Xeno Crisis (Sega Genesis vs Nintendo 64) Side by Side Comparison | VCDECIDE

[@JohnCharb87]

The music on the Genesis version sounds incredible. It's also amazing what they could do with the Genesis especially the sprite work, animation and background art.

[@dan_perry]

32 mega powaa!

[@pcachu]

The soundtrack was composed by KZbinr Savaged Regime, who's basically mastered the Genesis sound chip (Yamaha YM2612). His channel is full of excellent Genesis-chip renditions of all sorts of game tunes, including massive improvements of some from existing Genesis games.

[@SpeedyGoneFroglegs]

@@pcachu Thanks for adding that, I will have to check it out.

[@umiami80]

Genesis is vastly capable at sprites and speed in movement.

[@RT55J]

You mentioned the upcoming PS1 and SNES versions, but I also believe there's a GBA port in the works as well (I believe they said they had to add scrolling to the game for that one).

[@JMFSpike]

Man, those crazy devs won't be satisfied until this game is on every 90's and 00's console in existence. I wonder what's next. Perhaps Turbografx-16, Sega Saturn, or X-Box? Maybe even obscure consoles like 3DO, CD-I, or Jaguar (although it's obviously a helluva lot less likely.) I doubt we'll ever see PS2 or PS3 because it'd be pointless. You can just play the PS1 version on your PS2 or PS3. An actual PS2 or PS3 version would add extremely little if anything at all. It would be super cool if they took advantage of the PS2 and PS3's faster loading and smoothing options though.

[@MrMartellSincere]

This is awesome work to see indie games on retro consoles

[@blastproces]

Gives them new purpose it’s great

[@stephandolby]

Just a shame that it's very unlikely that a Saturn version is on the cards. The Saturn's SCSP could theoretically mimic the Mega Drive version's music, albeit with all the extra samples thrown in, and of course a 2D game would be easily handled.

[@Medachod]

Well, not quite. The Saturn can indeed do 2D the best of its generation, but the programming of the system was still pretty hard, even for 2D. Majority still did crosshatching in their games, some did the background layer only and a handful like Cotton 2 and Keio Flying Squadron 2 nailed it. But it varies because of the Saturn's intricacies. But in theory, if somebody did figure all of this out, you're correct. I, too, would enjoy a Saturn version.

[@entertainmentwizard2703]

Somebody was working on a prototype!

[@Tom_Van_Zandt]

IDK...I emailed them a couple weeks ago and I got a response saying that they were working on a few unannounced console versions. PS1 is highly likely to be one, and I would wager if PS1 is getting a port then the Saturn will, as well. I'm not gonna lie, I kinda want pretty much ever port of this damn game. lol

[@dtester]

@user-pb9si7xk5f This isn't true at all, can you elaborate? Saturn had the best shooters and 2D fighter ports of that generation. The only catch is you had to import from Japan for many of them. 😅

[@Tom_Van_Zandt]

@user-pb9si7xk5f There are things the PS1 did better and things the Saturn did better. Obviously one of the best 2D comparisons is Symphony of the Night. The PS1 version is way better than the Saturn's.

[@dwightdixon8508]

Never thought I’d see the day when we’d be comparing same game on the Genesis/MD vs N64 but here we are and all I can say is the Genesis/MD still does!

[@СергейАржаных-м3и]

genesis does!!

[@santitabnavascues8673]

All aspects are very neat on Megadrive, and while it's clear the kind of limitations this game was designed with, both versions shine. In fact, it is supperb how Megadrive holds its ground against a hardware completely superior. And how crisp are N64 screens! 😊

[@HashBeen1985]

Sega Mega Drive/Genesis has a better resolution than n64 of 240p, n64 can only do interlaced via s-video cable 🤓

[@JoseMarques9090]

@@HashBeen1985 Resolution makes zero differences in 16 bit games

[@NoSpamForYou]

@@HashBeen1985 N64 can do 240p and cab be RGB modded. I am not a fan of spending much money on mods and cables though.

[@Obviousthrowawayaccount]

@@HashBeen1985false

[@somedude6647]

People are praising the Genesis version but the N64 version deserves more respect since it shows that it is capable of solid 2D graphics, something that was not very common during its actual lifespan

[@nykraftlemagnifique]

I read the subtitles and I don't know there was people who attack Vilo Vilela for SA1 mod ... seriously ?! Personnally, I was so happy of what he doing for us !!! I will never understand this "fans" ! The use of extra chip in Snes is part of his DNA since the begining !!!

[@richardp1592]

Ótimo vídeo e que venham mais Ports! Mas por curiosidade qual a chance do SNES ter uma ferramenta como o SGDK?

[@RheoGamer]

grandes, o SirMacho está trabalhando fortemente nisso, e os resultados já são muito bons, estou experimentando em primeira mão.

[@juniornintendo]

Que os anjos passem e falem amen

[@admazorca]

@@RheoGamer só não esqueçe dos amigos quando tiver pronto, agora vc me animou mais.

[@andremanfrinati4732]

@@RheoGamer tem como dar mais detalhes sobre esse projeto ?

[@Accelluter]

​@@RheoGameropa, disponibilize isso quando estiver pronta, por favor

[@segasdreamer]

I have both and both are damn fine versions to play. As for the SNES stuff, the system's biggest games used chips so it shouldn't be an issue. I'd rather have solid performance in my game than a game that was smooth in the start and had chunky frames or slow down in later levels.

[@scph0055]

Eu não tenho nada contra os chips especiais usados no snes, acho isso um trunfo da arquitetura do console, mas não é verdade que os maiores títulos usavam chips especiais, os Donkey Kong Country não usavam chip especial.

[@JoseMarques9090]

The system's biggest games didn't use any chip. Because Snes If well programmed is faster that Genesis/mega drive.

[@roadkill_52]

@@JoseMarques9090 Sorry, but it's not. You can't deny reality, the Sega Genesis have the better CPU and that can be constated objectively. They can be faster if well programmed, but not as faster as a well programmed Sega game.

[@JoseMarques9090]

@@roadkill_52 Genesis CPU is not better nor faster. Just has a higher clock. Yes, If well programmed Snes CPU is faster than Mega Drive. Look at Firepower 2000 and Super Smash TV for example. Those games are faster and more fluid on Snes because they were well programmed.

[@vomoreno]

@@JoseMarques9090 Tanto melhor que Xeno Crisis vai precisar de um chip especial ja confirmado!!! Mas o importante é jogar ok

[@pretzel6629]

Just realized, the first boss "Shima".... Tetsuo Shima from Akira

[@DanMarsuraofficial]

Caraca não sabia que tinha para N64, fiquei sabendo recentemente que ia ter uma versão para SNES também, gosto bastante da versão de Dreamcast desse jogo tem até dublagem nas cenas nela.

[@shaggymcdaniel3216]

The SNES version is apparently considered the definitive port, with larger and more colorful sprites.

[@joaquimneto7607]

@@shaggymcdaniel3216 Port is port.

[@spicybreadproductions1972]

Correcting a few mistakes I noticed, and just general discussion 8:21 1. If the extra chip is *just* for piracy, them being pissed is completely justified: what does that mean for a ROM release? Did they seriously just add extra hardware to the cart just for an anti-piracy check when no other release needed that and hackers are gonna remove it anyway? I think in the vain effort to appease a minority of SA-1 haters, the creators only reinforced there stances and made even more people pissed, because they aren’t being transparent on what chips they’re using. Judging by a demo video they released, I know for a fact they’re using an MSU variant. A minor disappointment as I think most people would prefer remixes over .wavs of the exact same track, but whatever. It’s also a save assumption they’re using something like an SA-1. However, I don’t know for sure. 2. Paprium use an extra sound chip, co-processors, seemingly an extra sprite rendering layer, and of course a ROM mapper to handle that 80megabit power. This does have anti-piracy in a way, because emulators aren’t equip to emulate that extra hardware, but I’m pretty sure MAME supports it already. That, and comparing to Xeno Crisis, Paprium didn’t really promise a ROM release, nor ever had that expectation It does deliberately have an anti-dumping thing though, dumping that troll game you play when SRAM first initialed. Y’know, “PAAAAAAAAAAAA”? Pier Solar only uses a ROM mapper, if I recall. Does have special enhancements with a MegaCD attached, but it’s not like it’s using an MCD FPGA or something. 12:12 actually, the SNES does have an SGDK-like toolset, it’s named PVsnesLib. It’s a bit less mainstream then SGDK, but seems pretty good. Have a look for yourself github.com/alekmaul/pvsneslib

[@X2011racer]

The Msu-1 chip could possibly be used to carry over the Genesis Soundtrack to the SNES due to audio channel limitations along with the SPC700 not truly capable of mimicking the YM2612 without unintentional side effects. This can be seen in some games like Speedy Gonzales: Los Gatos Bandidos and Donkey Kong Country 2, where forcing a song change via ROM hacking can cause sound effects to glitch out due to sample limitations.

[@JoseMarques9090]

There is no programming tool like SGDK or equivalent for Snes. Just some Minor tools that barely help to make any game from scratch.

[@JoseMarques9090]

The extra chip is used also to shorten the release time. It's easier than dealing with Snes capable but dificult programming.

[@skalt711]

I like N64's deeper color

[@shaggymcdaniel3216]

It still amazes me that barely any 2D titles came to the N64. So much wasted potential. It’s like they completely abandoned their Japanese audience. Now we need a Neo Geo port, with vastly superior sprites.

[@wizzgamer]

It didn't really have enough grunt for it compared to even the Mega Drive and Snes it was built as a 3D powerhouse.

[@X2011racer]

The N64 had an even harder time with 2D than the Playstation due to texture resolution limitations. This can be seen on Nintendo Switch Online, where a majority of sprites are disconnected or incredibly blurry in Yoshi's Story.

[@davidaitken8503]

​@@wizzgamerYou are delusional. The N64 could brute force far more than the Genesis or SNES despite lacking any dedicated 2D hardware. Show me anything for the SNES or Genesis that pushes even a fifth as much as Bangai-O.

[@NotaPizzaGRL]

@@davidaitken8503 That's nice. Now compares the N64 2D capabilities to the PSX or Saturn.

[@davidaitken8503]

@@NotaPizzaGRL Okay. Show me any 2D games on the Playstation (which also lacks any dedicated 2D hardware) and the Saturn that pushes as much as Bangai-O.

[@rodrigomessiasschineider4544]

Pelo mega drive ser mais antigo que o N64, a vitória fica com o mega drive, mesmo com toda sua limitação não deixou nada a desejar. Ficou magnífico.

[@alubaldini]

Juegos hack hechos como 30 años después que eran imposibles en su momento jaja

[@martinurani7777]

sega genesis !!!!!!!!!!!!! wow !°!!!!!!!!!

[@Fattydeposit]

The Mega Drive original is quite different to the Dreamcast port (and all the other later versions probably) mostly down to completely rewritten (much more aggressive).enemy AI / logic routines. The MD one is a *lot* easier. I imagine anyone annoyed about the use of a custom chip (as opposed to an SA-1 chip) in the SNES version might just be expressing displeasure at this meaning no working ROM dumps for emulators / flashcarts.

[@JoseMarques9090]

That 's the point. It's much easier to just add a chip than rewrite the game for Snes 🤷

[@geminielectro]

i saw the SNES demo and it sounds incredibly good!!!

[@renatogois5966]

Comparações muito boa quem diria o Mega draive disputando com o N64 impressionante já sobre processador não tem como o Mega draive e superior tem um vídeo no canal element 14 o cara liga um osciloscópio no mega drive na porta lateral onde liga o sega CD e fas o mesmo no super Nintendo e verifica a velocidade através das formas de ondas e de fato o Mega draive e mais rápido ou fest agora todo mundo sabe que o SNES e lento e por esse motivo muitos jogos usa chip especial para aumentar o clok e possibilita alguns efeitos agora reclamar por conta de um programador usa chip especial para fazer seus jogos e o fim da picada Já que ná época os programadores afirmavam que programar no super Nintendo era um pé no saco devido O baixo clok do processador do super Nintendo.

[@admazorca]

snes faz 1.5 milhões de instrução por segundo vs o mega com 1.3 milhões de instrução, o uso do chip é totalmente inutil, já que se olhar o smash tv e total carnage, ele roda rápidop sem slow cheio de inimigos e ainda esta em slowrom 2.68 mhz, não é nem fastrom de 3,58 mhz, tem muitos jogos que é rápido cheio de inimigos em slowrom.

[@admazorca]

e outra não se compara clocks quando para leituras diferentes, o clock do mega é para ler o assembly dele, então precisa de mais, já o do snes usa para o assembly dele que não tem o pq ser de 7 mhz.

[@JoseMarques9090]

O mega é mais lento que o Snes. Apesar do clock o Snes ganha em instruções. O Snes se bem programado fica mais rápido que o meguinha como provado no Super Smash TV.

[@AkiraElMittico]

I'll pick the Genesis version instead 💯🔥

[@sloppynyuszi]

I get this on the Mega Drive as an accomplishment and it’s a fantastic game. I love the fact it’s available on modern consoles for us without mega drives. The upcoming SNES and GBA port will be interesting as it’s similar hardware, but different. I don’t get what the purpose of the N64, Dreamcast, Neo Geo or the upcoming PS1 release is for. It’s not challenging the hardware, and they aren’t as accessible as a modern console. Seems like a small scale cash grab for collectors rather than a gaming achievement. Feels like it cheapens the game.

[@davidaitken8503]

Agreed. What's the point to this on the N64? Why not make a sequel or something else entirely?

[@NoSpamForYou]

​@@davidaitken8503 By porting a game they know well they learn how to make games for that system faster. And everyone has their favorite retro console. Your only complaint should be that they didn't do a 4-player version on the 4-player capable consoles.

[@NoSpamForYou]

I don't think there is one game like this on the Neo Geo so it makes a lot of sense there. They only charge 15 GBP for a rom download, even for Neo Geo which is 300 GBP for the MVS arcade cartridge and more for the AES home console cart. It is only 30 GBP for a Neo Geo CD version. Once they release on all the retro systems they will probably pare back future releases depending on sales performance on each platform. Bitmap Bureau is probably the least cash grabby of any of the retro developers/publishers IMO.

[@mario4everd]

Honestly the n64 release makes sense to me because it reminds ppl of the possible 2d capabilities of the system that was usually under utilized for a focus on 3d.

[@james2175]

I want a Saturn port now!

[@Gunh3d1]

Too bad there is no 4 player option on the N64.😞

[@dvdbox360]

if the chip inproved performance as a gamers we should be thankful it give us better experience

[@JoseMarques9090]

Not when it's an unecessary one.

[@MorrisChannel4]

Im amazed to find out it was ported to almost every console known to man! Thats wild

[@wyldelf2685]

Ahhh variation of Super Smash TV , , , , to the pleasure dome ! 😋😋👍

[@Leoj305]

I really love the all those facts that you gave about the special chip and I for one agree with you. These "fans" are toxic and a detriment to the community. Truly appreciate the hard work and research

[@wizzgamer]

Surprised how poor the speech is on the Mega Drive version considering the cart size, Earthworm Jim and Mortal Kombat II have shown voices can sound much better than this.

[@matrixman7706]

I got no problem with using special chips, but looking at this game, I would think that the SNES would be able to handle this very easily with stock hardware. Am I wrong in thinking that? If a special chip is needed to make it run, smooth and fast then I’m all for it.

[@mrjab6313]

Smash tv de snes es un perfecto ejemplo de que la snes puede manejar este tipo de juegos

[@matrixman7706]

@@mrjab6313 is smash TV not using an enhancement chip?

[@mrjab6313]

Cómo comenté más arriba lo más probable es que hicieran eso para evitar la piratería

[@NoClipMode]

It's mostly the amount and size of the sprites on screen. This pushes the MegaDrive hardware and the MD has more raw processing power than the SNES. This is why the first Sonic game that was ported to SNES does not run or look as good as the MD version, even though it's considerably less demanding than the later MD Sonic games. Many people think the SNES is more powerful than it really is, and things like the Super FX chip and Mode 7 are largely responsible for that, but for raw processing performance the MD easily wins. Check out the Titan Overdrive 2 demo to see what the base MD hardware is capable of.

[@jsr734]

@@matrixman7706 No, its not using any extra chip. It even uses slowrom access speeds and runs smoothly.

[@Pagaugezero]

The Neo Geo version is the only version with blood on the walls

[@sinchman1]

I own 2 copies of the Neo-Geo AES, N64 and Gamecube

[@venom74799]

I still sit by the window with a candle and gleeful hope of pumpkin head laser girl to come grace us for an intro.

[@HashBeen1985]

Sega Genesis has better resolution...!

[@JoseMarques9090]

Resolution makes Zero differences in 16 bit games

[@allbundy432]

​@@JoseMarques9090😂😂😂😂😂😂 You are a meme

[@JoseMarques9090]

@@allbundy432 Did I lie? No I didn't 🤷

[@allbundy432]

@@JoseMarques9090 I didn't say you lie, I said you're ridiculous. You don't answer questions, you base yourself on 3-4 precedents of better versions on your favorite console and your ignorance is evident. There are more tools for MD, so? Tanglewood was developed with 1995 technology in 2020, without any current tools What's the excuse for not doing the same on SNES? Fonci's project N failed and they tried to program it several times from scratch, but they never achieved the quality they were looking for. The same goes for the SNES games that are currently being released. The only thing currently on SNES is a game flop Unholy Night and a Xeno Crisis that wouldn't work with that performance if you didn't add a chip. Did I lie?

[@JoseMarques9090]

@deansatan9573 But I agree with you that some hardwares are very weak. Mega drive console is poor. That's why Konami didn't even try releasing Turtles in Time.

[@PhyA52]

The N64 controller is better designed for this game.

[@portnawak]

Genesis 6 buttons l'ajout does a good job too

[@renatogois5966]

Essa comparação Mega draive vs n64 Mega draive ganha até por ser Mais antigo e ter recursos inferiores Sega WINS.

[@axguzman-gq9fz]

Me gusta mas la versión de Génesis

[@matrixman7706]

The N64 is clearly the superior version. Better colors and smoother animation. I’m not saying the mega drive is a bad version, but why would you choose a watered down version?

[@axguzman-gq9fz]

@@matrixman7706 siempre va aver una mejor versión y consola más poderosa pero me gusta más la de Génesis

[@apache4739]

🤔

[@Crystallums]

I'll just say one thing... Seeeeggggggaaaaaa!!!!!! ha ha ha

[@СергейАржаных-м3и]

genesis does!

[@Devilhelll]

""Snes diz: sem chipinhu eu num rodu"" 😂😂😂😂

[@admazorca]

o Chip é escolha do criador não do snes, ele roda esse jogo suave, esse jogo não tem nada de mais, background estatico, menos inimigos que o smash tv, total carnage é mais rápido isso em slowrom.

[@Devilhelll]

@@admazorca escolha do criador? "çei..." smash tv, inimigos praticamente todos iguais com pouca variação de inimigos ao mesmo tempo na tela e praticamente todos os inimigos com 2 frames de animação e alguns ate estáticos além do gráfico inferior, e vc quer comparar com o xeno que tem varios inimigos diferentes na tela e cada um deles com varias animações bem mais fluidas além dos personagens principais. Se fosse escolha do criador pq a versão de n64 não tem chipinho tbm? Se o snes fosse tão bom mesmo não precisaria de chipinho simulando outro console dentro do cartucho pra rodar esse jogo 😂

[@JonBR-622]

​@@DevilhelllAh, cara, Logo ali no começo do Xenocrisis tu pega os inimigos praticamente igual uns roxinho pequenos uns monstrinhos tudo igual, e quem disse que o chip foi uma escolha para evitar pirataria foi O PRÓPRIO CRIADOR do Xenocrisis. Por que o cara mentiria? E ele ainda tem preferência pelo Mega Drive. Se quisesse poderia ter mentido para favorecer o Mega.

[@JonBR-622]

​@@DevilhelllE Smash tv é tão fácil de rodar, explica aí a versão do Megaum ser toda capada em comparação com a do Super Nintendo? Kkkkk Mega não aguentou o jogo? Vou ali jogar Slow Empire, Slowforce IV, Sonic Slowpinball, Slow Tale (Twinkle tale), Slow Zone (Final Zone), Slowman (Pulseman), Slowpoint (Viewpoint), vixe, a lista é grande de jogos com problemas de lentidão no Mega. Vai ver tava no contrato da Nintendo que esses jogos tinham que ter slowdowns no console do blast processing que nunca da slowdown nos jogos.😅😂

[@Devilhelll]

@@JonBR-622 Mas cada monstrinho tem muito mais frames e tem mais variedades ao mesmo tempo em telas e ate com transformações, e mais frames de mortes... Enfim.. Sendo sincero eu tbm acho que o snes poderia rodar xenocrisis com sua tela esticada de lei como vai ser... Mas agora com o chipinho vcs podem desfrutar do jogo sem slow, pq sem o chipinho o snes não iria conseguir rodar o jogo fluido nao rsrsrs. Salvos pelo chipinho...

[@blastproces]

Also the mega drive has an arsenal of power at its command with the me pro fpga chip ,I know it’s a chip doing the work but it’s still a game changer

[@ninjacat230]

All that SA-1 business just sounds to me like a lot of salty SNES fans coping over the fact that their "beloved" console can't normally run those types of games well.

[@benjib2691]

I don't understand why some fanboys go mad about BitmapBureau using a coprocessor for the SNES version. The SNES was built from the ground-up to easily use coprocessors to enhance some of its capabilities. Nintendo went with a simple but capable base hardware that can be easily upgraded as needed. Sega went in the other direction : putting as much 1988's power as possible inside the console for the price they targeted and use it as much as possible for the entire generation. Although they ultimately released complete hardware add-ons down the line and the SVP, which are much more complex in architecture than what the SNES uses. Ultimately no solution is better than the other, each have their pros and cons. If using a coprocessor makes the SNES port of Xeno Crisis better without spending 2 or 3 years rewriting the entire code base to optimize it for the SNES, that's all that matters in the end. That we get a good port without the dev having to lose too much of their sanity 🙂

[@vintagebluenote8564]

Nice video but you can not see the most important thing: The Sega Mega Drive it is the console with the sharpest picture ever (wins also against the saturn), the N64 it is the opposite..it is the console with the most blurry picture ever (even worst than ps2). So in this video the mega drive looks blurry but it is not!! It is ultra sharp in a crt TV! I have all the consoles and I know what I'm speaking about.

[@joesshows6793]

Now this is interesting

[@braddl9442]

So pretty much the same. But a richer color pallet with new sound effects on the N64.

[@Enzo012]

No special chips needed for the Genesis version thanks to blast processing.

[@ugzz]

I came here for the comparison vid.. but I stayed for the... shots fired? lol

[@eichi24]

Apologies for speaking from ignorance, but it gave me the feeling that the screens were inverted and that the game that appears as a Genesis game is actually the Nintendo 64 game, and the N64 game screen is the Sega Genesis game.?¿

[@brazilianpeacecraft7454]

"Sujando a imagem do Snes com estes hacks"... é muita frescura dessa pirralhada. o trabalho é do cara, se acha ruim tenta fazer melhor. É muita falta do que fazer.

[@JoseMarques9090]

Na verdade alguns consumidores reclamaram porque terão que pagar mais caro por um chip desnecessário. Nestes casos foi válida a reclamação.

[@gabrielepasquali5479]

Sega Genesis specs were great.

[@Pavvzz]

Interesante debate expones. Pata mi si un juego de SNES va con chip para mejorar la experiencia me parece muy bien. Cual es el problema que Snes tuviera algun componente inferior al de megadrive en alguna taria si en otra era mejor. Las 2 maquinas tenian lo suyo y llorar por eso es de inmaduros, mejor callar y disfrutar las diferencias. Me pregunto como sonara la musica en ambos cuando salga, ojala tenga esas diferencias de tonalidad en la musica como en la epoca asi tener 2 bandas sonoras iguales pero diferentes 🤤

[@hopetagulos]

Creo que Super Nintendo sin chip tendría que bajar la resolución.

[@Pavvzz]

@@hopetagulos probablemente.

[@JoseMarques9090]

​@@hopetagulosNope, resolucion hace neguna diferencia en consolas 16 bits

[@hopetagulos]

@@JoseMarques9090 Sega Mega Drive tiene gráficos un poco más definidos, que favorecen los contornos, las texturas. Además, en el viejo televisor crt, su resolución ayudaba con el dithering, que generaba gradientes y mejor impresión de colores en la pantalla.

[@JoseMarques9090]

@@hopetagulos Estas diciendo que mega drives tiene mejores colores que Super Nintendo? Estas borracho?

[@JMFSpike]

I don't think I've ever come across any SNES fans whining about special chips being used, but it sounds very unreasonable. Nobody complained about them back in the day when they were used for games like Star Fox, Super Mario RPG, Yoshi's Island, Super Mario Kart, Mega Man X2 & X3, and Kirby Super Star. If they're needed or they improve the game significantly in some way, they should definitely be used. The fact is that the SNES was freakin' slow and couldn't do legit 3D graphics on it's own. Many great SNES games would have never existed on the console without special chips, and some games that didn't have special chips should have. For example, Lemmings should have had a special chip to improve the framerate. Go to a level with a whole bunch of lemmings, wait until they're all out, nuke them, and watch the SNES struggle like you've never seen before. Now do the same with the Genesis version and you'll notice that it struggles a whole lot less (yes, even the Genesis does struggle a little bit, but it handles the game far better.)

[@cesarvalleys901]

Yo hice 2 ports de Xeno Crisis para la XBOX Clásica el primero que hice fue el Xeno Crisis de la SEGA Génesis porque me gustó mucho el juego y me imaginé verlo en mi Consola XBOX Clásica el 2do fue el Xeno Crisis de la NEO GEO MVS y la verdad fue en éste Ports dónde pude terminar el juego ahora voy a hacer el Ports de Xeno Crisis de la NeoCD dónde creo será el más parecido a qué si existiera en una XBOX Clásica me gustaría poder comprar la versión de Xeno Crisis de la N64 y yo con gusto me compraré la de SNES en estos días me voy a comprar la ISO de la GAMECUBE, Saludos.

[@GuardiRock]

Cómo nos vamos a creer que has hecho dos ports de Xeno Crisis. Si no has sido capaz de poner una puta coma en todo tu texto 😂

[@cesarvalleys901]

@@GuardiRock Ese es tu punto de vista muy estúpido por cierto, me di cuenta de mis errores de ortografía más no quise modificar el texto pero me doy cuenta que tú comentario es más envidia que otra cosa. Te puedo puedo compartir mi ISO y dejarte sin comentarios.

[@MarkoTulio]

❤❤❤❤❤❤❤

[@mleolv426]

Great video. Shame all you did was talk about the SNES the whole time.

[@igodreamer7096]

The audio output is in reverse here. :(

[@wilderness_over]

Sega genesis

[@hrungnir00008psp]

Why are enemies coming out of a room that was “clear”?

[@NEONMADARA]

Tengo una duda, saldrá un cartucho original del juego para snes???

[@mrjab6313]

Sip

[@NEONMADARA]

@@mrjab6313 vaya muchas gracias por la confirmación amigo ahora a esperar a que salga a la venta y regularmente en qué página venden éstos juegos?

[@jsr734]

@@NEONMADARA Tendrás que buscar en su sitio web quizás. Pero ni se te ocurra escribir un comentario con el enlace a la página o los Bots de YT te borrarán el comentario. 🤫

[@mrjab6313]

@@NEONMADARA creo que los dev tienen página donde puedes comprar el cartucho o en este caso reservarlo pero desconozco si tiene posibilidad de envío a países latinos

[@MudSluggerBP]

You missed out the Evercade on the list of ports

[@nostrnastr9439]

Espera porque agregar un chip facilita la programación del juego en snes ?? No es justo lo contrario hay agregar chip debes programar el juego para que se cordine el chip con el hardware de snes ?? Porque es más complicado ? Eso debería ser al revés no tener chip implica programar de forma nativa con el hardware de la consola implicamdo no tener que poner pasos extras decirle a la consola usa x chip del cartucho para x parte de x efecto del juego

[@Antronix3]

I feel since they are making this game for all mainline consoles from the Genesis onward, they should at least take advantage of the hardware Like they are doing the SNES. The N64 should of had polygonal characters and particle effects and so on. Not just port the Genesis game to everything. That's how the games would have been if it was made at the time.

[@tita4359]

This game’s history is so strange. They should’ve just used the extra money from the kickstarter to actually improve the game, rather than use it to make ports on every system under the sun to slightly extend their profits. I mean seriously, why does this game need a GameCube, ps2 etc version? They prioritize stuff like that, when there are glaring flaws with the game like terrible final boss that’s a pushover even on hard, padded length where the levels drag on far too long rather than just add 1-2 more levels, expand upon the infinity mode and game mechanics etc. there are too many flaws in the game for it to be such a barebones experience. And the game is not even very hard. I beat hard on my 4th attempt, but there’s nothing else really to do. Which is fine as it echoes game design of the past, but even the scoring systems are not well designed for score chasing and will boil down to getting the right seeds that drop more NPCs to save. Replaying the campaign is a drag because it’s a 35 minute game extended to almost an hour because the levels make you just do the same rooms over and over and over become a slogfest without changing things up enough to be interesting

[@mrreece8986]

I've got this for evercade 👍

[@AnimaBits]

Esse jogo tá virando o doom da nova geração, vai ser portado até pra NES se duvidar kkkk

[@javiergonzalezcalvo1544]

N64 wins on general

[@dimelo8826]

N64 for this one. And it’s a more modern console anyway with better controls. The SNES version beat the Genesis version in all comparison videos in graphics, gameplay, color, sound, music, with the exception of the slight widescreen etc. and the N64 is almost identical to the SNES version with a bit better graphic rendition so N64 over genesis is the obvious choice here.

[@periclesalvesberto938]

Isso é meia dúzia de malucos falando bobagem se alguém criar uma forma de melhorar os jogos de qualquer console eu vou ver isso com bons olhos

[@JoseMarques9090]

Nesse caso não foi pra melhorar. Foi só pra acelerar a produção e evitar a pirataria mesmo

[@periclesalvesberto938]

@@JoseMarques9090 mas isso trouxe algum problema de desempenho para essa versão?

[@JoseMarques9090]

@@periclesalvesberto938 Só pra o bolso dos gamers. Por ser um chip desnecessário será um gasto a mais. Cartucho mais caro, etc.

[@MrNono6400]

You forgot the Evercade port in your list :)

[@enedilsonmartins4234]

Embora não tenha uma diferença assim muito gritante, de um console para o outro, o que eu acho legal e que o Nintendo 64 ganhou um jogo novo pra complementar a sua biblioteca.

[@sheltontristania]

O maior deserviço é a existência dessa galera que reclamou do que o Vilela fez ou do que alguém fizer. São um bando de saco de vermes fazendo volume na terra que só sabem criticar e nunca programaram uma linha de códico se quer na vida. É por causa de restos de barata desses que muitos devs desistem de seus projetos. Fico feliz que os consoles da Nintendo estejam recebendo um game com tamanha qualidade. Não é sempre que isso acontece, os programadores estão de parabéns!

[@admazorca]

Calma ai, eu reclamo sim e com propriedade, colocar chip especial em jogos que não precisa, e vc acha que está certo? Ele colocava sa1 em jogos slowrom sendo que é só passar para fastrom.

[@PauloRoberto-qp7yp]

@@admazorca o snes é complicado de programar hj em dia sem os dev kits então pode ser que eles apenas não souberam otimizar sem o chip

[@admazorca]

@@PauloRoberto-qp7yp pior que não foi isso, foi pra acelerar o desenvolvimento, o fastrom é mais fácil pq vc só vai a leitura do jogo no banco rápido do processamento, o sa1 vc tem que otimizar os códigos para fazer o chip funcionar no banco rápidos ou lentos.

[@fellipealcantara3191]

​@@admazorcaVocê passa jogo slow ROM para fast ROM?

[@admazorca]

@@fellipealcantara3191 foge de s kas, e se quiser um bem profundo usa o Bass, é um ótimo compilador.

[@PONTOCRITICO]

Eu acho que já se chegou a o um consenso do que é o hardware do SNES. Os fanboys da Nintendo sempre se revoltam quando se toca na questão do processador central 5A22 e eles não aceitam algo que é simplesmente uma realidade: não adianta querer tirar leite de pedra. Ele é muito inferior ao M68000 do Neo Geo, do Mega Drive e das placas arcade. Logo usar chips de expansão nos cartuchos sempre foi essencial pra Nintendo, fosse no Famicom (alguns exclusivos pro Japão), fosse pro SNES. O Famicom, porém, foi um sistema muito melhor elaborado desde o início e usou todos os recursos possíveis durante sua vida útil, enquanto o SNES se viu nerfado pela escolha de uma CPU inadequada para as capacidades nativas do chip de vídeo, que eram consideráveis. Logo, não adianta reclamar de algo que não pode ser mudado, o SNES é desse jeito e ainda bem que dá pra contornar o problema com chips especiais. O problema é só que eles aumentam o preço dos cartuchos...

[@JonBR-622]

Xenocrisis não tem nada demais tecnicamente que seja difícil para o Snes processar. O próprio criador do jogo respondeu um comentário dizendo que poderia ter feito sem chip, mas usou ele para acelerar o desenvolvimento do jogo e para evitar pirataria como aconteceu com a versão do Mega Drive e do Neo Geo.

[@fellipealcantara3191]

​@@JonBR-622Paprium, que foi citado no vídeo, mandou lembranças em se tratando de jogo de Mega não pirateado.

[@fellipealcantara3191]

Costumo dizer que as especificações do SNES são teóricas já que o processador central não permite que o SNES alcance o essas especificações de forma aceitável. Um exemplo: qual jogo utiliza a resolução máxima teórica do console em gameplay e qual o resultado? Nem mesmo a Nintendo lançou jogo com essa resolução.

[@JonBR-622]

@@fellipealcantara3191 A resolução não tem nada a ver com a CPU. Quem cuida dessa parte é a S-PPU, o problema mesmo de usar a alta resolução é que ela consome mais VRAM, então o desenvolvedor tem que se ligar no que vai fazer. Mas estão produzindo um shmup bullet hell para o Snes que vai usar a alta resolução. Muito top. Vai calar a boca de muitos aí.

[@fellipealcantara3191]

@@JonBR-622 Então você está dizendo que a PPU também é um fator limitante no SNES? 🤔 Não acha no mínimo curioso apenas um único jogo usar a resolução máxima do SNES em gameplay?

[@jsr734]

They don´t want the Snes version using special chips because VCDecide will make a video stating how inferior the Snes port is for using it. 😆 Using Fastrom hacks really improves performance on badly programmed games, for example it removes most instances of slowdown in the original Final Fight. I think Fast Rom (120ns access speed) was more expensive than slow rom (200ns acces time) because of reliability at faster operation speeds. I wonder what access speeds were used in Sega Genesis rom chips? 🤔 Both the Nes and Master System use enhancement chips. They are called "mappers" on the Nes and "paging chips" on the Master System. I think it will be interesting to watch a comparisson between the Nes and Master System with games that don´t use any extra mapper or paging chip. 💡😁 Finally, and i think out of topic? 🙃 I prefer the N64 version look a little bit over the Genesis one and the added voice acting and analog stick is also a plus.

[@dan_perry]

You really don't want to open up the can of worms that is the stock mapper-less NES games vs stock SMS games.

[@spicybreadproductions1972]

@@dan_perry I do. 😈

[@spicybreadproductions1972]

The Megadrive has no equivalent to a FastROM, but some hardware models do have a clock speed flag that I think doubles there CPU processing rate, but it’s incredibly stupid as it can especially harm the Z80 CPU in particular

[@jsr734]

@@spicybreadproductions1972 I was meaning the speed access of rom chips used in Megadrive/Genesis game carts. Of course the Megadrive´s 68000 doesn´t work in variable clock rates as the Snes does. But i was wondering what would happen if rom chips stated for 200ns or less access speed were used in Genesis/Megadrive games? Would that affect the relieability of such games?, Would the game cart stop working after a period of time?.

[@jsr734]

@@spicybreadproductions1972 Me too. I think it could be really interesting, but still may be a bit unfair as the Famicom/Nes was getting games from 1983 to 1985 when the first mapper game seems to have been Jaleco´s City Connection. That is of course if we don´t count the mapper used in Family Basic. The Master System released in 1986 will have fewer games to compare.

[@demonology2629]

Respectively this should have been NEO-GEO AES vs Nintendo 64!

[@ClevertonHeusner]

Trabalhei com o Vitor Vilela. Se existe alguém com propriedade para falar do hardware do Snes, essa pessoa é ele.

[@MsonicBoom]

SNES inferior ao Master System sem os chips especiais do seu conjunto?

[@fellipealcantara3191]

NES not SNES. That is what she said.

[@joaquimneto7607]

KKKKKKKK...

[@Obviousthrowawayaccount]

N64 wins due to colour depth, performance and sound quality but I mean is it even fair lol

[@shuniorjuniorsantos2830]

Alguien tiene la Rom para la N64?

[@TiagoxInside]

SNES version not work? CPU is burning?? kkkkk

[@meathead6155]

This game got voices acting?

[@edileianascimento7453]

Você gamers devem começar a compreender que cada console tem suas PECULIARIDADES. Falando dos 16 bits, assim como o Mega drive tem jogos que jamais será vencido pelo Super Nintendo, com chip ou sem chip, pelo outro lado o Super Nintendo tem jogos que jamais será vencido pelo Mega drive. Cada um desses consoles tem suas magias encantadoras. Quer saber? Pra não ficar para trás, tenho os dois.

[@roadkill_52]

Perfeito, é isso mesmo

[@Devilhelll]

E a resolução da tela do mega ainda esta maior que a do lixo64 😂😂

[@JoseMarques9090]

Me lembrou o Sega CD e 32X não conseguindo superar o Fatal Fury Special e Mortal Kombat 2 do Super Nintendo kkkkk 😂😂😂

[@Devilhelll]

@@JoseMarques9090 versão do 32x tem varias coisas que não tem no snes, e o audio do sega cd humilha e o jogo é tela inteira e não com barras na horizontal como no snes... Mas esta correndo do mega drive pq ai vemos a grande diferença do fatal fury que tem igual pra ambos... Fatal fury do snes com 2 barras pretas em cima e em baixo e as barras de life na tela, personagens e cenário tudo menor, falta de movimentos, etc... o mega tem apenas uma barra preta em cima porem a tela fica totalmente limpa pq o life fica em cima com personagens bem maiores e cenário tbm.. é uma surra!!!

[@JoseMarques9090]

@@Devilhelll Viajou. Até os canais meguistas consideram o MK2 do Super Nintendo melhor que o 32X. O Fatal Fury Special mesmo o mega drive com add on de CD (Sega CD) Mesmo assim a versão do Super Nintendo é melhor! 😃

[@Devilhelll]

@@JoseMarques9090 sim agora fala do mk1, mk3 ate da uma igualada mas e o umk3? Veja qual se sair melhor na maioria rsrs. Pois é... ja fatal fury 2 só o mega é estupidamente melhor que a versão de snes.

[@Obviousthrowawayaccount]

This is utterly false lol, both use 320x240 and some N64 games use 400x440 and one at 640x480

[@robone9978]

n64 i think its more blurry, strange it can output 640x480....

[@X2011racer]

Is it running on that resolution in this game? Generally, Hi-Res screens tend to slow to a crawl.

[@Rafael_Francisco]

Que bobagem essa discussão do chip, o SNES desde 1990 foi criado pensando que os cartuchos viriam com diversos chips para aumentar o potencial dos jogos. Os "puristas" deveriam renegar jogos como Star Fox ou Mario RPG então.

[@1hellgames]

Entao posso venerar o mega drive por conseguir fazer escalonamento, audio em cd e pode fazer 32.768 cores simultaneas? e ser considerado um 32bits? Pq se vc pode falar assim do snesm eu posso falar assim do mega usando o 32x e sega cd....

[@Rafael_Francisco]

Por mim pode fazer o que vc quiser cara. Apesar de eu não achar simétrica a comparação. Existiam tb alguns poucos jogos de mega que tinham chips extras sem precisar de periféricos como o 32x e o Mega CD. O Virtua Racing é o exemplo mais famoso, o cartucho era até um pouco maior que o tamanho padrão de um cartucho de mega.

[@JoseMarques9090]

​@@Rafael_FranciscoSNES rodaria esse jogo sem chip mais rápido que o mega se problema algum. Se bem programado da um banho de velocidade no meguinha. Como mostrado em Super Smash TV

[@blastproces]

you can see technically the n64 is the superior version

[@richarddean8882]

Ate pq o snes é mais poderoso que o mega drive.

[@roadkill_52]

Não é. O CPU do Super Nintendo (Ricoh 5A22) é extremamente fraco e comparável a um console 8-bits. É por isso que dificilmente você encontrará jogos de ação mais rápidos e com mais sprites na tela como Gunstar Heroes, Contra Hardcorps (que é muito mais intenso que o Contra 4) ou Thunder Force 4. O Super Nintendo é um ótimo console e tem a vantagem de poder rodar efeitos no hardware, mas ele é bem menos poderoso que o Mega.

[@JoseMarques9090]

@@roadkill_52 O CPU do mega não é mais forte. Só tem um clock mais alto. Thunder Force 4 mesmo é um jogo bonito, mas cheio de slowdowns. O mega tem jogos de nave melhores na minha opinião. Pra mim o jogo que demonstra bem o potencial do mega drive sem slowdown algum é o Gynoug. Mas em contrapartida o Snes tem Space Megaforce. Também poderoso e visualmente incrível sem slowdown nenhum também, muita ação e sprite na tela. Os processadores dos dois sistemas tem estilos de programação diferentes. Em desempenho e velocidade são bem equiparados. Muitas vezes o Snes se mostrou mais rápido e fluido que o mega como em Super Smash TV.

[@JoseMarques9090]

@@roadkill_52 Super Swiv e Super Smash TV são jogos com bastante sprite e ação na tela que ficaram mais fluidos e mais rápidos no Super Nintendo.

[@jamesytez6639]

2019, not 1999

[@bmwisetta300]

O SNES foi pensado justamente para usar Chips especiais nos cartuchos...não entendo esses caras ..

[@1hellgames]

huhum ta bom, então o mega drive foi pensado justamente pra usar o 32x e sega cd, posso usar essa desculpa tbm?

[@bmwisetta300]

@@1hellgames Bom , isso não é desculpa! Creio que você desconhece a história desse console. No próprio lançamento dele já teve jogo que utilizava chip especial, o F Zero. Ele foi projetado justamente para ultilizar os mesmos! Segue um trecho tirado na internet que relata isso com mais clareza: "Como parte do plano geral para o SNES, em vez de incluir um processador mais caro que posteriormente se tornaria obsoleto em alguns anos, os designers de hardware implementaram chips auxiliares nos cartuchos. Isso é mais caracterizado pelos 16 pinos adicionais na borda da placa do cartucho."

[@JoseMarques9090]

​@@1hellgamesMas o Snes se bem programado da um banho no meguinha em velocidade. O motivo de usarem esse chip é pra evitar a pirataria.

[@1hellgames]

@@JoseMarques9090 E vc acreditou no contido dos canais nintendistas que vc frequenta? Rapaz, nem a bitmap esta sustentando mais essa farsa. Voce sabia que existe pirataria a rodo de cartuchos de nintendo 64 tbm?

[@1hellgames]

@@bmwisetta300 perfeito, sendo assim vc mesmo assume esse assunto dos nintendista que vivem se gabando contando a farsa de que o snes é muito superior ao mega, sendo que no lado da sega apenas 1 jogo usou chips especiais.

[@pixhell]

wow... I don't realise the SNES fan club was so upset by the use of a SA-1 chips. it's really immature! I can understand those reactions IF the SNES never use this chip in particular on others games... but the use of SA-1 ( in particular ) was use really often for games and majority's of those games far less impressive than Xenocrisis. and and don't speaking for all the others chips use in a variety of game's on the SNES. clearly.... SNES needs help! and the console was made with that in mind during its conception. the SNES can do marvellous graphical effect, nice sound ( i'm not sure about that... but it's personal) , but just have not enough calcuting power. even if the SNES was a better hardware conception compare to the sega Megadrive for exemple.

[@JoseMarques9090]

SNES ia faster than genesis If well programmed. As shown in Super Smash TV

[@albertodiez4215]

Los falsos fans que siguen siendo unos niñatos mientras peinan canas. Por eso las maquinas de sega tienen montones de juegos homebrew mientras que las maquinas equivalentes de nintendo tienen muy pocas, ademas de las razones tecnicas: hasta la saturn sega usaba chips genericos mientras nintendo usaba custom chips. Eso facilita mucho las cosas para los fans de sega: es infinitamente mas facil encontrar documentacion y hay mejor soporte en los kits de desarrollo homebrew

[@JoseMarques9090]

Lo tienen montones de juegos homebrew porque son más fáciles de hacer en el hardware mega drive

[@KeyDesh]

Very Hard

[@alexsandrovinicius8510]

Espero que a nintendo nao os processe

[@alubaldini]

SNES very superior

[@euphorik3120]

Genesis is better because it doesn't have that lousy voice acting audio at the intro 🙄

[@thepeller210]

WHY!!!!

[@timskamlam1242]

Me parece que a versão do mega é mais difícil..

[@thiagofarias7411]

Lembra o Robotron.

[@jonathanjoleanis4014]

Siento que la versión de N64 pudo ser mejor ya que soporta cartuchos de hasta 64MB de almacenamiento. En cambio, la Megadrive apenas puede con cartuchos de 15MB sí no estoy mal.

[@apache4739]

Mas o do Nintendo 64 é melhor. É apenas um port,não seria certo mudar tanto para outras versões ,perderia o interesse pois se uma versão for tão superior chamaria mais atenção, e as vendas de determinado sistema não venderia tão bem.

[@jsr734]

No, la Megadrive sólo llega hasta 4Mbytes o 32Mbits. Más allá de eso se necesita un mapper.

[@jonathanjoleanis4014]

@@jsr734 Lo digo por hay juegos para megadrive que pesan hasta 15MB. Demons of Asteborg, Astebros que son juegos nuevos o Mortal Kombat Trilogy que es un hack rom...

[@jsr734]

@@jonathanjoleanis4014 Sí que yo sepa, esos juegos deben estar usando algún mapper o lógica de circuitos dentro del cartucho que proporcione acceso a más memoria rom.

[@jonathanjoleanis4014]

@@jsr734 Bueno, la verdad no tengo idea, yo sólo digo lo que sé...

[@MsonicBoom]

Babaquice de quem fica a vida inteira de mínimi.

[@hopetagulos]

N64 Wins: Cores menos desbotadas, vozes com narração e efeitos sonoros mais cristalinos.

[@dan_perry]

Well that's obvious....the n64 game at 64 mb is twice as big.

[@damin9913]

Sega Genesis version is much better!😊

[@Peliculasalmaximo]

Link d ela version n64 es paga😅😅😅😅