XTRONIC CVT in the 2013 Nissan Altima | AutoMotoTV

[@vorant77]

Basically a throwaway transmission.

[@vorant77]

I know several respected transmission shops in my area that refuses to touch them, they have the same opinion.

[@eagle___empire3175]

Moron.

[@Ace-kp4fx]

I have 115k miles on my 2006 Nissan Altima and it has a CVT. Starting to think their not as bad as everyone says....

[@wysmn]

DO NOT GET A CVT NISSAN. I buy millions of dollars worth of cars a month for my GM at a dealership and we literally banned buying any Nissans with a CVT. Now a Honda CVT isnt bad, but a Nissan is almost guaranteed to have issues

[@Mabeylater293]

Reliability is the biggest reason to stay away from anything produced by Renault-Nissan.

[@PLATINUM2U]

TruAgape1234 I couldnt have said it better! AVOID Renault Nissan Altogether.

[@argint7875]

2015 Altima 21k miles, “It needs a new transmission and it’s out of any kind of warranty due to salvage title “ this is what dealer said after charging me $260 for diagnosis. First and last Nissan

[@steven7297]

Really what model Nissan and how did it go?

[@wrenchone5003]

we lived in the rocky mountains the first 5 years that rogue has been all over the country 118k flawless miles ,many road trips of 1000+ miles

[@sunnysacto]

CTV has been good for my CA valley driving. Steep hills cause erratic shifting. Manually holding in lower gear when up steep hill solves issue.

[@hozeb87]

the cvt is good. the problem is that the manual says "replace fluid every 30,000 miles" but when you take it to nissan they never mention it or tell you its part of the maintenance, hence why it fails at 80k. I have my altima and did my own cvt fluid change at 50k and my car went back to driving like new; all transmission fluids go bad

[@DrDaddy-yg2ki]

Ill be doing the pathfinders fluid every 30 thou and the filter at 60

[@charlesmacgilchrist3648]

so it went from 28 to 30mph in 2 seconds - nice work with the CVT!I like how the wider ratio from 6.0 : 7.0 is like 32mpg : 37mpg.

[@motorwig6666]

I bought the first nissan rogue in 08 with a awd cvt and it has been flawless through 110 k with only one cvt fluid change , I understand why in most daily driver applications why most the companies are going that route or will be in the future it makes sense ...sometimes change is good its OK !

[@egustafson]

Do you live where it's flat?

[@vaporks]

just got my altima 13 back from our local dealer in Kuwait, the CVT transmission failed just two weeks after the warranty had expired 🤬(5 years, 90k kilometers). They offered to charge me about 5000$ (almost 60% of the total cost they say given my perfect service record 😬). Luckily, I reported a problem in the transmission 10 days before warranty which was not fixed properly obviously. This helped me try to push for a full warranty repair and finally got my transmission fully replaced. I must say the car has been very kind except for infrequent gearbox problems that I hope are fixed by now..

[@steven7297]

Were you financing ?

[@JohnS-il1dr]

@@steven7297 how is it now??

[@geraldocesarrodrigues8285]

A NISSAN é realmente ousada em tecnologia. O CVT XTRONIC já está sendo utilizado nos veículos de entrada da marca como MARCH e VERSA 1.6. Parabéns à NISSAN pela iniciativa, pois isso vai gerar mais confiança e prazer na hora de dirigir um NISSAN!

[@NoName-gv6nm]

34k miles on my 2015 not a single issue and getting 32 mpg in suburbs. It's not as bad as you all say. Just gotta adjust your driving habits. And not abuse it.

[@olafv.2741]

Look at 0:50.... Both cylinder 2 and 3 shown in combustion stroke! Why believe the rest...

[@FNHaole]

My NV200 cargo (same drivetrain) carries the full compliment of tools I use for solar water heating and PV. Pali Highway to Ewa plain, I get decent economy and sufficient power...so far. I'll definitely update this with gripes if they arise, but so far, I'm floored at the performance.

[@egustafson]

That giant van has this transmission?

[@FNHaole]

You're thinking of the NV2500; The one that looks like a pickup got raped by a Sprinter, but chose to keep the baby.

[@TheAtomicsoft]

the nv 200 is the little cargo van not the 2500 thats the big one

[@knightrider1545]

In my opinion, it feels like unlike the auto ring geared automatic decreases hp, the xtronic cvt feel like it adds at least 20 hp compared to a regular automatic transmission.

[@martywallace592]

I own a 2008 Nissan Altima. It has 130k miles on it. And I have not had one problem with the cvt.

[@Mabeylater293]

How many miles were on the car when u bought it?

[@martywallace7932]

+TruAgape1234 About 100k

[@MrMikeVo]

I have an 07 Altima, 130k miles. No major problems with anything on it. Nissan ❤️

[@striker1752]

Any problems yet?

[@calvinrovinescu6166]

The second generation is a major improvement. The performance demonstration really only applies to gutless 4 cylinders and if the thing still has a torque converter it can't be better on gas.

[@paullangford8179]

It's not so bad: the torque converter lock can cut in earlier on a CVT.

[@MrSunSetts]

I also love how cvts drive like there 2 gears.... 1st and 6th.. either the engine is screaming and stressing itself to death. ... or its low rpms kill the belt tensioner and the car lags like 56k dial up

[@Easystreet208]

You cannot beat on these CVT transmissions. I wouldn't go over 4K rpm and change the Transmission fluid every 40-50K and you might get to 200K Miles. Its not a question of if but when it will fail.

[@balvadeniz]

Maybe a different transmission system can use manual gear and 2 shift ctv together. when you are at heavy traffic (damper to damper traffic) you can push a button and than you can use two gear cvt. After heavy traffic you push a button and you use manual transmission. two shift transmission is cheap. And totaly system will not be expensive but it will be very usable and effective.

[@puchu9507]

nobody mentioned the friction loss, and the failure probability , the energy waste in CVT

[@puchu9507]

***** true

[@martinandersson5278]

+skutch Blobaum well new modern transmissions like the 8-speed ZF have lock up function of the torque converter with minimal loss you get a better mileage then a manual

[@blackz06]

Hard to beat the Corolla CVT. 80mph @ 22 rpms. 45+mpg on country backroads. I love it!

[@paullangford8179]

That uses Toyota's dual electric motor/generator and eplcyclic gear train CVT, not the modified rubber band drive. That can run from 0 rpm, and has many fewer moving parts (have you looked at how complex a torque converter really is?).

[@bo0ode23]

كما انا اعشق هذا الاختراع عشقي لا ينتهي مع سيارات نيسان cvt تغير في عالم ناقل الحركة

[@quadrunner2124]

Once the belt goes on this transmission, how hard is it to replace? On anything but a car its made to be pretty easy for the most part. I can't even see where the engine is in a Nissan though.

[@egustafson]

It's a nightmare. The broken belt flies apart in a million pieces and every internal needs to be replaced. Quickly done as long as the case is okay.

[@jakelovescinema]

the part that is confusing me is, what is the belt made of? it must have some really rigid material so it doesn't fold when the clutches compress it.

[@upurnose46]

+Jacob S steel

[@egustafson]

It's steel plates. The clutches don't actually compress it, it's the moving pulley that squeezes it making it easy to slide. It works but it's truly a crappy design

[@paullangford8179]

Think of a long steel spring.

[@C-NoteMac]

Well it has potential to be great.

[@Infovince3434]

Since the belt is the weakest part of this mecanism, the acceleration from standing point is pretty weak too. Should always accelerate slowly from standing point with a CVT, espacially Nissan's.

[@theanimeotaku2794]

There’s many cons to cvt transmissions it’s called torque so it’s hard to accelerate in general

[@osirismalu3394]

i also have that nissan altima 2013 that hardly get btoken and very good in gaz

[@miguelisms]

So they're basically turning all cars into really big snowmobiles??? The only place these belong in are 2 strokes engines that's it! How often will you need to replace the belt?? I have to replace my snowmobile belt almost every season after 1000+ miles.

[@agnichatian]

Anyone know how to identify for certain if a given Altima has this XTRONIC ? I am looking at an Altima on a lot right now but I don't see anything on the car that indicates this.

[@poikaa3]

It is either stick shift or CVT

[@xmsteel]

poikaa3 Not really. It depends on the year. Newer ones have CVT, older ones have regular auto with OD.

[@johnferguson7235]

I had a Nissan Altima as a rental car. It was the worst driving car I have ever encountered. When climbing up hill, the car kept first revving the engine and then bogging the engine, then revving the engine and then bogging the engine. It was constantly going through these cycles as I tried to drive up hill at a constant speed. It was impossible to keep a constant speed as the car went up hill. The CVT might work on flat roads but when you drive up hills you expose the weaknesses in the design.

[@MrMikeVo]

I own a 07 Altima with cvt, when driving up a hill it should be very smooth, I live in a city that's very hilly and never had a problem. You sure u weren't driving in "slap stick mode" where you have to change "gears"? That's the only way I can think of that would make the engine keep reving weirdly on hills. Not blaming you or anything

[@johnferguson7235]

MrMikeVo It was a rental car that we picked up in Pittsburgh and drove around the local countryside. If I pressed the gas pedal just a fraction of an inch as I drove up hill, the engine would suddenly switch to a lower gear ratio and the engine RPM would suddenly double and the car would surge uphill. It was worse as we hit steeper slopes followed by shallower slopes. Nissan needs to develop the CVT with better computer controls to prevent this behavior.

[@PLATINUM2U]

MrMikeVo my 07 altima is on its 5th cvt replacement. got it in 2006.

[@johnferguson7235]

Hybridlancer2000 It's time to quit.

[@PLATINUM2U]

John Ferguson it only has 210k miles. My 2003 altima has 379k miles. Its 4 speed auto is all original.

[@mikewest712]

cvt is a way for renault to save money. i am currently driving a 2013 altima in the ozark mountains and it is terrible.

[@egustafson]

My sister has a sentra with a cvt... Going back and forth from phoenix to flagstaff AZ (800ft to 7000ft elevation) killed the transmission twice in 3 years(belt and planet gear replacement)

[@Mabeylater293]

All of their crap products are designed to save them money. But that's how they get ya. They hide behind Nissans pre-Renault good reputation to dupe the customer into buying a Renault piece of junk.

[@Sevan59]

@@Mabeylater293 wow you know nothing about cars , cvt is 100% made by Nissan and before Nissan - Renault alliance , Renault has zero contribution in designing or manufacturing any cvt it is pure Nissan .

[@JohnS-il1dr]

@@Sevan59 regardless its still a nissan junk transmission. and Jatco makes them not Nissan. Nissan is just a majority stakeholder in that shameful company aka Jatco or Junkco

[@JoseLopez-tc9dr]

What happens if you don't check transmission fluid, since it is seal trans, in 100k miles?

[@paullangford8179]

It doesn't last that long, so you don't have a problem.

[@fettster279]

Have a 2013 with a CVT and its already being replaced with a new one. Only 4 years.

[@k.c.slawncare6046]

I have a 2012 CVT equipped Versa that was presented to me as my first car. I looked at all of the service records for the vehicle that my uncle kept and the only thing I can see related to the transmission is re-programing and a solved recall that caused the gear selector to slip out of park. 90,000km and running strong so far. When it's my turn to buy a vehicle, I'll stay away from CVTs though.

[@marcsee4072]

Hi all, looking for some opinions on CVT noise - high pitched, whining noise after 30min driving or so. The car was inveloved in rear end accident - quite strong one. I have stopped on the lights and then car hit me from the back at around 40km/h... also i was on the full break as I just stopped - the car was pushed about 1 meter in front. since then the high pitched, whining noise started. Now the insurance company questions this and suggesting wear and tear... is there any thing connecting and disconnecting when the car is stopped and can this mechanism be damaged by heavy impact (rattle like) in the accident? thanks m

[@NoName-gv6nm]

These cars all make whining sounds from the electric power steering motor.

[@Kevin-sg5xc]

This video makes CVT's seem like the best thing since sliced bread. Drive one and you'll want to jump out of the moving car. Quietness? LOL the CVT makes more noise and rumbling than a damn Harrier during vertical landing. Good MPG you say? Mine doesn't get close to the advertised values, and I have yet to figure out why (I drive like a granny). Do yourself a favor, don't buy a Nissan product in general and stay away from CVT's until they are engineered to work correctly and last. If you don't believe me, look up the enormous amount of CVT failures on Nissans that are less than 3 years old.

[@Kevin-sg5xc]

It's quite worse in the winter when the temperature drops below 40F as well. For whatever reason, the low temps cause the CVT to vibrate MUCH more. When it's very cold out and I go through a car wash where warm water is sprayed underneath the car, the CVT actually warms up and is smoother for the next few miles before becoming rough again.

[@richystar2001]

CVT belts slip in very cold conditions.

[@aracecar4627]

richystar2001 good thing I live in texas. LOL

[@AntiBroke19]

Adam racecar Same here! Lowest it gets here is like 34 degrees and it's only for a couple days.

[@k.c.slawncare6046]

I've noticed mine behaves in a slightly different manner in the winter months. I'll give it gas, nothing, nothing, nothing, and then suddenly I get launched. It's not a big deal, just some adjustment to driving style is all. It's perfect 3 seasons out of the year though. I should mention that it's my first car and was practically given to me. If it was my money, I don't think I'd buy something with a CVT unless it was a snow machine!

[@debendragurung3033]

Lol 😂 that animation though

[@mrn8801]

Like my scooter at home

[@nurbsenvi]

Why does it have a torque converter?

[@egustafson]

Same reason any automatic transmission has. Allowing the engine and transmission to be separated. Input needs to be controlled the same way as a regular automatic transmission to geek the engine from stalling at stoplights

[@paullangford8179]

Because unlike the Toyota electric CVT, it can't go from 0 rpm. So the torque converter takes care of that first awkward bit.

[@lopez12345ml]

untill belt breaks

[@FreedomHooter]

MelvinLopez aye Dopey? lol

[@Brennonicolini]

Yeah everything looks good on paper. I had my share with the CVT in a honda Fit... Its dreadful... NEVER AGAIN! Either a normal automatic or back to stick shift.

[@paullangford8179]

Try the Toyota hybird: that has dual electric motor/generators and a simple epicyclic gear train. less parts than any of the other systems, and no torque converter. No starter motor as it uses the transmission to spin up the ICE (Internal Combustion Engine). No belts.

[@poikaa3]

Snowmobile technology!

[@sluce8623]

golf cart on steroids

[@paullangford8179]

How long will it last? 300,000 miles? 50,000 miles? WOrks OK in a Honda scooter, so I guess it just needs to be scaled up for a car. Much better is Toyota's dual motor/generator and epicyclic gear train with many fewer parts.

[@AntiBroke19]

Well no worries for me on my 2016 Altima I'm set for lifetime warranty on engine an transmission

[@curtbaskin1291]

AntiBroke19 yea but it's not lifetime only internal parts if a seal like that bust guess what it's not covered

[@AntiBroke19]

Curt Baskin Actually I am, by my dealership Im covered for 6years on bumper to bumper including free windshield as well. After 6 years it's lifetime on engine and transmission only. for any reason with only a 100$ deductible. Thats my dealerships warranty.

[@curtbaskin1291]

AntiBroke19 well that's pretty good I think most of the 2013 CVT transmission is going to be recalled soon

[@curtbaskin1291]

I have 2013 Sentra and its about to be recalled on transmission

[@AntiBroke19]

I haven't herd anything on that. Will have to look into it.

[@nawdawg]

Video does not play

[@FreedomHooter]

Michael Garcia aye Dopey? lol

[@nguyenhoangphutungcogioi6093]

thanks.

[@Infovince3434]

Merging into highway illegal move right there. Supposed to give priority to the cars on the highway first and then merge in.

[@scotter2087]

lol cvt is a cheap junk design. Cheaper and lighter to produce but will cost you once the cars out of warranty

[@ericbanagasorejel7520]

If cvt is so realiable as the video show, why sport cars, f1 or militar vehicles use It? And the reason is that It was made for confort. Not for situations where torq will Be needed. And every one Who have driven for a few years, will Know that this kund of Power os the diference that counts. A clasic sutomatic transmisión with 6 shift, easily defeat a cvt trans without any loose of Power.

[@klepetar]

reliability??

[@Mabeylater293]

It’s Renault Nissan. So its unreliable.

[@davidrusjan]

last song name?

[@akechi088]

CVT transmissions are junk. I wouldn't be surprised if Nissan decided to throw one into the 370z or the GTR. Hell, I'm suprised they haven't done it already for the 370z especially since now all their regular cars have CVT.

[@Wojciech940]

+oro xiong Well, they would have to put twice as stong engine to a car to suffice how sloppy this transmision has to be.

[@RevolvoDoOr]

GOD FORBID

[@kylerider5519]

All the car companies are putting cvt in cars.

[@TheGomezIndustries]

Putting a golf cart transmission in automobiles is one mankind’s biggest failures.

[@AlainHubert]

CVT for cars is the worst engineering idea ever ! Doomed from the start.

[@jerryl5895]

CVT Transmission are great, they get better gas mileage... So when it fucks up you can spend your gas savings and more into fixing it!!!!

[@curtbaskin1291]

np

[@INGZV]

CVT = Crap Value Transmission !

[@INGZV]

dizzy r dirty mexican whats that ? im a engeneer, i know more than you ! you dont study in a university !

[@keysglim]

uriel zavala garcia haha :D it is a rubber bend transmission. I m near 10year manual transmission driver. still very used to shifting gear.

[@Lee-70ish]

uriel zavala garcia I'm an engineer also the CVT or as DAF branded it Variomatic drive is not CRAP ( a very engineering explanation there) The power band on smaller engines is limited, by having infinite gearing between low and high ratios the optimum drive force of the engine at its most effective increases the performance in terms of acceleration and can pull more weight plus give better fuel consumption. Belt drive is nothing new but the materials now available are so much better that variable drive is a viable alternative to the normal auto box which is an extremely inefficient device returning worse mileage on average than manual boxes variable belt drive returns better than manual mileage

[@INGZV]

***** CVT transmissions only make the engine work harder , yes, of course there is a slight or too little fuel savings , about 10% , but the CVT transmissions are crap , if not you just go to a dealer to Nissan , and there really all vehicles with CVT transmissions that do not work , you have to be an engineer to know that the transmission of force is better drag or push that carry over effects of friction, that's what a CVT , so they are sensitive to overheating , and any company , especially nissan , have managed to solve this problem, so it is best sequenced standard transmission or a dual clutch like the DSG VW , which also do better

[@ruthlessone3k]

The maxima proves you are wrong.

[@veva2703]

2013 Nissan Sentra CVT transmissions are a DISASTER, I bout my car in 12/2013, after 75k miles the transmission broke down dealer and manufacture refuse to honor any warranty, after several call to the manufacture their answer was that the 'expected life of the transmission is 60 K miles' this is a trash car, also problems with front air bags, rear strut and vary poor service in Nissan dealers the value after three year went down to 50% of what do I pay for this garbage and I still 36 month payment to go. Good luck! With NISSAN Sentra 2013 owners...

[@paullangford8179]

Try suing them on grounds of fitness for use. A car does not have a lifetime of 60 k miles, and the transmission should last as long as the car.

[@k.c.slawncare6046]

I've read some bad things, but the transmission in my '12 Versa is doing fine. 90,000km so far. We'll see how long it lasts.

[@shaunjay6040]

The gas mileage is a atrocious in my wife's altima.

[@MythicGuitarCompany]

I don't like the idea of it "learning" how i drive.... Granted the technology is much better than it was when that idea came out, the problem is, if you drive the majority of the time conservatively, it will learn to be conservative.... then when you DO drive like an idiot, you aren't getting the full potential of the car.. When the "learn how you drive" stuff started to become popular in BMW's, i had a friend who's car "learned" how he drove, and, decided to spin out and cause him to do a 360 in the middle of an intersection during a left turn on wet road, and smack into a truck in the oncoming lane. that was the first of several incidents i heard of. Granted, that was an 03. like i said, tech has gotten better, but... still.... if it were up to me, i'd take all of the driving computers out of cars and have a go-kart.

[@tubester4567]

Yea they should just have modes, like economy, normal, sport, and dam fool mode for when you want to have fun.

[@KMacFNP]

A belt driven transmission is a bad idea. That is supposed to be the strongest and most stable part of a vehicle. Just because these environmentalist nuts want to "decrease emissions" and save 6% on fuel, they sacrifice reliability and go for this junk.

[@garthfernandes]

I hand a 2013 Alitima with xtronic CVT. It is by far the worst car I've owned. The initial acceleration will wow you for approx 3 seconds and after that you will want to get out you car, find the largest hammer and beat it to death while simultaneously slitting your wrists. I curse myself for buying this stupid piece of junk. Can't wait to sell it a get back into a....................

[@Twisted86]

CVT - code for buy another car.

[@APSPROP]

CVT… car value Trasher these units are unreliable and costly to repair. There are the rubber belt type that stretch then the chain type that wears rapidly and then it too stretches…its like a wankle engine when it works its good when it wears it's worst than useless… warranty claim nightmare CVT…

[@aracecar4627]

APSPROP nissan uses a metal type band that's linked, you idiot not rubber or a chain....

[@eagle___empire3175]

Well its not rubber or a chain and it also does stretch because its a steel infused reverse pull directional belt. It doesnt get pulled it pushes. SMH

[@PhOeNiXpIoLe]

Conocimiento Evolución The Nissan service manual calls out for a CVT fluid change every 30,000 miles.

[@JohnS-il1dr]

@@eagle___empire3175regardless its still a shit transmission. traditional geared manual or automatic beats it hands down in longevity. dont believe me? look up cvt equipped cars on autotrader. None of them for sale have 180k or more vs regular transmissions.smh

[@eagle___empire3175]

@@JohnS-il1dr They dont have over 180K because they have bareley been around that long to get to that milage on SUV's "SMH" and nobody every said they were better dumbass

[@trapoza66]

I am not a troll ! I loved Nissans. Couldn't wait to trade in my Camry Solara and buy my shiny new 2015 Altima! ... WHAT A DISAPPOINTMENT!!! They are right. CVT vibrates, is noisy and my gas mileage just keeps getting worse. Now the Key Fobs are failing ! I just turned 50,000 miles. and I can't wait to get rid of this turd of a vehicle ! Nissan, you should be ashamed to promote this technology as smooth, quiet and fuel efficient. It is none of the above ... VERY disappointed... Poor design, noisy car that vibrates like mad on the highway at 2,000RPM. or about 75 mph ...

[@NoName-gv6nm]

Replace the exhaust hanger to get rid of vibration.

[@JohnS-il1dr]

@@NoName-gv6nm replace the car its french junk

[@frankworld13]

CVT transmission is still under developed and unreliable.

[@lesterbrown4061]

Lame

[@JohnS-il1dr]

what a stupid animation showing cvt being superior to traditional geared trans. the guy in red should be better because he has a downhill as opposed to the blue guy who constantly runs uphill. cvt should be banned as it was the worst invention for a vehicle ever, a big blunder

[@brewplanes7021]

Trash transmission.

[@murad1246]

Baaaaaaaad car🖕🖕🖕

[@muhammadfarooqi]

poooor presentation

[@sc2603]

Truthfully I think they should give up making these pieces of crap my 2014 Altima is on it’s 3rd one and now that the warranty is up that whole 12,000 miles they put on um .. it would cost more to replace the garbage than the car is worth ...How’s that for value