How Xigbar's big secret changes his recompletion • Kingdom Hearts Theory

[@TheSecretReports]

*Frequently asked questions!* _I thought Lea, Isa, and Ienzo became Nobodies as adults, close to KH1's time?_ I should have linked this cutscene in the video, so sorry I didn't think to! In KH3, Lea confirms that they became Nobodies soon after Subject X went missing kzbin.info/www/bejne/bGTZoZVpitqSiKM We also see Ienzo's child model in DDD's prologue, rather than his adult model. I also suggest looking at the timeline in the description because that further combs through the timeline of the Organization members between BbS and KH1. _I thought Xehanort put his normal heart inside Terra's body?_ The Ultimania states it is in fact Birth by Sleep Terra-Xehanort at 10:04 (link also in description) and this is supported by Xehanort in Re:Mind's prologue saying "the very same heart that *previously* resided within young Terra."

[@yuuhyakuya3863]

Isn't there an inconsistency with that idea because of Marluxia, Larxene, and possibly Ventus, considering they have only aged a bit after Union X and they still look young by the events of KH3? If they do age, how are Marluxia and Larxene still around?

[@KraZKris2000]

@@yuuhyakuya3863 they don’t have hearts. Which explains why they never wield a keyblade, plus the fact they have no memories of having one. I think they subconsciously forced their selves to prevent growing a heart.

[@TheSecretReports]

​@@yuuhyakuya3863 Lauriam, Elrena and Ventus are implied to time travel to BbS's time like Subject X (not confirmed to be Skuld, but *probably* her). Ventus was _around_ 12 years old during KHUX. With Ventus time traveling to 4 years before BbS (keep reading for the math), and Subject X time traveling to POST BbS, we can assume Lauriam and Elrena also jumped to _around_ BbS but also likely at various times as well. This is may be caused by Ark being broken from Lauriam and Maleficent's off screen fight (but thats not confirmed yet). But if Ventus WERE to age 12+ years between the time of post BbS and KH3, he would probably be Marluxia and Larxene's age. Marluxia and Larxene are probably 12 years older than they were in UX, so I don't see how there's an inconsistency? They don't SEEM to have been Nobodies until years after everyone else, since Xigbar didn't recruit Lauriam until Zexion was already an adult (KH2FM flashback). (the math is: Ventus joined hearts with Sora when Sora was "a brand new heart"--so a newborn assumedly, Sora was 14 in KH1, BbS takes place 10 years before KH1, leaving 4 years Ventus spent at Land of Departure, so 16-4 = 12, maybe 11 if Ventus is 15 in BbS, we don't know)

[@TheSecretReports]

@@KraZKris2000 They do have hearts. Thanks to Roxas and Xion not starting off with hearts in the beginning of days, we know Nobodies that don't have hearts start off zombie like, where they don't talk a lot, have short term memory loss, etc. Marluxia and Larxene are fully aware of their surroundings, they have emotions, etc etc. I'm highly confident they do have hearts, and the reason they don't have memories is likely due to the same reason Ventus and Subject X have no memories of KHUX either.

[@yuuhyakuya3863]

@@TheSecretReports I was under the impression that Lauriam, Erlena, and Ventus were turned into nobodies and that's how they lived that long. I think I see what you mean, but I'm still sticking to Nobodies don't age. Unless They do have hearts. Xemnas explains nobodies actually do not have hearts, however, they can grow one eventually if they manage to connect with enough people and start forming real bonds. So if they haven't grown a heart yet, they won't age. If they do, they will age.

[@NerdStrikesBack]

“Back in 2014, 30 years ago!” Got a chuckle out of me... it sure feels that way.

[@fe1ipe_._967]

lmao i read this juat as it came uo in the video

[@DeeRadens]

@@fe1ipe_._967 me too

[@NekkoBlue]

Everyone's having a chuckle about "2014, 30 years ago", but that Neku laying in the diagram with everyone else also got me good lol

[@servantbyday]

Same. I caught that too. Aha

[@taqresu5865]

It was a bad Reaper game that day lol

[@xuanluu4873]

Time stamp?

[@SateLight]

@@xuanluu4873 12:34

[@TheMasterofMasters1]

Access Granted.🗝

[@TheSecretReports]

I’M ALIVE!!!!!! Sorry for the wait, quarantine really ruined any ambition I had for a few months 😬 I hope you enjoy this subject I’ve been wanting to discuss since starting this channel !!

[@Komega01]

i always figured that luxu took the body and completely took over braig/the vessels heart the only reason xehanort couldnt fully control terra without any side effects (hair changing losing memories lingering will being created) is just because he has a strong heart and because of eraqus putting a piece of himself in terra. luxu is most likely just really good at possesing people

[@AlphaOblivion7]

Tbh Dilan probably just got a haircut once he returned to his usual sense as a somebody hahaha

[@Komega01]

@@AlphaOblivion7 nooooo waaay we cant just put all this story analysis away with a haircut

[@duncanbug]

Glad you're back! Don't worry about. I think quarantine kinda kills most peoples motivation. This video was great btw :)

[@insanityking4786]

you got a discord?

[@jetstreamjackie3437]

Maybe Xaldin just grew depression sideburns bc his boyfriend died, and then shaved after he got recompleted bc he was able to go to therapy

[@wavestation999]

Xaldin had those Jeff Hardy sideburns 🤣

[@shadesplayed2992]

Okay, but what happened to the gauges in his ears?

[@sephirothcrescent5768]

Boyfriend what boyfriend ya'll mean Xigbar?... XDDDDDDD

[@shaun7002]

@@shadesplayed2992 the piercing? Idk

[@AerokineticX]

I think there may be a simpler explanation here. I think Xehanort was only unable to cast out Terra's heart because Eraqus was protecting him. I think after Luxu possessed Braig, Braig's heart was cast out, no longer existing in that body and allowing Luxu to fully merge with Braig's body. Thus, when he was recompleted, it happened as if he was just a normal person, like the rest of the organization.

[@Recovery305]

The exposition queen is back

[@BrennySpain]

You bet! One of the best kingdom hearts youtubers out there!!

[@NerdStrikesBack]

They really are, they do so much research!

[@xx7956]

Theory 4: Young Braig is actually a heartless and Braig-Luxu was never recompleted to begin with.

[@TheSecretReports]

👀 inch resting....

[@WiltarrowMain]

@@TheSecretReports Centimeter active

[@LuckiSir]

You're onto something, because if we combine Mel's Theory 1 & 2 with your 4 then we've got a few ideas on the whereabouts of the _real_ Braig. Since we know Luxu can dispel and insert hearts without a keyblade, it's safe to assume he could lock his own heart, right? Basically kicking Braig out of his own body indefinitely, minus the memory loss in Terranort's case. Young Braig would be forced into a heartless form (just like Terra) but would remain like that to this very day due to Braig-Luxu never being recompleted. Luxu also knows that keeping Braig's heartless around would cause problems. Guardian is the perfect example of this. Overall, you guys are onto something XX7.

[@RebeccaOfTheForest]

@@LuckiSir Yeah, and then the older Xigbar could still be the Nobody of Luxu-Braig, who just faked his death in KH2.

[@LucasSantana-ws8po]

i don't think so, remember that Nomura said that everyone's Organization heartless were already defeated by the end of KH2?

[@thenebulaxyz8849]

I always just assumed that Dilan looked different that Xaldin was because it was the same with Axel's eye marks. In my mind, some changes made to the body that happen to a Nobody will vanish and the person is restored as best as they are to their original look when they lost their heart in the first place. That's why Lea doesn't have the marks, he made them after he became Axel. Same with Dilan and his hairstyle, and Braig with his hair going back to it's normal color. The only thing that changes is the age, because that's still a natural thing to happen to the body. (Can't speak for lesser nobodies though) You know one could argue that when a Nobody is born, the body goes through slight visible changes, this was said in one of the Ansem Reports as well I believe. Think like a side effect from losing their heart and being reborn as a Nobody. This is seen in some of their skin tone and eye colors, cause there is a slight color change in them. Personally, I thought Ventus didn't age was because the Chamber of Waking prevented him to, like a suspended animation or cryogenic sleep. Or perhaps time is different in Castle Oblivion, due to a world's time axis or the castle's magic. Personally I go with the suspended animation theory. As for Braig and Luxu not being 'separated', I just assumed it was because unlike Terra, Braig was completely engulfed by Luxu's heart, erasing the personality or at least putting it into a permanent state of stupor, which in turn allowed him complete control of the body. For Xehanort however, Terra was to resistant due to his strong will and heart, aided by Eraqus' Heart to resist him. This is why he created his guardian, to better contain Terra's heart as it was wrestling control from him. Hence, why Xehanort seemed to 'push' the guardian from his body. He was expelling Terra while still keeping a leash on him. Also, I think of Terra-Xehanorts Nobody and Heartless as this. Xemnas: Terra's body but with Xehanorts soul/mind. Ansem: Xehanorts heart but with Terra's heart trapped deep within.

[@OriginalGameteer]

The Braig/Luxu thing makes sense With Terra-Nort we repeatedly see Terra's heart rebel against Xehanort's. But with Braig, we never see any internal struggle. The original heart truly was fully consumed by Luxu's. Without prior knowledge, it'd be impossible to tell Xigbar/Braig was a person possessed by another.

[@handsoaphandsoap]

I believe it’s been confirmed that time doesn’t flow the same in different worlds, maybe time moves very slowly in the Land of Departure so that’s why Ven doesn’t age

[@aydenboire]

Good comment but terra’s heart is probably in the dark guardian

[@bananasinfrench]

The trouble I have with the idea that the body will reverse unnatural changes once recompleted is the fact that, plausibly, scars remain. Do they count as natural occurrences? I suppose we don't know for sure when Saix got his scars, but that's always given me trouble trying to logic those changes out

[@annyske007]

I saw you mention on twitter the painful process of keying out braig from the cutscene. For what it's worth, the effect looks awesome:)

[@TheSecretReports]

Thank you so much 😭😭😭

[@bookcat1569]

About Nobodies and aging, I personally figure that it's an "Immortality Begins at 20" deal. The reason Lea, Isa, and Ienzo all aged is because they got all Nobody-fied when they were kids. After all, Dilan and Braig/Luxu aren't the only ones who looks identical to before they became a Nobody - Aeleus and Even look the same, too.

[@axelxenith8294]

My favorite KH content creator is back

[@slateoffate9812]

In Birth By Sleep, Xehanort claimed that Terra's heart would be engulfed by his forever. I interpret this as how what little of a heart Axel grew remerged with Lea's heart. Evidently, with Terra and Xehanort's bodies completing separately, I think Xehanort was wrong. Xigbar, on the other hand, is a different story.

[@twilightblaze2052]

@15:13 “Back in 2014, 30 years ago” Proof that TSR is from the future! No wonder she knows so much about time travel!

[@jacksoningram4314]

The theories, the graphics, the Nort boats. Literally everything you do is incredible, and such a gift to the KH community. So glad to see you back on here!

[@Thedude38356]

This was a good theory video. I'm sure they overlooked Dilan's age due to his overall lack of importance. But the Terra one always left me confused why he deaged when he aged as Apprentice Xehanort and Xemnas. Master Xehanort makes sense why he didn't age since his body was destroyed until his recompletion but Terra's was head scratching.

[@TheSecretReports]

I agree it is strange. I think in a meta sense it was Nomura's way of somehow making the BbS trio all remain the same age as they were in BbS, instead of one having be awkwardly older than the other three due to like 12 years passing haha. But still I would like further explanation on why Terra is still young.

[@Manganra7]

How about this theory: when Luxu is turned into a Nobody, it’s *Braig’s* heart that gets yeeted out of the body, while Luxu’s stays. So he’s half-Nobody.

[@thewalrus45]

Thats... nuts....

[@GuyWolfGaming]

So it's similar to Roxas with Ventus

[@Rahnonymous]

a somebody?

[@guardianangeloflight1466]

a half body?

[@TheMagic1412]

@thewalrus45 I read that in my mind with Soras voice

[@SpotterX4]

Man, your editing talent is seriously amazing. The visuals and sound effects are so immersive; I can really see the effort you put into every video. Keep up the great work; I never want to miss a new video from you :)

[@etharcanum4146]

The red scarf makes me think there’s a connection between Luxu and Ephemer somewhere in the future. Perhaps he passes on the key blade to ephemer to possess him somewhere down the line? Dark inferno (which seems to also have a connection to ephemer) has split keys as a weapons which could also mean sometime of duality for Ephemer. But that’s just my two cents heh

[@oscarrodriguez4012]

This is the evidence-based KH content I've been waiting for! Welcome back.

[@unicornburger16]

Yes, a video all about my boy! God, I love Xigbar so much!

[@Cri_Jackal]

I believe that disfiguring injuries always persist in this system, as they would also be scars on the heart that would persist through time.

[@GrizzlyFeverr]

Masterful editing as always.

[@DarkestElemental616]

"And Xehanort doesn't look like...this." I died laughing because that's exactly what I was thinking.

[@OswaldLunaire]

By watching the whole video I was asking to myself what you were referring to by saying "younger/older" Braig/Xigbar, but I guess you're considering that his hair white-stripes are a proof that he's older and started to gain white-gray hair like an old man? If that's the main issue, there is a simple possible plot : the changes in his hair might not be related to his age, but to his state. There are sometimes small changes between a person and their Nobody. (Axel's marks, Xaldin's haircut and strange ears shape, Xemnas being so huge...) Xigbar's white-stripes hair could be one of them, it would explain why Braig lost them when he's been recompleted, and why he gained them again by turning into a Nobody a second time.

[@the_echoYT]

I think it's still possible Braig was simply the first to wake up--or perhaps, that Xehanort arrived and woke him up first. Remember that Xehanort's method of time travel follows his own timeline, so for this scene he likely would've used Braig (already housing a piece of Xehanort's heart) as the anchor for his arrival. So I'm not sure that Xehanort could've taken BbS Braig with him to that period where a version of himself is briefly missing. Xehanort doesn't recomplete until the end of DDD, so Braig is the only seed currently available at that time, unless we assume Saïx was also seeded during his first time as a Nobody (amber eyes). I remember back when 2.5 first came out, believing that Young Xehanort and Braig were conspiring together to thwart Master Xehanort. Rewatching that scene, it's dawned on me that I was 100% correct. They were there to take Isa and Even as members of the True Organization. Members who would ultimately end up betraying Xehanort. So the question becomes, why was Braig there, helping him pick up would-be traitors? Is the "plan" he mentions Master Xehanort's plan, or Young Xehanort's?

[@malikbell6978]

Your theory videos are my favorite to watch on this series; they're so well put together and always enjoyable.

[@vrovvv]

Its just a plothole. Braig has yellow eyes in the secret ending of ReCoded. That's only possible if he was recompleted as a human and Xehanort bothered to posses him for like 30 seconds before turning him back into a nobody and possesing him again. Nothing about this makes sense. If your second theory is correct and Braig time traveled to the future (meaning he was a seperate entity from the already recompleted Braig) then...where is the recompleted Braig. What was the point of YX bringing him to the future if he doesn't do anything? They just had that Braig model lying around. Also, another fun little plothole hidden here, in DDD's opening, Braig seems to imply that labcoat Xehanort never lost his memory in the first place. That means he knows he has already possesed Braig. So...uh... why does he turn him into a nobody? The "plan" was to split his heart and posses 13 vessels...Xigbar was already down with the plan...and he knew. Why bother turning him into a nobody in the first place. He was already possesed

[@kaison12205]

I always assumed that isa, lea and ienzo had just grown up before they were made nobody’s as that would have occurred closer to kh1 more then 5 years after bbs

[@TheSecretReports]

I think it's very normal to assume this, but thanks to KH3, Lea confirms that they became Nobodies soon after Subject X went missing kzbin.info/www/bejne/bGTZoZVpitqSiKM I also suggest looking at the timeline in the description because that further explains why/how they became Nobodies at such a young age :)

[@kaison12205]

@@TheSecretReports ahhh I see thanks

[@KhalilEstell]

Was about to ask the same question :)

[@belot217]

I like to think Nobodies shouldn't age but a time-magic user like Luxord could've managed to age up the younger members

[@heidyramirez3519]

I have just a random theory/idea that’s really out there and there’s not much evidence to back it up, but what if somehow in order to keep Scala Ad Caelum growing into the civilization we see in kh3, somehow Luxu defeated Ephemer and took over his body (whether voluntarily or not) but trapped his heart in the same body as Luxu’s (this would explain the scarf he had in bbs and how tattered it looked as a sign of this and how it looks just like Ephemer’s) and continued to transfer Ephemer’s heart with him everytime Luxu possessed a person. But due to the involuntary stabbing of Luxu-braig with a Keyblade in the DDD cutscene, he was separated into a nobody (still Luxu possessing Braig, since I think Luxu has managed to gain full control of Braig and expel his heart out, or at least put it in a dormant state) and two heartless, and the ONLY one we’ve encountered so far is Ephemer’s strong heart that was separated from Luxu-braig’s body, that turned out to be the one we encountered at the keyblade graveyard during Sora’s revival as he enters Ventus’ heart. Because the boss we encounter doesn’t seem to side with Xehanort, rather want to protect Ventus. His design is eerily similar to Ephemer due to the scarf theme again, and that heartless probably duel wields due to the fact he was a weilder, and connected to a weilder too (Luxu). After being defeated, we momentarily see Ephemer help Sora in what we believe to be a spirit form or flashback. I think at this point he’s freed…but what if that was actually him, and he was re-completed? In a last sacrifice to keep light alive, he summoned the spirits of all the fallen weilders to help Sora, and in doing so faded from existence or merely became a fleeting spirit along with his fallen comrades. As for Luxu-Braig’s actual heartless, I’m not so sure how that would play out, or where he is, so that’s the only missing piece I guess, but that’s all that’s been running through my mind this whole time.

[@TopPigg]

Forget game theory and FnaF. This is the lore diving I live for

[@GreenRequiem]

This was SO INTERESTING. Your video introductions and titledrops are always so extra and I love it. Gigantic shoutout to the frickin xigbar flip flop scene in LoD lmfao

[@spadesandshades-pc9tx]

We missed you 😢

[@BlaxeFrost-X]

Supposedly, before knowing that xigbar was braig and luxu, we learnt that xigbar was "already half-xehanort", that means he had xehanorts heart, if he was telling the truth in DDD, then we need to take xehanort into account for his timeline, so it's even more complicated than Terra-Xehanort since he would be Braig-Luxu-Xehanort

[@cryoking1353]

THE QUEEN HAS RETURNEDDDDD

[@moscowfreak795]

Aging topic. I have been waiting for this for so long. Splendid work!

[@khnewddd]

The quality is amazing as always, your hard work is really appreciated :)

[@Titan_Trainer]

A very informative and interesting video as always! I really enjoy the simple, yet incredibly effective diagrams as well as the adorable designs to explain certain aspects (such as the S.S. Nort XD). I would agree that I had initially thought the Braig model in 2.5's Coded was just a minor inconsistency (at least with the hair) as DDD and Coded do seem to imply that when a person is recompleted, they wear the same outfits they wore before the separation (which does leave questions for Lea and Isa, but that's a story for another day). So his hair would be the only major detail. However, these theories have definitely sparked my interest. However, I wanted to ask something regarding your second theory, if I may. Why would this theory imply that Luxu only possessed Braig after his fight with Terra? Wouldn't the theory still fit if Luxu had Braig's body for the entirety of BBS, regardless of the scar and eyepatch?

[@TheSecretReports]

My thought process was that since Apprentice Xehanort ages perhaps about a year before splitting into Ansem and Xemnas (I'm guessing, look at the timeline in the description for my reasoning LOL), and the restored Terra in KH3 doesn't look even a *year* older (like say, his brown hair isn't Apprentice Xehanort's length), I THINK when possessed bodies are restored they're reset to BEFORE they were possessed. So let's say Braig was possessed *before* his first appearance in Birth by Sleep when he tells Terra he's holding Master Xehanort captive. Since he got his scars *from* his fight with Terra, that means when Braig is restored again, his body will have reset to BEFORE his fight with Terra and BEFORE he got those scars. However, IF Braig was possessed *later* in BbS when he meets Aqua and Ventus (his eyes are yellow by this point), than the scar and eyepatch make sense, since Braig already those before he was possessed. Let me know if I'm still not being clear enough, this is such a complex topic it's hard to be distinct! I cannot say for sure at which point Braig was possessed, so it'll be interesting to see if we ever get a confirmed point in time!

[@Titan_Trainer]

​@@TheSecretReports Don't worry, you were very clear and I definitely understand what you mean now. Thank you! I would think that Braig was always possessed in BBS (at least when he was on-screen) as from Luxu describes in KH3's Secret Report 13, he would play the fool desiring the Keyblade's power, which is exactly what Braig describes before his battle with Terra; "How could I not want one?" I haven't given this theory much thought, but now I'm wondering if this situation may perhaps have a similar situation to Sora/Roxas/Ventus. It seems to have been implied that when Sora turned into a Heartless, Ventus' heart remained with his body and thus, having Roxas look like him (though only in hair as, if I recall correctly, Roxas' face model is the exact same as Sora's). So, what if in the DDD prologue, Xehanort released Braig's heart, leaving Luxu's to stay with his body and thus, Xigbar (perhaps even changing his hairstyle to what Luxu's is?) So that when Braig was recompleted, it was just like Sora at the start in KH2; unaffected from Roxas'/Ventus' appearance.

[@TheSecretReports]

@@Titan_Trainer Oh interesting!! See I knew that I would recieve even more theories on what could have happened since all these variables make for a wide rage of possibilities! I think this is also a possibility since Luxu has experience with inserting/expelling his heart, so he may very well also know how to "avoid" No Names power by letting Braig's heart take the heat instead of his own. Interesting interesting!

[@Titan_Trainer]

@@TheSecretReports Glad to have interested you. It's so awesome discussing KH theories like this witg others, so thank you! It's been a fun talking about this. 😁

[@Andrew-wl3hn]

@@Titan_Trainer This thread blew my mind. I love this theory for sure

[@penumbra75]

"...back in 2014, thirty years ago." Big mood.

[@bpadel1446]

Luxu/braig/xigbar has always been 1 person he's just playing the part I truly believe luxu is the master of masters younger self I mean it is foreshadowed by the coat, not to mention them both saying" bingo" and the manerizomes

[@HumanDevilTV]

This video got me really hooked. Especially the theory of Luxu and Xehanort conspiring in some way, which would make sense, because since Re:Mind, we know that both of them are connected through the Master of Masters. Now here it starts to get interesting. Is this conspiracy all the Master's plan, or does Luxu actually pull the strings here. Since the end of KH3, Luxu saw his role fulfilled, that the Master of Masters bestowed upon him. So there is a high possibility that Luxu is trying to draw some sort of advantage from that freedom, now that he is free of his obligations, but that remains to be seen. In any case, you earned yourself another subscriber. And I can't wait to see what the future brings for KH and your videos! Keep it up! ^^

[@williamsrs7783]

Thanks for always including subtitles in your video. Helps me a lot

[@kennymccown1922]

I’m wondering what Braig was doing during the events of both 3d and KH3. If we go with the thought of him, Young Xehanort, and Xigbar working together outside of Organization 13’s goals, then that would tell what Luxu’s goals are.

[@BravestWarriorSubs]

I think one of the main problems with these theories is the place and time of the re: coded secret ending. Just because it's after re:coded doesn't mean it's happening after the events of the game. Just like the kh2 secret ending which placed us 10 years prior to the kh1 events. We need to understand where exactly does this part of the story fits according to the bits and pieces of information. That would explain why we're seeing braig and not old dude xigbar in some capacity.

[@MEMORIAHAVEN]

Spoiler Alert --------- > There is one thing that is clear about Braig/Xigbar/Luxu is the connection they have with the No Name Keyblade especially the bond with the sign of the Goat and the physical changes that come with it (Ears, Grey hair and Yellow eyes). The "darkness" survives because of their gift of hiding. Is there a way to hide your heart in a Keyblade in order to survive and hide in it? I truly believe that the darkness we have defeated in KH3 is the goat (the sin of lust) hidden in the Keyblade No Name and that may have influenced Luxu's decisions in the long term and if you look closely at the end of Kingdom Hearts III Xigbar/Braig/Luxu keeps the yellow eyes distinct from the connection with darkness. It is the expression of darkness personified by the sin itself. The true darkness personified by sin and the No Name Keyblade. Remember character Files - > "Suppose the black goat sends the white goat to find a letter that he hid of his own volition; with what purpose has he done so?" This could refer to Luxu and Xehanort. One had pure will and the other was completely dark. The darkness was finally able to reach Luxu after all that time after the Xehanort's defeat because Luxu is the only one who knows exactly the contents of the box and how to make it appear. In my opinion the darkness is trying to regroup. It will not surprise me to see a confrontation between the prophets and Luxu possessed by Darkness (goat) to reach the group of prophets with what is inside the box.

[@kaison12205]

Good to see you back

[@kuricosmos]

“Back in 2014, 30 years ago!” Hahahaha, it wasn't that far ago ;) That said, he confirms in the Ultimania that yes, Xigbar was meant to know more/be more back then. So no worries, you can see this in a I think KH2 scene where he teases Zexion about the true nature of Xemnas.

[@Josuh]

12:32 Neku just vibin there

[@vincentlorusso689]

The post edit notes are extraordinarily charming and informative. I really recommend pausing to check them all out on any of these videos.

[@AmeLilith]

That S.S. Nort visual is legit one of the best ways of understanding the time travel shenanigans going on in DDD and KH3

[@Kiki-deLucio]

I don't know how you did it, but you helped me understand things and made me utterly confused at the same time. Not because of you, but because of KH being KH.

[@keybladeterra]

First of all, I love this Second of all, I think Braig's body was empty on return as the original Braig's heart seems to be completely gone, so Luxu hopped back in before anyone else woke up, since he is used jumping bodies he might have recovered quicker?

[@akaia5035]

i love how informative and well composed your videos are

[@SpookyTanukiGaming]

The reason Braig would still have the scar if Luxu possessed him before then is because while the age might reset any physical damage might not. I'd assume if Terranort had a drastic injury before becoming a heartless/nobody that it would carry over to Terra upon recompletion.

[@katiebuuuuug]

You are an underrated genius! I really think you’re calling things years before we see them :) Thanks for the videos!! I look forward to more!!

[@keroclow9059]

The question we really should be asking , is if xigbar located candidates for organisation xiii ... Where the hell did he find the folk from quadratum ? 1. He already knew of the existence of quadratum 2. No one could find the box. Was it in unreality ? Does this explain where the original masters went ? 3. How did he get there and back? Implies he was near death or just a heart with no real body. He doesn't make sense. I feel that maybe the character luxu was an experiment before MoM made the dreameaters which might answer his strange ability.

[@MarrTheVindicated]

First of all, LOVE what you're doing. I haven't been this excited about Kingdom Hearts theories since the pre-BbS era and your style is well put together and entertaining. As for Luxu/Xigbar, what I'm wondering, from a meta-perspective as you put it, is whether or not pre-Luxu Braig is going to be relevant at all? Connecting Terranort's case to this is a good call mechanically but I'm not sure about it narratively? A lot of this might be complicated or simplified if Luxu got rid of Braig's heart at some point or upon possession or it got sent off to the Final World or who knows what. Maybe it's also the hurdle of Terranort, Ansem and Xemnas all seeming so distinct while Braig/Xigbar/Luxu just is one character to me. Seems like there's room for any number of wrenches in it all with Luxu's keybladeless control over his heart and how that might break the rules as we understand them. Either way, I'm eager to get more Luxu. I had always hoped Xigbar would outlast Xehanort and stick around for the future and wow did I get my wish. Also looking forward to your future reports.

[@AudoPlay]

For me I think the key lies in what happens to the original heart when they are possessed. Terra was a special case wherein, because of Eraqus stepping in his heart, he was able to ward off Xehanort, but for an average person, Xehanort's heart would engulf theirs and consume them. Nomura stated that this is what would happen to the XIII Darknesses if Sora didn't rid them of Xehanort: - What happens to the hearts of those who have had Master Xehanort’s heart planted within them? Nomura: They’ll gradually be swallowed by it. As for Master Xehanort, he plans to control them completely. So I think the key is that Luxu, when he possessed Braig, consumed his heart and at that point, Braig's body essentially became his. So when he became a Nobody and when he was recompleted it wasn't a case like MX+Terra where they recompleted separately but rather that Braig/Xigbar are him alone now basically.

[@TheSecretReports]

Once again Audo you always bring up great points, and this was something I hadn't thought of! "Braig's body essentially became his" so do you think that when Xigbar first became a Nobody and was regrowing a heart, that the heart that was regrown belonged to Luxu, with his memories and such? Or do you think that the body still recognized its original identity and regrew a "Braig" heart? It would be interesting if bodies eventually "adopt" new identities because it adapted to an invading heart.... if that makes sense haha

[@stevemiller52]

The effort and production value always blows me away.

[@KyleLyre13]

I honestly think Nomura had some idea that No Name and Xigbar/Braig would be connected since BBS. Nomura got really serious with cinematic cues around that time, and the first time we see No Name in game (not in the secret movie), is when it's used to threaten Braig, they do this angle that shows the Keyblade aimed Braig and the camera holds on that for a good bit of time. The scene definitely has some heavy vibes in retrospect.

[@HansPeter-iv9ck]

There is one huge fact missing in this video and it could also explain since when Xigbar is not Xigbar anymore but Lucu (is he written like that ?) Lucu said in one sentence that he and i quote "always keeps an eye" on the No Name Keyblade and that he wanted to take it back from Xehanort when the time has come. So keeping that in mind we go further back into the past. Further into the past: " Who trained Xehanorth in the first place ?" Only a Master can train new Masters and the No Name wasnt wielded by anyone at the time Xehanort was young and still in training. Keeping in mind all that happened so far Lucu didnt find anyone worthy wielding No Name so its possible he trained someone worth himself. He also said that everything went according to his plans so everything Xehanort did was wanted by Lucu. So its save to assume that Lucu is Xehanorts Master and he corrupted him and his view of the world. I mean its kinda odd that Xehanort and Eraques both have the same Master but are teached differently dont you think ? Its also kinda odd that said Master still teaches Xehanort even tho he should have been able to sense the darkness inside his heart dont you think ? Lucu made Xehanort into what he is as his Master and he watched him as a "supordinate" in the organisation and made sure everything plays out as he intended. Xigbar was already Lucu in BBS because he had to make sure Terra becomes a new Vessel......and he did make sure that this happens. So every time we see Xigbar he is Lucu because as Lucu said he will "always keeps an eye" on his Keyblade. It all fits perfectly into each other.

[@MahmWithThePlan]

It's a glorious day when The Secret Reports returns! My favourite KH KZbinr!

[@BrennySpain]

I always wondering why the prologue of DDD was the way it was, but when you look at the recoded secret ending it started to make more sense.

[@oliversearles7218]

My personal theory is the master of masters possessed luxu and stole his identity. Luxu is revealed to be xigbar/braig so it would explain their similar personality quirks. We know that Braig loses his eye fighting Terra, but there are still multiple moments highlighting his one eye. It feels like an allusion to the MoM's eye in no name, but I have no "real" proof

[@Flynn327]

The visual polish of these videos never fails to impress! Loved the icons of his Arrowguns all throughout the graphics!

[@petroscardoso]

geez got a hell of an headache when you started talking bout the timelines of the possessions

[@jamiewallaxe4784]

After Dark Road, I believe its undeniable that Luxu had taken Braig as a vessel before BBS. Dark Road has Bragi during the reveal say "As if" Xigbars catchphrase. Before Dark Road, it could be argued that its a phrase that Luxu picked after he made Braig his vessel, in other words Braig could have still been himself during BBS. But with Dark Road confirming that Luxu is using "As if!" 60 years before BBS as Bragi, yeah its a definitive nail in the coffin. Luxu was Braig during BBS.

[@sagacious03]

Yayyyy! New The Secret Reports video! Super happy to see another video from you! Will probably comment more after I watch this; Yes, I'm that excited!

[@SkilledYetTalentless]

Looking at the Re:Coded cutscene again, a new revelation has come to me. Young Xenahort's cut-off S-, I and others had assumed it be Saix, but now I realise there's another candidate: 'Subject X'.

[@TheDoremifan1]

Nope it’s Saix. After all Braig was clearly gesturing to the unconscious people behind him

[@betwixtyiff8773]

This was a really great video! I'll be real I never noticed Xigbar's model discrepancies until now, but looking at them now has me thinking back on the scenes in question. Part of me wonders if like if say Braig woke up free of Luxu's influence, walked out the door, where Luxu's heart then time traveled to possess Braig outside of the computer room in say, Ansem's office or something. But that feels too mundane an explanation for Kingdom Hearts (though as every prediction with this series I love eating my words). I feel there's definitely more to Luxu and during his middle years (BBS to KH3) behind the scenes than meets the eye and I hope for your analysis and thoughts on him in the future especially as the series sees more releases! (PS I follow you on twitter and tumblr and I just want to say the level of humor you injected into this video was more than welcome and didn't feel like it distracted from the topic at all)

[@ProtoStan]

My personal explanation is that the original Braig's heart is completely gone. Considering that Xehanort planned to have Terra's heart "wash away in darkness" which I presume means that it would've been permanently destroyed. If we are to assume that only didn't happen because of Terra's strong resolve and personal connections, we can also assume that Luxu could've done that to Braig without much issue because of Braig not showing a powerful heart or extreme resolve like Terra. And it would make sense that Luxu would understand who a prime possession subject is because of the implication that he done it before, unlike Xehanort who is doing this for the very time. Also do we know when Radiant Garden falls and org 13 is created? Because I always assumed that the reason Axel, Isa, and Ienzo are adults as nobodies because Radiant Garden falls way after bbs takes place.

[@TheSecretReports]

Yeah a few other people suggested something like this, and it's something I hadn't thought of! Very interesting. I wonder if Xigbar, as a brand new Nobody, would grow a heart that originally belonged to the body (so, a "Braig" heart) or if the body somehow _adopted_ Luxu so it regrew _his_ heart. If Xigbar as a nobody regrew a Luxu heart, it would teach us a lot about how bodies consider the heart to regrow and who's "identity" it belongs to! Also thanks to KH3, Lea confirms that they became Nobodies soon after Subject X went missing kzbin.info/www/bejne/bGTZoZVpitqSiKM We also see Ienzo's child model in DDD's prologue, rather than his adult model. I also suggest looking at the timeline in the description because that further combs through the timeline of Radiant Garden's fall

[@ProtoStan]

@@TheSecretReports cool beans on the timeline, I had no reference on when the organization actually came to be and radiant garden fell. But considering Roxas and Xion seem to have the capacity to become the dominant personality(?) or being of Sora's heart, I wouldn't be surprised if its possible for bodies to just grow accustomed to entirely foreign heart. I guess supporting this is Roxas and Xion specifically getting entirely new hearts for their bods unlike the other organization members who regrew theirs.

[@andreaxyz51]

I’ve seen a lot of kh videos but yours are soo good, sounds graphics and how you make theories and give evidence of what you say. Icons everything, just don’t stop, I think you deserve more visibility and subscribers🖤

[@NEndTV]

Look, I'm only 52 seconds into this video, but I have to say I love the format you have going on. The layout, the editing, it's really good. Looking forward to seeing you grow.

[@Andrew-wl3hn]

Ugh amazing as usual Mel!! Might have to watch this one a couple times to fully grasp it but i definitely agree that something fishy is going on that we don't know about in the Re: Coded scene. I too rewatched it a couple weeks ago and knew something more is happening there now that we know Xigbar is Luxu. and it makes total sense that Braig and Luxu would be recompleted in a similar fashion to TEera and Xehanort; That was something i hadn't considered and I'm SURE will come into play.

[@inxine]

7:13 i would like to point out that, this is exactly the reason why most people are confused about this whole damn story haha but you did a wonderful job. i love how detailed and organised everything is! also, i did catch the Neku body at the end of the video, so sneaky haha

[@doopderp]

Don’t sleep on one of the best KH content creators !!! Back again !

[@jorgeroper8749]

Personally I think Braig was possessed by Luxu after BBS and the main reason I think this the case is when Xehanort held Braig at his throat at the end of the Gazing Eye keyblade, there's nothing to suggest he's familiar with this weapon yet, no hint that he's the one to watch out for it as Luxu was supposed to, unless Luxu already knew he had the keyblade from way back in Xehanorts timeline which I just don't currently think is the case. Granted this bit of the story probably wasn't written yet, so there'd be no reason to expect that it would be there, but because the plot developed this way, this is why I think this to be the case

[@hillaryslack2884]

I do have a theory about Dillan/Xaldin. His Nobody is the only one that acts differently then his Somebody without a very good reason. Some act differently because of a lost of memories but that isn't what happened to Dillan. Isa and Ienzo act differently because they grew up and have motivations to act differently. Dillan just acts the most villain like of any of the Nobodies for no reason that I can see and then changes again when he becomes himself again. Well maybe it is a bit hard to tell how he is acting when he doesn't talk. Anyway what I think is happening is that Dillan was taken over by a Darkness when he was a Nobody and thus was never able to grow a new heart. I am not sure if he is still possessed by a Darkness who isn't talking because the Darkness doesn't know how to act like a real person or if he was freed when recompleted but the experience made it difficult for him to speak. Or maybe they just don't have a VA for him. I am not sure if that would affect how the character looks though. However he wouldn't be the only character that changed how he looks from Nobody to Somebody after all Lea loses his cheek marks. Dillan's not seeming to age might just be that he is act the age that where you don't change much for a long time until you start looking older. I am not sure that I am willing to decide one way or the other which of these three theories about Luxu I agree with if any of them. Though I think theory 2 makes the most sense to me. Though some version of theory 3 might also be a lot of fun. I do want to know why you think that Luxu was always inside Braig in BBS. It seems most likely to me that the yellow eyes where given to Braig when Luxu chose to possess him. After all the foretellers all have yellow eyes, even though in chi when a person choses there Union the symbols of the foretellers all have there eyes a different colors. Only Ira is different on both counts in Chi his eyes are already yellow and later they change to red. I am not really convinced that we know what yellow eyes really mean but it does seem like Luxu should have them since the other foretellers do. Which means that Braig should not be possessed until the point he has yellow eyes. I could be wrong of course, the only way we will ever know for sure is if we see Luxu possess Braig at some point. I wonder who will show us something like that, either Luxu or Kairi would be my guess though it is hard to tell how much Kairi could have seen at such a young age.

[@sgamerboy-hp4ni]

Nice work, this video definitely shows that these theories are worth looking into.Great work on the cutscenes you use to support your theories, and the sound effects are nice.

[@Avalinara]

Always so thorough. And look at that diligent description! I love it. I’m sure you do such good work irl too. Absolutely killing it, girl!

[@thebirbgaming]

I'm glad I found this channel before working on the second season of my kingdom hearts fan edit. a lot of good info

[@lorisceleste1860]

I just love the graphics in your videos. You deserve more subscribers tbh

[@temetyly]

This was the best surprise 🙌🏿🙌🏿 and with the most intriguing topic to 💃🏿 I've thought a lot about the Xig-Lu dynamic, especially when exactly Braig becomes possessed. Amazing work as per usual! 👌🏿

[@liamfitzgerald1400]

Oh, boy.... I had legitimately never even considered this as a possibility. If this really goes down I don’t even know anymore haha. Smashing work as always.

[@friendlyandroid]

It's so good to see you again! I loved the video. You always manage to make me excited about new possibilities.

[@mindsteve]

Glad to have another video from you. Your video goes way into explaining why the nobodies and somebodies of some characters look so different, going so far as to assume time travel. I always figured the somebodies in BBS and elsewhere looked different precisely because they were somebodies--not because they were younger. After all, Xemnas doesn't look like Terra(nort), Namine doesn't look like Kairi, and Roxas doesn't look like Sora (explained later by Ven's heart, but still). It's true that age played a role too, like with Ienzo, but I think the reason they used the BBS designs for Dilan, Braig, and co. was because that is how they look as humans. Of course, they should probably look like older versions of those designs, but KH goes way out of its way to avoid making new models where possible. Also, this is unrelated but you also said that Lea and Isa became nobodies as kids. As far as I know, we still don't know when they actually became nobodies. It could have been much closer to KH1 than BBS for all we know. Anyway can't wait for the next vid. I'd like to hear your thoughts on the newer details that have come out from KHUX and Dark Road.

[@TheSecretReports]

I always assumed Xemnas (as well as Ansem SoD), Namine, and Roxas don't look *exactly* like their human counterparts due to the human having multiple hearts within them. Namine, for example, is blonde right? Ansem the Wise states in Secret Ansem Report 10 that Namine's body and soul were created from Sora, but since Namine's hair isn't brown, we gotta assume Ventus had something to do with Namine's appearance as well (that is not confirmed, just the common acceptation among fans for years now). And while there's always room for debate in this subject, I am someone who believes that Ventus affected the way Roxas looks, but I do not believe Ventus's heart was within Roxas. Roxas "acted like a zombie" where he spaced out a lot, had short term memory, etc because he hadn't grown a heart yet. But like Joshua and Ansem the Wise explain in DDD, the more people interacted with Roxas, the more he came to his own and grew a heart. I personally think if Roxas had always had Ven's heart within him during the time of Days, Roxas would never have acted like a zombie since he already had a heart within him. But like I said, that's just my belief haha My point is that I think any Nobody created from people who have multiple hearts within theirs may be vulnerable to those hearts interacting and mixing up the appearance the Nobody receives when they're created. That's why every other Nobody (Axel, Saix, Lexaeus, etc etc) looks exactly like their human counterparts. ---- Now as for Lea and Isa becoming kids, I really should have included this cutscene in the video, so I apologize I did not. But Lea and Isa's conversation confirm that they became Nobodies soon after Subject X disappeared kzbin.info/www/bejne/bGTZoZVpitqSiKM

[@mindsteve]

@@TheSecretReports That's a good point about the other Nobodies. Vexen looks basically identical too. And Lea looks pretty much the same, but he at lost his tear marks, so there are some guaranteed physical differences between nobodies and somebodies at least. I honestly think the reason a bunch of them are identical as somebodies in kh3 is just because they wanted to keep their familiar/popular appearances, plus it means they don't have to make new ones--lore inconsistencies be damned. I wish they put more effort into keeping their world logic straight but alas. I don't put much stock in the hair color thing personally. I think it's just a design choice. Xion has black hair, but no one connected to her had black hair. It's just her design, I believe.

[@KhalilEstell]

Just want to say, I absolutely love your video style and presentation of KH theories!

[@KeyToDarkness]

What I would like to know is what happened to Braig’s heartless in the first place? From what I understand a person with a strong heart will develop a more powerful heartless (like Ansem did in KH1), even without a body couldn’t Braig go back to the point before DDD and become whole again? We know that hearts can travel through time as we see the cloaked Ansem throughout the series. Who’s the say that Braig can’t do the same? Or better yet, could Braig himself be a Heartless?

[@TheSecretReports]

From what I understand, Sora was able to regain his form from being a Heartless thanks to Kairi, and Ansem SoD was able to regain his from due to Riku, so it'll be interesting to see if Braig was able to do the same but without relying on someone to do so!

[@flygonkerel781]

THANK YOU!!! IVE BEEN WANTHING A VIDEO ANOUT HIS RECOMPLETION AND WHETHER HE DID IT ALL ON PURPOSE

[@KingTai64]

I'm glad you acknowledge the big goof that is Terranort should've been the main antagonist in kh 3 as old man-nort shouldn't have a body anymore. This video well acurateley fixes this, I hope Nomura hires you, cause he needs this to fix up his holes.

[@darrenrita]

Love the ideas you purposed and I’m so happy I found this channel!

[@Sanimatez7865]

You know there’s something about what Braig/Luxu said to Xehanort in BBS. “All Inask is that you hold up your end of the bargain.” What was that bargain to begin with? Was it Power, to have a chair as one of the organization members, or because Xehanort said he “Bequeath him” as a keyblade weirder as we figured out in KH3?

[@KingdomAce]

Sorry I'm days late, but seeing a new video from you is a wonderful treat 🙇

[@TheSecretReports]

Thank you Jordan!!

[@KeremyJing]

10:32 that was an incredibly creative use of that sound

[@skittezraine]

Awesome video as always! A thought I had after watching, maybe Braig was possessed in the Keyblade Graveyard by Luxu before his fight with Aqua in BBS.

[@NineWhile9]

You deserve more love on KZbin. Also only you could make Re:coded interesting

[@benjibuckley9356]

A theory that I believe is that Luxu possessed Braig sometime after his fight with Terra. I believe the version of Braig that approached Aqua/Ven in the Keyblade Graveyard with yellow eyes was Luxu. I don't know how Luxu did it, but the Braig with yellow eyes seems suspiciously more wry and "matter-of-fact". The Braig that fought Terra was rash, one dimensional and asked far more questions than Xigbar ever did. At the Keyblade Graveyard, he looks at Ventus with such confirmation and recognition. "Black Powder" is what plays during his fight with Terra, but with Aqua? "Another Side" plays instead. A monumental boss theme. It wasn't a version of 13th Dilemma or Black Powder again, but Another Side. A theme fitting for Luxu's circumstances. Another Side begins with Org13's theme, or rather, Xigbar's theme in DDD. Nomura often says things in interviews that contradict or are only half-truths, such as Ventus' heart being inside of Roxas which was never true. If Nomura has said "Braig was Luxu since the beginning", he could mean since the events of BBS, not necessarily before BBS happened. We know that Luxu has the unique ability to take vessels without a Keyblade unlike Xehanort. The difference between them being their origins in Light and Darkness; Xehanort's technique of taking a vessel may be a dark art, something that sacrifices one's self for immediate results, but what if Luxu's technique is a light art bestowed upon him by MoM? I say this because I can only think of one other character who can hide within another character: Eraqus. After Eraqus died, he sought refuge within Terra but we've never seen a heartless/nobody of Eraqus despite everything Terra has been through. Do you think Luxu's ability is similar to Eraqus', where he can only switch vessels after his current one has died? This could explain why Luxu was never in any real danger despite Xigbar being defeated, recompleted etc. Because Braig/Xigbar never definitively "died". The only caveat is Eraqus never took over Terra, but Luxu seems to be the one calling the shots in the vessel. Your theories/editing are some of the best on KZbin! KEEP IT UP!!

[@MetalPcAngel]

All aboard the S.S. Nort! We going down the Theory river!

[@loganmccurter]

This video is SO well made wtf! I can't wait to watch more pf your content :)

[@tryashtar]

Great video as always. The section about nobodies aging made me curious about something, I wonder about your opinion. Namine visibly ages between Re:Chain and KH2, do you think she grew a heart during that time? Now that I think back she obviously has one by the end of KH3, but it does seem a bit odd that the "burgeoning replacement" took a decade to manifest for most of the organization members, but ostensibly happened instantly for her. And Roxas, for that matter, though I would venture that the relationship between the Days trio expedited theirs, while Namine wouldn't really have an equivalent to that experience that I can think of. Do we have any examples of nobodies that *didn't* age (as nobodies)? I think currently I'm of the opinion that nobodies age regardless of a heart, and Ventus/Kairi's heartless "stasis" is a distinct enough phenomenon to have different rules. But maybe I'm overlooking something. Would love to hear your thoughts about this, and also any ideas about the seemingly different rates at which hearts regrew

[@TheSecretReports]

While I could very well be in the wrong here, I think Nobodies that haven't grown their hearts yet are very zombie-ish. Like take Roxas in the beginning of Days for example, or Ventus when he met Terra and Aqua after his heart was recently shattered. It seems like when characters start making eye contact, talking to one another, acknowledging their surroundings, just in general being more aware and less zombie-like, that's when they've regrown a heart. So yeah I absolutely think Namine grew a heart! I would say she had one at least by the time CoM started since she's already talking to the Larxene, Marluxia, and the other members of the Organization. Joshua and DiZ talk about how it's interacting with things and people that make them grow hearts, kzbin.info/www/bejne/lZmyoK1-r6iXgZY kzbin.info/www/bejne/f4aUh4aamMSViLM So I think that's WHY Ventus never grew another heart, he was stuck alone in the chamber of waking for all that time. And for Kairi, I think her body flinching when Sora reached out to it in Neverland is a hint that it WAS regrowing another heart (because Riku, Wendy, and Sora were interacting with her) but Kairi's heart returned to it before that could completely happen. However, these are not confirmed, just what I personally think comparing all these different empty bodies and Nobodies. Eventually I'd love to make a video about this subject, so I'm glad you asked!!

[@tryashtar]

@@TheSecretReports That makes complete sense! Thanks for your reply