XBox Smash - The Microsoft Fighting Game - Build the Roster

[@gryphon885]

Fun fact about Ori, they're already in a Platform Fighter! They're a guest character in Rivals of Aether! So that's another moveset pre-made for you.

[@dragonleo_lemon7184]

i was actually pretty surprised he didnt mention rivals, its such a good game

[@ryanfriscia1132]

Welp, I'd say Chai from Hi Fi Rush has earned a spot after less than a day of existing

[@johnybarrera9973]

Totally agree

[@sebastianguerrero6617]

It's alright I guess

[@XVINutkabob]

@@sebastianguerrero6617shut up Paul /ref

[@maturechimp1219]

Yep. Definitely would be an amazing character to play as. But technical and hard to master with the whole music thing

[@bungieman2810]

Well that's not gonna happen considering the studio got nuked by Microsoft.

[@megamarsonic]

22:28 Quick correction: Zitz is the leader of the Battletoads. Rash is closer to being the team’s mascot.

[@2-Way_Intersection]

zitz is the brains, rash has the charisma

[@InvaderIceStrike]

They just announced and released a brand new Bethesda game called Hi-Fi Rush today. It’s got such a cool style! The main character attacks to the beat of the music with a magnetized scrap-metal guitar! Maybe would’ve made for a good dlc character for your vid has it been public knowledge earlier.

[@Blixir]

That'd be sick, if he actually worked like he does in the game and attacks to the beat they could add a rock remix for every song to keep the BPM the same for all of them so its fair.

[@ИльяМаляр-л3в]

Pre-order bonus: Chai

[@JoaoSilva-nx7ql]

Honestly. If this video was made just a month later Chai would totally be in this Build the Roster. Heck, I’d even put Korsica as DLC for it.

[@shadowclaw7210]

Little bit late. But imagine if he could summons his friends for specials. Making him summon fighter. Also we totally need to make half of his colours reference to his friends.

[@thedapperdolphin1590]

I know this is about games, but I would unironically enjoy seeing Clippy as a playable character in Microsoft Smash. He would be the ultimate WTF character. He has a decent amount of moveset potential too. He transformed into various objects for his animations, which could be moves. He could also use features from Microsoft office programs. For example, his up special could be a teleport where he cuts and pasts himself

[@lemlgramen]

Or even better/funnier make him the ultimate villain like in PlayStation All-star Battle Royale

[@omacacohipinotico3050]

@@lemlgramen YES PLEASE

[@royb5820]

Would obviously only be good if he had a gun

[@psicopato2460]

​@@royb5820and then, for his final smash, he TURNS INTO A GUN

[@royb5820]

@@psicopato2460 now you’re talking!

[@billyweed835]

I was fully expecting the Vault Boy. He's in Smash as a Mii costume, and he is the mascot of the franchise. And there's stuff you could use for his moveset: Zap guns, have him summon Dogmeat, pull out his jetpack or set a landmine. Oh, for his Final Smash, maybe have it so a nuke straight up drops on the stage, with VB cowering in a nearby Vault as the other fighters get hit by the Big One.

[@silentgamer4556]

He did add vault boy

[@gabrielnader1099]

He Should Be Smash 6 As A New Character

[@Tortasdepeptobismol]

As a mr game and watch

[@PopeBrandonBrownson]

I'm an hour and a half before the premiere, and I just wanna say that Blinx the Cat BETTER not get snubbed or I will.... probably still smash that like button and enjoy the video, but I'll leave a reply to this comment where I will delicately RAZZ you, good sir!

[@CannotFathomOverMyself]

And look what he said in the premiere.

[@mdalsted]

Abra-cadabra, you got your wish!

[@HOMERISNAKEY]

Bro has the genie lamp

[@brytilaar]

I wanted Voodoo Vince in this game.

[@acemcwolf5445]

As a bonus for the SoT pirates, Have them not only bring their pirates from the game, But as their ships for the "Final Smash". The idea of the ship you designed, And have spent hours on during your time on the seas, Showing up at such a climactic moment is TOO GOOD to pass up.

[@dragonbornexpress5650]

Sounds sort of like what Sakurai was planning to have for Smash Ultimate before Steve was put into the game; The original concept was to allow players to create their own Minecraft worlds and then they would be transferred into Ultimate. However, as you can imagine, the idea ran into way too many roadblocks, so it was scrapped in favor of preset stages.

[@PlaceHolder994]

For the Dhovakiin you could make the alternate skins some of the other races, let the base skin be a nord and some other be a khajiit, argonian, red guard, dark elve, imperial. And for the ultimate you could make it a bit more cinematic if you had the Dovahkiin absorbing a dragon soul before performing the attack (purely cosmetic).

[@lukedeakin7124]

heck they could even wear different armor sets

[@dragonbornexpress5650]

@@lukedeakin7124. Not out of the realm of possibility; Skyrim has so many different clothing and armor choices.

[@Thedrewster9194]

@@lukedeakin7124 was about to say. Nord could be classes dovahkin armor while the other races use armor that fit their races

[@lukedeakin7124]

@@Thedrewster9194 heck you could even have half be male and half be female

[@Blazegti]

Dovakiin is so op lol

[@LukePS7013]

One character that I’d absolutely LOVE to see in an Xbox platform fighter is the protagonist of Phantom Dust Phantom Dust is a fighting/card hybrid game with similar gameplay to Dissidia Final Fantasy, a major part of the gameplay revolves around building a deck of moves which could be equipped to each of the 4 face buttons during the match. I could see that being implemented by giving each special their own small deck which shuffles to a different move every time you use it.

[@369destroyer]

Glad I wasnt alone hoping for this. Btw for those curious ITS FREE TO PLAY WITOUT MICROTRANSACTIONS

[@Nathan-rb3qp]

I would love a build the roster for a KOF style Disney fighting game.

[@dougtheghoul2845]

Yeah. An entire KZbin channel is dedicated to a Disney what if smash bros game. But Disney king of fighters? Definitely would be interesting way to mix it up.

[@Nathan-rb3qp]

@@dougtheghoul2845I love Smash Bros but the platform fighter market has just gotten way too oversaturated.

[@MIrfanPerdana]

@@Nathan-rb3qp That's because everyone's trying to ape Smash Bros. instead of trying their own things. Tbf the Smash format is such an easy way to cross over multiple iconic properties (and thus get that $$$ flowing)...

[@elkovubenitez135]

Some team ideas: Team Pride Lands with Simba, Timon and Pumba Team Fantasia with Ben Ali Gator and two other random Fantasia characters (maybe a magic broom) Team Mythos with Aladdin, Hércules and Arthur

[@Devlerbat]

@@dougtheghoul2845 That channel seems to limit only to things directly under the Disney license rather than everything Disney owns. Personally, I think a Disney platform fighter would actually be better off copying MultiVersus. I realize that channel also made a Disney MultiVerusus video, but I think Thorgi could make a more extensive one and explore more with the concept. Especially since they didn't really include any wierd picks imo and limited it to only characters that could fight in their own franchises (even though MultiVersus has Velma in it).

[@ML1399TheyStoleMyName]

For a hypothetical 3rd Season I'd love to see the protagonist of Sunset Overdrive and Shu from Blue Dragon. Actually, you could probably include all the party members from Blue Dragon as alternate colors for the same character, since they'd all probably just be puppet fighters except the puppet is a giant blue monster that comes from their shadow

[@Volvagia1927]

Not many games get third seasons. A sequel would be more likely. But if one were to happen? Voodoo Vince, Yuri Lowell and Rita Mordio (Fighting Game Roster Announcement as the first Video Game Character Coming Out Party? A guy can hope.) for the cartoon side and The Blazkowicz Daughters, Sabrewulf and Sebastian Castellanos for the realistic/gritty side.

[@maxleon61702]

@@Volvagia1927 my mate, Sonic and Beat would be a must too because of well, back in the 2000s, SEGA and Microsoft had a good friendship of sorts to help the Xbox brand become more popular in Japan. If we want that to work in an even bigger level, then we gotta do something for the Japanese fans.

[@Volvagia1927]

​@@maxleon61702 Sega/Microsoft was, unfortunately, a MASSIVE commercial failure that lasted...a year? And produced just TWO games? NEITHER company is going to want to remind people "Oh, yeah, our partnership killed Jet Set Radio AND Panzer Dragoon, which should have gone to Nintendo and Sony respectively." The, also ultimately a failure, if not as much of one, JRPG market push, at least, was a story that spanned most of the Xbox 360 console?

[@maxleon61702]

@@Volvagia1927 my mate, you got some points. That being said, the plans would've been better with a lot of good marketing and stuff.

[@acemcwolf5445]

Small problem, SSOD belongs to Insomniac, Who is now owned by Play Station. Hell, Even in the newest Ratchet & Clank game there's a weapon called the RYNO, It shows up in a new form each game and is the game's super powerful post game nuke. In Rift Apart, It opens a wormhole that drops something before it explodes, Some of these things are cameos to other PS IPs, This includes Sly Cooper, Jak & Daxter and... Fizzy from Sunset Overdrive. Basically cementing that, Unless Xbox can cut a deal with Play Station in a similar vain to Banjo and Kazooie for Smash, It's not happening.

[@toexplainlater7638]

I Audibly Cheered for Eddie Riggs in the DLC!! I friggin' love Brutal Legend, and he's also my pick for a guest character in the next KI Edit: Also Twisted Pixel was pretty big for XBLA service in the 360 era, I think if they were to get any rep in a game like this it would be either 'Splosion Man, or my personal pic Captain Smiley from Comic Jumper, the stage possibilities alone would be fun

[@1505627]

When you brought up BJ and Doom Guy's connection, my mind went to Commander Keen, who is also supposed to be somewhere in that family tree. And from there I thought about that Commander Keen Mobile game, and from there I thought "Hmm, Mobile Game Smash"

[@gagejohnathan9641]

I think it's mentioned somewhere that Keen is Doom guys Dad

[@soapkingIII]

If this becomes real (somehow) we need gingerbrave (from cookie run kingdom) in the roster

[@TheRealDoomSlayer214]

3 iconic ID guys

[@Treydemark]

Funny that this comes out before Hi-Fi came out, which gave us a very unique Bethesda character that would make for a perfect platform fighter.

[@reececollins9212]

He would been great for the roster if he wasn’t revealed today

[@TheSuperSmashBros01]

7:57 Master Chief (Halo) 10:02 Noble 6 (Halo) 11:47 The Arbiter (Halo) 13:26 Marcus Fenix (Gears of War) 15:20 Augustus Cole (Gears of War) 15:35 Kait Diaz (Gears of War) 17:18 Steve (Minecraft) 18:41 Alex (Minecraft) 19:38 Banjo & Kazooie 21:50 Rash (Battletoads) 23:04 Fulgore (Killer Instinct) 25:02 Orchid (Killer Instinct) 26:15 Joanna Dark (Perfect Dark) 27:40 Pirates (Sea of Thieves) 29:54 Doom Slayer (DOOM) 31:55 Dovahkinn (The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim) 33:15 Colt (Death Loop) 35:15 Julianna (Death Loop) 35:51 Vault Boy (Fallout) 38:10 Raz (Psychonauts) 39:30 Sparrow (Fable II) 41:32 Ryu Hayabusa (Ninja Gaiden) 42:58 Ori 44:53 Blinx the TimeSweeper 48:14 Stages DLC Season 1 57:44 Corvo Attano (Dishonored) 58:51 BJ Blaskowicz (Wolfenstein) 59:41 Conker (Conker’s Bad Fur Day) 1:00:20 Parvati (Outer World) 1:00:54 Eddie Riggs (Brutal Legend) 1:01:25 Cuphead DLC Season 2 1:02:51 Atriox (Halo) 1:03:54 Queen Myrrah (Gears of War) 1:04:36 Davoth (DOOM) 1:05:13 Gruntilda (Banjo-Kazooie) 1:05:46 Jack of Blades (Fable) 1:06:22 Hisako (Killer Instinct)

[@gallantblade1825]

Great vid, loving all the ideas. I do agree that the Psychonauts stage being the Milkman Conspiracy would be epic, but there are so many different minds to visit in the series that the Collective Unconscious should be the representing stage, I think. To those that don’t know, there is a machine in the series called the Brain Tumbler, and using it lets you access the Collective Unconscious. This is how you replay earlier levels. So have the stage begin fighting on a giant brain, with various doors in the background. After some time, a door opens, transforming into a different stage. Looking at the other stages and characters in the roster, the best most unique minds would have to be the aforementioned Milkman Conspiracy, the Meat Circus, Hollis’ Hot Streak, and and Psi-King’s Sensorium. And I think Lily could work as a Razputin echo fighter, just make sure her pyrokinesis is utterly powerful.

[@Triforce_of_Doom]

My big personal "I want" stage for Psychonauts would be Black Velvetopeia because I just love the aesthetic too much & seeing it fully upgraded to HD would be glorious.

[@Cruzer108]

If we can actually get Eddie riggs and have him voiced by Jack black thatd be insane

[@talion4033]

Another Brütal Legend fan!

[@originaluseername]

“insane” oh you mean the term that stigmatizes mental illnesses???

[@wherehog5090]

While the game did not sell well, I feel Kameo would be a perfect pick for a fighter in this kind of a game, maybe as a weird pick for the end of a DLC season. Her specials oculd be different elemental transformations

[@荼毘í]

Aye Thorgi, please keep the cool dramatic intros for each character you’re saying you’re putting in the game. We love that part.

[@JunkieRemix]

Ok, if Vault Boy is gonna have a spot. For an announcer voice, Cogsworth has to be an option. A robotic British voice announcing the character names would be funny

[@TheKamenrider36]

Nice to see this get picked as the next Build a Roster, I recall a name idea for this being X-Brawlers or maybe Cross-Brawlers IDK it was long ago. For character ideas: - Kasumi: a second character to give DOA some rep, she is the character many think of when people think of DOA, plus making an alternate costume based on the beach volleyball attire would be a bonus. - Shu from Blue Dragon, here's an out there choice but it does count since the first game was exclusive to the 360 plus it adds some variety to not have the game mostly be full of western IPs. - Dark Queen, a bit self explanatory since more villains would be neat and who better than the big bad from Battletoads. - Gargos, another villain rep though he is also to represent KI2 since the others are from the first and recent game, plus the variety of moves could be neat to see translated like summoning minions and teleporting. - Chell from Portal, was thinking about which Valve character would be neat and picked one that would be different than just the standard shooter, plus Portal did appear in the xbox first (along with PC) so it somewhat counts. - Lara Croft, for a guest character I went with a character that could be their answer to Nathan Drake, a bit cheating since it appeared in different consoles although there was Rise of Tomb Raider which was a timed exclusive to the xbox

[@AsherX9]

For Rash, I’d say to give Zitz and Pimple the Color Swap treatment and make their body alterations look different. It’d be really cool!

[@MookalH]

CHAI! CHAI! CHAI! CHAI! Imagine a platform fighter character whose attacks all sync to whatever song is playing. Chai would birth a new kind of matchup based on the stage's music. Like, imagine you hear Rip and Tear starting up and looking over at your opponent pissing their pants because you're playing as Chai.

[@jmurray1110]

Unfortunately I don’t think that’s a great idea in practice It sounds amazing but imagine trying to play them while death or even if you can’t have the background music on at the time

[@omegamorph8211]

If I were to have more guest characters I would like Frank West and any characters that Valve would allow. As far as more oddball stages; maybe some based off Fusion Frenzy, Kinect Adventures, and some of Rare's old Spectrum games.

[@kingofgames2992]

I would also throw out the guy from mass effect or titainfall. This will definitely be a weird suggestion but I would throw out the guy from ROBLOX. ROBLOX has been console exclusive to xbox for years now and it could be a huge get in terms of promoting xbox smash considering how ROBLOX was and still is

[@defnotaiden846]

Personally as a fun joke fighter with Xbox ties, I was thinking liberty prime. Maybe not as much as a joke as other but with iron giant in multiverses (and Godzilla maybe joining him) it would be amazing to have that dynamic of the short and tall one, like ig has in multi with gizmo, have Lb be a counterpart to ori in that sense Edit: made more sense for the second fighter to be more well known, maybe have one of the more famous super mutants or codworths Btw fallout is my fave franchise of all time so I care a lot for it

[@amosdeguzman9980]

Dead Rising was a pretty popular Xbox 360 game, so that would make sense.

[@bernardpoupart]

@@amosdeguzman9980 Dead Rising 3 is still an Xbox console exclusive until this day, xbox games studios is the publisher

[@shadowclaw7210]

@@defnotaiden846 Godzilla wouldn’t work.

[@RychuAlolan]

One of my favorite parts of this series is thorgi feeling the need to over-explain himself on literally the most obvious pick from a series (vault boy) but somehow deciding to make one of the echo fighters a character from a decently popular game that isn't being talked about any more

[@patricklawson]

Thank you Arron I owe a boost in my productivity to you.

[@GND_Aaron]

12:53 Arbiter in Killer Instinct is also voiced by Ray Chase

[@FungiGamer]

I’m so glad you waited on this, this went even better than expected!!! I would also add Mumbo, if not as a transforming character then at the very least as the character that you unlock new costumes or skins from

[@Ragiroth]

He could have the evil robot version of him as an alt

[@pokebrawler416]

Me: Aight this list is ok nothing too surprising Him later: Clippy will make an appearance Me: ‘GENUINE HAPPINESS”

[@galaxycamerata]

Notes: For Noble Team, I would say give Noble Six Jun, Kat, Emile and Carter as skins, and then make Jorge a skin for Chief. Since they're both second-gen Spartans, meaning they are enormous lads compared to first, third and fourth gen Spartans, this frees up Jorge to be about as big as he should be without the hitboxes being weird. For a stage, imagine a rare easter egg where you see an event from Red vs Blue play out in the background like Simmons, Grif and Donut pinning down Tucker and Church as Caboose rides in with Shiela. If Blinx ends up being the major character to bring this together, imagine how he'd handle Colt and Julianna being so flagrantly disrespectful of the flow of time. Or just the character interactions in general, like Raz feeling a weird bit of pity from the closed off, lonely vibes Chief gives off, Rash recognizing Arbiter and realizing that was a different guy, causing Thel to question just how experienced Rash would have to be to have fought an Arbiter before and survived, Cortana seeing Doomguy and joking that she's finally found someone who makes Chief look like a chatterbox in comparison, and the obligatory triple shot of Chief, Fenix and Doomguy Since a major thing about the Doom Slayer is that he knows EXACTLY how rough he needs to be to get things done, I would say have his Glory Kill command grab change based on the general scale of violence in the opponent's home series. He still probably wouldn't rip people to shreds, but I imagine the scale would be something like: Cartoony slapstick (Banjo, Raz, Ori, Minecraft, Blinx): Smashes them around cartoonishly, then tosses them into the ground for the KO. Flashy but subtly brutal (Sea of Thieves, Killer Instinct characters, Halo characters, Rash, Sparrow, Joanna): Throws them to the ground, straddles them and punches their face in, final big punch gives the KO. Bloody Mess (Deathloop, Gears, Dragonborn, Ryu, Vault Boy, other Doom Slayer ): Actively, audibly breaking limbs, then snaps their neck for the KO. As for the Gravemind... I can see that being an arcade mode final boss. Imagine the stage taking place on High Charity, with the loading screen showing a very familiar pestilent green overtaking the graphics. When the game finally loads in, your character is wandering a twisted, fleshy corridor with Human, Elite and Brute Combat Forms... not attacking. Just guiding you to the final chamber. As they're made to get on an elevator, a series of tendrils assemble a makeshift, randomized arena. And then you hear a single, booming voice as a large, hideous THING emerges from the shadows. And of course, it has its own things to say; "AGAIN, THE GATE HAS BEEN UNLATCHED, HEADSTONES PUSHED ASIDE. CORPSES SHIFT AND OFFER ROOM... A FATE YOU MUST ABIDE." - General purpose line. "THIS ONE IS MACHINE AND NERVE, AND HAS ITS THOUGHTS CONCLUDED. TWISTED BY THE SHAPE OF WAR THROUGH WHICH IT'S BEEN EXTRUDED." - Vs Master Chief. "THOUGH PIOUS THOUGHTS GAVE COMFORT ONCE, IT FINDS ITSELF SECLUDED. THIS ONE IS BUT FLESH AND FAITH AND IS ALL THE MORE DELUDED." - Vs Arbiter Story wise I can see it being a final loose end to tie up. The initial time-space twisting that Blinx was investigating reached out into the timespan of Halo 3 and gave it a chance to lash things together by acting as a wedge in the door that keeps the portals from properly closing. And it has thematic ties to pretty much every character, even ones not from Halo. It's a creature that defies time and space like those Blinx fights, can come back from death as if nothing ever happened like Colt and Julianna, could easily be confused for a Daedric Prince or greater Demon, is an overwhelming physical force like the Locust or Lambent as well as a dangerously powerful psychic like Maligula, creates genetic abominations like the FE Virus, and it even speaks in rhyme and taunts you throughout the game like Gruntilda.

[@BestgirlJordanfish]

Because of these genres of origin, I almost think a third person arena fighter could be a decent direction for a Microsoft crossover fighter, with something like a Multiversus custom badge equip system. Also my dream stage would be Microsoft Paint.

[@shadowclaw7210]

Like Heroes of The Storm? But not abandoned?

[@BigFresh37]

@@shadowclaw7210I think they mean more like Power Stone since they said “fighter”. And I agree.

[@googleguy-ft8xh]

Something like power stone meets battleborn meets gears of war.

[@HattingtonVi]

Honestly I would love to see the Knights from Castle Crashers appear as dlc. I have good memories playing that game with friends on the 360 arcade

[@shadowclaw7210]

I think only problem I could see. Which one we include. It be hard, because all of them, kinda have different stats. Will we then pull Belmont? Like put all their moveset into one character, witj colours being rest of knights.

[@googleguy-ft8xh]

All four of them. Pokemon trainer style. Or maybe you play as the red night and summon the other three?

[@Genowhirl910]

The only thing I would REALLY want added to this, like life or death i NEED it. Would be Shu from Blue Dragon. Just the fact that you used a clip from it for like 2 seconds made me so happy

[@jmurray1110]

It was a great game and was the first time an RPG really grabbed me Though I only found it years later in my uncles collection bd wasn’t Abke to beat it

[@erikferal]

"Raz goes into Doomslayer's head, and it's just a village full of bunny people." I gotta draw this fanart now!! Also, for the title... just call it XMash. Both as a pun on a bunch of Xbox characters mashed together AND mashing the X button to do combo! Also, I want Roxas to be the final DLC fighter. As Kingdom Hearts was ported to Xbox, and Roxas is literally just Sora with X.

[@MIrfanPerdana]

Oh, I *love* XMash! What wonderful wordplay, and way wittier than what I was wondering (which was SmashBox 😆)!

[@PlatyNews]

Happy that Clippy was remembered. And yeah Blinx would be awesome considering the little we have of time powers in platform fighters (like bayo's counter). Nine (10 if you count vault boy) people with "uses a gun" fighting styles on the base roseter as a moveset would require a LOT on the creativity of the design of this game xD

[@GurrenPrime]

Glad to be able to watch this early. I probably won’t be able to catch the normal premiere, so the Patreon sub is already coming in handy.

[@theboulder027]

What's this? People still remember brutal legend? That was one of my favorites back in the day. Respect, thorgi.

[@hardroar368]

Arbiter in KI is the same guy from 2 and 3 and it’s based on his appearance in halo 5 guardians. Fun fact!

[@saorlathesurly]

There apparently was some official statement that he's not Thel... but the monologue he has in his intro has him specifically talk about him doing things that Thel has done ("I have faced the Flood and silenced Truth..."), so honestly that should just be disregarded, as far as what's in the final product, it's very clearly meant to be Thel. It might've just been to try and rationalize why he isn't being played by Keith David, but other side media has had Thel not be played by him either, so it's fine.

[@msgameandcake628]

Nintendo's Anime Swordfighters have finally found a match with Microsoft's Grizzly Shootymen Also, Raz enters Cuphead's mind, and gets dunked like a cookie into whatever liquid is in his head.

[@boogonzalez24]

I refuse to believe it’s already been a year since the last one of these

[@B3N_Youtube]

Damn it, it only he waited a week after the dev direct so we can have Chai from Hi-Fi Rush in. -3-

[@Kirabetas]

Another fun assist trophy could be 'Splosion/Miss 'Splosion Man. Just runs around the screen, blowing up to double jump around and cause more explosions. Heck, make one of the stages the labs, have scientists running around, a window showing the background with the occasional explosion or other easter egg running past. Damn, never thought I'd ever think about 'Splosion Man again.

[@merchantziro4285]

30:18 Actually wait. This gave me a hilarious idea for a Todd Howard Assist Trophy (or whatever the counterpart would be called) When he appears the game itself starts to "bug out" as all characters suffer from random side effects with a chance to be either positive or negative or something completely harmless. For example in a 4 player free for all, Player 1 could be clipping through the ground and thus must grab the ledge or stand on thinner platforms to survive, meanwhile Player 2 is stuck in airborne state and flies around but can only use attacks they can use in the air, and Player 3's character is lagging around and existing in multiple areas at once among other things probably, while finally Player 4 seems to be the only player who is unaffected other than just changing their skin to random one. All the while as Todd Howard given a variety of different speeches to try and distract you from your suffering, all while a bar that says you're downloading a patch appears at the bottom of the screen and it shows how long these effects will be given to you before it's completed and Todd Howard leaves.

[@Void0602]

I didn’t know I wanted this but with this channel you have to expect the unexpected

[@Chasewickb97]

Phenomenal list man! I know it probably won’t happen, but I hope some Xbox executive sees this and decides to try and make it happen, it would be awesome!!!

[@kbtvstudios9528]

Loved the series thus far, and Microsoft probably has the one of the biggest roster of characters and IPs to choose from (of the remaining companies you haven’t done yet)

[@kingofgames2992]

I mean, unless he does one for the next smash lol, but besides that Possibility...yeah (escpecially with the recent acquisitions)

[@thedapperdolphin1590]

I think Capcom could beat out most companies if they did a Smash clone or versus style game. They have so many great IPs to pull from, even if they don’t actively use many of them. I’d say they’re up there with Sega even. Otherwise, Bandai-Namco could put together a decent roster. Not sure how many other gaming companies could pull something off on their own. Maybe Square and Konami, but they’re not at the same level.

[@danherondraws]

aww yeah, my favorite series is back! And with a rooster that caught me by surprise. Now to see what obscure Xbox series you manage to find to fill in the seats X3

[@xtoadsannom6704]

One should always be wary of roosters. One moment they're 4 meters away on the ground, the next they're clawing at your face with their talons and trying to peck your eyes out!

[@danherondraws]

@@xtoadsannom6704 as long as they are under 20 characters. SOmething like Smash's rooster just can't get off the ground with all that many characters weighting it down

[@rogue_2k374]

Me and a friend of mine actually tried to brainstorm what this kind of roster would be like. Nice to see I’m not the only one to think that Microsoft could have one as well.

[@wanderlustwarrior]

58:58 Well that's your title right there. "Bang Bang Shooty Men" is the perfect name for an Xbox crossover.

[@fearanger1]

BLESS YOU FOR THE FABLE REP, and of 2 AND Jack of Blades?! Such absolutely wonderful taste, and as somebody who grew up as a kid playing my brother's Xbox with Fable, I really connected with your reasoning. Hell, Fable II is what made me fall in love with the Xbox 360 in the first place!

[@barrysmith4610]

This was Awesome great job Thorgi. If not a Smash clone I would love for most of these characters to show up in the next KI as guest characters

[@DeathAlchemist]

Good video as always. Btw if you want an odd pick for the focus of another build the roster, Dengeki Bunko Fighting Climax sequel

[@Apmix_YT]

It's that time of the year! New smash build the roster! Crossing my fingers for a Capcom Smash

[@SakuraHarumin]

15:24 i was genuinely expecting the carmine family, as they can all be different costumes with their masks, you just change the armor and leave it at that

[@kilowyatt1107]

real fun fact, since zenimax owns bethesda and id, they did actually thought at one point to add the dovakin to quake champions but the idea was sadly rejected

[@jaz299]

I thought of atleast ten bosses of this hypotheical Smash clone and those being: -The Gravemind (Halo) -The Ender Dragon (Minecraft) -Brumak (Gears Of War) -Mr. Patch (Banjo-Kazooie) -Cyberdemon (Doom) -Rock Troll (Fable) -Alma (Ninja Gaiden) -The Butcher (Psychonuts) -The Great Mighty Poo (Conker) -Chronohorn (Blinx)

[@dragonbornexpress5650]

Ender Dragon is probably one of the most obvious; It's the most Minecraft way to do a traditional RPG boss. (Not an insult in any way; Ender Dragon fight is good.) Could also do a Super Mutant Behemoth from the Fallout games since that is sort of meant to be a boss equivalent, a boss monster from Lost Odyssey, or one of Chai's friends from Hi-Fi Rush since you already had to fight them.

[@Meddadius]

Xbash. You could’ve called this Xbash. It was right there, man. It’s fine, though, we all fall short of perfection.

[@guhbruhmaste4557]

I genuinely think either the endermen or the creeper would make an interesting fighter. Endermen would have teleportation based attacks, and creeper would be a glass cannon that deals high damage but inflicts self harm. Like a pichu strapped with dynamite

[@sonally5626]

The creeper seems more of an assist character if you ask me. They’re pretty much Minecraft’s one-trick pony; they creep up on you, then explode, that’s it.

[@dragonbornexpress5650]

@@sonally5626 Perfect for an Assist Trophy, especially one that can catch enemies off guard during combos.

[@durzoblint6532]

Idea for a final smash for the Ki characters. Have their final smash be their respective Ultra combos from 2013 reboot, but like the 2013 version of ultra combos, have the music that plays over it match the theme of the level. Imagine fulgores UC matching with the banjo music sounds.

[@TheOldest]

You teased Brutus, I almost thought Brute Force was gonna get some recognition. Honestly though great list and great video. 👍

[@thorodinson1064]

Excellent video as usual 👏 Maybe next year you could do an Arcade smash? Made up of classic arcade franchises

[@CyberRed64]

This is for an assist trophy idea, the party animals from Party Animals. There would be at least 4 of them walking around punching and throwing objects at players or just scratching their butt for the full time.

[@jeremybutler9289]

I do think lost odyssey and blue dragon would be good inclusions but I am super impressed with the list you came up with. I want this Blizzard deal to go through specifically just for the roster boost for this hypothetical game lol

[@ThatSpecialNobody]

This is insane, I was watching your PlayStation All-Stars video about a week ago and wondering when/if you'd make this video

[@piecheese1214]

How could you NOT add Samuel Hayden and/or VEGA as an unlockable announcer? Hayden could even have a special line for when the Icon of Sin stage is selected, saying "Final Sin. Hurry, the longer the Icon of Sin is on Earth, the stronger it becomes." Also, does Destiny count as Microsoft franchise? It _is_ made by Bungie, after all, and Cayde-6 would be perfect for this!

[@dragonbornexpress5650]

No, Destiny isn't counted as Microsoft.

[@hoodies5life43]

Remember watching you years ago, glad you popped up in my recommended

[@greninjaboy2394]

Microsoft has completed its acquisition of Activision Blizzard as of today, so I think it would be a perfect time to add in another DLC based around these properties: Crash Bandicoot(w Coco Echo Fighter)(Crash Bandicoot Series) Spyro(Spyro Series) John Prince(w John "Soap" MacTavish Echo Fighter)(Call of Duty) Tracer(Overwatch) Diablo(Diablo Series) Thrall(World of Warcraft) And one of the stages has to be from the Candy Crush Series Considered Characters: Trigger Happy(Skylanders) LEROOOOOY JEEEEENKIIIIINS(World of Warcraft)

[@negagator3456]

I honestly feel like a mobile game Smash variant would be awesome. There are a shocking number of fighters to pick from, most of which have some cool move potential.

[@ThatKaitoDan]

Surprised Yuri Lowell from Tales of Vesperia wasn't included. That game was probably the biggest JRPG hit on the 360 and while it did also come out on PS3, it was JP exclusive, not coming to the west till the definitive edition in 2019. Even with the Xbox consoles not being as strongly played in Japan as in the west, surely adding a big name JRPG series would attract some eyes to this game plus a Tales rep is perfect for a platform fighter with the series' emphasis on comboing into special moves in a free-roaming area, with Yuri being the obvious pick not just cause he's the protag but he's one of the few Tales characters so popular he's banned from series character polls after winning so many.

[@jjenk911]

Great video, Aaron. Keep up the good work.

[@christianshark6678]

Considering this roster excluded ActiBlizz characters due to the buyout not happening yet, these were overall some great picks. To quickly list off some characters form ActiBlizz that would’ve worked: - Arthas is one of the most popular Warcraft villains & characters so him alongside any other important NPCs would make a lot of sense - Crash & Spyro are very obvious picks for this kind of game especially since they’ve been requested for normal Smash Bros. for years - Tracer is the obvious Overwatch pick but Genji & D. Va are are two characters that are as if it more popular so any combination of those three would work - I also don’t know much about COD but I know enough to know Ghost is the most iconic protag so having him be the main fighter while like three other popular character serve as costumes makes sense.

[@georgie9303]

I would include Kerrigan and Nova from StarCraft as well.

[@gagejohnathan9641]

The most iconic Protagonists of cod thus far: Soap Dimitri Roach and Ramirez Alex Mason and Reznov Price, Frost and Yuri David Mason E3N (EF) And Ghost (I'm counting e3n as a echo fighter because of him being a robot, So he can be more defense based, being more metallic, while the rest are different skins of Ghost, and being flesh, are more offense than defense.

[@emanuelrobri8452]

I would like to have reaper from black ops 3 and 4 as a fighter. Hell if you have enough KO’s while you still alive you can summon a nuke ending the match instantly.

[@themysteriousstrangerthatd8508]

Here’s my hypothetical season 3 for this hypothetical game: Stubbs the Zombie President Micheal Wilson Frank West(Nick Ramos Echo) Big Daddy Riptor Sebastian Castellanos

[@TheBazaarBetweenRealms]

A character that would be an absolute treat to see, and would effectively be a massive wildcard, would be the protagonist from the cancelled xbox exclusive Scalebound. It was made by Platinum and he had a dragon sidekick, that's all I need to say really. Plus it would be great to see something from Scalebound actually make it to see the light of day.

[@LuminantLion]

Grizzled gun dudes would definitely be this game's "Oh good, another anime swordfighter"

[@JEZ346]

I was expecting Commander Keen as an out of nowhere pick.

[@adamnakamura8003]

That last bit with Clippy made me think of him being the inaudible default guy for menus (and we could just get a generic announcer for battles and character select) and you can unlock Cortana after Master Chief’s arcade mode. Clippy would be more generic about how the menus work, Cortana would have a little more personality by suggestions for different modes, Mumbo Jumbo (complete with Banjo speak) would be make hilarious remarks about some modes, Ford can make similarly hilarious but unique remarks for variety with your comedy, and have the KI announcer be paired with ARIA for the menu help.

[@destroyerbreaker7394]

Still have not seen the video, but when he talks about tradition it just makes me want a sequel to some videos...a new Indie Fighting game roster would be awesome.

[@soul4speech]

I lost hope that you were going to add the TimeSweeper, but holy shit, THAT WAS HYPE. That's the first character that comes to mind when I think of an Xbox Smash game, Master Chief comes second, heh.

[@Lam_Fran]

Really unfortunate this video just missed the announcement and release of hifi rush, Chai would've been a great addition to the wackier side of characters

[@dragonbornexpress5650]

Seriously. The dude literally comes from a rhythm hack and slash game that is way over the top.

[@ElionMars]

Me the whole episode: "DishonoredCorvoDishonoredCorvoDishonoredCorvo-" Thorgi: "And here's a stage for Dishonored!" Me: "Oh, that's pretty cool, I guess." Thorgi: *First DLC is Dishonored* Me: YOU HEARD MY PRAYERS!

[@instinctive3066]

This is an awesome idea & want to see more

[@shajita]

Hi. Great vid, fun time, I hope you reach your goals. But as a Halo fan with entirely too much free time, I think I need to set some records straight, because Chief is not a keepaway character. While Halo is a shooter, the in-canon Chief is far from a long-range fighter. He wields the Mjolnir armor, which has a regeneratable shield, so naturally tanking fire while going in is trivial for him. Without the armor, he can deadlift 500kgs. With armor, 5 ton. This is even shown in gameplay, as he is able to flip tanks with ease. He is also able to run 106 kilometers an hour (likely more) and dodge bullets on reaction. His reaction time is further enhanced if he's linked with an AI. He is also highly proficient with every weapon and vehicle, so the Brute stable, the Gravity Hammer, and the UNSC ATV Mongoose could be used in his moveset as well. Chief, by all accounts, is a superhuman brawler. He's Captain America but dressed in shield, with the guns mostly just being used to save him the time of physically moving over to every enemy he takes down. And while I understand that Halo is a shooter, I think that's being ever so slightly reductive. Because Halo didn't take off for being a shooter, it took off for unifying complex actions into simple commands, on a game pad. Chief, unlike many FPS protagonists of his day, is never in "gun" mode. He's always running, jumping, shooting, throwing grenades, jumping into and off of vehicles and punching, smoothly utilizing every tool in the arsenal. A proper Halo representation, and a good frontcover character for XSmash, would include all of these qualities. Now, I do like the idea of a UNSC fighter utilizing SMGs, battle riffles, snipers and shotguns, and that's where I'm gonna cheat and throw in one more character. Buck, from ODST. He's a Spartan now but nevermind that. ODSTs, unlike the superhuman Spartans, are just regular dudes who have to be clever and cooperative to get the job done. Their main-gimmick is that they're sent in behind enemy lines in drop pods, hence the title Orbital Drop Shock Trooper. Buck was one of the central characters in Halo ODST, surrounded by a team of experts in various fields, like a sniper, gunner and explosives expert. Letting Romeo take sniper shots from off-screen, have Mikey run over the stage on a Mongoose and drop a bomb on the way, and Dutch drop in a pod to spread some lead, could give us the keepaway Halo character, while acknowledging a highly beloved spin-off game. Sorry this got very long. I'm a big Xbox fan so it was great to see you tackle it, even if it is somewhat out of your wheelhouse. There were some genuinely inspired picks here. I think I'd probably drop Orchid for Hisako or ARIA, just for the KI representatives to have one foot in the past and one in the present, but I understand Orchids importance. And thanks for including Nuts and Bolts Banjo as a skin. You'll see me tearing up Xbox Live with that thing on, as the one fan of that game. Here's hoping something like this eventually comes out, alongside Perfect Dark and Fable.

[@Freelancer837]

Yeah, Chief being a zoner is just really dumb. It seems this guy basically just knows Rare games only

[@dragonbornexpress5650]

@@Freelancer837. A very strange conclusion to make.

[@PlayrR3D156]

Ori would fit right in since they've been in Rivals of Aether. Size isn't much of an issue because Kirby and Olimar are pretty much the size of jelly beans. Also, I would love to see a fighting game for Transformers.

[@shadowclaw7210]

Transformers have lots of iconic characters. A different versions. Cartoons, comics, movies and games.

[@HolyNamed]

I would die if a fighting game came out with doomslayer and kratos

[@mr.brickking8885]

Killer Instinct is awesome. I played it so much.

[@matthewgreggtoto]

The story should just be Rasputin going through all the character's minds. I would buy that game.

[@jubisisters]

I really thought you were leading into the Weird Pick being Clippy. Blinx never really struck me as that weird of a pick, in comparison.

[@Devlerbat]

Honestly, I would have considered Vault Boy to be a weirder pick than Blinx. Personally, I would have gone with Cogsworth as the Fallout rep. It both leads you away from just humans with guns while also having the rep be one of the companions. Plus, he is the only companion that I, a person that has never actually played Fallout, have stick out in their memory so I imagine he is pretty popular. On the other hand, I have never played Fallout. So, what do I know?

[@kahjunn9427]

Another interesting idea I have is a PC/Steam equivalent, there will be 18 characters and so far I've come up with 11 spots -Gordon Freeman (Half-Life) -Chell (Portal) -Heavy (TF2) -Pudge (Dota 2) -Jinx (League of Legends) -Gorion's Ward (Baldur's Gate) -Destroyer (Torchlight) -Adol Cristin (Ys) -Arcueid Brunestud (Tsukihime/Melty Blood) -Saber (Fate) -Dani Rojas (Far Cry)

[@thedapperdolphin1590]

I don’t think it would get any representation, but a Jet Force Gemini rep would be great. I feel like Lupus could be a very good weird pick. He’s a dog that rides around in a tank-like mech, which can hover. He could also use a variety of weapons ranging from machine guns, to flamethrowers, to plasma pistols, to rocket launchers. He’d be a very unique character, and would fit well in a platform fighter.

[@shadowclaw7210]

I would live if their character ending is befriended doomguy.

[@cles0v]

seeing the outline of Blinx made me SO HAPPY!! I loved those games and I never see anything about them

[@JennyBlaze253]

44:55 As someone who has loved this game ever since I was a youngun, I would LOVE for Blinx to be a part of an Xbox Smash game! Seriously, he's perfect for the role! And there's so many things you could do with his moveset!!

[@bobjeezorham7658]

I'm a simple man: I see Battletoads in a potential fighting game roster, I hit like. Personally I would've liked if Zitz and Pimple were alts or echoes, but considering that their transformations and play styles are meant to be unique from each other I do think its better to just have them be summoned with some moves. Also, someone else said this, but Zitz is the leader of the Battletoads, Rash is more of the Michelangelo or Raphael (to compare it to the inspiration for the Battletoads) of the group. This is a pretty good roster, I could definitely see them do something similar to this had a Microsoft platform fighter ever happened.

[@RednekGamurz]

I feel like Blood Gulch would probably be a better stage pick than Valhalla. Blood Gulch is simple, but it's very iconic, plus it actually takes place on a Halo ring unlike Valhalla. You could maybe even throw in a RvB easter egg. I feel like Halo could also use an extra stage of some kind. I think a good pick would be High Charity from Halo 2, to show the Covenant side of the series more. Maybe you could even have it where, when match is almost over (either because of time, or it's a last stock situation) the Flood slowly start to take things over in the background, changing the tone of the stage drastically. As far as the character choice for DLC goes, Atriox is probably the best pick. He's probably the most liked villain of the 343-era, and he could be a good contrast compared to the other Halo characters, being a lot more focused on "unga-bunga me smash you with hammer", and less on zoning. The Didact could be a cool fighter moveset-wise, but he's not super well-liked by a good chunk of the fanbase. I'm kinda surprised you didn't think of making the Halo MP announcer unlockable for the menus or something. Jeff Steitzer's performance as the MP announcer is a pretty memorable and beloved part of the Halo series, to the point where fans complained when he wasn't in Halo Infinite's BTB mode at launch, and 343 eventually realized their mistake and added him in later on in a patch. Outside of Halo, I was really hoping to see some sort of Phantom Dust representation on here. Yeah, it's a very niche game, but it's fanbase is super devoted, a lot of higher ups at MS have an immense amount of respect for it, to the point where some say it's the best game on the original Xbox, and a fighter/stage could provide stuff that nothing else in the game could. Alpha (one of many possible names for the player character) could either just have a huge arsenal of spells with tons of variety to them, or you could sorta reference the game's deckbuilding aspect, and make him a create-a-character, sorta like the Mii Fighters in Smash. As for the stage, Plaza is the most well known, and probably most-played map in the original game. You could even have some of the stage be destructible like in the original game. The music could be pretty wild too. It's remixes of classic music, but it's remixed in such a weird, yet amazing sounding way.

[@SpawnofOmega]

Love the series and always eager to see what happens. Honestly, I'd love to see you do a Build the Roster and several different games, including a video game I only recently discovered: D&D Iron and Blood. But in the meantime, fantastic work as always and I'm eager to rewatch this and the retrospectives.

[@HotlineIowaProductions]

I loved this! Maybe next year, you could do a flash smash? Flash games beating the shit out of each other

[@maroonspice9481]

I really like the addition of Parvati

[@tillerman2029]

I can’t believe just showing me a blackened out Blinx is enough to get me laughing my head off

[@smilinjack8568]

A day early, a DAY and we could have speculated Chai from the new Hi-Fi Rush. I LOVE the idea of a fighter who has to fight to the rythem

[@beesbeesbeesbeesbees]

I'll be honest, I would love to see your take on a new DreamMix TV World Fighters! Whilst obviously very obscure, it was a Japan-exclusive platfighter released on the Gamecube and PS2, notable for including characters from Konami, Hudson Soft, and Tomy - meaning it's pretty much the only game ever where Optimus Prime can fight Solid Snake, or where a Moai from Gradius can fight Tyson from Beyblade! Given Konami have since acquired Hudson and Hasbro has since acquired Tomy and Takara, I think it'd be really interesting to see what a Konami vs. Hasbro game could look like in this ilk (and maybe even tossing in a third company to mirror the original, if you really wanted to go wild!)

[@TheSuperSmashBros01]

Or Yuga from Bloody Roar