Xbox Series S vs Series X Console Review: Can The Cut-Down Console Cut It?

Join Rich for a detailed deep dive into the performance of the Xbox Series S. How do the specs compare and how does this translate into differences in the actual gameplay experience? Xbox Series X is an excellent console - but to what extent does the junior machine match up to the 12TF monster?
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[@CaptainEggcellent]

I’m still amazed at just how small the Series S is

[@chillis8267]

Yh cuz its relativly weak ass console.

[@Zero11s]

if you want something small get a Switch

[@spenny2cents]

Small? Since when do we give 2 shits about console size

[@decsmith8919]

I’m amazed how small the X is. Held it comfortably with one hand .

[@tiestofalljays]

Wait till you see mini-itx gaming PCs.

[@AstralPhnx]

Just bought a Series S like, a few hours ago. Got home, opened the box and my jaw DROPPED at how freaking TINY IT IS

[@ritzy4593]

IT'S SO CUTE OMG

[@samuraigameing9556]

Question is the plastic high quality or low quality

[@AstralPhnx]

@@samuraigameing9556 Pretty dang high quality. The whole unit feels really premium

[@robwilliamson6181]

I was surprised how powerful it actually is

[@derianardor]

Your game library is gonna be tiny too. But no hate Hope you have fun with it!

[@pleasuretokill]

I think the Series S and Game Pass will sell like crazy in 2021. $299 is a crazy low price for entry level gaming. it will probably play most AAA titles at 1080p/60fps I think which is fine for 90% of casual gamers. It's small enough that it literally fits anywhere. Just a really impressive entry level machine all the way around imo

[@Pizzaguy975]

I agree its what I'm doing and I just got one for retail price

[@NonsensicalSpudz]

@@Pizzaguy975 same they're back in stock on amazon UK mine arrives tomorrow, gonna sell my xbone x

[@barclay0876]

@@NonsensicalSpudz how would you compare it to the one x?

[@irplayWoWandXboxfan]

@@barclay0876 honestly you'd be better off saving the 100 for the sx for the "4k60fps" option. The 1x is damn great but the fact that it runs a majority of the games at 30fps sucks.

[@Chrisgamechannel1]

What y'all think about this console now

[@soraaoixxthebluesky]

I need a daily feed from Digital Foundry. It’s like a breakfast to me.

[@italianstallion701]

Need it on a drip.

[@xWaxxy]

Quite literally here. I’m in Austria so often wake up to some glorious Richard

[@D3athW1ng]

Ikr 😂

[@bobdylan2843]

No my son.

[@JohnDoe-dj3lw]

yeah sure but don't take their words like the fu***in Bible. They're not exactly right on a lot of things.

[@projectikaruga]

Series S is a hard deal for people like me who owns a XoneX. Better save for a Series x

[@jukkapiispanen123]

I agree.The lack of ram is the main reason most games on Series S will be 1080p.I'll buy the Series X next year,when you can get them.

[@HawxX1]

i'm EXACTLY at the same case as you

[@jamesw884]

@@conrado800 yep gears5 at 120 fps says that

[@lorankatoran8856]

The limited RAM is the most puzzling thing about it for me. If it ran One X games I’d get it no questions asked...but now I’m considering a PS5

[@TheRealist1.]

@@lorankatoran8856 why does that puzzle you? It's not a 4k machine, even the 1X has more RAM. It has what it needs to do what it is marketed to do. 1080-1440p gaming 60-120fps gaming. If only Ubisoft got that memo...

[@user-tu8eu6ei5s]

I want the series S and I don't even need one, as I have a comparable gaming PC. It's just so small and quiet, and so cheap it's incredible. I'm so happy for all the gamers who are now able to buy a powerful and cute gaming machine for just 300 bucks.

[@cyberpunkdenton9497]

Same same. My PC is like 5 years old now and can barely run KF2 at 30fps, so xbss is going to be a blessing.

[@selohcin]

LOL, the Series S is NOT powerful. Small and cute? Sure. But don't kid yourself: this thing is severely underpowered for next-generation games.

[@Twingamingx]

@Chandu don't buy one then it's clearly not for you...

[@Twingamingx]

@Chandu it is for kid's, people on a budget and casual gamers

[@marekg7259]

@Chandu i play only fifa and some silly co-op games with my console freinds. For rest i have powerfull pc. And i dont have 4k screen. So i got series s.

[@chew2237]

I went from an Xbox One to the Series S and I'm so happy with it! 😊

[@lawsofearth6617]

Same worthy upgrade :)

[@MrDunmaglass]

I have an xbox one and wanna upgrade too, hope I can snag one

[@YourPalHDee]

Hell yeah man. 900p to 1440p has gotta look great.

[@outplayed4511]

@@YourPalHDee 1440p monitor is a must in this case ? or somehow one can get a sharper look with 1080p monitor also ? (for series s)

[@YourPalHDee]

@@outplayed4511 the Xbox Series S will still look sharper on 1080p than the Xbox One S.

[@TwoMeterGamingUK]

"I had a great time playing games on it"...and that is all that matters.

[@vincentrowe4116]

First time I've seen this guy, or watched digital foundry, and like he was so calm, collected, and unbias it was great ngl. Defo coming back for more, great stuff

[@linhza501]

yeah Richard has been in this business for a long time. He knows his stuff, and so does his crew.

[@spenny2cents]

Ohh how biased they are lol I remember being naïve like you

[@vincentrowe4116]

@@spenny2cents majority of what this guy said was objective thou, not opinion based. FYI this is the only vid I watched so no need to call me naive lmao

[@user-np7vp1ku4s]

@@vincentrowe4116 They aren't biased at all. They are very objective and professional in their work. Of course they sometimes share their opinions, nothing wrong about it, but they were never biased.

[@vincentrowe4116]

@@user-np7vp1ku4s had a look throu their other videos since and I compeltly agree they seem super chill and placid it's pretty solid

[@DigitalFoundry]

As is often the case, this is indeed a 4K mastered video, and KZbin continues to process away behind the scenes. Watch now for the info and/or check back for improved 1080p quality and the 4K encode.

[@RideTheGamer]

What's up?

[@cako7139]

U could Upload it but make it private and after its in 4k u just make it visible, how about that? Just an Idea :)

[@volatilelyle5170]

I just love watching you guys talk about stuff. My internet buffers at 4K anyway

[@SayakMajumder]

Can we get a dedicated Series S vs One X games comparison video?

[@vitaobatera]

I hope this answers my question what's the best console for 4K60 TV... let's see

[@josephD32]

The main reason I chose Series S: availability. I could actually get a Series S at retail price, and being able to actually get a console goes a long way into helping to decide which system a lot of players will get.

[@JihadIrish]

Same here. I'll upgrade to a Series X when they aren't over 1k dollars on Ebay. I'm happy with the S for now. Its a great little system that is leaps and bounds better than the last gen Xbox One.

[@gorz5435]

Same here. Was actually able to walk into a store and buy it. You know, like normal products.

[@UnrealNeal]

Agreed. I was able to order one from Best Buy and picked it up next day! Now they are sold out again 😂 Holidays coming up.

[@JihadIrish]

Update* Found a Series X through Xbox All Access via GameStop. Series X system and 2 years of GamePass for 34$ a month.

[@Gondor149]

Same. Couldn't find an series x for almost a year and I'm not going to finance a game console. Never even saw an ss until last week Walmart had like 12 of them. I'm happy with my purchase. I only have a 1080p tv and paid retail.

[@benhero85]

Coming on 2 years I would love to see an update to this video

[@richardtucker5938]

Rich's outro 'Digital foundry' was the gentlest rendition i have yet heard. Like a lullaby to send us all to sleep zzz

[@KenMathis1]

*Digital Foundry:* Let's look at backwards compatibility of the Series S *Me:* _(looks at shelf full of Xbox 360 disks)_ Ummm....

[@bern9642]

@12Tflop BruteForce they will probably add an external disk reader soon.

[@felipesantos-er4kk]

@@bern9642 I doubt

[@justitgstuff5284]

ikr, I previously got a digital edition One S to save some money, thinking I'd just play game pass games only. Didn't realize how many of my older games I couldn't play without the disk drive, and also that it's so easy to find physical current gen games for cheap. Definitely gonna go with a Series X this time considering how amazing the backwards compatibility is at this point (compared to the PS5, which will likely never get PS3 support).

[@tombraider200571]

@@justitgstuff5284 If your at all own any 8th generation of consoles, I'd high reccomend not getting a digital version. it will hurt you in the end

[@sugonmaballs]

@@bern9642 They definitely will not add an external disc reader. It's a $10 part maybe they could have just put in the console, so they were deliberate in omitting it to force you to Game Pass or re-buying your old Xbox games.

[@valiantsloth]

With the Series S, I think it's mostly going to come down to how much effort the developer puts into it. We've already seen some say they won't have ray tracing on Series S and others can make it work. Target may be 1440p, but resolutions are going to be all over the place, again, depending on the developer. All of the hardware cutbacks are to be expected if not targeting 4k just from how much more information has to be processed for 4k textures. At least having an equivalent CPU architecture and SSD, game design won't have to be compromised even though visuals will be compromised. For someone like me who never ponied up for the latest gen PC components and typically built my PCs with components that were a year or two old, a Series S follows a lot of the same philosophy. If you just want to be able to play everything and don't care about the highest settings or framerates possible, the Series S is a good value.

[@OneLastScholar]

Exactly. I got mine for €250, it is a steal. Hopefully devs won't be forced by execs to ignore the Series S and its power; it can definitively run any game at 60 FPS as long as there is some tune-down on graphics, but some companies like CD Projekt RED just lazily copy-pastes the Series X version, lowers resolution and locks the game to the 30 FPS it was always capable of doing.

[@lemmy154]

@@OneLastScholar 💀

[@OneLastScholar]

@@lemmy154 Glad to see my fears haven't materialized so far.

[@Jay053]

@@OneLastScholarSeries s is dog shit the console is weak.

[@OneLastScholar]

@@Jay053 Nah it is quite powerful and a really good console for 300 bucks.

[@WoollyMittens]

Quick resume should be optional and if opted out the reserved hard drive cache should be released.

[@kebbinator]

Maurice van Creij Completely agree. It’s a nice feature, but the fact that it isn’t applied to all games, how long it can take (30+ seconds) to resume and the storage requirements make it not worth it for me personally and I’d prefer to disable it.

[@Nikownzyu]

Losing almost 30% performance on a feature that i will never use and that only like 10 games even support rn just completely blows my mind. Why is microsoft bottlenecking this thing so hard? The sad truth is to sell more series x consoles.

[@GraveUypo]

@@Nikownzyu what? are you high? the performance thing has absolutely nothing to do with quick resume... supposedly. quick resume just dumps the RAM content into the ssd for later use.

[@Nikownzyu]

@@GraveUypo Its a reserved cache of RAM though. Not dynamic. This severely limits the Ram in the console which is unified and shared with everything.

[@Haaambuurger]

I would prefer that the feature was clearer to users. I'd like to see a little pause icon next to games that are ready to be quick resumed.

[@the.wanginator]

Series S vs One X would make an interesting comparison

[@KizaruB]

In games that have enhancements exclusive to One X, it’ll lose. But in games that are equal, the Series S is better.

[@twitch-xjuiceboxtwitch2088]

@King Dingeling seeming more like 1080p machine :))))

[@atlfoevaeva09]

If you watched the video, there was already one.

[@nigelo92]

Without ray-tracing etc wouldn't the One X outperform the Series S at the target 1080p/1440p resolutions? With more RAM and a beefier GPU? Depends if they'll be CPU or GPU bound games?

[@hunterbowser667]

@@KizaruB and games that have next gen enhancements will look better on S. Yeah backwards compatibility modes have a difference but any next gen game will perform better on series s

[@flelllilx]

I'm getting the s as my side console for my ps5.

[@spenny2cents]

Nice. Would do the same but built a gaming pc right before it was announced.

[@alexfirth21]

@Truth Returns Depends on needs, this video does a good job making the distinction. I'd say if you a primarily gaming on PS5 then yeah, this is a good buy. But if you have decked out 4K high-end TV, well you should be able to afford both PS5 and Series X as the X will provide the better quality visuals. But ultimately, it's up for consumers to decide.

[@zeelong1589]

Same

[@carlomorischi3435]

This is a very wrong choice

[@carlomorischi3435]

Buy a switch instead, at least it's portable and you have all the Nintendo exclusive games

[@KarlRock]

Talk about in depth! Thank you. Series S is a nice package if you don't want to game at 4k. I don't really care about gaming at 4k... But I'll take the Series X for the storage and optical drive for second hand games anyway.

[@NayaabKhan]

Look who I found in DF comments!! Xbox chahiye jee 😄🙏🏼

[@matrix9452]

Except that if you like higher framerates, some games offer 1080p60 on PS5 and Series X... But if you like 30fps AND don't care about 4K, so is the right console.

[@christopherwalkinalloverya5824]

Way to justify purchasing an xbox potato.

[@rinaa6865]

@@christopherwalkinalloverya5824 Better than buying a PS5 which is HUGE, Noisy, Crashes and bricks and not very powerful

[@rinaa6865]

@@matrix9452 Except games like Modern warfare, Star wars, Rocket League etc are 120fps on Xbox but only 60fps on the PS5.

[@mortyexplains]

"Gamepass is value-riffic" - DF

[@gathrailreese8018]

I'm a 1080p gamer that's interested in Game Pass. This is actually not a bad idea.

[@wwfww]

It’s a bad idea precisely because it won’t do 1080p on many games

[@zohebsaikia]

For future proofing it's extremely bad idea

[@rubenthehuman]

The problem is the storage, it is too small, and adding 1TB extra puts you over the price of a Series X.

[@MatthewLowery]

@@wwfww it’ll 1080p on all games except for last gen ones which were locked at 900p, and the many Series S games which run at 1440p

[@skatellites6612]

The folks on here thinking this machine isnt future-proof: it will use DirectML for resolution upscaling

[@M7son3000]

feels like ages since your last vid.

[@sumitupadhayay2270]

Didn't realise their last video was 3 days ago do yea it's been ages.... especially watching rich(and his hands ofcourse)after so long haha

[@pdk-qx9yg]

Lol same here. I love DF and there so many video ideas to choose from. I'm really interested in a Demon Souls analysis.

[@conrado800]

@@pdk-qx9yg John is working on that! Cant wait

[@Nocturnal02]

Chill lol

[@amnril]

I’m getting the feeling we’ll be getting more before the 19th, the second release date.

[@WednesdayMan]

there's a comparison I really want to see. Xbox One X vs Xbox Series S

[@vandammage1747]

One X is for 4K screens XSS is for 1080p screens

[@ggss1176]

​@@vandammage1747 512mb vs 1tb + Bluray uhd vs all digital + 8gb ram vs 12gb ram to factor in

[@armorking481]

@@ggss1176 3.6ghrtz 4tf of "rdna2" series s 2.4ghrtz 6tf of "jaguar" onex. Cpu alone of series s is farrrrrrrrrrr better then onex Looool rdna2 crushes jaguar easily.

[@vandammage1747]

​@@ggss1176 60fps vs 30fps, that's where XSS shines over X1X right now when rdna2 features aren't used. It's 8gb vs 9gb ram, not 8 vs 12. But when devs start to use BCpack, sampler feedback streaming, mesh shaders and machine learning, XSS ram will have an effective size much bigger than X1X. X1X would probably need 16-20gb to do the same. The biggest drawback in XSS is back compat not using X1X versions IMO.

[@ahmeddasavage9869]

@@vandammage1747 should I get xss or xsx? I have a 1440p monitor and 130 dollar 1tb ssd

[@yaojiyue]

Series S is a perfect console for my workplace!

[@Sp1n1985]

Workplace console?

[@AlexRamiGaming]

I need some PS5 vs XBOX Series X videos so I know what console to get some of my games on.

[@Elementox-im1tm]

3rd party games is for Series X. All play best there

[@psygnozis]

DF is disappointing right now

[@seangearhart4616]

No you don't. Play where your friends are and you always win.

[@pavolridrich3434]

I don't really see this as a problem. Most of the multiplatform games will be "identical" with small differences. The only true difference we will see will be in sony exclusives. So PS5 is a must and XSX is later buy in case MS will start bringing some big guns.... IF that ever happens

[@rashaddow]

@@Elementox-im1tm Alll? Thats not a fact on this channel.

[@GamePlayer1695]

It can run Just Cause 3. It's a winner in my book.

[@mariomr1000]

Just cause 3 was a funny game to play using the grapple hook

[@zakish222]

@@mariomr1000 best game imo

[@wisinceregood6305]

my rtx laptop can already run JC3 max setting @ 80 - 120 fps, no need to play console version which is still capped to 30 fps.

[@nizzy277]

@@wisinceregood6305 u funny man ha ha ha

[@MrTurtle15]

The series s is not a winner in anyone's book 😂

[@Makoto03]

I'm enjoying my Series S alot so far but i wish Devs would patch in options to unlock 60 fps for older games. Sad to see Series S capable of it but can't.

[@gmailuser699]

Still enjoying? Did you try 1440p?

[@Makoto03]

@@gmailuser699 I am. I recently got a 1080p monitor, so i didn't really try 1440p. Even on my 4k monitor, most of the games i played were at 1080p.

[@arjuna2670]

@@Makoto03 How is it running on 4k resolution

[@glennhkboy]

@@arjuna2670 you need a TV support VRR. Than you'll need to buy a HDMI 2.1 cable.

[@kin-3877]

@@arjuna2670 it's not. He said he played it ona 4k screen but the series was using 1080p

[@italianstallion701]

I have the Series X and my friend owns the Series S and he showed me picking it up with one hand. Incredible design.

[@Haaambuurger]

I much prefer the design of the S. It's a shame that the backwards compatibility is so much less impressive.

[@ahmeddasavage9869]

@@Haaambuurger how?

[@Haaambuurger]

@@ahmeddasavage9869 Well, on the Xbox One X they had some Xbox 360 games which were enhanced to take advantage of the extra power. Better frame rates, better resolution, upscaled video and so on. The Xbox Series X maintains these upgrades, but the Xbox Series S will play those games as if they are running on an Xbox One original, meaning they won't be upgraded from their original versions at all.

[@Haaambuurger]

Fallout 3 runs better and loads faster on the Series X compared to S, and Final Fantasy XIII has all of it's pre-rendered cutscenes re-exported at a much higher resolution than was possible on 360 (due to the limited disk size)

[@ahmeddasavage9869]

@@Haaambuurger so what should I get? I have a 1440p hdr monitor

[@DrewGreen289]

I have the Series S and have to say I agree with everything in this video. I LOVE it. No, it's not a powerhouse, but I knew that going in, and I'm connected to a 65" 4K display. I have a PS5 to do the heavy lifting, but the Series S just has a charm to it that I think most recent consoles are missing.

[@NeptuneSega]

What charm? Certainly its a crippled Series X and thus the X should have all the charm plus more.

[@zm0rc]

@@NeptuneSega people who couldn't get an x do this confirmation bias to justify why they got an inferior console, shit like "its just so cute" "its got character" is evidence of this. When your main talking points is how the console that youll never look at looks like, you know you fucked up.

[@spenny2cents]

@@zm0rc spot on

[@tek1645]

@@zm0rc yep, not a fan of this denialism

[@colors6692]

Stupid comment!

[@aligillani7107]

You guys are freaking brilliant at what you do. As a hardware engineer I tip my hat to you folks.

[@bigbenisdaman]

So glad to hear the menuing is so much improved. Really felt like a mess on the XboxX, so sluggish, felt kinda like win vista.

[@piqone1]

Have you revisited these systems in a recent update? Could you compare them against themselves from a year ago and see significant differences just from updates and patches?

[@babyboy1971]

Seconded!

[@jsgv7935]

Third…ed?

[@johnarigi6274]

Fourtheth

[@ghooastmf4937]

Fiftheth

[@Adeolaex]

@@ghooastmf4937 Sixtheth :)

[@JUANMAS7ER]

Republic Commando running at 60fps..15 years after release, good job next gen.

[@CSC065]

Lmao I thought it’ll be more than 60fps but holy cow that’s a big face palm 60fps for an 15 year old pixelated game

[@cropredator1027]

Haha true....this Next gen is shit

[@johnsf.1634]

meanwhile both next gen consoles running call of duty cold war at 1440 120 fps

[@soulbrother5435]

Dont forget AC Unity

[@sob7645]

Consumers have become just as dumb as companies want them to be.. works well with old software not designed with these specs in mind. Thats a bad thing why? Plays modern games thet have been delayed by a global pandemic. 'Console is trash'

[@DrBell-gi7bf]

This is perfect for me. I only play Skyrim and FIFA religiously. Everything else I beat and never play again. This is the perfect box for me.

[@nicolasrolke3538]

Since I travel a lot with my job the series S is an absolute blessing and a must buy day one.

[@ShaktiChaturvedi]

I bought one and have the same situation as you, trust me you won't regret it ! Just get an external hard drive to store games

[@parazels83]

Xcloud?

[@carlomorischi3435]

Lol very comfortable travelling with a luggage just to bring a console! Have you considered buying a Nintendo Switch?

[@DrHeroe]

@@carlomorischi3435 have you considered mind your own business

[@nicolasrolke3538]

@@carlomorischi3435 It is the size of two controllers and fits in a hand luggage. I feel sorry for you that you never travelled.

[@KeavyGoesLive]

The Series S is a really good emulation machine. Just pay the $20 Developer fee and you can emulate up to Dreamcast now with promises of PS2 and GCN emulation coming soon.

[@AlphaRemixHD]

as a hardcore Xbox gamer that got the Xbox series S I'm in love with it. I'm fine with not having a big hard drive because I have a external I can switch things back and forth with. and I think the graphics are really impressive on the S

[@yellowbat79]

I think it should be mentioned that with the xbox series S|X you can store your next gen games on an external hard drive. Granted, you won't be able to play them from it and you need to move them back to the internal SSD if you ever wanted to play them but it's still a good thing that it's possible so you don't absolutely have to delete games if you're running out of storage (which you definitely will)

[@andrewmaple9863]

I've got a series s as I've still got a 1080p tv love it so glad I went for the s such a nice console

[@slumy8195]

bought due to not caring about 4k and not wanting to trash my 1440p 144hz monitor. RAther wait for the new consoles by 2030 for 8k resolution+

[@zerocal76]

What a great review. Your guys' content is superb even compared to other solid tech channels. I enjoyed some time w/ the XSS but instead went w/ a second XSX, yes second! Gaming room in the garage in 2023 😁🥳🥳

[@Panyc333]

The Xbox Series S is probably not for anyone who watches Digital Foundry.

[@beefphone]

The shot of putting it in a backpack though. If we lived in a world where you could travel, that would be really appealing to me.

[@freddywayne]

Agreed! 😂

[@danwarb1]

It is if you don't want to waste money on the X for console games. Put the difference toward a GPU.

[@alinepiroutek8932]

I watch DF to know about framerates

[@BrotherKnowledge.]

There is one type of viewer: Nintendo or Sony-only gamers that want an Xbox for its exclusives (especially future exclusives) with no intention of using it as a primary gaming machine.

[@Whawpenshaw]

This video fully convinced me the naming scheme Microsoft came up with is asinine.

[@MrDavis-ic8yh]

Yeah i really had to pay attention to which system he was talking on

[@ajaakola2]

this is nothing compared to pc hardware namings, just look some cpus up

[@DrPacman]

@@ajaakola2 nah this is definitely worse than cpu naming schemes. at least they are numbered

[@johnames6430]

I think this will be Microsoft's last console. They are more concerned with being woke than making good games or a good console. PlayStation will outsell the new xbox probably 10 to 1

[@tim3172]

@@johnames6430 I'm sorry to hear that you're racist/homophobic/transphobic/just an idiot. Perhaps you should spend less time obsessing over Microsoft and some time educating yourself?

[@billytk1225]

The #1 focus with the Series S was to get more people away from owning their games, and be able to force the gamers to require Game Pass and ensure they would purchase all of there games digitally through the XBox Store. Why do you think the Series S was so much easier to get ahold of than the Series X was. They banked on 'if we make the Series X less available, that will force them to purchase the S rather than have to wait'. Most took the bait and didn't even realize what they were loosing/doing to gaming.

[@Solegor]

I think in terms of "taking games with you on holidays" Switch is completely unbeatable

[@MrTD714]

Lol you smoking crack right

[@slickrat]

As long as you prefer the games that are available on Switch, which is not the case for me and possibly not for other people either.

[@alphaj9]

Well now that you can play Xbox games via phone and tablets that doesn’t hold true anymore. There are more options now. I have a switch but being able to play real games on my phone is awesome! You can hook an Xbox up via Bluetooth too

[@Domtooboss]

You’re probably biased because you have a switch

[@Nesformers]

@@alphaj9 You can't play them, you can stream them, which is hardly the same.

[@redhunter1535]

Series X has really the potential to be the best console ever, great backward compatibility with 4 console, gamepass full of great games, super powerful and with all the future Bethesda games.

[@Jhakaro]

Future Bethesda games will be on ps as well though and the massive power doesn't mean much until they show us next gen games that really make use of it. Most games at launch are just old games. The rest for sure though. Game pass is fantastic and awesome backwards compatibility.

[@ChrisBa303]

Lets net get to hyped it still has the potential to be another xbox one gen. In fact xbox one had a considerable better start than series x so far.

[@Final_Dawn]

Dualsense alone is the reason why I'll get a PS5 over series X. It's above anything that is on the market. HD rumble isn't even close!

[@spenny2cents]

ROFL Lmao Lol

[@TheIshikawaRin]

Background music: Bjørn Lynne - Over Distant Shores

[@ScottCastle]

thanks

[@agentorange7918]

I always wanted to know.

[@iHaveTheDocuments]

It's clearly derude sandstorm, but nice try.

[@Dkentflyer]

Night night

[@Sir1626]

that $200 difference seems so small for the extra SSD space and power you get for the xbox series x. It's even worse when you can spend $100 more and get a PS5

[@selohcin]

Exactly. Series S, relative to Series X, is a terrible deal. I admit that it gives you much more than you could get from a $300 PC at the moment, but you'll get so much more from the Series X that it seems absolutely shortsighted to buy the series S.

[@Joker-yw9hl]

Yeah good point. The Digital PS5 might sway a lot of heads away from the S to those not fully committed to getting an Xbox specifically. I'll be really fascinated to see the sales figures down the line of the S vs the X. I may be way off but I can see the S outselling the X globally, but perhaps not in Europe or the US

[@kenshigo3833]

In my books, the S is only a good option for someone who already has a X with gamepass (or wants to get it) and needs a console for the kids or the bedroom so the games can be played there as well.

[@DrHeroe]

@@kenshigo3833 thats what I did?, sx n the livingroom and ss n my bedroom

[@kenshigo3833]

@@DrHeroe good choice imo. I´m more a Playstation guy, but i´m using the gamepass on PC. If i´d get a "2nd" console, it would probably be the S for that too.

[@Sabrosito4u]

for those who are not sure about the s series, I have to tell you that it is wonderful, the lack of commitment in some games is a matter of the developers

[@marinesgtblake]

As someone who has a PS5. I love the amount of info Microsoft gives you in their store compared to PSN. The PS store on the 5 isn't that great imo.

[@pitchblack5422]

CAP

[@Clay3613]

The system just launched...gotta wait for it to fill up.

[@ahrlj24]

PS store has a lot of sales. Need for Speed is 5$ now and Red Dead 2 is 28$. Lot more sales on other games as well

[@dannolest1409]

@@ahrlj24 Sales are good, but most Games which arent in sales are still full price even when theyre 2-3 years old 😅

[@conrado800]

Don’t worry Xbox has ads on the home page. PS5 feels more high end

[@hattorihanzo1329]

It’s better to go for XSX or PS5. The digital versions will end up costing you more on the long run and make you less flexible than the disc version where game discounts happen faster

[@f22raptor973]

I think the series s will be fantastic value in the future when you consider how much better will get next year.

[@mayman4255]

Not exactly, With gamepass you won't have to spend $70 per game.

[@atlien1988]

No. At $299, no one is looking at this console to compete with the Series X or PS5. However, it's a great entry level console to play 8th generation and 9th generation games. With Series S, gamers also receive backwards compatibility with all previous Xbox consoles, and more than. 100+ games with Game Pass (and EA Play included in Game Pass Ultimate). Storage may be a premium, but Series S still supports external storage for all Xbox games EXCEPT games specifically made for next gen hardware.

[@n.b.9950]

Not for me! I don't want to own disc anymore.

[@KraszuPolis]

@@f22raptor973 It will not 1TB SSD for xbox cost 200$, Xbox S will need it pretty fast + more expensive games that you can't resell, Xbox S is not only much weaker but it will end up being more expensive.

[@grub2592]

Thanks for this review and look into the Series S. Ps5 owner here... just bought a Series S for the upcoming Flight Simulator and am excited to try it out when it releases July 27th!!

[@elvisnunez9226]

I think that labeling the box as 500gb is false advertising of which we only get 300+gb of space instead. They should have made the internal memory a bit bigger to make up with all the space used for the system update there for we are left with 500gb. It's not fare to the consumer because we are paying more for less.

[@roadraj77]

Rich, thanks for this! I was actually wondering when you guys would talk about the S. It was extremely informative, and I agree with you regarding how cool the S looks. It was the only one I managed to get my hands on, but I love how small it is, and the games play fairly well. I am hopeful that, as the generation moves forward, the developers push the S to its limits and really show us what it can do!

[@barrymacdonald3439]

If someone does have a low income the series s is perfect because let's face it in 3 years you know both Sony and Microsoft are going to release the Ps5 Pro/Xbox series double XX so it may be a better solution to buy the one s with game pass and just save for when the pro versions come out.

[@hunbbelmeer6600]

@@barrymacdonald3439 I can't wait for the third revision. Xbox Series XxX.

[@carlomorischi3435]

Pushing the S to its limits means 720p gaming, have fun...

[@sarlndr]

@@carlomorischi3435 😂😂

[@JihadIrish]

@@carlomorischi3435 I'm literally running 4k with my series S right now. Carry on tho.

[@memorycard1000]

Quickresume is crazy good! I've literally already changed my gaming habits. Can't go back. Switching between Starwars and Halo 5 right now and these games loads up in seconds. So when it works, it's awesome! It's so nice to just pop out whenever for some youtube or Netflix and then just continue gaming again. I'm stuck infront of the tv. 😁

[@guitarspud1723]

Bouncing between kingdom hearts, Resident evil, Jedi fallen order tetris effect is amazing.

[@END-oc4qu]

If you believe any of what you said about those overall arguments or consistency arguments disproving my absolute rank you would challenge me to a debate but, you are lying speaking bluntly. You know you nor all of anyone combined CANNOT PROVE it. We can do this just message me.

[@memorycard1000]

@@END-oc4qu? What's going on?

[@oldmusicalexpress]

Great review us usual Richard + DF! I'm 1 week into owning a Series S and I've no regrets whatsoever. My biggest concern was storage but I've got 15 games installed (only a handful of which are Indie titles) and that's more than enough to keep me busy for a few months. I've no doubt that in time I'll need more storage, and on paper the PS5 digital looks like a better investment, but the key difference is Game Pass Ultimate. Having taken advantage of the promo deal I've got access to all of those titles for £40 a year, at the moment I don't think Sony can compete with that.

[@JFLTX]

Now this a review. Linus Tech Tips was terrible.

[@lxXSuddenDeathXxl]

He’s been overall terrible lately. Uninformed & just making videos without all the information gathered.

[@youpa]

It depends... Linus has became something like Austin and mkhb. It's sad... But it's what makes money for the masses and advertising for the companies. But... His review was more honest showing how shit series S looks. At least MS made something that even Sony couldn't do: play psone games!

[@kingalula1977]

@@youpa mkhbd has been perfectly fine, don’t see anything wrong with him. Austin and Linus are the ppl u should be talking about

[@michaelgrover3443]

LTT is all about being a meme, not providing real info. It's unwatchable.

[@dis6wood]

Agreed

[@JoaoFragos04]

I have one series S and I love it and that's what matters to me 🤙🏻

[@thepizzaelf]

I guess your a fan of 30fps or 900p lol

[@earnistse4899]

Bruhhhh should’ve just got the x lol . S is pointless. Half the storage and way less powerful

[@mustangt281]

Yep that’s all that matter!!

[@Maximusss1385]

Nooooooob

[@earnistse4899]

@@thepizzaelf exactly and once he buys the expansion drive he’s spent more than the x hahaha

[@arturom628]

I have had 1 week with my series S and I´m very happy with it. I can afford the series X but went for the S. Portability is important to me since I move around a lot. If space is the problem you can just DELETE the games you dont really use or like (or download to USB HDD and later just move them to the internal SSD. Most people wont play more than 4 games at a time. Anyway I have some 9 or 10 games installed and I cannot complain. I also have a Xbox one S and there is a huge difference in loading times. No comparison here. The quick resume thing is also great. And yes, the Series S design is just CUTE. I somehow feel that it will become a classic.

[@V1CT1MIZED]

I'd love to see an episode with Rich's hands tied down, would be funny to see the facial expressions

[@dieterkoch8414]

Probably the only KZbin channel I automatically like as soon as I start watching... keep up the great work guys

[@vido4eva]

Let's just enjoy gaming. Tired of these console wars and fanboys

[@vorkzen4767]

Good Hope ! 😇

[@iitsrad9694]

Amen

[@ghastous]

Totally agree. I was reading a review today on Demon Souls and the comments were just fanboys of each system slagging each other off saying whos is better then whos. Just enjoy what system you have bought and dont be a prick cos ppl buy the other. Im a PC gamer but i dont go around slagging all the console players off cos they consoles aint up to par compared to a high spec PC. Ill be buying both Xbox and PS5 like i always do as im a gamer not a fanboy.

[@steve833333]

Drama is fun though. Without it this shit would be boring.

[@BridgeBoii]

Fr

[@RandomGamingMoments925]

Series S is interesting, but for another 100$ the PS5 Digital Edition is a FAR better value for money proposition, with much better hardware, better controller and twice the actual storage. It's a no-brainer unless your budget is tight.

[@s.garabet1677]

The storage angle is a valid done. At least with the PS5, in due time, you'll be able to upgrade it using non-proprietary drives. $200+ for extra storage when the console itself is $300 is a tough pill to swallow.

[@michaelwirth3720]

The storage problem is on every next gen console. Its not just series s. If you think the 300gb more storage for ps5 is a gamechanger, than LOL

[@maxpowerulez5276]

@@michaelwirth3720 but ps5 will eventually be xheap, xbox won't, is propietary

[@theinfinity2994]

The controller part is debatable but otherwise I’d say this is true.

[@michaelwirth3720]

@@maxpowerulez5276 it will be cheap too in the future, because we will get alot of third party ssd cards.

[@gn0mexsaying75]

Incredible review. 10/10 from the information to the production quality. I rarely like and subscribe, let alone do both on the first video watched from a channel. Keep it up guys 👍

[@bubblebobblekd]

Disc drive series s would be a good back compatibility console

[@firexallst4rz277]

It’s hard to even care anymore about the new consoles because you can’t even get one right now

[@hiwasgeht7945]

You can get a series S 🤷‍♂️

[@firexallst4rz277]

Can’t find those either unfortunately

[@zm0rc]

I got 4 ps5s, 1 xsx, 2 xss...you just suck at pressing f5 i guess.

[@firexallst4rz277]

I’ve tried Amazon, Newegg, Sony and Microsoft sites no luck there all out of stock

[@KizaruB]

I wanted one so bad for the holidays but I’ve heard they won’t have stable stock until late H12021! This is madness!

[@hectorsequi5252]

Soo what about AC and COD comparaison? want to hear Alex explaning the performance gap, sure, the light!

[@kaltask1]

According to other DF kind youtubers, Valhalla 1620p 30fps vs dynamic 4k (1800p mostly) 60fps.

[@anthonycogan9801]

I really like the SerS concept but its very circumstantial how appealing it is to want to buy. In my own case I own a XBox 1X so I have chosen to buy a PS5 and buy a SerX in 2 years when there are Xbox exclusives. Ihave bought 2 SerS consoles for my two sons who have 1080 tvs. The console is perfect for them

[@gingersnaps6941]

After taking a course in electric materials: Thermal imaging isn't as easy as you make it seem. It doesn't show the temperature of the object, just the heat that is expelled in the infrared spectrum. Some materials radiate more, some less, some don't radiate at all in the infrared spectrum. Unless you coated all the surfaces for maximum thermal radiation your reading are not comparable. Just so you know.

[@rachmatzulfiqar]

They should've use both thermal imaging and a laser thermometer gun

[@korsol]

Correct

[@White_Hawk]

If we're considering radiated heat here, would the colour of Series X cause it to read differently when thermal imaging is used as opposed to when it's used on Series S? Black surfaces and white surfaces radiate heat very differently, but does this affect what the thermal imaging method used here reads?

[@gingersnaps6941]

A thermal probe would be the "best". Thermal imaging is only useful then you can't touch the object or you know exactly how the different materials radiate and the calculate the actual temerature based on the thermal image. I had to do measurements on the XBox One S and its components at varying operating modes. In the worst case a components would show up as ambient on the camera, but have about 50°C, when you stick a thermal probe on it.

[@gingersnaps6941]

@@rachmatzulfiqar to my knowledge, the laser thermometer also only reads infrared emission. So does the same thing.

[@iskamag]

the most important part is having fun and series s delivers it greatly from my experience

[@red2432]

Imagine not spending 100$ for a machine that is 2x as powerful

[@Ali-ri4lu]

@@red2432 imagine buying a 3times biggef console thats 2x times stronger but 3x times bigger💀

[@ZENN121]

@Deathtrooper204 personally haven't bought disk based games all of this gen. I get it why it's still around but the way things are going next gen in about 6 years will be diskless.

[@TheMateus56]

@@red2432 Imagine just playing the games and enjoying your console without minding about what others gonna buy...

[@vxvxcvxcvcvxc]

@@red2432 Imagine not spending another $100 for a smaller, just as powerful console with game pass.

[@SteevWho]

late to watching you review but, thank you. I bought a series s, and returned it the next day. The hard drive space is a deal breaker. After putting three games on it, it was FULL. No need to have Quick Play, when you only have three games. Definitely not for anyone that likes AAA titles. There just is not enough room.

[@Benzin0]

You know that... you can add more storage to it right?

[@mikem2253]

@@Benzin0 for the price you might as well get a Series X.

[@stevenbaksh5545]

For me the price is just too good to not buy a Xbox series S in my country a Series S is $380 USD and a Series X is almost $900 USD so later on I can buy a $60 1TB external hard drive. The Series S is a real game changer for third world gamers this is the first time I am able to afford a current gen console

[@_INVU_]

I was gonna get series x but low on money so I got the series s, and wow it holds up beautiful!! It looks next gen either way!

[@Twin.motors]

it seems to me like people are underselling this console. It's literally an improvement in every way to the original One S. A vast improvement... not just 1440p gaming capability but also the crazy ssd speed

[@xmaverickhunterkx]

It cannot be compared to the "original S". Why? Because this is a cheap console of its gen. The One S was made to be the flagship of its gen, even if an improved console came later. That concept alone makes them incomparable, specially on the long run.

[@TheGoncas2]

1440p gaming is a marketing lie.

[@christopher.costner]

@@xmaverickhunterkx actually it's good to compare that's what Microsofts goal is the series s is a huge jump from the original Xbox one but people always compare it to the one x even know the series s is better it's a step back in some ways better in others

[@denverbasshead]

Thats because the original consoles were woefully underpowered. Hence the mid gen upgrades after 3-4 years

[@WayStedYou]

If it wasnt better than the one S they would've never released it

[@neocaron87]

Well I don't see the point of having additional internal space, when it takes just a few minutes to swap your games from an external SSD to the internal one... It's more of a problem on PS5 where you can't do that for now. Also Microsoft Direct ML AI reconstruction technique should be coming in the next few months and this will make the Series S much more viable as a 1440p console, that's the hope anyway, we still don't know if it's gonna be a DLSS 2.0 quality or more like DLSS 1.0... Anyway, pretty good deep dive, thank you ! :)

[@Captain-Chats]

I’d be shocked if they don’t use MDML on the new xboxes, it’s a game changer

[@damrock]

I can take the lower resolution. I'll even except a couple of settings being slightly lower. But... I can't take 30fps games that are being played at 60fps on Series X. If 30fps vs 60fps is the trend difference, That a massive false advertising from Microsoft.

[@GregorySnipe]

Not everything is about framerate.

[@spenny2cents]

@@GregorySnipe moving the goal post again & again & again

[@nitroglycerin2743]

@@GregorySnipe bullshit man it’s all about frame rate when we’re talking about Next Gen Consoles as Assassin’s Creed Valhalla is incredible on Series X but that’s only because of the 60fps because without it you’re limited to 30fps of which literally kills all the greatness of the Game because it’s superb with 60fps but 30fps feels terrible, and there’s no excuse for 1440p 30fps on S when they couldn’t gone with a lower resolution 1080p 60fps performance mode, and while it’s not all about frame rate that was last Gen but this brand New Gen there’s no excuse for 30fps only anymore as every single game should have at least an optional 60fps performance mode period ...... 30fps is the reason I ain’t playing watch dogs legion as I refuse to play any game which is 30fps only as there’s no excuse anymore with these New consoles having custom Ryzen 3700x based CPU’s as every single game can definitely run 60fps as long as the devs aren’t lazy, and actually put the effort into optimizing their game’s with optional performance modes !

[@trickfinger1177]

I agree about the advertising, but this should be common sense. There is no ‘4k machine’ or ‘60 fps machine’. The hardware has a certain amount of power behind it, and its up to the developer to leverage that however they want. So not everything will be 4k 60 on series x, nor will it be 1440p 60 on the s.

[@mirsharulez3116]

I agree. I just wonder if it has anything to do with the fact developers hasn't received the final dev kits. Also the developers are still trying to learn the new rdna2. Next year or two we will see if ms lied.

[@ThoughTMusic]

The irony here is that engines have been developed to rely heavily on the GPU over the CPU since 2013 and because of that, the Series S is suffering. Now that developers can rely on the CPU for heavy lifting again, I’m sure games will continue to improve in their favorable comparability to the Series X as time passes and engines adapt, but early on the flaws of previous gen is poisoning the potential of the series s at launch.

[@SlayerSeraph]

Fascinating video, one of the best from Richard ! You can feel the genuine enthusiasm and awe from his delivery. Also: "Elasticity" Brilliant. Never saw anyone using that word for tech talk.

[@kryten09]

I moved from a "one x" to a "series s" because I couldn't find a "series x". Was disappointed the first day.. It started winning me over with it's "quality of life" improvements. The fast loading and "snappiness" kept me playing/trying out new games. By day 3 I downloaded "warzone" (most played game) and was really disappointed. The textures were muddy, the knock down from "1x" 4k resolution was hard to dismiss... But the smoothness of the game on the "XSS" kept me playing. I found out there was a "high resolution" patch and it made a big difference. This little box has really won me over. At least until the "Series X" is available in stores.

[@lorankatoran8856]

Do you play on a 4K screen?

[@kryten09]

@@lorankatoran8856 yes. I know I should've got a XSX but I just couldn't find one. I also got the XSS because "cyberpunk 2077" is gonna run much better on it and the other next gen consoles at launch than on ps4/xb1.

[@lorankatoran8856]

@@kryten09 oh I think the S is a fine choice! I’m asking because I’m considering doing the same but I’m on a 1080p tv. Maybe the graphical downgrades in some games wouldn’t be as noticeable for me? Mostly worried about Red Dead 2...

[@MzuMzu-nx1em]

Lacks of an handle like the gamecube...

[@DraganBlom]

That could be a screw on accessoire :) cool.

[@kekwkekw6181]

If you care about hardware technology facts XBOX Series X & PlayStation 5 Post Launch Analysis with NX Gamer | Broken Silicon 75 Watch this video Unbias Software Hardware Analysis NX Gamer Moore's law is dead Confirm PS5 Xbox Series X Are On Par With RTX 2080 TI RTX 3070 with using only 5% of their power at the start of the generation. PS5 outperfoming Xbox Series X in the first 3 third-party games tested DMC V AC Valhalla COD cold War according to Digital Foundry NX Gamer VG Tech RedGamingTech Moore's Law

[@sEaNoYeAh]

GameCube still the greatest console in history.

[@MzuMzu-nx1em]

@@sEaNoYeAh to me is the super nintendo

[@Hartfeltet]

I still dont understand why quick resume is an important feature.

[@jstapo8591]

I taught the same until I started using it. It's fantastic and I love it now, switching between games in 20 secs or less is great but even if you don't play a few games at the same time. You can jump back into the game you were playing the night or even the week before and be in game in a couple of seconds.once you have it it would be very hard to go back

[@troelembiid6970]

@Lordspalse 007 Clearly it doesn’t affect the in game performance that much because people aren’t encountering any issues. It’s a software engineered magnificence and I wish my PC could do the same without hoarding 60gb of memory.

[@cosmictwister9110]

I love it. When i‘m done playing Multiplayer with my friends, i can instantly go back to my singleplayer games

[@libardomm.trasimaco]

Thats the most important thing that I see in these next gen consoles from Microsoft. I think thats important because I like to play several games at the same time.

[@robinhakansson7517]

I was planning to get the X, but eventually settled for the S while i wait for my PS5 to be delivered in early 2021. So far, the experience has been overwhelmingly pleasant. Sure, already I can tell the storage is going to be an issue - But since my gaming habits usually consists of playing the shit out of one game until im done with it and never playing it again - Its not that big of a deal. Gamepass is - surprise - what sold it. Being able to have more games than I can play availible to me is nothing short of amazing. Sure, this is more a testament to the Gamepass service and would have been the same on the X, but since im currently on a 1080p TV the extra 200USD was to much of a hard sell. Since i was on PS4 the last gen, i have heaps of excellent games to play for - realistically - years to come, and I am still able to play any new games coming out for this gen when i want. Since i have not been on gamepass before, taking advantage of Microsofts "Convert Live Gold to Game Pass Ultimate"-deal has gotten me three years of game pass for less than the price of two new AAA titles... Sure, an X with a 4K TV would undoubtedly be a better experience - But would it be worth it for me with a 1080p-display...? Sure, futureproofing and all that, but It wont be the end of the world if i "need" to get an X in a year or so - Then the S will be perfect for the kids. In conclusion: Series S with game pass = Match made in heaven, especially of youre on an 1080p display. This will sell heaps of consoles for Microsoft.

[@FrancoRossel]

Remember that you can store Xbox One games on an external HDD, that saves internal storage for Series X/S games.

[@V3SPR]

aa fast nee, den suger, du borde köpt ps5 de ist, rip dina pengar men om det är ditt sätt att copa ångern genom att säga att den kmr sälja bra så visst 🆗😂🤣

[@joxer]

Pretty surprising given your external SSD testing that you didn't mention that all the back-compat and even Series S Ori can be run on your existing external USB drives, and that load times with SSD USB are pretty much the same as internally installed.

[@taylor6855]

What other new xbox series s/x games can be played from an external hard drive?

[@raphaelokoye6459]

@@taylor6855 non only läßt gen games can played Directly from external ssd. But you can move them before playing if you want

[@realitycheck8294]

Xbox Series S will start to show its age once true next gen games start release. PS5 digital is the best value for next gen

[@Halo9K]

As long as it plays games well, which it will, it will be just fine. For those who angst over FPS, get an X.

[@nocturnal1551]

6:25 I thought it was a Birdseye view of a Legend of Zelda map on Nintendo 😄

[@galactus4mac]

One of the main reasons why I switched to Xbox from PS is the UI/UX I absolutely love the direction the Xbox team went with the ease of use. The community help make it what it is by listening to us on their forums and responding back to us.

[@Waddehaddeduddedaa]

I think when talking about resolution of Series S we should remember that one console selling very well that often brings 720p to your 55" TV in the living room and that's the Switch.

[@hunterbowser667]

This. The series s is the switch of console gaming. It’s a Trojan horse

[@archetype6351]

The difference is that the Switch has a killer library of games. There's barely anything out that justifies buying a next gen Xbox.

[@amysteriousviewer3772]

@@archetype6351 That and the fact that it is also a hybrid. These two are not comparable in the least.

[@spenny2cents]

Anyone who compares Nintendo to the other 2 are clueless

[@leonfrancis3418]

To Mysterious Viewer, he wasn't comparing the Switch and the Series S. To Archetype, not only is what you wrote a non relevant reason to the point he was making, it's also a matter of opinion passed off as fact. There are plenty of gamers for which the Switch offers them absolutely nothing. Likewise there are plenty of players who'd still own a Switch if every single game of its library was available elsewhere because it has an entirely different draw. These are not the points OP was trying to make. OP's point is simply don't get caught up in the resolution circle jerk. The average consumer has absolutely no complaints about the graphical capability of the switch on a 4k TV, and that has NOTHING to do with its games or library and everything to do with the fact that for every person this stuff is important to, there are 50 consumers with their wallets wide open who could not care less.

[@ogrenator]

The important question to ask is what do people buy that play one or two games yearly (COD, NBA2K) and most likely on a 1080P screen? The S is perfect for the casual player who has no use for the extra power/space.

[@6ch6ris6]

exactly and tbh most gamers are exactly that. cod and some sports game. thats it.

[@kailuowang]

If I only played 1 or 2 games a year on a 1080p, I would be perfectly fine with my 7-year-old PS4.

[@spenny2cents]

What casual gamer do you know buys a brand new release date console!?! Especially one during a pandemic that is sold out within minutes, all so they could play CoD or 2K!?! So who is buying all the Series S right now? Hardcore gamers??

[@ogrenator]

@@kailuowang would you once next years cod and nba and madden and fifa dont come out on your 7 year old ps4? I'm saying its a cheaper entry ticket for a casual gamer

[@ogrenator]

@@spenny2cents no argument on that, one its a weird year and console launches are always sold out. I was more saying once the gen is up and rolling where you can walk in to a store and buy one. on that note though as dumb as it sounds I had a TON of people on my facebook feed that decided they were gonna get one of the new consoles day one by walking in to a store on lunch and just buying one like there hasn't been 10 generations of sold out launches lol I feel like some of those people would be a fit for an S type console. Shit I know "hardcore" gamers that have been using the one S since it came out and are happy about it.

[@sEaNoYeAh]

Me a year ago: "Weaker Xbox? Terrible idea, what's the point." Me now: "Omg want" I think Rich hits the nail on the head when he says this is a console reminiscent of what console gaming used to be, and all the ways it used to be convenient and cool to get hands on with these little boxes.

[@hoodhussler1226]

Convenient, cheap and runs new games for $299 and if you are smart and run 2-3 games at a time you can manage the current memory and not spend $220 on extending it but console community is the biggest sheep electronics their brains got so washed easily to the point where they buy the original console and the mid cycle refresh and now overpriced memory but worst of all they are suddenly caring for graphics and frame rate they don’t realize they are too far gone the rabbit hole by this point

[@hoodhussler1226]

@Sendit Sunday I am still using a ps3 controller for my pc 😂

[@glowerworm]

@Sendit Sunday buy a rechargeable battery, either AAs or a pack. I prefer having the option for AAs rather than being stuck with a corded controller like the Playstation, but I definitely understand other people don't mind that as much.

[@sEaNoYeAh]

@Sendit Sunday being able to change batteries is good, it's a pro consumer, convenient move. Probably should come with a play and charge kit, but the ability to use regular batteries, any rechargeable batteries or recharge packs is better than a built in battery that's difficult to change or not intended for the average user to change replace at all. It's something that's annoyed me about Sony's controller practices, the average user just assumes they need a new controller when battery life becomes inconvenient, which DS4 could be prone to doing. Hopefully DualSense is better, I haven't seen any mention of battery life yet but I'd assume they've learned from their mistakes, and the new features presumably would practically necessitate a better battery anyway.

[@Joker-yw9hl]

I'll be really fascinated to see the sales figures down the line of the S vs the X. I may be way off but I can see the S outselling the X globally, but perhaps not in Europe or the US

[@JoeyVictorVideos]

I've been waiting for the real review from these dudes.

[@willinton06]

@ayachi yassine it’s the most important video of the year let them take their time with it, plus, we have basically no games to compare them, like 5 total

[@maciekan]

I’m still waiting for valhalla review tbh

[@spenny2cents]

Keep waiting

[@alexfirth21]

Series S is the perfect starter Xbox. Whether you want to save, you can always trade up at GameStop toward a new Series X in the future; or just don't have a 4K TV yet, or you just want to casually game and use streaming apps. It's literally bang for your buck. Xbox Game Pass will grow with each sale of these no doubt.

[@michaelwirth3720]

Exactly, the best comment here 👍

[@WaveForceful]

The series S also makes use of a 4k monitor. I think it upscales even in games.

[@hassosigbjoernson5738]

Hey DF +Digital Foundry ! Maybe it's time! ... *It's time to re-evaluate Series S after one year!* Is it the forespoken 1440p power house or maybe "just" a 1080p 60 fps option? Is it the forgotten Series console or maybe *one of the best available options for console and PC players in 2020/21/22 with a a look on price-performance/ value and availability (!) ?* The prices in Germany are mostly 280 € or on Ebay 220 € for used ones. How fast does a PC need to be to match Series S performance in games with and without RT? And how much would it cost (with SSD and controller)? Are there even any games available for it? Does Series S need "exclusive titles" or does it provide an even more broadly use case scenario. And maybe you could add in some (legal) emulation option, if you want. Series S: overhyped or underrated? What's your verdict DF? Grüße aus Berlin

[@robbyg1232]

sadly thanks to the series S this gen is probably gonna have to be bottlenecked. Or they choose not to release for the series s and keep it X and 5 only, but a lot of s owners will be pissed at that, What MS should have done is the same as ps5 keep the price at £450 disc/ £350 digital and no compromising on hardware only the disc tray being removeed.

[@Paul01]

Sounds like you don't understand game design and differences in hardware (look at the fragmentation in PC market) the only thing you'll see is lazy developers not optimising games for the Series S, so they don't look as good as they could. I'm sure MS have things in place to prevent games being published to the to the Series X only, given it's their platform that always you to publish games to the consoles.

[@ratedzeus783]

At first I was like why to buy the Series S if with $100 more you can buy the PS5 digital edition. But then I realized that a PS5, game and no online would be $470. The series S, a library and online gaming is only $315.

[@kaspar737]

Digital PS5 and a year of PS+ which includes PS+ collection from CDKeys is $430 total.

[@ryanpinder9053]

@@kaspar737 And the digital PS5 is a full blown next gen console, not something that will be outdated within a couple of years.

[@ratedzeus783]

@@kaspar737 so you don't plan to buy any new game?

[@Lelende]

@@kaspar737 my guy I'm trying hear you but that's still a WHOLE $115 more. Plus way less games. I get why you love Sony but anybody who cares bout their wallet can tell Xbox is offering significantly more value for the average person. With game pass, it's virtually no comparison.

[@ratedzeus783]

@@ryanpinder9053 this console is not for me or for you. Is for casual gamers, low income families or for people that don't want to pay $500 to play Bethesda games on the coming years. We are not debating about power we are debating on value, which the series S is unbeatable.

[@MudSluggerBP]

Just getting an external 2tb hdd for my Series S, downloading all my games to it then swapping back and forth when I’m finished playing what is locally stored on the system 👍🏻

[@Clouds4Cheap]

Don't cheap out. Spend a little extra to get an external 500GB or 1TB SSD. It'll dramatically increase your loading times and you can still save money versus getting the Xbox expansion card

[@TheBlakamon15]

@@Clouds4Cheap What the point in more more money for a ssd when you are only using for space. Your are not using it play games from it. That is what the the internal storage is for since it has a way faster SSD and works Xbox velocity architecture.

[@spenny2cents]

Wow I can’t even begin to reply to how stupid this comment is

[@Clouds4Cheap]

@@TheBlakamon15 you can still play Xbox one games from external and itll transfer data to and from the system faster

[@tydendurler9574]

Microsoft: gives you hundreds of awesome games to play via gamepass Also Microsoft: here's 300GB of usable space in our new XBox

[@shaundavidssd]

Download,play,delete , repeat

[@chrisbullock6477]

They don't give them to you...LOL....there also on the PC, you don't need an Xbox to have those same experiences, but you do need a Playstation to have experiences only they can give you because of actually investing in Devs. they've help create from the ground up.....I don't need an Xbox or game pass to get those games on my PC.

[@tydendurler9574]

@@chrisbullock6477 didn't read past the first "there/they're" error

[@GraveUypo]

well xbox 360 came with 20gbs in 2005 and that's probably even worse since a game back then was 4~9gbs

[@tydendurler9574]

@@GraveUypo i believe there were bigger X-Box versions, i had PS3 with 60gb, 40gb and later 80gb and never had any storage issues ever. I can't recall game size at all from that time, which says it all imo.

[@Darkrod99]

Is 2022, and the Series S is the console with the best availability of this gen. But it's technical specs are not delivering in the next gen experience in most AAA games. Ray tracing is cut down in the console in most of the games, 60fps is not a given in recent games who knows if this will continue. Rich has now reflected and it has said that Series S is not for the DF audience. That the continuous shortcomings of the Series S, are making it difficult to recommend. If don't care about state of the art graphics or don't have the money to spend in a Series X, then a Series S is a good option but you got to know its has compromises.

[@aftereight9143]

This console is great for people with lower resolution televisions

[@neilwilson5785]

And GamePass too

[@spenny2cents]

And kids

[@6ch6ris6]

i am so sure this will be one of the best generations in gaming ever. especially compared to last gen. all consoles look very powerful and futureproof. not gonna get any oneof them as i switched to PC gaming years ago, but powerful well designed consoles are defenitly needed to boost all gaming.

[@seth4321]

A rising tide lifts all ships!

[@jdp117]

It's weird but the reason I got a Series X is because I'm a PC gamer. I've always wanted to build a second PC for my living room to get that solid 60fps gameplay with high fidelity graphics but simply could not justify splashing out on a second gaming PC. Now, you can get a console that can hit 4K 60fps with ray tracing for a third of the price of a PC that can do the same. I chose the Series X for Game Pass. Zero regrets so far.

[@kenshigo3833]

Sorry but with the S doesn´t look futureproof at all.

[@Agamemnon2]

The only one caveat about the Series S I'd have is that buying an extra storage card makes it more expensive than the Series X, which comes with 1 terabyte of storage already.

[@vulcan4d]

I hope they will clock it higher and enable all 24cus. That will get us closer to the 6tflops of the Xbox x

[@hugedeal8611]

I am beyond impressed with the series X, it’s completely transformed gaming for me, I never want to game without quick resume again