Hints about the Luxu reveal that we NEVER NOTICED!

[@ProdigyxCD]

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[@LtBasil]

For all KH3's issues, I think there's one thing that most of us can agree on... Xigbar was absolutely perfect.

[@tomboyjessie1352]

Agreed.

[@raayyy801]

Absolutely.

[@Rex13013]

No.

[@TheJaredPunch]

Lt. Basil I am worthy

[@Griffnix]

Been a fan of him since Birth By Sleep. It's a shame a recommended video spoiled the reveal in both the title and thumbnail before the game came out.

[@spakel9196]

Xigbar/Luxus plot twist was superbly handled in my opinion, so much build up even in character bios . For example In kh2 it references how he has his own agenda. I still don't believe nomura planned this out 100%, but he always wanted good ol' xiggy to have a bigger role, and he did a fine job. Another notable thing being he was the one who recruited Marly to the org, who'd he'd absolutely be aware of. So you win this round nomura

[@ProdigyxCD]

Yeah I mentioned that in the past video on this topic! It's sooo cool how there's so many hints to look back for!!

[@MasutaMJ]

All this altruism is giving me the warm and fuzzies.

[@KiomonDuck]

My head nearly popped off in that cutscene. I'm pretty good at avoiding spoilers and that would have killed me if I found out early.

[@machine1685]

11:41 More than anything THIS moment set off so many alarms. The whole 'Olympus' scene went right over my head during my first playthrough but that "death scene" didn't. I even told me brother right after "He's not dead. No one is dead unless you see a body." I just didn't think that he was Luxu.

[@KuroStrawberryX]

I actually said to my sister "Wait! Is he one of those old masters?!" I didnt guess Luxu though so when I saw that cutscene I was straight buggin! Idk why I didn't put all that shit together to guess he was Luxu!!

[@machine1685]

@@KuroStrawberryX To be fair, we knew so little about Luxu that any guess would've been just as good as guessing that he was the MoM. What I'm curious about is if he always had "As if" as his catchphrase or if he picked it up along the way.

[@tiramichu]

I thought they did that to keep it pg, no one wants to see his disfigured figure after falling from that kind of height

[@michaeloliver5892]

When have we *ever* seen a body in Kingdom Hearts? Everyone just dissolves.

[@machine1685]

@@michaeloliver5892 That's what I mean. All of the Org. Members dissolved on screen. Xigbar was the only one to not have dissolved on screen.

[@DemiTrusdale3]

I loved how luxu was a team player yet he literally did have other plans. Constantly alluding while following, while the other members were just blindly going with the flow, playing dumb.

[@venny-ip7ks]

Also, I think it is interesting to note that in KHII:FM Xigbar says he found and recruited Marluxia/Lauriam. In fact, the entire conversation he has with Zexion is interesting now. He really is always watching. And there is a tiny moment in 358/2 Days that didn’t make the movie cut where Xigbar is listening in on a conversation between Xion and Axel in which Xion finds a boy who looks just like Roxas in Castle Oblivion (aka Ventus).

[@lilli7040]

You know it's scenes like these that makes me wonder why they didn't bother to make 365/2 a game instead of the horrendous CoM which honestly should have just been a movie... there was so much filler in the game that could have been cut in that game after all..

[@tigerfestivals5137]

@@lilli7040 Because they didnt have to do any extra work to make Re:CoM a game. It was already out on PS2.

[@hk-4733]

@@lilli7040 they'd have to COMPLETELY remake a DS only game it would take way to long to make entirely and i don't think they would want to butcher it

[@TheDoremifan1]

Pretty sure she was talking about Sora.

[@alja4991]

@@lilli7040 Because CoM has an actually exciting story and... passable gameplay whereas most of Days' plot is repetitive and the gameplay really, REALLY bad. It sucks that they wasted the Days movie by showing 500 Ice cream scenes instead of these tiny hints that are interesting.

[@BobbyTheGamerOfJUSTICE]

I’ve said this multiple times but I’ll say it again: Xigbar/Luxu is the best god damn character in this franchise......... That clever little sneak. 👀

[@brianlam7879]

"I'm sure that you got the same angry look just like him"

[@cunningsmile4166]

"Wouldn't you like to know?"

[@diiii_mond]

Cunning Smile « as if. »

[@brianlam7879]

@@diiii_mond "you're only here so once I have finished you off...."

[@brianlam7879]

"Terra will succumbed to the darkness, so who wants to go first"

[@WildcatDiana]

The KH3 Reports references that Luxu watched the Five go into another worldline. So he saw Ventus before.What hunts my mind the most about his scenes in 3 is how the Olympus talk he has with Sora is ALL ABOUT the secret ending and a possible hint to the MoMs plan.

[@kaialone]

"Of all the faces..." One might also draw a connection between that part and the fact that Luxu must've seen literally countless faces at this point.

[@XxAxelRaynexX]

Demyx and Xigbar called Sora a traitor the same way, a lot of people believe Demyx is the MoM. That'd be a sneaky way to connect them

[@JohnnyQuest5827]

I'm rolling with that too

[@kjwillis8618]

Rei Gisborne amen to that. I wouldn’t be surprised since both Xigbar & Demyx are great a deception

[@nicholasaguirre1661]

I'm pretty sure they called him a traitor because Roxas betrayed them. I don't think it's anything bigger than that.

[@iRasmusi]

Rei Gisborne Demyx has to be the MoM because Demyx was in the game but did NOTHING, isn’t that suspicious????

[@zeroskaterz92]

@@iRasmusi Demyx did nothing? Do you even fucking play KH3 for that matter? He literally stole a fucking puppet and took Ansem to Radiant Garden. Did nothing my ass.

[@WikiSorcerer]

In the Secret Reports of _III,_ they claim that if the Master of Masters _didn't_ orchestrate this whole mess, than an even worse Darkness would have surfaced and destroyed everything. _What is this greater darkness?!_

[@saddboye1568]

Aza Smith Luxu could be a traitor?

[@paris-ml1gy]

Maybe what’s hiding in the black box is this supposed “greater darkness”?

[@SpyroDraconem]

Maybe there's some form of "Ultimate Heartless" out there that's been sleeping all this time?

[@callmeravenlee1972]

Al Simmons KAIRI’S COMPETENCE????

[@SpyroDraconem]

@@callmeravenlee1972 savage

[@godofcrap42]

Hang on: "The old coot promised to bequeath me his. Why else do you think I would ever put up with his nonsense?" I'd figure this is a reference to Master Xehanort and how he got Braig on his side in BBS- promising to give him No Name/Gazing Eye when his plan succeeded. But now we know Xigbar is Luxu... is he also referring to his role given by MoM? Also, when the Master says "Just watch with your own eyes- and my eye, of course- as things unfold between the others.": makes me wonder if there's another reason to Braig losing his eye in BBS. Seriously, what if there's a Gazing Eye under Xigbar's eyepatch?

[@saddboye1568]

GoDoFcRaP42 What if the Gazing Eye was removed from the No Name and Braig put the real Eye where his old eye was, and the Master of Masters didn’t see the “greater darkness” in the future because Braig covered the gazing eye with the eyepatch?!

[@mac_sour]

@@saddboye1568 That's an extremely good theory, and honestly I won't be surprised if that's actually the case.

[@someoneyoudontknow3257]

Xigbar told the other founders that he had been body hopping over the centuries. He probably gave xehanort the keyblade and then transferred to the body he has as Braig somewhere later down the line.

[@53prime]

There is a theory that Braig is still somewhat conscious while Luxu controls his body in a similar way that Terra is still conscious to an extent while Xehanort is controlling his body, and it's actually Braig speaking that line about Luxu. Which would be somewhat interesting if it holds any water.

[@Unknown-zn8cg]

@@saddboye1568 braig has black eyes, not blue.

[@Bosebase91]

I always found it interesting that the book of prophecies even existing in the first place was proof Luxu succeeded in his role. No matter what he did, he was always guaranteed to be successful. And I love how that made him so cocky too.

[@the1bigbadwolf]

To be fair most of the villains deserved so much more screen time than they got. Xigbar was one of them along with many many others

[@shadelol7279]

I actually checked and saw that the model for ventus in kh ux doesnt have the icon the bbs trio shares, while in days, xion/ventus form has one so... ya Also, the fact that xigbar was promised to be bequeathed a keyblade was his plot point in bbs. Thats the reason he fake fighted terra and risked his life.

[@BobbyTheGamerOfJUSTICE]

Him possessing other people’s bodies does go along with his reaction towards Xehanort too. He was pissed that Xehanort caused him to lose his eye so he tried to attack him out of anger. This type of behavior can be compared to when a person gets pissed when their car gets wrecked by someone else, especially if it was a brand new car. Luxu likely just got a new body (that being Braig’s) so he was pissed Xehanort caused it to be damaged.

[@anthonygetdat]

He fake *fought

[@housinengi9512]

and think about this Xigbar wasnt even scared of ventus in khbbs all he said was he had the look of i killed your gold fish yet when that line comes up hes upset and made at that look

[@Rex13013]

Shade Lol The game came out before bbs so the designs weren't finalized. You guys are looking way too into this. It's a retcon and a bad one at that, everything regarding Xehanort was at least hinted on, Xigbar talking others and seeing Ventus was hinting at bbs, Xehanort body possession and Xigbar's eye changing from brown to yellow hinted on on why Saix had yellow eyes in kh2 and days and why he wasn't acting friendly toward Axel in days and it made sense when they both came back in dream drop, and even nobodies growing hearts was hinted in days. But Kh3 just threw all of that out the window, and I can give 2 example that proof Nomura didn't plan this out, first is Xemnas in dream drop saying most of the original organization members weren't fit for the new one because weakness of body, will and trust which pretty much covers everyone who isn't norted like Saix and Xigbar. And the 2nd one that Braig's eyes were brown originally plus let himself be norted and be at the mercy of Xehanort, not that being norted means shit anyways, in kh3 I mean, in dream drop Xigbar said it was scary how Xehanort could see into his mind so his plans was being carried out even though he wasn't even "alive" and Saix was a complete zombie but kh3 even though everyone is norted everyone just did whatever they want even betrayed Xehanort and he let them which was retarded and goes against what was established, Xehanort should've seen all this coming. I love Xigbar and he is my 2nd org member after Xemnas but that plot twist bullshit on top of all the bullshit kh3 threw at us.

[@blazingwolf9044]

Gps1337 I completely agree, there's no way Nomura planned all of this

[@KBgamer2010]

Long story short, Xigbar pulled a Tobi on us all

[@alanlancer008]

Kiefer Baker I so knew right away when they showed us Tobi in naruto who he was.

[@butterflydecollette2688]

I'm even more ready for this dlc to find more luxu secrets....

[@Garnix2]

You might be setting yourself up for disappointment. I don't expect to learn a lot about him before the sequel. The DLC will just create some hype on other side characters that appeared to be really unimportant up to that point (Luxord especially, but I hope for something to happen with Demyx)

[@butterflydecollette2688]

@@Garnix2 Yeah they may save luxu stuff for more installments...but I'm still excited for it nonetheless. You think Demyx might really have more shine? In other words think he's MoM?

[@Garnix2]

@@butterflydecollette2688 I don't buy in the Demyx is MoM theory.But he is one of the only Org XIII for which there is no back story at all yet. We will see in a few years :p

[@KillNamniaR]

pink-cherry-005 it’s been confirmed that there will be no dlc

[@CocoRoxas]

but we're getting the DLC Re:Mind I thought?

[@majorfreakingcupcake]

Plot twist: in Days, when he tells Xion he mentions seeing "her" face, and asks why she's "gotta glare like that". He's not talking about Aqua, he's talking about Ava.

[@maryscary]

6:14 the nobody symbol with the 6 wings around it? IT'S THE UNION X SYMBOL UPSIDE DOWN!

[@checkitout1856]

Mary Scary oh dang yeah that’s on the book of prophecies

[@empoleonmaster6709]

holy shit, you're right!

[@Worn_Guide]

I like how out of everybody's character designs, Braig/Xigbar is the only one missing an eye. A the Master of Masters had also used one of his eyes on No Name. Maybe Xigbar is following in the footsteps of the Master of Masters, or there is something afoot. Xigbar is the type of person to play his cards under the table, with his back against the wall, and lie to play others like a fiddle.

[@Firestar1992]

Whenever I saw the Xigbar death scene after seeing the epilogue, I realized that the "old coot" he was referring to was not, in fact, Xehanort as we and Sora and Riku were led to believe. Rather, he was talking about MoM. And that also makes the line, "Why else would I put up with all his nonsense?" fit even more considering MoM's personality.

[@Dreq458]

as for xigbar's theme I think it was remixed to create a sense of danger. you know, for atmospheric reasons. roxas' theme has been changed several times to create different moods. at the end of the day, it was a good catch regardless. I can neither confirm nor deny this point.

[@MrGermanpiano]

I am not even sure what the point is. Xigbars theme is basically the same as the one of the organization, because he is a member of it. I do not think that there is more to it.

[@liamwhite3522]

Now, if the little extra bit in the remix was linked to Luxu, then that'd be a lot firmer proof.

[@ramirochristianzayeregino8789]

I just thought of this: ALL the foretellers have amber eyes.

[@BobbyTheGamerOfJUSTICE]

At least from the eyes on their masks, yes.

[@MalakiaLaGattaNera]

@@BobbyTheGamerOfJUSTICE Ira's mask has red eyes in back cover but yellow ones in his chibi model in KHUX. I do like the idea of them all having yellow eyes, or at least getting them once they start fighting each other, falling to darkness ;)

[@daniellove8011]

@@MalakiaLaGattaNera I know it might be a bit of a reach, but I don’t think the next saga in kh is gonna be about fighting off darkness. I think the MoM and the foretellers are going to try and destroy darkness. One line from him made me think about it, when he was talking to young Xehanort he said “I could tell you I dream of world peace, when I’m really planning it’s destruction” that and paired with him refusing to take off his black coat, I think he’s trying to make sure the light perseveres and darkness dies.

[@LuisRPG8]

Also something to note, Braig's fight in Aqua's Story in BBS uses the Orgaization's theme before and Another Side, Another Story as battle theme

[@captaindystopia]

i also feel like at the scene where the masters of masters talks about the box there are like atleast 5 details which could mean something. he is not saying there is "this or that" inside he talks to long for that. the reaction kinda proves that too. he's also like "oh!?" first. it could mean the master of masters heart in my opinion, that wouldnt be too far fetched. replica doesnt make sense bcs i doubt luxu knows that except if it stands in the book then yea sure. but then it wouldnt explain the surprised reaction. also after that the master of masters is doing something with his hand which doesnt represent "darkness" but it represents like "power" or something. either way... the master of masters must be a sick hardass. lol. (thanks for reading xd)

[@Voulton_S.]

That music clue has been on my mind since I first listen to it! I've always known that Xigbar was WAY more important than what the games were implying. The one who stays quiet but is Number II, come on!

[@Voulton_S.]

What I mean by staying quiet is about his plans, not his arrogance!

[@Azraelson]

It feels like the further into this series we go the twists get retconned deeper... First all the references made about Roxas to Sora went deeper into being about Ven before since Braig fought him in Birth By Sleep, but now we also have the knowledge that even before that Ven was a dandelion and its possible Luxu encountered him in that time too

[@lucidsoliddale6877]

He calls sora “traitor” and in dream drop he points out that sora is the one with the recusant sigil

[@lucidsoliddale6877]

Like that doesn’t seem to tie sora into Xchi Union cross

[@raidenakajacktheripper5988]

In Dream Drop, he was referring that Sora was the final vessel for Xehanort. Even Xemnas mentioned that Sora had the sigil

[@weebkeyblader]

Those edits over the conversation between MoM and Luxu at 12:14-12:45 gave me major feels

[@otakuanything825]

What if the master of masters was a older sora who wanted to make sure he was strong enough to protect his friends from a strong threat

[@13KuriMaster]

For the scene right before his KH2 boss fight, the Luxu reveal also makes one more thing there make since. If he was solely on Xeanort's plan, why bother eliminating those heartless stockpiling Sora? Either Sora kills them and Kingdom hearts gets more complete, or they strike down Sora and they have one less pain in the neck. Now that we have a clue as to what his own agenda was and that he likely needed to Sora up and still around for it (maybe to eliminate Xeanort), him taking out the heartless and then "fighting" Sora (really just putting on a show to make it seem more believable that he wants to get rid of Sora), makes a bit more since.

[@NoahRogers19980618]

A video about MOM and LUXU, I’m excited!!!

[@Valentien23]

I'm convinced that the master of masters will consatantly break a 4th wall here; why would he whisper to luxu knowing there's no one in the room && previously say all of that crazy stuff but withhold that one piece of info to whispers; he's aware of the player

[@JellyMyst]

Fuck, I hope not. I've seen what happens when a series goes down that route.

[@sharkerxd9094]

@@JellyMyst Doki Doki?

[@JellyMyst]

@@sharkerxd9094 Danganronpa, actually. Much less intentional horror and more dividing a fandom straight down the middle with little possibility of the series doing well after it horror.

[@ROT695]

@@JellyMyst Wasn’t that game supposed to be a bit of a soft reboot? That’s how I like to see the game anyway haha

[@JellyMyst]

@@ROT695 Problem is, the writers left themselves nowhere to take it. It wasn't written like a reboot. It was written like -a mercy killing- an ending.

[@wettymeister]

was it me, or did xigbars theme from ddd sound like khux theme when you start the game?

[@xoderota]

EXACTLY

[@LezardNeos]

That "KHUx theme" is from the Cavern of Remembrance from KHII Final Mix so yeah, the similarities should be intentional.

[@xwaytothedawnx]

I just think that Xigbar has the perfect character for it. The personality of the chill laid back guy who knows more then he lets on. The guy who is believed to just be "following orders" but secretly is the brains behind everything. Such a great twist

[@Cpyright007]

Before the reveal I theorized that Xigbar was the Master of Masters lol

[@hazzard4065]

Lol u were close enough

[@ThisKrazieVato]

Lancer lol I did too

[@Solid_Mae]

Same XD

[@Asia-bj2mr]

LoooooL me toooooo! I was so sure because of the eye of the Master of Masters, and Xigbar Is the only character with an eyepatch (plus, MoM's behavior makes me think of Xigbar). Sorry for my English, it is not my first languages

[@Cpyright007]

@@Asia-bj2mr lol it's fine

[@renmorre6015]

I wonder when Xigbar called Sora "Traitor" that it was also double meaning..? Of course, thinking about it would lead to Xigbar calling out Roxas' betrayal to the Organization...but what if Xigbar was speaking deeper than that? The people in Sora's heart that we know of are Ventus and Roxas. Xigbar is of course known to call out names 'outside their frames' due to underlying meaning, so what if there is another person in Sora's heart that is from the KHuX age? Just a thought, I don't know if it could be applicable, lol.

[@WildcatDiana]

I think Ventus being inside Sora's heart is a clue to the Master's plan rather than a sign that he is the traitor. Rewatching the series got me thinking how would Luxu know that Sora was the right boy to manipulate to send to Shibuya? Well, if he saw a Nobody that looked like one of the Union Leaders instead of the original form, that would be a huge clue. I think, because of the "traitor that bears the sigil" thing, he thought that Skuld was the traitor, if she is Subject X, or even Luxord, that is number X in the organization.

[@MrRobot-0]

Well ventus wass a union leader the way story goes union leader seem to say fuck it and trow a wrench in MoMs plan so in luxu pov the woudnt be all traitors?

[@CelestialKingLeo]

Well, during Union Cross, they did say constantly say there ws was a traitor in their midst. Perhaps that's what the double meaning could mean? That the heart of that traitor is within him?

[@lekiscool]

There was a moment in BBS where Xigbar said that Xemas’s keyblade was his. I was like WTF?

[@marcos1719]

Man i just realized what if MoM tricked luxu and luxu has turned on his master's plan and is trying to redeem himself ? Like kinda funny hes the only one whiout a book to know the future with the inttention of him not knowing the futute so he dosent interfere with it like trougth all kh3 everytime i saw xigbar he had a look of regret on his face and when we got the reveal his look wasnt the oh im evil and im gonna conquer everything , no it was a look of someone that knew what needs to be done and has accepted it and what needs to be done is stopping his master's plan

[@curtisw.2152]

Uhhhhh is it me or does it look like braig's gun look like a broken keyblade?..or am I thinking too hard? 11:11-11:12

[@thejupiterking5166]

What's funny is, when Xigbar was introduced in KH2 for the first time, I said he was going to be a main villain sometime in the future because he just looked WAY too cool compared to most of the others.

[@Darkblaze129]

Braig in BBS: "I'm glad Terra didn't stole my heart like Princess-Whatever. It would have ruined my week for sure". Yeah, if Luxu's heart leaves Braig's body = plan failed

[@beast_boy97]

I think the musical reference was merely referring to the fact that Xigbar was an Org 13 member, nothing more.

[@BBgun38]

What if Xigbar/Luxu meant the MoM when he said "The old coot promised to bequeath me his. Why else do you think I would ever put up with all his nonsense?" I feel like the MoM has been doing a lot of 'nonsense' with his whole role for Luxu. Could just be me looking for something that isn't there... After all, Do we even know if the MoM has his own personal Keyblade? He seems to give personalized Keyblades out easily.

[@khalidalamin8069]

You are talking about someone who can create keyblades on a whim ....one of my early theories was that MoM was the personafication of the Xblade or that the X blade is his or ..and thats a big one .... he's theKing of Kingdom Hearts

[@gracekami4655]

I have always loved Xigbar and I'm so glad his character is getting stretched. He is the absolute best.

[@VGInterviews]

I think the links to chi are a bit of a stretch (over both of your videos) while yes Luxu could've known about Lauriam and that is why he chose Marluxia, I don't think he had any connection to Ventus before BBS (until it is explicitely shown in future UX updates) since Luxu's role was to just observe the world, probably at the very least until the first keyblade war and until he finds someone suitable to inherit MoM's keyblade, then he can become an active charactely, as Braig A reason for this is exactly the line he gives to Ven of "thinking he is a full fledged weilder now" since if he had interacted with him in Chi time he would've met him as a Dandellion, who no doubt were top notch fighters, that is why he only met him in the BBS era where he is severely weakened, enough for him to mock Ven during their fight And about his line to Sora I think the "heroes" he refers are just the BBS trio since they were fighting for the greater good (even terra at the end) and being trained for that purpose, and wearing keyblade armor, would look more heroic The unions (that includes dandellions & foretellers) in Chi while good at first end up wrapped in chaos and fighting each other for control and causing the Keyblade war itself, not very Heroic, even if you were to say that the Dandellions weren't that selfish, their main mission was to escape the fight and live on,again, not an "heroic" action

[@RuneKatashima]

What's the big deal about Lauriam anyway?

[@soulkai]

Someone's in the box. Possibly The Master of masters.

[@Vanmoire]

Nomura definitely did not have it planned for Xigbar to be Luxu all the way back in Kingdom Hearts 2. He even admitted as much in an interview.

[@desthstride587]

Wait, if Xigbar set Xehanort's plans into motion, then Luxu would have had to have met him earlier in life, probably before he was Braig. Check out the trailer for Re:mind. It shows young Xehanort, silver-eyes and all, meeting with a man in a black coat. I thought it was the Master of Masters, but what if it was Luxu? What if he realized Xehanort would likely receive No Name from his master and set him on the path of darkness? And saying "Why else would I ever put up with all his nonsense?" What if he ended up not liking Xehanort, so wanted to take back his Keyblade to give to someone he felt was better suited? That would explain why he got personally involved rather than observing from afar like was planned.

[@JohnnyQuest5827]

Start at 6:15...do you think theres any significance with Braig referring to Sora/Roxas as a "Traitor"?. Does it relate to UX as far as Ventus goes. With him possibly being the "Traitor"

[@daey9384]

i know this is a year late but the thing in the black box could either be yazoras true body, the girl who helped riku go to quadratum. or clues on how to find the master of masters

[@deetee7054]

Demyx is the master of masters Look at his mannerisms like ' im chicken ' and then the nonchalant way the master is

[@linkarson241]

Watch you actually be right about this

[@deetee7054]

We seen with xigbar he can change forms so why not

[@ankurbhaskar4634]

Never noticed that was a remix theme in DDD, but I also thought it was to build excitement of nearing the end of the game. Also in that game, forgive me if you mentioned this in the original vid you did, but when he sees Sora with all his friends in a vision, that could be him envisioning the future, with him being Luxu & having the ability to see through time. Also I think the suspicious scene cut off at the end of Olympus was to cue in Luxord coming in as seen in the ReMIND DLC trailer. It is crazy to think Nomura planned this out all the way back.

[@mourgos1234]

All the Organisation members had the organisation theme in their respective musics in KH 2 / CoM etc so anyone who listen's to Xigbar thinks its because he is member of the Organisation.

[@attackofthecopyrightbots]

you didn't recognize the organization theme?

[@jaythehuman2552]

My favorite bit of trivia is braig or xigbar is Nomura's favorite character to play in 358/2 days mission mode.

[@natheren]

Hmm surprised the passwords for the computer at Hollow Bastion / Radiant Garden weren't mentioned. Granted ya can't actually see what the letters are but you can certainly see the number of characters and how they line up with the Foreteller names.

[@TheDoremifan1]

No they’re the original six apprentices names. Besides there was no passsword that has 3 letters in it.

[@Domasis]

If you think about it, Xigbar never really died in KH3, he only fell back and dropped his weapons, which is probably why Xehanort had to strike down Kairi.

[@taherkagdi2781]

Not really, no. The "Organisation XIII" is made up of 13 darknesses that's why he needed 13 keyblades including himself. If you think about it, there's actually an inconsistency even if you are counting that Xigbar died and made a keyblade. Because when Master Xehanort killed Kairi he had 12 Keyblades, all 12 except himself and hence killed Kairi to make the 13th That means Xigbar did die, that's all well and good except there should only have been 11 keys not 12 because Xion, a member of "Organisation XIII" never actually died. Anyway, that aside he killed Kairi to get the 13th key otherwise he himself would have had to die to make the 13th and that means Xigbar did die and come back, most probably the same way other lost masters came back.

[@Domasis]

@@taherkagdi2781 he's holding the 13th, the No Name is one of them ig

[@taherkagdi2781]

@@Domasis No I am not talking about that, if you are counting the one he is holding than in total he had 14 keys. Anyway what I am talking about is before he killed Kairi, he had 12 keys floating behind him and one in his hand and got another after he killed Kairi What I am talking about are the 12 behind him, there shouldn't be 12 since only 11 people died *including* Xigbar

[@Domasis]

@@taherkagdi2781 ah I understand now. Probably an oversight, or something we don't quite have the context. Probably just an oversight on their part

[@taherkagdi2781]

@@Domasis Hmm... Maybe Though I do hope they come up with an explanation and for that and address it.

[@GE0RGECREWS]

Stuff like this is why I love the KH series. Its like I think i know it all & then BOOM! New info surface & im like “WOW..didnt see that coming” & then old evidence points to the new info & im like “WHOA..I didnt notice that”. Ona personal note, its funny how my favorite O13 members all have a deep background story (roxas, xigbar, saix, axel & luxord)

[@JWeston723]

9:01 or you know... it could be just that he is a major character from the organization and thus when his theme was written it was simply making a reference to the fact that he was a member

[@catchdemhands412]

I bet luxu and master of masters is the same person just at different times just like xehanort and young xehanort

[@Darth_Bateman]

They sure act the same

[@NumeroGaijin]

Nope....it isn't Luxu. I believe I know who it is....

[@peetromilli]

Thats what I was thinking since master of masters told Luxu he already succeeded just after giving Luxu the mission and its like how would he know.

[@catchdemhands412]

@@NumeroGaijin who do u think it is?

[@NumeroGaijin]

@@catchdemhands412 I believe it is Demyx. The master of masters is most likely him in opinion. Even though, thinking back, it could be feasible for Luxu and the MoM to be one in the same.

[@carsonluberda4727]

Who is the character that is talking to Luxu in the cutscene where he explains the keyblade and the box??

[@Kyukai1]

@10:50 he was talking about Master of masters not about Xehanort.

[@flygonkerel781]

*"why else do you think i wpuld ever put up with all his nonsense"* he says this becasue he has bogger plans and sees xehanorts as petty lol

[@NadineHernandezDamn_its_Nadine]

The thing I noticed in birth by sleep was the original time meeting "him" when he had the master tied up and fought Terra. His eyes were a different color. They didn't be the yellow we always see until we see him again about to fight aqua. Think he hadn't yet taken the body of the original braig till sometime after the original fought Terra.

[@nofriendzjustaname9337]

*Making a lot of assumptions right now, I called it months before KH3 came out, my buddy was pissed cuz he didn't believe me.* If you go back to older games, all the hints become very obvious, but you could tell he was meant to stick out and he's never been on any definite side.

[@RuneKatashima]

Xigbar's theme sounding like Organization XIII's theme isn't a hint towards Luxu at all. Not even a tiny bit. There's no thread there. He's in the Org, it's a connection between him and the Org. Still, among all this. I'm realizing I don't have a reason to care. Why do I care about Xigbar being Luxu? Up to this point neither entities have done anything of merit. Luxu has literally done nothing and we don't know his purpose. Xigbar, up to this point, has just been an average boss to defeat with meaningless dialogue. It's all great if in the *next game* he does things but in all other media reveals like this usually are important because the character(s) in question have already had an impact.

[@nshippudennaruto2814]

Love that scene with the masters of masters! And the music? Like really! Never noticed .

[@MahoganytownXD]

Nomura *was* making it up as he went along. It wasn't until BBS that a larger narrative was formed. Old interviews indicate this. In game info also supports this. Even still, the KHx stuff was written was later.

[@chrisredwolf3130]

i am for sure Luxord is the Master of masters the way they both talk as if they are part of a game show or game in general so the personal is similar. but the “prizes” given have a future use. such as the box, the keyblade, and with Luxord... Sora’s wild card.

[@AntiRiku]

> Nomura plans ahead > Xigbar is Luxu Pick one.

[@cameronvaldez3615]

Did anyone else catch that on the box it has the same symbols/lines from the banner in the study room

[@tempesttie7270]

1:51 i never realized how ridiculous ira's mask was until now. it has a freaking wig- in a *ponytail*.

[@PhantomBlackStar]

I always knew something different about Xigbar , when he was shown in Birth By Sleep and Dream Drop Distance. But didn't see the End Event of KH3 coming lol.

[@AnthonyH0395]

I noticed the fact that Xigbar's theme in DDD shares its leitmotif with Organization XIII, but my biggest question with it was why was Xigbar so significant to get his own theme. Axel has appeared in all but two of the games and never got a theme, whereas Xigbar appeared less. The fact that he's actually Luxu makes it make sense

[@coltdeedede]

Xigbar is an amazing character and I really believe that, but my issue is with Tetsuya's storytelling methods. You can tell from early on Xigbar is a devious person with a bit of mystery than he cares to let on. But the story gives you no REAL evidence as to why or what he's doing and then in KH 3 all of a sudden he's Luxu. I'm not opposed to this reveal, in fact I love that he is Luxu, it's just that most of the "hints" that he is Luxu come in X and KH 3. Which feels like sloppy storytelling. I think the biggest quote most all of us overlooked was from KH 2 when he says "You don't look like you're half the hero the others were." but even then you can disprove that Nomura knew what he was doing with Braig by his role in Birth By Sleep. At the context of the time the quote is clearly a nod to whats to come in BbS and in Birth by Sleep we hardly have any strong evidence to even support the KH X timeline. Its just all so shoehorned and sloppily put together after KH 2 and it makes me reject what the series has become despite the amazing characters he created. It feels like he uses "mystery" and "reveals" as a device to cover his ass pulls. Especially in titles after KH 2... And that is my frustration with this series thus far I hope you enjoyed haha and I welcome any other perspectives on this.

[@Zodia195]

And then we even had more bombshells involving Luxu when the ending of Union Cross dropped lol. There's really one major question left that I have for him (and the Old Masters) what did he originally look like!? I am curious what the Old Masters look like too.

[@crystalmoviesuk2615]

theres the part where Xigbar was the one who got Marluxia to join the organisation. Marluxia is Luriam from KHX one of the dandelions

[@MrKodystorm]

So being 100% with you. Luxu/zigbar is like even deeper than this. See my theory is that he is the master of masters. Has time travel abilities hence the fade away part. He did what xehanort did separated his soul in the box. 1 fragment per key blade wielder 1 to his key blade And luxu was tasked to pass on the key blade in order to oversee his plans closely. But luxu and the masters are just a early separation between the masters nobody and his heartless. Both carrying the robe of darkness. Also note the phrase may your heart be your guiding key. Guiding key- your heart is in it.- master of masters heart is in the blade with the eye. His nobody - zigbar - luxu- says he casted his form long ago. Aka became zigbar to push thru time to keep writing the book of prophesies. Thus his true form is resided in the ability to transform like terra,aqua and ven can. But his form is the blade itself. And after the blade absorbing kingdom hearts energy, can give him a form past that attained by xehanort. But luxu still needs to gather his 7th- his heartless. Who might be trapped in the box itself. And he could have been carrying the secret, the heartless , the first heartless.

[@sweet28kandy90]

Is there another video on Sora? I just recently finished the game and idk how to cope 😭😭😭

[@sithmaster4305]

Xigbar is easily my favorite of the series and I was obsessed with Roxas for awhile.

[@spidtz]

Question. Was soda heir to the power of union X or the power of waking?

[@ZacharyShow]

Just finished the game and loved the twist at the end.

[@Wanderingsage7]

Spoiler for the ReMind trailer: Luxord is the one peice Xigbar/Braig/Luxu doesn't have any idea who he is or what he's actually up to. Which honestly, ups Luxord's awesomeness in my humble opinion. And Luxord is just playing along with whatever happens to be going on, playing dumb for reasons known only to him. Also, Xigbar in Olympus, the first scene, he knew what would happen to Sora at the end. I'm not entirely sure how mind, but listen to what he says when he meets the group. It's almost word for word about what happens at the end of the game. Maybe Sora is related to that one missing Foreteller? Maybe Luxord is MoM? What's in the booox?

[@chaellExE]

7:06 I noticed now that Xigbar and the other members of XIII talks to Sora like they knew Roxas and are familiar with souls getting into other bodies and retain their previous life information. Looking back at it, it seems like Sora / Roxas is the anomaly to this cause. From the beginning he seems lost, and because we are experiencing the story from his perspective and subsequently being fed his thought process as cannon, were led to believe that the XIII is trying to trick SORA to joining the XIII. While it is their plan to have their 'Chosen Keyblade wielder" back, all of the other members, besides Xehanort, were just seeing their old comrade back after the event and having a piece of mind with him about his betrayal. Xemnas on the other hand, knows the loss of Roxas and talks in a way directly to Sora, but never seem to adress him as ROXAS or the other one like the other members of the organization do.

[@P_SEC]

Here’s a music mind blow, Vanitas’s theme is composed of both Ventus and Sora’s theme. Defining one another which together make a greater whole.

[@draconicthemoelion7726]

4:03, I think it's safe to say that Nomura never has the first idea what he's talking about.

[@Gravesyte]

Perhaps that's why he wears the eye patch because his eye has always been watching in the keyblade

[@ElickFlash]

Honestly I knew that something was up with Braig for years, and the Luxu reveal proved that Nomura plans this shit ahead of time.

[@xlro8f853]

And now with this recent Union X update? What a hype twist!

[@NickRyanBayon]

guess what xigbars eyepatch string and his scar form an X almost as in the recusants sigil, sort of like siax.

[@Kairikey]

.....Didn't Nomura said his plan for Xigbar was really from how impressed he was with his voice actor?

[@shortsrus]

This video hits even harder now

[@willsword8100]

Editing on point.

[@Mr587098]

Well I'm not sure this is a mentioning but it regard the epilogue of KH3. When Ira look down at the No Name Keyblade, it help him recognize that Xigbar is Luxu despite the fact that Luxu wasn't supposed to reveal it to anyone and the only person who saw it was Ava as she was aware of Luxu's mission. I felt that the epilogue withhold more information and laid out the works for future spin off games like why Luxu spared Subject X and what mission Ava had that Luxu mentioned that sounded like she had more to do than form the Dandelions. Hopefully in Kingdom Hearts Union X Cross we get more answers

[@chapachuu]

Plenty of people were theorizing Xigbar/Braig's identity before KH3 came out. Lot's of people thought he was MoM, but some thought he was was Luxu (I was in the latter camp). So the reveal wasn't that surprising to me (still hype though). And I'm surprised you didn't include Xigbar's first conversation with Sora in KH2. His words are funnily ironic in hindsight (which makes me think Nomura might have had an idea about Xigbar's role from early on).

[@ruthiewong8722]

In back cover Luxu sounds really young, I wonder if young luxu or luxu in general might be connected to yozora? Huuuge stretch but food for thought?

[@krissydiggs]

Has anyone talked about how Axel reacts to Ventus when they meet in KH3? Like... that's definintly a union cross thing right?

[@Bobsican]

They meeted in BbS, remember?

[@yams7355]

I'm not thrilled about a lot of story elements that KH has going on ATM, but I am really thrilled about finding out more about Luxu. He's the only real part of Union X that interests me right now honestly.

[@andrelima4125]

weird that Xigbar says "finally, back where it belongs", if he gave the No Name right after the end of UX

[@ElickFlash]

Also Braig and Demyx refers to Sora as the Traitor. This is when Ventus is with Sora still. Also Ventus always gives Braig a glare that he knows. I honestly think that Ventus is the second Traitor. But there is stuff with Brain, I'm behind on Union cross so not sure on that one completely