Xing Yi V.S. Ba Gua: Counter Each Other----Internal Kung Fu

[@HaiYangChannel]

please stop arguing here, it is not nice to do this. People could spend more time talking about techniques instead of politics and nonsense. Thank you for your understanding and cooperation. Hai Yang

[@bigfatdick5000]

These students are really lucky to have an authentic teacher that knows *all* 3 of the internal arts at once. Best of all, he teaches the self defence application of these arts. Only wish someone like him is here in Australia.. :(

[@BreakfastShark]

the Beng fist at 1:14 is straightup beautiful, I keep on rewinding to that part to watch it over and over. It's an excellent demonstration of internal power, transferring the body's momentum from the rear leg all the way to the striking hand in a split second. This sifu has really good kungfu, the students are lucky to study under him.

[@noxilusglacius]

@unjedi7 I would just like to thank you for making the most intelligent comment I've ever read. It's really nice to see that there are some people out there that have a proper understanding of martial arts, instead of everyone seeing something they haven;t before and saying "you suck bleep bleep!" or "That technique is crap/wrong" so thank you unjedi7. Also great looking teaching btw!! Very lucky students to work with someone so knowledgeable

[@davidmartinez9804]

I think the teacher can beat up all three of them at the same time while smoking a cigarette, he is that good. Inspiring to see somebody reach such a high level especially while still being humble.

[@HECTORARTUROA]

David Martinez something like this?: kzbin.info/www/bejne/f5zMmpeVj5l9eNE

[@Jonnyeth]

This teacher is very talented and these students are incredibly lucky to have him. My own Taiji Sifu knows Taijiquan and Baguazhang. This teacher shows the same level of skill, it's phenominal!

[@MrCaptainswank]

the true warrior knows that only through practicing all styles, especially those which make them most uncomfortable can they learn the universal truth. that when you become comfortable with every aspect of what you are doing, style is no longer important. example: gymnasts out perform most athletes at their chosen sport. because they know how to move.

[@blockmasterscott]

I like how the teacher is actively demonstrating and participating. That's actually kinda rare.

[@temu09]

Excellent application and counter. Xingyi and Bagua compliment each other so well.

[@akaibake7999]

Thanks a lot for upload this vídeo Muchas gracais por subir este video

[@KensaiZen]

this is excellent stuff. it shows how to counter a counter. most martial arts instructions given these days are to try to finish your opponent with the first counter blow, which ofcourse doesnt work well against others who knows how to fight. much respect /bow

[@dannysees]

This is a good teacher who has a lot of patience for the students. That group had so little co-ordination and seem a little hard-headed - definitely kudos to the Sifu.

[@eutheria]

@PrsFenderJackson1980 Ba Gua is the loopy curly circular one. Hsing Yi is the more spear-like straight forward offensive looking one. There is a great clip on youtube from The One of two different Jet Li's practicing, one doing Ba Gua and one Hsing Yi. In that clip it is very obvious which is which.

[@Moonelf82]

This man knows what he is doing

[@zachariahz]

I can't believe people are nit picking these videos. While the the students may be of varying levels clearly what's being taught is very good and the instructor is quite obviously a pretty high level practitioner.

[@Bastion83]

with all due resepect to other styles, ive seen kung fu in several forms, in action, karate, hapkido etc are all beautiful forms and all have a legitimate place in the martial world. Those who think kung fu does not, simply have not seen true kung fu. This does not mean to insult those people, only to make them aware of what they have not been able to find. trust me its out there.

[@entertaichi]

Thanks for sharing!

[@HaiYangChannel]

Thanks for watching!

[@Juan0003]

Don't I know it!!! LOL!!! His name is Yang Hai, he is the author of these videos and he who posts them. You can find info on him at his web site in the description. Thanks for the comments. J

[@stfnvw]

This is great stuff, thanks for posting !

[@technonaut]

On the leg trap they do around 3:00, we do leg traps in Hapkido but I was taught that you want to move closer in because if you catch it out at the foot, you're encountering the maximum force. Closer in = less of the kick's energy. I'm curious on a Xing Yi practioner's reaction.

[@SwamiOrchestra]

You are very inspiring to me. Thx for showing your arts.

[@Th0ughtf0rce]

@ Master Hai Yang: Have you published any book on the subject? i mean cross training of ba gua and hsing-i.

[@Nikolas100o10oao]

@Donnie Darko i said forerunner. jkd is a martial art mma is a sport. i meant that he came up with idea to crosstrain.

[@jacobharris954]

No he didn't. It was a common idea in China before would study the three internal styles bagua, xinyi and taiji. So seeing that idea he took the west and championed it

[@lordtains]

from 6:00 it gets amazing. That application is just beatiful

[@HaiYangChannel]

i am the little instructor there. i like both of these styles, so i do not know which style i am more rooted in. is it important?

[@Antraeus]

They're very different so surely people tend to lean towards one or the other. So one is likely to be more effective than the other as well. Unless, as in your case, you're a master and balance the two equally. :)

[@warfox777]

Hai yang you are the instructor? Excellent technique. Which style are you more rooted in, Bagua or Xingyi? I like the leg counter.

[@Juan0003]

I understand what you are saying and agree to some point. I'm merely pointing out that in that context, that student wasn't putting the emphasis on his kicks. I'm the guy WITH glasses by the way. J

[@taoistul]

Great tehnic man.....You are luky to have such a master!!!Practice hard!!!!

[@Aheyne]

Wow you guys are lucky -- your teacher knows his stuff!

[@MechPhantom]

All martail arts are good,never there is a best style. Its totally up to the person he himslef. And if he wins or lose,its never the style that wins or lose,its he himself again. His effort and hardwork paid off thats all nothing more. Even the "best" can and will lose 1 day,e.g. the shaolin monks. Its anybodies game

[@RonnySayfan]

@technonaut31337 - since it's a front kick, moving circularly to the side nullifies all the force and you get excellent leverage by intercepting the foot (notice that while wraping the foot, you should apply pressure to the back of the knee with your shoulder - 3:03) so, actually you do move closer in, but you begin on the outer range,

[@theMAG101]

Remember this is one video from one teacher. These styles are not nearly as defensive as they're often portrayed. And it's usually considered favorable to take a hit or two in order to get into a position to control/destroy the opponent's center, provided those hits aren't to vital areas (which generally remain covered during the execution of a technique). Again, I'm speaking generally and can only speak from my experience.

[@NoFear4821]

no need for excessive power, they are both internal styles. angles, footwork, leverage and the mechanics of the body are used rather than brute strength like external martial arts

[@Piklethedoodad]

It seems like a rapid-striking system such as American Kenpo would give this system a little bit of difficulty, since blocks aren't stressed as much as redirects. A kenpoist doesn't really follow through on strikes like a boxer would. It's a lot harder to redirect a backfist than a right cross, but that's just my opinion.

[@Sythra]

Yeah, chin na uses closed arms and rotation points to cause a lot of pain. very effective in close quarters.

[@WarriorBoy]

This is very cool, thank you.

[@Aheyne]

Agreed - more like not easy at all.

[@lonegroable]

i like it a lot, so energetic and good technique

[@DJFistOfCurry]

sorry, this is coming from a Tai Chi Praying Mantis/Wing Chun practitioner... Which one is Xing Yi and which one is Ba Gua? Please reply and thanks!

[@steve0281]

In essence you are correct, but not all systems are created equal. After forty years of doing external and twenty doing internal, I am of the opinion that the internal systems give one a better platform to fight from.

[@Bloodydice45]

that old master could easily kick all his students asses. His moment, timing and technique are on a different level

[@dboyzero]

shield and sword are one, very nice.

[@warfox777]

No it is not important. I was only curious. However I know that bagua has thousands of moves. It would be to overwhelming for me to do both thoroughly.

[@kreesu]

god i wish a teacher like that lived in my city...

[@Juan0003]

Thank you for the comment! But, to make sure, I hope you're not thinking I'm the teacher! I'm only the "other" guy in the kicking demo. J

[@Juan0003]

Dude, we're in Montreal, CANADA!!!

[@darthaardvark]

this is a guy who knows his internal styles, effectively

[@Juan0003]

I don't believe it has anything to do with the style. Much more with how it is trained. The styles you mention contain freestyle sparring, it is the only way to really learn to apply the techniques in the style. IMHO. Juan

[@couldronofcats]

Don't you love how you just said "I think"

[@cellarjudge]

GOOD !!!

[@IMakeFlash]

The cleverest way to fight with others is using less force to counter a stronger force. That's what the Tai Chi is all about~ Fight hard with hard is stupid~ And that what Koreans and Japanese always do~

[@cfG21]

my other friend who i sparred used muay boran. btw

[@Juan0003]

What makes you believe that this is the only way we train? What you see here is a FEW applications of a FEW concepts... not the full curriculum. Besides, the video is call Xingyi vs. BAGUA, not vs. American Kempo, so your comment seem funny.

[@Juan0003]

A lot of people have things to prove while staying anonymous. ¬_¬

[@b1hawaiian]

good video, nice examples. its funny how some of the responses seem to generalize the entire art form based on a 7min 50sec video, but i'm sure they know what they're talking about. lol

[@IMakeFlash]

What kind of prize? Miss Ghost~

[@michael60716]

thats right

[@Juan0003]

You do understand that these were demonstrations, right?

[@couldronofcats]

I'm lucky my teacher came from taiwan to america and is 3rd generation from Ip man!!

[@Tianshanwarrior]

is he teaching?

[@steve0281]

Gee! Forty years isn't long enough?

[@Nikolas100o10oao]

You are wrongon the last point. Bruce Lee was a brilliant martial artit and invented jeet kune do which the forerunnerof modern mma.

[@cfG21]

funny how i beat to greco roman wrestlers (who are my good friends) using mantis,taji, and hung.i think people talk to much online.

[@Juan0003]

Are you a boxer ilvalla75?

[@smallkiss]

no... go to HK or Taiwan...

[@Juan0003]

Japanese are considered the ultimate warriors by... the japanese themselves. Where do you get these ideas?

[@darthaardvark]

I wouldn't say it's false my friend ;)

[@IMakeFlash]

Do you think wushu is useful? You can try fighting with Jet Lee, Jackie Chan, or any other kungfu masters who praticed Chinese kung fu. CPC might destroy a lot, it could not destroy all. And don't forget, Hongkong, Macau, and Republic of China did not suffer from the cultural revolution.

[@Redshift489]

I don't understand.... Shen Diao Xia Lu is a fiction wuxia book.

[@cincin75ytb]

Yan Xin Qi Gong is not much relation with Kung-Fu. This kind of Qi-Gong is called be "Jing-Gong", means Still Practice, and Qing Gong of Kung-Fu is called be "Dong-Gong", means Moving Practice. Stricktly, I'd rather say Yan Xin Qi Gong is a kind a religion, and just as you know, as a kind of religion, fewer or more, there are always lies in it. So, no recommend.

[@777zhimei]

高手！

[@Juan0003]

a lot can be done and undone watching videos. you haven't answered the question. are you a boxer?

[@Purwapada]

. shutup you spak

[@Juan0003]

@lnoagkois Takes one to know one, I guess. lol.

[@IMakeFlash]

Chinese has been in war for 4,000 years~ By the way, warrior society is nutter and should disappear on the earth~

[@Juan0003]

Wonderful! Too bad that in 15 years, none of your teachers taught you how to spell it right.