The Fall of Diablo 4 - Quin69 Reacts

[@TheGlobuleReturns]

It's commendable that Quin tries to be as neutral as possible. It's just a shame he fails at that endeavour so fantastically.

[@Chewie260]

ye, like 1 minute in all i could thing was "hard cope"

[@johannesvoss9880]

Every forking time LOLW

[@vvbvgeneraltsung2913]

"he wouldve solo'd the boss on his own anyways"@@dagowow

[@TheGlobuleReturns]

How do you know it's from an anime, oh edgelord with '666' in his pf cover p?@@dagowow

[@TheGlobuleReturns]

0:30 "He's taken it out of context, the lowest point of 400!" - The highest point there is about 2k with the avergae being aound 5-700. Currently, the viewerships sits at around 400, with the top streamer having 40 odd concurrent viewers. Unless a single streamer with a sizeable following streams it, 400-700 is a fair average number. Showing the graph that shows the lowest point, and showing that is it not far off the average, is objectively NOT out of context, but rather the opposite. Context is included and the number itself is fair. That's 1, within the first 30 seconds. Let me know if you are unable to identify any others and I'll be sure to come help you out. @@dagowow

[@jonmcfluffy9699]

"why do they want to give streamer's early access?" that is honestly a great question. i saw early access streams of starfield and went "holy shit it looks boring" and then didnt get it.

[@jackwood1142]

yup. same. i was going to pre order the next day. never did.

[@Psycorde]

Same reason press does. To bait them with special treatment and make it harder to speak negatively about it, putting that relationship and future access for risk. You did watch it, steamer benefitted from the deal, and they'd like to keep it that way going forward.

[@kendalljones5540]

I love that they give streamers early access. Its much better than only IGN or other similar corporate intetests being the sole one's to comment on a game before release.

[@claytonmontague4837]

With all that said millions of players logged in to play season 1 and millions of players are going to log in again when season 2 drops so is it really a dead game?

[@ImKong]

That's a low percentage of people I'd assume. Most people would be more inclined to pre-ordering the game with this strategy (I can assume, I mean that's why publicity works).

[@stereorich]

Blizzard racking up L's like Quin does every season in HCSSF, D4 Bad Baseg

[@elliottbradshaw6856]

I see Quinn's canister of copium is almost empty. Keep huffing it, you'll get there eventually.

[@Tordey1]

D4 = Bad Quin69 = Fat

[@illustrukarma]

D4 Bad Baseg

[@Mezer_PoE]

D4 = Bad Quin69 = Rat

[@clyp3016]

This comment=Baseg

[@detuneCris]

BAZZEG

[@daemonreaderx]

Baseg HOLY

[@handsomebear.]

Every time Quin says _"what people actually thought/did was X"_ what he means is _"I thought/did X"._ He's screaming about this video being biased because what is said doesn't perfectly align with Quins experience of how the game was...aka Quin is just projecting. Not to mention he's an unrepentant contrarian. Before he saw the endgame he just had to keep saying _"it'll be fine, d4 will be good, just wait and see"_ 😂 You could tell the game would be a marketing extravaganza and nothing else from the first cinematic. The Disney esque, teen friendly, _"darkness"_ and characters whos intentions are so easy to understand that you'd _literally_ have to be developmentally challenged to not follow whats happening. The _only_ hype part of it was Lilith apearing from the membrane. This was confirmed in the beta...anyone who thought d4 was going to be anything but d3.5 after that was delusional. There is no innovation whatsoever, there is no soul in the story, the gameplay is bland, the classes are bland, the _"darkness"_ is just spiders and blood and body parts wrapped in Disney friendly stories and scenarios. _The core of the game_ is designed to sell copies on launch and then milk console clowns who play 3h a week, morons who unironically batchest with their kids at seeing blood and spider webs. Nothing more and nothing less. D4 bad, forever.

[@gundamnit3594]

This almost made me spit out my breast milk. Almost.

[@KingoftheJiangl]

All milk is from breasts xd

[@brandonhoffman4712]

Stolen breast milk

[@gundamnit3594]

@@brandonhoffman4712 Woah now anything in the break room fridge is free game.

[@Althandan]

What is funnier some streamers playing Diablo2 on Twitch put their stream in Retro category, yet it still has more viewers than D4

[@rustyking23able]

what's funny about this guy, is I commented on one of his videos before d4 came out and i said d4 will only last 6 months. He wasn't happy and responded but looks like I was pretty accurate.

[@Jizzlewobbwtfcus]

Prophet Rusty

[@tr1bes]

Most game depreciated after 6 months. Some games were junk after 1 month.

[@GodNuVo]

@@tr1bes Good ARPG get bigger after 12year's !

[@tr1bes]

@@GodNuVoNo. there will always be something else to replace it. It's a never ending cycle. When i mean depreciated, i mean in $$$.

[@GGGG-uq7zo]

This game was dead with the season 1..... They wanted you to farm malignant hearts for 3 months with the little content? such a boring game after u lvl up to 70@@tr1bes

[@ckviper1337]

"I'm gonna let him cook instead of pausing the video and talking." >Proceeds to pause the video and talk.

[@moonasha]

i mean if you don't pause and talk during a react, it's basically just stealing someone else's hard work

[@Kazeshini11]

@@moonasha Or just hear me out here, you can do like many do and listen to the entire thing, take notes if needed if your memory is that of a gold fish and at the end, transform it all as you addressing what you saw, going back to make sure and all that good stuff. This is just the lazy way of reacting but not the laziest of course. That crown is reserved for xQc and SSSniperwolf.

[@zzxxccvv01]

​@@moonashaimagine thinking it's stealing content LOLW

[@omensoffate]

@@zzxxccvv01it is

[@jmagnum69]

It's funny how they wanted to build the game similarly to Diablo 2, but they didn't take a page out of Diablo 2's book when it comes to items. Most classes had 1 unique item per item slot. So for example, a Druid could only get Penitent Greaves. So any time a druid sees unique boots drop, they already know what it will be. Now compare that to Diablo 2 where a druid would have 13 options for unique boots, and that's not even counting the set items which are just as powerful. The druid set boots in particular are a bis option for a lot of classes. That's just boots. There are 37 UNIQUE CHEST PIECES in Diablo 2. That's 37 options for just uniques, not counting set items. Compared again to Diablo 4 where nearly every class just has 1 unique chest option. That is the problem. Plain and simple. Players, myself included were assuming that all the uniques were coming in Season 1, but they did not, so the game died instantly, especially after the season mechanic turned out to be some 0.005% effort mini-mechanic.

[@mesuttekkaya8168]

essaying

[@jmagnum69]

@@mesuttekkaya8168 sorry, D4 bad

[@ToyokaX]

Indeed, I've read that itemization is possibly one of the worst parts of D4. The least they could have done to curb the crappy drops is give more ways to craft gear rather than just retreading the same ground as D3.

[@bobbobb5759]

Fascinating, you've just read about and watch videos about, but never played it? what a gloriously weird waste of time. lel@@ToyokaX

[@ToyokaX]

@@bobbobb5759 Huh? I played the game, thank you very much. Just because I didn't know how bad things really were doesn't mean I haven't experienced it myself. Couldn't put it into words until I read about *why* the game was so bad. Keep sniffing that copium, bobby.

[@steamavila1818]

issue with these companies doing shit things like this are people like Quin, people that just give them the benefit of the doubt all the time and keep them alive, fanbois are the main issue, these companies know 100% the fanbois will empty the wallets for them no matter what.

[@iitzrubz]

He's just being honest, what wrong with that?

[@andreasc.2182]

@@iitzrubz I don´t know how players in other countries act or how they build their personal references. I am an old gamer, i still know a lot of people from the 2000s up to now that all loved the old blizzard titles, but we are already burned childs from the diablo 3 desaster, most of the old crew played the d4 open beta and all of us got already bored after 3-4 hours loosing all hope for a franchise comeback. No one preordered or bought the game. So the only thing that still makes me wonder is what unteachable type of person still clings so hard on that franchise that i for myself sadly already declared lost.

[@SYG_Aegis]

throw anyone who pre-orders video games in there as well.

[@aersla1731]

It is what it is, there's really nothing we can do but laugh.

[@Jizzlewobbwtfcus]

Indeed. What will it take for people to learn Blizzard won't change.

[@David-ml5tm]

Activision-Blizzard always inflated sales and subs through China on both WOW and Diablo.

[@MrBarbarian01]

You were saying that Blizzard did not intentionally do the battlepass bonuses that were "bugs" I don't think it was a bug for the gold cost to go up on things. I don't think it was a bug that they nerfed drops/exp/dmg by almost ~40% across the board and then magically a battlepass comes out to grind your way back to getting 8% of it back. I don't think it was a bug that they used the dark tunnel for ACTIVATING the battlepass.. i mean it went RIGHT to the option and didn't even confirm when other companies have been sued over this! The game is in BETA and we all know it, needs another 2 years of development. It'll be half way decent and hopefully not dog shit by season 28, just like Diablo 3.

[@flipnshifty]

There's a lot more dumb shit he said, or stuff that directly contradicts himself 2 sentences later, dont even bother bro.

[@Wolfie1_]

ive watched the entire video already. D4 bad

[@Moms_Spaghetti]

When latest D3 season came with a paragon cap and a ssf mode and a decently fun seasonal mechanic it just highlights how hard blizzard blundered everything. D3 could have been so much better and more alive with attention like this YEARS ago, before 95% of people had permanently given up on it, and now the new flagship D4 doesn't have nearly the same amount of QoL and features as D3 anyway D4 bad Baseg

[@ToyokaX]

Considering how much time and effort they put into D4 while squandering D3 and yet we see how things turned out for D4, really paints an ugly picture about what's been going on at Blizzard, behind closed doors if they couldn't muster up a decent successor with over 9000 people being involved in this damned game.

[@Jizzlewobbwtfcus]

WTF does Baseg mean? Im seeing everyone use that word all of a sudden

[@MrDream-ep4il]

Base game i think@@Jizzlewobbwtfcus

[@piyoweb]

9/24 Sun afternoon, 646 viewers for D4.

[@aaallllen]

The gaming community has let companies get away w/ being able to release incomplete games. Maybe the money is there to just release early or selling expansions that fix issues. Wolcen had the bug where you couldn't kill the final boss. Cyberpunk had tech issues. D4 needed more time.

[@lucylucian2564]

cyberpunk board of directors forced the developers to release the game early, devs said they needed 2 more years on the game, they didnt want to release and knew it would suck.

[@Jizzlewobbwtfcus]

Indeed. Also the heads of each department weren't doing proper QC on their outsourced work.@@lucylucian2564

[@Vashiro]

I sadly spent 100 dollars, by accident activated my pass, then decided to use the boost. leveled to 40 and ... logged out, uninstalled. D4 is truly the disappointment of this year. :S Very close to Starfield. - Good react video Quontin, better than expected but damn, you really did shill a few times for D4, you can't deny that unless it was for show and the D4 fanbois in your chat to not alienate them. Churrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr brother

[@Thor8Clips]

I did the exact same, haven't touched it in a month

[@yorshabelmont]

100$ HAHA i think its hilarious how many people let their money be burned, the same people buying D4 for this price crack Elden Ring or Baldurs Gate. Hope it hurts dumbass

[@zzxxccvv01]

​@@sdotwallacecope, starshit is competing for the worst AAA game release this year(with forspoken)

[@retrosimon9843]

@@sdotwallace If i am locked in a room with nothing to play other than Startrash and D4. I'm playing D4.

[@amaurys93]

I bought the pass hoping for more out of the season and didn’t get past lvl 20 on two characters. I preferred playing on My eternal character and leveling glyphs over the seasonal caged heart mechanics. I understand Your pain in a sort of way

[@flipnshifty]

Quintradictory is back bois

[@Emajenus]

"Randomly popoff and make an OK game" - describes exactly how low our expectations are of Blizz.

[@Erk-o]

I'd say d2 is relevant

[@sephrinx4958]

Wait, when was this "rise" at? Diablo 4 was dead on arrival lmao

[@fade9004]

Quin played D4 about 10x longer than he played POE ToTA League.

[@Darkspawn6666]

League is very good so mr. contrarian had to quit early because he is shit at the game (bugged)

[@Jansmaaa]

D4 had that two subs get a mount deal going on. You gotta work the iron while its hot.

[@detuneCris]

bc he had a sponsored stream lmao, the moment that went away, he stopped playing and said D4 bad

[@LadaHusakLH]

It's not about the lack of content... D2 has minimal end game content, yet it's still played over 20 years after release. The BIGGEST issue is that itemisation in D4 is an absolute skunk shit. There is 0 chance of D4 getting better if they won't scrap all the items and totally remake them and all the itemisation systems to something entertaining, interesting, rewarding, wanting us to replay even the same content over and over. Then they can add end game contet, which will make it even more enjoyable.

[@michaelgrinius479]

D4 Bad

[@deceiver444]

Legit statement

[@tarkatta8470]

The amount of times you said "that was just a bug" is beyond acceptable. If ppl are right to dismiss cyberpunk apply that same energy to D4.

[@vail2367]

Only quin and asmon can make a 30 min video into 1 hour ICANT

[@sanquineo]

youcan and you did.

[@Furious321]

If they don't pause and discuss the video content, then it isn't transformative and fucks over the original uploader's channel. Are you new to this concept?

[@grilledleeks6514]

oh look. another person with the same comment. Another npc spotted boys!

[@BR0therH00Dx0FxL1F3]

Idk if this is a hot take, but PEAK D4 was the server slam getting to level 20 and trying to kill Ashava before it ended. That boss music and fight was 10/10 at the time and got my hyped for the game. If they somehow captured that moment and made the game around that it would have been great.

[@Matt-gf4gd]

It had moments of greatness. I feel like it was 70% of a great game. A lot of what's there is great, but it just feels unfinished and sort of shallow or hollow.

[@jbassguy571]

Probably right, but even in the server slam weekends the open world was super sus. Like within 20 seconds of entering the map at level 1 the place is overrun with deer and squirrels and raccoons and shit. More deer than Fallen lol. Major red flags there and it never got better...

[@Dingovff]

Reacts for 3hours everyday cuz he is washed and still to this day he defends blizzard in case of another mount sponsorship in furture..fail.

[@zzxxccvv01]

how so?

[@cwj157]

im here to see more L takes by quin

[@DrunkTalk]

Knew shit was off since the paid beta weekend and they didn't have a HUD map when you pressed tab. That told me none of the 9000 employees that made the game have ever played an ARPG...

[@XvoseEthereal]

"malignant tunnel inspection" quin strikes again, and i have died of laughter hahahahah

[@1999evo]

quins absolute dedication to support the opposite of whats mainstream is really entertaining

[@aersla1731]

He is a contrarian lol but it's pretty fun to watch. And sometimes, he does say stuff that are true, even if it's just to get people to hate watch him or whatever.

[@Adrenochromian]

I respect the court jester in all debates and contentions. They are needed.

[@Nikotoh]

I had a great experience when it initially launched. Only like 1-2 quests were bugged, nothing that bad overall. Looking at clips/videos bashing the game was weird because I had no idea the issues were that big.

[@Glowhetic]

C O P E

[@zestylem0n]

Always sus when a game hides their endgame in promo material. Like great, when you have zero attack speed and fight 3-5 enemies at a time the game looks neat, but that has zero bearing on how the game scales into higher levels which is where the majority of time will be spent for customers willing to buy mtx or battle passes or whatever. Lo and behold, D4 comes out and people realise that the endgame is non-existent and the devs did zero work to create a robust and deep endgame players could aspire to.

[@chirho8657]

Quin shows copium is 10x more lethal compared to fentanyl

[@Caen-MK]

I had way more fun playing Wolcen than I ever did playing D4. No bullshit. Fell asleep during D4 beta twice, cancelled pre-order, uninstalled beta, and got popcorn for the drama.

[@Pvt_Hudson]

"is D2 relevant?" of course it fucking is, it will be until the end of time. PoE would not exist in it's current form if it wasn't for D2. Show a little respect to your forefathers.

[@vvbvgeneraltsung2913]

The way quin tried to justify the Blizzard SA allegations at 21:02 with a comparison of other SA incidents in other entertainment fields is enough cope and simpiness to fuel a multiverse. Be better Quin Be better

[@Peanutfiendsblog]

My wife and I quit about 2 months after the WOW token. It demolished solo grinding/farming for gold and made the game completely P2W. Garbage game.

[@iMANTlS]

It'll be too late when Quin realizes, actually there are evil people in this world who exploit people for money at least. Ironically, that's how many companies/studios have died. But first, maybe he needs to work on a real job to face these people.

[@franekfranek4741]

Im not disappointed in D4 because i didnt buy it. I am however disappointed in the gaming community that after all what blizzard has done still decided to blindly buy that pile of crap. Blizzard made their buck. I am honestly astonished that they still try to save it. I would expect them to shrug their shoulders and call it a day.

[@Nyafrit]

In my opinion immortal is a pretty good game for a mobile/pc crossplay gacha with some of the best events/pvp in the genre (nowadays a lot of balanced pvp events). The shetstorm with immortal was so strong imo bc of the way they presented it considering that the blizzcons audience are pc gamers. If they wouldve at least prepped some screenshots for d4 and been like "hey we have this mobile game made with the diablo IP for you to pass the time untill d4 is here" then it wouldve been an amazing blizzcon.

[@hmr1122]

D2R killed modding support and LAN, if that's a W for you you deserve the games nu-blizz makes today.

[@RiceaxeGaming]

Bold takes. I think Blizzard will abandon D4 just like they did with WC3. Blizzard is not Project Red. They´ll just make D5.

[@Matt-gf4gd]

They're probably already working on the next Diablo project, but it takes years to produce. In the meantime, their interest is to keep D4 relevant in hopes of generating sales of expansions and micro transactions.

[@RiceaxeGaming]

what sales? If their first few expansions or bigger sales flop completely they will abandon it 100%. Then again some fans might go for it, hard to tell. Im surprised every time, they get away with these pricetags.

[@melissasven8087]

also they are already in the top most sold games in history... they don't need to fix anything. They could wait a year, put out a bad expansion and get another payout

[@Matt-gf4gd]

@@RiceaxeGaming well that remains to be seen. For me it'll depend on how much improvement they make to the core game on whether I'll pay for an expansion or not, but that's just reality: they made a live service game, so they're going to/planning to try and keep generating revenue from D4 in the meantime.

[@draken4o]

I was in the early access endgame beta. Played a lot. And all the problems Quin mentioned were there. The bad itemisation, The lack of endgame goals to pursuit, the boring paragon board, the pseudo "tier sets" presented via legendary aspects with the illusion of choice. All that was visible. and i personally wrote it as a feedback. Even made a lot of suggestions how to improve things. (im also in the gaming industry so i know thing or two) Nothing changed. We got pretty much 99% of that beta on release. (edit.. oh i remember one good thing that was on the endgame beta. The uber uniques actually excisted. Still rare but.. it was excited to pick up uniques... compared to.. now)

[@OlafKnolaf]

I want to confirm that the breast milk has in fact been stolen. It was me. I want to apologize to all the people I have hurt and disappointed and to the baby, except my mother.

[@Jizzlewobbwtfcus]

LOL

[@mzza]

Haven't bough a blizzard game since SC2. Haven't bought an EA game since BF4. Haven't bought an Activision game since MW2. Haven't bought a Bethesda game since Skyrim. Haven't bought an Ubisoft game since FC4. And I got all of those from a sale.

[@peteraasa5267]

Blizzard where the best game company ever. , so how could it go this wrong. Greed.

[@llVIU]

the sexual assault ALLEGATIONS had zero proof as far as I've seen. I've disliked blizzard for a myriad of other reasons and personal experience with actual proof. The allegations were at the height of feminism, and I heard so many false accusations all the time, they hold no weight.

[@Sicktoid]

2:45 even funnier than D2 having more viewers is that somehow Heroes of the Storm had more viewers at that moment! Blizzard literally killed that game years ago, yet somehow it was still generating more interest than D4.

[@chiefkikyerass7188]

Let's face the facts people...the beta tester content creators were paid lots $$$$ money to push this garbage...that's the facts

[@ElitePortraits]

the amount of time that we spend talking about money and bad performance is so much superior to the time we spend playing decent games. So gaming industry for me is over. Finally showed up its true nature, after 20 years.

[@arturo_cruz]

the weird thing is that many of the remade games would be successes if they just made them in new game engines and not change the mechanics at all. yet EVERY time they fuck it up. Many of us like the old games its just they've become dated graphically.

[@riner9]

I made $500 off the D3 RMAH before refunding the game.

[@Gijontin]

Attributes Diablo franchise to Blizzard and not Condor studio "Blizzard North" at the start of video, instant L

[@YunalaiEmpress]

Man when i think Back to the pain and boredom of playing d4 i am Just so Happy that Poe exists. Hearing "renown" and "Altars of Lilith" makes me want to vomit...

[@ohyea456]

Always remember, Wudijo said the endgame was good and had the game a month before release.

[@MattyBudzzz]

2 reasons I stopped playing and caring about D4. 1. I worked 28 days straight in July making good money and was living out of town in some motel, and on a ship for some time. Caught up on reading thoug. 2. Baldurs Gate 3 came out. Since BG3 I played Starfield for maybe 20 hours, Pathfinder WOTR for 30 hours, new cyberpunk update for an hour, and... back to BG3 again.

[@bd9045]

Cool dood no body cares

[@Jansmaaa]

When people ask your parents how you are doing your parents change the subject.@@bd9045

[@tarasouthwell6132]

Dude, I caught a guy trying to steal my breast milk at work, no joke. It's a weird fetish thing. Whether that specific incident happened at Blizzard, idk, but it happens. All that aside, theComebackKids completely missed the boat entirely on what it was that made players desert D4: progression and combat feel. What I found myself doing was accruing an entirely new set of gear and paragon points before making the swap/allocating the points to get that dopamine rush of finally making headway against the mobs. I was also fighting mobs I was way under leveled for to simulate the kind of progression I was craving. I also found myself getting increasingly frustrated with resource and cool down management, because a lot of the reductions are RNG based (and God help you if it's some lucky hit bullshit) and I could never settle into a rhythm with my build. In PoE and D3, the best part of getting the core setup done for your build is that you stop having to consciously think about how your build works, your muscle memory takes over, and you can then focus entirely on what the mobs are doing. You guys will have to tell me if this is true of PoE, because I've only played a few leagues, but I know for sure in D3 that *any* mobility skill will break CC on your character, and in D4 this is quite obviously not the case. In other words, it never feels like your build has come together, or that it ever can. Now let's talk about a game that's actually good besides PoE: Elden Ring. The combat feel and progression of Elden Ring are some of, if not the most, satisfying in gaming history. You start out with a pathetic character that can barely do anything and end up a god slayer, and as you progress through the zones, you naturally find smaller objectives to work toward, whether it's getting the stat requirements to use a new weapon or spell, beating a boss that wiped his ass with you the first time, figuring out how to get the item you can see from the distance, progressing a quest line, etc. And as you meet those challenges, not only does your character get stronger, but you learn more, you gain more tools to solve problems, and become more skillful at the game, so that the next difficulty spike doesn't feel like bullshit. And yes, they reuse mobs, but they add mobs and give mobs new abilities to keep things fresh, and FromSoft's main bosses are the stuff of legend. PoE isn't better than D3 or D4 because it's more complex: it's better because the systems give you large goals made up of smaller goals that are achievable, and when you achieve them, result in progression you can feel, and the mobs keep getting harder not just in terms of numbers but in terms of mechanics to learn, but it doesn't feel bad because you can still apply what you've already learned, and you feel skillful tackling the new challenge with all the tools you've accrued throughout your play through. People are bored of D4 because they aren't getting their dopamine fix on time. It's as simple as that.

[@omensoffate]

You still supplying?

[@vilemuse]

@@omensoffate 😭😭😭

[@blizzero96]

quin talking about streaming is hard and everything, while Instability is running the stream in the backround.

[@WhatIfTheories]

Solitaire is a better game then D4. Lets be real. D4 is a 4/10 game at best. It's definitely a dead game and even if you add content that won't fix it. This is way bigger of an issue then just content.

[@sohya_bean]

The title of the video is wrong, Diablo 4 never rose 😂

[@billdewall6152]

Anyone who bought D4 and is now saying they'll never buy another blizzard game is deluded. If you hadn't wised up by D4, you were never gonna wise up. Your resolve will evaporate the second the next Blizzard title is launched. I look forward to hearing all of you say the exact same thing when that game sucks too. Keep those wallets handy, paypiggies.

[@turbanheadless]

i knew this was going to happen. i saw it from a mile and never bothered donating the money to blizz. i win

[@Jizzlewobbwtfcus]

Smart. Same here. The ones of us who have learnt our lessons funding the lax attitude of game development in the past can move on. The fanboys will never be able to see past their own desires for what these modern games companies truly are.

[@turbanheadless]

@@Jizzlewobbwtfcus sadly this is why we have very few quality games. Because they dont need to make a quality game to make lots of money. So it is a bit painful to watch people to fall for this, at least for me

[@DaRkBluELoRd]

Mr,Krabs money money money money money money money ( $ . $ )

[@ggRengar]

30 min video, 1 hour reaction video. classic

[@arcc4]

Quin doesn't understand that D4's content problem is the systemic result of its underlying poor design choices and not simply a matter of developers needing more time. For example, if PoE's loot pool worked how D4's did then it too would have massive content problems as most of the league content would become obsolete and irrelevant. Everything would effectively boil down to spamming what dropped the largest volume of high tier loot. No one would make character builds to do uber bosses if they lacked a high value/demand unique loot table. Also, D4 has another problem on the other side of the coin with its character systems and itemization. It's so top-down heavy that Blizzard devs are never going add meaningful additions to skills and items until an expansion. The whole reason PoE got to where to this point is due to it being bottom-up design with its tag system. GGG can basically plug-in-play skills, supports, items, and passive updates all with compounding effect on customization. D4 devs literally to add one skill that is useable have to integrate an update to a skill tree, add new items/aspects for power augmentations, and update the itemization affixes all for a fixed single build option for one class.

[@vex2538]

You should learn about "agile", which is the methadology most dev companies have addopted. I think its part of the problem of a lot of these companies shipping an unfinished product time and time again.

[@liarwithagun]

I have some experience with coding and development methodologies. The Agile method isn't the reason. It literally just means "Make it as you go and adjust plans" rather than the Waterfall method which is "Plan literally everything down to the tiniest detail and never deviate from that plan even when it turns out bad". The real reason is that the companies want to make as much money with as little effort as possible. Game companies realized people would grudgingly buy unfinished or low quality products. So that's what they do now.

[@Mr.VinceKeK]

This React META is gay AF

[@Creamouz]

For someone who says he doesn't trust Blizzard, he trusts Blizzard a lot

[@angel38618]

I feel like Quinn loves d4 like many do, but just overwhelmed by the backlash of sheeps

[@grilledleeks6514]

yeah all 1400 of you

[@MrMollusk7]

"D4 has a bright future" isnt cooked, its cremated

[@danw3735]

I'm glad these shit companies are getting canned and losing all their money. It's pretty simple, you put out trash you will cop the pain. Same as any AAA dev.

[@Fullautomania]

i loved it till lvl 80 to 90 because lvl 90 i stopped playing got me fucked up with how slow leveling was

[@Porknbeans419]

I'll check it out again in like season 4 when it's actually closer to the game that it should have been at launch. And if it's still not done, I'll check back around season 8. Plenty of other games to play until then.

[@grymdawg]

Everyone who play tested this game mentioned the stash tab.

[@Torbero47]

Crazy I'm still playing Starfield with no end in sight if content... 🤷🏾

[@Matt-gf4gd]

The video was just painting the downfall perspective. It's not the whole story, but it's also not inaccurate. I stepped away from gaming for a while after growing up playing Warcraft 2/3, Diablo 1/2 and StarCraft. The last blizzard game I'd played prior to Diablo 4 was StarCraft 2. I felt like Diablo 4 was like 70-80% of a great game. It had a lot of fun systems and a great vibe/setting/design. Unfortunately after a couple months of being obsessed, I lost interest due to the lack of any compelling end game content or replayability. I can only speak to my experience with D4, but it did feel disappointing, but not because it was bad, but because it was so good, but felt unfinished and misguided. I really hope that somehow blizzard can get some better leadership and be given the resources, autonomy and time it needs to make the game that Diablo 4 should have been, though I do fear those days are behind us now with Activision and Microsoft owning the company.

[@jackwood1142]

listening to quinn backtrack on being a shill for d4 for about a month is soo...well...quin.

[@SitKid721]

They only ever made 2 good Diablo games D2 and D2R. D4 LOLW

[@Magnus-q7g]

Diablo 4 promised more than No Man's Sky, but No Man's Sky still somehow provided more. And No Man's Sky has overdelivered on content since and are still pumping, Diablo 4 however it's not even trying to crawl out of it's own grave, it just digs deeper.

[@d3filer]

It's not worth giving it unnecessary attention now, as you know Diablo will return with a future season or expansion for sure.

[@cp1011986]

I'm playing d3 currently. Not planning to buy d4, I will try poe or Poe 2 before. I am a diablo fan, but diablo immortal blew the franchise out of the water for me.

[@Worick_]

Diablo immortal even has better content than D4 lol

[@deceiver444]

D4 lackluster content had me try PoE two weeks ago. Never coming back. PoE shreds D4 in absolutely every department (except visuals)

[@zydian_]

Study and making deadlines for 3-5 years then work for a company which is basically a condenced dictatorship, having to go their at set hours and getting nowhere near as what you should be payed for (you got hired in the first place bcs they know they make profit out of you) =/= your job, which is opposite of everything I mentioned in the former. If you think those are the same and a 10 hour work day is the same in both situations you're straight up ignorant.

[@chemtrail5292]

Developers need to stop asking the community what they want in the game as if they will be able to please everyone!! Thats the problem, developers should get some balls and make the calls, build the game the way you see fit, sell it as you intended to make it and if the community dosnt like it dont play it but damn developers get some FN balls your the developers not us!!! Plus D4 say its multi player whith no raids no LFG TRADE SELL OR LOOKING FOR CHAT OPTIONS, imagine a game were the multi play is following your friends around who are all at diffrent lvl's all doing there own thing and then call it a multi player game REALLY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[@lugzgaming5074]

Quin talking shit about D4 AFTER he shilled for them during the Horse Drops sponsorship. What a snake in the grass.

[@xsaviour755]

i don't mind if they make d4 a d3.5 style end game. just put a leaderboard already so i can start farming 3% incremental dmg increase on my gear. I'm not even exaggerating

[@plo1T-]

Time to play Solo-Self Found boys!

[@omgwat]

I agree completely with Quin on this one. This video is completely hyperbolic through and through. The only shocking thing is that player counts are down 99%. There's no arguing: they dropped the ball hard. But come on. Really stretching the narrative here.

[@CabbageYe]

Down 99% according to who. Where that guy even get the number

[@chedisLoL]

A number without a source is a number without merit. Considering that many twitter posts for specifically D4 get more than 400k interactions, just shows that this number is hog wash.

[@cuhullin3539]

If you type "diablo 4 peak concurrent players" in google search, at the very top it says 6.7 mil at peak and now it's 42k daily, but that figure seems to be inconsistent with other sources (which put the current number between 200 to 400k). If you click on the article which gives those above figures, they do not cite their source (naturally). Dogshit "journalism" at its finest. Makes for great clickbait tho.

[@VividFlash]

​@@chedisLoLi never played diablo and click the d4 bad videos

[@parabpbpbp]

people dont play d4 anymore but they are staying for the drama. wouldnt be suprised at all if its 99% cause i used to play with 20 people and none of them are active anymore including myself

[@MrX-po2kj]

No way is d4 better than starfield bro. That's cope

[@deceiver444]

Starfield ain't that great but still miles better than D4

[@PoorDummIdiots]

First make lvling not a job , fuck me I want to hit 100 without putting `100hrs a week for just 10 lvls.

[@Jizzlewobbwtfcus]

I don't get why you keep calling him biased. He's citing multiple reasons for the game's failure. Sure lack of content is one of the biggest reasons but it's not the only one so he did a good job.

[@w_419]

"This video is bias" said the pot to the kettle.

[@Ryukujin93]

Diablo 3 was my last Blizz game. Unless something miracious happens i am not buy Blizz game again.

[@pentapandamusic]

"Biggest disappointment in gaming history" is exaggerated for sure. A lot of aspects of the game (sound design, animation, fx, graphics...) definitely have merits. The shortage is game design.

[@johnturtle6649]

lol, apparently quinn hasn't met anyone like me. when a gaming franchise goes woke or becomes predatory I leave and don't go back. They never see a cent of money in the *first fucking place* unless they prove themselves to me. We've all been scammed by pre orders, the only difference with me is I learned the lesson.

[@tonygunk86]

I quit after 10 hours, I was very bored. I was pretty disappointed.

[@TimothyMorigeau]

From the people’s reactions I’ve seen they’re weren’t too concerned about the sexual harassment and abuse allegations.