XII Legion 'World Eaters': Origins & History (Warhammer & Horus Heresy Lore)

Being a record of the blood-soaked butchers of the Great Crusade, the utterly lethal XII Legion World Eaters.
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[@Brutalyte616]

I believe Kharn said it best: "The Emperor needed a weapon that would never obey its own desires before those of the Imperium. He needed a weapon that would never bite the hand that feeds. The World Eaters were not that weapon. We've all drawn blades purely for the sake of shedding blood, and we've all felt the exultation of winning a war that never even needed to happen. We are not the tame, reliable pets that the Emperor wanted. The Wolves obey, when we would not. The Wolves can be trusted, when we never could. They have a discipline we lack, because their passions are not aflame with the Butcher's Nails buzzing in the back of their skulls.The Wolves will always come to heel when called. In that regard, it is a mystery why they name themselves wolves. They are tame, collared by the Emperor, obeying his every whim. But a wolf doesn't behave that way. Only a dog does. That is why we are the Eaters of Worlds, and the War Hounds no longer."

[@commissarlugh1040]

huanting

[@Volos__]

Such a swell guy.

[@igneous061]

....but then his legion fcked off at the first oportunaty.....

[@TheSeanoops]

Strangely articulate for a savage.

[@hectorandem2944]

Shade = Thrown. 😎

[@axelNodvon2047]

Has anyone noticed that Kharn is the 8th Captain of the legion? And Khorne's number is 8.

[@johnnyscifi]

Kharn even said "i am the eightfold path" to Garviel Loken. Ofcourse it wasnt coincidence!!!

[@hansstrudel9614]

@@saulwright5663 I feel like Malcador would have brought that up. Malcador: So um, about these war hound guys... Big E: Yeah? what about them? Malcador: Aren't they a little... *too* angry? Big E: what do you mean? Malcador: They seem to enjoy killing and death just for the sake of it. They don't care who is dying just so long as they're dying. Big E: So what? They get results. Malcador: Isn't that pretty similar to "He does not care from whence the blood flows, so long as it flows?" Big E: Oh shit...

[@BastiatC]

@@saulwright5663 well the space wolves and night lords were pretty obviously unhinged as well.

[@sheldongoodfellow9686]

I believe Angron is one of the most relatable characters in Warhammer, and has more depth than would be believed if people take a minute to gaze past his ever present rage boner and sky high levels of anger. He was the only primarch to not conquer or reign his adoptive world. The only primarch to be enslaved and wounded in a way none of the others were, and he felt pain that no one could endure every second of his waking life. A creation meant to conquer tyrants and instill peace and prosperity, became bitter and full of rage when he was denied the ability to fulfill that purpose by those who gave him the Butcher's Nails. Angron had the last source of redemption and happiness in his life stolen from him, when the Emperor teleported the primarch away from his comrades at the last minute. He hated his father at that moment and ever onward, and soon came to hate his brothers when he heard of how they all achieved their purposes with gusto. Angron hates himself. He hates his legion. He hates the Emperor. He hates everything. And from that hate, blood will flow in rivers as skulls rise up from the red tide to form monuments of rage.

[@worldeater2414]

Exactly! This is why they are my favorite, and why I argue Angron is the best Primarch! There is depth there that any other fan of a different legion might find surprising!

[@bladestormviking]

the only guy who could possibly come close to understanding him is Conrad, and that's only because he grew up a feral cannibal vigilante in a hive city. had the emperor at least GONE BACK TO NUCERIA AND FOUND OUT HOW THE GODDAMN NAILS WORKED and told Kurze "you're not crazy son, you're psychic".... a lot of messes would not have been made. Angron was not educated like the other primarchs, the emperor didn't even try once he saw the Cruciamen implant in his head. just chucked him on the conqueror and went "fucked if i know, y'all deal with him". very fatherly. you can't expect much love and loyalty from that root, it's as if Emperor knew what would happen and didn't give a shit.

[@stevepalpatine2828]

@@bladestormviking In Master of Mankind The Emperor took Angron back to Terra to see if the Nails could be removed, he talked to Arkan Land about the possibility but they discovered the Nails had replaced much of Angrons brain and couldnt be removed without killing him. The Emperor messed up by not sending the Custodes or the Warhounds down to Nuceria to reinforce Angrons men instead of teleporting him out and leaving them to die. If he had done that he would have gained Angrons respect and loyalty.

[@Heath86]

I wouldn't say he is the best primarch. He is certainly an interesting one. He knew the nails were terrible and what they did to him yet he encouraged his sons to take them. That was not the nails making him do it that was him becoming the same as his tormentors upon nuceria.

[@hansstrudel9614]

Steve Palpatine you’d think that the Emperor could use his “definitely not godlike powers” to fix Angron. He seems to be able to will matter into existence which is both complex and precise (fixing a knights armor that was suffering severe mechanical failure on Mars). It’s obviously something that cannot be fixed purely because Angron has to be angry or else he might not fall to Chaos so easily and be the perfect champion of Khorne. So it’s like, inverted plot armor?

[@FlourEater]

I am casual fan of WE, but Kharn pummeling Erebus to the ground was my favourite bit in books !

[@FlourEater]

damn right ! To clarify I am HUGE XVI player and a fan. Stuff like lodges and all the poison within was just Erebus´s work... Kharn teased me, but at the end, left me unsatisfied. Maybe next time..

[@Memento--Mori]

The War Hounds had an amazing paint scheme, along with the Heresy Era World Eaters. It's a shame the best Legions color wise turned traitor. RIP Luna Wolves and War Hounds.

[@VallornDeathblade]

The writers love to punish Erebus for his hubris and scheming. He also gets his face peeled off by Horus for trying to manipulate him in another book. (Also RIP Argel Tal)

[@VictorIV0310]

FirstName LastName If it makes you feel better, there’s some pretty neat AU fanfics where the Traitor Legions remained loyal whilst the Loyalists turned traitor.

[@xenon3990]

Coronarchivista Goldenyoreins Dornian heresy is great yea. Iron hands turn to necrons in that AU

[@TheSecondPrimarch]

While I get the Emperor not wanting to lose one of his precious sons in a slave revolt on a backwater planet, I think I have a better solution than what he did. Instead of MAKING Angron come, by porting him out of there, the God-Emperor could have earned his son's undying love and loyalty by simply standing WITH him. Imagine the glory of the Emperor following Angron into battle as their first bonding moment.

[@weldonwin]

The Emperor makes a lot of questionable decisions when it comes to the Primarchs, indeed he makes a lot of questionable decisions full stop. The abduction of Angron, his dealing with Lorgar, his apparently ignoring the obvious problems with the Night Lords, the Council of Nikea all spring to mind

[@Rogue.Rainbow]

Corinthian64 That would be the best father son bonding of all time

[@anxioussamurai9017]

I thought the very same thing! I don't understand why the Emperor wouldn't unleash some Astartes or stand with Angron. I hope at some point we learn more about some of his questionable decisions.

[@MrSwordJ]

I think its said best in the first HH book. The emperor is just so far removed from everyone around him save perhaps Malcador, that he no longer has the contact to make accurate judgment calls.

[@Heath86]

You cannot easily say the emperor should have done this. The emperor is the culmination of the physic power of several shamans almost a gestalt individual. Whose sole purpose is to elevate humanity to greatness. No one knows how such an individual who lived countless thousand years thinks or feels. He never showed love or affection really and that is what his sons desperately needed. Not to mention true fatherly guidance

[@DogseatDogs]

A band of brothers who were tragically turned into mindless murderers and slaughterers. One of my favourite legions and fallen heroes

[@Memento--Mori]

The War Hounds and Heresy Era World Eaters had amazing color schemes. It's a shame they fell to Chaos. They could have been a melee focused Loyalist Chapter, without all of the gay furry shit that comes with the Space Wolves.

[@DogseatDogs]

Collin The wolf fetish is a fault of the space wolves yes and you can make some great parody out of it. But the space wolves are the most melee oriented loyalist legion. That honour would fall to the Blood Angels with their deep strike capabilities. While the Space Wolves may give out the ruse of boisterous viking bruisers, they are tactically very clever and pragmatic, willing to use tricks, traps and firepower, especially in the 40k incarnation, to carry the day since they know well they can't always overpower their foes with strength and skill in a melee.

[@DogseatDogs]

Collin If I was to make a world eater csm warbands, i wouldn't make them out to be just the stupid evil kinds GW often do. I would have a warband of world eaters who may wear armour with spikes that may look impractical but act like swordbreakers that lock a foe's melee weapon in place for them to deliver a killing blow. They prefer a quick, decisve fight to take down as many enemies as possbile in the shortest amount of time. They realize the worth of their numbers and will use deranged mutants and gladiators with enhanced strength and minor regenaration as shock troops and cannon fodder. In the meantime they'll have a core of professional mercenaries, slaves and child soldiers trained ith the blood pact style with additonal training for fortification and laying supressive fire on the enemy to keep them from shooting. Basically a mix of roman legionaries, ottoman janisaries and english longbowmen. The most disciplined, or more correcly: least likely to run straight at the enemies without thought, world eaters will act as havocs laying down heavy fire or dedicated terminator elite. The rest of the world eaters will act as assault units striking from the rear or in the mist of charging mutants and gladiators. However, this chaos warband suffers from a lot of disciplinary issues, due to them trying to keep their cultists from turning on them and the strain of maintaining some decent logistics from salvaging, raiding and mining whatever resources in the eye of terror. Their chaos lord was once a promising young knight whos was forced to become a world eater, he's a sort of atoner who tries to act with honor and some common sense most of the time, while falling prey to the urges of the nail like other world eaters. He and his warband believes in a twisted way that khorne is the examplar of honor, fairness, glory and martial prowess, the virtues of his cose of chilvary. They will not slaughter the defenseless like children as they believe thei blood will anger khorne. They enforce a form of meritoracy amongst mortal and astartes alike, giving no favourism to anyone. Yet the nails keep driving them to commit ever deeper stain on their honor while their mortal followers become ever more frightful of them. They have feuds with word beares and dark mech, while they are wary of their own alllies, the black legion, alpha legion and the fallen. Ultimately, a group of doomed heroes who try to live upright in damnation.

[@bryandwyer2204]

Don't call the mindless, they're not. there is a reason Kharn's record is 20,000 - 0 - 1. What makes him so deadly is how calm and calculated he is. He's won many battles simply by swinging with the same pattern 3 or 4 times, luring people into a sense of repetition, then changing the pattern.

[@danielthrasher9943]

"Humanity has always had killers, for humanity has always needed killers. We have for our sins always seem to had a war, where the violent of our society have seem to always found their place.Where those who have tendencies or imbalances that set them so apart from the rest of our species, made a home in vocation and blood soaked battlefields. We have forever tried to deny the simple truth of our own nature, and pretend in our grand delusion that we long ago conquered these spiritual demons of our own worst inclinations. And yet with the advent of a new era the specter of war inevitably returns and mankind once again returns to those we label as wrong as recidivist as broken pitiful things to do the bloody work that no one else can do as well as they." True even in this day and age.

[@sanguiniusonvacation1803]

BLOOD FOR THE BLOOD GOD ! Wait ...wrong side ...

[@igneous061]

SKULLS FOR THE SKULL THRONE......it aint wrong side....throne of skulls = emparor and the golden throne

[@volatilesky]

Yes Inquisitor, this KZbin comment right here.

[@jesseberg3271]

Why, why why didn't the Emperor offer to bring the War Hounds to fight at the Eaters of Cities side? Wouldn't it have made more sense to bring the world to compliance then and there? Or at the very least, why not take the few thousand slaves with them off world? Hell, if the Emperor had gone all Bronze Age, thrown off his shirt, and fought at his son's side, Angeron might have become the most loyal of all the Primarchs.

[@paimonpress6760]

Exactly, the Emperor needed Angron to betray him and he never would have if he had saved his army.

[@AnIdiotsLantern]

@@paimonpress6760 maybe. I’m not one of those “the Emperor always planned for the Primarchs to revolt” people. Malchador claimed that they were always supposed to kill each other off but considering the damage done to the Imprium I think it was supposed to happen far from Terra, if he wasn’t just lying. The simplest explanation is Big E screwed up. He does a lot of justifying his decisions in retrospect. He spends so much time looking at the future he forgets that he does in fact have a present he needs to navigate somehow.

[@cappinjocj9316]

Because, without his hatred of his father, Angron would have withered and died. The Emperor chose Angrons eternal hate over the slow death of his son. In hindsight, the compassion of the Emperor toward Angron was a tragic mistake.

[@surtaandume_psykermystyk4010]

Y'know what I noticed.... nobody ever panics when things go according to plan. Even if the plan is horrifying! Like, if I told the Imperium that, tomorrow, like, a few Lictors would be stomped flat by a VIIth Legion Heavy Intercessor, or a ridiculous rocketing moon full of GreenSkins would be blasted to _excrementum absolutum_ by a Battle Barge's broadside canon array, nobody panics... cause it's all _part of the plan._ But when I say that one embittered Primarch will fall to Chaos, betray the entire Imperium and even *The EMPEROR* himself... Well, then, everyone loses their minds!!

[@OljeiKhan]

It might be that he could foresee the heresy and had to choose wich legion would fall to Khorne. If the choice was between loyalty of Sanguinius where Angron turns traitor or the loyalty of Angron where Sanguinius falls traitor , it's fairly easy to see why he acted the way he did. This is the explanation i come to by the linking of plotpoints however i am not pleased one bit by it. I do not think he HAD to force Angron and his legion into that downward spiral.

[@rosicroix777]

Ecellent narration ! The first minute & 45 seconds so perfectly sums up the world eaters that if GW was smart , they'd pay you for it & use it in the next codex for them. Its allways good to see a new video from you, i know they take time as you write your own scripts rather than simply read the lore on the wiki page. Allways well worth the wait, keep up the great work Remembrancer.

[@OculusImperia]

Thank you so much! Badger them and maybe they'll give me a job ;)

[@socialanimalmedia]

Just found this channel and you are very right. Each Legion has such great history - so much depth to be explored - and yet that potential is often subordinate to the surface narratives of, in this case, a bunch of totally mindless "bad guys" in polar opposition to their true and good adversaries, often the "good and pure" Astartes of the Ultramarines. Heck, the Ultramarines are an awesome, nuanced and at times flawed bunch, but those dimensions are rarely brought to the surface in official material. Captain Titus was awesome in his intelligent analysis of the Codex Astartes and Graham McNeil's compelling portrayal of Uriel Ventris and Pasanius - especially in "Dead Sky, Black Sun" - was very well done. Still, other Legions/Chapters besides the Angels and the Wolves need a little more love. Especially the Iron Hands.

[@ultramarine0123]

RIP the warhounds

[@Memento--Mori]

Amazing color scheme... RIP will be missed.

[@worldeater2414]

You do my legion more then a justice. You give it high honours! Your summary of the legion in the first few seconds is more accurate then ever, and speaks volumes about how we even in real life treat and think of our military. The lore is accurate, yet feels like it is spoken by a scribe on Holy Terra itself in the vaults; and for that... You give a enriching experience. You don't cover everything, but cover enough to convey what exactly the legion is or was.... A legion of those who were thought up of as dogs, as simple minded automatons who kill on command. Like the Terminator, or something similar. No. They were more and less. Saying that the Blood Angels is the World Eaters mirror is accurate, for not only does it nail it on the head.. It basically just decapitates it. A Legion, who broke their chains, only for them to be put back on by Khorne.... Thank you for your hard work, and service to making my legion better know. Bellum omnium contra omnes! -W.E

[@joshuataranto2777]

easily the best and most informative videos on the canon! Much love my Friend

[@OculusImperia]

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[@Kossagubben]

@El Duderino oh yeah mannen

[@KaelisRa81]

Ahhh, it just keeps getting better and better. :-)

[@invadervim9037]

This is honestly one of the best 40k series that I have found on youtube. You deserve so many more views and likes. Please keep up the amazing work.

[@OculusImperia]

Thanks a mil! If you like the channel please give it a share wherever you can, it always helps :)

[@invadervim9037]

Oculus Imperia believe me, I already have

[@Ideo7Z]

So could it be that some of the Legions' temperaments and fighting styles were psychicly influenced by how their Primarchs were raised on the various planets they were deposited to?

[@Sliceofpi]

IDeO that is always been the underlying idea. It's one of the main reasons people believe that the emperor caused the scattering on purpose.

[@OculusImperia]

It's certainly debateable, the role that nature and nuture played with the primarchs. Certainly, it cannot be ignored that many found very suitable homeworlds to inculcate certain aspects of their selves. Magnus found a world of scholars, for example. Whether this was some grand scheme on the part of one power or other, however, is up in the air.

[@ESO-ONE]

I really like that you label the pictures in your videos. Really give it a genuine documented feel. It makes the videos more immersive. Cant wait for the next one.

[@leopoldjenkins]

This is fast becoming my favourite KZbin channel... for anything. Not just 40k lore

[@OculusImperia]

[@StarSage66]

We need *more* Also Word Bearers please

[@TheSeanoops]

Grumbles Boooo, screw the band of heretics.

[@TheSeanoops]

The World Eaters were censored, the emperor ordered Angron to stop implanting the butchers nails into his new recruits. Angron didn’t obey, but he was told to stop.

[@warhound888]

Ive been legit coming back to this vid for a rewatch for the last few months. Brilliant series idea my dude, keep it up!

[@OculusImperia]

Thanks so much!

[@Memento--Mori]

We need another chapter with the badass name *War Hounds,* who have a battle cry of "Let loose the dogs of war!"

[@dinodino7514]

Collin yt? Warhammer is supposed to be about your dudes so make em' yer Dudes Dude

[@BestBoySaika]

Truly the best 40k Lore KZbinr

[@OculusImperia]

[@lordinquisitorjohn1357]

Just found this channel and I just have to say I think this is one of the best lore video's I have ever seen the first minute sums up the world eaters perfectly and it only gets better from there.

[@OculusImperia]

Thanks so much for the kind words :)

[@TherealSBlair]

Absolute fantastic presentation, as is typical of this series. Well done. Cheers.

[@Britishperson131]

Exceptionally well made, i love the background music and a great narrators voice!

[@jakewestfall1634]

Hard to find channels that can keep the lore sounding fresh. Excellent work! About to binge watch every one of your videos.

[@8WE8]

You sir, are a gem. Please keep doing what you're doing and dont change a thing.

[@michaellapalme1198]

I can’t get over how much I love this channel. Thank you for another.

[@OculusImperia]

And thank you for the support!

[@ElectromagNick]

The Emperor not just crushing the opposition facing Angron under the weight of Legio Custodes and instead saving _only_ Angron and leaving his rebel band to die is something I never understood, and still refuse to believe would have been his actual decision.

[@rgnightscore3407]

Best vid I saw in a while. Nice voice and pointing out the reasons why things happened!! Amazing work bro.

[@OculusImperia]

Thanks a mil!

[@Volos__]

Really cool guy, that Kharn.

[@ondudengrund]

One of the very best lore videos I have ever seen on a WH40K ( 30K aswell I guess ) subject ! Great job !

[@ShaDO118k]

What a tragic story for a tragic Legion and Primarch. They are my favorite traitor legion, not for what they are necessarily but for what they could have been. The are the biggest waste of potential and it could have all been avoided if the emperor had just gave a shit. I blame what happened to the world eaters and Angron entirely on the emperor.

[@karupt422]

Nice video as always.

[@steventcunliffe]

Great lore video, I love your work!

[@thomasjohn9377]

My favorite legion thank you so much. They are all just champions :')

[@Toner_Cartirdge]

Hell yea! Been waiting for this one!

[@steventcunliffe]

Fantastic lore video!

[@theeternalchronicler3072]

The trio is complete. .....Eldar....

[@kirkcannon4704]

I love all of your content!

[@OculusImperia]

And I love YOU, Imperial citizen!

[@NegiTaiMetal011]

Great video presentation and narration as usual. Keep it up. Honestly the World Eaters are among my least favorite legions for they are not as refined as the rest; they are crazed butchers than warriors. Still I wonder what it'd be like if the Emperor chose to help Angron, save all his comrades and make them be part of the legion instead and then remove the Butcher's Nails? Surely the Emperor knows about how awful and corrupting it is despite it's benefits.

[@DJsharp707]

You never been in a fight in real life have you?

[@venerablebrothergoriate5844]

@@DJsharp707 his name didn’t give that away? Honestly, that’s why I love the World Eaters. They’re the only traitor legion I like. They just don’t give a shit. All they wanna do is fight and kill, to bury their chainaxes in the faces and innards of their enemies, and that’s beautiful.

[@robertron2476]

Amazing! Can't wait to see the rest!

[@OculusImperia]

Only a week and a half to go!

[@ravenwings666]

Amazing work again, I can’t wait for the Alpha Legion

[@OculusImperia]

Oh man, me neither.

[@gannonfrank]

always loved the world eaters and Angron can i suggest to do the Word Bearers 17th legion i always wonder what they were like before Logar love the videos keep up the good work

[@vitek2]

Easiest Patreon sub of my life.

[@OculusImperia]

[@Kettenhund82]

Greetings, brothers! *sign of Aquila*

[@alexromer2208]

FIrst of all... Absolutely love your videos man!!! You bring such an interesting perspective to the lore that I can't find anywhere else on youtube. Just for my own satisfaction, the crusade-era world eaters shouldn't have been wearing the aquilla on their armor and they definitely shouldn't have chaplains wielding a crozius like in that first image right?

[@Sliceofpi]

Alexander Romer you are confusing the Imperial Aquila with the emperor's raptor and lightning bolts. As Chaplains were created by Malcador the Imperial office is represented much as the Mechanicums cog is on tech marines. Or artists are too busy drawing to read...

[@OculusImperia]

I honestly can't tell if the chaplain is wearing a Palatine Aquila (the Emperor's sigil) or the raptor and lightning bolt emblem common of Unification Wars veterans, but my choice of the image was simply down to it being 1) hella cool 2) Crusade-era and 3) serving the purpose of the opening splash. But, excellently spotted!

[@alexromer2208]

Thank you for the reply man! Really wasn't try to give you a hard time I was just testing my own knowledge of the lore! please keep up the amazing work :)

[@OculusImperia]

Oh far from it, I appreciate when people point out stuff they feel I may have missed, cause if I have, it helps me learn! So please keep THAT up.

[@eisenhorn5494]

Dude, LEGITIMATE.

[@OculusImperia]

Thanks!

[@BlackViperMWG]

Very good, but it's a shame you didn't tell anything about Nuceria being already compliant world and about Angron killing one or two Custodes, before Emperor teleported him. I think those are key pieces of Angron's story.

[@joshuagrosvenor9837]

As someone who is just starting to get into the 40k universe by reading the Horus Heresy books I have to say your videos are an awesome source of information to fill in the gaps.

[@andrewsan1997]

i love these videos

[@OculusImperia]

And I love YOU, Imperial Citizen!

[@CharlesUrban]

Cry "Havoc!" and let slip...these guys. I feel awful for Angron. He was doomed from the start thanks to those stupid brain spikes.

[@absolute-focus]

Another masterpiece.

[@Alexandoas]

Just found your channel and my god are your videos fucking awesome, keep up the good work dude

[@OculusImperia]

Welcome aboard, and thanks for the support!

[@ArgionXII]

Magnificent!

[@markbrigandi7497]

I wish it was possible to leave more than one “like”. Thanks for another extremely well done video. These are fantastic! =][=

[@rosicroix777]

If you feel strongly about OI doing a great video you can allways scroll down among the comments & like those that agree w/your feelings as upvoting positive comments also helps get YT to raise the videos ranking

[@markbrigandi7497]

Percy Barbarossa Thanks, friend- didn’t know that! I certainly will do- =][=

[@elistarr8270]

Best legion

[@macrux152__8]

Goddamnit Angron. Getting your brain nails REPLICATED? Really? Just really?

[@libraryofleng7861]

macrux152 __ When approached for a comment on this decision, Angron replied "RRAAARGH MURDER SMASH DESTROY"

[@CharlesUrban]

He wasn't thinking straight. He had _nails in his brain._

[@TheCorrodedMan]

Library of Leng Sounds a little too violent for Angron answering a question. I imagine it would go a bit like this- “Bugger off”

[@philips.5563]

One wondered what tainted madness drove the high riders to their cultural choices.

[@Sliceofpi]

Song in Silence a bunch of people told them they didn't have to work and that they wouldn't be in trouble for hurting other people. The same thing that leads us to do horrible things to people right now.

[@JordonVirtue]

Money well spent.

[@OculusImperia]

[@splitjawjanitor5369]

The question was never how Angron could come to betray the Emperor, it was how he could have ever been loyal to Him at all.

[@KinoTechUSA69]

*ominous chugging of distorted guitar* WOOOOOOOORRRLLLLD EEEAAAAAATAARRR!!!!!!!!

[@kevindonkers8787]

Perfect.

[@TheProudOne]

I sign a petition for the exploration of the Mechanicum next, and the development that occured that would turn it into the Imperium's Adeptus Mechanicus!

[@mojotheaverage]

If the emperor had just sent Angron reinforcements, Angron probably wouldn't have turned out so badly

[@dfailsthemost]

It's crazy that he could show anyone mercy while under the effect of the butcher's nails.

[@firehazardentertainment8381]

If i had to field a CSM army, I'd want full World Eaters, maybe a few Khornate daemons. That, or Slaaneshi Noise Marines and demons, because they're cool.

[@Kossagubben]

Ayy another 1

[@cgavin1]

00:30 to 01:30 is simply beautiful writing dude. Respect! "And even the Lord of Lighting's own sons, could perish. The loss of one of his irreplaceable progeny, on a backwater world, under such conditions, was simply unacceptable." That's why the Big E is not Biggie. He has no honour.

[@chubbyninja89]

Very nice narration. Good job man. I do feel so sad for Angron. I mean, he had the potential to be a great tragic character. I was like 30k Spartacus for crying out loud. I mean you have to be of pretty strong and noble character to let a guy who was just trying to kill you live. I really do think that was some really stupid writing on GW's part to just make him an absolute bastard who would implant the Butcher's Nails into others.

[@AnIdiotsLantern]

First appearance of Oculus’s sign off! This is a historical document indeed

[@Zakiriel]

World Eaters, does not play well with others...

[@JeanLucCaptain]

Night Lord's Like to play with their food.

[@legionofthedamned157]

Thousand sons, Like to be talk to the enemy about HOW Fucking intelligent and superior they are compare to them

[@yourfriendlyneighborhoodpl9761]

@@legionofthedamned157 the death Guard........

[@TK199999]

As Voltaire once said, 'Governments need both shepherds and butchers.'

[@sieg5857]

I don’t understand why the emperor didn’t just destroy the army that Antron was fighting

[@richardculbertson2253]

Death guard next please

[@marmitch5056]

My second legion. Thanks

[@marmitch5056]

Love the Christian undertones as well

[@Sliceofpi]

I suppose you mean with the out of slavery thing? I think corax is a much better correlation.

[@marmitch5056]

Sliceofpi no the nature of mankind at the start. We like war and to kill each other. But a lot of archetype in 30j

[@Sliceofpi]

Robert Michell got ya

[@HoundDogBlue]

I believe Kharne said it best: “I AM THE EIGHT-FOLD PATH!”

[@exactinmidget92]

still waiting for my Legion, the Death Guard.

[@Duppyman695]

Let slip the Hounds of War .

[@laurawright719]

I need the background music. Can anyone find a link?

[@potatogeneral4072]

If I ever makes army it would definitely be a loyal world eaters chapter

[@Memento--Mori]

Iron Hands next!

[@STEFAN9484]

what means the last sentence you said : Ave Imperator , Gloria in Excelsis Tera ?

[@MrSwordJ]

Rough translation is: Praise the Emperor, Highest Glory to Earth

[@ezrolly898]

The Emperor/Imperium should've just put them on Ork duty and be done with them. The Heresy would have passed them by unnoticed.

[@spacewolfblackmane19]

Angron always gets shit on for being a slave and never conquering his home planet but really could any of the other primarchs have done better, when quite literally right out of the pod he gets attacked by some 10, 20 or more eldar prepared to kill him. Is massively weakened, to the point if being unable to fight. Gets one of the most unnessary prices of dark age level tech hammer and fused to his brain pretty much bleaching any and all pleasure, and emotional development out side of battle, and killing. And ONLY having an army of unstable gladiators with no option of recruitment save the odd freeing of untrained slaves. And then being surrounded by 7 or more full armies with far superior weapons, tech, and training. And THEN getting teleported away by your asshole father who by the way could have easily roffil stomped all that with I don't know THE ENTIRE LEGION OF ASTARTIES THAT CAME WITH HIM TO GET ANGRON. I'm sorry by that part always fucks with me. The Emperior is an asshole.

[@KahlGeier]

Simply look at Curze who had to grow up all by himself in goddamn Nostramo or Lion El Jonson who survived in the forests of Caliban while fighting with actual demons. Never forget that Angron was a primarch, no mere mortal, there surely was a way he could free himself, he simply failed. He also ruined the Warhounds completly and turned them from a blunt but effective fighting force into a bunch of bloodlusting lunatics. Don't get me wrong, i really like Angron and his Legion but you can't blame Big E on his failings. I guess he wanted Angron to see where his style of doing things will eventually lead.. or you're utterly right and Emps was just a big asshole.

[@spacewolfblackmane19]

Ivan Red ture you are right Curse did grow up alone on Nostromo and look what it did to both him and his legion, drove him haft mad and polluted his sons with the picopathic at best trash that the nobility scooped up and gave him. He pulled through terror and it would have never lasted, if he had the Nails implanted into his skull don't doubt that he wouldn't just try to rip them out killing himself in the process. The Lion it is hard to say how having a device that literally scrambles your mind every second of everyday with aching pain, until you eventually snap and kill something then it dumps LOADS of adrenalin and other pleasure inducing drugs straight into the mind. All the while preventing your superhuman healing from taking place as it digs ever further into the brain doing even more damage to the point where it threatened to kill even him. The Lion was always sketch as fuck to me. But even knowing thus the Emperor still gave this unstable as mother fucker a legion even after deeming him possible untreatable. But instead chose to just try to get as much use of him as he could and discard him later, ya sounds very assholeish to me

[@KahlGeier]

I completely agree with you that the butchers nails were the main factor that drove Angron into damnation, but he still decided to force his Legion to follow him there. That's why i actually prefer Curze, he knew Nostramo was corrupting the 8th from within and he somehow tried to correct it, of course in his own twisted way, until he realized there was nothing left so save. Curze's ultimate goal was justice and the only method he ever had the chance to learn was through fear and terror. It wasn't the Emperor that placed him on Nostramo, neither was it the Emperor that made Angron fight in a colosseum or drove the nails into his head. Of course he could have spent more time with both of them, helping them with their individual flaws but in the end he had way greater things to focus on. Let us also not forget that they are primarchs, they should have seen the error in their ways and if you look at Conrad, he actually did. That's why he asked Sanguinius to kill him and eventually let the assassin do so. He tried to kill the Night Haunter and save what was left of Konrad Curze, while justifying everything he'd ever done. Angron, at least in my opinion, never even tried to correct or even justify his way of doing things. Yes the butchers nails impaired Angrons reasoning but it wasn't fully gone. He could see the truth in Lorgars words as he warned him of the consequences of his actions during the shadow crusade but he still decided against it. Also, the Emperor wasn't their father, he was their master. I guess it hurt many of them but if fucking Guilliman can figure it out there is simply no excuse that the others didn't. I think it was even Guilliman that stated something like: "the Emperor cannot love a single soul, cause he loves humanity as a whole" I know the quotation isn't quiet right but i guess you can see what he meant by that. (sorry if i made any mistakes, english isn't my native language)

[@spacewolfblackmane19]

It's fine my auto correct isn't making speech any more easier for me anyways. Master, father, or what ever he may call himself The Emperior was a massive fool for using and then not censoring a broken tool. Curze for all his folly could still see reason the majority of the time when not about matters of justice. Angron is a broken tool that knows no other way, was not thought any other way except charge enemy kill enemy, and the nails allow me and my mortal warriors to do so even better why not use such device to make my legion do just that but even better. The Emperor knew this and yet did nothing, and only at the VERY last minuet did he send what might have possibly been the exact wrong legion to send, i mean i love the space wolves Leman Russ is my favorite loyalist primarch but his message and the way he delivered it never would have reached him. Remember aside from very rare moments of slightly less throbbing pain in his head could, or would he think clearly enough to make designations more complicated than find enemy, kill enemy. And in truth as his MASTER the emperor needed complete obedience and aside from telling Angron go over there and attack every man, woman, child, plant, fungi, bacteria, animal, and maybe just maybe mineral and metal that they can find. Angron did not do very much listing and instead of getting on that shit until he either found a way to fix his broken tool the least he could have done is have him taken out back and die of some "unforeseen" medical complications.

[@spacewolfblackmane19]

Bid "E" has a goal does he not? then why does he seem to purposely hand-string him self at every opportunity, talk about self defeating.

[@Mandatory.Testicular.Torsion]

My favorite legion :-)

[@OculusImperia]

Hope I could do them some justice.

[@hansstrudel9614]

Personally I like to imagine that Angron was actually intended to be something akin to Vulkan minus all the hugs and stuff. Mild mannered, compassionate, and just extremely timid compared to his brothers. Then It just so happened that Khorne was the one that chucked his test tube across the galaxy which perhaps left a taint on him and the gene seed. It would explain his failures, especially with the butcher’s nails it brings an extra layer of emotional pain as he does not want to be angry or hurt people for pointless reasons like an arena but the nails are far more convincing. Yes the nails do inhibit these kinds of thoughts but something made to work on baseline humans should not be nearly as potent on gigantic beasts like the primarchs. I don’t know, it’s an interesting idea but also really dumb and far fetched. It would just be nice to have a primarch land on a planet that is not the perfect place literally tailor made just because the Primarchs needed a to be raised and have explanations as to why they are who they are.

[@airplanemaster1]

Y'know, why didn't Big E send Angron's legion down to help the rebel army win the battle, instead of beaming him up? I can understand Angron not asking because pride and the butchers nails preventing higher thinking, but what about the Emperor? It would have been another conquering of a world for the Imperium, and Angron would get a better reunion with his legion.

[@MrSwordJ]

The Emperor already had a deal with the ruling elite of Nuceria for their compliance. I'm not even sure what E was asked to do in return for their compliance.

[@stevepalpatine2828]

The respect and loyalty of a Primarch is worth more than a world full of backwards High Rider shits. A single company of Warhouds sent to reinforce Angron would have been the more sensible option in the long run.

[@jirojhasuo2ndgrandcompany745]

Hes like spartacus... Only much more tragic.

[@axelNodvon2047]

Can we have a clue on what the next legion would be?

[@OculusImperia]

Gotta hand it to you for the good question.

[@skipspikebud]

WAAAGH!!!

[@namelessentity5851]

Gotta say, that was a HUGE dick move by the Emperor, in taking Angron from the only Family he ever had. And on top of it, perhaps worse was his disregard for what would happen to his "Son's" ( can't call him 'your Son' when you are a deadbeat ) Comrades in arms. Surely the golden dickhead could have intervened, and even took Angron's Companions with them. And people wonder why I favor Chaos, specifically Nurgle. I know for a fact that Nurgle will always help his children.

[@nostradamusofgames5508]

so im guessing angrons origin story of being a gladiator and leading a revolt with fellow gladiators is inspired by spartacus?

[@Legitpenguins99]

Apparently in the newer lore Angron was only implanted with the butchers nails after refusing to kill his adoptive father

[@augiechiavuzzi4907]

Honestly I don't think the emperor needed the Primarchs as badly as he said he did. but with the loss of the 2 and 11 he couldn't afford to lose another one and wipe their legion since every legion had a specific role to play

[@feralprocessor9853]

Right off the bat, Astartes in pre-herasy Warhound design?

[@016Roi]

Emperor protects!

[@MarqFJA87]

Angron's history here seems to be quite out of date, especially when it comes to the timing of Angron's implantation with the Butcher's Nails. According to what I gathered from second-hand sources, the current lore is that he was not implanted with the Nails until several years into his "career" as a gladiator, specifically right before pitting him before his foster father (who is not even alluded to in this record).

[@arbeione]

I think the Emperor kept the 12th in reserve because he knew there would be harder battles to come once Terra was unified. He needed his strongest warriors for what was to come...

[@crusadingtemplar]

Or that if he didn't he wouldn't have an empire on terra to command Bones are hard to make into soldiers and ash and rubble can produce no weapons

[@arbeione]

@@crusadingtemplar the Thunder Warriors made sure of that. It was already hell hole after the indication wars. But I guess we’ll never know, until it’s confirmed in lore.

[@crusadingtemplar]

@arbeione you probably are correct there but maybe just not as much as the warhounds He , was always ready to throw the thunder warriors into the fray, where as He , held the hounds in check Maybe they where(even by unification standards) just a bit TOO much.....

[@arbeione]

@@crusadingtemplar yeah, you’re right, I think the Warhounds/World eaters are the closest thing we have to the Thunder Warriors