XPENG CEO's FSD V12.3.6 Test in the US

[@avrahamrothschild2418]

As a one that bought stocks of XPEV. I am happy to see the head of the company looking at competitors. Love from Israel❤

[@Keyman135]

You gonna lose lots of money bro lol

[@alonitzik447]

@@Keyman135 Like Tesla users did ? lol

[@4a23ziadibnshamimsjis6]

Free Palestine 🇵🇸🇵🇸🇵🇸🇵🇸

[@Millmpire]

Shout out to the Narrator 🎉 GOOD JOB

[@KaiUga-ni3hk]

I wish Western CEOs would do such reviews in competitor cars and share it with their employees. Probably they are afraid, that such driven car might be superior - and such worries are the root cause to fall behind, once you give up to learn from competitors. I am confident, that XPeng employees feel very warmhearted watching this movie from and with their boss.

[@AndyKopac]

They do, Tesla is not stupid enough to publicize it

[@bekind2047]

I’m afraid Western CEOs are not able to really test drive these ‘cars’.

[@DerKatzeSonne]

I feel like there is a huge cultural difference. In the western world many people try to talk down the competition and find all the negatives. In China (Asia?) there seems to be more of a "respect" for other products. Finding all the good things about it. (and eventually integrating them into their own products)

[@bdogmccool8096]

Elon did in the VW id3 with the CEO from VW

[@eaojnr]

It's naive for a CEO to engage in this behavior. Given the number of CEOs originating from there, it's understandable, but it doesn't make sense. Why should one CEO review another? Are we aiming for a single collective mindset? Is it to mock each other? We used to witness this banter between Apple and Microsoft, and we see it between brands like Android and iOS, but it's not typical for CEOs to stoop this low. Consider this scenario: the CEO of Coca-Cola reviews Pepsi products, and the Pepsi CEO reviews Coca-Cola. What then? Do they both agree to collaborate and tackle the product of Fitz Juice? It's absurd. This trend has become mainstream in China, as most of these CEOs are looking for ways to increase sales or bolster their identity. It's become pervasive since the China 100EV summit and is a precursor to a consolidation on the horizon, as mainstream manufacturers supporting these new EV manufacturers are running thin. Each one is trying to compete to maintain a high mind share. It's almost laughably ridiculous, but it's accepted in China. Remember, new EV manufacturers are essentially tech integrators. They don't own or control the full value chain like Tesla does. They hire skilled designers, mostly from Europe, to assist with body design, and then integrate EV parts from various first-party designers and manufacturers - motors, controllers, batteries, screens, software, etc. They survive by being extensions of key manufacturing corporations that have solid state backing, such as SAIC, Changan, Dongfeng, BAIC, Great Wall Motors, Jac, Geely, etc. They maximize design by selling design among themselves to the point that you see copying as a flatery. China's well-oiled and managed leadership system understands the role of manufacturing in its growth, so the strategy to use these top-line NEV integrators to help diversify foundational car manufacturers is a brilliant strategy that is miles ahead of a typical capitalist system in the West. Suggesting the West should copy China is a recipe for stifling ingenious innovation or creating a monotonous landscape of products. We don't want that! We want ingenuity in innovation to help drive the industry. Xeng's rise to success was because of the innovation Tesla championed and by them releasing the blueprint for EV to the industry. Same with the rest of the NEVs that have risen in the past 5 years. The world of ingenious innovation has become the cornerstone for applied innovation in China today. There are certainly things we can leverage, but this is not one of them. Remember, I mentioned the Apple vs. Microsoft rivalry in the past; it was simply not healthy or smart. Eventually, Bill Gates and Steve Jobs toned it down. You can compare anonymously by showcasing some advantages over the other by way of similar tech. For example, comparing vision-only performance with vision+lidar+radar sensor fusion, or by comparing a car that has about 64TOPS computing capacity to one that has 512TOPS computing capacity, and yet the lower of TOPS performs better in general compared to the other. In general, I think this stunt is perhaps good for showing off, trying to drive people to buy his products because he did the test. And don't get me wrong, this will entice naive buyers in China to buy an Xpeng car, if lucky. Perhaps that's the main motivation here. Nevertheless, I'm not sure a Western CEO should stoop this low.

[@mikethecargeek]

0:00 XNGP vs FSD 23:29 Differences between driving conditions 24:56 FSD vs. XNGP 26:45 Differences between FSD and XNGP 30:00 Safety 32:07 Jointly pioneering autonomous driving 🤔

[@jimc1654]

Jointly pioneering autonomous driving ... We have hire former Tesla employee to help us out.

[@damagesx]

Thank you for this you rule!

[@SuperchargedTravels]

Anytime the Tesla FSD hesitates, you can use the accelerator pedal to tell the car to proceed.

[@U2B_Viewer]

8:25 when you have two destinations in the navigation it will arrive to the first destination and then you need to tap the accelerator to continue on to the next destination. Because you deleted the first destination it then proceeded to continue to the second destination😊

[@saanggwo61]

When no destination is set, it’s on autopilot which you navigate by yourself. FSD can only be on when destination is set. It makes a lot of sense. It’s only you don’t know about it.

[@niosanfrancisco]

Chinese CEOs do the WORK.

[@rmkkkk]

In US and EU many people don't use voice assistants, and they complain when Chinese cars start talking. So it's western thing

[@Tafsern]

In Europe we don't use them because they suck. Only one that really does something descent is Android Automotive. But I've tried Xpeng G6 in Norway and even though I had to talk English it worked really well. At least for car stuff. 😎

[@rmkkkk]

Yeah true. But for example nio is good for controlling car functions, people still complaining

[@Tafsern]

@@rmkkkk Because they want AI or?

[@rmkkkk]

@@Tafsernno they just don't like controlling with sound or something like that. 😂

[@Tafsern]

@@rmkkkkWeird, never heard of that. 😅

[@garthwoodworth3558]

FSD will drive with no navigation. If you know about this feature, it is not surprising. I think FSD makes a fair assumption that if you have not given it navigation, you probably want to go forward. What would be the alternative? Would a driver prefer it to stop? Probably not. Or, if you have not yet engaged FSD, but you do so while driving without entering navigation, again, it is reasonable to expect you want to continue the way you are going. Here is one particular case. Occasionally, I get in the car from the store, and expect to go home. But I neglected to enter the navigation. Soon I realize the audio cues are not telling me the next navigation, action, and I can see on the screen there is no future navigation event. The first time this happens, I realize what is happening that it does not have navigation instructions. I simply press the voice control wheel, and say, “navigate home“. From that point into the future, I recognize these cues to immediately inform me of missing navigation instructions. Overall, the navigation system combined with FSD, if they surprise me at all, it is on the side of reasonable intuitive behaviour

[@margaretesulzberger2973]

17:50 very interesting comparing US, Chinese and German highways and driver conduct. He thinks the German highways are small with often times only 2 lanes and his hands were shaking already at 208 km/h. Perhaps he had the wrong car, because in good cars you get the impression becoming more stable above 180 km/h, Great, that we can experience an explorative CEO and nuanced thinker.

[@AndyKopac]

Most CEO’s wouldn’t be stupid enough to publicize drives like this.

[@xianyangzhu9317]

@@AndyKopac You think you are smarter than him?

[@nicholasglade4572]

China is winning the EV and full self driving race. They have brutal competition that forces fast innovation. In the states we have 100% tariffs to protect the lazy, overpaid union workers and bad management from out auto companies. So the result we can't have superior technology while China keeps innovating faster and faster.

[@natsidruk86]

China winning the fsd race😂

[@itsyo42]

China will have self driving mainstream before any country because they standardize road markings and signs to make it easy for computer to navigate

[@itsyo42]

​@@fredkite9330model 3 highland was designed by the Chinese Tesla team, Elon praised the Chinese culture that has a sense of urgency. Unlike America who keep their position by lobbying

[@DLHS92]

They also winning on phev, hybrid and erev

[@lincolntse4330]

China's strength is never on the innovation side, they always copy mainstream idea from the west and produce products that are much cheaper. As far as I can see all of the most innovative idea of the past 20 years comes from the west: 1:Smart phone(Apple) 2: Electric car+self driving(Tesla) 3: Reusable first stage rockets(space X) 4: machine learning (US: CNN, GPT...)

[@darylfortney8081]

I think without a destination and activated it just continues straight same as autopilot on a highway.

[@enoughofthis]

That is a bug, should not be driving without authorization

[@darylfortney8081]

@@enoughofthis he had FSD enabled and pressed the accelerator from a stop so implicitly it was authorized to drive

[@Ojames600]

What is the cost of Xpeng self-driving option ?. Does any self-driving feature comes standard on Xpeng cars ?

[@Tafsern]

They are standard in Europe, and you've got different specs in China.

[@shdmd2118]

@@Tafsern”Standard” just means you don’t get to chose it as option. Many cars sold outside of USA market like BMW or Mercedes are sold as fully loaded models , hence “standard”

[@SindhuArellano]

小鹏自动驾驶在中国是免费的，例如g9和g6，每辆车都有xngp自动驾驶

[@shdmd2118]

@@SindhuArellano 自駕的費用已經幫你加進去售車的價錢，你聽不懂嗎？ 你如果不相信你問他們說你不要自動駕駛可以減價嗎？他們一定說不可以。 特斯拉在美國也可以說車子一台45,000 ，免費自動駕駛 可是特斯拉讓有你有選擇，沒有自動駕駛38,000有自動駕駛45,000

[@SindhuArellano]

@@shdmd2118 但是你却要支付自动驾驶硬件的一切费用，你有选择不装这些摄像头的选择吗？而小鹏没有给你额外收费的情况下，价格是特斯拉的一半，我看你就是买了特斯拉的韭菜

[@eaojnr]

Product Managers in the west have in-depth understanding of what's happening around the world, they're not living in an isolated view of the world. So short answer, Elon already knows the performance of XOS 5.1.x. He listens, he gets insights. I have used both latest versions, if I score current FSD 3.8 out of 5, I score xNGP/AI-Driver something around 2/5. The latest version of xNGP/XOS 5.1.5 has some serious confidence issues. On mapped highways, xNGP does well, i score it around 3.5 out of 5, but that's using a G9 with Lidar/Radar/Camera fusion... and yet on Tesla FSD using only Camera, i am able to score it 4 out of 5 with very decisive actions, including evasive actions, preemptive corrective move etc. I can share the full list of comparison, objective one if you want.

[@Barna-xBr]

wow it will be nice , if you do so. Most comments here are from tesla experience.

[@gohkairen2980]

please do thanks

[@eaojnr]

​@@Barna-xBr sure! will start posting videos to share my candid experience as an owner/user.

[@EJFJ-Corporation]

If there is one take-over requested among 300 kilometers driven, it will be very difficult for the user to be totally prepared to be efficient at this moment. Security should be warrantied by the car, whatever happens, human beings should be able at any time to propose something else, not by taking-over but by proposing-over! Only the best (=== strict necessary benefitable to all alive beings) is legal. Doing things step by step as you did for XNGP is nice, but the FSD does not parts of situations as you do (No EJFJ Positive Contextualisation !) which requires ideally the identification of each specific object by few lanthanid atoms (Bill !T hypo-magnetic micro-chip).

[@Emm2004]

Word spaghetti

[@antoniogalvincarreno4908]

Cuando tendremos a la venta vuestros vehículos en España ?

[@steinmar2]

He must drive 12.4 or higher (:

[@shijunli]

One hand is enough to quite the nag, you need to give a little turning force but not actually turn it.

[@EJFJ-Corporation]

With EJFJ Positive Contextualisation, few lanthanid atoms illustrate a magnetic field in the direction of the street, allowing sensors to read the roads border and make the car turn as it can, conveniently, within the available space, by using if necessary on the X9 the back wheels direction but only when required and as it will be convenient to be used...

[@BongoWongoOG]

What you on about?

[@satay8167]

Why is Tesla driving without a direction? Very strange

[@darylfortney8081]

Mine did the same during my FSD trial. It was weird and a little unnerving

[@AlexWeiner]

@@darylfortney8081 It’s not strange at all to many Tesla drivers because it can be thought of as a fancy “cruise control”. When I’m driving normally and don’t have my destination marked I enable “cruise control” to continue driving forward. The only interesting thing there is how it decides whether to turn left or right when it cannot proceed straight though an intersection.

[@SuperchargedTravels]

Humans can drive without a destination, and so can FSD.

[@BongoWongoOG]

Its a feature. Lots of videos online with FSD driving without a destination. Just takes the passengers on a sight seeing tour lol

[@ML-qn8sb]

What is the email addresses of Mr. Xaipeng

[@ML-qn8sb]

Can I send an email to the Chairman Mr. Xiaoeng

[@JhaveriAakash]

Lol they uploaded this on the official channel

[@eaojnr]

yea... that's the advise of their media team... lol! They keep doing these marketing stunts like rookies it upsets me all the time.

[@etbadaboum]

@@eaojnr What's rookie about it? It's great.

[@alphaomega1969]

1:15 He must be thinking they are on level 2 and they don't even know it lol meanwhile XNGP is level 4 and Nio NOP+is level 4 lol

[@bthediff]

Where will Xpeng store their driving data? In the US or China?

[@Emm2004]

China of course.

[@directxxxx71]

Why would they do that in US since US ban their EVs let alone their self driving system

[@davidpearn5925]

Ist tip - don't eliminate YOUR stalks. China wins by default. Tesla is most definitely geofenced and America is no great challenge to start with.

[@Omega---13]

Tesla is not geofenced. It can be used anywhere

[@davidpearn5925]

@@Omega---13 not at a significant level in Britain or India for instance. Australia has thousands of KMs of unsealed roads.

[@gohkairen2980]

nope not geofenced but restricted to usa

[@davidpearn5925]

@@gohkairen2980 USA is a pushover.

[@williamwoo866]

A better experience with v13 With grok. V12 is still a new release with many more edge cases to resolve

[@gohkairen2980]

you've tried v13?

[@youfulife]

没人说中文吗

[@kumbackquatsta]

elon hasn't got the balls to do this

[@benjaminbostani6073]

Wtf you are talking about! He use it all the time! He's on unrealised version fsd 15!

[@tluangasailo3663]

he's busy back and forth managing tesla, spaceX, neuralink, twitter

[@kumbackquatsta]

@@tluangasailo3663 you meeting committing securities fraud

[@benjaminbostani6073]

@@tluangasailo3663 you think he dont drive from airports to work!

[@alphaomega1969]

He known his Tesla FSD is level 2 and Nio, Xpeng is level 4 lol

[@BennyKoay]

😂😂😂

[@gohkairen2980]

2:07 dude claims that fsd uses high precision mapping which is "高精地图" in Chinese which is not true as fsd only rely on google maps. how can xpeng ceo not know such basic stuff? just because you guys uses high precision mapping you think that tesla uses the same thing? if tesla fsd were to use high precision mapping for every round about, tesla will have to map every one of them in USA in order for it to work. claiming fsd uses high precision mapping just cause of a round about is plain stupidity.

[@obi-wankenobi5332]

garbage as usual 😂🤣