Xiaomi Full Self Driving & Parking Autopilot AI - WAY Better than Tesla FSD?!

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Xiaomi SU7 Autonomous Driving & No Driver Self Parking Deep Dive vs Tesla FSD Autopilot - Which is better? Better Than Tesla Autopilot Part 2
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@Jonathantuba
@Jonathantuba 9 ай бұрын
I have driven Tesla model Y in China. It is rather chaotic there with very much the feeling of 'those who dare win'. Cars frequently cut off bikes who have to take avoiding action (and lorries may do the same to cars)! Pedestrian crossings are generally not observed (although they will stop if you have the nerve to step out in front), and like the US turning right on red is permitted. That Xiaomi demonstration is impressive. I only let the Tesla drive using Autopilot on duel carriageways/motorways while in China :)
@CaptainROC-hs2yn
@CaptainROC-hs2yn 6 ай бұрын
FSD isn’t available in China yet.
@Poxenium
@Poxenium 9 ай бұрын
This is waymo and/or cruise approach. For low speeds its OK, if you have backup drivers at the HQ, ready to take over remotely.
@TsukiAkarii
@TsukiAkarii 9 ай бұрын
This is one that would actually function in the Caribbean. I'm impressed
@SinergiaAlUnisono
@SinergiaAlUnisono 9 ай бұрын
I would love to watch some of the well known Tesla Drivers in the US, Chuck, Dirty Tesla, etc. Test drive and compare to this vehicle.
@TeslaDriver
@TeslaDriver 9 ай бұрын
When they open up free test drives of the tech we will know it’s nearly there, sadly as it’s all behind closed doors and we only get these snippets we won’t truly know how close to FSD BETA they are :/
@MChagall
@MChagall 9 ай бұрын
As long as an indepent person will not drive the car we don´t know if its not pre programmed to drive somewhere just like what Tesla have done in the past
@TeamYankee2
@TeamYankee2 9 ай бұрын
The parking bit looks amazing.. as for the rest.. not so much really. the hid a lot by speeding it up..
@crabbypattyRobloxgod
@crabbypattyRobloxgod 9 ай бұрын
For people that don’t know, the model s long range refresh has a limited 0 to 60 of 3 seconds and is capable of 2.3. The top speed of 250 kmh is a huge limiter and it would easily be able to go 300+
@London_Native
@London_Native 9 ай бұрын
If you are branching out into all car AI and self driving, which I think is a good idea, have you seen Sony’s presentation from CES, regarding their car project called AFEELA? It’s worth a watch. Could make a good video topic for you.
@HairyCheese
@HairyCheese 9 ай бұрын
Impressive. Do they use augmented environment data like the ride share vehicles? Like a fixed point at traffic lights or a complex location sharing data with any vehicles listening?
@johans7119
@johans7119 9 ай бұрын
Impressive and Tesla needs the competition
@teknosql4740
@teknosql4740 6 ай бұрын
Tesla will lost to compete with chinese EV, since china have cutting edge tech
@martincday007
@martincday007 9 ай бұрын
The Xiaomi's onboard display seemed to lack a lot of detail that Tesla shows. It was hard to see but the traffic lights didn't seem to be shown so it may be a case that it knows more of the surrounding environment than is shown on the screen. Tesla seems to pick up on other vehicles' break and turn signals which seemed to be absent in the Xiaomi's display. Being able to reverse out from a forward no-win situation was impressive, as far as I am aware Tesla FSD does not do reverse. Tesla seems to see through gaps at a lot of periphery objects such as picking up on a row of parked vehicles on the left when turning right, impressive but ultimately a waste of processing power. The Xiaomi seemed to ignore everything in front when turning right. I would imagine it does know everything in front just not displaying it. Tesla is considered by many to be the gold standard of vehicle automation when the reality is that they do not often feature in top ten lists of advance vehicle autonomy, so maybe Tesla is the wrong reference to use. The vehicles specs were impressive and I can't see how having less and not more sensors gets anyone to level 3.
@MrJamiez
@MrJamiez 8 ай бұрын
Tesla are badly designed, way too many panel gaps.
@CaptainROC-hs2yn
@CaptainROC-hs2yn 6 ай бұрын
I think XiaoMi is one of the customers using Nvidia’s virtual reality to train its robots; autonomous cars in their case.
@peterswinson326
@peterswinson326 9 ай бұрын
I think Tesla should be a little bit worried, it depends on the speed of progress of both firms and how well the different sensors can work together on the Xiaomi, I'm still not sure why Tesla's don't have more cameras and sensors when there are so many blind spots and advantages to be had by having at least more cameras.The parking looks a bit better than the full self driving but not sure how much is in the edit. The next 2-4 years will be critical in all of this as Tesla expand, the question is how many cars will Xiaomi be able to produce and in what countries, as we know the skill is in ramping up mass production
@Poxenium
@Poxenium 9 ай бұрын
no, this will not work. They have too many types of sensors and too many different subsytems combined. Tesla is taking the camera inputs intothe neural nets without any preprocessing and the output is the car controls. What you see on the screen is duct taped together by the MCU from the Autopilot computer's data. You can't get a better result with any other sensor suite.
@peterswinson326
@peterswinson326 9 ай бұрын
I guess processing power is probably limiting the ability to add more cameras at present with Tesla, also they want to gather enough data with the existing setup to train the neural nets and any changes with ruin the training, like you say if you're going vision in controls out, putting extra sensors in will make things a lot harder, although I wouldn't rule it out if you had enough processing power and the right integration @@Poxenium
@89bazoly
@89bazoly 9 ай бұрын
With the chips, sensors and battery and motors in the car it will cost probably more than twice the price of model 3
@JaimeLee-wr7rx
@JaimeLee-wr7rx 8 ай бұрын
The reality is Tesla can’t auto park as well as this car. Tesla can’t reverse the car using FSD!.
@peterswinson326
@peterswinson326 8 ай бұрын
I don't see why not, I guess we'll see with v12 as it'll be trained on millions of people parking@@JaimeLee-wr7rx
@chriscovella1371
@chriscovella1371 9 ай бұрын
Seems like great tech. Question I would have is -can they sell the car for a profit? If they lose $10,000+ per vehicle then all for nothing.
@jamesl5961
@jamesl5961 5 ай бұрын
Chinese EV market is ultra competitive, right now everyone's focus is mainly on market share to topple down the competition, which means they better have deep pockets. I think it's going to take some time before they start seeing a profit.
@nighthawk8412
@nighthawk8412 9 ай бұрын
Great video. I think that the parking garage scenes were scripted. But the fact that it can display so much detail about what it interprets of the world around it as well as drive itself (even when scripted) is amazing. But in 10 years time that will not be that impressive. However, Tesla is ahead of them because FSD beta is in Canada and the US. In August 2022, Reuters said that Xiaomi's version of Autopilot/FSD beta is only running on 140 vehicles in China.
@TeslaDriver
@TeslaDriver 9 ай бұрын
Thanks :) Yes I agree with it all. They said in the presentation they currently have 200 cars running it which I thought was surprisingly low but they do have a lot of other teams who’ve worked on AI and other tech for years so hopefully they can all marry up 🤞🏽
@cafl9844
@cafl9844 9 ай бұрын
Yes but Tesla hasn't even got their Level 3 driving licence yet while this may will get it ! The others never really showed what they have. I always said we can't be sure if Tesla is really ahead of everybody else as we don't know what the others are developing behind closed doors ! Well I don't care anyway as I like relying on my driving!
@hedonismbot1508
@hedonismbot1508 9 ай бұрын
@@cafl9844There's also the matter that every step forward in autonomous driving seems to uncover even harder problems to solve. Plus you have a variety of different strategies - Waymo and Cruise with tons of sensors, Tesla with just a few cameras and a GPS unit, and these guys somewhere in between. There's also Tesla's all-AI approach which could easily prove to be better at handling the nuances of real-world driving than traditional rules-based programming. So we may not rightly know who's ahead until someone crosses the finish line.
@kiankhan07
@kiankhan07 9 ай бұрын
Would love to see more testing of the driver assistance systems from other vehicles and how they compare to tesla
@Chainz45
@Chainz45 9 ай бұрын
This would never make it past the EU given how restricted FSD is in the UK, however, I do wonder if someone imported one how it would do on UK roads.
@TeslaDriver
@TeslaDriver 9 ай бұрын
They said in the presentation they aim for end of year 2024, which would collide with the Uk regulators push for level 4 autonomy at the start of 2025… I also think it would be region locked so probably useless in the UK, for now
@Chainz45
@Chainz45 9 ай бұрын
@@TeslaDriver You never know, they could just use a VPN 😂
@kevinoneill2090
@kevinoneill2090 9 ай бұрын
Interesting how it showed all the road markings on the screen, even though they were not visible due to the snow, clearly a pre- programmed route. I like Xiaomi products, but I'm a bit sceptical of this self-driving video.
@TeslaDriver
@TeslaDriver 9 ай бұрын
Yeh they said something along the lines of it’s a route around their headquarters but also said it was all end to end by the car, will be interesting to see how it progresses
@pluckyrichmax
@pluckyrichmax 8 ай бұрын
Is this car going to be sold in the Uk. And if so will it be completely ottomans?
@reud10
@reud10 5 ай бұрын
Tesla strategy is simple, but genius: focus as much as you can in the tesla vision. Put all your effort in that technology until no more can be done with todays technology, because implement lidar, sensors and others is a walk in the park. Other brands have "good" car vision, good sensors and good lidar. Tesla is looking for incredible vision, good lidar and good sensors.
@TimothyWhiteheadzm
@TimothyWhiteheadzm 9 ай бұрын
The primary task in full self driving is accurately identifying what is in the world around you, their positions and motions. Neither this car nor Tesla are there yet. In both cars I see objects jumping around, appearing and disappearing, not being shown at all etc. Assuming the screen is an accurate representation of what the car thinks is out there, that is simply not good enough. Yes what they have will work in 90% of situations or even possibly 99.9%, but that simply isn't good enough to take you hands off the wheel. The thing is we really don't know what it will take to get much more accurate models of the world.
@club6525
@club6525 9 ай бұрын
The screen does not necessarily show all objects. The occupancy grid shows details but the screen display attempts to find the closest known object match.
@TimothyWhiteheadzm
@TimothyWhiteheadzm 9 ай бұрын
@@club6525 That makes sense. Where I live (Zambia) until a self driving car can tell the difference between a plastic bag and a rock on the road, it will not be able to drive fully autonomously. Current tech doesn't even reliably identify humans which is downright dangerous without an alert driver ready to take over. I believe it will get there but the requirements to do so are unknown. My guess would be better cameras/other sensors are a must for bad weather/night conditions and more processing power will be required than is currently tesla's or this xioami.
@TeslaDriver
@TeslaDriver 9 ай бұрын
Yeh the final degrees of accuracy will be incredibly hard. They said in the presentation they can build a world model at 10cm cuboids in a free flow state which is very impressive where are Tesla is around 20-30cm cubes. Going to be an interesting race for the final percentages!
@club6525
@club6525 9 ай бұрын
@@TimothyWhiteheadzm Perhaps but Xiaomi has a nice suite. According to Tesla, they only utilize 1/3 - 2/3 of the computer while running FSDb though.
@crabbypattyRobloxgod
@crabbypattyRobloxgod 9 ай бұрын
@@TeslaDriverwhat the car displays is not even close to what the car can actually see, and I am saying this as someone who works for Tesla.
@LeiffNathanAMendoza
@LeiffNathanAMendoza 9 ай бұрын
Way to go Xiaomi indeed great review
@maddie99448
@maddie99448 9 ай бұрын
Awesome upload, please keep them coming! ❤️
@TMCNJ
@TMCNJ 9 ай бұрын
BYD are already wiping the floor with Tesla. This might be the beginning of the end of the monopoly game for Tesla
@TeslaDriver
@TeslaDriver 9 ай бұрын
Interestingly enough I was looking at the BYD seal, I think it looks great! Biggest issue next will be a charging network, that’s the next big domino to fall I think
@BusTrainsGuy18
@BusTrainsGuy18 9 ай бұрын
This is absolutely amazing, the video really showed what this company can do more than what Tesla can do. If I could afford it would buy it but I can’t. I would definitely go for this than a Tesla but I would need to see build quality and reliability first because Tesla build quality is a bit 50/50 and the design is a bit bland but aerodynamic but Xiaomi clearly put loads of effort and thought into it.
@SirHargreeves
@SirHargreeves 9 ай бұрын
Never buy Chinese over an American company.
@Noksus
@Noksus 9 ай бұрын
If they ever try to bring this to Europe I would expect a lawsuit from Porsche over the design as it looks VERY similar to Porsche's. And apparently Xiaomi is specifically trying to compete with Porsche, so it stinks even more of blatant copying. Copyright laws might be lax in China but good luck trying to bring that here.
@markmilligan6616
@markmilligan6616 9 ай бұрын
If you haven't yet you should check out Wayve who are training their system in London
@TeslaDriver
@TeslaDriver 9 ай бұрын
I have been following Wayne for a while, one of only a few companies showing some progress in the UK especially when it comes to working with regulators. I’ll try reach out and see if I can get a ride 😂👍🏽
@geomacaulay
@geomacaulay 9 ай бұрын
Imo without sideways radar at the bumper, tesla wont be able to navigate tight multi story carparks as well.
@JJ-tr6rx
@JJ-tr6rx 8 ай бұрын
I've got a xiaomi robot vacuum. when that thing can function properly, maybe I will trust their self driving cars.
@nutsandy7183
@nutsandy7183 9 ай бұрын
If it can do all that then awesome… but it lwaves me with a LOT of questions
@petersort2192
@petersort2192 9 ай бұрын
I expect Elon will be looking closely at the software to see if its his like he did with Xpang , Any compertion is good Elon needs a kick up the bum ether that he should stop saying FSD is coming tomorrow
@club6525
@club6525 9 ай бұрын
Honestly, I would expect it to perform better than FSD given its comprehensive suite of sensors. With that many sensors, they will require 1/10th of the data that Tesla has to reach an equal or higher point. It's also crucial to note how they are a smartphone company, originally. The idea of occupancy grids dates back to the 1980's but Tesla has just began using the technique in around 2021. Contrasting to Xiaomi's approach, smartphones implemented transformers with a few years of "Attention Is All You Need" being out. The industry moves just that much faster so I think Xiaomi Pilot was be just that much better.
@erwile
@erwile 9 ай бұрын
Even if they detect everything on the road (currently it seems that Tesla can see and act better) they can have driving-control problem like Tesla have with pre-v12 version. I don't think Xiaomi is using AI for driving, but Tesla is learning to drive with a small transformer, no labeling, no binary thinking, just neural nets. You can drive really well with a lot of obstruction with your eyes looking forward 70% of the time.
@club6525
@club6525 9 ай бұрын
@@erwile Xiaomi is using the AI for driving. End-to-end per their recent paper on end-to-end multi-task vehicle control and navigation in complex dynamic environments with multi-modal sensor fusion.
@erwile
@erwile 9 ай бұрын
@@club6525 that's cool! In this video it seems quite robotic for an end-to-end approach, but yeah if it's the case Tesla has a really good competitor. Tesla has just more experience and data, and data is the key
@MichaelGeorge161
@MichaelGeorge161 9 ай бұрын
I've said in the past that it'll be 2035 for the technology to peak, will I be right? Will it come sooner...
@bogdanivchenko3723
@bogdanivchenko3723 9 ай бұрын
If we believe tesla marketing vids then it's also perfect. If real youtubers review it then I'll believe it. Cars self-drivng in the garage was done in 80s. Unless it's a shipping feature it's not impressive.
@imjody
@imjody 9 ай бұрын
8:49 - Uh, you can clearly tell they're using a green screen here. Look at the outlines of the hand and arm when the driver goes to tap the screen... 😂
@TeslaDriver
@TeslaDriver 9 ай бұрын
Wait which bit do you think is green screen? The human to the car or the car to the outside world? Or the screen itself? I’ve watched this bit back a few times and seems fine imo, it’s not the highest quality video so maybe distortion? 🤔
@imjody
@imjody 9 ай бұрын
@@TeslaDriver looking around the driver's fingers when he goes to press the screen. This is definitely green screen. Might just be the screen itself that is green screened as they may not have that part completed yet. Not quite sure. But it's definitely not just normal video.
@kikihun9726
@kikihun9726 9 ай бұрын
Yeah.. lidar is a big advantage for autonomus driving.
@TeslaDriver
@TeslaDriver 9 ай бұрын
I think Lidar is the real game changer especially now how small and less expensive they are
@kikihun9726
@kikihun9726 9 ай бұрын
@@TeslaDriver i would not say that they are cheaper, but they became a lot smaller for sure.
@thanksreacts
@thanksreacts 9 ай бұрын
You sure someone is not just controlling it
@johans7119
@johans7119 9 ай бұрын
But there is no way they are making a profit on this unless the price is 5X a Tesla, not with all that hardware
@michaelmomanyi6861
@michaelmomanyi6861 9 ай бұрын
Why is everyone saying they will make a loss so the luxeed 7 zeekr 007 with the same autonomous driving hardware are all making loses..have you ever considered that Tesla pricing has just been high because they were pioneers those cars with that hardware are priced at 40 k ussd and they will make profits no one goes into business for losess with their first product nobody.Its just a fact that Tesla pricing is high and they have hot a competitor to check them on that
@michaelmomanyi6861
@michaelmomanyi6861 9 ай бұрын
Why is everyone saying they will make a loss so the luxeed 7 zeekr 007 with the same autonomous driving hardware are all making loses..have you ever considered that Tesla pricing has just been high because they were pioneers those cars with that hardware are priced at 40 k ussd and they will make profits no one goes into business for losess with their first product nobody.Its just a fact that Tesla pricing is high and they have hot a competitor to check them on that
@michaelmomanyi6861
@michaelmomanyi6861 9 ай бұрын
Why is everyone saying they will make a loss so the luxeed 7 zeekr 007 with the same autonomous driving hardware are all making loses..have you ever considered that Tesla pricing has just been high because they were pioneers those cars with that hardware are priced at 40 k ussd and they will make profits no one goes into business for losess with their first product nobody.Its just a fact that Tesla pricing is high and they have hot a competitor to check them on that
@cyberastr4l
@cyberastr4l 9 ай бұрын
30 seconds ago! Hi there!
@AndyRubio1
@AndyRubio1 9 ай бұрын
Surely the video is a simulation?
@_GarethRossUK
@_GarethRossUK 9 ай бұрын
What makes you think that?
@searklarak
@searklarak 9 ай бұрын
How do I know the CCP won't suddenly lock the doors and controls and proceed to hijack the vehicle remotely and suddenly drive the car off a bridge/cliff?
@breadproductions957
@breadproductions957 9 ай бұрын
my phone is xiaomi phone i thought they only made phones but they did this and they have a "robot dog" too
@Walmartwentbroke
@Walmartwentbroke 8 ай бұрын
America's killing the game
@rampak1
@rampak1 9 ай бұрын
I'll believe it when I see a video of you driving it yourself. The video is obviously produced to avoid showing anything bad!
@Noksus
@Noksus 9 ай бұрын
Design ripped off of Porsche?
@theonlybantuh
@theonlybantuh 9 ай бұрын
everyone copies everyone anyway
@Noksus
@Noksus 9 ай бұрын
@@theonlybantuhYeah probably in China where copyright means nothing
@Voltage-v7w
@Voltage-v7w 6 ай бұрын
@@Noksus does Porsche do self driving?
@rj8u
@rj8u 9 ай бұрын
The Tesla model S they compare is the base model S and not the Tesla model S Plaid which can go 0-60 in 2.0 seconds. Nice cherry picking the numbers. Also you can't beat Tesla if you just keep copying their technology 🫣👍💩.
@TeslaDriver
@TeslaDriver 9 ай бұрын
I assume they are comparing base SU7 with base MS and Taycan. The tech in the car is really impressive and imo it looks better than Teslas tech currently, especially when it comes to integration. I highly recommend watching the full presentation 👍🏽👍🏽
@MrJamiez
@MrJamiez 8 ай бұрын
I'd rather have a xiaomi car than a tesla.
@cafl9844
@cafl9844 9 ай бұрын
That's what i have been saying all along ! Everybody keeps saying Tesla is soo far ahead of everybody else but these other companies have done their testing literally behind closed doors without bragging in public !
@_GarethRossUK
@_GarethRossUK 9 ай бұрын
Some of the comments are ignorant of Xiaomi. This isn't just another Chinese company. This might be for china only markets at first but they are a global brand. Why people think code theft occurred and why people think this isn't real.
@FlyWithTyy
@FlyWithTyy 9 ай бұрын
I’ll have to do some research on them. Think Tesla is still ahead?🇺🇸
@michaelmomanyi6861
@michaelmomanyi6861 9 ай бұрын
Some people here are just ignorant others saying they will never make profits with such tech as if they were in the board meeting..how can someone invest billions to come up with a product that will make a loss .. people just don't want to accept that one day Chinese will beat Tesla and they will sell cheaper
@michaelmomanyi6861
@michaelmomanyi6861 9 ай бұрын
Some people here are just ignorant others saying they will never make profits with such tech as if they were in the board meeting..how can someone invest billions to come up with a product that will make a loss .. people just don't want to accept that one day Chinese will beat Tesla and they will sell cheaper
@michaelmomanyi6861
@michaelmomanyi6861 9 ай бұрын
Some people here are just ignorant others saying they will never make profits with such tech as if they were in the board meeting..how can someone invest billions to come up with a product that will make a loss .. people just don't want to accept that one day Chinese will beat Tesla and they will sell cheaper
@michaelmomanyi6861
@michaelmomanyi6861 9 ай бұрын
Some people here are just ignorant others saying they will never make profits with such tech as if they were in the board meeting..how can someone invest billions to come up with a product that will make a loss .. people just don't want to accept that one day Chinese will beat Tesla and they will sell cheaper
@MaMeixner
@MaMeixner 2 ай бұрын
China is far ahead. I am there and the automation here is from another world.
@테슬라투더문
@테슬라투더문 7 ай бұрын
레이다..라이다..다 때려박았구나.....가격은 얼마야? 웨이모 처럼? 할라고?
@wizard-469
@wizard-469 9 ай бұрын
Good thieves.
@Mooshimoca
@Mooshimoca 9 ай бұрын
Most definitely stole the FSD code form Tesla or another company, if they are just getting into cars, I would expect years before they get to a place like Tesla has with FSD.
@club6525
@club6525 9 ай бұрын
Not necessarily. With LiDAR and such a comprehensive suite of sensors, they required substantially less data to perform equally as well or better. Look at Waymo for example. With 1/10 of the data, they perform at L4 while FSD is only at L2.
@_GarethRossUK
@_GarethRossUK 9 ай бұрын
How can you make such a bold claim of code theft?
@UnexpectedTokens
@UnexpectedTokens 9 ай бұрын
just anecdotally all the xiaomi/mijia stuff i have bought have had 100% failure rates, either completely breaks or have weird behaviours that makes it unusable, i do not trust them enough to buy a xiaomi car ever lol....
@UnexpectedTokens
@UnexpectedTokens 9 ай бұрын
@ndukasmith more like i bought a bunch of stuff from them in a short amount of time... didn't expect them to break, obviously now i would think twice about buying more
@TeslaDriver
@TeslaDriver 9 ай бұрын
My scooter has been fine and tablet was until I sold it so could have been bad luck? People rave about Dyson for example but my Vacuum sucks after 6 months (or didn’t suck 😂)
@UnexpectedTokens
@UnexpectedTokens 9 ай бұрын
@@TeslaDriver could just be luck.. who knows... just sharing my experience is all... keep doing what you are doing man! love your videos!
@yoongmian1599
@yoongmian1599 8 ай бұрын
I guess it dpends on luck xD@@TeslaDriver
@pkerry12
@pkerry12 9 ай бұрын
Shut up!!!!!! and take my money!!!!!
@brunoheggli2888
@brunoheggli2888 9 ай бұрын
Game over for Tesla!
@terryterry1655
@terryterry1655 6 ай бұрын
tesla, be very afraid
@darrenmccoy
@darrenmccoy 9 ай бұрын
Can Tesla steal their own software back?
@_GarethRossUK
@_GarethRossUK 9 ай бұрын
Who said it's stolen. It's Xiaomi a global brand. Even Google uses them to licence TV boxes and lightbulb and other smart home tech.
@darrenmccoy
@darrenmccoy 9 ай бұрын
I presume all chinese software is stolen, or copied without approval if that helps.
@_GarethRossUK
@_GarethRossUK 9 ай бұрын
@@darrenmccoy I think you'd like the China show on Friday nights they dig deep it's light and insightful. It is the tendency for ip theft.
@MattDvc
@MattDvc 9 ай бұрын
Impressive, but Chinese. Take it with a pinch of salt
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