Gran Turismo 7: Why is This Car Winning Everything?

[@AdamS32828]

It would be cool to see specific conditions for tuning races, such as only being allowed to use stock and sports parts, or a one-make race with unlimited tuning restrictions, or having to use a turbocharger/supercharger as part of your tune, etc. and this could work really well for both single player or multiplayer races

[@DdraigRazgriz]

I would say that these kind of "race restrictions" would be the best thing to happen for gt7. I would feel like you're racing in a spec-ish series, or, in some length on the same "class" of cars. Those vague race conditions for only power and weight opens too much room for unfair abuse of some game exploit. Or worse, it will end up like forza horizon multi-player.

[@litreocola6447]

I think that’s already going to happen. Seems super open to limiting certain aspects of car performance. Maybe we’ll see drivetrain and aspiration-limited classes in the future too?

[@McSniffle]

Has Polyphony ever interacted and adjusted what they're doing based on player feedback?

[@wololo10]

No

[@stitchcompany291]

Best outcome possible is to let individuals host race lobbies with their own rules, restrictions, track and class selections... The first 3-4 forza series did it right and it blows my mind how many developers get this wrong.

[@zorzil]

This is exactly the kind of thing I was fearing would happen in GT7. I was so happy when I did my first Daily Race B and saw a big variety of cars being used, but now there are more and more Peugeot hybrids and the number of 'normal' cars I see is gradually decreasing. If the L500R ends up being the go-to for all road car races, it's really going to take away a lot of the appeal GT7 had for me. I know I'm voluntarily handicapping myself sticking with my Mitsubishi GTO, but I can't help but see it as going against the spirit of the game pulling out a VGT hybrid in a road car race - the very first road car race at that.

[@MyloSkeng]

It definitely won't, it's only been 5 days, it's just been a very annoying 5 days. When they bring proper BoP races people will be happier, but the L500R is just broken

[@dma968]

they should ban vgts they utilize futuristic sometimes borderline non existent technology which gives them an unfair edge

[@Swarm509]

People who are good at these things will go over the cars and find what is "best" for min/maxing and everyone else will follow along. It is the same thing in the latest Forza, and easier with the sharable tunes, and any other game with in depth mods. I also play Escape from Tarkov and it is full of this mentality. While it may not be optimal I say race what you find fun and tune it/drive as best you can.

[@pogtuber5146]

Yeap, Forza Horizon 4 and 5 should have been a lesson in how NOT to do multiplayer

[@thefearhawk8805]

As someone who came from sports and is mostly interested in daily races the fucking peugeot was in every race I made since mondy. I refuse to buy the shit thing. Using it is like playing COD on playstation, but with mouse and keyboard and crossplay deactivated. Its just a cowardly dick move. I have no eespect for the guys using it...

[@samuelsiltala119]

Daily races need to be based on performance points (PP) much more often. Look at Super GT`s Peugeot VGT PP (626 after de-tuning) and compare to Skyline R34 used by Super GT (580 PP). PP apparently takes into account the hybrid advantage pretty well. Almost a 10% difference in PP between R34 and VGT, that is a massive difference.

[@CalculatedRiskAK]

Yeah I just noticed that the daily race didn't take into account the PP. What the heck were they thinking? The PP system isn't so bad, but they're not using it.

[@redstonewatcher6651]

“Hey we’re adding PP back” “But we don’t trust you with it. Have fun with this system that is arguably worse than BoP!”

[@theitalianjojo3440]

@@CalculatedRiskAK What I'm guessing is that, since the game released less than one week ago, PD is still trying to see how to balance stuff. *I think* they decided to go with this, see how tuning goes, see if there is something too op/too nerfed and then take balancing actions based on the data you have at your disposal. Or at least that's what I think it's happening.

[@huleyn135]

@@theitalianjojo3440 they cannot do this wishy washy slow balancing bs they did with sport.

[@theitalianjojo3440]

@@huleyn135 if balancing was fast and could be done with a snap of your fingers, it wouldn't be a "slow balancing bs"; problem is, it's slow, and you can't avoid it for multiple reasons: 1) you need data, tons of data, in order to know what needs to be done to buff something underused and nerf something overused, with no data, or not enough of it, you can't do that simply because you can't know what to do; 2) meta and anti-meta picks: a "meta" is what people use the most, aka, what is trending in usage because it's strong, while an "anti-meta" is a counter that can deal with the meta effectively, sometimes even becoming the new meta. In the case of daily race b, you had a meta (4WD cars such as Skylines) pretty much dominating, then you have someone discovering an anti-meta (the L500R) which then became the meta because of how strong it is. Now, over time the meta usually stabilizes around a pick, unless changes (such as nerfing/buffing something, or doscovering an anti-meta, or a new entry becoming a new meta or an anti-meta) happen, and those changes are required since otherwise the meta pick would monopolize the competition; 3) users enjoyability: no one wants to get washed every time because of an unbalanced meta, and developers know that very well. Simply put, people dislike losing, and the fix to this is balancing the meta, again, through various means. Tl;dr you need time to balance stuff and it's complicated.

[@vash_dakari]

The more things change, the more they stay the same. I remember this car being overpowered in GT6 as well, frequently used in the time trials due to the hybrid boost. Kind of gave it a pass back then because it was a "GT Vision" car, and those were always filled with virtual alien technologies; why most of them were relegated to the X class and one make races. Without any changes though, I'm sure we'll see the same cars getting used over and over again in GT7 as well. Just waiting for the videos about the Chaparral 2J now.

[@igotnoodlesgold9193]

is that one srt tomahawk car in the new grand turismo game ?

[@E9X330]

@@igotnoodlesgold9193 yes

[@averagegt7player917]

That Peugeot wasn’t in GT6. Only in GTS.

[@RacingHardTV]

I think you mean the Nissan GTR VGT. That had Electric Boost

[@theepicgamer84]

Oh god the 2J. That thing is probably the most OP car in GT history 💀

[@mrrodriguezHLP]

The Peugeot hybrid really takes the spirit out of this race. But oh well, hopefully Polyphony lives and learns.

[@henrik1743]

They should've learned by this point

[@MM-rf8ml]

No its the gt2 ford gt replacement. Its a nod to history. 🤣

[@maxsanchez764]

I don't mind lol reminds me of hot wheels

[@HeyMaruniko]

no they are not, they are messed up the classification of car performance since GT2

[@nicelittlerunner]

They’ve had 25 years to learn. Now failures are in the ethos of the game and rectifying them is very ‘assetto Corsa’

[@velorama-x]

Hybrid power is mostly done by lap 4, but there's still a minor amount that is recuperated and used on corner exit.

[@deimantas2754]

it's a good day when the one and only super gt uploads a video

[@Super_GT]

Thank you viewer, Super GT here.

[@94nolo]

Indeed.

[@deimantas2754]

@Super GT hello super gt, viewer here

[@ana_92_]

@@Super_GT Can you please share your wheel settings? I'd like to try your settings because i bet they are a lot better than mine so game comes even more enjoyable. I have CSL Elite PS4 & Clubsport V3

[@Awesome__Sawse]

1:43it sounds like he caught himself about to say "it just fucks off..."

[@chriswilson7110]

I would love to see Seattle come back too, I loved that track back in the day

[@wyt_boi]

Best track ever 😍 i remember that f*ckin 8h endurance race lol...

[@lillexus5589]

Road Atlanta/Road America

[@JeanPineau44]

Abused Seattle back on GT2 on PS1, it would give you a car that you could sell for quite a bit of money, a few hours of grind and i could finally buy the dream : Suzuki Escudo Pikes Peak 😁

[@TheBender402]

The pop up Headlights coming up everytime you hit tunnel was just beautiful

[@tonywells715]

Note the little red/green arrows to either lower side of the "hybrid battery" icon. I believe that indicates whether you're draining battery (red arrow shows under full throttle) or recharging battery (shows green under braking) I think this would also account for the brakes feeling heavier. If you could feather the throttle just below wide open when it's unnecessary to be wide open...you may be able to stretch a full 4 laps with 100% hybrid assisted power

[@MJL1912]

15:59 I love how just after he hits the wall we briefly see him get a penalty😂😂

[@bduddy55555]

They could tweak it so hybrids start with their batteries empty instead of full, then they wouldn't get the massive boost down the entire straight like in the first 3 laps, but be more like the 4th lap and balanced.

[@Spg-93]

Even better get rid of them...they need to fight their own class.

[@WynnofThule]

Either that or they could be at a relatively low amount of power, maybe 1/4? Would keep things alot more interesting.

[@Secunder]

Yep, they could take a pitstop to recharge and try to overtake other cars for example

[@WynnofThule]

@@Secunder I'd imagine it'd use the engine to do recharging in the pitlane, but I don't think they'd hook it up to a fast charger or whatever.

[@Secunder]

@@WynnofThule I know its not realistic, but recharging at pit stop would be interesting.

[@S1X_Bucks]

A video on the tuning would be cool. Like a walk through of what each section means and what they do. Is they're any adjustments that should be made across most vehicles?

[@ATLsF1N3ST91]

You can just press □ on every section and it gives you a full breakdown of what it does...

[@salted_duck9185]

You should lower basically every car, as much as it's allowed. Makes your car steer better, but gives it a slighlty lower topspeed, which is negligible. Same goes for Downforce, but make it as strong as possible

[@S1X_Bucks]

@@ATLsF1N3ST91 ya but I still don't fully understand the terminology they use in the tips.

[@NOTnightowl]

Tuning can be intimidating because of how much every car differs. Some things like lowering the car will help in general, but I’d recommend loading into a time trial while messing with the tuning of components one at a time to actually feel how each adjustment effects the car. This is honestly how I learned tuning back in GT5 because, admittedly I didn’t understand the terminology much either lol. But it does work! Plus your tunes end up more personalized, complimenting your individual driving style.

[@S1X_Bucks]

@@NOTnightowl that's for the help

[@K9RacingAndStuff]

Hybris unfortunately has been overpowered since GT6; The Toyota TS030 was a 600PP leaderboard staple in back in GT6 because you didn't have to do much to detune it to that level and well, having an unaccounted for 300 HP is always a massive advantage to any vehicle.

[@shorty808100]

The ts030 is a real life LMP1 car

[@pancake5830]

difference is that it is actually a real car

[@Saltibancos89]

I don't think taking out the hybrid would make the peugeot competitive, but starting with 0% hybrid power stored would be the call, as the car regenerates some power when braking and that will give and bit of an acceleration out of every corner of as it happens on lap 4

[@willyjimmy8881]

Be interesting to know how they're geared. My guess is they're relying on the torque from EV motor to get out of the corners with the rest of traffic, but the higher gearing allows them to stay in the gasoline engine's powerband longer down the straights. Once that battery is used up their handicapped the same as the rest of the field. How's the acceleration out of the slow to mid speed turns? That would be the tell.

[@8thlvlMage]

This car looks like the secret car you'd have to unlock in a Hot Wheels game, and blows everything away like one too.

[@PavloxMotions]

The boneshaker of GT7 LOL. This was always bound to happen with the tuning thing and it will only get worse meta wise just like in forza..

[@goob8945]

😂 rage fills my veins any time I set eyes on a boneshaker. I’m not allowed in toys r’us because I keep destroying the hot wheels shelves 😤

[@Swarm509]

Yup. The only fix to this is a strong mix of different restrictions and requirements for different races to force different cars. One will still get "meta" cars and setups in each one but it should be a lot easier to try out different setups and cars.

[@pearsetraynor9142]

This isn't a tuning problem though, its explicitly the hybrid mode thats causing the issue

[@litreocola6447]

@@pearsetraynor9142 bunch of things, not just hybrid make it quick: low drag, awd, etc.. all of that is unregulated in a power-to-weight class. When the r32 was fastest early in the week people were complaining that awd was too powerful. Reserve judgement for the PP classes

[@mhj360]

I haven’t played GT since Sport when I last had a PS4 in 2018, but when I was playing that game the BOP generally made things feel fair and accessible. There may have been a car which was more suitable for certain tracks than others, but at least over the course of a season it would balance out. Tuning has had exactly the effect I feared it would in GT7 - an obviously meta car and the need to scour KZbin or forums for the best tune, just to not finish outside the top 10. Not exactly ideal for people that don’t have the time to commit to hours of research and tuning, not to mention the grind for in game credits. I have faith that Polyphony will be monitoring the state of play and hope they will respond to the criticism, but this launch week has put a bit of a dampener on my enthusiasm for multiplayer in GT7 at the moment.

[@cf7gaming277]

This car being OP is not because of tuning. It is due to it being a hybrid. Tuning has nothing to do with it.

[@nastynooby6204]

Just look up ams dood like everyone else does for tuning for the week

[@avl5214]

@@nastynooby6204 nobody wants to do that

[@shorty808100]

You know every week you gotta tune 3 or more new cars you do realize that right, BoP’d racing was about skill not who could find the OP car or OP tune and just beat ppl on straight line speed alone basically it’s Forza, no one is playing multiplayer even open lobbies are empty that’s not a good sign for the game think GT7 is gonna flop everything they said the game was gonna be like 2 1/2-3 years ago it isn’t it’s a polished turd

[@TheChill001]

@@shorty808100 maybe if they simply didn't focus on multiplayer, it wouldn't flop so bad. Because let's face it, GT was never about multiplayer and now it just feels as if they failed on both ends of the game...pathetic

[@francisco3283]

It looks like that scene in Cars 3 where the next gen hypercars leave Lightning McQueen in the dust😂

[@captlowrez5455]

YES!!! Special stage route 5 was my all time favorite track!!!! With these graphics/physics.... They most definitely need to bring that one back!

[@HazyJ28]

I would LOVE to see Seattle again. me and my brother used to love racing around that circuit on GT3

[@morbid1.]

I must admit I like fact that you can use different cars that just need to fit weight and power stats... it feels like good old Gran Turismo

[@KZC_smont_17]

man I'm litterally addicted to your commentary and how good you are on GT.Keep it supa gt

[@BeastV33]

I enjoy the sarcasm after that got cut over and you couldnt spot your braking line ;)

[@hdaviator9181]

Not a fan of allowing these fake cars in multiplayer. I think they need to make fake car only races. And make the rest for real cars.

[@jasonburrell4903]

Kid U do know that U can prohibit these in Ur lobby settings ....

[@Locke1gamingarmy]

@@jasonburrell4903 talking about the daily races bud

[@Super_GT]

@@jasonburrell4903 this is a daily race rather than a custom lobby.

[@fartimusmaximus8710]

@@jasonburrell4903 you calling someone a kid but use "U" to spell you . Get out of here "kid"

[@PeterTeal77]

I'm sorry to tell you, but all the cars are fake. It's a video game.

[@maxsanchez764]

It’s like acceleracers when you’re racing against drones 😭😭

[@mattlade250]

I'm glad to see you used the GTO, that's been my go to car for this race since I didn't have the R34. But I've been using your R34 tune on the GTO and it still works pretty well. I think that's down to how good of a job they did balancing the tuning and performance for this race

[@Super_GT]

Yeah I think a very basic tune is to add racing engine parts (intercooler, air filter etc), the best brakes, weight reduction, then reduce horsepower as necessary.

[@mattlade250]

@@Super_GT I agree. Would love to see more videos on tuning. This is all new to me in the GT world. And I'd love to race against Scott Speed sometime if he is still active in the Americas

[@RiskninjaYT]

Drawing a lot of parallels here with the Boneshaker in FH5. Weird fictional car that doesn't fit in dominates everything else ruining the races for everyone that doesn't use them

[@jmathews5212]

Steve, thanks for the great content.. I am really quite concerned about where Multiplayer is going. As a part time racer with many a RL commitment I have always enjoyed the pickup and play aspects of GT. As you've said in your videos it's the accessibility of the franchise which attracts you to it. I really like the idea you recently shared where maybe MP could have races which allow tuning and races which don't. Perhaps they would get to eventually where the tuning stuff is for the elite level racing and the rest of us mere mortals can have our normal MP racing. I bet the non-tune racing would get much more participation as I am certainly shying away from MP at the moment... sorry for the long comment.

[@64fairlane305]

1:25 accelration is basicly weight divided by tourque, that`s much of the answer. On top of that, these hybrids has close to none air-resistance, a low center weight & fat rubber

[@WynnofThule]

They should start this car in a lower state of charge, half, third, quarter, or maybe even no charge would be interesting. If that makes it too slow, buff regen. Having around a lap of extra pace at the start might be interesting, but three laps is just busted.

[@alexroman8576]

the thing is polyphony is so obsessed with realism idk if they'd do that, they honestly just need to give its own category

[@WynnofThule]

@@alexroman8576 I think both a fully charged and fully empty battery are "realistic" enough situations in their own ways. I could imagine an irl hybrid series doing either or.

[@alexroman8576]

@@WynnofThule trueee

[@The3dits]

OMG, just want to thank you for using my Nissan GT-R livery! So glad you liked it enough to use it in your game! Means so much! Thank you!

[@damn6039]

It's the same thing in EVERY game, there'll always be something that becomes the meta and stay ahead of the pack Nerf it and the playerbase finds the next best thing and the cycle continues

[@litreocola6447]

That’s why you need to have very precise performance measurement. A one size fits all formula like forza will leave huge uncertainty in performance. Ideally, your performance rating changes based on the RACE ITSELF. So a 10 lap race at daytona with tire wear has different PP requirements than a 4 lap tsukuba race with no consumption for example

[@Miguel-th3wx]

@@litreocola6447 even that will create a META car.

[@kevinqi7992]

@@Miguel-th3wx everything creates a meta car, you cannot avoid that. even in gt sport, every race had its favorite GT3 car. The issue with GT7 is that, unlike GTS, the meta car for this race basically cannot be defeated through skill in a fair and clean battle. you have to count on the peugeot driver driving absolutely terribly or visiting the shadow realm

[@priceyocto1686]

That is why i hate meta in ALL games, it just ruins diversity.

[@Skumtomten1]

You are right, but I remember in Forza Motorsport 4 there was a huge variety of cars in both A and S class which I raced. There were only a couple of "op" cars, like the Lotus elise and Exige, but there was some kind of a gentlemen's agreement to not use these cars. Only the bad drivers used them so it didn't matter. Forza 4 was one of the most balanced games I have ever played honestly.

[@AndreasNV]

9:44 "one-all in old switcharoos" brilliant

[@maxsanchez764]

tbh I'm used to the peugot vgt cars racing with me because it gives me hot wheels vibes hahaha. Pretty common in hw games you drive with modern and classic cars mixed with futuristic ones. Heck, racing with them feels like I'm racing with the drones like in acceleracers lol. (I saw one that actually had the racing drone livery on it)

[@thatoneguy-yt]

Hey Super GT, I have been watching now for several years on other accounts and I loved every video of yours that I watched and you made me want to pursue becoming a content creator of the GT series. Thank you Super GT.❤️

[@sekutofu6471]

in the restriction of the races it says "road cars only" they should just add hybrid cars aren't allowed and the problem is fixed

[@jarvisnelson1878]

I really appreciate the helpful tips for newer players, such as "I'm in first place, which is the whole point of racing," and "Turning right into the barrier on the straight is not what you want to be doing."

[@Dutch_Chucky]

Gt7 pls notice me, nitrous is more PP when installed, so mabey have an option to set hybrid or ERS to on and off, and when on, add PP to the car

[@joelduffie6201]

"I thought, you know what, lets try and spring a surprise, get in there nice and early and get the job done. And I think it worked, well, it definitely worked, because I'm in first place, which is the whole point of racing." - yet another golden piece of dialogue

[@arctic3od450]

There's definitely a lack of multiplayer content at the moment. I was very disappointed to find out that the Daily Races aren't actually daily, and at least for now not even weekly. It's a shame, this is the time when the content should be there if it's gonna be there. Before people get bored with the game.

[@ClonesDream]

Sounds like a soup of the day that doesn't change for months lol

[@andrewhezekiahdaniel]

There's going to be tons of content added over the next few months and years.

[@ClonesDream]

@@andrewhezekiahdaniel Which should have been released as part of the base game but ok

[@andrewhezekiahdaniel]

@@ClonesDream Lol, no the game was in development for several years already. Like it or not, the game is a 'live service' and lots of added content will arrive in the coming years, much of it free. It's 2022, not 1993 mate.

[@Astro_405]

I normally don't comment but just want to say thank you for making such amazing videos. I just cracked up at the Barry R joke (wasn't necessarily that funny) but it made my day that much better. Thank you.

[@nopoint30]

16:50 INTERESTING! I didn't notice that concrete patch on the inside, it actually reduces grip by the looks of it. That's really neat

[@kurtweber4813]

Tracks to come back are grindelwald (Switzerland), Seattle (America), Midfield raceway and Special stage Route 5 as well. Lets hope for these great tracks to make a return for the real enthusiast.👍all the best from Australia

[@99FinLander66]

tbh im huge fan of the tuning given the nostalgia from old Gran Turismos : D

[@blknightsixtyfo]

At 9:55 its called a double pass. Usually it means the rear car over shot and had to brake longer effective loseing what they gained brakeing late. It's the sign of being desperate for position or a misjudgements.

[@kronzomg]

The battery only discharges when the wheel is straight or close to, and you're accelerating. It does recharge when you lift (green up arrow rather than red down arrow) Simple strategy in the l500. Go hard first lap. Then simply lift before corners for the remainder of the race. 100m before braking zone after straights for example. And if you're well in the lead, just lift and coast anywhere you want. Battery will be saved for if/when you actually have someone come from behind to properly challenge you. Needless to say you need to be able to put together reasonable lap times in the first place to get, and then maintain your lead. To be clear - no other cars apart from other L500s should be of any threat to you after 2 laps. Pull a 5 second lead, and then let them get close as they want, you'll always re-take the lead on a straight assuming you've properly managed energy. All you need to do is maintain enough battery to stay in the lead, no more no less.

[@jacobwebster6315]

Your commentary is legendary when there’s carnage

[@bravejango12]

Can you change the regenerative braking and hybrid power usage settings? If so you might be able to extend the battery life and really make this thing a monster.

[@stevennewsome8769]

I like the Bugatti VGT. Lots of hp. Over 1000 even when applying the power restrictor and ballast. Used it on the VGT Menu Book, and it dominated.

[@joekornblith903]

Call me crazy but I really liked the online for gt sport better. The tuning aspect introduces an element that I am just not really a fan of

[@avbsvideo]

Me too.

[@kak8895]

Just admit you're noob at tuning and don't care about what goes on under the hood to make a great setup.

[@joekornblith903]

@@kak8895 no it just feels like forza now lol, I love forza but GT was more of the competition and racing skill for me

[@kak8895]

@@joekornblith903 Asides GTSport, when was GT ever about competition and racing? The upgrades/tuning is what's been considered a full GT game for two decades. You're just bad at tuning cause folks like you are more pleased about driving than building. You shy away

[@b0ris360]

@@kak8895 Tuning ruins the game. It massively decreases the player base and results in unbalanced races. You want to tune the car because you cant beat players when the cars are the same. Am I doing this right?

[@WynnofThule]

9:45 my man really just said Crazy for Love

[@dmvercosa]

What would happen if you brought a heavily-tuned Honda Fit Hybrid? I wonder what the pace of other hybrid cars is against the Peugeot.

[@williambrandon9660]

9:50 omfg I saw that switch a roo loading too that was too clean :')

[@mulletsquirrel]

I wonder if the pop up headlights on the GTO affect the aerodynamics in game?

[@iainnoble4]

I am in awe of the driving skills you display in these videos. I will continue to use all the driver assists I can get in beginner mode. Currently there is a lot of bad feeling towards the online only restriction as the servers are down and the fact that the rewards for many races have been reduced. I don't recall such criticism of previous GT games?

[@twan329]

Best of luck at Williams this year

[@dream.machine]

Great content, I love your racing gaming videos! I can't wait to get GT7, I haven't played Gran Turismo in years and I can't wait to get back into gaming.

[@Jorcap]

Its a GT thing. In GT Sport its usually a Japanese tuned RX7 or likewise. Always 1 car ahead of the rest

[@MyloSkeng]

I think the issue is this car is significantly better to the point where it's not even 'meta' it's just better, R32 is probably the actual meta car because it's slightly better than the rest, but not like this 😅

[@boolin8286]

@@MyloSkeng Yeah. I'm alright with a 'meta' car, it's inevitable. The trick to it is having the meta car not be so overwhelmingly better than everything else. It should still require a minimum of skill to get pole position in it. If someone is faster in a slightly slower car performance wise, you would know that they are just better. In something like the Peugeot, there isn't really any competition.

[@sarpz3248]

Idk why but at 0:54 you sounded just like Lewis’s engineer Bono . It was similar to the line that he said during Abu Dhabi GP after Verstappen pitted for softs : D ( So the situation is Verstappen has pitted )

[@bryan34wable]

My beef is this car being allowed in the race. The criteria is a “Road car.” That VGT doesn’t even exist.

[@Polaventris]

Also the daily races do seem to be weekly races, even though it clearly says DAILY on it.

[@adf286]

1 million credits for a fake car that’s overpowered and is running the multiplayer racing experience? I didn’t know this was gta online

[@gurulaghima6518]

Sometimes I have trouble sleeping but your videos really help me to relax Thank you so much, you've made me get some really nice nights and I can't thank you enough

[@BadDrummerCarl]

I mean the R34 Vspec probably produces 320hp+ standard but the japanese rated all cars 276 because of the power wars. Also the L500 labelled as a 'road car' is hilarious

[@Rainmanthereal]

Nice clip mate ! I love your sense of humour while you are describing the race ! Very funny bloke stuff right here.

[@knightofvirtue613]

Never thought I'd see the day when an R34 gets left in the dust like that. I don't think these cars should be allowed to run against real cars. Also - brilliant racing mate! Clean passing (unless others want to race dirty) and excellent cornering with the GTO

[@matthewshedden3567]

I was enjoying the variety as people were exploring different and favourite cars but now it’s morphed into how it was in GT Sport where everyone was using the Megane in Gr4 races and the 911 RSR is Gr3

[@Zuichi100]

I think the reason the Peugeot is so fast is because it makes zero drag just look at it🤤

[@Super_GT]

Good shout tbf!!

[@emmata98]

yeah, that makes sence, since the active aero then aids massively with downforce

[@litreocola6447]

Yes, this was power-to-weight meaning flat torque curves, low drag, and low centres of gravity are unchecked. Makes it interesting to see what concept wins overall in the end

[@spawnreloaded4423]

Deep forest was always a challenge for me depending on the car in GT 1and2..., glad to hear u highlighted that point... Good race

[@ascgazz]

+1 for Seattle. Also Grand Valley!! Blasting across that bridge with these graphics… yes.

[@leonkenedy4616]

This car is like the Opresor Mk II of GTA 7

[@Skateandcreate9]

Gta 5

[@andreisolomka4847]

loving the content, keep it coming :)

[@BypassFishing]

@Super GT Try the ferrari 458 italia '09 It is the fastest and best handling car for me but I'm slow. I think YOU could get under 1:30 on race 2 daily with it.

[@XenoDeki]

They just need to nerf hybrids by raising the PP rating of identical cars like these based on their OVERALL HP to avoid exploits in the future either that or just remove hybrids from the said race. EZ Fix. Poor oversight by the game devs to not consider the "combined" HP of hybrids at 100% and just part of it.

[@litreocola6447]

This didn’t use PP tho, it’s power to weight with tire reetrictions. Not the same thing

[@litreocola6447]

Please let’s not fear-monger. Give time for the devs to see patterns in the player exploits of cars and let them adjust accordingly. Every reactionary change has a long list of unintended consequences

[@CarHookedVidz]

This was one video were couldn't take my "siesta". Good job Steve, very proud

[@Challenger160]

Does the Honda nsx have a hybrid system in this game similar to the Peugeot? Interested in knowing if something similar would happen with that car

[@Buzykil]

NSX weights about as much as an aircraft carrier. I don't think its weight can be reduced to 1,2 tons

[@NikoKyunKyun]

@@Buzykil aircraft carrier would still float on water

[@demarcot]

Your videos just bring serenity to my day, and I don't even play GT

[@mikehipperson]

That car is dominating because it doesn't exist except in the game!

[@thefearhawk8805]

But its also dominating because the people who use it have no dignity or honor, because otherwise the would not use it. Even if its allowed.....its just spineless and kinda disrespectful to use it.

[@rovingenglishman]

Interesting. Just shows how novel this concept is to all of us, including game devs. How do we treat the new generation of electric and hybrid cars? This is all new territory and a unique time in automotive history.

[@rolirolster]

It's a simple fix, make the races 6 laps, that way the hybrids will get brought back at the end once they have no power and it'll be close racing.

[@Czmlol]

Except the fact that the hybrids still perform practically on par without the additional power.

[@rolirolster]

@@Czmlol No they don't. They handle terribly and you could see in the vid, after Steve ran out of batteries he was topping 139 mph, but in the Audi it was around 150. So yeah, I reckon it would work, worth a try.

[@mafiousbj]

So hybrid gives them more torque because of the electric motor and active aero helps with braking and even cornering )or at least it should if the physics are modeled right, no drag in the straights but pops up when needed in the corners)....yeah those things don´t get reflected in a race where you enter based only on horsepower and weight....they need to add some other car qualities to the ecuation or make it start at 50% hybrid power

[@hullymichael]

If they dont fix balance issues between cars in the same race then i just dont see online being enjoyable at all. Would hate to start a race in a different car and just not be capable of overtaking or winning unless you have the “OP” car for that week.

[@bwest6275]

agree 100

[@theguardianwolf7206]

Nothing really op other than allowing VGT cars in the race. Other than that tubing allows for a wider variety of cars to be successful on track

[@kriskater]

@@theguardianwolf7206 fair enough

[@edwardgarner7498]

I deeply respect your calmness playing multiplayer. I dont believe i could keep my cool, so , i never try. Instead i will try to be a good player in normal/ story mode. Hats off to all those who can keep it clean.

[@Jackwhite08]

Yes another upload

[@maxthunder2]

I don't know how common knowledge this is but a good upgrade to put on your car is the "steering angle kit" that's in the extreme section of the tuning shop! It's supposed to be used for drifting what it actually does is just make the car easier to drive!

[@truckercowboyed2638]

Like would it help my GT350 from stepping out on corner exit ???

[@maxthunder2]

@@truckercowboyed2638 it works for my C3 Corvette, GT500 Supra and Miata! I haven't tried my R32 but I imagine it works too!

[@PERPowns]

They should do a daily race with the L500 only and take it out of everything else. Seems asinine they would let this slide. I kind of like the idea of starting the hybrid out at 0% but that really only delays the inevitable imo. Would be worth a shot though I suppose!

[@yuutify]

11:49 "I could edit in some explosions there" - super Gt I feel cheated due to the lack of explosions

[@liquidsnakex]

🚙💥💥💥🚗🔥

[@yuutify]

@@liquidsnakex thank you

[@turbohulk7989]

Can you recharge the battery by holding brakes like 5% abit before actual braking point just like we did with audi R18 gr1 in GT Sport?

[@Torchedini]

It does give the green regen arrow when he's braking so I would suppose that is happening

[@turbohulk7989]

@@Torchedini yeah then you can manage it for all 4 laps or more

[@mattr791]

The regen rate is too low to matter

[@dsphotographyedinburgh4973]

I died with laughter when your brakes mysteriously stopped working and karma'd the guy in the Porsche 🤣🤣🤣

[@litreocola6447]

To everyone saying they need to ban cars and drivetrains already, chill out. Power-to-weight classes are the simplest form of BOP and as a result leave a lot to be interpreted. A car with a low drag coefficient, awd and a hybrid power unit will be better as a package than a boxy fwd hot hatch. Until PP is used I don’t think there’s anything to worry about. Plus, power-to-weight classes can change easily so an existing meta could be obsolete, meaning sticking with the previous meta cars doesn’t guarantee success

[@spongeborgtheford4971]

The main problem is that having a hybrid ruins the point of a power-weight class. There's literally more power than allowed

[@litreocola6447]

@@spongeborgtheford4971is it actually only getting its horsepower rating from the ICE only? I don’t think that’s right, it’s probably just the fact hybrids can accelerate harder and this car in particular has probably a really low drag coefficient

[@samuelsiltala119]

Well said, they need to have mostly only PP daily races, since that measurement works and gives variety. Power and weight restrictions only, and you end up with this silliness lol.

[@spongeborgtheford4971]

@@litreocola6447 yes it is. Did you watch the video?

[@spongeborgtheford4971]

@@samuelsiltala119 it's not that bad, literally just that one car is busted because the hybrid power rating isn't being calculated properly.

[@poparabin2233]

Hi Steve i love how you care about us posting 1 video a day ty man

[@litreocola6447]

K, let’s not overreact. This was a power-to-weight class, meaning aero efficiency, but most importantly torque curves, are not taken into account for eligibility. Until we see daily races with PP ratings we won’t know for sure if it’s gonna be unbalanced or not yet. My opinion is the PP rating MUST be simulated for the RACE DURATION of the daily race itself, not a static rating like the ones in forza. That way if the track chosen is a power track the PP rating required accounts for that. Or if tire wear and fuel consumption is included, the total race distance with average fuel saving and driving aggression is taken into consideration over the race distance

[@tomanderson6335]

Polyphony only counting a hybrid's combustion engine output toward the horsepower limit for an event seems like a big freakin' oversight that never should have made it past the alpha stage...but what do I know?

[@jmirsp4z]

they need to ban imaginary cars from online racing.

[@EmpanadaDeCaca]

Agree. They look so out of place. You have these JDM cars racing in Tsukuba when this penis looking space car comes flying at full speed.

[@Mysticdevil98]

I love the way you say barrier. Keep up the vids man.

[@emeraldarts]

Yeah I am of the opinion that if the multiplayers are using this car , then make a race for a "HYBRID" - No point is using other cars against hybrids it's like a transgender man playing woman's football. The race should be fair.

[@Drew.DrivesYT]

I would love to see the return of all the old Special Stage routes - 5, 7, the Clubman and 11. El Capitan and Midfield get special mentions as well, always loved those two courses.