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[@RandalThor19]

Thanks for all the support!! Get 20% OFF @manscaped + Free Shipping with promo code XB2 at MANSCAPED.com Timestamps Getting ready to go live 0:00 Intro and Housekeeping 8:44 Fallout hype 41:04 Mike Ybarra tweets 49:15 Blizzard and net ease new deal 59:40 Another studio closure 1:06:00 Rand's fallout TV series thoughts 1:12:10 Grubb: EA cancels dead space 2 Remake 1:33:40 FF7 Rebirth sales data 1:45:20 Star wars outlaws 1:48:55 Warhorse devs new game and Ori 3? 1:59:57 343i prior management's failings 2:08:08 Jez's article on Xbox's forward compatibility 2:13:10 Patreon Questions and Closing 2:53:07

[@chambo4645]

Jez talks about the steam deck as if it has sold as much as the switch

[@RandomGuyNB]

Timestamps Getting ready to go live 0:00 Intro and Housekeeping 8:44 Fallout hype 41:04 Mike Ybarra tweets 49:15 Blizzard and net ease new deal 59:40 Another studio closure 1:06:00 Rand's fallout TV series thoughts 1:12:10 Grubb: EA cancels dead space 2 Remake 1:33:40 FF7 Rebirth sales data 1:45:20 Star wars outlaws 1:48:55 Warhorse devs new game and Ori 3? 1:59:57 343i prior management's failings 2:08:08 Jez's article on Xbox's forward compatibility 2:13:10 Patreon Questions and Closing 2:53:07

[@TorsionTestis]

Thanks

[@balaam_7087]

Why aren’t these implemented properly by the content creators?

[@makeway1118]

@@balaam_7087because neither one of the Xbox Two content creators are also proper timestamp creators

[@RandomGuyNB]

@@balaam_7087doesn’t really matter as I do them every week. Let Rand and Jez take care of the podcast and I’ll take care of the timestamps. Enjoy the rest of your week

[@bryanroy3239]

This idea of tipping publishers for games is stupid. I'm sorry...if you really like the game a lot, maybe buy it for a friend or something.

[@tji7046]

Why stupid if it's an option? If I want to tip Remedy for making Alan Wake 2 especially with the type of game it is..why is that stupid?

[@CheeseWorks-vj4yi]

WTF are Jez and Rand talking about tipping studios? If you want, just purchase a second copy of the game and give it away or “burn” the code.

[@tji7046]

Because buying the game again takes 30 percent of the cut. What's wrong with tipping the company you like directly? Sure there might be a cut but it should be faar lower, that's the way it should work.

[@SanGerardino]

They’re losing their minds! 😂

[@johnblue341]

​@@tji7046becosue it sets a bad precedent in gaming people are not om worh MTX but are ok tipping a giant publisher more money which devs would never see lol ok.

[@Enigmalake]

Lucky I can afford a game or that it be in my budget and then these guys wanna hand over money to devs like they are eating ramen in a cold studio 😆

[@epsipsychpt]

​@@tji7046patreon kickstarter indiegogo, ONLYfans, also gets a Share yet people still publicize their projects through those plataforms.

[@BlindRiott]

Rand can’t use the mute button, the food packaging crinkles were at ten, he’s never going to be able to set up a camera 😂, Jez please tell him about the mute button let’s start there…

[@achtungjamie]

Jez can spin anything. Steam on the console is terrible idea.

[@ethanradd]

It's always funny how desperate Jez is to paint MS in the most positive light possible, I don't understand it, Rand is a fanboy too but at least he's more open to pointing out MS' stupid ideas.

[@jimmythegamer2231]

​@@ethanradd lmao it's hilarious to see seething Sony fanboys like you watch Xbox podcasts, you really have no life

[@ethanradd]

@@jimmythegamer2231 I'm an Xbox fan who doesn't like this leadership that has been failing for over a decade.

[@markgriffiths9365]

Whys it a bad idea.. I'm a poor gamers and definitely can't afford a gaming PC so it's a great idea

[@Starfield-Guy]

How is it a bad idea? Giving us more options is bad idea is it? 😂

Jez says Sonys strategy isn’t working but Xbox’s is surely worse. Inflation is the main thing hurting PS

[@nex571]

I am not sure that Xbox has a strategy. Of course, with all the money they put in gaming they make better revenue. That doesn't mean the strategy works. It doesn't even mean that there is a strategy behind "I buy a business who make money, I will keep it as is, then I will make money too". Sony's strategy works fine, except on first party games, too expensive to be profitable.

@@nex571 that’s not really true tho, everybody highlights Spider-Man 2’s budget and obviously that got away from them, but nobody seems to mention the first Spider-Man game where documents showed they made 860m net on a 160m budget game or ghost of thushima which was made for 60m. They are making profit on games but inflation is making it harder to control costs, that is the area Sony has a problem

[@nex571]

I am not saying that none of their games are profitable of course. But I think that multiple remakes/remasters of TLOU is a perfect example of the limits of the strategy. Sony knows that the market is not big enough to make this kind of game profitable. But they have a solution: if you cannot sell the game to enough people to be profitable, you can sell the same game to the same people over and over again. But with TLOU it becomes problematic, and I am afraid it will get worse with the inflation you have noticed.

[@jimmythegamer2231]

"Our pillars already outdated and leagues behind the competition, Microsoft." Those were Sony's own words after the closure of the ABK deal, not mine. Even Sony themselves disagrees with you. Microsoft's strategy is the only commercially viable strategy in the long-term, hence why Sony keeps following Microsoft.

@@jimmythegamer2231 what MS strategy are you referring to, the only thing that is working for them is the strategy of buying big multiplayer games like Minecraft, COD ect and folding those numbers into their business. They can only do that because they are a trillion dollar company, Sony can’t make those moves. Everything on the traditional side from Xbox is struggling hardware, software, services all aren’t really moving the needle much

[@BigNightLikeDog]

PC is prohibitively expensive for most people and less user-friendly than a console - you’re not wrong though, buying a beefy PC takes care of all your gaming needs (minus Nintendo).

[@barcster2003]

PC will get you alot of things but theres still stuff that misses PC its just that most multiplat games don't anymore.

[@spectrexr1]

I figured it out the Xbox console will be a 3rd party box lol. And people don't want Xbox to copy Sony strategy, they just want Xbox to make good games like Sony games. And Xbox always report all the revenue....whats the profit margins ? If the business so we'll why is Xbox games on PlayStation. Seem strange

[@baharv4575]

Xbox is giving mediocre games and Online games like Elderscrolls online to PlayStation to get more revenue for the Bangers like Hell blade and other games that are only on Xbox. PlayStation got mlb on Xbox lmao .

[@spectrexr1]

@@baharv4575 MLB got MLB on Xbox stop it lol

[@joesweetland]

Solar eclipse is the most beautiful thing I’ve EVER seen. Worth catching if you can. No joke

[@chadtheo1551]

I hate to say it but could Rand have the courtesy and the patience to not eat and podcast at the same time? It's really annoying listening to someone talk while they chew. Do you really have to eat while you podcast, really? Couldn't grab something before or wait after? Really?

[@bbajr]

F2P games is more of a competition to gamepass than $70 games.

[@chosenreaper6224]

So it’s now about selling the game and not the amount of players who “played” a game. So we can finally admit that the number of players that they always announce does not mean anything. I look forward to Xbox actually stating how many copies a game has sold now that it is important to them according to Jez.

[@barcster2003]

They hide the numbers because they are likely terrible. Third place box + gamepass means sales are terrible.

[@jimmythegamer2231]

Lmao keep crying about Xbox Sony shill

[@opalauge468]

Avatar 2 is THE movie about people not listening to each other. If anyone would've listened...just once, the movie would've been over in 20 mins. The whole plot is circling around people doing the opposite of what they were told. It drove me almost crazy.😆

[@serialkiller77]

Why is Rand stretching out this notion of getting a camera and being on camera. He literally lied to everyone to boost up his subscriber amount and doesn’t bother to deliver what he promised. Then he talks about not trying to hype it up. Bro the longer you go on like this the more you are hyping it up 🙄

[@professorsolo6484]

He’s insecure. It’s something he’ll decide when he’s ready to go on cam when he feels comfortable enough to do so.

[@Immaustine]

Jez is making the point that Xbox should turn into Pc just like Steam deck. So console war is done we all put our swords down and go home.

[@Tedakin]

I agree 100% with everything Rand said about Ori 3.

[@Jones25ful]

Dead space Definitely wasn’t a cult game back in the day, comparing it and gigantic is wild. Issue with Dead Space is that EA like always doesn’t want to Build a brand, they bring a Franchise back after 20 years and it expect it to sell the same as RE4, a franchise that is multiple entries into a golden era of quality. And when their game doesn’t sell that well they kill it.

[@jonezjonez2099]

F*** EA!!! They won't ever see money from me again!

[@ilducex]

I'm with Rand...the hypothetical strategy Jez is trying to lay out makes no sense if they are going to continue to value Xbox as a console/brand/platform...I don't think Steam will ever be on there, more likely I could maybe see them partnering with Epic to bring Epic Games Store to Xbox in a way that if you buy it there on PC, maybe you get the license to the Xbox version as well and becomes a play anywhere title or something like that with Xbox getting a kickback for it to try to help Epic compete with Steam

[@DyeHard79]

How would I remember this gen if it ended today ...Hogwarts and Ragnarok on PS5 and Elden Ring and Halo Infinite Multi-player and Starfield on Series X are the games I had the most fun with personally played a lot of damn games this gen too just way too many lol

[@Kylethejobber]

On your next episode, could you talk about how the ps5 is out selling the xbox series 2 to 1 I'm curious what your opinion is about that

[@gray6935]

In MY GOODS BOOKS is the opposite to my shit list maybe ?

[@duffman85]

what is the game being played in the video?

[@s3rv3r3rror8]

Little nightmares i just don't remember if it's part 1 or 2. Cool little game tho.

[@Mightyguybrush2]

Does anyone else notice that when Jez and Rand have a disagreement, Jez goes into grumpy mode and Rand has to go mega up beat and drag him through to the end of the podcast?

[@TheSwishPOP]

I was listening to the show, and how Rand and Jez were discussing the "next gen xbox" which would be open to having many launchers installed (Steam / Epic / etc), and Rand was wondering how Microsoft or Steam make money. What if... and this is a big what if. Jez or Rand mentioned Microsoft would have to get the blessing of the big Companies (EA, Ubisoft, etc), they managed to cut a deal with them. To ensure people buy the Xbox version and not just the PC version, they swing a deal where if on the Next Gen Xbox, you buy the Xbox version, you get a copy of the PC version as well included, however, if you buy the PC version on your Xbox, you only get that version. This would be an incentive for people to still buy the Xbox versions. Something I just thought up.

[@j0ker51000]

The fact that Outlaws is a Star Wars game means they're gonna go hard on mtx etc and try to milk it as much as possible. I'm staying clear of it until it's $10 in a year or so like all Ubi games

[@blessedbow720]

when it comes to weekly vs all at once the anime industry is a perfect example of doing weekly and create discussions and you know how they do that? they put a comment section right under the episode... whether you are going to one of the myriad of pirate sites or go to an official one like crunchyroll (or i guess THE official one now) we have collectively found out "hey comment sections are great" and that my friends it the biggest missteps done by most streaming services wtf would you randomly talk about it on your social media page seen my people who haven't seen the episode then forgotten vs a dedicated space that can harbor discussions per episode years after release

[@jonezjonez2099]

What book series is Rand talking about?

[@NothingButTime_]

God eater I believe

[@jonezjonez2099]

​@@NothingButTime_ Thank you!

[@TheEagle247]

Jez lays out all the facts clearly of the future moving forward Rand keeps being stuck in the old ways of being against change/progress lol It will all work out great

[@GRAMMAN112]

Wow, this was a great episode guys. Keep up the good work!

[@vchair23]

Rand kills me with the binge discussion. There wasn't anything close TV wise to GoT on Twitter, like no other TV discussion while it was on was within two tiers. And with the preloaded gaming fan base, think it'd be pretty amazing week to week

[@toetag4]

Rand has always been a kill joy

[@DyeHard79]

I remember the "it feels like they're giving up in consoles" argument when Sony and Microsoft moved over to X86 CPUs people thought it would mean the ecosystem would somehow go away

[@jqydon]

Net ease in the past few years opened up ten or so new AAA studios which is likely why MS signed the deal to get Netease games.

[@spectrexr1]

So the Phil saying the future of Xbox is a steam box . Cause who buying from ms store if steam on Xbox .

[@Amearie]

Tipping doesn't incentivise service. they do this in the US and their service isn't any better than countries that dont tip. Its just going to create a culture of developers feeling entitled to get tips, just like restaurants.

[@jubei20111]

Maybe Rand should only watch MS shows once ever 10 years so he can binge them all at once.

[@NuclearAbyss]

I think its funny that when people talk about what xbox is wanting to do, they describe the steam box. But they act like it could work and the steam box didn't totally fail. Xbox would literally be turning xbox players into PC player/Steam, making its console niche and a glorified steam box. One thing that xbox has failed to realize, is that they dont choose if they are still a console manufacturer, the market/players decide. Xbox is gambling their unique position for short term profit. something that ouya, stadia, epic, luna etcc failed or are having a hard time getting support. But lets see how this plays out for them.

[@thegenuinenintendogeek5507]

Ordered a Starfield controller from GameStop. I’m at work right now and I’m kinda scared to get home and open the package 📦 Never know with them 🤷🏻‍♂️

[@EddiXP]

How'd it go? Was it sanded down?

[@thegenuinenintendogeek5507]

@@EddiXP I can honestly say that it was in pretty good shape 👍🏻

[@EddiXP]

@@thegenuinenintendogeek5507 hell yeah man. I don't know what their deal is with that. It's always hit or miss.

[@kthebarbarian8223]

Jez continues to reach with these hypothetical scenarios that would make a Steam Box version of Xbox viable. You aren't bringing in NEW customers or growing "the business" by creating a Steam Box competitor. You're simply reaching for more revenue as you see the console side of your business diminishing, & the sub service side stagnating. If they aren't selling games through their ecosystem & are no longer getting subs because people are buying from STEAM and expecting free online. Then how does this bring more customers to the ecosystem? In what way would MS be getting a kickback from STEAM & EPIC? 🤔 All those titles aren't Xbox games, nor do Xbox titles sell significantly on those platforms. How would MS make money from all those 3rd party & Sony 1st party titles on STEAM?... They simply wouldn't. Why would anyone choose the Xbox/ MS store over STEAM? 🤔 Jez's assertions aren't supported by our current reality or gamers habits. It also requires a complete reworking of STEAM & EGS's policies to work.

[@sethgarfinkel]

Unless access to external stores Is a feature of Game Pass

[@kthebarbarian8223]

@@sethgarfinkel There would have to be some legal issues with that, right? 🤔 Charging to access 3rd party storefronts would get so much backlash that MS's head would spin. I could still remember the issues they had when they forced people to get LIVE in order to access KZbin and Netflix

[@sethgarfinkel]

@@kthebarbarian8223 totally agree. I was only suggesting that would be a way to make money on it. Actually I’d be more worried that this forward compatibility is being built in order to be able to dump the console and move the Xbox environment to Windows. That would really piss off regulators who suggested they could make such a move and control may more screens. I just want my game pass and my console. However that works out. I work with computers for a living and don’t want to game on one too. Of course if the hypervisor was licensable to third parties… oh boy would the CMA and FtC blow a fit

[@kthebarbarian8223]

@@sethgarfinkel It would certainly change the landscape and MS's approach for sure. There are so many unknowns and emergent technologies going into the next generation & honestly that's making it more interesting compared to this one. Now the major question is, when does MS pull the trigger.

[@yanmuldoon7583]

Are we really getting hyped for Fallout or any Bethesda title again. I'll live happy never seeing Todds smug little face, or be berated once more by that hack writer Emil.

[@eugeniabergeron8987]

I 100% disagree with both of you guys. I think you guys are crazy when you guys say that you don't think that Avatar is a good movie. I haven't seen the second one. I have no desire. Seeing the second one, it does not look good to me. But the first one I thought was the best movie when it came out at that time. As far as Fallout goes on the other hand, and everything else. I do agree with that. Of the things that you guys pretty much said on those things. Anyway, good show.

[@toetag4]

It was definitely Mike Ybarra , heard he was just like Bobby

[@segbembamurray2044]

Rather than Xbox make the showcase a one-day 2hr thing, why don't they just stretch it out to a two or 3-day event?

[@TavishHill]

If a PC player wants to upgrade without spending thousands of dollars, an NextBox would look mighty compelling at a fraction of the price and with a much better user experience on offer. I doubt such users would necessarily buy all their stuff there thru the Steam option simply bc the Xbox version will have tie ins to that box and its ecosystem that are front and center in the user's face. Especially when many of these major games are marketed all over the dashboard as being in Game Pass. Even if only 10% of these PC users on the NextBox buy games via the Xbox store, that is that many more players than Xbox would get otherwise using their store. Existing Xbox console users will mostly migrate to the NextBox as is. Any that were tempted to jump to PC will likely get caught by this new box instead. Sames goes for PSX gamers looking to move to PC.

[@tinyentropy]

I won‘t buy in into this „new Xbox“. 👎

[@Sirriffsalot]

03:07:16 can AI just upscale and remaster, old games. Lol I think he answered it as I was typing this.

[@hitman15857]

The convenience is the key to putting everything in 1 place he'll theirs lots of people like me out their I want to control everything in my house with my phone because it's convenient I don't have to bother using switches and or anything like that I pay for many different streaming services on my phone cause convenient to just have to look and find what I wanna watch if I can't find it chances are I'll find it on Amazon prime video or buy it and watch it through prime video I wanna control my vehicles with my phone cause it convenient to do so and no I'm not lazy as I'm involved in multiple emergency service organizations and put alot of time into those ok top of holding a full time job and he'll some of that wr can already do on xbox I've used gforce now many times in my xbox just because it was convenient to play some of my steam games on before my steam deck you'd be surprised how big of an impact convenience can have on something

[@dageekynerd2898]

Gotta love dudes who get screeners early saying week to week better, don't watch early then lol.

[@TheEagle247]

Rand is such a troll about his binge model lol He’s also very wrong! Week to week is much better

[@chosenreaper6224]

Jez really contradicts himself a lot. Brings up Sony profit margins and than goes to say how Xbox has their highest REVENUE which doesn’t matter right compared to PROFIT MARGINS which Xbox compared to the other companies is not transparent.

[@spectrexr1]

Lmao exactly make u wonder why Xbox doesn't show profit 😐

[@jimmythegamer2231]

​@@spectrexr1 Lmao you keep that same energy for Nintendo? Why don't they show profit margins as well?

[@spectrexr1]

@@jimmythegamer2231 😂 Nintendo...they games sell 45 million, and look at they games they cost 50 bucks and a pack of jolly rangers to make 😂😂 . . It's well know they profits are fine .no one selling 35 million copies of exclusive that cost 30 dollars to make and sell them at full price and they don't go down in price. Come on brah . That why Nintendo never in these conversations. Cause only them can do what they do

[@vullord666]

​@@spectrexr1the fact that no one calls Nintendo out on their pricing and how anti consumer they are is insane. But yeah they have smaller overall revenue than Sony and like only a little bit more than Microsoft (in gaming), but def have the best margins

[@vullord666]

To be fair Microsoft isn't transparent about ANYTHING. Their Financials and quarterly reports only share the bare minimum. And giving them the benefit of the doubt they are a stupid big company. The size of their core businesses and number of subsidiaries is wild and then everything is reported under one consolidated entity. Even in just gaming originally everything was scattered (like it's literally hurt last year we got Age of Empires on console) and post ABK even after layoffs they are still the biggest gaming corporation by number of employees. And we don't see specifics for any of their businesses including Azure which is carrying MS right now. I don't think any company shares that much in specifics. AFAIK we only know Sony's due to leaks from insomniac (the whole incident). Nintendo probably has the best but still doesn't report there's. The fact that Xbox doesn't report them isn't itself an indicator their's are terrible no more than we think Nintendo is about to go under. Microsoft has also invested a lot in gaming (like more than any other tech business now) and they've proven time and time again they wouldn't do so without current success in the market. Google Stadia (and like every other Google and Microsoft product) is proof how risk adverse these trillion dollar companies are. But all that said, if Xbox's margins are shit then what contradiction is there? Jez has always used Sony's margins as a "this strategy isn't working", so if the king of high quality consistent exclusives isn't seeing success with their strategy..., why should xbox follow it?

[@toetag4]

Rand is a killjoy man

[@Ciki92]

CGI is good in fallout tv show, disagree with rand

[@Arzeefy]

Jez get it the idea steam on xbox its very brilliant if this successful or okayish. I don't get it why rand didn't optimistic on steam on xbox. As someones who doesn't have consoles both ps/xbox. If xbox have steam on it, im definitely buying xbox for versatile device.

[@Arzeefy]

Just like Steam Deck, Xbox boot up with xbox ui, if user want play steam games well user have tweak their device. But first they presented Xbox UI in first place.

[@barcster2003]

I don't get why getting steam on Xbox would suddenly fix iI. I think it would cause the problem to be bigger because now people would be buying on steam and not Xbox

[@Arzeefy]

@barcster2003 this method pressure closed ecosystem to become open ecosystem like apple / Playstation on government side.

[@barcster2003]

I think that's way more effective. Want to tip the dev buy it for someone else or get them to buy it.

[@barcster2003]

@Arzeefy the question would be why wouldn't you just skip Microsoft and go straight to Steam? On top of that Steam has no incentive to help Microsoft.

[@bigbox1431]

Holy ****. The first 45 minutes of this podcast is just making excuses for XBox and whining about other outlets. They literally say "XBox should only give places like us access because we'll spin it positively". XBox Two is becoming a joke

[@LeeSouthwell-uh6cp]

I know I'm the outlier but I refuse to watch Fallout until it finishes as an entire show. The way all Hollywood shows go right now puts me right off. Plus the main actresses voice is nails on a chalk board. For example look at how trash Westworld quickly became and GoT

[@I_duo]

I think that customers only benefit from a globally unified ecosystem 🤔.Certainly does with vhs,dvd and blue ray markets….I also think Microsoft as gforce now in its target 😏

[@gamingnation9526]

That’s cute Jez thinks Sony wouldn’t block there games on a Xbox steam box when Sony themselves are selling a console the man is a genius lol

[@Echo__plex]

Are you done for the night? Or do you need a 4th separate comment?

[@ot4kuk1d]

This man listens to a 4 hour Xbox podcast to come talk ish in the comments. I can't imagine a more shallow existence.

[@bbajr]

not completely out of question. Geforce now is full blown PC and publishers block it.

[@j_dun4830]

@@bbajrbecause it's a cloud service - all M$ have to do is have the OS available for PC and handhelds Windows console version and they can't do anything.

[@bbajr]

@@j_dun4830 i want them to go all in on windows version that runs on xbox too. yep. if that happens, it's all gg. but u see it would be going against so many other microsoft partners.

[@albertforline9175]

Wow guys. I love that idea of tipping the devs!!!

[@gamingnation9526]

Jez so Sony should copy Microsoft strategy that’s failed and has them going full 3rd party right….Xbox failed,pc failed,cloud failed,services flatlined now they need Sony and Nintendo to survive.

[@AmedeoEnglen]

I would love to know where people like you come up with this shit.

[@Amearie]

@@AmedeoEnglenis he wrong. Why else would Xbox be putting their games on other platforms if they didn’t need to?

[@j_dun4830]

@@Amearielike Sony?

[@gamingnation9526]

@@j_dun4830 Sony been putting games on pc since the consoles existence but Sony strategy works without canalizing its console sales hence why they port their sing-player games 2/3 years and can put its few day and date live service on pc it’s genius.

[@Amearie]

@@j_dun4830 name a game from Sony on Xbox. Other than MLB

[@TorsionTestis]

Future of xbox sounds like a shitty pc to me. Just get a pc and install windows. Maybe launch into steam big picture mode if you want to use it with a tv and a controller. MS should focus on the xbox app on pc. Maybe merge it with battlenet

[@gamingnation9526]

Jez is missing one thing no one wants a Xbox hence why Microsoft is going 3rd party

[@fishboots639]

By that logic, nobody wants a PlayStation either. Sony's biggest gen (by a long shot) was 20 years ago...I'll say it again, for you slow learners...20 YEARS AGO!! Sony is still playing tic-tac-toe, but Xbox is playing chess. Xbox is making more money than ever, even if by acquisitions. Sony is struggling so much to keep their closed ecosystem relevant, that they too are now a PC publisher, also having gone 3rd party. Cope harder. LOL.

[@Amearie]

⁠@@fishboots639Xbox isn’t playing chess tho, they didn’t have a choice. He is not wrong, Xbox does not sell, and they are going third party. Whatever you just said doesn’t change that fact.

[@fishboots639]

@@Amearie Oh, no doubt Xbox always sold less than Playstation. But consoles are a tiny market, and Xbox is looking beyond console sales while Sony is stuck in the past. Sony's been slowly dying for 20 years, but Xbox is making moves to continue to succeed in the GAMING industry, not the niche CONSOLE market. Sony sells consoles, but now, more than ever, Microsoft sells WAY more games on more devices, while Sony is floundering on how to stay relevant...hence them going 3rd party too.

[@Amearie]

@@fishboots639 Xbox don’t sell more games tho. Even with pc their sales don’t beat PlayStation games. That’s why Xbox never say how much games they sell, they say how much players they have. Because of gamepass. All I’m saying is the original commenter is right. Stop trying to make it seem like Xbox is the smart one, they are still around because of Microsoft. Put it like this, if PlayStation was run under Microsoft and Xbox was run under Sony, Xbox would be sega right now. Xbox have daddy’s money, but they need to get their management and vision right.

[@fishboots639]

@@Amearie Believe what you need to sleep at night. Sony is looking for pennies on the floor (100mil console players, down from 150mil 20 years ago) while MS is grabbing the $100's on the table. Xbox wanted billions of players, and they actually have them now. Sony just can't hold a candle to the amount MS is making. All that COD money is now MS. Candy Crush...MS. WoW subscribers...yep, MS. Battlenet...you guessed it. Don't kid yourself that Sony sells more games now, it's not even close. BUT that doesn't take away value from Playstation. MS is fully behind Xbox, and they've made big moves to stay profitable in the gaming market. You should be happy with Xbox's recent moves, as it'll make Sony fight harder. Competition is good for consumers; enjoy the fight and reap the benefits of the battle. There's no need for diehard loyalty. Even if you're 10 years old and can only play on the box mommy buys you for Christmas, you can still enjoy the push in advancement competition brings.