact amp as we speak lol. You sold it to the guitarist in my band. While its definitely not my favorite sounding amp I do think it sounds killer for the stuff we play. More doomy and not quite as technical. It took me a bit to dial it in because as you said the presence really doesnt add sizzle. Keep in mind I'm not a fan of the fizziness of the 5150\EVH\Invective stuff. In fact i had all of your same reactions with a 6505 and invective. They just had exactly what i dont like lol. The vengeance just reminds me of my randall diavlo 100 but with a different eq shape and personally I like this better than the rd100. I tried to like the rd100 because I have an rd40 combo that i love but it wasnt the same at all. I get the feeling that Bruce might have used that layout for this amp with a few changes. Some better, some worse.

[@godlyk3]

Thanks for the honest review, I own this amp and really like it. That being said I've never played a real high gain amp like the 5150.

[@asherplatts6253]

I own a 5150iii, and it can get fizzy and it cost a ridiculous amount, and the effects loop isn't buffered, and you only get your choice of whatever power tubes it is designed for. The egnater is definitely a little congested sounding by comparison. But price wise? Egnater wins.

[@CVK85atl]

Would love to see your take on a MLC subzero amp

[@morpheusdokis175]

i love this amp i wish i could find one

[@morpheusdokis175]

was this one yours? if you know of anyone looking to get rid of one i would be super interested

[@JoeGuitar]

@@morpheusdokis175 as of May 21st.. 2022 .... Denver Colorado Craigslist --- $500 !!

[@benpotter4905]

I don't really care for how this amp lacks clarity and only sounds nasally. It might work for someone wanting an amp that sounds aggressive. But for me, an aggressive sound is required with clarity and a sound that sounds more balanced to my ears.

[@tobaccosun]

Eq in loop makes difference. Also used an Airis effects nebula advanced OD and that allowed to knock out some crap frequencies and bring in frequencies needed after preamp section. Also changing a few values in the preamp will bring more clarity and make gain more useable. Jens Kruse also has some mods that help the vengeance, but the price point isn’t worth it for an inexpensive amp that can be Beat by spending a little bit more in another amp. Worth it for $500, yes. $800 or more, no.

[@gregmerritt9366]

It sounds like the mid boost removed bass and treble, as opposed to adding mids.

[@Demonik44]

Did you got your hand on a Ampeg VH140C ?

[@johnrice5707]

Thanks for the demo dude. Was interested in this amp but couldn't find anything really on it. Not for me either. You ever demo a Rivera knuckhead?

[@belligerentamateur]

You got it! I always wanted to find a decent demo of this amp before I bought it, but could never find one. Hope thios helps!

[@XRated129]

Would you say you can fix the eq negatives with a 10 or 7 band eq pedal? I am looking at this amp right now.

[@SW-mu5vm]

I would love a blind shoot out with the Vengeance and other similar-ish heads. I doubt your opinions would hold up.

[@Bob-tp3nx]

Odd that listening through my Presonus interface and my JBL 305's, this demo/review I am not hearing any of the negative stuff Kyle hears in the room. Tried my AKG headphones and still sounds pretty good to me. I guess it records better than it sounds live? Matter of fact though, this video has convinced to buy one.

[@travissimpson7955]

In my opinion this amp is amazing but I bought it and the matched cab for $350 from the original owner of the School of Rock I work at so the low price is probably effecting my opinion. Also I'm not really much of a metal player myself, I just use the clean channel with the gain knob and switch all the way up and it gives me the best mid gain tone I've ever gotten out of my single coil guitars. Really dug the honesty in your vid! Kind of backed up my opinion that the high gain channel isn't all that great. I've always used pedals into channel one for metal tones when I've needed them.

[@johnwatkins7212]

Broo that is sooo weird I just started watching your channel the other day and I was planning on buying this exact head of you Got it off Facebook marketplace east coast, it's a small world man that's weird, I really want one though

[@MegicShiba]

After seeing all the new and modern amps out there, I've decided to get a 5 knob Traynor ST25 from 1976 cause I need a break

[@danomnihility2453]

Had it. Traded it with a quickness for a mesa mini rectifier. Clean channel on it was great but the gain channel just sounded dark with a weird fuzziness. Tried it with various overdrives and came to the conclusion- its just not a metal amp. Btw i couldn't get it to sound nowhere near as good as you got it. Must be those Fishman fluence pickups.

[@mustangguy3706]

I don't know what the difference is between the vengeance and Armageddon but the Armageddon with a krank 4x12 is brutal af...... Wonder what the vengeance sounds like with its matching cab🤔

[@Buryitall22]

Lol I just ordered another Armeggedon after having to sell mine a couple years ago. I have a Krank Krankenstein with two Texas heats and two swamp thangs in an x pattern. Is that the cab you have? I'm hopeful it'll sound good through my cab. I used to have the actual armageddon 412 so we'll see how my cab sounds with this head. My band is going to be stoked when they see that head again lol.

[@mustangguy3706]

I dont have one it was a band i seen and that's what he was using.

[@Buryitall22]

@@mustangguy3706 oh ok, i got ya. I'm sure I'll make my setup sound brutal. 🤘

[@Yellowcard7572]

That moment where he said Satuation HAHAHAHA I died a little 😂😂😂

[@thegodslayer8545]

I'm glad I bought an Engl fireball 100 instead of this amp. Cause I was seriously considering it for a minute.

[@belligerentamateur]

You made the right choice, for sure

[@thegodslayer8545]

@@belligerentamateur oh yeah I'm loving the fireball, I just got a 4 button after market footswitch. It opens up the amps features.

[@ricdale7813]

I had one of these. Traded a Super Sonic 1x12 60 watt for it. I liked it too a degree but in the end it sounded like a Randall SS Warhead too me. Maybe thats what they were going for but it had a missing dynamic other Egnater Amps did in fact have.

[@davidemmons4670]

The save guy drained Amos for Randall

[@SpawntheFuries]

I've owned this amp since about 2014 or so, and while I too will go to my 6505 first, I still quite like this amp. Fair play that you don't, no need to justify your preferences, but some of those tones you were dialing in were sick, usually I think the tones you get are sick. So I'm seriously wondering what you're hearing that I'm not

[@DaltonPeters1]

Thats funny, I had a Bruce Egnater modded JCM 800 that was really cool and had a cool feature set but it was also super nasally and kinda round

[@PhucketThugLife]

oh shit, you were playing Harms Way!!!!

[@martinhensley2377]

You are trying to match or comparing it to a Peavey 6505 but it not. You can't dial it in like a 6505 or a rec.

[@ragingskeptic9753]

To me, this head doesn't sound awful.

[@noctisnoctua48]

I had one a few months ago and instantly sold it. Just like you I wanted to like it but I was surprised by how much I didn't. I have owned quite a few amps and this one stood out to me as sounding the most like a toy. It sounded like a cheap knockoff of a good amp even though it kind of has its own thing. Honestly, in your video it doesn't sound all that bad but in the room it just feels off. I respect Egnater as a brand and I hope they try something different in the high gain market.

[@Goodgraciousohmy]

How do you think this compares to the B-52 AT100 designed by Egnater

[@belligerentamateur]

I actually think that is a decent amp, especially for what they sell for used. Reliability is very poor, unfortunately.

[@tubo628]

Nice! I'm still waiting for the second part of the Mesa shootout between Dual and Badlander. Hopefully you can try some el34 tubes in the Dual. Would that bring it closer to Badlander tone?

[@belligerentamateur]

Honestly, no. Power tubes won't change the inherent voicing of the amp. The Badlander overall is just a much tighter, faster reacting amp with a smaller low end, and power tubes won't make up the difference in either. They will make very little difference.

[@benpotter4905]

Honestly man, with a really good boost you can get somewhat close with a Dual or Triple Rectifier. But out of the box the Badlander is the amp if you mainly are looking for tightness, aggression and precision out of the Rectifier series amps.

[@tubo628]

I've heard "them" say that the dedicated tube type switch in the duals makes a much bigger difference in the recs than other amps, but I guess that's gonna need a little debunking. Counting on you, Kyle! 👍👍👍

[@jriff79guitar]

I've got an Armageddon on the way, only one I have seen on the market in a while, so I jumped on it. Gonna try and pair it with a Vengeance 4x12 cabinet, can't find an Armageddon cab at the moment. I bet you have a bunch of people asking you to review the Armageddon too. The Armageddon has that on-board ISP noise decimator that is pretty convenient, hoping I don't need my noise gate.

[@they_arent_human]

I dig my arma. I think it works best with the arma 412's.

[@jriff79guitar]

@@they_arent_human this Vengeance cab is doing just fine with the Armageddon. Little less wattage than the matching cab, but it sounds good.

[@bigman12583]

Honestly it doesn't sound that bad but i really appreciate an great review

[@EasyHeat]

Not sure why, but that amp is currently giving me a "my dad totally owns a dealership" vibe? Ha! Just pulling you leg man. Haha!

[@massttrshrdrharmonicminor2002]

I like it Idky reminds me of Naysayer Tone

[@todds.8866]

I play this with my marshall 4x12 1960av and an eq. I honestly prefer the vengeance over my 6505mh. At the end of the day tone comes from the balls and some amps just don't do it for some guys orifices.

[@machine-madedog5059]

Hmm, the fundamental tone is pretty good, but the EQ voicing? Something's off. This is one those amps where I *couldn't* play it without my MXR 10-band engaged constantly.

[@jakedibiase7404]

Maybe you didn’t like it in the room, but I thought this amp sounded great in your video pretty much throughout the whole video. Seems like it records well.

[@belligerentamateur]

I honestly agree with you! sounded much better under a mic than in the room

[@pwrmac7600]

why such low resolution on this vid?

[@LucifdeLuther]

Had the same question :)

[@belligerentamateur]

Good question, I have no idea what happened there.

[@southerncross936]

I picked this amp up in a trade...its a good amp...the clean channel is great.takes pedals well....I push the gain channel with the gain on 3..with a metal zone..adjust eq..and boom its a great metal amp...mine has 6l6's...but im probably gonna swap em out for el34..or a kt88...im running mine through a Mesa 212 with English v30's...everyone is entitled to taste...to me a good working amp.it has a unique gain stage...compared to a 6505+ or a diavlo...it doesn't hang in their league...I dig the vengeance tho..👍

[@alexandertorrente198]

Not a fan of how the gain is structured, but I actually kind of like this amp. Just from listening to this, I can already tell that there is diode clipping of some sort in the circuit, which is fine, the JCM 900 had diode clipping, but you get that annoying harshness from doing this, same with the mud, at least from my experience.

[@belligerentamateur]

It feels way crunchier to me, and has no definition.

[@DeathMetalDevin]

Man I felt the same way about this amp. Just played it at a store and I wanted to like it too. I couldn't pull the trigger and grabbing it

[@cmd_f5]

I can see why you don't like this one. I think it sounds pretty damn cool but that mid is a little persistent. Glad we have people like you out there not afraid to say their honest thoughts on a piece of gear. After hearing a true demo of this (there's just not enough Armageddon and Vengeance demos out there), I can say I'm glad I never got one of these. I could use it sure, but only after tweaking the hell out of it. Cheers man

[@belligerentamateur]

EQ in the loop might help but that won't fix the lack of clarity.

[@x-STORMXX-x]

This sounds a little bit like a hybrid amp rather then a full tube amp and I have to say even the little Peavey 6505 piranha sounds better even though it only does one sound. My hyper x alpha headset that is being pushed by my Focusrite 2i2 2ed gen at 48000hz and I also just changed my headset to the Audio Technica m20x and it still sounds bad over on my end. It did sound a lot better on my Alesis studio 3 inc studio monitors but, you are right there was no low end what so ever. And my last test I played it though my windows audio out of my normal pc speaker rig that has a sub that does kick pretty good and there was still not a lot of low end. I have to say even my Neural dsp archetype Nolly I like the sound of better and to be honest I'm always fighting that as well. I think I should of went with the SLO. Funny you talk about the Iron heart that is the amp I'm saving up to get right now. I use to own a Peavey XXX but, I got it used and it broke so I had to return it back to the store. We think a capacitor blew. My father owns a Marshall DSL 100 I play on it from time to time but, I think I'm more into them 6l6's tubes as that amp never has the tight sound I'm looking for. Thanks for the video I have to agree though this amp sounds like its not for me ether I heard a lot of amps here on youtube and this one for me was not doing it.

[@alexanderlumberjack]

Please do a review of the laney ironheart!!

[@belligerentamateur]

Coming soon, my man

[@alexanderlumberjack]

@@belligerentamateur thank God.. Maybe you can help me like mine haha

[@belligerentamateur]

@@alexanderlumberjack they have a killer voicing but the power section seems to be the downfall. They seem to thin out considerably with volume

[@xiwiwix]

I heard if you put the amp in the trash, it sounds better, have you tried that?

[@xiwiwix]

Great video, btw, and I really appreciate the way you talk about what youre doing when you move the knobs and what your expecting the amp/gear to do.

[@davethrash7270]

@Kyle… yeah that sounds like doodoo, you should sell me that headshell for my rev c dual rec 🤣

[@TheDeedeeFiles]

Awesome amp man

[@mikeflanders1292]

Hey man! I've got an Egnator vengeance that i bought 2 years ago. It's been sitting unplayed for the last year, cuz it blew up. Well, just stopped working anyhow. I paid $300 for it. Should I bother to get it fixed, or not waste my money on it??

[@belligerentamateur]

Man, that's really up to you. They're worth $500-600 on the used market. These amps are known from Transformer issues, so if that's the case, I;'d say not really worth it,

[@BackintheFall]

Mine blew too. I took it in and got it fixed. There was a capacitor or something that needed to be placed different bc it was touching something in it. Can't remember the full details. That was like a year ago. But once I got it fixed its great!

[@mikeflanders1292]

@@BackintheFall nice to know. Thanks man, I appreciate it!

[@BackintheFall]

@@mikeflanders1292 no problem. The guy said what was wrong with it is a common issue with the wiring inside. Makes it sound weak and really just does it no good. I blew 8 tubes before I took it in. He said bc that piece was touching another it would keep doing it. He said it was on like the side of the board. Off place. But good luck! Hope you get it fixed and fall in love like I did.

[@SoundForgeStudio]

Not every amp is for every one. I own this amp and I get nothing but high praises with the tone i have with it. I dig your honesty but i feel like you have a bad taste in you mouth. i will say this amp does amazing with low tunings, 7 and 8 string guitars. cheers my dude !!

[@elus1ve0ne64]

There are moments in the video where the tone sounded killer. I have unusual taste though. LoL. I’d like to check this amp out honestly !!

[@belligerentamateur]

It sounds better on playback, not as spikey.

[@elus1ve0ne64]

Yea sounds decent in the recording. Idk if the vengeance and armageddon have the same circuitry and overall sound but I still think the egnater armageddon was the best sounding amp I’ve owned so far.

[@rustynales6610]

It has the weird bugera thing

[@Worlds_Worst_Guitarist]

Man, i don't get your negativity. This Amp sounds insane!

[@belligerentamateur]

In the room, it definitely did not sound good to my ears

[@Worlds_Worst_Guitarist]

@@belligerentamateur Ok. Than you did a great recording ;-)

[@nelsonfaro6786]

So weird. I totally prefer the Vengeance to the Tourmaster. I 4 Vengeance heads and 2 Armageddons. Great amps. His head did not sound good though.

[@Alotofambitions]

hey kyle, big fan here man, but im i the only one who thinks that this amp sound like every other blackstar amp out there? lol,

[@zlutz814]

Sounds like a Randall hybrid

[@9-bitradiation161]

You gotta compare this to the EVH Stealth!!

[@belligerentamateur]

She long gone already, haha. Couldn't get rid of it fast enough

[@9-bitradiation161]

@@belligerentamateur Haha fair enough! 🤣 Was curious to see how drastically different they would’ve been in comparison

[@jmaurer006]

Had one. Hated it. Sent it back. LOL Not a fan of Egnater gear. Build "quality" felt cheap.

[@stevemoore6349]

Shit.i kicked it.nice riffin kyle

[@belligerentamateur]

Thanks Steve!

[@idiotburns]

Thats gotta be a hard video to not be negative, youve own it multiple times says alot. Its a very recordable amp

[@larslevinberget9558]

LOL that Precence is what I've always turned down, as that headroom is for clean settings :) I'm a Peavey-man with some Marshalls as well. That Egnater is just smooth as Kitty Hawk, old Boogie amps, some Engl, Hughes&Kettner not muddy at all! What's wrong with your ears? Try some greenbacks, can't go wrong with those !

[@belligerentamateur]

If you've actually played this amp, you'd know what I was talking about. Boogie amps smooth? I question your knowledge of what you're actually talking about. Thanks!

[@Mr.Flower.666]

This amp does not sound good with v30s. try it with g12-t75. You'll discover a different beast.

[@mikewoodmusicproductions1172]

I have one of these guys in my studio as well and ill tell you they fuckin rip hahaha !!

[@lowqualityguitarvideos]

This video not sponsored by Egnater. Ha.

[@malevolentsound]

I mean it doesnt sound bad but theres just nothing special about it

[@4142Wilb]

Hey Kyle, if you want to buy another one I’ll sell you mine. $400

[@javierleon8576]

I haven’t see you liking any amp man …. Sorry but not sorry, is very bad to see people trashing all brands like that, creating clouds to people who really needs guidance.

[@belligerentamateur]

I have almost a thousand videos, most of them are amp playthroughs, I'm very few of them are answered I don't like, so I have no idea what you're talking about. sorry if I don't like an amp that you like, we all have different taste. don't take it personally

[@javierleon8576]

I have seen several videos of you testing amps and you saying “ I don’t like this amp “ I’m sorry that is kind of narrow view from my perspective, I do have 30 years playing guitar man.. professionally. I have test my self all those amps. And I think that is pretty bad to talk like that if brands that not might fit on what are you looking. But trashing them just because “you don’t like them” sorry man. That is Not being objective, I get it… is not what are you looking for… and i think or I find that you can be misleading inexperience players to a place that is not good at all … you have try a bunch of amps including mesa Boogie dual rectifier and say “ I don’t like it “ man cone on.. be responsible with the power that you have. That’s all my point. And I hope that you take this in a constructive way..

[@CTG-kt1xg]

This is honestly the worst amp I've ever played.

[@elfieborimera3178]

I buy one of these Amplifier and break in 2 months total Chinese junk. Do not listen to this guy his a scammer