The Best Egnater Amp For Metal...Isn't A Metal Amp?! | Egnater Tourmaster 4100 Tube Amp

[@americaincmusic]

I have played metal through mine for YEARS. It is unmatchable to this day. Insane clarity with crazy power. Unfortunately, mine has a problem with Overdrive 2 channel I can't seem to fix, but it is not the one I use, so bonus! I actually use the Overdrive 1 for my tones.

[@brentgray77]

I have this amp. It’s insane loud. I love it . Very versatile. It is also very heavy lol. I’ve had no problems out of it and I’ve had it for 5 years.

[@belligerentamateur]

Glad to hear it!

[@brentgray77]

@@belligerentamateur you are right about the saturation . Depending on the tone you are after; an overdrive is a great way to get it out more. Love your vids and how go into each amp honestly; even if it’s an amp you don’t like.

[@onepathforme]

Egnaters can sound good, as exemplified in this video! However, most of their amps (tourmaster, renegade, tweaker) have a lot of features that entail a good deal of PCB and digital parts. If you live in an area where you don't have an authorized Egnater tech or someone who is willing to work on unorthodox designs it can be tough to get them repaired sometimes.

[@belligerentamateur]

I've heard they suffer from reliability issues for sure

[@ryanhinch959]

I saved up for months to buy one when I was 17z Used it on a record and it blew in the first two weeks. Couldn’t fix it, took it to like 5 different repair places nobody could figure it out. It was a paper weight (a very heavy paper weight) for years til I eventually sold it for pennies

[@stallionstudios]

@@belligerentamateur Good to know.

[@young_sachii]

@@belligerentamateurhas to possibly be from improper warming of tubes and not using standby switches to make changes

[@geraldrauch1701]

kyle!!! waz wondering what pick-up are you using in that there guitar???

[@willmims3859]

I have this Egnater TM 4100, as well as a Hughes & Kettner Triamp Mark 3. Throw in the Axe FX III MkII Turbo, FM9 Turbo and Quad Cortex and I have about any tone I want via tube amps or via digital. My Egnater is mint condition and has never broken down on me!

[@jesseyasaitis9036]

I had one of these for years and used it for my live setup. Loved the tones I got from it. Sounded best with the channel outputs all turned down to 20 watts.

[@belligerentamateur]

Interesting!

[@jesseyasaitis9036]

@@belligerentamateur tone is subjective of course.

[@empirelight5477]

Just one question, what pickups are you using? Also, more dadrock please.

[@countzero5150]

The 4100 is an amp that always bums me out. Sounds great, has a ton if great features, but man.. the egnater reliability issues. I tried to buy a vengeance from GC, called them and they said it shouldn't have been listed since it's broken. Eventually found a 4100, the seller said the reverb didn't work. So I did a quick search for common reverb issues and there's just a laundry list of issues. Amps blowing multiple transformers, burned resistors, burned boards, inexplicably blowing fuses. I always wanted one but by all accounts I'm buying a time bomb.

[@juliandelrio]

i totally agree with your conclusion! it's a great sounding amp with tons of options but isn't a real modern metal amp. It lacks in tightness and openess in the high frequency. maybe with an overdrive in front of it It could be metal amp as you told. great video as Always. Thanks from Italy 🤟

[@gab_ale]

I remember lots of years back it was either this or a Mark V. I went with the Mark V which I still have.

[@neepathius7]

drop c and prolly any drop tuning seems to be where this thing shines. its already a pretty crunchy amp so it helps with clarity and grit in lower tunings from my ears. and thats basically what u want anyways is more punch/crunch on lower tunings otherwise u get mud

[@jrlee243]

this makes me smile. this amp forced me to buy a noise gate. lol. that was soooo long ago. maybe 2008. that's the last time I heard it. I loved that amp. now I want it back. Thanks!! Lol

[@07Shanks07]

Great video! I love my tourmaster full stack 🤘🏼

[@markl4781]

Yea these are legit. I had a pitbull 100cl and this came pretty close to the same crunch. Just didn’t have the clarity in the high mid like the pitbull. But I would go with this one if I didn’t have the cash for the pitbull. Great channel man 🤙

[@misticformula1485]

What I'm learning from these videos and also on my own is that if you like dad rock just as much as metal, a dad rock amp plus an od pedal is a great option. But if you are strictly a drop tune modern metal head, a more strictly metal amp with or without an od pedal will probably make you the happiest.

[@belligerentamateur]

Makes sense to me!

[@ericv7720]

But there's a lot of "dad-rock" you could call "metal."

[@sexdungeoninteriordesigner5045]

@@ericv7720 like cephalotripsy?

[@ericv7720]

@@sexdungeoninteriordesigner5045Yeah, sure, though they haven't done anything in a while. Also Gorevent, Cerebral Effusion, and Parasitic Ejaculation. Then again, I don't have kids, so I kind of missed out when the debate between "dad rock" and "modern metal" started.

[@OfficialSNMvids]

I remember playing on an Egnater amp at GC maybe 10+ years ago and can't remember what version it was, but was not impressed at all and never played on one again. Having watched you demo this one and I honestly enjoyed some of the tones you were able to pull out! Rock on! \m/

[@ladygrim412]

The tourmaster is completely different from the tweaker series

[@brandonjackson5865]

Hey Kyle how about a Mark IV or V Boogie review. I would think you would like the Mark series amps but I don’t recall you mentioning them or a demo. Yeah they are expensive, but you can probably still get a Mark IV used for high end modded Marshall type amps from boutique builders. Yeah that’s an ugly looking amp but with some knurled or even those same knobs but in black and a black grill cloth or tan basket weave even it might look pretty cool. I’ve always thought Engnater amps look kind of cheap, I don’t know, that one appears to be built good enough.

[@Thundercloud_Jackson]

When I was looking at amps around 2010 it was between this and the Kustom Double Cross. I chose the later it just sounded more unique to me

[@RokDAWG1]

Damn this Egnater sounds rad! I really do dig it. I need a pinch more top end but I think an easy would take care of that. Hey Kyle have you tried an 90’s Fender M80? The first versions (head not combo) are crazy awesome!

[@belligerentamateur]

I haven't but def interested in trying one some day!

[@RokDAWG1]

@@belligerentamateur Until the big lockdown they were really cheap to snag. I actually got one for a friend for $175! If you can grab one at a good price I definitely would do it.

[@metalgear74]

@@RokDAWG1 I agree they are great for the prices they used to be. Had one in the early 90s but traded it for other stuff when I got the OG valvestate vs100.

[@thatguyinaband6341]

never actually heard one of these, thanks for sharing man! I wonder if this is what Gran Hechicero uses to get his unique tones

[@Hamer95USA]

Thanks for posting a review of the Egnater TourMaster 4100 amp head. Would you do an amp review of the Rocktron Vendetta 100 watt tube amp head? That was also designed by Bruce Egnater. I own this amp myself and would be happy to have it reviewed on your KZbin channel.

[@zAvAvAz]

kyle bull rules 🎸

[@mattsmith8515]

PRO TIP: If you own this amp and the footswitch gets froggy, Open it up and cover bottom panel with single layer of duct tape. Youre back!!! Also, Get yourself a handfull of the plastic input jacks... If your in a hardcore band with 3 singers they will step on your cord and break the jacks... Mid scooped Boss GE7 works real well with gain channel #1.

[@mattsmith8515]

@GeraldHuston1000 What did I win?!?!?

[@ryanlee6042]

Right around 12:40 it sounded like you were about to say "give your balls a tug Jonesy".

[@TL-angzarr]

I have a Egnater TOL 100 that I got in 98. It's an amazing metal amp. I don't play it much as it's not so reliable though I will admit that over the years Bruce Egnater has been super helpful with service. That being said every newer Egnater I've tried has been good but never great.

[@michaelgallegos8811]

its kinda funny Kyle alot of questions about pick ups after u mention at video start lol.

[@bramdriessens5942]

What pickup do you have in the bridge though?......

[@gbirdo4718]

hey kyle! have you played any of the Edwards by esp les pauls?

[@heavymetaljesus2630]

Kyle, you need to try the Armageddon which is an upgrade on the Vengeance with his MIDRANGE control (Depth+Level)

[@klascojoe]

I have a 212 combo of this out. It sounds real good when it’s working. It’s the most unreliable amp I’ve ever owned. right now Channel 4 is out and it’s sitting in storage.I had to repair it about five times.

[@christianboddum8783]

I was really interested in this amp. But it has a bad rep for reliability, and having a Marshall 6100 head that never worked right, I got cold feet regarding multi channel/multi features amps. FWIW

[@TheNocturnalEvil]

Try that amp with a standard sized 4x12" loaded with 65-watt Scumback BM75 speakers. They sound great through them.

[@lowqualityguitarvideos]

Pretty ideal in terms of features but I do get cold feet with amps that have too much going on; harder to track down performance issues.

[@belligerentamateur]

Totally get that

[@aaronwest1259]

I have one as well. Can definitely get some killer sounds. They are seemingly fragile though. A nightmare to work on as well. I love Eganater though since he is a local brand,(Detroit), with a great reputation. All of his hand wired U.S. stuff is definitely top notch. Quality components throughout. Tone for days. 😊

[@belligerentamateur]

I've heard many reliability issues with Egnater for sure

[@JasonMcGuffin]

I have this amp. (The Combo) it's literally the most versatile amp in my fleet

[@JonJourdan]

great demo! sounds dope!

[@scottjerard1293]

You should do a pick up shootout The pick up rabbit hole is almost as deep as the amp cab rabbit holes

[@belligerentamateur]

I would love to, and will at some point, just a lot of work

[@Slavetskiy]

Is anyone know, where i can find principal theme of amp and foot switch? Cause i got this beast without FC... Thanks

[@Dustinchugs]

GRIP IT N RIP IT!!! Dude I fucking lost it 😂 sick tones

[@stallionstudios]

Another great vid man!

[@draper858]

Cool sounds, but the amp didn’t cut through the mix in my opinion. That was right before I got my first and best of 5 splawns I’ve owned

[@SignificantTest]

Any amp is a metal amp if it can do the chunka chunkas and the widdley widdleys!

[@belligerentamateur]

Truth

[@Cmnore]

DEFINITELY not a good match with V30's. I'd LOVE to hear this through some G12T-75's or some Elite 80's(which were in the Tourmaster cab lineup). Love your vids but maybe you can change some voicing with different cabs? Up the irons!

[@MotoRiff77]

I had a renegade sounded good had to sell it though the owner that had it before me was a smoker could not get that smell out

[@belligerentamateur]

I have one of those right now! going to demo it soon!

[@josephbutler148]

Owned all from that series i thought it was the worst the rebel and renegade were more raw and seemed to have more fatness depth and push. Maybe there was something wrong with my tourmaster. Check out the egnater tweaker 40 and 88 too \m/

[@phantomflame0658]

I agree the Renegade is a monstrous amp. Mine is the combo with a g12m-65 creamback and the tone is full and huge, but it needs a boost pedal (like mxr sugar drive) for extra push. It doesn't need tightness just more gain. I have the presence control at almost max however cause the speaker I have is quite dark. It's unique and sounds great for basically every genre. You can play Crowbar on it and then RHCP after

[@Margilio5150]

Nice toneZ 🤘🏽

[@belligerentamateur]

Thanks!

[@samizdat113]

I know it's expensive but would really like to see you demo the Blackstar St. James

[@belligerentamateur]

I will!

[@samizdat113]

@@belligerentamateur For me!?!? That was easy. Wanna help me move from Georgia to Maine next summer?

[@andrewdykes4589]

The st james is a very bland overall sounding amp. Played one in a store not impressed. Honestly think the blackstar ht series can sound better with a boost

[@Studio13Official]

Hey man, I'm a new subscriber of yours, and I've heard in your other videos that you take special requests for demos, so can I give a request?

[@lukebroste1182]

Egnaters are awesome.

[@ericv7720]

There's no such thing as a "metal" vs. "non-metal" amp -- just amps with a number of gain stages that you can use for metal (most "metal" amps are just black-panel Fenders with said extra stages). Then you add on pedals to get you the sound you need if you can't get it straight out of the amp. Am I missing something here?

[@belligerentamateur]

yep

[@Yohahn]

If you still are on your backlog of recorded videos.. how many videos did you actually record? Feels like you must have spent 2 weeks just recording videos 24/7..

[@samizdat113]

Have you considered doing more guitar reviews?

[@belligerentamateur]

I have actuallty! Got some coming down the pipe

[@samizdat113]

@@belligerentamateur Sweet!

[@marvinmartin3438]

Dude, I love this amp. Is it true bypass? Is it legal in most countries? Asking for a friend

[@belligerentamateur]

it's illegal to own, stare at, or think about in the eastern hemisphere.

[@oldguyjammin9732]

These days Egnaters are as good or better than anything. I’ve been inside a few and they are really well built, the days of bad XFormers are over. However... while their tone is “good” it is “unique” enough that I prefer Engl or Marshall overall. They’re solid though!!

[@ThunderFalcon333]

I almost bought this amp when it came out but reliability problems made me pass on it. But it is a hell of an amp.

[@BathBombTheRussians]

I went to test one out as a backup head when they came out and the employee took it out of the box to set on a cab and the handle broke off 😂

[@ThunderFalcon333]

@@BathBombTheRussians lol a warning sign

[@yourguitarist]

what pick up do you have in that guitar? LOL! sorry... couldn't resist

[@ivanthiel6219]

I subscribed because you remind me of Matt Damon.

[@mazklassa9338]

this sounds killer!

[@CameronForrester]

I think she looks good!

[@TheOtherJohnBrowne]

Y ou're in the right place M C A!

[@smeemusic]

Well I mean, it didn't sound horrible. If someone showed up to record with this amp and insisted on using it, I could still make some magic happen.

[@belligerentamateur]

Right

[@creepwave6108]

Sounds nastier with a hot mod v2 H+ standard wire in v4.

[@belligerentamateur]

Oh damn! I didn't know the Hot Mod works in any of the Egnater Amps!

[@creepwave6108]

@belligerentamateur it's a very specific old hot mod that I used. David at legendary tones would probably be able to cross reference it with newer versions.

[@MysterySchool33]

🙂

[@dropdisco488]

Most Egnaters I’ve played are muddy…..but great amps!!!

[@belligerentamateur]

Def not the most clear for sure

[@phantomflame0658]

You gotta crank the presence on these! They're really not muddy. And some amp's have a tight/deep control to basically cut the lows coming in the front

[@presssniff6250]

AUH , you need to Demo a Diamond Amplification.. let's see that and every band that is using them must be doing something right your all trying to sound like them. 😁

[@belligerentamateur]

I've demo'd two of them. They don't sound good, and I don't know of any bands that use them other than FFDP, who I am definitely not remotely interested in sounding like

[@1thess523]

Egnaters are pretty expensive at least all the ones I've come across with the exception of their little 20w one channel.

[@riffrigerator666]

Egnater were more in the affordable to midprice sector, at least for the features, but i didn't like any, so i'm good. There are better alternatives out there imo. ✌🏼

[@belligerentamateur]

Honestly they are dirt cheap on the used market these days. I got this one for $450

[@1thess523]

@@belligerentamateur they aren't dirt cheap here in San Antonio Texas 😢. Everyone is asking over $700 for the bigger one's

[@brandonjackson5865]

@@belligerentamateur wow that’s a steal for what seems like a pretty versatile amp.

[@KaldDodeGitarist]

A buddy of mine has one. It always sounded AMAZING when he played it. When I played it, I fucking hated it. I never understood why it was like that

[@belligerentamateur]

That's how rectifiers were for me for YEARS

[@LeDechaine]

Title says "torumaster" by the way. #tofumaster Great video!

[@belligerentamateur]

wow how did I not catch that until now?!

[@TheDeedeeFiles]

Nice 👍

[@belligerentamateur]

Thanks!

[@chrisshade5915]

Really don’t know much about these amps and I heard one years back and sounded like shit. I have to say this amp sounds really good.

[@Paul_Lenard_Ewing]

It is overkill. Happy with my Plexi and pedals.

[@belligerentamateur]

That level of simplicity may be fine for folks like you and I, but some people require more. Certainly not overkill for some

[@metalfather8139]

from what i keep hearing from you.....its the amp that could have been good

[@RyRyTheBassGuy]

Pretty meh, really. Maybe it would sound cooler through a Marshall cab?

[@metalvisionsongcontest7055]

Ugly? That’s retro! 😁

[@lukeduke6693]

That's definitely the least ugly amp in that room.

[@frankdeal7260]

Which one would you prefer, The tour master or renegade?