Tesla's Autonomous Future: A Q&A with Sandy Munro on the We Robot Event

[@medawson01]

I watch your videos, and I am a 79-year-old grandmother. I own a Tesla Model 3. I love it and I love your videos.

[@StaticFreq]

Welcome to the family! 😊

[@heythave]

Wow, I am envious.

[@RayNLA]

❤

[@Ricodog125]

@@medawson01 79 and supporting an insurrectionist. Guess age doesn’t make one wiser after all….

[@Iqtidar]

Tesla family superb, thanks granny!

[@BLAISEDAHL96]

0:15 “They’re writers! They don’t know sh*t.” Sandy is on fire & it is phenomenal!! Thank you

[@153SCORN]

I had exactly the same sentiment.

[@WillN2Go1]

With respect, I think Tesla fumbled a bit. What they presented is absolutely amazing. Instead of 40 minutes of screen saver, why not live feeds from dozens of Teslas driving FSD 12.5.x all over North America? (After the event I drove my Model Y between Los Angeles and Oxnard round trip twice in five days. 180 miles. I touched the steering while two or three times during those trips. Zero fatigue. Absolutely amazing. NO ONE KNOWS HOW GOOD FSD IS. So 1. the event should've started with just how amazing FSD has become. Two, the trope, true or not, 'when Elon is on stage alone, take whatever he says with a grain of salt.' Maybe it's nonsense. So what. The other part of that trope is, when other Tesla team leaders are on stage with him and presenting, it's got more credibility. So why not do this? Three, They should've announced that the Optimus bots would be teleoperated, have others roped off functioning autonomously. I watched it thinking that I hadn't heard anything said by an Optimus because it just sounded like a person. What then happened was the 'idiots' (to use Sandy's term) when they figured it out jumped all over it calling it fake. The movement control and facility, was amazing. Teleoperating didn't undermine what we saw, except it wasn't made clear. (The Optimus video Tesla just released has an 'Autonomous' label in the upper right corner of the frame. That's the way to do this. ) In the end, of course the share price dropped. Meh. What this is is another chance to invest in Tesla at a steep discount. Which is good. The bottom line of course is no matter if you think Tesla is good or bad at shown'n'tell, they've got the future five years ahead of everybody else. (And caveat. Musk's deep involvement with a particular political candidate could send the stock all over the place for the next month. In the end it will settle down and eventually sky rocket again. Musk and his guy may win or lose, but FSD owns autonomous driving, Optimus, by applying FSD, will also soon be dominant. Robotaxi? Same. Robovan? Great. Could replace a lot of municipal runs. For a minute I thought, I should've gone to the event. (It's near where I live.) But then for weeks, I've been driving hands off, relaxing, at freeway speeds, in heavy Los Angeles traffic....

[@andrewsaint6581]

Me too, we didn't have to wait long.​@@153SCORN

[@GraemeHart8888]

A lot of the writers don't even know how to write

[@hank38822]

Except that the first thing he talks about are how the robots are dancing and not bumping into people. The robots were remote controlled by human beings. They were not autonomous. Maybe he doesn't know as much as he thinks he does.

[@azzahjensen6110]

I watch loyally and I am a 74 year old long term Tesla investor. Love you show Sandy ❤

[@kaazooyii]

Love it!!! Respect that

[@samfish6938]

Tesla FSD faces yet another probe after fatal low-visibility crash The Register® - Biting the hand that feeds IT Offbeat 67 comment bubble on white Tesla FSD faces yet another probe after fatal low-visibility crash Musk’s camera-only approach may not be a great idea after all? iconBrandon Vigliarolo Fri 18 Oct 2024 // 18:37 UTC Tesla is facing yet another government investigation into the safety of its full self driving (FSD) software after a series of accidents in low-visibility conditions. In its latest opening resume [PDF] into a Tesla FSD investigation, the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration (NHTSA) said that it's taking a look at Tesla self-driving systems due to four accidents, one involving an injury and another fatally striking a pedestrian. All four accidents occurred in "an area of reduced roadway visibility conditions" with FSD, either beta or supervised, engaged. "In these crashes, the reduced roadway visibility arose from conditions such as sun glare, fog, or airborne dust," the NHTSA noted, adding that it was opening the inquiry to assess "the ability of FSD's engineering controls to detect and respond appropriately to reduced roadway visibility conditions."In addition, the NHTSA will examine if any further accidents, aside from the four mentioned, are linked to FSD's poor performance in low-visibility conditions. The agency will also review whether Tesla implemented any changes to FSD that could have worsened its ability to handle such scenarios. The investigation includes all 2016-2024 Model S and X vehicles, 2017-2024 Model 3, 2020-2024 Model Y and 2023-2024 Cybertrucks outfitted with FSD, covering around 2.4 million vehicles. Maybe removing all those sensors wasn't a great idea after all? Tesla owner Elon Musk has had a long-standing opposition to the use of things like ultrasonic sensors, radar and lidar in his quest to achieve unassisted full self driving, instead preferring AI and cameras to do the job. The EV maker has since committed entirely to computer vision, eliminating additional sensors in its latest model year vehicles. That means that aside from being able to see in the dark like most modern cameras, Tesla vehicles are ostensibly just as good at seeing in fog, sun glare or excess airborne dust as a human driver, with the added caveat that it's an AI making the decision, not a human.

[@ClayBellBrews]

Now to play devils/Sandy’s advocate; The most amazing thing about the whole presentation was ‘nothing’. No injuries or accidents, no major fails; no big deal. And there were plenty of opportunities to fail; the bots, the bots dancing, the cars mixing with people, people touching and interacting with the taxies. All in all, it was truely amazing having no fails.

[@joesshows6793]

@@ClayBellBrews the robots were controlled by humans. The cars were driving on a closed controlled set. It was fraud.

[@dogtato]

sadly that's probably why some people were disappointed with the event

[@ClayBellBrews]

@@dogtato I think the remote controlled bots, the remote controlled cars, only allowing VIP’s to be in the live audience, the lack of details, the lack of model 2, the bleh presentation by Musk, the lack of questions and the implications that hardware 3 cars won’t get FSD; are enough reasons for most people.

[@stefanhallin]

⁠@@ClayBellBrewsyou’re so out of touch. The Robotaxis were all working autonomously and the Optimus bots were mainly working autonomously but had minders around them for safety who also had the control over some minor functions for the sake of eliminating anything going wrong in this environment, though they released a video following day showing all of these actions could be done autonomously. As for hardware 3, it’s virtually guaranteed to be compatible. Hardware 4 and AI5 have some added functionality which will be replicated in programs for the #3. But for heaven’s sake, if you don’t believe in it, don’t invest in Tesla. Elon has stated this on a number of occasions. Just don’t criticise things in ignorance, inform yourself before levelling this kind of criticism.

[@saff226]

​@@ClayBellBrewsany a small part of what the bots did was remote control. Most like the walking and dancing was all autonomous the cars were all autonomous. Hardware 3 will get FSD. Tesla has said this over and over again. Releasing the model 2 would be an absolutely stupid idea and would kill 3 and y sales. Hopefully they can hide it till it's almost ready to ship

[@amyniemann9564]

I’m a woman I watch your videos. I have a Monroelive sticker on my Model Y. However I did work in automotive parts for 25 years before I married my wonderful husband who said I no longer had to work 👍🏼❤️

[@jpen5599]

Amen.

[@lindam.1502]

lucky

[@AdamWellinformed]

Listening to Sandy is always so insightful. Type of guy you’d love to bump into in a pub or something to hear all his wisdom 😊

[@interman7715]

@AdamWellinformed It truly is embarrassing to see how dumb some Americans are. Sandy is most likely a large Tesla stockholder and paid Tesla pumper ,so most likely has a vested interest. I have seen some of his videos where he kisses Musks arse and never ever uses his amazing engineering prowess to ask the tough questions .Musk dumped 30 billion in shares when they hit their peak and they have been declining ever since .Tesla fan boys are being duping by the master duper.

[@TyrannicG]

You can't be insightful when you are biased as a stock holder, no objectivity.... Just a salesman, just go to 4:20 if you want to see what the purpose of the video was. moron munro is also visibly in mental decline, but likely in denial of that. Shit event, but morons love to eat shit

[@martymar7465]

I have been an engineer for one of the big 3 now for 30 years, and my personal ride is Tesla. Ask me why.

[@paintedpony2935]

Why?

[@5893MrWilson]

The technology you get in a Tesla is unmatched and you get extreme value at the model 3 price point

[@theodorehaskins3756]

Thank you! I feel the exact same way, as there is no true competitor to Tesla at this moment in time, and the technology will only get better and better, and so most people particular the boys and girls on WallStreet, don’t seem to understand what this Tesla vision thing is all about, and what Sandy and others have learned, is that it is never a good idea to bet against Elon Musk, as he has demonstrated a type of ability to do things and accomplish things that no one else has done or willing to do for that matter. So hating on Elon Musk will not change the fact that Musk is the only CEO on the planet, that’s talking about self driving cars, saving the planet, and going to Mars. Comphrende. Cheers 🥂

[@martymar7465]

@@paintedpony2935 Luke 6.45 I do recognize if someone build car for me or them . Tesla definitely for me

[@mrwhite5752]

What did your company think of the tesla even ?

[@jbencze]

Hey Sandy... whats with all the haters in your comments. You're great and boldly honest. Keep on rockin'. Jay

[@MunroLive]

Thanks!

[@knalltutemichl3473]

@@MunroLiveGo Sandy 💪 Go Munro 💪

[@Think_Up]

Haters are going to hate and as he pointed out, most of them have done nothing but bag on those who have done things. When the haters come out, it's a good indicator that the winners are winning.

[@themonsterunderyourbed9408]

Haters just actually hate EVs and Elon Musk.

[@andrewsaint6581]

​@@themonsterunderyourbed9408yeah, why? They can't be that frightened of the future, can they?

[@sanakabana]

Sandy, I'm a 34 yr old woman who's been watching your show for a long time. Your authentic non-scripted views make me come back to watch you again and again. Please never stop :) Anyway, one of the reasons I went electric is because I was tired of getting out in the cold here in Australia, driving to the petrol station and filling up the tank with pricey dinosaur juice. Now, we have 2 Model 3s at home and we just charge in the garage, but having induction charging would make it so much easier.

[@Mars2152]

Dear Mr. Munro, I'm writing to express my sincere admiration for your work in the automotive industry. Your engineering expertise is evident in your Tesla's design descriptions, and I have a deep respect for your contributions to the field. While I acknowledge Elon Musk's vision and leadership, I want to emphasize that my appreciation extends beyond him to the brilliant engineers who bring that vision to life. Your role in shaping Tesla is a testament to your skill, dedication, and work history. Thank you

[@Aku6Soku1Zan]

Elon is a force multiplyer and force director. Like on the order of a thousand.

[@YungAnt7]

Why wouldn’t anyone who’s dedicated decades of their life to studying cars inside and out professionally be supportive of a groundbreaking company like Tesla?? The automotive industry has been slow moving and repetitive forever and Tesla has done nothing but reinvent and innovate and produce what ppl say won’t/can’t be done

[@mgarcia8878]

Are you fast moving when your car looks almost exactly how it did 10 years ago?

[@SteinErikDahle]

​@@mgarcia8878, it looks much the same _on the outside_. Everything else has been improved f ex batteries, motors, computer hardware, seats, quality improvements all over. If you don't believe me, try driving an early Tesla and a new one. They might look about the same, but that's only on the outside And then you have the Cybertruck which is substantially unlike any other car in existence.

[@stefanpredl6849]

@@mgarcia8878 thats the problem whit oems colouring the pig doesnt make a horse out of it

[@mgarcia8878]

@@SteinErikDahle they no longer the leader in batteries, motors and hardware. Their only advantage is their charging network and their economies of scale.

[@SteinErikDahle]

@@mgarcia8878 , no, Tesla is still far ahead. Take FSD: not quite ready for prime time yet, but unlike Waymo and others there's no need for prepping with hires mapping of specific areas to enable self-driving. Not much more than an over-the-air software update will be needed because everything else needed is factory installed and ready for use. No other car comes close to this.

[@HourRomanticist]

One of the coolest events ever followed by the most impressive rocket launch of all time.

[@Johnny2Feathers]

USA leading the way 🇺🇸💪

[@jeffrejr1]

two separate companies. Space x is quality. Tesla not so much

[@Johnny2Feathers]

@@jeffrejr1 try owning one .. I do and I’ll never go back to any ice car because it’s that good

[@coolco1619]

Elon was on fire! He looked much healthier and happy at the event 😊

[@st-ex8506]

@@jeffrejr1 If you owned a Tesla, you'd know what quality means! Well... I am a bit less definitive as to the interior of my 2019 Model 3! But the drivetrain's quality is simply remarkable. But yeah, Teslas are not built to take people to space, but to present the best possible quality/price ratio. Both companies have outstanding engineering teams... probably #1 and #2 in the world... I don't know which one is which...

[@edwardnaclerio7690]

How about airport shuttles ? Have you been suffocated or nauseous from the diesel fumes from the crap engines and horrible drivers

[@scientificapproach6578]

I like it, how about a family vacation? More fun when you join another family your kids are friends with to enjoy the ride in a RoboVan instead of being stuck in the front seat with the kids fighting over snacks.

[@otm646]

Maybe 20 years ago, a modern diesel with SCR has emissions that are no more noxious than anything else. Plus most of them are going to gas engines for lower cost of ownership a la the 7.3 Ford V8 chassis cabs. That's not a valid concern in 2024.

[@themonsterunderyourbed9408]

​@@otm646 okay... If modern diesel engine emissions are so clean, why don't you go ahead and breathe them in? The fact is what you say is complete 🐎 💩. Literally every diesel engine on buses, truck, vans spews blacks smoke out of the exhaust.

[@radcardad]

@@otm646no but the drivers smell. Can’t get around that

[@CyberUtilia]

@@themonsterunderyourbed9408 coal plants

[@ninaalexieva6443]

Thank You. Clear -Honest -Humanly truthful! - Woman 52 yrs from Stockholm, Sweden

[@longmuskox4194]

Sandy, thank you for your tenacity while navigating through all the uninformed, misinformed, and haters.

[@gathonar]

Just a brilliant video as per Munro Quality 100% top notch.

[@lukekamp]

Great video; love the authenticity of Sandy here. One request please: can you add chapters to these longer videos?

[@bonya4585]

I’m a woman who has watched almost all of your tear downs and Tesla shows. I think you’d be surprised to see how many women want to see how things work.

[@Ch3ckman]

I like the girl asking the questions. It is real nice. Sandy you are the man. Love your videos

[@kenbob1071]

She sounds like she's 13 years old.

[@HourRomanticist]

She sounds like she's in her 20s ​@@kenbob1071

[@douglachman7330]

Are you the presenter for the Space X launches?

[@gergc4871]

​@@kenbob1071she sounds like she has a slight Indian accent.

[@getmerolling]

AI?

[@RMA4269]

Excellent Sandy! much appreciated, your perspective is valued...

[@konixtwenty8275]

Sandy you're the man. Always make great point. Thank you

[@johnhenrygrzyb7970]

Always love your take Sandy. I come to you for the best news.

[@briannewman6216]

Wireless charging is not fast charging. Its primary benefit is being able to charge without plugging in and unplugging the car when it is parked. It is certainly an improvement. "Inductive" charging that involves two pads being bought together is faster than wireless charging,however, it is still much slower than DC charging.

[@ViniciusMiguel1988]

Also nobody is talking about the energy losses…

[@casperhansen826]

I have seen wireless car chargers that can charge with more than 50 kW with 96% efficiency

[@st-ex8506]

@@ViniciusMiguel1988 New inductive chargers achieve within 1% the same efficiency than regular "cabled" chargers! That's why nobody but you is talking about energy losses.

[@st-ex8506]

I see a few other advantages to inductive charging: 1. No cable to be stolen, nothing that can be easily sabotaged or fail, resulting in much higher availability and lower maintenance costs. 2. Easily implementable on every curbside parking space in cities, with all the advantages of point 1. Just park your car... or rather let it park itself... input the parking space number in an app... and the car will be recharged overnight as you sleep, It solves the problem of people that cannot home-charge. You'll also find your car the next morning pre-cooled to your liking in the summer, or pre-warmed and de-frosted in the winter! 3. No clumsy charging cable in your garage. Although, that's rather a detail. 4. No charging port and door to fail or be frozen stuck... or to be on the wrong side of the car! A fully solid-state system. As far as charging speed is concerned, I read that inductive charging can reach "300 kW and higher"... which, if true and applicable to cars, would be more than sufficient to replace DC fast-chargers.

[@skydiver151]

Sandy is the GOAT!

[@barr96]

On Elons payroll more like 😅

[@skydiver151]

@@barr96 oh, you‘re one of the few naive people who really believe that Tesla would pay youtubers to talk positive about Tesla?😂😂🤦🏻‍♂️ Don‘t be so ignorant, seriously. It‘s so easy to spot someone who clearly get‘s his information from legacy media AND who even believes what he reads there!😅

[@barr96]

@skydiver151 don't be so presuming... I carry tesla stock, I have done since 2020. If you watched the same presentation as me, you'll see what this chap is banging on about is inaccurate HYPE

[@JamboFlex]

Love you Sandy. You’re attitude is infectious and your knowledge and transparency is so valuable. Thank you for all that you do. Go Tesla go!

[@JRs-Garage]

Sandy don’t ever loose your passion for this it’s what makes it real!

[@chrishvs]

Sandy, you are such a hoot. I love your delivery, the technical detail inspires me to keep learning.

[@ericderace]

Sandy is a character - I love that guy. He's raw, shocking. This is what we need

[@torstenmautz195]

My problems with 20kW+ inductive car charging are 1. Energy losses, good systems get about 90% effective, one the plus side you wont get cut wires on those, it's better with autonomy since you dont need to plug in. 2. You need a high power rectifier the car, increasing weight and cost 3. Radiation/interference from high power inductive charging in cities. You have to be very careful with other devices (and talking 50-100kW+, also meat!) in vicinity.

[@scythelord]

Yeah. Inductive charging makes some sense with small devices like phones. But when you're talking high voltage devices like cars with distance between the induction coil and the device, it's just not the greatest idea. Definitely not a viable solution for a home user. But autonomous fleets? It starts to make sense there.

[@torstenmautz195]

@@scythelord a high power induction charger will have to close the gap to the car by extending upwards to the car. The closer Antenna und receiver, the less losses you get. But e.g. 200kW fast charging via induction? Thats professional Radar grade radiation and can cause LOTS of harm... I once saw a bird flying in front of a radar dish and fall dead to the ground

[@b9eda9ad]

I was thinking Sandy would not make this mistake but this is not inductive charging. This is resonant charging which has comparable losses to the cable charging. And the reason the charging was only 19KW is probably the power connection there was not good enough. Ultimetly they will probably do it up to 50KW.

[@dave550821]

Sandy you are about 7 years older than me but you are a breath of fresh air that is why I watch everything you put on youtube

[@glenw3814]

Sandy saying everything I wish the world to hear. 💯🙏

[@davidperry5326]

Tesla hate everywhere.lol This is what makes the accomplishments Tesla makes even better. Tesla is smart knowing that all 3 products, robovan,taxi and bot are going to benefit them first. They will literally be their first customer. The robot will be their labour force before anyone else's. This will drop the production cost astronomically.

[@StratumPress]

I think a lot of the hate are bots. Anti-Elon bots conveniently pop up immediately on a lot of these channels' videos.

[@richiehart7858]

Sandy is great. He is a wealth of information about the car manufacturing industry. The comment about the FAA and SpaceX launch licenses is about politics, which Sandy is not right about. The launch license action was for a short period of time in line with SpaceX's own assessment of an incident with a second stage engine relight failure.

[@Tonay88]

Quote from Sandy Munro "I don't anticipate any problems with inductive charging period"

[@g_ferret2450]

I'm a 19 year old, passionate in BEV tech since I was 13 and have been learning everything I can about the EV market. It was such a cool event, and for people to say that Tesla can't achieve FSD... well, SpaceX wasn't supposed to be able to catch a 24-story building, and they did it on the first attempt.

[@Dave-ei7kk]

You’re on the right track youngster. You remind me of myself when I switched careers back in 1983 to follow my conviction that computers were the way of the future. My friends were skeptical. But what a ride it was. I retired early. 🙂 Stick with your pursuit of EV technology (and AI too if you’re interested). And you to will be rewarded. You aren’t too late.

[@richardwolf6269]

If It’s such a genius idea why don’t they use it on planes? These monstrosities were supposed to provide point to point travel at prices cheaper than airlines. That doesn’t even come close to passing the sniff test! They have sorta kinda successfully landed only one Starship which isn’t even remotely close to be human rated. You wanna put your ass in that tin can?!

[@fookschool]

​@@richardwolf6269wow. You aren't very bright are you? Planes have had a very good autopilot system for a VERY long time. I have flight controllers that have zero issues controlling any number of flying objects as long as you program the parameters correctly. You can easily extrapolate the existing tech to reliably do this. Unfortunately rocket science isn't very hard anymore with all the tools that do the hard work for you. The accuracy and reliability of SpaceX systems has been good enough for NASA to use them almost exclusively now for astronauts....or did you forget about that whole Boeing situation already?

[@ObstaclestoOpportunities]

You keep aiming for the stars do not worry about the many adults which lost hope and innovation, plus creativity. You keep building your experience and hope for the future and you will be working at Tesla or Space X. Continue to push yourself forward. The future is super amazing and cool

[@ObstaclestoOpportunities]

@@richardwolf6269 NASA requested Space X for saving people trapped on ISS and they accomplished this event. You stay on your negative lifestyle and leave the younger generation to achieve greatness.

[@dr.swaster8763]

The fact they have steer-by-wire in the CT, gives the model 2 its easy addition of a wheel and pedals.

[@legobis4484]

What do you think about using the robovan as a platform for RVing?

[@1flash3571]

@@Monkdn Or use it for transporting people from the Airport to their Hotel.

[@Dularr]

Wonder how to get the robovan in the RV park spaces.

[@oggyoggy1299]

Terrible. Absolutely terrible for RVing.

[@TankEsq]

The phone inductive charging seems slow and it over heats my phone. Will that be the same with the car?

[@hometown1474]

Yes

[@bowesterlund3719]

No. There are inductive charging for cars that have almost the same efficiency as plugging in a cable.

[@TankEsq]

@@bowesterlund3719 they need that technology in our phone chargers asap

[@MoritzvonSchweinitz]

You skipped over quite a couple of legitimate criticisms: a) The robots - as impressive as their mechanics seem to be - were obviously pupeteered/remote controlled. Until an AI controls them like they appeared is still quite a while away. b) the atrocious inefficiency of inductive charging. Sure, it's the non-plus-ultra of convenience, but some robot arm that plugs your car in would be overall better? c) Tesla has been promising full self driving "soon" for...almost a decade now? So a healthy dose of scepticism in order, I wager. The annoying thing to me is that the presented things really seem very cool, but they just seem to have used all the sexy stuff to completely wash out the legit concerns.

[@theBeachBusRI]

There were so many issues besides all the blatant deception taking place at the reveal but Sandy just pretends not to see despite his expertise. Wall St reacted they way it did because it would appear we are quite a few years off from seeing any of these in real numbers (as opposed to the fake Tesla Semi).

[@roaryscott]

a) they can do these things autonomously, they chose not to. As seen in their latest video released.

[@KTMcaptain]

A) don’t know to what extent they were controlled. Was the individual in a body suit controlling every single part or were they simply clicking the parking button and having it do the rest. B) inductive charging isn’t atrociously inefficient. With new advancements it’s within 90% as efficient as wired. But what you didn’t mention was that DC fast charging losses efficiency as well so honestly if we are ok with those losses for convenience then we are fine with other conveniences. C) what are you talking about, it’s already out and working. These aren’t small tasks and missed promise dates for something one can’t really offer a legitimate timeframe for is understandable. They are accomplishing goals others have yet to dream of. But sure he promised some stuff it took longer to deliver on, but hey he’s brought economies of scale to satellite internet, lands rockets, and has delivered electric cars that cost less than the average car.

[@nycLPplayer]

​@@roaryscottLaters vids were also doctored...they can't help themselves at this point

[@awebuser5914]

@@KTMcaptain _"don’t know to what extent they were controlled..."_ *ALL* of it... They are not "robots", they were human-controlled mannequins. It was all pathetically easy-to-spot smoke & mirrors. FSD is a mirage, it will _never_ be approved with the current hardware, it's really that simple. It's a cool party trick to impress/scare your friends, _nothing more_ .

[@Gamen4Bros]

I'm so glad me & Sandy share the same opinions. I'm not slone❤️

[@Starship007]

Elon inspires and excites me about the future. He gets things done. No blaming or finger pointing he just Does it

[@gcauldwell]

Tremendously unique feedback, Sandy, thanks a million

[@ecofriend93]

"I know everything about everything."

[@robertmatetich2898]

Sandy is the best authority on automobiles in the world. Don't ask him about style, sales potential, or emotional impact, but if you want to know if a car is well designed, engineered, and built, he's your man.

[@MoneySavingVideos]

I also thought the the robotaxi would be the Tesla 2. The robovan is the next Amazon cargo van. airport shuttle, city bus and school bus. With no human interventions the vehicle would be safer leading to reduction in insurance.

[@christianvanderstap6257]

Mobile gp, hairdresser, masseuse, moving van etc

[@jeffreylutz1208]

I’m with you Sandy. I was there and blown away and have that background and history of building product at scale. Tesla is making the best product in every category they decide to participate in and may be the only ones capable of delivering the scale required, period…

[@eternalbalance7703]

This is where it's at! Thumbed up within seconds of intro.

[@lyfandeth]

Inductive charging is nice in many ways, but I've never heard it cslled fast. You mention the Qi charging in cell phones: that takes 4-5x longer than plugging in wired charging. That's down time.

[@alesksander]

Yeah, it's inefficient, at max 90, normally 75%. I much prefer the Kuka robot arm that finds the charging port, which is much more efficient. Or pantograph-like systems (like BYD does for buses). Inductive charging only makes sense for city robotaxis with very regular, short, and busy routes. That way, you can buffer-charge the fleet bit by bit throughout the day-autonomously-and perhaps more reliably because there are inherently fewer moving parts. The Kuka arm might break down, or one charging station would always need someone on standby to maintain or manually plug in vehicles. This would totally negate the whole purpose of 'robo'-taxis. The fleet will have a system where vehicles rotate through town so that one vehicle makes a 20-15 minute stop while another completes routes.

[@BenefitOfTheDoubtInquiry]

Google DC wireless fast charging efficiency. It's the same as wired now.

[@davidbeppler3032]

​@@BenefitOfTheDoubtInquiryGoogle how much curren it takes to kill a cat. Anyone see a problem?

[@martin5697]

Tesla bought and sold Wiferion, a German Wireless charging company for AMRs/AGVs. They have a charging pad system with 12kW with 93% efficiency. But they need a positioning tolerance under 40mm. But the newly shown Optimus update shows charging via PINs or it is a positioning guide.

[@89bazoly]

I don’t know why everyone says the price of the cybercab will be 30k dollars. Elon clearly said the cost will be 30k

[@MichaelByrt-b6c]

Sandy Munro, I absolutely love your knowledge, engineering experience, and I watch your you tubes to get the truth on electric vehicles!!!! Your opinion is required

[@stefan2796]

No, it isn't. It's just one of many (commercial) opinions.

[@Pikminiman]

Ice-cold ending words. Thanks, Sandy.

[@r.a.monigold9789]

Reporters paid by word count only need to be able to turn a one paragraph report into a multi-page document. People who inform others know how to reduce complex subjects into factual, easily understandable information. Thank you Sandy for your brief bits of continuing knowledge.

[@Starship007]

Europe some buses charge inductively while waiting for passengers. Some roads are planned with induction while driving down the road

[@RC-fp1tl]

That intro went HARD!

[@GoronCityOfficialBoneyard]

This kind of content is why I subscribed, don't take nothing and don't tolerate the bs. Good stuff

[@rameking1]

Sandy, question about the induction charging. We know induction loses some of the power to heat and is less efficient compared to a wire. How much do you expect induction charging will cost per kwh compared to plugging in? Does the voltage/amperage change the physics at all? Would it be the same as phones: about a 20-30% efficiency loss?

[@genephipps6421]

I would be surprised if Tesla goes with Carbon Fiber for the Robo Taxi body. I do think there is a good chance it will be plastic--just not something as brittle and expensive as CF. My guess is they will want to eliminate the paint shop so color will be molded in. Maybe similar to the Pontiac Fiero--SMC and RIMM?

[@billmurvihill9697]

I generally prefer to differentiate robotics from automation. Robots respond to events in their environment and in particular, when those events are not known in advance. Automation is programmed repetitive motion, with pre-planned activities based on inputs. Cruise control is automation. FSD is robotics.

[@ClayBellBrews]

So my concern about the inductive charging is the massive losses. This limits the top end of the power transmission because that extra power has to go somewhere and that’s heat.

[@Edwardsays]

Dear Sandy, I appreciate your engineering knowledge and how generously you share your expertise with the world. Thanks for informing and inspiring me. I grant you honourary citizenship of Australia and the keys to every city. God bless you.

[@danapeck5382]

Thanks!

[@scottipedia]

I aspire to be "an ordinary person" like Sandy!😉

[@derrekb4501]

I was blown away by the CyberTruck coupe design, it looked like the future. A few years from now everyone will be copying Tesla. The Robovan looks amazing, and yes it does look like iRobot a bit, so what, no one else dare to do it, to take that chance. Tesla is really way ahead of the game!

[@t3hpwninat0r]

As soon as Sandy said "limousine" I was like "OH MY GOD" RoboVan will be the #1 pick for weddings etc. All the 5 star hotels will need them for fancy pants events and hollywood crap or get demoted to 4 star.

[@jonesjoyce1215]

Those who know, do, those who understand, have always done, and appreciate, as seems to be the case of Mr. Sandy Answers, support, participate, and applaud! Fantastic! Need more? 💖💖💖👏👏👏👏👏👏🌟💐🗽

[@richardwolf6269]

Why?

[@gbinman]

Is there an efficiency loss to use inductive charging? You mentioned phones but they tolerate inefficiency more than a vehicle.

[@wolfgangpreier9160]

"Is there an efficiency loss to use inductive charging?" Yes. About 7% was the claim of the germans. " You mentioned phones but they tolerate inefficiency more than a vehicle." Nothing and nobody "tolerates" inefficiencies!

[@1flash3571]

Wired charging is ALWAYS better than Inductive Charging method. Wired charging can charge at 350Kw vs Wireless one seems to only charge at around under 40Kw. Big difference.

[@richardwolf6269]

Sandy glosses over so much!

[@wolfgangpreier9160]

@@1flash3571 Better? No. More efficient? Yes. Max. power? no. You could always build a 350kW or a 50 MW inductive system, it is just not very practical.

[@oggyoggy1299]

@@wolfgangpreier9160 How is more efficient not better?

[@okpail]

What is your comment on the energy losses using indicative charging.

[@mgarcia8878]

Can’t wait for those Tesla tunnels to come to fruition too.

[@ShawwwHa]

The hyperloop is what I can't wait to ride in. That's going to be sweet!

[@FrunkensteinVonZipperneck]

Fruition City Councit has to make a decision…😂

[@gisobo]

Don't get me wrong, I respect the huge achievements of Tesla and SpaceX. But the tunnels and Hyperloop are just Tech Bro nonsense.

[@CalgarGTX]

@@gisobo Hyperloop maybe but the tunnels are getting done on multiple las vegas routes already and other cities have signed projects too

[@t33sher]

Thanks for validating some of my thoughts on the event, to a tee. Your explanation of the negative press makes sense. I was so confused by it and wall streets initial reaction. I've loved and appreciated your content over the years.

[@Howard_Roark]

Cybertruck is incredible. Self driving seriously outdoes expectations. It’s the best thing I have used. Their automated systems will be mind blowing

[@stefan2796]

I want to drive myself, i don't want to be driven by a computer.

[@Casevil669]

@@stefan2796 thankfully you can

[@edkeefe]

Always good to hear someone talk who understands manufacturing and the future of manufacturing. I also wish Syd Mead was still around to see this.

[@willlintilhac6434]

Glad you enjoyed the Vaporware demo, Sandy!

[@joesshows6793]

@@willlintilhac6434 for real. I can’t believe he’s simping for this fraud!

[@richardwolf6269]

@@joesshows6793money talks!

[@seanmitchell3782]

WHO was behind the self landing rocket the experts said was impossible?

[@joesshows6793]

@@seanmitchell3782 no one said it was impossible. The problem is Elon claims we should be on mars 10years ago and self driving cars 10years ago and everything is 3 years away from reality and none of it is true. He fakes everything. Yeah he self landed a booster but blew up the frikkin ship!

[@awebuser5914]

@@seanmitchell3782 *Nobody* said that booster recovery was _impossible_ , it was just deemed *impractical* . The Falcon 9 loses a lot of lift capability to have a returnable booster, it's simply a compromise that may, or may not, be actually useful.

[@leesargent5947]

One thing that Sandy didn’t mention was the variability of what can be included in the Robovan. When he was talking about family use, it seems to me that like NYK determined the van is a platform that can include equipment carrying, wheel chair usage, bed accommodation, tool access, other handicap/accessibility desires, etc. The range may be limited by the top speed but the it can be more needs based then mentioned. This also applies to repair services, food services, etc. that exist in the city. It lends itself to some of the ideas surfaced by the Canoo vehicle.

[@Barbale98]

There are many competitors in the humanoid robotic market, even more advanced

[@Jim_Cpe]

None have the advantage of video perceptive AI that Tesla get from their millions of cars. That neural net is the difference. They have a massive advantage.

[@paulc6766]

And nice Chinese ones.

[@Casevil669]

None with manufacturing capacity and scale Tesla has.

[@kylerobinson7572]

Sandy, I think the Tesla Design Team should consider something like the following: Since the Cybercab is steer, accelerate, and brake by wire, they could possibly consider installing a driver control module in the center console. The module could include a F-16 style joy stick and control buttons. The existing screen could potentially provide rear and side mirror functionality. I have a handicapped friend who only drives her car using her hands. Airbag/vehicle safety systems should not have to be modified. I feel it is a good way to provide a drivable low cost opportunity for consumers :-). Government regulations would always be a challenge. Best of luck and thanks for all your great work!!

[@photobobo]

Sandy, as an engineer, I agree with you that people in the media, and other nincompoops, are not entitled to an opinion about something that they no nothing about.

[@otm646]

This is largely Tesla's own fault. They are a tech and influencer driven company. They are not engineers first and foremost from an outward public perception. So that's who they attracted as their core fan base.

[@michaeloreilly657]

How are you an engineer if you don't know the difference between 'no' and 'know'?

[@st-ex8506]

@@michaeloreilly657 ... possibly one relying a bit too much on YT spelling corrector?? It never happened to you?

[@paulc6766]

@@otm646 Well they are engineers first and foremost.

[@johnbrown4568]

Sandy lays it down 👉💪

[@rcguymike]

Inductive charging is way too inefficient. An automated way to connect a physical cable would allow way more power way more efficiently...inductive does make sense if you want to pull into your garage and slow charge overnight, or place them in hotel parking lots

[@Bernd-b1y]

Battery swapping would also be a much better idea than inductive charging, especially in connection with autonomous vehicles + you could use the batteries stored in the swapping stations as an industrial energy storage. NIO is already doing that which is why Tesla was looking for some more vaporware instead, their gullible fanboys love it.

[@scythelord]

18:00 uh hard disagree. I love filling up my gas tank. No one is getting out into nasty weather or rain to fill their car up. they're all covered structures... Inductive charging a car will take a ridiculous amount of time.

[@Seoulhawk01]

Count me as someone who was disappointed. There is a simple reason as to why. This event was held 10.10.2024, it should have been held 10.10.2025. Then you would be saying the Robotaxi will be on the road in months not years. I have heard Elon make the statement that prototypes are easy production is hard, then he shows me prototypes. So I am disappointed. I believe that the Semi will be in production by q2 of next year. There is a need for long haul busses, cement trucks, 40ft flatbeds, etc. How hard would it be to modify the Semi to meet these needs? It's not sexy, but neither is energy storage, it is needed, and needed now. A 24 passenger Robovan, cool but not really on the top line of needed.

[@ObstaclestoOpportunities]

last mile is the most expensive part of the supply chain process for transportation and long haul is cheaper. The van will be the most important part and especially in price.

[@Seoulhawk01]

@@ObstaclestoOpportunities Funny, we are all victims of the world around us. I am an American that lives in Korea. To me the last mile is solved. City busses have switched to BEV, delivery trucks made by Hyundai are BEV, guys deliver food with pedal asset electric bicycles. What is missing are the industrial vehicles and long haul busses.

[@lypanov]

@@Seoulhawk01 ​ I secretly hope Tesla team up with other companies and help use these to produce an ad hoc bus route system making use of both the cab and the bus. Fixed bus routes are wasteful. What I hope someone comes up with is a very cheap subscription that gives you cheap daily fixed time drives + random drives with preorder. Discounts the more you walk. Integration into train networks. The dream!

[@awebuser5914]

Semi is essentially dead, it's over... Elon's ludicrous hype killed whatever small chance it had with industry. The ones that were "sold" were paid for by the California government via incentives to Frito-Lay.

[@CalgarGTX]

I think the main 'problem' for Tesla right now is they made models with a very large customer base first, for obvious economical reasons, and have their few factories working at capacity pumping them out as it is. Making other vehicles would be child play for them at this stage since they make every drive train component in house, but they have no factory floor available to have a delivery truck line, van line, industrial cement/garbage truck etc line... The good news is both their texas and germany expansion plans have been greelit now, so maybe the new floor capacity will be used for that somewhere.

[@flyshacker]

Thank you, Sandy! I always love hearing your viewpoint.

[@otm646]

16:00 Sandy, you know, or at least familiar with all of the players that would be capable of producing CF tooling at scale like this. I haven't heard a word and I'm sure you haven't either. We knew about the giga castings and stainless years ahead of time via suppliers. Plus you have the repairability concerns like the i3. I will be very surprised if a large portion of the body structure is carbon fiber.

[@thehobe150]

Great review without the negativity of media reports. This is the future but it WILL take time. Factory jobs are the first to be taken over by increasingly talented robots.

[@richardwolf6269]

Fanboys call us haters. Others call us realists! The real haters are the fanboys who hate people asking real questions and expecting realistic timelines.

[@TheEvilmooseofdoom]

No, the haters tend to lie and tell convenient half truths. Kinda like you did here. The one thing you people are NOT is very intelligent.

[@swapshots4427]

​@@TheEvilmooseofdoom Like he did there? Lol No, like YOU just did.

[@TheEvilmooseofdoom]

@@swapshots4427 Indeed. What part?

[@swapshots4427]

@TheEvilmooseofdoom Not sure how I read this at first. After re reading his comment, I agree with him. Not sure what your point was.

[@mat967]

Sandy is the best!

[@Glenhh]

About the van you said you love the styling, didn’t get a chance to ride in it and were blown away by „everything“. That pretty much sums up what we learned about the van. Nothing. We knew they’re working on a van previously. Unfortunately we only got to see the design. Yes, the writers have no idea. But me as a 2016 all in Tesla investor know one or two things about the company and this was their worst event yet. „Prototypes are easy, production is hard“ This is what Elon said years ago. That mindset has clearly changed to prototypes are enough for an event.

[@Lifecoach7Ra]

Also since 2016 gamblers have not understood anything about motivation, vision, mission and party when it’s time to appreciate what is done. So only stupid idiots ask for cheap 25‘000 USD cars causing as much effort than selling a founders edition CT for over 100‘000 USD at a good profit for you too. Than selling 220‘000 more ‚cars‘ in Q2 than reported? Have you ever remarked yet that Tesla sold that profit with PowerPacks? What do you really not understand as a shareholder? I was mostly impressed of how cities could look like with lesser cars. This must be the aim and CyberCab is the answer. There is now way in that worldwide political and economic situation to be more forefront due to existing regulations that must be changed first. But how with final products? Are you so silly to not understand greedy hypocrisy and envious reactions of all the others? This ‚show’ was just perfect to show what is coming but not yet the secret details for all competition able to copy anyhow not few, and all well hidden by the Hollywood touch! But the content was no joke at all and very real for people like Sandy Munro and me as consultant and once European Marketing Executive of the biggest St. Paul based visionary and still innovative company founded back in 1906!

[@Casevil669]

Cybercabs weren't a prototype. If they plan on reaching volume production in 2026 (that's what they stated on Q3 call) it's basically almost ready to ramp.

[@chasetran8592]

I love and appreciate the way Sandy comment/calling out people thats not very knowledgeable. Kinda like Elon

[@stuartwinikoff8526]

Dear Mr. Munroe , how can Tesla cars become autonomous without any form of radar?

[@1sheinz]

RoBovan would be Perfect for VAN LIFE, RV, also for mobile trades people. The fact that it lowers when stopped is great for access and could have wheel chair ramp in one door and regular entry on the other. Genius . CHEERS MUNRO

[@tallbudha]

You have a point Munro about politics. But I must say that InmateP01 is a real threat to this country. Someone of your age growing up fighting fascism should realize the monumental threat to the world inmateP01 is. I am a Elon fanboy by the way. I do wish he would not have supported the con man.

[@malkum61]

Elon the Engineer is good, Elon the arbiter of our future politics, no thanks…

[@paulrybarczyk5013]

Have you ever considered the possibility that Elon (Earth’s most brilliant human?) knows more than you about politics and truth?

[@gisobo]

​@@paulrybarczyk5013he just supports whatever aids his huge ego or his wealth. May be brilliant for him but pretty bad for everybody else. He brings technology forward while destroying free, liberal and peaceful society.

[@Sal3600]

easy win for Trump. he's better than the alternative. lmao Harris being a president😆😆😆

[@malkum61]

@@paulrybarczyk5013 evidentially not unless of course you have an inability to think

[@stephenhumble7627]

For the robovan i cant see them doing inductive charging at least not exclusively. The robotaxi's small battery is ok for charging with inductive but that van could easily be >200kw of battery's so that would be over 8 hours to charge if it was only using an 25kw inductive plate. So a normal charge port is needed or whatever they use for the tesla semi. The van looks like it has good aerodynamics and the adjustable suspension height should make it a vary stable ride.

[@ZeroInDaHouse]

i feel a bit sorry for Sandy. Even the younger generation has become critical to Elon's amazing 'genius', false promises and straight out lies and manipulation. It seems like Sandy hit the Elon hype wave late and is still stuck in it and this also seems to be a trend with more older generations in general on pretty much any trend out there. Short form media being an excellent example of this. I feel bad for older generations being able to be manipulated so easily because their past was vastly different than the younger generation now who can discern current time bs from companies trying to manipulate you much easier. Call it being more 'awake' if you will.

[@FrancescoDiMauro]

kids nowadays drink all the crap they get served on TikTok and is the older generation that should worry?

[@ZeroInDaHouse]

​@@FrancescoDiMauro The kids are actually ditching these failed mind poisons and are returning to old fashioned social time in the REAL world and it's in fact the older generation that is wasting their time on these platforms. It's kind of the Facebook effect, a new platform gets massively used by the younger one only to get bored of it and then overtime the older generation, always more slow to adapt, gets hooked on the now 'older' tech.

[@awebuser5914]

Very true, saw an arguably intelligent elderly gent get sucked into the alt-right vortex. They don't have the life-skills with 'tech and media to know when they are in over their heads. Arguably, they are the _easiest_ targets for misinformation and crap like that.

[@benfarrow9498]

Less ranting more just straight up analysis! ❤

[@jdcarguy1242]

8:22 how about rv conversions?

[@Ghartausz]

The best intro in a while! 🔥 🔥

[@elliotthardy3660]

I didn't know this Tesla demo was to demonstrate the 2 door Tesla model 2 in heavy traffic. As a bus driver I can tell you cars, bikes and pedestrian traffic is unpredictable sometimes. So, the level of tech preventing all these object hitting each other is impressive. 😮

[@pangert1]

Sandy, the inductive charging is for the vehicle’s autonomously charging! Silly goose 😂Love your channel 😅

[@BlaineRush-b8h]

Elon didn’t say 80k for the robots, he said 30k. However I wouldn’t be surprised if 80k ends up being accurate in the end.

[@awebuser5914]

LOL! They will _never_ be for sale, at least not with the nonsense that Elon spews about their "capability". Humanoid robots are a joke, completely useless and inefficient, a fun party trick, but that's about it.

[@jrichardson6]

Tesla’s recent designs have been widely criticized, with many finding them unattractive. Meanwhile, Tesla seems to be playing catch-up to Waymo, which already has robotaxis operating in cities like San Francisco using electric vehicles made by hyundai jaguar and geely a chinese manufacturer. In addition, some wonder what has become of Elon Musk’s other ambitious ventures, such as the Hyperloop and The Boring Company, both of which seem to have stalled or faded from public attention. While Tesla continues to face challenges, one of Musk’s more impressive recent achievements was the “chopstick catch” of the Starship during a test, which many found amazing. For Tesla shareholders, the vision of groundbreaking advancements in electric vehicles and autonomous driving remains, but some may feel like they’re still waiting for those promises to fully materialize. One can’t help but imagine that longtime investors might be holding onto their shares, hoping that Tesla will eventually deliver on its bold claims. For now, it seems Tesla’s journey is a mix of impressive feats and ongoing challenges.

[@paulc6766]

Waymo is a local cab service only. Of such limited value, FSD will give mobility to millions around the world without any additional work.

[@TomTom-cm2oq]

Sandy, you are as always, pure awesomeness. Your main flaw is that there is only one of you.

[@koc188]

Hey Sandy, how much do you get paid by Tesla? Just wondering.

[@st-ex8506]

Sandy is not AT ALL of the character to say something he does not agree with! You obviously haven't followed him for very long!