Gran Turismo 7: Why is This Car Winning Everything?

A closer look at the current state of balancing in Gran Turismo 7 multiplayer.
I do believe that without the hybrid power in the Peugeot L500R, there is balance in this race - once of course the horsepower circumvention glitch has been removed.
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[@zorzil]

This is exactly the kind of thing I was fearing would happen in GT7. I was so happy when I did my first Daily Race B and saw a big variety of cars being used, but now there are more and more Peugeot hybrids and the number of 'normal' cars I see is gradually decreasing. If the L500R ends up being the go-to for all road car races, it's really going to take away a lot of the appeal GT7 had for me. I know I'm voluntarily handicapping myself sticking with my Mitsubishi GTO, but I can't help but see it as going against the spirit of the game pulling out a VGT hybrid in a road car race - the very first road car race at that.

[@MyloSkeng]

It definitely won't, it's only been 5 days, it's just been a very annoying 5 days. When they bring proper BoP races people will be happier, but the L500R is just broken

[@dma968]

they should ban vgts they utilize futuristic sometimes borderline non existent technology which gives them an unfair edge

[@Swarm509]

People who are good at these things will go over the cars and find what is "best" for min/maxing and everyone else will follow along. It is the same thing in the latest Forza, and easier with the sharable tunes, and any other game with in depth mods. I also play Escape from Tarkov and it is full of this mentality. While it may not be optimal I say race what you find fun and tune it/drive as best you can.

[@pogtuber5146]

Yeap, Forza Horizon 4 and 5 should have been a lesson in how NOT to do multiplayer

[@thefearhawk8805]

As someone who came from sports and is mostly interested in daily races the fucking peugeot was in every race I made since mondy. I refuse to buy the shit thing. Using it is like playing COD on playstation, but with mouse and keyboard and crossplay deactivated. Its just a cowardly dick move. I have no eespect for the guys using it...

[@mrrodriguezHLP]

The Peugeot hybrid really takes the spirit out of this race. But oh well, hopefully Polyphony lives and learns.

[@henrik1743]

They should've learned by this point

[@MM-rf8ml]

No its the gt2 ford gt replacement. Its a nod to history. 🤣

[@maxsanchez764]

I don't mind lol reminds me of hot wheels

[@HeyMaruniko]

no they are not, they are messed up the classification of car performance since GT2

[@nicelittlerunner]

They’ve had 25 years to learn. Now failures are in the ethos of the game and rectifying them is very ‘assetto Corsa’

[@samuelsiltala119]

Daily races need to be based on performance points (PP) much more often. Look at Super GT`s Peugeot VGT PP (626 after de-tuning) and compare to Skyline R34 used by Super GT (580 PP). PP apparently takes into account the hybrid advantage pretty well. Almost a 10% difference in PP between R34 and VGT, that is a massive difference.

[@CalculatedRiskAK]

Yeah I just noticed that the daily race didn't take into account the PP. What the heck were they thinking? The PP system isn't so bad, but they're not using it.

[@redstonewatcher6651]

“Hey we’re adding PP back” “But we don’t trust you with it. Have fun with this system that is arguably worse than BoP!”

[@theitalianjojo3440]

@@CalculatedRiskAK What I'm guessing is that, since the game released less than one week ago, PD is still trying to see how to balance stuff. *I think* they decided to go with this, see how tuning goes, see if there is something too op/too nerfed and then take balancing actions based on the data you have at your disposal. Or at least that's what I think it's happening.

[@huleyn135]

@@theitalianjojo3440 they cannot do this wishy washy slow balancing bs they did with sport.

[@theitalianjojo3440]

@@huleyn135 if balancing was fast and could be done with a snap of your fingers, it wouldn't be a "slow balancing bs"; problem is, it's slow, and you can't avoid it for multiple reasons: 1) you need data, tons of data, in order to know what needs to be done to buff something underused and nerf something overused, with no data, or not enough of it, you can't do that simply because you can't know what to do; 2) meta and anti-meta picks: a "meta" is what people use the most, aka, what is trending in usage because it's strong, while an "anti-meta" is a counter that can deal with the meta effectively, sometimes even becoming the new meta. In the case of daily race b, you had a meta (4WD cars such as Skylines) pretty much dominating, then you have someone discovering an anti-meta (the L500R) which then became the meta because of how strong it is. Now, over time the meta usually stabilizes around a pick, unless changes (such as nerfing/buffing something, or doscovering an anti-meta, or a new entry becoming a new meta or an anti-meta) happen, and those changes are required since otherwise the meta pick would monopolize the competition; 3) users enjoyability: no one wants to get washed every time because of an unbalanced meta, and developers know that very well. Simply put, people dislike losing, and the fix to this is balancing the meta, again, through various means. Tl;dr you need time to balance stuff and it's complicated.

[@vash_dakari]

The more things change, the more they stay the same. I remember this car being overpowered in GT6 as well, frequently used in the time trials due to the hybrid boost. Kind of gave it a pass back then because it was a "GT Vision" car, and those were always filled with virtual alien technologies; why most of them were relegated to the X class and one make races. Without any changes though, I'm sure we'll see the same cars getting used over and over again in GT7 as well. Just waiting for the videos about the Chaparral 2J now.

[@igotnoodlesgold9193]

is that one srt tomahawk car in the new grand turismo game ?

[@E9X330]

@@igotnoodlesgold9193 yes

[@averagegt7player917]

That Peugeot wasn’t in GT6. Only in GTS.

[@RacingHardTV]

I think you mean the Nissan GTR VGT. That had Electric Boost

[@theepicgamer84]

Oh god the 2J. That thing is probably the most OP car in GT history 💀

[@AdamS32828]

It would be cool to see specific conditions for tuning races, such as only being allowed to use stock and sports parts, or a one-make race with unlimited tuning restrictions, or having to use a turbocharger/supercharger as part of your tune, etc. and this could work really well for both single player or multiplayer races

[@DdraigRazgriz]

I would say that these kind of "race restrictions" would be the best thing to happen for gt7. I would feel like you're racing in a spec-ish series, or, in some length on the same "class" of cars. Those vague race conditions for only power and weight opens too much room for unfair abuse of some game exploit. Or worse, it will end up like forza horizon multi-player.

[@litreocola6447]

I think that’s already going to happen. Seems super open to limiting certain aspects of car performance. Maybe we’ll see drivetrain and aspiration-limited classes in the future too?

[@McSniffle]

Has Polyphony ever interacted and adjusted what they're doing based on player feedback?

[@wololo10]

No

[@stitchcompany291]

Best outcome possible is to let individuals host race lobbies with their own rules, restrictions, track and class selections... The first 3-4 forza series did it right and it blows my mind how many developers get this wrong.

[@deimantas2754]

it's a good day when the one and only super gt uploads a video

[@Super_GT]

Thank you viewer, Super GT here.

[@94nolo]

Indeed.

[@deimantas2754]

@Super GT hello super gt, viewer here

[@ana_92_]

@@Super_GT Can you please share your wheel settings? I'd like to try your settings because i bet they are a lot better than mine so game comes even more enjoyable. I have CSL Elite PS4 & Clubsport V3

[@velorama-tkkn]

Hybrid power is mostly done by lap 4, but there's still a minor amount that is recuperated and used on corner exit.

[@MJL1912]

15:59 I love how just after he hits the wall we briefly see him get a penalty😂😂

[@TheBender402]

The pop up Headlights coming up everytime you hit tunnel was just beautiful

[@francisco3283]

It looks like that scene in Cars 3 where the next gen hypercars leave Lightning McQueen in the dust😂

[@tonywells715]

Note the little red/green arrows to either lower side of the "hybrid battery" icon. I believe that indicates whether you're draining battery (red arrow shows under full throttle) or recharging battery (shows green under braking) I think this would also account for the brakes feeling heavier. If you could feather the throttle just below wide open when it's unnecessary to be wide open...you may be able to stretch a full 4 laps with 100% hybrid assisted power

[@PavloxMotions]

The boneshaker of GT7 LOL. This was always bound to happen with the tuning thing and it will only get worse meta wise just like in forza..

[@goob8945]

😂 rage fills my veins any time I set eyes on a boneshaker. I’m not allowed in toys r’us because I keep destroying the hot wheels shelves 😤

[@Swarm509]

Yup. The only fix to this is a strong mix of different restrictions and requirements for different races to force different cars. One will still get "meta" cars and setups in each one but it should be a lot easier to try out different setups and cars.

[@pearsetraynor9142]

This isn't a tuning problem though, its explicitly the hybrid mode thats causing the issue

[@litreocola6447]

@@pearsetraynor9142 bunch of things, not just hybrid make it quick: low drag, awd, etc.. all of that is unregulated in a power-to-weight class. When the r32 was fastest early in the week people were complaining that awd was too powerful. Reserve judgement for the PP classes

[@8thlvlMage]

This car looks like the secret car you'd have to unlock in a Hot Wheels game, and blows everything away like one too.

[@hdaviator9181]

Not a fan of allowing these fake cars in multiplayer. I think they need to make fake car only races. And make the rest for real cars.

[@jasonburrell4903]

Kid U do know that U can prohibit these in Ur lobby settings ....

[@Locke1gamingarmy]

@@jasonburrell4903 talking about the daily races bud

[@Super_GT]

@@jasonburrell4903 this is a daily race rather than a custom lobby.

[@fartimusmaximus8710]

@@jasonburrell4903 you calling someone a kid but use "U" to spell you . Get out of here "kid"

[@PeterTeal77]

I'm sorry to tell you, but all the cars are fake. It's a video game.

[@Saltibancos89]

I don't think taking out the hybrid would make the peugeot competitive, but starting with 0% hybrid power stored would be the call, as the car regenerates some power when braking and that will give and bit of an acceleration out of every corner of as it happens on lap 4

[@willyjimmy8881]

Be interesting to know how they're geared. My guess is they're relying on the torque from EV motor to get out of the corners with the rest of traffic, but the higher gearing allows them to stay in the gasoline engine's powerband longer down the straights. Once that battery is used up their handicapped the same as the rest of the field. How's the acceleration out of the slow to mid speed turns? That would be the tell.

[@HazyJ28]

I would LOVE to see Seattle again. me and my brother used to love racing around that circuit on GT3

[@captlowrez5455]

YES!!! Special stage route 5 was my all time favorite track!!!! With these graphics/physics.... They most definitely need to bring that one back!

[@mhj360]

I haven’t played GT since Sport when I last had a PS4 in 2018, but when I was playing that game the BOP generally made things feel fair and accessible. There may have been a car which was more suitable for certain tracks than others, but at least over the course of a season it would balance out. Tuning has had exactly the effect I feared it would in GT7 - an obviously meta car and the need to scour KZbin or forums for the best tune, just to not finish outside the top 10. Not exactly ideal for people that don’t have the time to commit to hours of research and tuning, not to mention the grind for in game credits. I have faith that Polyphony will be monitoring the state of play and hope they will respond to the criticism, but this launch week has put a bit of a dampener on my enthusiasm for multiplayer in GT7 at the moment.

[@cf7gaming277]

This car being OP is not because of tuning. It is due to it being a hybrid. Tuning has nothing to do with it.

[@nastynooby6204]

Just look up ams dood like everyone else does for tuning for the week

[@avl5214]

@@nastynooby6204 nobody wants to do that

[@shorty808100]

You know every week you gotta tune 3 or more new cars you do realize that right, BoP’d racing was about skill not who could find the OP car or OP tune and just beat ppl on straight line speed alone basically it’s Forza, no one is playing multiplayer even open lobbies are empty that’s not a good sign for the game think GT7 is gonna flop everything they said the game was gonna be like 2 1/2-3 years ago it isn’t it’s a polished turd

[@TheChill001]

@@shorty808100 maybe if they simply didn't focus on multiplayer, it wouldn't flop so bad. Because let's face it, GT was never about multiplayer and now it just feels as if they failed on both ends of the game...pathetic

[@The3dits]

OMG, just want to thank you for using my Nissan GT-R livery! So glad you liked it enough to use it in your game! Means so much! Thank you!

[@RiskninjaYT]

Drawing a lot of parallels here with the Boneshaker in FH5. Weird fictional car that doesn't fit in dominates everything else ruining the races for everyone that doesn't use them

[@stevennewsome8769]

I like the Bugatti VGT. Lots of hp. Over 1000 even when applying the power restrictor and ballast. Used it on the VGT Menu Book, and it dominated.

[@KZC_smont_17]

man I'm litterally addicted to your commentary and how good you are on GT.Keep it supa gt

[@joelduffie6201]

"I thought, you know what, lets try and spring a surprise, get in there nice and early and get the job done. And I think it worked, well, it definitely worked, because I'm in first place, which is the whole point of racing." - yet another golden piece of dialogue

[@damn6039]

It's the same thing in EVERY game, there'll always be something that becomes the meta and stay ahead of the pack Nerf it and the playerbase finds the next best thing and the cycle continues

[@litreocola6447]

That’s why you need to have very precise performance measurement. A one size fits all formula like forza will leave huge uncertainty in performance. Ideally, your performance rating changes based on the RACE ITSELF. So a 10 lap race at daytona with tire wear has different PP requirements than a 4 lap tsukuba race with no consumption for example

[@Miguel-th3wx]

@@litreocola6447 even that will create a META car.

[@kevinqi7992]

@@Miguel-th3wx everything creates a meta car, you cannot avoid that. even in gt sport, every race had its favorite GT3 car. The issue with GT7 is that, unlike GTS, the meta car for this race basically cannot be defeated through skill in a fair and clean battle. you have to count on the peugeot driver driving absolutely terribly or visiting the shadow realm

[@priceyocto1686]

That is why i hate meta in ALL games, it just ruins diversity.

[@Skumtomten1]

You are right, but I remember in Forza Motorsport 4 there was a huge variety of cars in both A and S class which I raced. There were only a couple of "op" cars, like the Lotus elise and Exige, but there was some kind of a gentlemen's agreement to not use these cars. Only the bad drivers used them so it didn't matter. Forza 4 was one of the most balanced games I have ever played honestly.

[@thatoneguy-yt]

Hey Super GT, I have been watching now for several years on other accounts and I loved every video of yours that I watched and you made me want to pursue becoming a content creator of the GT series. Thank you Super GT.❤️

[@sekutofu6471]

in the restriction of the races it says "road cars only" they should just add hybrid cars aren't allowed and the problem is fixed

[@AndreasNV]

9:44 "one-all in old switcharoos" brilliant

[@bryan34wable]

My beef is this car being allowed in the race. The criteria is a “Road car.” That VGT doesn’t even exist.

[@mattlade250]

I'm glad to see you used the GTO, that's been my go to car for this race since I didn't have the R34. But I've been using your R34 tune on the GTO and it still works pretty well. I think that's down to how good of a job they did balancing the tuning and performance for this race

[@Super_GT]

Yeah I think a very basic tune is to add racing engine parts (intercooler, air filter etc), the best brakes, weight reduction, then reduce horsepower as necessary.

[@mattlade250]

@@Super_GT I agree. Would love to see more videos on tuning. This is all new to me in the GT world. And I'd love to race against Scott Speed sometime if he is still active in the Americas

[@twan329]

Best of luck at Williams this year

[@jmathews5212]

Steve, thanks for the great content.. I am really quite concerned about where Multiplayer is going. As a part time racer with many a RL commitment I have always enjoyed the pickup and play aspects of GT. As you've said in your videos it's the accessibility of the franchise which attracts you to it. I really like the idea you recently shared where maybe MP could have races which allow tuning and races which don't. Perhaps they would get to eventually where the tuning stuff is for the elite level racing and the rest of us mere mortals can have our normal MP racing. I bet the non-tune racing would get much more participation as I am certainly shying away from MP at the moment... sorry for the long comment.

[@jarvisnelson1878]

I really appreciate the helpful tips for newer players, such as "I'm in first place, which is the whole point of racing," and "Turning right into the barrier on the straight is not what you want to be doing."

[@WynnofThule]

They should start this car in a lower state of charge, half, third, quarter, or maybe even no charge would be interesting. If that makes it too slow, buff regen. Having around a lap of extra pace at the start might be interesting, but three laps is just busted.

[@alexroman8576]

the thing is polyphony is so obsessed with realism idk if they'd do that, they honestly just need to give its own category

[@WynnofThule]

@@alexroman8576 I think both a fully charged and fully empty battery are "realistic" enough situations in their own ways. I could imagine an irl hybrid series doing either or.

[@alexroman8576]

@@WynnofThule trueee

[@arctic3od450]

There's definitely a lack of multiplayer content at the moment. I was very disappointed to find out that the Daily Races aren't actually daily, and at least for now not even weekly. It's a shame, this is the time when the content should be there if it's gonna be there. Before people get bored with the game.

[@ClonesDream]

Sounds like a soup of the day that doesn't change for months lol

[@andrewhezekiahdaniel]

There's going to be tons of content added over the next few months and years.

[@ClonesDream]

@@andrewhezekiahdaniel Which should have been released as part of the base game but ok

[@andrewhezekiahdaniel]

@@ClonesDream Lol, no the game was in development for several years already. Like it or not, the game is a 'live service' and lots of added content will arrive in the coming years, much of it free. It's 2022, not 1993 mate.

[@Clit_Yeastwood]

I figured Vision GT / Cars that aren’t actually real wouldn’t be allowed to compete outside of Vision GT etc spec races.

[@matthewshedden3567]

I was enjoying the variety as people were exploring different and favourite cars but now it’s morphed into how it was in GT Sport where everyone was using the Megane in Gr4 races and the 911 RSR is Gr3

[@joekornblith903]

Call me crazy but I really liked the online for gt sport better. The tuning aspect introduces an element that I am just not really a fan of

[@avbsvideo]

Me too.

[@kak8895]

Just admit you're noob at tuning and don't care about what goes on under the hood to make a great setup.

[@joekornblith903]

@@kak8895 no it just feels like forza now lol, I love forza but GT was more of the competition and racing skill for me

[@kak8895]

@@joekornblith903 Asides GTSport, when was GT ever about competition and racing? The upgrades/tuning is what's been considered a full GT game for two decades. You're just bad at tuning cause folks like you are more pleased about driving than building. You shy away

[@b0ris360]

@@kak8895 Tuning ruins the game. It massively decreases the player base and results in unbalanced races. You want to tune the car because you cant beat players when the cars are the same. Am I doing this right?

[@jacobwebster6315]

Your commentary is legendary when there’s carnage

[@bravejango12]

Can you change the regenerative braking and hybrid power usage settings? If so you might be able to extend the battery life and really make this thing a monster.

[@rovingenglishman]

Interesting. Just shows how novel this concept is to all of us, including game devs. How do we treat the new generation of electric and hybrid cars? This is all new territory and a unique time in automotive history.

[@Jorcap]

Its a GT thing. In GT Sport its usually a Japanese tuned RX7 or likewise. Always 1 car ahead of the rest

[@MyloSkeng]

I think the issue is this car is significantly better to the point where it's not even 'meta' it's just better, R32 is probably the actual meta car because it's slightly better than the rest, but not like this 😅

[@boolin8286]

@@MyloSkeng Yeah. I'm alright with a 'meta' car, it's inevitable. The trick to it is having the meta car not be so overwhelmingly better than everything else. It should still require a minimum of skill to get pole position in it. If someone is faster in a slightly slower car performance wise, you would know that they are just better. In something like the Peugeot, there isn't really any competition.

[@williambrandon9660]

9:50 omfg I saw that switch a roo loading too that was too clean :')

[@mulletsquirrel]

I wonder if the pop up headlights on the GTO affect the aerodynamics in game?

[@kronzomg]

The battery only discharges when the wheel is straight or close to, and you're accelerating. It does recharge when you lift (green up arrow rather than red down arrow) Simple strategy in the l500. Go hard first lap. Then simply lift before corners for the remainder of the race. 100m before braking zone after straights for example. And if you're well in the lead, just lift and coast anywhere you want. Battery will be saved for if/when you actually have someone come from behind to properly challenge you. Needless to say you need to be able to put together reasonable lap times in the first place to get, and then maintain your lead. To be clear - no other cars apart from other L500s should be of any threat to you after 2 laps. Pull a 5 second lead, and then let them get close as they want, you'll always re-take the lead on a straight assuming you've properly managed energy. All you need to do is maintain enough battery to stay in the lead, no more no less.

[@BadDrummerCarl]

I mean the R34 Vspec probably produces 320hp+ standard but the japanese rated all cars 276 because of the power wars. Also the L500 labelled as a 'road car' is hilarious

[@kickemindafacestyleson6986]

Reminds me of the Escuedo Pike in GT3. That car owned

[@mikehipperson]

That car is dominating because it doesn't exist except in the game!

[@thefearhawk8805]

But its also dominating because the people who use it have no dignity or honor, because otherwise the would not use it. Even if its allowed.....its just spineless and kinda disrespectful to use it.

[@Buzykil]

Some ways to rebalance the races would be not counting VGT cars as road cars and straight up penalizing AWD and hybrid cars with less power or higher weight allowed since they are unaccounted powerful upgrades. The PP system could be used too but messing up your suspension can cause the points to drop a lot and then give more room for power or less weight. Unless those would still be counted, which would then limit the tuning settings near the point limit.

[@dmvercosa]

What would happen if you brought a heavily-tuned Honda Fit Hybrid? I wonder what the pace of other hybrid cars is against the Peugeot.

[@RogueBeatsARG]

So, they improved the Performance O Point system, finded a way to make the game simulate a real lap with your current car to calculate how good it is and give it a number, and then they balance muliplayer races with HorsePower... Thats some smooth brain move Poliphony

[@rolirolster]

It's a simple fix, make the races 6 laps, that way the hybrids will get brought back at the end once they have no power and it'll be close racing.

[@Czmlol]

Except the fact that the hybrids still perform practically on par without the additional power.

[@rolirolster]

@@Czmlol No they don't. They handle terribly and you could see in the vid, after Steve ran out of batteries he was topping 139 mph, but in the Audi it was around 150. So yeah, I reckon it would work, worth a try.

[@gurulaghima6518]

Sometimes I have trouble sleeping but your videos really help me to relax Thank you so much, you've made me get some really nice nights and I can't thank you enough

[@eamonnparsons3155]

I haven't had a look at GT7 multiplayer races yet, just been binging the single-player experience. But I'm glad to see that the races (at least in this instance) are limited by horsepower and not PP. My experience in the single-player races, is that PP is not balanced very well, especially when it comes to EV's and Hyrbid's, for much the same reason you mention. I beat several of the single-player races with the Porsche Taycan and just tuned it up or down depending on the tuning requirements, and it absolutely decimated the AI races by 50+ seconds. Playing around with the tuning, I found that to make the race 'close'. I had to tune the Porsche down to 580 PP for a 700 PP race and I was able to win by only a small margin, the acceleration and ease that achieves top speed makes it so much more quick than the other cars you end up against.

[@demarcot]

Your videos just bring serenity to my day, and I don't even play GT

[@cesarfelipe7138]

Honestly, the most balanced way of fixing this in my opinion is Polyphony recognising that fuel and tire wear in a 4 lap race is insignificant, thus they should just disable it. What that would allow them to do is take the power of the electric motors into consideration as well when calculating the full power figure of the car for the event, because since the batteries wouldn't drain, the power of the electric motors wouldn't be just a temporary bonus anymore. What I'm trying to say is, if the event limit is 250HP, and the electric motors provide 125HP, then you would have to de-tune the combustion engine to 125HP, because the game would take the power of the electric motors into account. Well, even better actually would be for the game to actually use the PP score of the car for matchmaking as well, as some others have already pointed out. (Why isn't this already the case? Why did Polyphony make such a thorough, all encompassing system that measures the overall performance of the cars for matchmaking and then... Not use the system for matchmaking. Has Kazunori been hitting the sake lately? xD)

[@lorenzomarton9602]

I really don't understand why they don't ban this car from Multiplayer until they got their stuff fixed. The only two reasons can be A that they want it this way or B that they arent aware of the problem. Neither of the Options make really sense

[@tomanderson6335]

Polyphony only counting a hybrid's combustion engine output toward the horsepower limit for an event seems like a big freakin' oversight that never should have made it past the alpha stage...but what do I know?

[@hullymichael]

If they dont fix balance issues between cars in the same race then i just dont see online being enjoyable at all. Would hate to start a race in a different car and just not be capable of overtaking or winning unless you have the “OP” car for that week.

[@bwest6275]

agree 100

[@theguardianwolf7206]

Nothing really op other than allowing VGT cars in the race. Other than that tubing allows for a wider variety of cars to be successful on track

[@kriskater]

@@theguardianwolf7206 fair enough

[@yuutify]

11:49 "I could edit in some explosions there" - super Gt I feel cheated due to the lack of explosions

[@liquidsnakex]

🚙💥💥💥🚗🔥

[@yuutify]

@@liquidsnakex thank you

[@jmirsp4z]

they need to ban imaginary cars from online racing.

[@EmpanadaDeCaca]

Agree. They look so out of place. You have these JDM cars racing in Tsukuba when this penis looking space car comes flying at full speed.

[@Drew.DrivesYT]

I would love to see the return of all the old Special Stage routes - 5, 7, the Clubman and 11. El Capitan and Midfield get special mentions as well, always loved those two courses.

[@andreisolomka4847]

loving the content, keep it coming :)

[@rootyp]

Reminds me of the old school Piles Peak All Wheel Drive Nissan after you put street tires in it. Nostalgia.

[@Challenger160]

Does the Honda nsx have a hybrid system in this game similar to the Peugeot? Interested in knowing if something similar would happen with that car

[@Buzykil]

NSX weights about as much as an aircraft carrier. I don't think its weight can be reduced to 1,2 tons

[@NicoKyunKyun]

@@Buzykil aircraft carrier would still float on water

[@mafiousbj]

So hybrid gives them more torque because of the electric motor and active aero helps with braking and even cornering )or at least it should if the physics are modeled right, no drag in the straights but pops up when needed in the corners)....yeah those things don´t get reflected in a race where you enter based only on horsepower and weight....they need to add some other car qualities to the ecuation or make it start at 50% hybrid power

[@adf286]

1 million credits for a fake car that’s overpowered and is running the multiplayer racing experience? I didn’t know this was gta online

[@54_ocram46]

15:56 soooo satisfying to see

[@bruno3300291]

What an unfortunate event right?

[@spikyone79]

It's been this way in almost every GT game; they include a bunch of concept cars with fantasy performance levels, that are faster than anything else in their class. I remember everyone using the Suzuki GSX-R/4 in GT6 online events, before that the RX8 concept cars were much faster than an actual RX8... I generally avoid them; if I wanted to drive fictional cars I'd be playing Ridge Racer.

[@Kavster92]

All the special stages need to come back and all of the classic rally circuits too. I miss Smokey Mountain.

[@junkaname6900]

I agree, and i miss Grand Valley from the PS1 days, Grand Valley 300km is a classic race/ endurance that can return hopefully.

[@suxix7312]

Would be really nice if they could add in a few Point to point races. Long winding roads next to some beautiful scenery!

[@PERPowns]

They should do a daily race with the L500 only and take it out of everything else. Seems asinine they would let this slide. I kind of like the idea of starting the hybrid out at 0% but that really only delays the inevitable imo. Would be worth a shot though I suppose!

[@joelduffie6201]

"looks like someone had an impromptu visit to Barriar" - Super GT, circa 2022

[@litreocola6447]

K, let’s not overreact. This was a power-to-weight class, meaning aero efficiency, but most importantly torque curves, are not taken into account for eligibility. Until we see daily races with PP ratings we won’t know for sure if it’s gonna be unbalanced or not yet. My opinion is the PP rating MUST be simulated for the RACE DURATION of the daily race itself, not a static rating like the ones in forza. That way if the track chosen is a power track the PP rating required accounts for that. Or if tire wear and fuel consumption is included, the total race distance with average fuel saving and driving aggression is taken into consideration over the race distance

[@BrucifyMe]

Been interesting to watch the meta develop across multiple iterations. It finally settling on this Peugeot was not what I expected.

[@McPhilen]

My word, it's the Batmobile crew!

[@Super_GT]

Bruce Wayne dominating the Gran Turismo online servers

[@philmepowers]

Not just the hybrid power train but the areodynamics....the gtr is like a brick pushing through the air which also helps with breaking where as the hybrid is like an arrow cutting through the air with minimal resistance

[@alexandermatthews145]

Nice U were driving a 3000GT I owned a 1999 3000GT the last year that they made this car

[@edwardgarner7498]

I deeply respect your calmness playing multiplayer. I dont believe i could keep my cool, so , i never try. Instead i will try to be a good player in normal/ story mode. Hats off to all those who can keep it clean.

[@turbohulk7989]

Can you recharge the battery by holding brakes like 5% abit before actual braking point just like we did with audi R18 gr1 in GT Sport?

[@Torchedini]

It does give the green regen arrow when he's braking so I would suppose that is happening

[@turbohulk7989]

@@Torchedini yeah then you can manage it for all 4 laps or more

[@mattr791]

The regen rate is too low to matter

[@max_m798]

What i'd like is for hybrid cars to not last as long (kekw). So they still would be super quick early on but from the middle of the race they turn down instead of after like 75%. Would also give alot of opportunity for some tactics

[@steelwitness]

That is the coolest looking car i have seen in such a long time. I grew up with hot wheels crazy creations and it inspired the career I work today. Doing custom car pieces for people. My dream is to build my own hot wheel but im not artistic enough for such design

[@BallisticTech]

I would LOVE to see Seattle! One of my favorite GT tracks of all time

[@sjelliott6660]

I used breaking in this new game to switch to racing in that view. I'd always used bumper cam before.

[@X2K9]

Man o man I knew this was going to happen I'm not surprised they are hybrid it felt Gran turismo 2 all of over again bro trust I know. It would be an honour 🎖 to race you one day Super GT I love your content bro keep up the good work mate! 👍🏿

[@DRIFTERX281]

I personally hate VGT’s bc it makes the game and races so unrealistic but the Peugeot just hits different

[@ruikazane5123]

I see a problem on your starting launch. Hold the throttle to a particular level where the car would pick up and go instead of sitting on the limiter, spin the tyres then bog the motor once grip suddenly return. Might take some practice but helps for that perfect launch almost every time. Maybe try and check the differences? In drag racing you want to limit (not eliminate) slip to allow inertia to fling the vehicle forward without burning off grip for a good launch. Radials however don't like tyrespin so it becomes more meticulous to keep them down and rolling out for best starts!

[@Raynolds007]

As much I would love to play the GT series, I can never get used to the weird camera movement when car begins to turn...its like whole track just moves instead of the car...its hard to explain but watch a rally/drift video in 3rd person camera view and you will know what I am talking about

[@RAZGR1Z]

I have no idea why concept cars are not in their own category for multiplayer. Gran Turismo is supposed to be the "Real Driving Simulator". It's not Hot Wheels.

[@dsphotographyedinburgh4973]

I died with laughter when your brakes mysteriously stopped working and karma'd the guy in the Porsche 🤣🤣🤣

[@gavalant366]

Forza horizon players with the Boneshaker dominating multiplayer: First time?

[@scootmccracken]

These things were a menace in GT Sport on the "offline* races

[@ep1981]

The pop-up headlights on the GTO are cool, though do the lights actually come on? They don't seem to make any difference to the illumination.

[@kriskater]

Yeah they do

[@Darklord_tK]

They do but because it's in broad daylight you really can't see them

[@TomYearby]

Red Rock Valley Speedway and Apricot Hill Speedway would be great additions. Maybe Tahiti Road Circuit too.

[@bFOURdwZEROlf]

CLUBMAN ROUTE 5, SEATTLE, AND GRINDELWALD, AND RED ROCK VALLEY ALL NEED TO JOIN THE RE-IMAGINED TRACKS

[@legendary4570]

It’s pretty cool how the car actually has an an active KERS system.

[@sarpz3248]

Idk why but at 0:54 you sounded just like Lewis’s engineer Bono . It was similar to the line that he said during Abu Dhabi GP after Verstappen pitted for softs : D ( So the situation is Verstappen has pitted )

[@DitisMike]

The skyline are actually RWD but the manufacturer made a system that when it loses a certain amount of grip it turns into a 4WD

[@ajarizpe]

@5:34 "the brakes not being good" after adding a 200 kg ballast and not upgrading brakes to compensate for that extra 20% in weight.

[@zertyf7427]

Reminds me of the KTM Xbow stomping the competition againts sport cars in previous games