TEMPO: Free Challenger Jungling Course - Eagz - League of Legends

[@Eagzv9]

1000+ coaching sessions: https:www.patreon.com/eagz

[@rokasb9441]

What an insane video, thank you!

[@chasejefferies-warren9989]

As an Iron III jungler, I found this to be extremely detrimental to my mental health.

[@Mike-mu3fs]

Same, lets just enjoy the game and let all this tryhard bullshit go

[@Flibbytibby]

I wish I was iron III

[@ronaldofan360]

@@Flibbytibbyno u dont, you literally play with disabled players, you could not even imagine how bad players at lvl 30+ could be

[@andreadecapitani4377]

I Just Lost my rank up game and now i Lost 7 games on streak...i have to get Better or my already unstable mental health Is going to be worst

[@masaharu10k]

relax, now that you know jg moreless, try another lane and play around jg

[@ishtihaqtalukder1948]

As a gold top laner I found this really insightful. Didn’t think this much thought went into jungling macro

[@mebum2289]

as a jgler, 90% of jungling is conceptual. you could have the hands of a baby but if you know the theory you'll do fine

[@Infinite_War]

As a jungle main for like 5 years now. I'm acutely aware of how little laners know about what I do or why I do it 😥 if laners knew how important it was for me to cycle my camps they might actually stop taking terrible trades when I'm half way through taking my buffand prepping to gank thwir lane. Honestly, being patient and waiting for your jungler to gank while keeping your opponent engaged to prevent them from warding will win you soo many games you have no idea my friend. ALSO RECOGNIZING WARDING MOVEMENTS AND PINGING VISION TO YOUR JUNGLER.

[@bitfrankie]

I’m GM and his videos still help me a lot!

[@vincentvindevogel2368]

​@@Infinite_War I'm an adc main and most of my map movements and wave manipulation is fully based on where both junglers are, game in unplayable from my role otherwise xD

[@Infinite_War]

@@vincentvindevogel2368 You my friend are playing league correctly. Gold star! However, if it seems unplayable then there is something you are doing incorrectly. 9/10 times it's positional error. I.E. You don't see talon on the minimap and you are standing in vision. Sometimes sitting back and doing nothing is the correct play. By you not being in vision you might not be doing anything, but you are also opening the window for talon to blow his load on a tank throwing the game. Seems counter intuitive, but this way of thinking has completely changed my win rate when playing adc. I call myself a jungle main, but truthfully I have mained every role except mid seriously, and have a base line of familiarity on all champs except like 3 aphelios (Playing him to me feels like doing a Rubik's cube while trying not to die, Katarina because fuck kat players, and qiyana since they nerfed her ability to jungle into the ground and I'm just bad at her.

[@dep7311]

This is the answer for me who full clears and is unable to gank. Now I realize, vision and tempo is important. In a way, you are actively fighting each other without direct confrontation. Very education video. Thank you😊

[@Eagzv9]

that's a really good way of putting it, 'actively fighting each other without direct confrontation'...exactly

[@dreivierabi6314]

Would love more videos in this style. The coachings are amazing but for me this is where the money is at.

[@Eagzv9]

have some more in the pipeline bro stay tuned 😎

[@charsasd7294]

Exacly, i prefer "raw" information.

[@camdenave]

This might be one of the most effective and easy to understand guides on league I've ever watched. Fantastic job simplifying such a complex subject into something this digestible.

[@Eagzv9]

great to hear man thank you

[@conceptor]

effective? 19min.... is effective? effective?!

[@conceptor]

don't ge me wrong tho, video is excellent. but could have been 10min

[@cyberr3446]

Your videos are literally the best jungle content ever. This is exactly what I’ve been wanting . THANK YOU SO MUCH.

[@Eagzv9]

so nice to hear man tyty

[@BrandonSmith-qx8jx]

Give him money then

[@Eagzv9]

hahahaha@@BrandonSmith-qx8jx

[@charsasd7294]

One of the best jungle videos i've ever seen, hat's off. You are the GOAT.

[@Eagzv9]

tysm bro haha

[@denimsurfer4899]

Man, thanks for putting out such valuable content for free. Another Banger, buddy!!

[@Eagzv9]

np denim i got you 👊

[@dayr5314]

Holyyyyy shiiiiit, this is game changing for me thank you, I was really struggling to understand tempo, this is so clear and helpful, appreciate it so much bro

[@dayr5314]

After learning this, I went to watch some videos of others playing and am practicing identifying the tempo in those games 👍🏻

[@gabrielsteffe2651]

This is really insightful and high-quality content that's clear to understand. Thank you so much for making these videos.

[@Eagzv9]

no worries bro glad you found it helpful 🙏

[@G0khancicek]

your videos are getting better by the time coach. more insight/ more in game examples= more understandable and appliable for lower elo players. sad to see that 14k views and not even 1k likes.

[@deluxecsgo3022]

I know what tempo is but sometimes I forget how important and game changing it can be. Good video

[@Poukeli]

you are incredible, ive started lol a week ago and this is so good knowing lol is gonna be my next game to get good in

[@Eagzv9]

thanks man haha

[@Delafeen]

i always thought tempo was clearing you camps right when they spawn until you get fed, never knew what defensive or offensive tempo was! thank you

[@polishgarnek]

I've been doing a bit of it in Emerald but I've been messing it up calling it wrong making things confusing, lead and predicting the pathing, coldowns for camps, Ss, Ults, items downtime etc were my ways of thinking and the tempo concept is way better Also deffensive tempo really opened my eyes, I gotta learn the basic tempo of me and enemy jg then I combine it with tracking enemy laners and my laners then crds, levels to solidify my game knowlage and better read my oponents to make better educated guesses when needed instead of taking Coinflips and gut feeling 😂 I can already predict moves on my enemy jg And I ping my teammates sadly they rarely listen, sometimes I lose it then game goes wrong so Learning Tempo properly will fix most of my issues I've been ethier stomping or getting stomped and I gotta work on playing defrensive and reducing my loses to build back up a losing match

[@adamantium2311]

brother i just realised how clueless i was when i was getting fed early geez nice way to wake up i guess

[@Zubiee]

Really good advice here on "trading camps". I find myself in a lot of situations where I think I 'should' be pulling ahead of the enemy because I'm taking his camps, but I'm not considering them doing the same to me, so I end up confused as to how he has the same farm + exp as me.

[@gpn962]

That was a really good explanation. I'm a beginner to this game and am trying to implement your advice slowly, one piece at a time. I rebinded my ally camera buttons from the f keys to 1, 2, 3, 4 and have gotten used to that (I use them now basically every time I do a camp) and am now trying to do some basic jungle tracking for the first five minutes of the game (trying to identify where the enemy jungler started, pinging what camps they're on in their first clear as well as pinging when they're likely to gank during or just after their first clear, as well as keeping the 4:20 timer in mind). Starting in iron. Let's fucking get it

[@Eagzv9]

lets get it 🔥

[@sinop6638]

At 17:00 I believe the reason graves decides to path back bot because his botlane are coming out of base at the exact same time, leaving him a high chance for a repeat gank after no sums and if not he can still farm. High reward low risk

[@jackcaddy3691]

That first clip when you ask us what would we do? When you killed hecarim. I’m an aggressive jungle and my tempo is super aggressive up to the point I will full clear enemy jungles after they die regardless what side of the map they are on. This sets us up for objective control and warding because a clear jungle means no jungles farming which makes it easier to ward and control objectives. Thus your pushing a lead and taking recourses making it a 4v5 by mid game start.

[@konjure1663]

Hey Coach! This video helped me so much. It made my jg experience so much better, I've had some mistakes here and there like not knowing my limits or when I'm doing an attack tempo but didn't realize enemy was coming back from base. But being there everytime the enemy jungle is making a play feels so good, and big bonus for teammates loving it when i'm always there. Thank you again!

[@Eagzv9]

pleasure bro ty for the kind words

[@DFerraz01]

That's the most complete free content I have ever seen, congratz, I need to watch some few times, cause im not a english native speaker, but this content is really really nice!

[@Eagzv9]

thank you man 🙏

[@Mr_CyberCookie]

Easily the best educational content for jgl out there now its just practice and watch the LP go up

[@Eagzv9]

thank you bro

[@ZeyadShehata-c3n]

thanks for the video and the content eagz i've learnt a lot from you boss

[@Eagzv9]

ayy np bro

[@MouldyCheesePie]

Tempo is not just recalling, roam timers and ganks are a massive part of it. If you and your laner are pushing then basing/roaming (on alternating timers) then you are not interacting with one another and instead are both getting tons of free time to do stuff - you both have high tempo relative to the other players on the map, but equal tempo to each other. If instead you force interaction with the laner by meeting at the same time, then say force them to back while you roam, you can get some tempo on them. But if they come back to lane while you're roaming and push, you have to return to lane and THEY get a free tempo advantage while you handle the wave. Junglers can both gank opposite lanes, having a lot of agency on the map, but then you aren't getting an ADVANTAGE over the other jungler, ideally you want to force them to do something small while you do something big, e.g. they farm a camp while you gank, or even better, they walk to a quadrant which is already taken while you gank. This is why stealing camps from underneath somebody is so big in the jungle with someone like Kayn/Talon, you insta clear the camps and the enemy jungler is missing them by a couple of seconds, so they are doing NOTHING else on the map, these are the highest tempo plays.

[@johndoh1000]

This was awesome and I'm shocked I haven't seen this concept before.

[@Eagzv9]

appreciate it bro

[@simonbriggler125]

UNDERRATED CHANNELL!!!! Can’t wait to see you blow up

[@Eagzv9]

ayy thanks bro

[@Aynawii]

This what every jungle role main has been waiting for but on other level 💯

[@mhamadsandeh6996]

bro is killing it with the dont be $hit .. thanks for this video so much

[@Eagzv9]

dont be sh*t

[@bagerklestyne]

I wondered when I'd start seeing these more. GJ !

[@PhilYes]

Bro this video pushed me 3 ranks in 5 days (Silver - Plat). I always noticed that I have 2k 3k- on my bank before I was going back. I always thought if I go back later I will have the advantage because I don't waste time recalling, what a missunderstanding I had lol.

[@PhO3NiX96]

As a brand new player and starting to jungle i feel like I'm gonna need to know the matchups and the timings between camps next.

[@Eagzv9]

clear your camps to perfection first

[@PhO3NiX96]

@@Eagzv9 Yeah I practiced with Lillia to fast clear my stuff, today I got into the jungle and ended up carrying 3 games out of 4 having between 10.0 to 20.0 kda lol and this is def thanks to your jungle guides and some other people on youtube.

[@GLDN__]

Qrow on Yi 😂 Great vid and insights as usual 👌

[@JustGotRespawned]

After watching this, League feels much more like Poker

[@Eagzv9]

there's no luck involved though

[@keddywrld]

that's the 20% of all the effort we need to put in to play jungle while mid/top/ad just kill minions, trade and recall after shove and call the jungle role unskilled. jungle is by far the hardest role and jungle players are definitely smarter

[@jurb417]

10:20 you couldnt immediately recall though. riven was running at you

[@phnantesmagnani7919]

Well, one thing is to have such beautiful teachers such as yourself. Another is applying that knowledge being the *great* student that I'm. Bronze 2 here we go?

[@Eagzv9]

you got this bro

[@HKFencer]

really good video, well explained, no bullshit. thanks!

[@Eagzv9]

thank you man 🙌

[@CoysRamirez]

This is the difference in Korean servers. Every streamer and pro in Korea is always putting focus on tempo and I've rarely seen NA players heavily take it into account

[@VendettaDaZippo]

Just wanted to say I gave this a try while playing Belveth right after watching this video. I absolutely STOMPED the other jungler with the constant attack tempo I learned from this video. Thank you for making this one! Would you say in general, maintaining an attacking tempo is preferable if you have strong early champs/happen to get an early lead, and defensive tempo is more appropriate when going even/playing from behind? I ran into an "issue" of I was able to kill the jungler, base, run to his next jungle, kill him again and take his 1-2 camps, base then rinse and repeat. I barely touched my own jungle compared to how I normally play. Was that the right thing to do or should I also try to clear my own spawning camps, even though I know exactly where I can find him?

[@Eagzv9]

hey man great to hear you used this to stomp haha yeh i would keep attacking the enemy jungler the only thing you need to worry about is if you CAN'T kill them before their lanes get there, so if a fight breaks out who wins a 3v3, 4v4 etc?

[@pabspabs]

Thanks for this video, amazing content! really usefull :)

[@Eagzv9]

ay you're welcome bro

[@Kqnashi]

Good video, Thanks

[@Eagzv9]

i got you bro

[@NKVale]

Not sure if you’re paying attention to comments on this video still, but I have a question.. what should the hecarim do to recover and avoid dying (the second time) to your invade in that example?

[@Eagzv9]

maybe do krugs first but it doesnt matter, hes already lost the game making that horrific play mid, if he just clears that doesn’t happen

[@TheCisforCrap]

Hey eagz, love the vid. I am a master viego OTP and got a question. I know you’re a big advocate of the aggressive attacking tempo play style and I have tried it a lot. One problem that I have is that when i go for an invade, higher elo junglers seem to know how to navigate those sort of situations and leave, which give time for the enemy lamer to rotate. In doing so, I then have to back off on the play. This then allows the enemy jungler to pick up his own camps meanwhile so have to fall back to mine, which means I end up losing tempo on the map since I am wasting more time with my camps up. What are your thoughts on this?

[@Eagzv9]

thank you for watching the vid bro ok so if you're playing viego you can't really ambush like a Shaco or a champ with a dash like Graves/Nid/Kindred, so your invades are more telegraphed (easier to react to because they're not as quick) so unless you're super fed/your laners are on a recall then it's probably not worth, it really depends though but you have to know where your laners will be when you show

[@Drazard]

i was very impressed with your explanation of jungler resources, but when you mentioned the river resources you forgot about the scuttle crabs :(

[@Eagzv9]

yeh you don't really tempo for crabs though so i dont mention them

[@ccohn0]

Amazing video

[@twentysevenfour4901]

fantastic guide.

[@Eagzv9]

thank you bro

[@Kazumo]

This was interesting. My tempo is all over the place and my mid-game is absolutely horrible, so I'm trying to improve upon those aspects, especially since now in Diamond it feels like I'm lagging behind sometimes, but I have a question. In my experience, sometimes the laners will move in and try to defend the jungler's camps, basically playing a defensive tempo for them. If this happens, the jungler arrives there as well and you're sometimes in a 2v1 situation where you'll lose or have to go back, which ruins the tempo because you already wasted time. How to deal with this kind of situations?

[@Eagzv9]

hey bro great question, you have to know where the enemy champs have been and especially if they’re in fog where that might be…basically needa see their footprints the entire game - get a sweeper if youre attacking and if you walk over vision it becomes much riskier 👍

[@Kazumo]

​@@Eagzv9thank you so much for taking your time to reply and give advice. After watching your video I jumped straight into a match and I did my best to be self aware of my tempo and it did wonders. I stopped overextending to get one more extra camp and went back to base which allowed me to get ahead of the curve and win it with a wonderful 14-2 score! Keep it up with all those wonderful guides.

[@ScottMalkinsoNN]

Good to know that but i'm nunu otp so it doesn't matter that much for me, maybe in defensive way

[@Eagzv9]

yep some champs are way more limited in terms of attacking tempo because of their early game lack of strength

[@Change2gether]

top, thanks!

[@danielsandovalarias6192]

I apply the attacking tempo in my games when I have the chance. However, I rarely do it more than once in a row. The reasoning... wouldn't killing the jungle on repeat give you less experience than doing your camps? It's true the enemy jungler would be even more behind, but the moment you fail to kill him in his jungle, you get greatly behind.

[@Eagzv9]

Yeh so you need to know you kill them 100% because you're right, you will keep falling behind in terms of camps if the invades fail 👍

[@tanoshimei4074]

lets see if this can end my career as an emerlad hardstuck, i did this in worse and kind of subconciously i never really thought about my actions XD

[@VekarPL]

If you have 80 AD and buy 2 long swords you have 100 AD, its +25% AD not +20% :)

[@Eagzv9]

bro i must be dumb af, it's 20 of 100 no?

[@VekarPL]

@@Eagzv9 in my opinion you should calculate it according to how strong you were before so its 20 of 80 not 100. Its all from poont of view of person that has 80 AD and getting 20 AD is + 25% bonus so its even more of a difference :d

[@igorok3786]

I have two thing to say: the ennemy in your clip doesnt seems to help there jg when he get invading, therfore might be because he didnt ask for help by going on his top side so they might not be able to come, but they also never resetting their back timer together. This is something that happen often and one of the reason of why going deep in jg could result in a death and in that case lost of tempo + gain of gold and exp for the ennemy. Also, I would find it more interesting to follow the POV because a lot of decision come from the angle of you looking at it. You might be top side and invading top jg but actually looking at mid and top to see if you could have a kill angle. That said its good to be aware of this because this is soloQ nightmare. Not having teamate and bad matchup...

[@3nder93]

Are there any examples you know of with Karthus? I tend to get nervous about invading with him and wind up defaulting back to full clearing.

[@Eagzv9]

can invade on Karthus you just have to be much further ahead

[@3nder93]

@@Eagzv9 Sweet. Are there any specific champs you'd recommend for low elo to practise the perma invade?

[@Drootweek]

Thank you!

[@Eagzv9]

yw shaun 😘

[@lazarorodriguez7186]

Thanks eagz

[@Eagzv9]

np mate

[@MagoPoetaRJ]

Do u ever played in Iron in server BR, Brasil? Sometimes I think its another game here. :)

[@Eagzv9]

you’re one of them bro 😈

[@NDtoker]

Got me gold 1 to emearld 4 just watching your free videos. Cant figure out how to get a game to youtube for coaching because im a boomer

[@Eagzv9]

nice climb bro haha yeh you can just DL a screen recording software like OBS and upload the file to youtube/google drive 👍

[@gunnarmayer7653]

“This guy afks 2 minutes later” 🎉😂

[@madmanmax3734]

As a Rengar main In diamond what match-ups should I invade early?

[@Eagzv9]

if you hard-win 1v1, so Evelynn, Ekko...low DPS champs...can also late invade because your level 1 is strong

[@Xm-j1472]

Ty

[@frost9239]

Love it

[@Darkyahweh]

Hardest thing to manage is 5 tempo's at once all while your m8's suck so the tempo of the enemy is about 1 min faster than it should be and you just get 5 manned bot

[@RedLukey]

"What if the enemy laners rotate... just walk out" And lose any tempo you may have gained running back to your side... Also what if the laners warded their jung? Is this not just repeated coin flipping? I'm pretty sure Agurin got rank 1 on every server doing the exact opposite of this.

[@emilfilotasticsandra1222]

So now I get abused by someone that have seen this video. what do I do to regain control/tempo?

[@Eagzv9]

nothing, for them to make a mistake or for your teammates to save you by gapping their lanes

[@toml7412]

at 10:35 is it not better to recall/stay on the map and farm top to bot clear? just a question can you explain why it is better to kill rengar again on red?

[@Eagzv9]

because i get there in time and get his whole bot side while mine is still chilling, but i cant because riven chases haha

[@ItsTwister1]

Try understanding this concept and playing as suck in low elo and then getting flamed when u can’t gank before lvl 6 playing noc because u need to get the new void grubs b/c the enemy has a split pushing yorick.

[@DudeCuno]

the point about xiao chao meng isn't completely correct he's thinking SHOW ME WHO YOU ARE as well

[@BestofLeagueClips]

I LOVE THE VID I'm diamond now

[@Darkfernape]

Oml u made jg sound less complicated😹☠️

[@Eagzv9]

just jg diff

[@SeriousBlehBleh]

Finally.

[@Eagzv9]

bro that full stop is toxic af 😈

[@Neovipa]

Why define recalling as explicitly being part of tempo? Seems an extreme oversimplification; if enemy jungler 3 camp ganks botside and you decide to take his topside camps in response, that doesn't count as tempo since you didn't recall first?

[@Eagzv9]

that's my way of defining it bro, and what you just described i just think of being ahead in camps

[@aiseruchaan]

I'm currently Emerald I in Wild Rift but I'll probably be in Iron if I play LOL 😂

[@Infinite_War]

You failed to mention stealing, punishing, or stopping tempo by punishing ganks when enemy camps are up, or if they invade your jungle early. This requires a bit of thought, and mini map awareness though lol

[@Eagzv9]

that's one massive failure on my behalf, idk what you just typed btw

[@Infinite_War]

@@Eagzv9 Sorry, that was a douchie way for me to say that. It was not my intention, but I understand why you took it that way. I was trying to add to the incredible lesson and content you produced here, not be subtractive. I was specifically talking about punishing enemy jungler mistakes. Such as 3 camping into a gank, or ganking in general without clearing their camps leaving them open to invades. I would put it in a different category than attacking because your goal is not to kill them, and you can do this even if you are not capable of dueling them. It's just stealing resources and screwing up their tempo, and gold income.

[@Eagzv9]

all good man hahaha i see what you're saying so instead of killing them we're taking undefended camps instead i like it 👍@@Infinite_War

[@Eparygon]

mitolojik31

[@blackmagick77]

Well I know I'll never be a high or even mid level jungler x.x

[@SirButterlegs]

Thought it said TEEMO 😅😂

[@rainbowfr3ak757]

So basically everything is tempo in your eyes. This is quite complicated concept for people never hearing of it. I am not saying you are wrong, but you are just explaining all kind of different concepts and calling literally everything tempo. It is usually used basically just for stating which team has better tempo overall - who owns current pace of the game and getting more out of it. If you want to call everything tempo to sound cool, okay. Anyways, cool concepts, definitely helped.

[@Eagzv9]

bro what did you just type haha tempo is recalling in relation to the enemy champs, that's what the course is about, and no doubt you've heard a bunch of people say the word 'tempo' but not know what it means, but glad the video helped ❤

[@rainbowfr3ak757]

@@Eagzv9 As I am saying you are right, but it is literally never used in this way. You are first person I am hearing this definition from, and if I think of it, you are right, as I said. But man it is just confusing to call it that.

[@Eagzv9]

it is all tempo tho, and all i did was say 'attacking tempo' and 'defensive tempo' to make it simple to understand@@rainbowfr3ak757

[@fwg1364]

You should add more time for us to think or pause after asking a question about what to do. It's jarring as is

[@Eagzv9]

there's a pause button bro

[@tian1332]

i thought tempo was free time to do what you wanted uncontested

[@Eagzv9]

yeh na

[@ProteinPredatorsPodcast]

Noice

[@ELYESSS]

Yeah but yasuos are not worth that much gold to be called a ressource.

[@tyomka8]

who in their right mind will pay 650$ for league of legends coaching

[@Eagzv9]

bro you needa take that supply and demand course

[@tyomka8]

@@Eagzv9 ur free videos are enough

[@caillous8847]

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[@Soney.]

wtf are the timers in the thumbnail? they make 0 sense

[@Eagzv9]

just a thumbnail bro, breathe

[@littleclouds4089]

i just prefer just playing a game like is intented to be, random and funny, than calculating and studing for shit like this, because by the end, a random fight will gonna dectate who gonna wins or lose. Unless you are a challenger player, but i guess all of you guys you are not. So just have fun.

[@Eagzv9]

then play norms bro

[@B3nGlov3r]

get off

[@Eagzv9]

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[@perfectelectrics]

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[@ViralWave808]

shut up bro it's never about tempo it's about reactive situation lane minions and knowing your champion, you can't tell a silver player to tempo or a gold one(they don't even know how to even if you show them), what you can say is look 2sec on map everytime you don't do nothing and react even if your doing the camps

[@Eagzv9]

'it's never about tempo' bro you should make your own jungle guide

[@jomariespano7036]

This is so helpful as an iron jungler where after i clear my camps my team is already 0/5 flaming me for not ganking their lanes while over extending

[@boopaloop]

As a baby brand new jungler who played Kha'zix last night, i absolutely need to get educated and stop feeding.

[@brandon.a]

This video is definitely addressing my blind spot as a evelynn main. My tempo suuuuucks, I spend too much time delaying recalling. I like to steal enemy jungle camps first thing, but then I end up pushing thru my full clear with no recall. By the time I finish 9 camps, Im not that much further ahead of enemy jungle in xp, I have no item lead, and end up even (or worse) if I run into the enemy jungler at scuttles/lanes. Im thinking after stealing camps I should recall after the 6th camp, buy, and then finish my remaining camps while heading to a lane for gank. Typing this makes me feel like such a noob because its so simple but I dunno I guess my bad habits got ingrained over time lol. Great video!

[@sreal-iron5898]

ok i understood the assignment, ill go lethal tempo rune every game , on every lane, on every champ! because...my tempo...is...LETHAL

[@magalercio]

tempo is time in portuguese, glad to help...

[@Ismael-sh9ii]

important thing to know if you want to get offensive tempo is the wave state of the laners for example if midlane slow pushes into your laner and and botlane is shoved in aswell the enemy support/mid gets the first move and easily hover/cover the camp of your enemy that you wanted to invade in most of the times the best option here is to just clear your camps to get them respawned asap and is also the safer option

[@Eagzv9]

if you can easy kill the enemy jungler then no you don’t need to worry about lanes unless they are super behind…be patient, wait for your champs to be able to move and ez

[@alpuu7889]

"I would struggle to 1v1 a caster minion" XDXDXD really got me

[@lucsas9277]

this def shows how jg is way harder than it looks, my brain is in shambles even tho i apply these concepts somewhat well

[@itsnyy8079]

In the current meta (14.2), i have been doing blue, wolves, red, gank top, kill top laner then base on certain jungle and top matchups. Is this a good tempo lead? It’s very successful as i have option to invade, solo enemy jungler when they are still trying to get scuttle, gank bot with item advantage etc. Edit: i normally do this on khazix, trundle, maybe graves if its like a bruiser match up top where they skirmish lvl 2-3 and usually are both low already.

[@Eagzv9]

sounds good if you actually kill top which is all jungling is, farming camps optimally until you can kill enemy champ

[@zianiayoub2404]

if u can make a guide comparing farming jglers and ganking jglers and how to decide if gank or farm when u play as a tank jgler