The Most Hated Quest in the Witcher 3. Based on 9 years of comments.

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xLetalis

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@luisemoralesfalcon4716
@luisemoralesfalcon4716 5 ай бұрын
Imagine a king dying and then no one on the map mentions said death.
@Houssine_11
@Houssine_11 5 ай бұрын
If i remember well, I have listened to some people talking about it, like in Oxenfurt.
@pyrrhus3445
@pyrrhus3445 5 ай бұрын
Exactly also in nilfgaard triumph ending redanian banners still hang over novigrad and oxnfurt like nothing changed
@luisemoralesfalcon4716
@luisemoralesfalcon4716 5 ай бұрын
@@pyrrhus3445 yep, pretty much.
@luisemoralesfalcon4716
@luisemoralesfalcon4716 5 ай бұрын
@@Houssine_11 ah, I guess I need to verify.
@Houssine_11
@Houssine_11 5 ай бұрын
@@pyrrhus3445 euhhhh, for that, it is normal because when you finish the game, it tells you that everything will be like before the last quest of the game.
@Fishingrod2538
@Fishingrod2538 5 ай бұрын
This quest is completely lore accurate considering the fact that djikstra had a chicken sandwich in his pocket
@watermelon9801
@watermelon9801 5 ай бұрын
Mans gotta eat, He is fat too
@joehanz9217
@joehanz9217 5 ай бұрын
I hope he's not a Doppler
@nickshng
@nickshng 5 ай бұрын
The moment I saw there was a sandwich in djikstra’pocket I ATE it😅
@A7md-r9j
@A7md-r9j 5 ай бұрын
@@nickshngthe taste of victory
@dotnetforever
@dotnetforever 5 ай бұрын
I love this sandwiches in elvens undergrounds. No-one been here for 1000 years.... oh!fresh tomato here
@reesespieces8173
@reesespieces8173 5 ай бұрын
The loyalty to always inject the "lesbomancy" scene always gives me a good chuckle lol
@xLetalis
@xLetalis 5 ай бұрын
@jackler4020
@jackler4020 5 ай бұрын
Not to mention 1:00. Wouldn't be an xLetalis vid without this mention XD
@CST1992
@CST1992 3 ай бұрын
@@jackler4020 "If we look at the BROADER picture...."
@konferansjer
@konferansjer 5 ай бұрын
The quest istself is not bad at all. The idea of Dijkstra betraying his fellow conspirators also works well. The only thing that sucks is Dijkstra being dumb enough to just announce "now i am going to kill you, geralt please let your friends die".
@matro2
@matro2 5 ай бұрын
Dijkstra may have betrayed his fellow conspirators but he was nothing but true to Redania.
@redshirt49
@redshirt49 5 ай бұрын
@@matro2 Well, he was quite right in pointing out that the "deal" they made with Emhyr is terrible even if he were to honor it (which the Emperor has no reason to do). It's an especially terrible deal for Dijkstra, since Redania does not benefit from it even in the slightest. How Thaler (a fellow loyalist and spy) missed this rather obvious point is beyond me.
@planescaped
@planescaped 5 ай бұрын
There is no situation where it would ever make sense for Geralt to do that, and is one of the dumbest non-choices I have ever seen in a game.
@dorongrossman-naples9207
@dorongrossman-naples9207 5 ай бұрын
Also the part where Dijkstra himself tries to fight Geralt instead of letting his henchmen do it.
@bakters
@bakters 5 ай бұрын
@@redshirt49 Thaler is a loyalist to himself. Roach is not much better. A little bit better, but not by much.
@_MaZTeR_
@_MaZTeR_ 5 ай бұрын
The Radovid questiline obviously went to the same chopping block where Iorveth and Saskia went
@planescaped
@planescaped 5 ай бұрын
Sadly yeah. I wish we'd gotten DLC for The Witcher 3 that dealt with the loose plot threads from The Witcher 2. At least we got closure for Letho if you transferred a save where he survived. Which tells me they originally intended to do a lot more but had to cut it.
@moonknightish
@moonknightish 5 ай бұрын
Saskia was never gonna be in The Witcher 3 at any point
@ViApp0
@ViApp0 5 ай бұрын
People make fun of how the Mass Effect completely ruined the ending, but at least it tracked and accounted for most minor flags and quest outcomes throughout the series (except the entire Council deal at the end of ME1 I guess). Here you can marry both Adda and Anais to Radovid without him ever acknowledging that ¯\_(ツ)_/¯.
@ivandankob7112
@ivandankob7112 5 ай бұрын
@@planescapedwell, they produced a whole ass Toussaint region as dlc, which was good, but no one asked for it, instead they could do some expansion of those Witcher 2 plot lines that you mentioned
@ThomB1031
@ThomB1031 5 ай бұрын
​@@ViApp0 i mean yes, the flags were acknowledged... but they were also made irrelevant. At the same time mass effect 3 multiplayer got me through the employment gaps of the recession... so it had its pluses as well.
@michaelgates9478
@michaelgates9478 5 ай бұрын
Bloody Baron mentions that he doesn’t know what happened to Natalis.
@michalbrnoliak5992
@michalbrnoliak5992 5 ай бұрын
Does really Bloody Baron mention him? I know that Roche mentions him and that his army got absolutely obliterated by the Nilfgaardians but that's all about him
@_koeriwurst9959
@_koeriwurst9959 5 ай бұрын
In my mind, the "Vakmeth"-Quote the writers have Dijkstra say right before he kills himself is a comment/hint about them lacking the time and resources to resolve the mess that they have gotten into with this quest before the game releases. Like, "if we can't do it right, let's at least do it quickly". Fits with the lines actual meaning in Macbeths mouth and makes it easier for me to accept what happens when he's done with his little speech...
@planescaped
@planescaped 5 ай бұрын
Ya know... you're probably right.
@shivanSpS
@shivanSpS 5 ай бұрын
This is my headcanon now.
@Arkenway
@Arkenway 5 ай бұрын
What's funny is that the Witcher universe apparently has two Macbeth counterparts : Vakmeth in Dijkstra's quest and Macveth in the Crones bestiary entry
@binjoofficial
@binjoofficial 2 ай бұрын
don't think so tbh, it's just what Macbeth says in the play when he finally gets talked into murdering the king by his demon wife, the cowardly and low kingslaying being the connection that makes this reference work
@SharkVaderYT
@SharkVaderYT 5 ай бұрын
The game devs once said that if Nilfgaard wins the war and Temeria becomes a vassal state then Anais becomes its queen.
@dragonknightleader1
@dragonknightleader1 5 ай бұрын
That doesn't make sense though considering her custody is probably with Ravovid if at all and more likely no one knows where she is. The Temerian nobility fall apart quickly without leadership, so they're a non-entity after White Orchard.
@SorcererKing94
@SorcererKing94 5 ай бұрын
@@dragonknightleader1 If you rescue Triss in TW2(which I think the devs take that as the canon route) then Roche rescues Anais by himself and is declared an outlaw by Redania and Temeria. So it is plausible, that Anais is alive and well by the events of TW3 and out of Radovid's hands, and will be crowned queen once Nilfgaard wins the war.
@GutterTurtle
@GutterTurtle 5 ай бұрын
​@@SorcererKing94 That's probably cannon and true, cdprojekt would never miss the chance to push another strong and empowered queen on their games. She probably will show on the Witcher 4.
@spenceramey406
@spenceramey406 5 ай бұрын
@@GutterTurtle I mean, we Ciri as empress of the empire, Creys an Craite becoming empress of Skellege & Anais becoming a Queen vassal of Temeria like Anna Henrietta is to Toussaint. I mean, you can’t be that. The whole world in the Witcher game universe will undergo some peace, prosperity & tranquility.
@TheGreatLordDIO
@TheGreatLordDIO 5 ай бұрын
It's still a dumb plan, since being vassal is just an illusion of freedom because they got nilfgaard all around them. Temeria will have to obey Nilfgaard anyway, the only thing this deal provides is that they can keep their own flags, which is such a childish view on the sovereignty
@Labargoth
@Labargoth 5 ай бұрын
Even funnier than Anais being erased by Witcher 3, the possible events of Witcher 1 are also already erased by both Witcher 2 and 3. If you cure Princess Adda of her Striga curse as opposed to just killing her, she will be engaged to Radovid. In the beginning of Witcher 2 Foltest himself comments on this saying that Adda is essentially disinherited and she and her children won't get Temeria, because the Temerian nobles would never accept Temeria being inherited by Adda's and Radovid's children. But then near the end of Witcher 2 apparently the Temerian nobles no longer care and you can engage Radovid to Anais, completely ignoring that he's already engaged / married to Adda at this point.
@Hellion73
@Hellion73 5 ай бұрын
Think it's worst for Thaler, cos even if he was killed by De Wett in the the W1, he still appears in 3🤷‍♂️
@xLetalis
@xLetalis 5 ай бұрын
all good points :)
@ifyoulookclosely6863
@ifyoulookclosely6863 5 ай бұрын
If Adda is alive then you don't engage Radovid to Anais. Radovid says that once Anais comes to age he will give her Temeria but Roche speculates that at that point Radovid will probably get rid of Adda and marry Anais. Devs also confirmed that if Adda is alive she is in Tretogor as a queen in TW3.
@MrSagaTeller
@MrSagaTeller 5 ай бұрын
@@ifyoulookclosely6863 please give links on that, I'd like to read more.
@orestesbastos
@orestesbastos 5 ай бұрын
Thank you, I was looking for this one.
@xLetalis
@xLetalis 5 ай бұрын
Finally got around to making this video
@Setiweb
@Setiweb 5 ай бұрын
It's a universal constant. There's always one more video from xLetalis.
@ammaristanbilly9236
@ammaristanbilly9236 5 ай бұрын
I believe Anais is mentioned at the earlier part of the game when Geralt tells Morvran Voorhis what happened in the witcher 2.
@GamingWife42
@GamingWife42 5 ай бұрын
It's always a pleasure to get a video from you!
@Szef4715
@Szef4715 5 ай бұрын
Please it's Vernon Roche (translate from french to pronoun accurately) not Vernon Roach
@IlerienPhoenix
@IlerienPhoenix 5 ай бұрын
I didn't know you're Bulgarian! It's quite a welcome surprise. :)
@Nathan_Coley
@Nathan_Coley 5 ай бұрын
Bloody Baron mentions Natalis but mainly to say "his whereabouts are unknown" during the toast with Geralt.
@erinH942
@erinH942 5 ай бұрын
I’ve wondered before if Philippa was the cause of Dijkstra’s sudden change at the end of the quest. He may have intended to follow through just as planned but I wouldn’t be surprised if she convinced him to kill everyone else (except Geralt who she knew she couldn’t afford to lose) and take over Redania. It would be a set-up that would benefit her, leaving her a place to go with a ruler who she could probably convince to help her if things didn’t work out for her in Nilfgaard and if things did work out, someone she could influence to some degree at the negotiating table. Great video!
@Vandelgard
@Vandelgard 5 ай бұрын
Radovid is with Adda. She's cut content and was supposed to be funding Triss and the mages escape against Radovid. We only got a lead that she exists cause of the chess pawns Radovid plays with. Edit: Shove Dijkstra forcefully, my beloved
@yavoth5850
@yavoth5850 5 ай бұрын
Finally someone sharing my view that Roche also must have completely lost his mind for that questline to develop as it does!
@anvos658
@anvos658 4 ай бұрын
He really did since even if you didn't save Anais if Ada is on the throne as Queen of Redania and Anais' Half Brother was spared the best hope for Temaria is Redania and getting himself and Natllis appointed Co-Regent until Anais can take the throne.
@Sinloud
@Sinloud 5 ай бұрын
The guys telling you it's the russian covers while knowing neither russian nor bulgarian is stupidly hilarious, ignorance in its purest form
@gohu11
@gohu11 5 ай бұрын
Славяне никогда не научится жить дружно 😒 Slavs are never going to live like friends 😒
@gergoretvari6373
@gergoretvari6373 5 ай бұрын
i can't really blame them. I'm not skilled at Russian nor at Bulgarian so to me they both look kind of similar. Not saying it as an insult just an objective fact. But complaining about not using the polish cover is just ridiculous.
@nvelsen1975
@nvelsen1975 5 ай бұрын
A lot of people believe that cyrillic script = Russian. They're simply not aware some other languages also use that method of writing.
@mastercalabaster9824
@mastercalabaster9824 5 ай бұрын
I think they could be getting mad precisely because he is NOT showing the Polish covers. For some Poles, in every video about the Witcher there should be a periodic reminder that "THE BOOKS AND GAMES ARE POLISH LOOK WE CAN MAKE SOMETHING GOOD". But it's ok, I am Polish, I can say we are stupid.
@IlerienPhoenix
@IlerienPhoenix 5 ай бұрын
I speak both Russian and Bulgarian, and Bulgarian is the only national Slavic language that doesn't have any characters in its alphabet not present in Russian alphabet, so if one has understanding of neither beyond the alphabets, this is a likely mistake to make. And some Poles loathe everything Russian indiscriminately these days, so the moment some text vaguely resembling Russian appears on screen, these people become alight with hatred.
@jcorbett9620
@jcorbett9620 5 ай бұрын
Having only played The Witcher 3 once (gasp!) and not touched any of the previous games, so therefore not being involved maybe as deeply as I could be, the biggest issue I had with this quest is the final choice. No matter which choice gave the better 'ending', all I could think of was that when asked for help. all Djkstra did was offer me money to assist in defending Kaer Morhen, whereas Vess and Roche both turned up in person to risk their lives against the Wild Hunt and I couldn't betray that. Maybe too simplistic, since I know that most choices inTW3 are meant to be morally grey, not black and white, but that was my personal feelings on the subject.
@2Ten1Ryu
@2Ten1Ryu 5 ай бұрын
I completely agree. I could never betray them. they deserved better.
@KokosNaSnehu2
@KokosNaSnehu2 4 ай бұрын
My thoughts exactly. Only played Witcher 3 so I don´t really care for Roche or Ves altough Thaler is cool. I would be able to sacrifice them for the greater good but the fact they went to pretty much a suicidal battle by your side... Backstabbing them would just be too evil. Djikstra didn´t even give me the coin the swine.
@Deorman
@Deorman 5 ай бұрын
A simple thing that would've make this end more believable is if Dikjstra had more aces up his sleeve in case Gerald opposed him, He could've hired another Witcher as an assassin, mage something to make the fight harder and make him legitimately believe he could've bested Gerald if need be. It woudl've also enhanced the fight considirably. I don't remember clearly but I think maybe the blood Baron mention Natalis as well in Witcher 3. I loved Radovid in Witcher I and II, he was Ruthles but he wasn't that bad, he was somewhat like a young Foltest, I think the narrative is the war make him bitter and sinister , a shadow of his former self. My biggest disapointment with Reason of State, is that we have to side with Niilfgard to save our friends, if Dikjstra could manage to win once Radovid was out of the way, I think Roche coudl also have, Sacrificing the north is a hard pill to swallow, BUt that said, Disapointment is not always something bad to accept (if it's done correctly) it can remind you that in the end , you're only a witcher and you can't always change the world to have everything you want.
@alanstriker_0984
@alanstriker_0984 5 ай бұрын
Personally the only problem i have with Radovid's assasination is the lack of detail in the quest compared to the numerous others. Besides i feel that it was rushed a little
@moonknightish
@moonknightish 5 ай бұрын
It was part of a bigger story that involved multiple quests. Most of these quests were cut in late 2014 and CDPR reworked Reasons of State to make sense without them...but as we see the result was quite poor
@Kakamil55
@Kakamil55 5 ай бұрын
@@moonknightish What's the source? Where can i find the info about those quests? Or even about the cuts?
@yavoth5850
@yavoth5850 5 ай бұрын
It's all gossip, hearsay and speculation unfortunately, so highly unlikely we will ever get more detail
@moonknightish
@moonknightish 5 ай бұрын
@@yavoth5850 We have hard proof of the existance of these quests, but I can't say more. I can point you to something small related to that. Go to the latest REDkit tutorial about NPC entities and stop at the 11.50 minute mark. You will see the file of an NPC with a familiar name that was cut and had to appear in some of these quests
@moonknightish
@moonknightish 5 ай бұрын
@@Kakamil55 The Cutting Room Floor, it's a website. Also different reddit posts. There are also solid proofs, like assets and journal entries, but on that I can't say more
@diyeana
@diyeana 5 ай бұрын
I loved this quest mostly because it involved a hard decision to make: assassinating Radovid. Unfortunately, he had to go for the good of the people, plus those Geralt loved. I'm also fiercely loyal to Roche, so I'll help him with anything. I wasn't surprised when Dijkstra betrayed everyone, but I was astonished at how he did it. I would have expected that he would wait for Geralt to leave, but then something pulls Geralt back in time to choose a side, perhaps without knowing what's happening until it's all over. I wish we had a choice to leave Dijkstra alive with his other leg broken.
@Cancoillotteman
@Cancoillotteman 18 сағат бұрын
Or even get some real casulties, with everyone but Roche killed in the initial ambush and Roche catches up with Geralt for backup, shortly behind Dijkstra and his thugs, making more sense by that point he would ask Geralt to stay out of it.
@IceyBoy47
@IceyBoy47 5 ай бұрын
I could be completely wrong here but if Iorveth wasnt scrapped from withcer 3 wasnt he was supposed to play a part in this quest? I can imagine the decision would be harder to make if Dijkstra had Iorveth on his side as well.
@Vandelgard
@Vandelgard 5 ай бұрын
There was a whole questline of things being cut and a completely different version of hearts of stone.
@dragonknightleader1
@dragonknightleader1 5 ай бұрын
Would have been neat if Iorveth was the one assigned to help find Whoreson and the quests play out with him there.
@Hyster1aMcR
@Hyster1aMcR 5 ай бұрын
The quest i hate the most is the Isle Of Mist quest and Gaspard. Were supposed to be in a hurry to get Ciri and take her to Kaer Morhen. Then you get to the Isle Of Mist and for some reason have to deal with a sleepy dwarf. Geralt shouldve and most likely inreality wouldve used Aard to break the door down so he could get to Ciri ASAP.
@oliver.n278
@oliver.n278 5 ай бұрын
This would be so great fix it. I really hope this can be done. I really would like to get rid of the dwarves entirely, to have this isle abandoned. It doesnt make any sense to have dwarves there to begin with. Just Ciri in the hut, hidden by Avalach
@Hyster1aMcR
@Hyster1aMcR 5 ай бұрын
@@oliver.n278 exactly the dwarves serve zero purpose and add nothing to story
@2Ten1Ryu
@2Ten1Ryu 5 ай бұрын
True. It just kinda ruins the whole atmosphere.. also the other dwarf just breaking his neck and dying... just weird.
@Hyster1aMcR
@Hyster1aMcR 5 ай бұрын
@2Ten1Ryu I'm guessing they done it to try add a bit of light hearted funny to an otherwise doom and gloom quest. Personally I think it should be doom and gloom with a string sense of jeopardy and if you take too long on the Isle the wild hunt should start showing up to add to the we need to hurry factor
@michalbrnoliak5992
@michalbrnoliak5992 5 ай бұрын
@@2Ten1Ryu that atleast was fucking hilarious.. the sleepy one was funny but it went for a bit long
@thomasfranz6467
@thomasfranz6467 5 ай бұрын
I also love how Radovid in Witcher 1 (and 2) is actually a pretty nice guy lol. Though him losing his mind is in agreement with the books, it's just weird that it basically happened out of nowhere, or rather he should already have been mad in the first games, as his trauma happened in his childhood (and I'd assume his hatred for magic with it). And I'm pretty sure the Bloody Baron mentions that John Natalis is dead, so I guess he died in that battle. It's very sad to see what could have been, but I guess developing a game like Witcher 3 with multiple different starting points was kind of a stretch... But luckily now, mods can fix everything (please add Yeavinn)!
@khirman1
@khirman1 5 ай бұрын
It could have been that Radovid was always insane and just better at hiding it initially.
@judostar11
@judostar11 5 ай бұрын
I love Reasons of State but I also agree with the detractors about its problems. Dijkstra's betrayal makes zero sense since he was your ally and it's uncharacteristic of him. Even if he did plan on betraying you, where was him leading us into a deadly trap? The guy is supposed to be mastermind and he should know that he's incredibly outmatched.
@dragonknightleader1
@dragonknightleader1 5 ай бұрын
Yeah, it would have made more sense if Dijkstra was able to make a fourth of the city outright hostile to you and have the city guard go after you instead of just relying on his own thugs.
@Bocchi-the-Rock_
@Bocchi-the-Rock_ 5 ай бұрын
The thing you're forgetting here is that Dijkstra is greedy as fuck and power hungry, along with absolutely still loving Phillipa, so he has the chance for him to truly be in power, have enough money that what he's been the whole game will seem like a hobo by comparison, and gets to bang the owl with killer tits Even if he believed there was much risk, NOTHING outweighs all of that as a reward, not even Geralt, who fucking *crippled* him, he shattered his leg, a lot of people who talk about this stuff seem to not realize just how fucked up it was, even though Geralt had good reason when it happened. Every day from that point on was *agony* thanks to Geralt. Just because Geralt isn't the biggest asshole in the world doesn't mean Dijkstra would shed a tear over him taking a dirt nap He's a spy, a torturer, someone who suckled duplicity from his mother instead of milk. Seriously, if you think Dijkstra is a *steadfast* ally of Geralt's by any means, you don't understand the backstory and probably just played this game and were like "Nooo he is fren" he is not fren, he's an on and off again enemy who has his own motivations and goals, and ALWAYS has So, frankly, bullshit. You never understood who the big D was Oh, p.s. even the scenes with Triss make more sense if you remember that Dijkstra is quite the romantic, he would write Phillipa love poems lol. Dijkstra will do what he wants, and that includes trying to play matchmaker if he can, he *loves* love itself
@LordofBroccoli
@LordofBroccoli 5 ай бұрын
The lack of continuity between the Witcher games is its biggest flaw. Adda doesn't matter even if you saved her, Anais doesn't matter, Iorveth doesn't matter, John Natalis doesn't matter, Saskia, etc etc. For as much as people hate the ending with Djikstra, at least he ha a solid presence in the game up until the end. He wasn't erased like everyone else. CDPR is great at writing individual entries just not any kind of continuity.
@TomssP642
@TomssP642 5 ай бұрын
Yes. Even if unsure whether you make another game or not, having multiple endings and a load of smaller plots also ending in multiple ways, and then just basically throwing them all out in favor of a "canon" version that's rather cliche and uninspired - Is NOT the way to go
@eldara3
@eldara3 5 ай бұрын
@@TomssP642 I disagree - when writing a follow-up to a story that might have ended in several completely different ways, you're going to *have* to decide on a canon outcome of previous events, or you'll end up writing completely different stories, which, if you try to connect them to each other, are invariably going to feel just as hamfisted as not addressing the alternative outcomes at all. In this case, it's exacerbated by the fact that not everyone is going to have played Witchers 1&2 (I hadn't, for example, when I bought the third game), but you still have to make it accessible to those people, too. I do agree that the lack of canon characters/events was occasionally pretty egregious, but CDPR deciding on a canon outcome of events of Witcher 2 I can't really blame them for.
@Phengophobia
@Phengophobia 5 ай бұрын
човек, ти си българин>!>!??! Не знам как съм го пропуснала, следя ти видеата от супер дълго време и много се радвам за успеха ти, браво!
@Misclickt
@Misclickt 5 ай бұрын
I still think CDPR should've made a quest for Iorveth in the Next-Gen update instead of the 'In the Eternal Fire's Shadow' quest. Not that I think that Next-Gen quest is bad or anything.
@HansWurst1569
@HansWurst1569 5 ай бұрын
MODDERS MIGHT DO IT THOUGH!!!
@TheGreatLordDIO
@TheGreatLordDIO 5 ай бұрын
It's just underwhelming. There were so many rumors about cut content etc. Fans were hoping to see some of it restored at least, but nah cdpr instead of finished the already existing ideas decided to make a new quest from scratch. That's kinda bizarre
@johnsnow04
@johnsnow04 5 ай бұрын
Its even more insane given the fact that, if you dont kill Radovid, he wins the war. We are suppose to believe that, somebody who is insane, is going to win the war with Nilfgard, if we only let him do whatever he wants? I would even argue that Radovid has a very, very good reason to hate Phillipa and mages and want them dead. But they had to make him comically evil because "muh classist against mages" part.
@xLetalis
@xLetalis 5 ай бұрын
another good point
@Sunbro_Solaire
@Sunbro_Solaire 5 ай бұрын
I am going to copy paste my previous comment here Regarding Radovids mental health and the way he is in the third game… - Radovid is rather paranoid than insane and he even lets this be known during his first chess scene. He is only after his own interests and sows fear among his subordinates by being a stern ruler. His methodology of ruling creates more enemies and more people wanting him dead. In this regard, Radovid is continuosly more and more cruel which while putting heavy boots on his subjects necks and keeping them in line, also results in vicious cycle for his peole to fear him but be even more inclined to go after him. At this point, Radovid cannot trust anybody. Not his pawns which he arrayed as to his needs and definitely not witcher who was in the very center of all of the main events which took place throughout the trilogy. He is too far gone and insanely suffers from severe paranoia. - As stated numerous times throughout the game Radovid is not the one who is directly responsible for witch hunts and racial genocide. He supports it and throws a blind eye just to get Eternal Fire zealot and Novigrad Hierarch on his side. This will allow him to take over Novigrad which is the main reason he manages to win the war eventually. Radovid is personally going only after Philipa and he doesn’t care about the witch hunts. - If Geralt triggers Radovid by being sarcastic about his witch hunters while talking to him on HMS Oxenfurt-Tretogor during quest “A favor for Radovid”, king mearily replies that witcher “ignores the context” (of his actions) - Philipa humiliated Radovid throughout his childhood, ruled in his stead while he was just a child puppet king. She orchestrated his fathers death while Radovid was only 13 of age. The rumour has it, Philipa was so harsh on little Radovid that she made him pee himself in front of redanian noblemen in royal court. - The standalone Gwent game expands on Radovid lore further. For the gold he has taken from the Novigrads city treasury after he captured the city, he managed to hire legions of Ofir mercenaries, including the legendary ofieri immortals and war mammoths. Needless to say this secured his victory over Nilfgaard as he commanded joined redanian and kaedweni armies, temerian partisans, ofieri mercenaries and Novigrad fleet along with its riches and witch hunters. Not to mention Nilfgaardian noblemen refused to provide support for Emperor Emhyr and aid him further on his march for Novigrad. Furthermore, as to the Gwent standalone game lore it seems that if Radovid indeed was kept alive, he began his own military campaign and went as far as to march on Skellige isles and dwarven mountains of Mahakam. He was remembered as Radovid “The Protector of the North” rather than his previous epithet “The Stern” - More Gwent lore which sumarizes his character perfectly: “Radovid the Stern, fifth of his name, king of Redania, was a polarizing figure. Some considered him a brilliant strategist, a superb general. Others - a bloodthirsty, paranoid madman. The truth lay, as the truth is wont do , somewhere in the middle.” - I have no idea how killing Radovid and Dijkstra allows Emhyr to turn the table and win the war in the end, as Radovid has already managed to secure all of the points I’ve mentioned above - which is also why Dijkstra could just continue the war if left alive after the assasination on Radovid. My best guess would be that Emhyr managed to persuade nilfgaardian oposition to support him giving Radovids death as a valid reason to continue the war. Additionally, North is left completely leaderless in such a situation and temerian partisans laid down their arms as to Talars peace treaty agreement, hence Emhyr could march further on other fronts. To conclude, while I obviously do not like him as a person I must admit that his character is very well written and interesting. It’s only a shame all of this information is not pointed more evidently in the third game and has to be digged up through ingame letters, books, random conversations and standalone Gwent game lore.
@TheGreatLordDIO
@TheGreatLordDIO 5 ай бұрын
@@Sunbro_Solaire I just wish there was an option to hand Philippa over to Radovid thus ending the witch hunts (like it was implied in the books). Hell, Philippa's responsible for Radovid's actions against mages, she was one of the main villains in the second game and in the third she just casually walks free. Really unsatisfying
@Sunbro_Solaire
@Sunbro_Solaire 5 ай бұрын
@@TheGreatLordDIO Watch the newest video from xLetalis or Glassfish. Philipha gets captured and presumably later executed by Emhyr.
@TheGreatLordDIO
@TheGreatLordDIO 5 ай бұрын
@@Sunbro_Solaire Yeah and I'm real buffled by cdpr's decision to cut this. It's a fitting end for the lodge. I don't pity any of them, even Margarita. Who cares that she was acting all nice etc if she was working with Philippa? That should already tell you she's not trustworthy. I'd still prefer if Radovid caught them all but that's something at least.
@Skursss
@Skursss 5 ай бұрын
How do you explain that the devilishly intelligent spy jumps down with 1.5 leg to fight Geralt Of fucking Rivia? bro like what?
@doihavetobeg
@doihavetobeg 5 ай бұрын
He has a big axe and a bigger belly. I'm sure he'll be fiiiiine.
@Skursss
@Skursss 5 ай бұрын
@@doihavetobeg ykw, you're right. He kinda looks like Executioner Smough too.
@Faikitty
@Faikitty 5 ай бұрын
Really enjoying these deep dives into the quests! This one is definitely a complicated one. It's a love-hate thing for me - I always enjoy it while I'm playing it because the actual activity is so engaging but whenever I think about it when I'm not actively playing it, I get frustrated over the actual plot.
@TheGreatLordDIO
@TheGreatLordDIO 5 ай бұрын
I feel like even cdpr realised they really messed up Radovid in this game and the whole assassination and war storylines, therefore they added additional lore to Radovid's rule in Gwent's Iron Judgement expansion. But still, no card game's extended lore can fix they damage they did...
@hueylongdong347
@hueylongdong347 5 ай бұрын
I still don't understand this narrative people have in their heads calling Radovid insane. Most, if not all, Witch burnings and Eternal Fire fanaticism we see in the game takes place in Novigrad, which is notably NOT in Radovid's domain. He has influence there, sure, through Whoreson Junior and commander of the Temple Guard Menge but ultimately it is Hierarch Hemmelfart and the Church which call the shots and push for the burning of Witches. Funnily enough, the only decent Witch Hunters we see in the entire game are in Oxenfurt from the Bloody Baron's quest who take in his daughter Tamara and help Geralt and the Baron rescue his wife Anna. And the Witch Hunts are clearly a political, not an ideological move by Radovid. He has no problems with Mages existing, just that they serve the Crown unconditionally, no different than in Nilfgaard. You can clearly see that if you import a save from Witcher 2 where you have saved Triss and helped recreate the Council and the Conclave. The North is an existential war with Nilfgaard after having two of its monarchs assassinated by a group of Mages. As far as the Nordlings are concerned, the Mages ARE responsible for the North's ills and, as far as Radovid is concerned, he has witnessed a political murder of two of his colleagues, one of whom - Foltest - was his ally the day before. The Witch Hunts are the only sensible policy from a political point of view in Medieval times when you are a ruler who needs the support of the common folk while battling a superior enemy and who doesn't know which other Mages are close to killing you without a warning. The Chess scene is probably the most poorly understood scene by Witcher 3 players. Radovid explicitly tells Geralt, if you answer him wrong, that he is speaking metaphorically. He doesn't mean he literally thinks that the chess pieces are alive, he is talking about how chess is a poor imitation of real life because, in real life, your enemies are not just the pieces on the opposite side but also your own pawns who want nothing more but to have a chance to kill and overthrow you. And the game literally validates this point of view. Emhyr is battling his own nobility and guilds back home and can be assassinated should Radovid win the Third Northern War. Radovid himself can be assassinated by Roche, who technically is his ally, and Dijkstra, the former spymaster of Redania. Radovid's father Vizimer was assassinated by Phillipa who was not stopped by Dijkstra, the guy whose sole job was to know about plots. Radovid wishes to make these plotters suffer, not because he suffers from psychosis. Radovid is fine in Witcher 3. He is a ruthless politician who is mentally scarred by his childhood because of his father's assassination and Phillipa's regency, like he has always been.
@TomssP642
@TomssP642 5 ай бұрын
Very accurate. I hate how dirty and comically and cheaply Radovid ended up portrayed. Or rather - how he is spoken of. Literally nothing he does is insane.
@TheGreatLordDIO
@TheGreatLordDIO 5 ай бұрын
This quest is not complex, it's just stupid... Seeing as how at the end of Witcher 2 Roche really wanted to be on Radovid's side and wanted to establish Temeria-Redania alliance (just like Foltest and Radovid in previous games) I found it very buffling to see him suddenly go "Radovid needs to die". And what are his reasons? Radovid attacked Kaedwen, yeah as if Roche would ever care about Kaedwen after what Henselt does in the second game. And what's next - Radovid won't restore Temeria. First off, this is a direct contradiction to choices from 1 and 2 game where Foltest's daughter's can be with Radovid, so basically it is his right to have Temeria under Redania's protection. And even if you didn't commit to those choices, Roche himself said he wanted to make a deal with Radovid, Anais in exchange for free Temeria in the future. And hell, Roche hated nilfgaard more than anything, so that's just weird how he'd ever make a deal with Emhyr. As for Geralt. The entire witcher 2's plot is about trying to clear his name, that he was not a kingslayer. Meanwhile in the third game he's totally fine with the assassination plot. This is crazy. "Oooh but Radovid is a threat to Triss and Yen", bruh it's as if Geralt wanted to assassinate Emhyr because he's controlling Yen and by starting a war with north he's a threat to most of Geralt's friends who live there. This is none of Geralt's business and never was, especially when he's got the wild hunt on his mind. As for Dijkstra, isn't it concerning that after king's death suddenly Dijkstra rules? Bruh, talk about laws in Redania, there are basically none if a man who was banished from Redania can just casually become it's chancellor. And as for Radovid. He was fine until the reason of state quest. He was a bit different, but he wasn't evil or anything. I feel like characters constantly talk about him being crazy but it's never really shown before the reason of state quest, so what's up with that? The whole war thing was just shown like a nilfgaardian propaganda, redania evil burning mages and non-humas, nilfgaard mostly good besides invading. I just wish there was an option to hand Philippa over to Radovid thus ending the witch hunts (like it was implied in the books). She was one of main antagonists in the second game while here she just goes free, that's kinda crazy...
@RadekCrazy1
@RadekCrazy1 4 ай бұрын
All this needed to have is a different conversation of Djiskra thanking Geralt and sending him away telling him he has a lot to discuss with the rest of the conspirators. There could be some hidden clues in the whole previous quest the player could find if he is observant enough indicating what Djiskra has in plan for his "friends" that would give the option to opose Dijskra and insist to stay with the others which would made Djiskra mad then telling him his true plan. Instead of staying there like a moron he would flee and could be found and killed later in the bathhouse.
@GUS2720
@GUS2720 5 ай бұрын
Can you also do a video about Adda? She was married to Radovid in the second game, but forgotten in the third one
@mrlucky9157
@mrlucky9157 5 ай бұрын
Not forgotten, she's the queen on Radovid's chessboard ;)
@jesseomollo9405
@jesseomollo9405 5 ай бұрын
There is a new video from KZbinr 'glassfish777' where they have restored a quest with redkit. Where yennifer betrays the Lodge. I tried adding link but KZbin always deleted it.
@xLetalis
@xLetalis 5 ай бұрын
I've been in contact with him and will make a video about it too :)
@wearsjorge55
@wearsjorge55 5 ай бұрын
It threw me how nothing changed in the world after, i mean we just killed a king in the middle of a multi faction war and no one noticed
@vojtechpavlicek5635
@vojtechpavlicek5635 5 ай бұрын
During your toast with bloody baron at the start of velen questline, baron says something along the lines of: "with king foltest dead and natalis's whereabouts unknown ...", and that's the only metion of him throughout the entire game if i remmember correctly. Love your videos man, hope you keep making more.
@MiSt3300
@MiSt3300 5 ай бұрын
My friend, I will comment on the "polish saying that you show russian covers", as a Pole myself, I have to admit that sadly we are often ignorant when it comes to the cyrillic script and assume that it's just "russian", which is so ignorant. I personally learned the russian cyrillic cause it's so cool to be able to understand some things in foreign languages, and it's not hard at all. Kudos to you for a great video, as always!
@guts4347
@guts4347 5 ай бұрын
Did you know that BOTH the Glagolitic AND Cyrillic scripts originate in Bulgaria.
@MiSt3300
@MiSt3300 5 ай бұрын
@@guts4347 I knew about the cyrillic originating in bulgaria, but I have limited knowledge of Glagolitic
@binjoofficial
@binjoofficial 2 ай бұрын
the alphabet in the witcher games is heavily based on glagolithic, by the way (though you probably knew that)
@Arkenway
@Arkenway 5 ай бұрын
John Natalis is mentionned by the Bloody Baron when he offers Geralt vodka. He says something like "with Foltest dead and Natalis missing, there's not many Temerians to drink to" And Anais is mentionned only once I believe when you simulate a save and Morvran Voohris asks you what you were doing in Loc Muine
@squuid15
@squuid15 2 ай бұрын
The first time i did this mission i remember saying to myself, if Roche and Ves weren't here I'd probably leave.
@saladinbob
@saladinbob 5 ай бұрын
it's not just a case of waiting, Dijkstra's plan has a sound logic to it. The North is dead, its Kings are dead and the fact they've had three wars against an aggressive neighbour is precisely because they're disunited. Having a Northern Empire as a counterpoint to Nilfgaard brings balance and peace to the Continent. Dijkstra never takes the time to argue his case, just decides to off Roche when decisions like that are above his paygrade anyway. Ultimately the reason that quest is so bad is because it's left overs of the original plot and was meant to be in Act 1, not Act 3.
@theshine_x1064
@theshine_x1064 5 ай бұрын
The thing that bothers me the most of this entire question is how badly Radovid has been carried throughout the trilogy. In the first game we can meet Radovid with more of an innocent attitude, dealing with the Salamandra in an empty house (with no guards or security, for some reason) and can even marry Adda. But, in the sequel, Adda is almost like she had never existed (not to talk about the witcher 3) and the whole story between Anais, Roche, and the mentally strong and strategic Radovid that appeared in the witcher 2 is gone like nothing had ever happened. I think the break of the continuity and cohesion between all three games is a very concerning matter, and more will it be, when, in the future, they release the witcher 1 remake and more and more people that have only played witcher 3 eventually get into the whole trilogy and realize that most important things aren't even mentioned in the last game. By the way, good video, I completely agree with you about this questline 👍.
@michalbrnoliak5992
@michalbrnoliak5992 5 ай бұрын
It's going to be really interesting if the TW1 remake is going to handle the political stuff better and how the remakes of Witcher 2 and Witcher 3 - that IMO are absolutely certain at this point - going to handle choices made in the Witcher 1 remake and if they are going to do massive rewrites of the storylines that went nowhere from Witcher 1 to the later Witcher games
@kubaswiton9030
@kubaswiton9030 5 ай бұрын
I always brake Dijkstra's leg. Just because it makes more sense.
@npc6254
@npc6254 5 ай бұрын
The ending to the Radovid quest line is legitimately horrendous; I always side with Roche and Djigstra’d death has always bugs me. He dies like a basic enemy and nobody even reacts to it.
@2KXMKR
@2KXMKR 5 ай бұрын
Not sure if this is new or I've somehow missed it during my five previous playthroughs, but the ghost of Annabelle in the tower on Fyke Isle now wanders around, watching Geralt as he makes his way up the tower during A Towerful of Mice. I almost crapped myself when I turned around and the light from Keira's lamp panned around to reveal her just standing there watching me. After just standing and staring for a while she jogged away, up the stairs. I followed close behind and noticed a small green trail of 'magic' attaching to her from the many wall torches that ignite as she passes by. I first noticed her after observing the ghost of the guy she attacked in the small room. I knew about the strange shadowy 'crone' statue that appears there and was looking out for it the whole time, but never saw it. Mayhaps they have updated it so Annabelle now takes its place? You need to be using the lamp at all times to see her. Otherwise she's completely invisible.
@xLetalis
@xLetalis 5 ай бұрын
Yes I believe I've seen Annabelle within the tower, moving upstairs ahead of you, it's really cool
@mikemma6695
@mikemma6695 5 ай бұрын
Please don’t stop making Witcher content ( although all of believe you never will ) We love them!
@dotnetforever
@dotnetforever 5 ай бұрын
so, no we have a chance to fix this with redkit)
@ljp400
@ljp400 5 ай бұрын
this is actually a really good point and i think one day a skilled modder/fans will hopefully fix a lot of the stuff in it
@dotnetforever
@dotnetforever 5 ай бұрын
@@ljp400 that is basically fantastic news. And redkit is not a modding tool. Redkit is actually engine the witcher game has been created with. So... entire new world cn be created. Animated quests, new characters, Everything
@mh8826
@mh8826 5 ай бұрын
I don’t get why people are overlooking that it was Roche who went off to cut a deal with Nilfgaard on the side.. Roche is only interested in his goal.. not some “bromance” with Geralt.. the dialogue at Kaer Morhen when you let Letho come is also evidence to that
@saekisadako2118
@saekisadako2118 5 ай бұрын
he also says i don't trust you no matter what at the beginning of the game and if you side with iorveth he wants to eleminate you and the elf but luckily for him natalis doesn't allow him to try to kill iorveth and geralt.
@mh8826
@mh8826 5 ай бұрын
@@saekisadako2118 exactly.. it’s like people just jump on the “bro” train and don’t look into the details
@saekisadako2118
@saekisadako2118 5 ай бұрын
@@mh8826 yeah he also uses geralt as bait in flotsam. i just didn't help him rescue ves for the reasons i listed above and then chose dijkstra in my first playthrought
@mh8826
@mh8826 5 ай бұрын
@@saekisadako2118 same here.. he made his bed in my opinion..
@TheGreatLordDIO
@TheGreatLordDIO 5 ай бұрын
It's still dumb. Roche hates nilfgaard more than anything. It caused his beloved Temeria more damage than Redania. Besides, being a vassal is just an illusion of freedom because Temeria will have to listen to Nilfgaard anyway because there will be Nilfgaard all around them. The only thing Temeria gains from this deal is the right to keep their name and flag which is a very childish perspective on sovereignty. At least under Radovid's rule you know you're not being fooled or lied to
@mikailkreuzer1202
@mikailkreuzer1202 5 ай бұрын
i knew what quest this video was about before clicking the video
@ramendragon3628
@ramendragon3628 5 ай бұрын
Me too, lol!
@saekisadako2118
@saekisadako2118 5 ай бұрын
4:30 you're forgetting that this bro literally used geralt as bait in flotsam and planned to kill him and iorveth on the elf's path but natalis doesnt allow him to eleminate them. he only saves geralt in the camp so the witcher can keep looking for letho and it happens before roche wanting to eleminate iorveth and geralt. in witcher3 roche also says he doesn't trust geralt even if his path is choosen. basically roche isnt a friend of geralt.
@anoNEMOs
@anoNEMOs 5 ай бұрын
One thing I loved about the quest is that all three preceding story parts need to unite to kill Radovid: Roche from Witcher 2 Thaler from Witcher 1 Dijkstra from Witcher books
@genesisosuna
@genesisosuna 4 ай бұрын
I'm still so sad about iorveth not being in the Witcher 3. Like you said continuity is a big issue in tw3 from the other two games, and aside from maybe a few references here and there we don't know anything about a lot of characters. Like on my first playthrough of tw2 I went down the anais path only for that to be completely irrelevant in tw3. Anwyays, I played the game multiple times after that and did other routes and whatnot, and iorveth quickly became one of my favorite characters. I hope they remake tw2 eventually, see what the Witcher 1 remake has in store first I guess, see what path they go down with it
@xLetalis
@xLetalis 4 ай бұрын
Yeah Iorveth's is my preferred path too :(
@xLetalis
@xLetalis 4 ай бұрын
Yeah a Witcher 2 remake would be great as well, there is some shaky voice acting here and there but the general plot is quite interesting, the game could also use an expansion of sorts, especially given how very little of it is properly continued in the Witcher 3
@mr.wilson9178
@mr.wilson9178 5 ай бұрын
I learned that you re bulgarian? Your english is so good! Anyway thks for all your work, it s a treat everytime! Bless you!
@BIPNick
@BIPNick 5 ай бұрын
My Good Sir, it is indeed a pleasure to watch a video of yours again! As for the quest, I think it is not as bad as some make it, nor as good as others may claim it to be, but I still think it is fun to play altogether, except for 1 point, the Thaler rescue, WHY DOES HE WALK SO SLOW??? Anyway, as for the critics of your work, mind not about such, it is a matter of no consequence in the whole support I am sure you get from the vast majority of us. If it is in your power and in mind, I await for more videos about this game that has moved and touched so many of us fans, so deeply and magnificently... Hope you and yours are all doing well and wishing all of you the very best, I am, yours most sincerely, William Nicholas
@OasisLand00
@OasisLand00 5 ай бұрын
Hey with the new mod creation kit that we got now maybe someone can finally make mods that can fix this crap. Cause yes this was one of if not THE actual bad thing in Witcher 3. Fingers crossed a mod to change this problem exist one day.
@deamnis
@deamnis 5 ай бұрын
What bothered me the most about this quest was that no one ever acknowledges radovid being dead
@nikolal.8053
@nikolal.8053 5 ай бұрын
I think it makes sense that Anais becomes queen of Temeria after it becomes a vassal kingdom to Nilfgaard because she is likely in Roche's custody by the end of Witcher 2 and Roche is the one negotiating with Nilfgaard, he would surely want her to inherit the throne. Also if you look at it from Roche's perspective betraying Radovid is not that far-fetched since he wanted to put Temeria under his influence in W2 and he didn't send help to Temerian Army when they were fighting Nilfgaard in W3. Also Radovid is losing his mind and has a history of throwing away his allies after they run out of their usefullness for example Order of the flaming rose.
@tupcho33
@tupcho33 5 ай бұрын
Hey, i didn't know you were a Bulgarian, good to know that there is a Bulgarian who is getting a good audience. Браво
@richtherocket795
@richtherocket795 5 ай бұрын
It was great to hear you comment on these inconsistencies! I've often thought maybe I just missed something, given the divergent quest lines. I always wondered what happened to Ves, Saskia, Yorvuth, and little Anais? I was starting to doubt my own memory! I wonder why they were all left out, given how character and plot detailed the game is; that's some pretty major oversight!
@benjthorpe
@benjthorpe 5 ай бұрын
There was a cut scene right before the assassination plot where they all go get really drunk, that’s why nothing makes any sense
@filipgawronski4364
@filipgawronski4364 5 ай бұрын
I hate how they butchered Radovids personality and even his looks to a degree. In W2 he in fact is looking "Stern" in W3 he is sickly looking madman. All that happened in like a time of like 6 months or so?
@mannym1635
@mannym1635 5 ай бұрын
With regards to Natalis, I do know he was mentioned by Bloody Baron early on, when he and Geralt were having a drink. He says something to the effect of "...and with Natalis' whereabouts unknown, who's a loyal Temerian to drink to?" So I believe his fate was left intentionally vague.
@xLetalis
@xLetalis 5 ай бұрын
indeed
@CoreSystemDev
@CoreSystemDev 5 ай бұрын
The year is 2024, Letalis is still uploading Witcher 3 videos. 🗿
@presterjohn9088
@presterjohn9088 5 ай бұрын
Although I only understand a tiny bit of Russian I can tell that the Bulgarian book covers aren't in Russian. While both Bulgarian and Russian do use a version of the Cyrillic alphabet, I believe the alphabet originated in what is now Bulgaria. Great video Letalis. Thanks for continuing to provide fresh Witcher content a decade after TW3.
@eldibs
@eldibs 5 ай бұрын
Geralt betraying Roche would be like Commander Shepard in Mass Effect betraying Garrus. He had your back the whole way. I hated having to fight Dijkstra, though. Despite his attitude, he was genuinely helpful, more helpful than he was required to be.
@VladH317
@VladH317 13 күн бұрын
Не знаех, че си българин!! А те гледам от години!! Все съм се чудил защо слагаш българските корици! Браво! Чудесен канал! Чудесно съдържание! ❤️❤️❤️ много ме зарадва и изненада
@W._Langman
@W._Langman 5 ай бұрын
I tried some Bulgarian sweets this month. Peanut flavoured boiled sweets that translate as Krutz Krutz. Omg, I need more, they only gave us two😭 Yeah, you are right about the quest. It has always left me dissatisfied
@xenon8117
@xenon8117 5 ай бұрын
2:36 NO!!! Now Ciri is watching this evil? No I'm.. I'm.. this is too much. Be good Xletalis, so cruel.
@RedaniaKnight-Elect
@RedaniaKnight-Elect 5 ай бұрын
There are many stupid details about the questline too. Radovid personally arrives to meet Geralt (a meeting during which he chooses to kill him for no reason) and is escorted by bunch of conscripts and witch hunters. No knights or any sort of elite troops. He is the most important person in the North, by the way. I detest the questline personally (don't look at my name/pfp I'm totally not biased) and I honestly believe that they added it just to compensate for the lack of political quests that the second game was full of. I wish Radovid was more of a complex character and he wasn't just insane, but rather cold and calculating due to the situation he was in. Young king which was thrown into a massive war where he had to unite hopelessly stubborn north against a relentless foe that just seen your people as the pigdogs of the world that need to be subjugated. Not to mention that he is fresh after an event where kings were dropping left and right. He is for sure competent as he wins the war against Nilfgaard if you don't outright kill him, which is something that the Northern Kingdoms could never accomplish by themselves. I really hate that the ending with him is just "oh he now starts killing non humans too for some reason". Witch hunts were completely political at first and I really hate that you can't help people like Carduin to reestablish the Brotherhood of Sorcerers and help him gain political power under Radovid or something along the lines. Which would be far more interesting as it would've implied that Radovid with Carduin's help just demolished the lodge for replace it with the brotherhood instead. This whole thing could also introduce an interesting (in my opinion) headbutting between mages. Choice between helping to preserve the Lodge and thus make Nilfgaard stronger or choice between rebuilding the Brotherhood to make the North stronger. Instead the whole cool dilemma in TW2 got ignored and you just get a single appearance of Carduin in TW3 who just shrugs and says "it is what it is" if you help him in the previous game. Can't even kill Philippa when she is the most deserving one, but it's likely because someone in CDPR has a hard on for her so she is just a protected character. Makes no sense why you can kill Kiera in two different ways, but Philippa for some reason is some holy cow that you just can't touch. IMO they should've just made the quest more straightforward in a way. Either Nilfgaard wins or Redania wins. Make both leaders competent and give both of them more screen time instead of wasting time on additional options which ended up being halfassed anyways. I also liked the option of neutrality win where you ensure Novigrad wins, so the war results in a stalemate. But I think from the beginning they planned it to be one or the other.
@st.anselmsfire3547
@st.anselmsfire3547 5 ай бұрын
A much better way to end this quest would've been to have Djikstra's betrayal be *after* the end of the game. And it should've been subtle, with him turning Temeria into a vassal state of Redania, though slowly. He could've given the Temerians their own flag, their own army, even their own king - imagine if he made little Anais the official ruler of Temeria, a little girl, loyal to him, protected by Roche, who now owes him a favor. That's how Djikstra would've done it in the books, anyway. Plans within plans.
@MrCoolAttitude
@MrCoolAttitude 5 ай бұрын
And we're back, back again.
@RAD1111able
@RAD1111able 5 ай бұрын
It's one of those quests where you see that they cut a lot of content. I personally hate that Sun Stone quest and getting out of those caves, that's the first quest that comes to mind when Philippa comes up.
@MattysChannel1357
@MattysChannel1357 5 ай бұрын
I liked this quest to be honest 😅 But I haven't played the previous games, so I don't have that much of a connection to Dijkstra and the other characters either
@Flummiification
@Flummiification 5 ай бұрын
for me the explanation to the ending was djikstra going all in on the assumption Geralt values his help fighting the wild hunt more that the friendship with roach. also the northern kingdoms are never united nor are they in the book where they more or less betray each other at any given opportunity if they can get something out of it even to the exted of working with nilfgard. but i agree that the questline leaks in comparison to others and has some awkward plot holes
@dave3076
@dave3076 2 ай бұрын
Cheers. I was very surprised at this end 'choice' in Reason of State. I replayed the sequence in case I had missed an alternative outcome. What a shame.
@starbuild8324
@starbuild8324 5 ай бұрын
I think that the only mention of Anaïs La Valette in Witcher 3 is during the questioning at Vizima by Morvran Voorhis (part of the questions if you didn't upload a save from Witcher 2). So I guess the devs thought they can mention her there, have you say what you decided about her and then erase her from existence 🤷. But I guess this was still something because my poor boy Iorveth didn't even received that much.
@hubson1443
@hubson1443 Ай бұрын
7:20 in Polish version of Witcher 1, that guy is called Magister, while the book character was Profesor, making them 2 different characters even by their names - I just wrote this cause I didn't had any idea they shared a name in english translation
@doltonnoak2656
@doltonnoak2656 5 ай бұрын
As much as i love the game, i have to accept the fact that was rushed by the end. One thing i always hated it is how the world goes back to the "Radovid is king looks" no matter what ending you get. I think they could have added more than a quest in the devils pit with the enhanced edition imo. Great video as always 👍
@cirillariannon844
@cirillariannon844 5 ай бұрын
To be honest, I wished for some sort of "director's cut" with all the cut content finished and implemented in the game, more than I wished for the next-gen update, but I am aware that is an impossible job and will probably never happen. (sigh) Btw, Bulgarian book covers look so cool, I love the design :D
@abandis
@abandis 5 ай бұрын
there is a mention about john natalis in the sidequest in white orchard. The quest where you kill a drowners and then talk to a guy from natalis squad (sorry for bad english)
@TheSloth375
@TheSloth375 5 ай бұрын
Your english is very good brother. No apology needed
@Arkenway
@Arkenway 5 ай бұрын
"Sorry for bad english" is 100% of the times an indication that the comment will be written very well 😂
@onearmedwolf6512
@onearmedwolf6512 5 ай бұрын
The baron says. "With Folyest dead and Natalis whereabouts unknown, what's a loyal temerian to drink to" or something close to that. That's the only mention of Natalis
@iraposeiro
@iraposeiro 5 ай бұрын
I like yen, and I like some of this quest… triss not so much in the books but in the games she’s a little better
@fabiosachs
@fabiosachs 5 ай бұрын
Dijkstra's solution would be the best possible for the North, but even knowing this, Geralt would never let him kill his friends
@Slipak_Podilskyi
@Slipak_Podilskyi 2 ай бұрын
It is a real problem that people who do not understand languages, when they see Cyrillic, they immediately think that is Russian
@robd9413
@robd9413 5 ай бұрын
The biggest problem I have with the ending of Reason of State is purely on me - the game often gets stuck. It is one of only two points in the game where the enemy suddenly becomes immortal - every hit does 0 damage. (The other being the final fight when he is supposed to throw you through the door for Stage 2, but doesn't.) The difference is that if you let the end guy hit you a bit, he will resume the normal fight, but here you have to restart and redo all the dialogue to get it going again
@danielallison4152
@danielallison4152 5 ай бұрын
Honestly during this quest I got confused. The game made so much sense up until this point. There was no reasoning to it, it felt so sloppy and rushed. And I had to convince my self that Witcher 3 is such a beautifully developed game with so much of the stories and quest mixing together with real world consequences that it's possible the devs were just exhausted. Let's be honest there are easily over 427 quest including main story missions, side quests 😂 that's a lot. So yea, I sleep well at night by thinking "Maybe the devs were just tired" 😂😂
@xenon8117
@xenon8117 5 ай бұрын
It would have been more impactful to not have a choice. Then replaying it means to save the north and kill Radovid means dooming friends to death, it would be more interesting.
@savionhathorn6945
@savionhathorn6945 5 ай бұрын
I feel like I remember Dijkstra saying something about preferring to be behind the scenes rather than being royalty in the books. Maybe while talking with Thyssen?
@alima_nieh5353
@alima_nieh5353 5 ай бұрын
hopefully the mod community will edit this quest with redkit soon
@смрш
@смрш 5 ай бұрын
I believe the only reference to the fate of John Natalis is the Bloody Baron saying his whereabouts are unknown, so he's either dead or in hiding leading guerillas somewhere like Roach
@bakters
@bakters 5 ай бұрын
There is more sense to this quest. Yes, they had to cut it, but it's not obvious what Geralt would have done. First of all, Thaler can be fun, but he's no friend to anyone but himself. We know it from TW1. Roach is not much better. He's willing to sacrifice a village which helped him. Yes, Geralt and Roach have shared some experiences, but what if Geralt never liked him? What if Roach never liked Geralt? They were allies, as long as it suited them, but that'd be it. Yes, the ending was very theatrical, but the devs knew it was, so they staged it in a theater. A fourth wall wink, which seems to fly over everybody's head.
@JarkkoHietaniemi
@JarkkoHietaniemi 5 ай бұрын
My biggest problem with the quest is that despite all, I like Dijkstra and would have liked an option where his plan is denied but he still lives, e.g. by having a last-minute clever escape.
@Cicadicsaint204
@Cicadicsaint204 5 ай бұрын
Nah the werewolf in the garden is the worst quest by far. My anger from that quest directly or indirectly affected my decision to break Dijkstra's legs to vent off some steam.
@crygreg8484
@crygreg8484 5 ай бұрын
I like the fact that you're praising the game for what it did well (if it didn't do well, we wouldn't be here after all examining cut content) but also critcize it whenever it's justified. I feel like Witcher 3 would have resonated with me a lot better if it remained with its original ideas and concepts - at least for the most part, a lot of them got improved throughout development too, of course (just look at the baron's characterization) and if the game would have had more focus on making Witcher 1 & 2 choices impact Witcher 3. Still, the game was still very good (though sadly not among my top 3) and at least now with REDKit, this might change (and get among my top 3 after all :D). And about Anais: She is mentioned exactly once, I believe, during the save generation section with Voorhis.
@vedajanitra8199
@vedajanitra8199 5 ай бұрын
i really do hope that with the arrival of Redkit, modders will be able to edit the Reason of State quest. Like sparring Djikstra or convince him that he can take Redania while leave the rest to Nilfgaard or something along those lines
@Zi1ith
@Zi1ith 4 ай бұрын
I feel like this quest is only hated because we the player are thinking from a third person perspective, it’s made very clear Roche has basically lost his mind and is manic about about reviving Temaria, Roche tells Geralt he doesn’t trust him, leaves him out of the talks where he explains the plan to Ves, and will only help you out at Kaer Morhen if he owes you. Where as depending on your choices Dijkstra will grow to have “soft spot” for Geralt. This on top of Geralts policy of neutrality i believe is what gave Dijkstra the balls to turn on roche infront of him. Alternatively revealing his intentions infront of Geralt would be the only conceivable way Dijkstra could possibly enlists geralts help again in the future.
@ZombieMurdoc
@ZombieMurdoc 5 ай бұрын
Right before you head to Radovid's boat, Thaler plainly says that he and Djikstra are staying behind because they aren't fighters. I will say though, on Death March difficulty Djikstra can almost one shot you if you're not careful.
@ryzacobalion3622
@ryzacobalion3622 Ай бұрын
i feel like this was supposed to be Rodovid doing the betraying instead Dijkstra but someone at CDPR probably decided to switch them. Because the way it's set up, it feels like Radovid was suppose to say the line and it fit in line with his whole mad king persona he has in this game. Like he used the Termerians as canon fodder in the war, asks you to kill Dijkstra, then betrays you at the end so he can be the mad king again and kill all the mages. That would make much more sense for both a narrative and writing perspective. And it would give us the player to kill mad king Radovid with Roche as its new leader. Provided that he also didn't side with Nilfgaard in the war. i feel like that would been a better quest then the one we got in the main game.
@staticradio724
@staticradio724 5 ай бұрын
The look on Roche's face when geralt is like, "Alright, imma head out," is always so funny to me. Like, "Really, bruh???"
@hopethishelps91
@hopethishelps91 5 ай бұрын
They should have tied a major decision into choosing djistra, I want to be really conflicted while having too choose between him and roach. Sadly they didn't, like imagine if he had the cure to the plague or if you needed him to free triss/yen. Make me hate myself for having to choose dang it!!!!!
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