Radio recording of Lightning XR769 crashing after engine fire 5 miles off Spurn Point 11.4.88
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@riffraff6506Ай бұрын
Enthralling much appreciated. I moved to Cranfield in the mid eighties one day eight lightning’s appeared six single seaters and two twin seaters beat up the airfield and landed I looked out at them everyday waiting for a repeat performance it never happened , I watched as the engines of the six single seaters were pulled out and the airframes were cut up and carted away in tippers I believe one of the two seaters is now in south Africa and the last twin seaters is now parked 100 yds from my bedroom window it’s fully maintained and during the summer bangs up and down the runway
@davidstewart54523 жыл бұрын
Crashed into the North Sea five miles off Easington, Humberside after an inflight fire. The RAAF exchange pilot (Flt Lt. Dick Coleman) ejected safely. At least twenty four Lightnings have been lost due to inflight fires. This was the last Lightning to be lost in RAF service
@andydwill Жыл бұрын
Easington is Durham County
@alanwright5492 Жыл бұрын
I lived grew up in Stowmarket, not far from RAF Wattisham. Loved seeing and hearing the Lightning's and Phantoms. Would cycle from Stow as a kid to watch them from a crash gate directly opposite where the war memorial now is. Oh to be able to go back to those days.
@ianmangham457010 ай бұрын
Great days
@philpettit35233 жыл бұрын
This is quite spine chilling to listen to. I was on shift with XI Sqn Binbrook on the day this happened. I remember seeing Dick Coleman after he returned and the only noticeable injury was a black eye. I didn't realise that Ian Black was on scene and witnessed the chain of events unfold. Sad to hear the demise of a great workhorse and great that the survival equipment worked to protect Dick. Thank you for posting this dramatic audio.
@Radio4782 жыл бұрын
Chin up
@georgeackerman908 жыл бұрын
Glad to hear that the pilot was ok. Thanks for the posting.
@nearlyretired64407 жыл бұрын
the guy flying this aircraft was an RAAF exchange pilot. He flew Mirages in the RAAF and is one hell of a pilot. I had the pleasure of working on the same squadron with him in the mid 80's.
@julianneale61286 жыл бұрын
Nearly Retired yes, I work with loads of Aussies and picked his accent up straight away. I'll bet he's got a few stories to tell at the pub...
@dannycochrane43303 жыл бұрын
You must have been at Binbrook at the same time as me
@deltaburn Жыл бұрын
Knew Dick in the RAAF, and had him on my crew in QANTAS. Knew he did an exchange, he never mentioned tossing away a Lightning
@CAVBOY8011 жыл бұрын
Thanks for releasing this recording, it's really interesting listening to the events as they unfold.
@bobdylan71202 жыл бұрын
I was based at RAF Wattisham in the early 70's with 111 and 29 Squadrons. I was only there for 18 months but, during that time, we lost 4 aircraft. Two collided over the North Sea (one pilot lost), one caught fire during take-off (scrapped his Ventral Tank along the runway) and crashed in a field just outside Sudbury and the other engaged the barrier. They used to say, "if you want to make some money, buy a field in Suffolk and wait for a Lightning to land in it".
@sidv46152 жыл бұрын
how does one scrape the fuel tank on the ground? and that too while taking off?
@bobdylan71202 жыл бұрын
@@sidv4615 They were practicing for an open day air show and taking off 4 at a time. Lightning pilots had a habit of selecting undercarriage UP before they even started rolling, relying on the Weight On Wheels switches to stop activation. However, this meant that the split second the weight began to lift off the oleos the undercarriage would start to travel up. It made for very impressive take offs. On this occasion they all began to lift off at the same time but number 2 drifted directly behind number 1 which pushed his aircraft back down towards the runway. His undercarriage was already higher than the lowest part of the fuselage (the ventral tank) so he scrapped it along the tarmac. The tank ruptured and the escaping fuel exploded in a ball of flame.
@sidv46152 жыл бұрын
@@bobdylan7120 oh I get it now. It seems as if fighter pilots have a habit of retracting the landing gear early. There was this F-22 pilot who did the same thing, took of too early, immediately retracted the gear, wasn’t going fast enough ended up hitting the ground and ruining a $200 Million national asset. Also you said that you were stationed their in the 70s. If you don’t mind me asking, How old are you sir.
@stephenking92712 жыл бұрын
I am correct in saying the pilot survived as the lightning came to rest in a field. He left the Lightning squadron & joined the Vulcan squadron. The fuel that escaped was ignited by the reheat & the Lightning following to take off had to commit to his take off & get going.
@bobdylan71202 жыл бұрын
@@sidv4615 I was18 at the time, straight out of two years training at Cosford.
@Back2TheBike2 жыл бұрын
Fascinating. I was walking across Warton aerodrome when the last Lightning left in the 1980s. Late October I think, salmon pink sky, absolutely clear. Full reheat and straight up. Later, after a career change I started a training business. One of my delegates on a course at a motor factors company told me he and his mates had bought the aircraft for £6000 off the MoD. It now lives at Bruntingthorpe.
@ianmangham457010 ай бұрын
Amazing
@johnnydiamondsmusic16735 жыл бұрын
This was 30 years ago and stupid people moaning there’s no live footage. It’s facinating just listening to the audio.
@johnshooter28262 жыл бұрын
Ignore the crayon munchers in the comments it's nearly time for their tablets.
@cryptohunt2552 Жыл бұрын
Listening to this with headphones on makes you feel you are right in the thick of it.
@08Barclay3 жыл бұрын
Well done Andy. For those with a modicum of understanding, this is priceless!
@Radio4782 жыл бұрын
Absolutely
@ericdenyer42935 жыл бұрын
In my opinion BEST FAST JET of its time.
@PhantomMark3 жыл бұрын
Would be have been even more awesome with twice the fuel load and double the weapons capacity :D
@guaporeturns94723 жыл бұрын
@@PhantomMark sure , and even better if it was 5 times as fast and had 7 times the low speed handling abilities and was invisible and was indestructible and it emitted donuts and prime rib as its exhaust and they built a million of them .. could go on forever about how it could be better.
@alanwareham73913 жыл бұрын
Some people like knocking the old Lightening but two true facts are that it out climbed the U2 spy plane and it was one of the few planes to ever intercept Concorde ( check it out on the net )
@guaporeturns94723 жыл бұрын
@@alanwareham7391 out claimed? are you meaning out climbed? Yeah I love the Lightning.. one d my faves.. ( I have a lot of faves though)
@francishumphreys9664 Жыл бұрын
As someone who spent his working days on Victors and Vulcans followed by 25 years as the first R.A.F.A. County of Rutland Standard Bearer I agree.
@welshparamedic9 жыл бұрын
Sheer total professionalism! from the lads who flew the canvas, string and wood of WW1 to the brave kids (well 18 is a kid!) in their Hurricanes and Spitfires that faced the overwhelming odds at the battle of Britain to these lads of today in a peacetime aircraft crisis ...Yes its peacetime but how calm are they? this was an old war-bird by then. She was from the start of the cold war in her design, capabilities and philosophy behind those virtues. She was designed to rapidly climb and intercept the likes of Tuplovs and Migs so OK she wasn't a jet of range (they say you can always tell a lightning pilot, hes the one with his eyes constantly surveying the fuel gauge.)...No such thing as true super cruise with this beast, just sheer raw unadulterated Power from those two Avons because as i said it was scramble;e quick and accelerate, climb and intercept! I'm so glad that as a young lad in the late 70's and early 80's, I used to take my kid brothers to the RAF at home BB days that they used to hold yearly at RAF St Athens here in south wales, UK. watching a EE Lightning climb vertically she easily kept up with the phantoms and tornadoes there! now Im nearing 60 with poor health but I'm determined to see 'our Vulcan' in this, her last season. sad, but i even built myself a good PC rig with saitek joystick and flight sim panels combined with Microsoft Flight Simulator X gold deluxe edition. Now I can fly in this classic (bought as an add on together with Vulcan and Typhoon FGR4 and live the life I wanted but never had. See, technology isnt all bad, I can live this pretend life in the comfort of my home, No G forces just a glimpse into the way they flew these monsters! Kudos to the RAF!
@johnhammond64239 жыл бұрын
Christopher Crosby I too am a more mature fan of the lightning and watched them take off and go vertical at the Farnborough air show many times.Now, like you I too fly the Vulcan in my fs2004 with al the add-ons.I will be at Fairford and Dunsfold to see the Vulcan fly for one more year. I hope you will see that wonderful aircraft too sir.
@GWLAD9 жыл бұрын
Christopher Crosby the Vulcan and the typhoon are flying at the Swansea airshow on 11th july Saturday if you can make it I advise you to go butty as its her final year flying we wont see another like her in our skies I saw her at Weston super mare on Saturday but it was really windy and not her best display hoping they really open the taps up on the old girl in swansea
@welshparamedic9 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the info, come hell or high water i'll get there! I live in Cwmbran so its a quick hop down the M4. You have cheered me up, many thanks!
@Eructation12 жыл бұрын
Fascinating how just audio allows the imagination to work. It’s as if we are there too.
@phil_nicholls2 жыл бұрын
I don’t know who all these numpties are commenting on there being no video - but just listen to the audio! A great find! I won’t bore people with the story here, as I’ve posted it elsewhere on the internet, but I was lucky enough to get two rides in the T5 (tub) with 5 sqdn back in ‘87 (I was a UAS cadet). That was supposed to be just one flight, but we had a spot of bother on attempting to land at Binbrook, so diverted to Waddington. I remember then, the pilot shutting one down, done purely to conserve what little fuel we had left. Nowhere near as exciting as this event (I suppose I should be grateful I guess), but this recording brings a lot of memories back! Happy days!
@ArcturanMegadonkey10 жыл бұрын
Andy I've come back to listen to this about 8 times now, it's incredible to listen to, PLEASE re-record it so it's a little clearer. will sub. thanks mate
@richsmith80358 жыл бұрын
Beautiful plane. I miss the old Phantoms, Corsairs, and Crusaders flying out of NAS Miramar back in the day. The Skyhawks were kinda cute. The PBM's were fun to watch, down around North Island, and the occasional Albatross from the Coast Guard station. Gonna have to hit the hobby shop tomorrow:) I miss the old days.
@julianneale61286 жыл бұрын
rich smith that's a beautiful corner of the world! Did you make it to the model shop?
@CAL1MBO6 жыл бұрын
rich smith "Skyhawks were kinda cute" lmao
@SixteenthSine202 жыл бұрын
Why were PBM float bombers down there at that time?
@barumman8 жыл бұрын
The pilot of the stricken aircraft was very calm, real professional. Good for him.
@TheGORAF8 жыл бұрын
@Anthony Smith, you are mistaken, the canopy jettison system is not a hydraulic system, its a compressed gas system fed from the ejection gases. When the ejection is initiated the gas throws the canopy locks back and pushes two rams either side of the cockpit which pushes the canopy into the airflow so it clears the aircraft before the seat leaves the aircraft. That system was in place from the early Mark 3's so there was never ever a hydraulic canopy jettison system. Also, the Lightning has two hydraulic systems, so even if one system was low on Hyd oil (OM15) the other system would still provide for flight controls movement... and anyway, any decent liney wouldnt sign the jet off unless the hyd fluids were at an acceptable level, this was (not an uncommon) engine bay fire probably caused by hyd leak...
@julianneale61286 жыл бұрын
TheGORAF I think I know part of the reason for the modification to the canopy jettison system. I know a chap called Mo More who used to fly in the RAF Display Team, the Firebirds back in 1963, flying F1As. He told me that when they were doing a practice 'bomb burst' once, his friend Mike Cook flew right into him. At first Mo said he thought an engine had blown up but in the event managed to make a precautionary landing. Mike only had partial control and was constantly in a slow steady roll, despite full opporsite aileron deflection. Mike managed to climb the aircraft under these difficult conditions to a height of between 500-700' AGL before ejecting. I don't know exactly what happened during the ejection sequence, but Mike broke his neck and that unfortunately made him a quadriplegic. I know they modified the design after that. Such a shame because he was only about 24 from what I can remember and is likely to no longer be with us, seeing as Mo is in his mid 80s... I know Mo also told me about a pre flight check to do with 'dead bolts' (or something similar) that had to be confirmed 'locked'. He knew another pilot that forgot to check that off the list and on the take off roll at around rotation speed the canopy ripped off its hinges and then wedged itself right into the leading edge of the fin! When I asked how much trouble his friend got into for that, he replied. 'Nothing too much, but quite a slap on the back of the hand'! You seem very knowledgeable about the Lightning...
@tweeky86873 жыл бұрын
The gasses are from a separate explosive cartridge and not the ejection seat gasses.
@garybrindle6715 Жыл бұрын
Brave aircrew who flew the LX despite the ever present dangers and determined groundcrew who had the misfortune to battle this nightmare to maintain.
@adiedonoghue12 жыл бұрын
The lightening was that cool...it didnt need a Pilot
@dannycochrane43303 жыл бұрын
I had the pleasure of working with both Dick Coleman and Ian Black during my time on LTF. Dick was on exchange from the RAAF and a true gentleman. I an was the last pilot to qualify on Lightnings and again a true gentleman. I know that Ian went on to fly F3 and on leaving the RAF became a A330 A340 pilot with Virgin. Ian was also a very accomplised aviation photographer.
@gaiusisthecoolone69782 жыл бұрын
Respect, sir
@nigeh5326 Жыл бұрын
Ian has produced some great books on Lightnings, Phantoms, Tornados and other aircraft. He has a volume 1 of a 2 parter coming out soon on the RN/RAF Phantom
@anonymouscoward75598 жыл бұрын
What a aircraft it is a shame to lose even 1.
@jamesthomas-uc9wq3 жыл бұрын
Great bit of audio and thanks for publishing, I'm guessing that the pilot of the aircraft watching and reporting on Flt Lt Dick Coleman's progress is Ian Black.
@richardvernon3173 жыл бұрын
Would be, seeing Ian took photos of the aircraft on fire which he put in his book about the Lightning's last years in service.
@hyime693 жыл бұрын
Yes It was Ian Black
@-Loki--2 ай бұрын
With all Lightning marks vibration played havoc with complex fuel and hydraulic systems.
@mkmdexplorationparanormal56102 жыл бұрын
fantastic recording, I never realised it was Ian Black reporting back on the damage, great video, I live in Hull so its crazy to hear its local, was the aircraft ever recovered ?
@nigeh5326 Жыл бұрын
Not likely the cost to recover a jet that by then was about to go out of service would have been prohibitive
@neotacan11 жыл бұрын
Great audio clip, really interesting. Thanx for sharing
@Ladf19663 жыл бұрын
I was a mech on 55 Sqn at Marham and remember my Victor being later back than planned following a sortie tanking Phantoms and Lightnings, when they did arrive they filled the groundcrew in on what had unfolded, firstly glad the pilot got out and picked up as quickly as possible, never heard the radio before extremely professionally handled!
@ianmangham457010 ай бұрын
Awesome cool,must have been fantastic seeing all those beasts 🤟
@BrianJ0012 жыл бұрын
before ejecting was the remaining engine switched off?
@geofffrance5759 Жыл бұрын
A lightning crashed in our village Pilling in 1967 the pilot ejected and the plane ended up in someone's garden, the owner was in the garden and was very lucky to survive.
@user-wz2qe2pv6r3 ай бұрын
Thats bravery...he had way too long to think about going out....amazing.
@martinda74468 жыл бұрын
14:55 He hits a duck.
@MothaLuva3 жыл бұрын
But another duck ducked.
@hyime695 жыл бұрын
The Aircraft are both 11 Sqn as were the both the Pilots The Pilot who ejects was Flt Lt Dick Coleman RAAF "Australian" and the other is Flt Lt Ian Black Author of the book "Last of The Lightnings" I was one of the Sqn Engine Fitters but sadly was posted to Gutersloh by then
@brianbridle951Ай бұрын
Just listened again. That bird just didn't want to land despite all the damage.
@fireflyrobert8 жыл бұрын
Awesome - thanks for posting
@AndyMale8 жыл бұрын
+fireflyrobert thanks - i must redo it as it jerks in places
@justbreakingballs4 жыл бұрын
“I’m going to throw it away” Talks like I do about a crisp packet
@gosportjamie3 жыл бұрын
Yup. This is something that military pilots are trained so well in. If the aircraft is no good to you any more then get out or make an emergency landing. Definitely something that GA pilots could learn a lot from as far too many die, and often take others with them, from situations that don't need to be fatal... Their calmness is something that's still almost unworldly. They could almost be discussing what they're going to have for dinner that night when it's a real life-or-death situation...
@richardvernon3172 жыл бұрын
Aircraft was months from being phased out of service anyway.
@markharrison39638 жыл бұрын
No live footage ?
@kenstevens506510 ай бұрын
There was a lot of activity over Spurn when Binbrook was open because the point and the Grimsby dock tower opposite lined you up for the runway.
@ArcturanMegadonkey11 жыл бұрын
excellent stuff!
@dilltdog11582 жыл бұрын
Was it a Binbrook Lightning?
@neilrobertson3888 жыл бұрын
Amazing!
@ianmangham457010 ай бұрын
Audio is just epic, grear training aid
@B92AZ69 жыл бұрын
I'm ex 19 Squadron Lightning's at RAF Gutersloh, these guys are just cool and British.
@Manaritzis888 жыл бұрын
col mullz at the time i am building a 1/48 desk model in take of position of the lightning f.6 version,i love that ugly beauty!
@B92AZ68 жыл бұрын
Manaritzis88 How I your model coming on?
@Manaritzis888 жыл бұрын
Very good the model kit its an airfix kit!
@Scottyrafferty8 жыл бұрын
+col mullz I was at Gutersloh 1967-69, we had 19 Squadron, and they were joined by 92 Squadron, ex Geilenkirchen, early in 1968. Superb aircraft, loved watching them scrambling into vertical climbs on full reheat - awesome sight :)
@hyime695 жыл бұрын
Hi Col Nice to see another Ex Lightning guy Sadly One Pilot was British but the Pilot who Ejects was Flt Lt Dick Coleman and Royal Australian Air Force Ex-Change pilot the British Pilot "Blackie" is Flt Lt Ian Black the Author of the Book Last of the Lightnings and They are Both 11 Sqn Pilots not 5 Sqn
@mike_skinner8 жыл бұрын
Lots of 11 sqdn Lightnings. I enjoyed being at Binbrook and Malta.
@sidv46152 жыл бұрын
how old are you sir?
@mike_skinner2 жыл бұрын
@@sidv4615 68
@mikecrossman67482 жыл бұрын
Why show pics of an 11sqd Lightning when listening to the Pilot of a 5sqd aircraft ??
@rogerstephenson9398 жыл бұрын
iremember being at Binbrook crash gate with friends and a scanner picked this up and recorded it we stud in shock at what we where hearing, and how long it flew before it crashed in the sea.
@andyb.10264 жыл бұрын
Just goes to show a good kite can fly for ages without a Pilot
@PascalUB8 жыл бұрын
Woaw !
@brianbridle9519 жыл бұрын
Interesting that the chopper uses the callsign prefix "Rescue". We were always "Pedro" on the whirlwinds.
@alancordwell97598 жыл бұрын
It's one of the Sea Kings from Leconfield. They normally use callsign like 'Helicopter 128', becoming 'Rescue 128' when deployed.
@g-man22282 жыл бұрын
One wild looking fighter…
@robertmason87578 жыл бұрын
The pilot of XR769 was an exchange RAAF pilot, he is now a QUANTAS pilot.
@TheRunaway1158 жыл бұрын
+Robert Mason seriously? what was his name?
@sailorman86686 жыл бұрын
F Hugh, if you're going to correct someone's mistake, at least provide the correct answer - quite ironic that your answer isn't correct either, lol. QANTAS = Queensland and Northern Territory Aerial Services. :-)
@mcraidgod58464 жыл бұрын
@@sailorman8668 Dick Colman
@sailorman86684 жыл бұрын
@@mcraidgod5846 Is that name supposed to mean something to me?
@lenlatorre29613 жыл бұрын
Sailor Man )
@andyb.10264 жыл бұрын
The Lightning had a fire warning system in the arse end ~ but no fire suppresion. No space for fire bottles.
@chrisjohnson413 жыл бұрын
It had 2 fire bottles fitted just aft of the number 1 engine. Had to roll the interpipe back to change them. As you say I don't think the back end was covered by suppression, only the engines. IIRC.
@andyb.10263 жыл бұрын
Yep, the hottest area , the re-heat pipes, had no fire bottles, Not the cleverest design ever !! Basically telling the Jockey "The good news is You are on Fire - Bad news is, Sod all you can Do" Have a nice day. 😏
@samrodian9192 жыл бұрын
@@andyb.1026 not a jockey but a skyrocket rider! Lol
@tonyharley52302 ай бұрын
I was on 11 Sqn (Tornado F3s) when one evening it was decided to park an old Lightning (camo / XI) on the grass outside the Aircrew Soft and it sunk. 😂
@AndyMale11 жыл бұрын
No problems, found it by accident really, in a box after 4 house moves and 25 years. Didnt want to lose it before tape degrades. I noticed its a little jerky, could do with re-recording it really. let me know if you want a copy. Have some video somewhere when we went to view the scrapped ones as well must convert it.
@glenndoddy6 жыл бұрын
Can I ask where you got it originally ?
@jawalakhel46063 жыл бұрын
Please do
@thephilpott21945 жыл бұрын
I blame the dog; jack russells will chew anything.. Note how the ejected pilot's wingman shuts his bottom engine down and requests priority landing clearance just in case his a/c pulls the same trick!
@HotelPapa1003 жыл бұрын
Probably just to conserve fuel, priority for the same reason.
@jasonhalil259110 ай бұрын
Bingo 3 fellas…..did you hear that? he’s flying on fumes at that point!
@ianmangham457010 ай бұрын
Just so glad he was OK 👌 ejection is a trip 😮How many humans ride a rocket 🚀
@gregtaylor61462 жыл бұрын
Is the recorder/uploader the proud owner of some chickens per chance??? ;-)
@Meestapink692 жыл бұрын
Why all the dislikes, it is horrible to listen to . I get it . But at the same time shows a lot of bravery and skill.
@WINSTANLEYOBXa2 жыл бұрын
Did the dog live long? 15'50!!!
@mythodeax48612 жыл бұрын
Altitude! Altitude! Altitude!
@dan_grey3 жыл бұрын
The last of 24(!) Lightnings to catch fire inflight and crash.
@richardvernon3172 жыл бұрын
Not quite, Last RAF one to catch fire. There was the last one that did not have a happy ending at all.
@TONYPARAMOTOR3 жыл бұрын
hmm where waS this incident ? was it in the uk ? or???? and what was the findings????? does anyone know????????
@stanleybuchan46103 жыл бұрын
Just off Flamborough Head on the east coast of England.
@richardvernon3172 жыл бұрын
Back end of the aircraft caught fire due to either a Fuel or Hydraulics leak. The fire destroyed the actuator that moved the slab tailplane making the aircraft unflyable. Ian Black had his camera onboard and got photos of both the fire and the ejection. Almost exactly the same thing as what happened to the Lightning in South Africa in the late 2000's, except in that case the Pilot couldn't eject due to maintenance errors and he was killed.
@lemmy67824 жыл бұрын
Seen one crash at Scarborough the pilot killed but we all reckon he saved a lot of people on a packed beach that day .
@mickjohnson96233 жыл бұрын
I was walking along the north side after been at the corner cafe. I remember watching it flying and smoke was coming out of it and went into the sea not far offshore.
@richardvernon3173 жыл бұрын
Unfortunately, your views are somewhat mistaken. it was the manoeuvre he did to avoid the Beach that caused the aircraft to depart from controlled flight and crash. The display the pilot flew was unofficial and unauthorised, he was suppose to be flying from Binbrook to Teeside Airport to position the aircraft for the airport's Airshow the following day. Sometime in the past, the local Air Training Corps Squadron at Scarborough asked Binbrook if a Lightning display could be done while they did a ATC PR and recruiting display on the beach front during the Summer Holidays. RAF Binbrook had no problems with this and got the display pilot to do a short display when transiting to an other air show up north. Due to some reason or other, in 1983, HQ 11 Group, who controlled all UK based Air Defence assets, brought in a rule that no air display could be flown by any of their aircraft without permission of the Group HQ (most likely directly from the Air Officer Commanding). For some reason the request from Binbrook to fly this display which was put in well in advance was refused by 11 Group HQ. The pilot of the aircraft was the official RAF Lightning Solo Display Pilot, Flt Lt Mike Thompson, who was a very aggressive display pilot who flew the aircraft to its "slow" speed limits and was reckoned to be one of the best display pilots in the jet ever (He won the best solo display pilot award at the International Air Tattoo a month before). On the link below is a thread on the PPRUNE forum that covers the Scarborough crash with comments from an RAF Engineering Officer who was in the Flight Line office when the pilot had a blazing argument with HQ 11 Group over the phone when he tried to get to get the decision reversed before he took off and a RAF Officer who was on a day off and on the beachfront who saw the aircraft crash and assisted the Police in recovering the pilots body off the rescue boat who picked up the body (the pilot had pulled the Ejection Seat handle and the canopy was coming off the aircraft as it hit the sea). For some reason the Pilot decided on route to Teeside to do a display even after he had been told by his command authority not to do so. Had the Pilot Survived or landed at Teeside, its a good bet he would have been Court Marshalled. AOC's don't like anybody below disobeying their direct orders. www.pprune.org/aviation-history-nostalgia/73801-xs937-m-crash-2.html Why did HQ 11 Group Say "No", Well in 1982 the Government pasted the 1982 Civil Aviation Act. One of the major changes in that bill were the CAA were mandated to regulate Air Displays in the UK, most likely after a horrific crash at the Biggen Hill airshow in 1980 where an A-26 invader, took fare paying passengers up for an air display which resulted in the aircraft flying into a hill and killing everybody on board. In the Modern MOD Military Air Regulations, Aircraft on the Military Register can only do air displays over non MOD land with pre planned permission of the CAA. (getting an RAF aircraft to do a single flypast, is a bit different as the CAA do not have to be asked first unless it will infringe controlled airspace). Seeing that the MoD are a bit slow in rewriting their rule books, the Group HQ's order for everybody to only fly displays when we allow it most likely were to allow a check with the CAA if the request was for an authorised airshow. If it wasn't HQ says NO.
@Simonize413 жыл бұрын
I was there with my mum and dad that day and saw the whole thing. I was a young lad; it shook me up quite a bit.
@chrisrichards25443 жыл бұрын
15:37 ... shut up!
@NoTaboos9 жыл бұрын
Why does it say "lightening" in the title screen? Is it getting lighter?
@jeffslade18923 жыл бұрын
Opps - Lightening (n) a drop in the level of the uterus during the last weeks of pregnancy as the head of the fetus engages in the pelvis.
@sezziek18 жыл бұрын
😢😢😢
@doronron73234 жыл бұрын
At low tide at the Dogger Bank, there's a heap of Lightnings breaking the surface.
@sichere3 жыл бұрын
You mean RAF Dogger bank.
@samrodian9192 жыл бұрын
@@sichere sorry but that is just NOT funny.
@sichere2 жыл бұрын
@@samrodian919 It is what it is know as by many in the RAF
@samrodian9192 жыл бұрын
@@sichere ok fair enough. British gallows humour lol
@richardvernon3172 жыл бұрын
@@samrodian919 Or RAF Spurn Point was the other term used and I first heard the term on a Cadet Camp at RAF Binbrook in 1982 from Ground Crew who worked on the aircraft.
@c81361323 жыл бұрын
Over 300 unlikes, why?? Cretins each and every one
@CAVBOY8011 жыл бұрын
i'd love a copy please Andy also please post up the scrapper pics
@PhantomMark3 жыл бұрын
Shame he never got clearance to shoot down the empty aircraft, seems a waste to miss the opportunity for a flying target :P
@stanleybuchan46103 жыл бұрын
They don't fly armed on training sorties.
@bastogne3152 жыл бұрын
I had a bus do something similar to me one night. Onboard fire. I ejected but turned out later it was just condensation.
@ianmangham457010 ай бұрын
Helo has a lock 🔐 incoming for pilot rescue 🙏
@garyt67472 жыл бұрын
Great jet.One of the very best.Glad all was well.Shame about the " predictive text".
@NickyH602 жыл бұрын
Bloody hilarious! :D
@kevinswindle5163 жыл бұрын
11 squadron lightning in pictures not a five squadron
@DAllan-lz3lg2 жыл бұрын
That was awesome, I’m am curious though (and I’d think any angry keyboard experts to reign it in)… the pilot nursed a doomed plane for a long time before ejecting. I’m surprised he get didn’t pull both fire handles just prior, to ensure the plane descended. He was over the sea at the time? The plane flew on for quite some time and fortunately crashed in the sea.
@Davman3168 жыл бұрын
Wtf with people putting vids were you can't wind them on! or should I say slide shows.
@leifvejby80238 жыл бұрын
+1965CAPTKIRK Back in "the old days" they only recorded the sound, not the video, that is why.
@timhancock66267 ай бұрын
An Australian throwing away one of Her Majestys valuable aircraft ? I hope they sent him the bill ! ( not seriously..just in case somebody takes it seriously You can never tell these days 😉)
@1985_Honda_CRX_Si Жыл бұрын
sad that so many people expect to see violence and when hit with something educational, dislike and leave
@HUSTLER4513 жыл бұрын
Super si le Pilot est Sauf ! c'est dommage aussi pour l'avion
@storm1sandy7648 жыл бұрын
Sucks that a lightning went in.
@stephenwhite31172 жыл бұрын
The correct spelling is Lightning, the story concerns one from 5 Squadron that was lost but the pictures show 11 Squadron aircraft. I didn't bother watching any more.
@fuzzdmedic9 жыл бұрын
Total professionalism. I bet the Americans would have been a bit more shouty!
@KB4QAA9 жыл бұрын
fuzzdmedic Gee thanks. Yeah we Americans don't know how to handle in flight emergencies. We just go to pieces. The sobbing and sniveling are unsettling. ;)
@ronaldhowell20419 жыл бұрын
fuzzdmedic What a stupid remark. You have obviously been watching too many Hollywood movies!
@fuzzdmedic8 жыл бұрын
Unfortunately sarcasm doesn't carry well in text. I am sure an American pilot would have been just as professional!
@KB4QAA8 жыл бұрын
fuzzdmedic Yeah it just didn't come through in your comment! :) Cheers from Pelican1984 a sobbing, frozen in place American aviator.
@Eructation12 жыл бұрын
American military are highly professional. I apologise for the silly remark by a fellow Brit
@nzsaltflatsracer80543 жыл бұрын
Aussie pilot.
@user-si5qz5uv1x Жыл бұрын
Да, корыто еще то было....
@ianmangham457010 ай бұрын
Bingo Bingo Bingo 😮Skoshi Fuel ⛽
@garybburchill5702 ай бұрын
Frrm RAF Binbrook linconshire
@eugeneoreilly93562 жыл бұрын
Many Lightning's crashed,killing 14 pilots in the process.
@timhancock66267 ай бұрын
Gloster Meteors killed 500 aircrew.
@ib2sweet3 жыл бұрын
The text does not accurately reflect the communication. It's mostly gibberish.
@ianmangham457010 ай бұрын
15:37 15:50
@kissthis5361 Жыл бұрын
Soviet Mig-21
@BulbDrama3 жыл бұрын
BS
@ronmartin37553 жыл бұрын
This is not a video! Just a collection of pics and a recording of ground control and the pilot!
@kneelneil3 жыл бұрын
...and yet, here you are.
@johnnydiamondsmusic16733 жыл бұрын
No shit Sherlock. What a prick you are.
@roberthill73358 жыл бұрын
Other than the fact that it is just a few pictures shown over and over and over and over and over again, would have been a good video. Couldn't watch the whole thing. Got bored of the same pictures.
@leifvejby80238 жыл бұрын
+Robert Hill No sound?
@pippastone60183 жыл бұрын
At least show the crash and plane flying, boredom
@AndyMale3 жыл бұрын
Found an audio tape - dont have footage?
@alanphillips4851 Жыл бұрын
Idiot sat behind a computer listening to sheer bravery in an audio recording and is 'bored'. Then go away and make a difference.
@markharries19573 жыл бұрын
Interesting radio commentary but let down by the lack of moving picture.
@martf80143 жыл бұрын
are you for fucking real dickhead?
@stanleybuchan46103 жыл бұрын
No go-pros or mobile phone cameras in those days mate!
@davidrees79782 жыл бұрын
🙄
@Eructation12 жыл бұрын
Unbelievable comment
@johnshooter28262 жыл бұрын
Now go and pick up your crayons and sort them by flavour!
@CaptVirtual3 жыл бұрын
Way too much content, this video should have been edited to 18:30-22:44 minutes which still would have covered relative topic
@alanphillips4851 Жыл бұрын
Real life wasn't designed for convenience on youtube. This is exactly how this recording should be presented, in real time with the correct pauses.
@Bigmac31123 жыл бұрын
What a wast of time using a video platform to post an audio and photo's, write a book
@TheGrumpyEnglishman3 жыл бұрын
It's an audio platform too dumbass.
@Eructation12 жыл бұрын
I guess you need top gun music too to keep you concentrated.