Fantastic modification. It would be great if Xiaomi produced an upgrade kit for the 365 with a full set of easy to follow instructions for those of us that don't understand electronics. I would love to do this modification but it's too risky for me. Instead of getting double the range it would end up not working at all ...lol. Great video.
@DougHnut6 жыл бұрын
Thanks!find a friend who likes to tinker with electronics. and pay him to do it. if you have all the parts, it shouldn't take more than 2 hours to complete.
@TheLKline6 жыл бұрын
You're welcome; you're a talented individual. I don't know anyone with the knowledge to carry out this modification so I'm pretty much stuck in one place from that perspective. I was considering the a complete scooter upgrade like the Inokim OX, but it's very expensive and I fear the performance claims are wildly exaggerated like most scooter manufactures. Would you happen to have any tips on fitting the solid tyres to the M365? I was reluctant to buy them but get punctures on an almost weekly basis in both wheels and I've got tired of buying inner tubes; they just perish with the heat generated inside the tyre. Thanks again for the videos.
@DougHnut6 жыл бұрын
i tried solid once and i didn't like them. i use a microwave to heat up the tire first and that helped alot . but i read somwhere its better to not use a microwave, and just install it as is. maybe the ones with holes in them are better
@TheLKline6 жыл бұрын
Thank you for taking the time to reply. I've actually already purchased the solid tyres you refer to (the hole version) but they're quite literally impossible to install. There is no pliability with the compound, it's just solid. I spent hours yesterday trying to put one on but it was a hopeless task, despite soaking them in boiling water (something I read on a forum). Haven't tried the microwave tip yet as I was disinclined to place them in my brand new oven lol. Plus, I've heard similar to you that it's not a good idea. I'm at a crossroads with this scooter; I think it's a fantastic machine, but the continuous punctures remove the practicality from owning it. It's just a pity these common problems haven't been addressed by the manufacturer with a tubeless tyre conversion. This scooter has so much potential, but the simple things haven't been addressed. Hopefully they'll eventually bring out a new model with considerably more power & range, plus tubeless or solid tyres. Thanks again for your interaction & help. Much appreciated.
@DougHnut6 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the kind words. I forgot to suggest a tire liner. Commonly used in bicycles. It's a thick liner that goes between the tire and tube.
@jb-lu4vo5 жыл бұрын
Very good video is an easy way to understand this matter very practical to improve the range of the battery. Thank you for doing it because I am thinking about to buying an electric scooter and I did not know which one to buy. I think this Xiaomi M365 is simple, practical, light and economical. The only thing is to be able to extend autonomy a little longer. I wish you the best and continue making videos about the Xiaomi M365, please. Take care.
@Achabab5 жыл бұрын
Are you buy it? How is it?
@parrotnine5 жыл бұрын
This has been the nicest reply I have ever seen to a KZbin video. Well done
@whitcwa4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this video. It is a good mod. I did it just a little differently. I didn't open the battery. I just spliced an XT60 connector to the battery wiring by doing a "window strip" on the wires. I used a piece of sheet aluminum to make a battery bracket and mounted the bag to the folding steering column just above the latch. Finally I added a battery multimeter which shows Volts, Amps, power, and energy used since last reset. This required adding a current shunt inside next to the motor controller. I charge the batteries separately by disconnecting the external XT60.
@josephmesina39754 жыл бұрын
Chris W you should do a video if its easier
@whitcwa4 жыл бұрын
@@josephmesina3975 It wasn't necessarily easier, just different.
@stanislawjarzynski61335 жыл бұрын
Doug, you're the man. I modified my m365 just like you showed us - and it works! Woo hoo!
@isaacwhoo28125 жыл бұрын
What fuse u used
@totodiable4 жыл бұрын
@Jesus Ramirez really? I can just steal the lime battery and put it on my xiaomi?
@slothypunk4 жыл бұрын
@Jesus Ramirez does that count as stealing? You can get arrested for that right?
@totodiable4 жыл бұрын
@Jesus Ramirez I bought an original battery for 100 bucks but I'm really curious about lime. The lime scooters here in Brussels aren't the same model as the xiaomi
@slothypunk4 жыл бұрын
@Jesus Ramirez if that's true, all I can say is this is why we can't have nice things as society. leave it alone and pass it on to the next person who wants to use it, even though the city hates it.
@valben11115 жыл бұрын
Great mod for old scooters with single fuse bms. Have installed a 10a/h battery and all works flawlessly.
@Bergwacht5 жыл бұрын
I actually think that the fuse is not necessary if you do not make a mistake in the conversion.
@dennisonicc Жыл бұрын
@@Bergwacht If you don't use diods for preventing charging you must use a fuse, otherwise you are risking burning your home down.
@Bergwacht Жыл бұрын
@@dennisonicc The comment is 3 years long, I still drive the same 2 batteries in parallel without a diode. Apparently you should only use good reliable BM;S and not trash dead cells from China.
@uzkanda5 жыл бұрын
Awesome mod. Small tip, you cold splice not the battery, but to power wires going to motor controller. It could show wrong power consumption, as one controller would be bypassed, but no need to dissemble the battery.
@MarbleRoller5 жыл бұрын
The second batttery voltage monitor you installed is connected to your add on battery... Which is connected to your main battery behind the BMS but after the ribbon strips.... So all your reading is the higher voltage of one of two batteries. Not a separate voltage since all you did was splice two packs together. You would have to be able to isolate that pack from the other to get an accurate reading. Otherwise, your just reading the voltage from whichever pack is giving more power....which is most likely the original...
@FinalVertex5 жыл бұрын
"range anxiety" :DDD good one
@flitsies6 жыл бұрын
Nice simple job. But one thing that may help if someone doesn't want to drill into their scooter is to use extra strong Velcro, this stuff is super strong once in place so won't fall off. Normal Velcro will fall off but the extra strong stuff won't allow your battery pack to fall off. But the stick on extra strong Velcro is very good for this kind of job.
@DatFunnyofficeguy4 жыл бұрын
Awesome guide, followed the steps and it worked perfectly. Yes i do suffer from range anxiety! There is such a thing! Im currently using cfw w firmwire and getting around 40kms on m365.
@willtrip7114 жыл бұрын
Does your top speed last twice as long?
@DatFunnyofficeguy4 жыл бұрын
@@willtrip711 no as soon as the voltage hit below 38v top speed drops to 30km per hour instead of 32 per hours. Cheers
@spyrosbellos25222 жыл бұрын
@@DatFunnyofficeguy how is the top speed when you are at low percentages like bellow 25%
@themystx25 жыл бұрын
excellent write-up, but one flaw with your methodology; although in theory it shouldn’t be an issue charging both batteries through the scooters charge port, the external battery BMS cannot protect against overcharge or properly balance in case of a runaway or defective charger. my advice to those would be always to charge the two packs separately whenever possible; you’ll get a full charge faster this way and will allow the external BMS to do its job on the input port in terms of balancing and protecting against overcharging. I also run a parallel battery setup on my Dualtron Spider and it’s close to tripled the range, i suspect due to the fact both batteries are drawing so much less current that they don’t break a sweat.
@sebeqone5 жыл бұрын
Is a single port charge/discharge BMS with external battery pack a good solution to this problem? I think the battery will be protected then.
@027fuckoff3 жыл бұрын
I don't understand your theory here, why would the BMS not be protected on the second battery pack? Wont it still be getting charged through the same electrical path which goes through the second batteries BMS? Why is this?
@Moe_Lester_fromUptwn5 жыл бұрын
I don't get the math, conversions and lingo, but kudos. It's great to safely experiment and explore beyond set limits, especially with the right know-how. Which you possess. I'd honestly pay for you to do one for me.
@PkKingX114 жыл бұрын
Is there not like a bigger battery that you can just replace the original instead of adding another one?
@cirwo854 жыл бұрын
Why not just add another one? Real simple I MAKE EXTRA BATTERY CONNECTOR KITS FREE OF CHARGE IN JESUS NAME (Y joint & extension Line with in-line fuse - the type most video tutorials are showing). I make these as a kindness in Jesus name/to serve the Lord/bring Him glory. I’ll even pay the shipping (For Jesus names glory). ID RECOMMEND EITHER OF THESE BATTERIES (Laudation great seller/great customer service) - Both these batteries can be charged thru discharge line which is mandatory! If you get a wrong battery you will destroy your scooter 8AH: www.ebay.com/itm/254641436327 12AH: www.ebay.com/itm/254638872330 In 2014 Jesus delivered me from heavy meth addiction, adderall prescription, alcoholism, cigs and all other sins I was walking in. No rehab or any other outside help. Just the Lord and His Word. Jesus is alive and changing lives! Eternal life only thru Jesus Christ, name above all names We can message on FB Messenger where you can see I’m a legit zealous Christian if you want. Can see I’m not a spammer or whatever that way
@plaguearttutorials3 жыл бұрын
Will the same connector setup (XT60) plugs Work on a 36 v 12ah battery Can I use your exact wiring?
@yungolsi33272 жыл бұрын
U deserve a subscriber bcoz u real man saying where u bough it and like as wel others yotuber dose not say it they not good 👍
@edz14114 жыл бұрын
If you convert 100 percent to LiPo or Life you have the advantage to play with discharge rates and max peaks. Which can give you double your speed and double your distance. Just cost more money and time. I'd suggest going into a local RC shop. You can find a charger that will charge 4 batteries at once.
@Mosquito33144 жыл бұрын
love this tutorial its really simple and striaghtforward. But imma gonna build my own battery pack from individual cells
@cirwo854 жыл бұрын
Sounds like you probably prefer to do this yourself but just in case; I MAKE EXTRA BATTERY CONNECTOR KITS FREE OF CHARGE IN JESUS NAME (Y joint & extension Line with in-line fuse - the type most video tutorials are showing). I make these as a kindness in Jesus name/to serve the Lord/bring Him glory. I’ll even pay the shipping (For Jesus names glory). ID RECOMMEND EITHER OF THESE BATTERIES (Laudation great seller/great customer service) - Both these batteries can be charged thru discharge line which is mandatory! If you get a wrong battery you will destroy your scooter 8AH: www.ebay.com/itm/254641436327 12AH: www.ebay.com/itm/254638872330 In 2014 Jesus delivered me from heavy meth addiction, adderall prescription, alcoholism, cigs and all other sins I was walking in. No rehab or any other outside help. Just the Lord and His Word. Jesus is alive and changing lives! Eternal life only thru Jesus Christ, name above all names We can message on FB Messenger where you can see I’m a legit zealous Christian if you want. Can see I’m not a spammer or whatever that way
@cicciottobiscotto50706 жыл бұрын
Ehy, thanks for this video. This mod might really make the difference! Also, it can slow down the wear of the original battery, as now it will be cycled half of the times basically.
@DougHnut6 жыл бұрын
absolutely correct!
@paulkazjack5 жыл бұрын
Not really. You've had to buy the extra battery!
@nikostevens14 жыл бұрын
@@DougHnut H Doug, I have a question about the fuse. I have a Xiaomi Pro. Since the scoote's has an output of 42V, what type of fuse should I use. The ones I see on Aliexpress are either 12V or 32V. Thanks in advance!
@davelee885 жыл бұрын
Just finished doing this modification. Only difference is, I didn’t solder the cables to the scooter battery, I used connectors instead. I also took the extended cable and ran it inside the steering tube which runs along side the red brake cable. To contain the battery, I used a Head Handle Bag which I bought from AliExpress. It’s much neater and saves you the leg space. Just waiting for this bloody rain to stop so I can test it out! 😤
@johanswede82005 жыл бұрын
...Everybody is talking custom firmware. I have a new Xiaomi m365 with the latest update...1.5.1 version. Not good they say. Better to have earlier versions. When you did your modification, did you have to consider what version you had? Do you think it will work for me with my 1.5.1 version?
@davelee885 жыл бұрын
Johan Swede, so far no issues but early days. Its made in 2018 and I’ve updated to. 1.5.1. Switched the regen braking to low as I heard it can damage the batteries. Haven’t bothered customising the firmware as I don’t have an Android phone.
@maxsinventions89136 жыл бұрын
I thought it would be cool to mod the deck of the board to make the battery hot swappable, and carry an extra with you. The additional capacity in your setup helps with the voltage sag, so that is nice.
@bsmaster84936 жыл бұрын
I was also thinking about this. To be carrying 2 more extra batteries in my bag :D And to do so i think u just need to make the main battery to be able to get disconnected and then u can just disconnect the main one and connect the other one .. Just not really sure if its gonna work well as in BMS is more cables to the circuit board. So there might be some problem with accepting the new battery.
@nickyclub445 жыл бұрын
Great video! Would be possible to upgrade the 18650 batteries in the original scooter battery?
@DougHnut5 жыл бұрын
I would be possible. But at best you'd get 10.5ah total , an improvement of 2.7ah with 3500mah li ion cells. Imho, it's not worth the effort and cost.
@kysfggt5 жыл бұрын
Instructions unclear, just left orbit and I'm gonna collide with the moon.
@pauliusmatiusovas41025 жыл бұрын
if so its not do it yourself thing :)))
@cirwo854 жыл бұрын
I can make you an easy kit (Y joint and extension line with in-line fuse - like most all the other video tutorials are doing) for $20 if you want. I did it for my scooter and works great.
@suratullahkhan61585 жыл бұрын
Can I put two batteries together like you did with cables even if they have one 7.8mha and 10.mha to get a total of 17.8mha as long as they have the same voltage (36v)?
@terragady5 жыл бұрын
yes
@xatoor5 жыл бұрын
im going to buy one in the next month ill wait till the warranty expires then ill attempt this mod with my electronic enthusiast friend if it works ill make sure to sub
@DieselRamcharger5 жыл бұрын
as long as all the cells are the same Mah and Volts its not bad. mixing different cells can be bad if they aren't well matched in capacity.
@rafaelcarlose73263 жыл бұрын
The fuse is 2A? Do you charge both batteries at the same time with 2 different chargers? What if during the charging there is a different charging time and it result in more voltage on 1 battery? Thx for the answer and thus video!
@mmt32365 жыл бұрын
Excited from your video, I tried to extend the battery capacity of my M187. Although everything was done according to your instructions, the battery capacity and range stay the same. (?) Both batteries are connected parallel without failure. Do you have an explanation?
@DougHnut5 жыл бұрын
The capacity on the apps will show the same, as well as the estimated range. Go out for a range test and let me know how it goes. If it is still them same then after the range test, can you measure the voltage of the extra pack and see if the voltage has dropped from a full charge or not.
@stannikolov5 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the video. I was thinking to create something like a power bank for my scooter to charge it when travelling. Do you think it is possible to use a lithium ion battery and plug it in the charging port to charge my scooter's battery?
@xxxzorroxxx1235 жыл бұрын
The only way to use like that is to use lipo and voltige converter to ujust voltige from lipo to scooter 42v plug....
@whitcwa4 жыл бұрын
Not without a current and voltage regulated DC-DC converter
@Deefolt4 жыл бұрын
Great Mod, but i don't recommend drilling on to the neck of that base. I think Double sided Velcro will do plus the strap of the bag will be secure enough. all in all. great great. just double my scooter range with this mod. thanks.
@cirwo854 жыл бұрын
I just used a couple zip ties . Works great. Bag hasn’t moved a centimeter
@Bergwacht5 жыл бұрын
Because of this video, I bought a hand full of tools, now my xiaomi drives 48 km far hahaha 48 Kilometers!! but i used a 10 ah battery .... NICE 👍👍👍👍 now it is more than 5 minutes 28 kmh before automatic slowdown to 24/25 kmh^ ^
@isaacwhoo28125 жыл бұрын
It messed up your scooter?
@Bergwacht5 жыл бұрын
@@isaacwhoo2812 Everything is great...that thing runs and runs and runs and runs
@sebeqone5 жыл бұрын
This external battery is a great idea, but are you sure, that you can safely charge this battery pack with the discharge port on this battery pack BMS? I cannot find documentation for this :/
@ptescreen183 жыл бұрын
Did you ever find out if you could do this or not
@thedeukful5 жыл бұрын
can you also just wire the same m365 batteries together the same way you did this? is there a limit to how many you can wire together? can i do 4? thank you for the video.
@Infinityxx36 жыл бұрын
Ive been waiting for this vid... tnx bro
@cirwo854 жыл бұрын
I doubt you still need it but just in case: I MAKE THESE KITS FREE OF CHARGE FYI (Y joint & extension Line with in-line fuse). I make these as a kindness in Jesus name/to serve the Lord. I can ship anywhere.. long as it is not too expensive I can pay the shipping (For Jesus names glory). ID RECOMMEND EITHER OF THESE BATTERIES (Laudation great seller/great customer service) - Both these batteries can be charged thru discharge line which is mandatory! If you get a wrong battery you will destroy your scooter 8AH: www.ebay.com/itm/254641436327 12AH: www.ebay.com/itm/254638872330 In 2014 Jesus delivered me from heavy meth addiction, adderall prescription, alcoholism, cigs and all other sins I was walking in. No rehab or any other outside help. Just the Lord and His Word. Jesus is alive and changing lives! Eternal life only thru Jesus Christ, name above all names We can message on FB Messenger where you can see I’m a legit zealous Christian if you want. Can see I’m not a spammer or whatever that way
@sebastianorad3 жыл бұрын
Hell, I have a Xiaomi Essential scooter with a range of 20km, can I replace the original battery with one from ali express that says 60km ? Do I have to make any modification or is it just plut and play ?
@armandmartinez71105 жыл бұрын
How about making a 2nd battery case that is mounted on the stepping platform which holds already the original battery pack beneath it? It should be possible to add a 12.8 Ah Pro Version battery. In that case you would stand elevated a bit because of the 2nd battery packed on top of the 1st above the platform, but spreading the batteries over the entire space should not increase the height too much.
@orangestoneface2 жыл бұрын
then harder on knee to bend down more to help uphills by kicking on ground backwards
@SuperBujo835 жыл бұрын
Would there be a way to ever run two factory batteries on an On/Off/On switch and effectively have a 'reserve tank'? I'd be interested to see that done.
@whitcwa4 жыл бұрын
It could be done, but not with "factory batteries". Only one "factory battery" fits in the scooter. Plus, there is little reason to do it. It wouldn't increase the range over paralleling two batteries. You still wouldn't know exactly when the second battery would run out. It also wouldn't help with reducing voltage sag on hills. Also, you can NOT parallel a dead battery with a charged one. Too much current will flow and the BMS will shut the battery down (if the fuse doesn't blow first).
@jeffedydooda5 жыл бұрын
great video,so how much further can you get by adding 2nd battery? I'm strongly thinking of buying scooter, but would really like it to be able to go a bit further than the estimated 20km
@varez15 жыл бұрын
on 5:00 you can see a screenshot - 40,4km and battery is on 2% (so basically empty). Original battery is 7800mAh, the one used on this video is 8000mAh, so the math is clear - it will go twice as long (the range will rise linear with added capacity, you can use 20000mAh battery - just remember it puts a weight on your scooter too and charges longer :P)
@mikepdel5 жыл бұрын
Hi thanks for the video I'm thinking on doing this to my scooter, a question how do the external battery cells get a good valance charge,
@cirwo854 жыл бұрын
Did you ever do it? I can make you a kit to add extra battery real easy. Just a y connector and extending line with in-line fuse. I sell them for $20
@Exploit-xi3co4 ай бұрын
Thanks a lot , I'm planning to do this on my m365 pro
@John-ep4in5 жыл бұрын
don't drill a stressed member, just use heavy duty hose clamp.
@whitcwa4 жыл бұрын
You can mount the battery to the folding handle support. It is under very little stress.
@027fuckoff3 жыл бұрын
Awesome video dude I just watched it for the mileage that someone could typically experience with the second battery pack as I was unsure how far I could go, took away some anxiety cheers :)
@jewitdawel18775 жыл бұрын
"People who suffer from range-anxiety" 🤣🤣🤣 awesome
@itsthem56995 жыл бұрын
???
@jewitdawel18775 жыл бұрын
@@itsthem5699 dont boy
@rrcw3205 жыл бұрын
I lost you when you began to speak in Chinese during the electrical part. Good idea though...
@__J__A__X__3 жыл бұрын
Hi there mate. Thanks for making such an informative video. Are you still offering to make up and send the connector cables required to hook up additional battery? I've just recently bought a 36v 14ah battery identical to yours in the video but am clueless how to get it hooked up like you did in the video
@cs20m4 жыл бұрын
So, it's all about just placing another similar battery in parallel to the existing one? How is this new battery charged ? do you simply connect the charger to its jack and it would charge both batteries at the same time ? is it safe for both batteries and the circuits ?
@artofverity87915 жыл бұрын
how about splitting the original battery pack into 3 so they are under the 100watt hr allowed on a flight?
@aragorn3186 жыл бұрын
Do you know what 'Cycle Period' is under Battery Info? Does this mean how many times the battery would have been fully drained if never recharged?
@DougHnut6 жыл бұрын
Yes it shows how many times the scooter has used up 7800 mah worth of battery power. The other number is how many times you plugged in for a charge
@aragorn3186 жыл бұрын
How many battery cycles do you have on your scooter? I bought a new battery two months ago and currently have 16
@DougHnut6 жыл бұрын
I currently have 74 full cycles. Sounds like you ride quite a bit!
@aragorn3186 жыл бұрын
Yeah, this e-scooter is the perfect changeup to my SUV, road bike and mountain bike. I like to ride this 5-6 miles everyday. I've got around 1250 km on it
@aragorn3185 жыл бұрын
Just so you know, I did permanently damage my original battery 4 months ago when I rode with CFW and BMS 1.07 setting every day for a few weeks as featured in one of your prior videos. But that battery damage probably occurred due to a number of other factors in combination. At the time, I was also riding with solid rear tire, was going up some steep inclines, weigh 185 lbs, and was very hot outside at the time. Nevertheless, I don't recommend CFW and BMS 1.07 because I noticed that my connection points on my controller are permanently burned and also, there are some burn marks on my white plastic fender near my front hub motor.
@JJbrosis6 жыл бұрын
It’s awesome video man for xiaomi m365 lover ..thanks for your awesome video
@thomaspowell37394 жыл бұрын
It’s best done by Someone who knows what they are doing, as any mistakes could damage the motor
@jeffro10054 жыл бұрын
Thomas Powell and set you on fire 🔥 Lol I’ve seen a Lipo fire from a 7.4v Lipo 2ah. 36v Lipo ain’t nothing to play with.
@bvgb9212 жыл бұрын
I would advise NOT to use 2 batteries of different ampage as the charge rate will be different on them both, you can easily over charge a battery this way, far better to use 2 batteries of the same ampage.
@kirambix7410 Жыл бұрын
Not if you get a pack with overcharge protection.
@FrostFoxBeats2 жыл бұрын
2:39 can somebody help? What is that plastic cover thing on the side? And what about the fuse? I dont see it linked in the parts list. I am not an electrician i have no clue about this stuff please be easy on me
@jan16875 жыл бұрын
Hi! I really enjoyed watching the video. Great job! I am planning on using a 10s4p 12ah battery.I was wondering if you knew the maximum amperage of the battery, what is the max the esc supports. Would really appreciate a reply! Thanks!
@antovrbat99465 жыл бұрын
You should't worry about amperage. Bigger batteries have more amperage. But generally esc have max 500w so 500/42 is 12A. But wiring in parallel You are summing amperage, voltage is same. In series voltages are summing and amperage is same.
@jan16875 жыл бұрын
@@antovrbat9946 so if I were to wire 2 6 amp batteries in parallel I would get a battery with double the amperage and capacity? I know the capacity increases, but does it affect the amount of current the battery can produce? Many thanks!
@antovrbat99465 жыл бұрын
@@jan1687 Yes you are increasing amperage. Because Power=current * voltage. Voltage is same, so current must be dubbled. Only thing you need to check is voltage. It MUSt be same, and you need to check manually with multimeter. And batteries should be simillar capacity. Because of voltage drops, weaker battery.
@whitcwa4 жыл бұрын
@@jan1687 Don't confuse maximum Amp rating with Amp-hour rating. They measure different things.
@Cyril29a4 жыл бұрын
I don't understand why you are soldering on the the battery and not simply modifying the connector? You already have the positive and negative leads on the end of the wire, Why not simply splice in the second batter there? Why risk soldering the on the battery? Heck you could even make an extension cable that that plugs in to the existing terminal and has an extra split off of it to reconnect both batteries to the scooter. That cable has to be able to support the amperage from both batteries anyways as it will be the thing feeding the scooter in both configurations.
@KaktitsMartins5 жыл бұрын
Why is your fully charged batteries only 41.2v? I understand the scooter limits the voltage to 41.5, does the aliexpess battery limit it too? Either way, 41.2 is not exactly full.
@whitcwa4 жыл бұрын
It is bad to charge lithium cells to their maximum allowable voltage. It leads to shortened battery life and increases the possibility of developing internal short circuits which can lead to fire. That said, the difference between 41.5 and 41.2 is too small to be significant. It is only 0.03 V /cell
@ucheucheuche6 жыл бұрын
Thanks! for this video, because it's in English. I searched to tutorials but in Russian or something. Side wish, that Tesla Model 3 battery, the 2170 cell, could replace the ones use in M365.
@craigwflys6 жыл бұрын
Too bad no one has designed something where you could mount (piggyback) an additional battery with a similar shape on top of the original battery and then one would also need to replace the battery cover with a newer deeper one (maybe an inch thicker) to cover both. Looks like you'd still have about 2" of ground clearance but going off any steps or a curb would basically be eliminated. I don't like how the ES2 mounts the extra battery up high on the steering column. I've heard it really throws off your balance.
@DougHnut6 жыл бұрын
doc hello from russia makes a custom larger battery with a deeper battery cover. but that deeper battery cover probably costs as much as this setup. i agree lower is better. this is about as low as i can mount the battery without sacrificing ride height or foot space. i haven't noticed any adverse affects to the handling while riding. gues i got used to it. i must admit the kick stand is able to hold up the scooter on a flat surface, but on any uneven surface, it is more likely to tip over. i think i need to DIY a custom kickstand to stick out further for more stability
@craigwflys6 жыл бұрын
A couple weeks ago I bought a 3D printed kick stand cover from Curious Joe and the bottom of it has a bit of a larger foot which is completely flat but it's probably still too small for your weight issues. I'll just have to wait for your video :)
@codyrozema4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the great video! After installing a mod like this, does the battery indicator on the dashboard still work? Does is show the capacity of both batteries?
@slick19084 жыл бұрын
it should, as the battery capacity is read by the voltage in batteries, not by the actual capacity
@codyrozema4 жыл бұрын
@@slick1908 Great, tnx! Now we're still on the wait for AliExpress to ship the battery but I cant wait for the project
@sunghoryu9442 жыл бұрын
I am also writing in connection like you. And my aircraft is an m365 model, and two genuine 7.8ah batteries are connected. However, it can only be used with a range of 16 km. Why?
@Supervhizor5 жыл бұрын
M365 tools still obviously report the capacity as 7800mAh since that's the size of the original battery. Does this mean that after a full discharge, the scooter will think it has -8000mAh remaining since that's the size of the additional battery? I'd assume it calculates charge remaining by voltage, not current drawn so the extra juice should still be used right?
@corinful6 жыл бұрын
Hi Doug what an awesome mod👍👍 Could you tell me what is the best way to store a Xiaomi scooter if I'm not going to be using it for a while? Fully charge or Discharge it or somewhere in between? Thank you my friend.
@nogoogltalk6 жыл бұрын
I am not doug but if you want to store it some month keep the battery at 50%, but control it at least every two month for accidental draining.
@Matahalii5 жыл бұрын
Hey, cool stuff. Like to do it to my scooter, too. Must I get a battery with dedicated "Common" BMS? I guess in a "Seperate" BMS you can't load it through the scooter's chargeport and must use the dedicated charge-plug?
@TheLondonCyclist5 жыл бұрын
Yes. If the battery has BMS, then you can charge through normal port both.
@DoroteoVilla5 жыл бұрын
Hey, thanks for all your tutorials. They've saved me a lot of frustration with owning a couple of these. One of them has just stopped working. The front wheel is spinning in jerks and stops. The battery is fine. I don't think it's the bearing because they spin fine if the scooter isn't on. It's when the power is on that the front wheel spins in fits and jerks. It isn't the break either because I tried the front wheel with it off the ground to see how it spun. Have you experienced this before? .Thanks.
@EvzenEmanuelАй бұрын
How do you balance the cells inside your external battery pack?
@grigoriosgrigoriadis46575 жыл бұрын
Hi guys! Great work as always. I have a question: What is the max size of battery I could add to Xiaomi m365? I mainly see on the internet 8ah, 10ah and 12ah. What about 20ah or even 30ah? Is that even possible ?I am not an electrician so my question may be stupid.
@danielgomes38322 жыл бұрын
Good afternoon Is it possible to change the xiaomi mi scooter 3 battery for a battery with greater capacity while keeping my xiaomi app? Or do I need a different application?
@Apollo32884 жыл бұрын
Hey thanks for the video. I have a hover-1 pioneer. But I did the same thing, however the one battery I ordered was 36 volt and I made a y cable with the fuse and connected them both. My question is how do I know if the one battery is not just draining into the other. I'm not sure that I'm getting any further. What would be your advice to test this? FYI I'm brand new at this. And advice would help
@xlines6 жыл бұрын
Nice add-on. I did a similar one on my swagtron electric scooter. Though i had to do a lot to make my scooter working ruggedly. How are the authorities in you city with these scooters. Here in Winnipeg. It is treated as a regular kick scooter. Sidewalks and bike lanes but not allowed on road ways. But I don’t thing no one enforces it. I see a lot of bikes being ridden on sidewalks which is illegal here.
@DougHnut6 жыл бұрын
i haven't been bothered by any police. likely because im not doing 50 kph on a scooter. so we dont pose a threat to others or property. 30 kph is just as fast as a lot of pedal bikes. i ride mostly on bike lanes shared with a rodaway
@jackmenino96546 жыл бұрын
Nicely done. I'm waiting on my Xiaomi, within a week or so.
@dawidjagodzinski73344 ай бұрын
Hey, im after installing second battery. I have problem because my charger is only lighting red light. It is normall? I application downg i only see original battery with 100% but charger is not going to green light
@workcrapbox5 жыл бұрын
Great clear video, do you think this is mod/upgrade is also applicable for the M187 (Youth Edition)?
@jashton87104 жыл бұрын
Does the original factory battery not use a BMS? If so, would you not want to charge each battery pack separately? I see that the add-on does not have a BMS.
@unluckeh5 жыл бұрын
2:29 Did you notice that??? sparkle sparkle oO right where the red cables starts (battery side) Not sure if thats good
@Falleen5 жыл бұрын
that is the bms normal led mode.
@jesper164a5 жыл бұрын
I think you forgot your glasses... It's clearly a LED flashing.
@johncobbiah5 жыл бұрын
my second battery is 35v , i have been charging it for a whole day , can i connect it now or wait till 41v. thanks
@Ouli935 жыл бұрын
definitely be the same as the first one. If the voltage differential is to high it will destroy your battery
@whitcwa4 жыл бұрын
If you've been charging it for a full day and it is only 35V then either the battery or the charger is bad. A 6V difference will cause too much current to flow from the internal battery to the external one. Even if the fuse doesn't blow, you'll still be discharging the main battery.
@DubiousEngineering5 жыл бұрын
Great work! ... I have an M365 on order and I think I’ll mod it too! ... :)
@kingofkings32005 жыл бұрын
Dubious Engineering Hi. Did u buy it ?? How is it?
@imanipowell67655 жыл бұрын
Can you connect the extra battery in parralell through the charging port? (I have a scooter with a embedded battery)
@whitcwa4 жыл бұрын
Probably not. Charge ports are not designed to handle the current demand.
@fsuamen5 жыл бұрын
how do you solve the overheating issue?
@toddcoye88564 жыл бұрын
So what? Are you simply just hooking up the other battery to the factory battery terminals and using x60 connectors? And a fuse in between? Does the fuse part go in the bag or compartment? Does it matter which end? what about the factory battery connector ? Do you just leave it the way it is? None of this was explained in whole what is being done
@toiletpapermatters6985 жыл бұрын
Great video! In order to maximise the original battery' lifespan, should you re-recharge the scooter after every use , even if the battery is not empty yet or will the original battery last longer if you only re-recharge when the battery is completely empty?
@kiwi80542 жыл бұрын
You want to minimise the amount of charge/discharge cycles but you also shouldn't discharge the battery to 0%, I recommend charging at about 10-20%
@kronosvv45185 жыл бұрын
Hey What kind of fuse do i need if Install a 4.4a 36v battery
@pauliusmatiusovas41025 жыл бұрын
same 25 A
@Melvin420x124 жыл бұрын
How about recalibration of the battery meter in the scooter itself? I assume it doesn’t know about the second battery. So does it stop charging once it thinks the original battery is full? Does it charge and not stop? How does this exactly work in firmware?
@stephendoyle35426 жыл бұрын
Great job man. Wish I had the skills to do it. Is there any of connecting an external battery that's already charged to the scooter while out on it?
@DougHnut6 жыл бұрын
Thanks! Good question! No this is not recommened because the voltage difference between the two batteries would be to great. This would cause the fully charged battery to charge the empty battery at an uncontrolled rate. This would generate a lot of heat, damage the batteries and possible fire.
@stephendoyle35426 жыл бұрын
@@DougHnut Heh Heh ok, see this is why I don't have the guts to try this stuff 😂 thanks for coming back to me. I'll subscribe.
@jobysebastian39225 жыл бұрын
Hey bro have you did any mods for battery extension😁?
@e-scooters-france5 жыл бұрын
Thank you sooooooo muuuchhhh bro ❤️ That work so great !!! 👍👍👍 Thank's again 🌺💐🌺
@mastorakakis6 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video. The battery you suggest doesn't get shipped to Greece. Can you tell me what are the specs I should take in consider if I have to order it from somewhere else? Also, will it work if I buy the original battery and use it as an external. Is the size right enough?
@DougHnut6 жыл бұрын
Search 10s4p on aliexpress. And look for one sold by or is labeled littokala. It should have a capacity of 8000mah or 8ah .
@gresoiumadalin97206 жыл бұрын
There are two ways to put this battery in parallel. This one you’re showing in your video and with a Y splitter before the bms . Which one do you think is better ? I assume that using the Y splitter you need to charge separately
@alexclau65385 жыл бұрын
what if i would buy the same battery my xiaomi m365 has and do the rest of the process you described? would that work? with the same kind of battery?
@bvgb9212 жыл бұрын
Yes it would work.
@dennisk62013 жыл бұрын
so you buy a 36 volt battery pack and charge it up to 42 volts? doesn,t sound very save to me
@story12342 жыл бұрын
Hey. If my external battery is 6AH and my internal is 7.5AH, will the battery of the 6AH just cut off when it’s exhausted due to its own BMS?
@Chubbytom212 жыл бұрын
How can you tell if your battery can charge from the same Xt60 discharge port?
@Ruben-hf1fw4 жыл бұрын
Could be possible to add a extra battery of 36v 12.8ah combining with my original xiaomi pro with 37 vdc 12.8ah ?? Or need to be the same numbers!!
@psy8812125 жыл бұрын
just out of curiosity why didnt you just connect the discharge charge port of the new battery to the charge port of the old battery when both are of equal voltage? it would prevent you from having to solder anything.
@sandy12348535 жыл бұрын
I have done this but I noticed in the xiaomi app that after just a short ride that the external battery was back reading and triggering the charging state of my scooter seems a bit odd as there voltage was exactly the same when connected but after the ride they were .3v out
@alltheboost53634 жыл бұрын
So I was reading Googling on how to add a second battery cuz I believe I came across one of your posts that you burned up your controller. how long did it last what do you think the cause was? Be awesome if you went into great detail on a video. What I don't understand is why don't people bypass the BMS to the speed controller but leave the BMS there for charging and balancing.
@randomstuff-wg6nj5 жыл бұрын
hey Can I Connect a Extra battery Through The charging Port
@Marauder2525 жыл бұрын
No
@randomstuff-wg6nj5 жыл бұрын
@@Marauder252 well I figerd That Out. and U can't Do it stock No. But If You Solder on extra Wires To the Charging Wires u can Resolder them from the bms Directly to the Battery and Then It Will Work
@ejmatthee82905 жыл бұрын
How do you make sure the batteries don't charge/drain each other? I thought they would constantly try to balance each other?
@DougHnut5 жыл бұрын
as long as both batteries are in good health, they will not drain each other. i've ridden about 300 km like this with out problems. and i did the same thing to my electric skate board except i use 3 battery packs in parallel
@flitsies4 жыл бұрын
Any problems or charging issues once battery in place? I can't see any reason for there to be any but lithium batteries can behave strangely some times
@petryrety4 жыл бұрын
We need to flash custom firmware to cancel charging mode effect? Or there we don't have this problem? Thanks
@user-ub6zu9kv8h4 жыл бұрын
Can you do a video for how to add extra battery to the Xiaomi HIMO C20? I think many people are looking for that and no one has done it yet. It's gonna have a good feedback. Thanks
@Apollo32884 жыл бұрын
Also I ordered the battery meter, but I have no idea where or how to install that.... So I just have it here. Can you please show me how to do that
@pajoche4 жыл бұрын
Hi Dough. Can I use as same battery charger for the external battery as I use for the regular battery in the Xiaomi M365? I guess yes as the parameters match but just to be sure. Thanks
@volpii4 жыл бұрын
hello dear, how do you charge external battery? saparately or internal and external batteries charging together from main charge plug?
@volpii4 жыл бұрын
i got the answer in 4:30 :)
@cirwo854 жыл бұрын
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