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SOLZ & SAGE

SOLZ & SAGE

Күн бұрын

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@SOLZandSAGE
@SOLZandSAGE 2 жыл бұрын
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@brandonlee1947
@brandonlee1947 2 жыл бұрын
26:25 Because you don't get to result you wanted does not mean you are not a superteam. A formula one car is still a supercar regardless if it wins or loses.
@cameronjohnson9361
@cameronjohnson9361 2 жыл бұрын
The 16 cavs are the same as the 84 Celtics they played a super team a bunch and only won once
@kingzay6144
@kingzay6144 2 жыл бұрын
Do they have a juice wrld concert on there I can’t find it
@drvw
@drvw 2 жыл бұрын
Y’all don’t bring this much energy to y’all’s podcast. Really gotta work on that communication seems like there’s a lot of underlying issues between y’all when the podcast is going on.
@RecapRico
@RecapRico 2 жыл бұрын
Bsolz dont remember but the blow back that KD got with the "easy titles, they gonna win every year" the heat def had the same rhetoric surrounding them. besides Lakers fans who were high on the 3 peat wave and boston fans the heat were the title favs easily according to popular opinion. no1 wouldve guessed 2011 was gnna happen and thats partly whats so damaging about Brons 2011 finals. people had them winning the title before christmas came lol
@ForeiignSir
@ForeiignSir 2 жыл бұрын
No way they put an ad over Jimmy's ad 😂
@stansanthosh552
@stansanthosh552 2 жыл бұрын
That was crazy
@pamoon_
@pamoon_ 2 жыл бұрын
how solz bout to powercreep seat geek with more seat geek
@SmartDonkeyJr
@SmartDonkeyJr 2 жыл бұрын
10/10 placement
@shawnmckenzie1885
@shawnmckenzie1885 2 жыл бұрын
I’m sayin solz said we cutting your shit out for ours😂
@ronaldomendoza7578
@ronaldomendoza7578 2 жыл бұрын
@@pamoon_ Seat geek 2 bro
@PygmaApril
@PygmaApril 2 жыл бұрын
When Harden went to the Nets he was considered a top 5 player. He was right after a season where he averaged 34/7/7 on 63% TS. An absolute superstar, no questions asked. So yeah, Durant, Harden, and Kyrie (just outside the top 10) is an absolute superteam.
@mixedpleasure4324
@mixedpleasure4324 2 жыл бұрын
Facts just because they failed they stilled where a superteam
@2357-l9p
@2357-l9p 2 жыл бұрын
@CH Thats cause superteams can fail , ans thats what happens, by definition its just having three definitive super stars at the time
@PygmaApril
@PygmaApril 2 жыл бұрын
@CH Harden was top 3 in MVP for a good part of the season when KD was down and Kyrie was being Kyrie. The only thing that made them fail was injuries (in the playoffs) and Kyrie's vaccination status. Their on-floor chemistry was great as a trio. The Lakers failed because they were injured, and Russ straight up sucked.
@Flat_top_king12
@Flat_top_king12 Жыл бұрын
@@2357-l9p russ is not a definitive superstar, neither is Kyrie tbh
@_SayitAintSo
@_SayitAintSo 4 ай бұрын
he averaged 24/8/10 before the trade too
@legendarywiimaster
@legendarywiimaster 2 жыл бұрын
Micheal Jorbum I’m dead😂😂😂 “Retired because no more plumbers to beat” 😂☠️☠️☠️☠️
@Flyc2
@Flyc2 2 жыл бұрын
😂😂😂😂😂
@legendarywiimaster
@legendarywiimaster Жыл бұрын
@@Flyc2 it gets better, someone said that if LeBron played in the 90s he would put up: 45 PPG, 15, APG, and 15 RPG and then they said if Jordan played today he would just be another good player who would put up 25, 7, and 5
@whenisdinner2137
@whenisdinner2137 Жыл бұрын
How was Isaiah Thomas not in his prime when he literally went to the finals?
@rainman3216
@rainman3216 2 жыл бұрын
The 1983 Sixers were the ultimate superteam. 65-17 in the regular season. 4-0 in the first round. 4-1 in the second round. 4-0 in the finals.
@tarunganesg9700
@tarunganesg9700 2 жыл бұрын
Probably one of the most dominating apart from the 2016-17 warriors
@Dragonds53
@Dragonds53 2 жыл бұрын
throwing in your own seatgeek ad while his was about to start was actually pretty fire I like that
@Grand_marquee
@Grand_marquee 2 жыл бұрын
The Jkidd disrespect when 03 was when he was fresh off two finals appearance and a top 3 mvp voting season is wild
@SomeGoodBroth
@SomeGoodBroth 2 жыл бұрын
I know damn well you wouldn’t take J Kidd over any of those 8 players from 2022
@Grand_marquee
@Grand_marquee 2 жыл бұрын
@@SomeGoodBroth 2003 Jason Kidd? Yes I would
@Grand_marquee
@Grand_marquee 2 жыл бұрын
@@SomeGoodBroth nets were dog shit winning 26 games Jkidd gets traded for Marbury and they win 52 the very next season
@SomeGoodBroth
@SomeGoodBroth 2 жыл бұрын
@@Grand_marquee who you putting him over?
@thewriter8762
@thewriter8762 2 жыл бұрын
A super team in my book is a time where you can legit say, “pack it up, the season is over”. I say it from the perspective that only a few teams had that kind of energy. I can’t say when the K Love and Kyrie cavs formed around Lebron that the cavs were just gonna steamroll to the chip. And I would say the Russ/AD/Lebron Lakers was a polarizing force. Some were saying it’s over, others like me thought it would ruin the Lakers. The thunder were more of a super team when Carmelo, PG, and Russ played together. Just my take.
@AnNguyen-br8xu
@AnNguyen-br8xu 2 жыл бұрын
the lakers with russ was a joke nobody actual thought they were going to do anything with AD declined westbrook empty stat and lebron getting older that was like cool but cute anyone that said they’re a super team is just plain hating and buying into skip baseless narrative
@AnNguyen-br8xu
@AnNguyen-br8xu 2 жыл бұрын
the only team at that time that was like oh shit, this is kinda scary is the nets. When they were blowing team out before injures it looked like one of those season
@LeafyPeach
@LeafyPeach Жыл бұрын
Like the bron Miami team, the warriors.
@daevonthesavage7483
@daevonthesavage7483 Жыл бұрын
​@@LeafyPeachthe Bron/Kyrie/Love Cavs actually did steamroll to the finals tho. All three years. Their best comp in the east was Toronto. *LeBronto* ...
@officialconch
@officialconch 2 жыл бұрын
Fun Facts: Of all players in NBA history to average 20ppg, here are the top 3 in 3P% 1. Steph Curry 2. KAT 3. Kyrie Irving So there’s that for his 2 weak rebuttals trashing KAT and Kyrie. (Curry’s shooting is not light years ahead of Kyrie and KAT definitely has a STRONG argument for greatest shooting Center)
@Valkross9
@Valkross9 Жыл бұрын
On the '88 Kareem, avg 15pts when teams be scoring 80pts/game is just about as good as averaging 30 when teams be scoring 120's and pace of play is emphasized.
@nightsnipernick7388
@nightsnipernick7388 Жыл бұрын
That's simply not true. 80pts-->120pts= 150% increase. So keep that up 15pts with a 150% is a 22.5pts. also that's saying that a player will score 15 points individually in the teams 80 points and then would score the same in the next 40 points. That just wouldn't be possible for the whole team for all players so you can't extrapolate like that.
@manz7860
@manz7860 Жыл бұрын
Big agree.
@Bigedub101
@Bigedub101 11 ай бұрын
​@@nightsnipernick7388actually in 1988 they averaged 109 a game. It was fast til like 1993 where starting slow down alot
@MrDerekf123
@MrDerekf123 2 жыл бұрын
how is 2 MVPs and 1 Superstar not a super team, Davis and Westbrook are better than Bosh and Davis and is arguably a better player than Wade, if the Heat are considered a super team how can the lakers not... what just because it didn't work out fuck outta here its a super team simple as.
@charlescooks9360
@charlescooks9360 2 жыл бұрын
Westbrook was overrated that simple
@MrDerekf123
@MrDerekf123 2 жыл бұрын
@@charlescooks9360 Excuse me how can you with a straight face call a MVP, possible future first ballot hall of famer "overrated" that's some stuff you're smoking over there may I have some
@mixedpleasure4324
@mixedpleasure4324 2 жыл бұрын
@@charlescooks9360 Yeah right
@donnyj5805
@donnyj5805 2 жыл бұрын
Ball Don’t Stop and Hoops Central are actually two of the smoothest brain dudes on Twitter
@angushaire3825
@angushaire3825 Жыл бұрын
in all fairness the bulls were not a superteam. rodman was not an all star with them and pippen as great as he was still was not up to par with teammates from other "superteams"
@ewanmcgregorofficial3641
@ewanmcgregorofficial3641 Жыл бұрын
To me a super team is 3-4 all star to superstar players and then some good ass role players and depth
@LiiftYourself
@LiiftYourself 2 жыл бұрын
a big 3 ≠ a superteam a superteam to me has always had 3 top 30 guys to lead an offense, plus a *great* secondary unit to round out the rest of the team. No matter how good the teams top 3 is, its not a super team if the rest of team isn’t good. thats why its so rare. a team like golden state had iggy, livingston, javale, draymond. celts had rondo and tony allen. heatles had battier, allen, mike miller
@greyklopstock7155
@greyklopstock7155 6 ай бұрын
To me, it should be obvious that today's top 30 players are better than the top 30s of years past simply because we pull from all over the world now. The NBA wasn't getting peak Arvydas Sabonis, didn't get Drazen Petrovic for long enough, had only just gotten Hakeem. We've got luka, Giannis, jokic, Embiid, Wemby, hell, even the up and coming guys like Kuminga!
@ajgreene5677
@ajgreene5677 2 жыл бұрын
What about 04 Lakers are they a super team. Karl Malone Gary Payton Kobe shaq? I think I’m more on solz side because I think they’re all super teams but some just fail (like the 04 lakers)
@jojan715
@jojan715 2 жыл бұрын
fuck no … Karl & Gary were old asf
@Smido83
@Smido83 Жыл бұрын
I dont get the whole Superteam conversation. Every team with 3+ multiple time Allstars (not only before they team up, also during their time) is a Superteam! And they have another thing in common. Those teams never form natuarally. They are either traded for, or signed in Free Agency. So yes, the 08 Celtics are a Superteam. The 2010 Heat are, the 2015 Cavs are... the 2021 and 2022 Lakers ARE NOT, cause Westbrook isnt even close to being an Allstar anymore. The current GSW are more then a Superteam, same as the Spurs or Bulls were... they are Dynasties. Cause the core stayed together for most of their careers. Same as the 80's Lakers or Celtics. Extremely great teams that won multiple Championships with the same core over a longer period of time. Why do people have such a problem understanding that difference?
@wills8878
@wills8878 2 жыл бұрын
Yall Trippin on that 2003 take 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣.... and Solz is right on the superteam intentions. They were perceived as such but had failed expectations
@Bigedub101
@Bigedub101 11 ай бұрын
Tmac and Iverson not on there, crazy
@thomasfrazier6465
@thomasfrazier6465 2 жыл бұрын
"Superteam Tob" is crazy!🤣🤣🤣
@jazzroyale7260
@jazzroyale7260 Жыл бұрын
I mean 2010 was the best collection of talent to me imo… LeBron James (top 2) Kobe Bryant (top 2) Tim Duncan (best PF all time) Kevin Durant (best young star under 25 at the time) Dwayne Wade (top 5 player) Dirk Nowitzki (best PF if Duncan wasn’t around) Chris Paul (best PG in nba) Dwight Howard (dpoy, multiple blocks leader, best C) Derrick Rose (youngest to win mvp) Carmelo Anthony (one of the great scorers) Too much talent.
@archibaldmeatpants7290
@archibaldmeatpants7290 Жыл бұрын
Love hearing people talk about Kyle Anderson. He grew up in my town and everyone said he was gonna go to the league. I stopped him from getting bullied once
@RTSPwnage
@RTSPwnage 2 жыл бұрын
No way you called him Imdavisss Bertans LMFAOOOOO
@twill4084
@twill4084 2 жыл бұрын
That 2003 part was fucking hilarious ☠️☠️ “AI”
@Kidkinsey
@Kidkinsey 2 жыл бұрын
Park players running 3s with nic Claxton is hilarious
@nakamiyonemura2001
@nakamiyonemura2001 2 жыл бұрын
Solz and sage if you guys have game footage of playing 2K together, that's free content we'd watch
@Emmathelady
@Emmathelady 10 ай бұрын
14:01 I would have easily added De'Aaron Fox and Sabonis
@shamelwilliams4289
@shamelwilliams4289 Жыл бұрын
Heat was a super team after that one game they abused the bulls.
@ThatkidSquid
@ThatkidSquid 2 жыл бұрын
KD, kyrie, James not a super team that's a hot take lord lol xD
@adityabaluni5548
@adityabaluni5548 2 жыл бұрын
Do not forget guys ,Currys offence is his defence🤓
@kendreviusclincy4377
@kendreviusclincy4377 2 жыл бұрын
Shaq not being in the top 8 in 96 is so laughable
@Nick-lg7er
@Nick-lg7er 2 жыл бұрын
The Chicago bulls team was never a super team
@comebackkid5976
@comebackkid5976 2 жыл бұрын
Solz in 1988 Isiah was 27
@mixedpleasure4324
@mixedpleasure4324 2 жыл бұрын
LMAo exactly dont say nothing if you dont know what you talking about lol
@samuelg1172
@samuelg1172 Жыл бұрын
KD/Kyrie/Harden Nets we’re a super team, without a doubt
@gohanblack3355
@gohanblack3355 22 күн бұрын
70s we’re stacked he’s tripping
@kyrakyle992
@kyrakyle992 Жыл бұрын
Wait. How is Kawhi on a top 8 players list for 2022? He played as many NBA games as I did that year. Zero.
@j.pow-well9578
@j.pow-well9578 2 жыл бұрын
Y’all don’t know what a super team is a super team is hype from the beginning of a season not “since they didn’t win they aren’t a super team”
@richcantgame
@richcantgame 2 жыл бұрын
Lonzo Ball is Steph Curry with a 40 vertical 😂 Realizing Curry has a 36 inch vert makes that take even worse
@dylhead4555
@dylhead4555 Жыл бұрын
Steph with a 40 inch vert is Lonzo... what are we talking about?
@kendallgreen6832
@kendallgreen6832 Жыл бұрын
5:18 even though the take about Lonzo Ball was ridiculous if Steph had a 40 inch vert it wouldn’t have even applied
@yngtonymontana8734
@yngtonymontana8734 2 жыл бұрын
Having a big three isn’t a super team
@Jackson-ec9py
@Jackson-ec9py 2 жыл бұрын
Just cause a super team didn’t pan out doesn’t mean it’s not a super team. When 3 all star level players combine in one off season, that’s a super team. Or atleast it’s supposed to be
@alohatigers1199
@alohatigers1199 2 жыл бұрын
Because it’s not. They FAILED for a reason. If a superteam failed, then they are not. It’s pretty self explanatory. You just EXPECTED them to succeed to make your argument more valid.
@Jackson-ec9py
@Jackson-ec9py 2 жыл бұрын
@@alohatigers1199 a super team is how a team is built. A dynasty or championship team is how a team performs.
@Jackson-ec9py
@Jackson-ec9py 2 жыл бұрын
@@alohatigers1199 attempted superteam is still a superteam they just ass ex the lakers
@Jackson-ec9py
@Jackson-ec9py 2 жыл бұрын
@@alohatigers1199 but I get what you’re saying it’s really just what you think a superteam is
@ogfirewizard
@ogfirewizard 2 жыл бұрын
I’ll be honest…Ben Simmons with a jump shot would be a complete player with no drive to win frfr
@josephhanicak7922
@josephhanicak7922 2 жыл бұрын
Giannis over Hakeem is just wrong. Giannis is undoubtedly a future all-time great, but he's only 27. Giannis's resume is superb for a 27 year old, but it's not better than Hakeem's. As amazing as Giannis is, he's not a better player than Hakeem either. Hakeem is one of the great defenders of all time while simultaneously being the most skilled post-up scorer in NBA history. The best footwork of any big man ever paired with immense technical skill and dominating physicality.
@isaacdebeila8085
@isaacdebeila8085 2 жыл бұрын
the issue with these stats guys are that they dont add context.... stats without context is a lie man, they need to do better, you cant rank guys who were teams best player vs guys who were just role players...
@craigjohnston5781
@craigjohnston5781 Жыл бұрын
Wow there is a lot of inaccurate stuff said by Solz and Sage but saying that '88 Isiah Thomas wasn't in his prime is straight up ignorance. Lol
@mrp4730
@mrp4730 2 жыл бұрын
That kareem vs Embid is based on overall career not on one season
@leosardar7191
@leosardar7191 2 жыл бұрын
BRUH THE CAVS WAS A SUPER TEAM DID U SEE HOW EASY THEY WENT TO THE FINALS! No other team in the EAST had A chance
@nate8655
@nate8655 2 жыл бұрын
I agree with sage about the super team shit but I only think there was 3 warriors 60s Celtics and bulls
@IGoatGrandpa
@IGoatGrandpa 9 ай бұрын
bro my friend said he is not a LeBron hater, yet he has him 6th all time behind Magic Johnson, Lebron is 2nd all time
@glenzeray
@glenzeray 2 жыл бұрын
Peak Kidd was a top mvp candidate just like embid
@edog4153
@edog4153 2 жыл бұрын
look here's my take. 90 Bulls, 80s Celtics and Lakers aren't Superteam. Dynasties yes, but not superteams
@timjacobs2487
@timjacobs2487 2 жыл бұрын
Been saying that about MJ and I’m an MJ fan!!! The most protected athlete in history
@KGJuice
@KGJuice 2 жыл бұрын
NBA top 30 30 GoGurt 29 CP3 28 BAM 27 KAT 26 Anthony Edwards 25 Donovon Mitchell 24 Zach Lavine 23 Bradley Beal 22 Jaylen Brown 21 Demar Derozan 20 Brandon Ingram 19 Zion Williamson? 18Anthony Davis 17 James harden 16 Trae Young 15 Kyrie Irving 14 Paul George 13 Jimmy Butler 12 Devin Booker 11 Dame 10 Jason Tatum 9 Ja Morant 8 Kawhi Leonard 7 Kevin Durant 6 Luka Doncic 5 Joel Embiid 4 Nikola Jokic 3 Lebron James 2 Stephen Curry 1 Giannis
@rileydotson956
@rileydotson956 2 жыл бұрын
Curry singlehandedly makes a super team cause his offense IS HIS DEFENSE...
@bryanfoster326
@bryanfoster326 2 жыл бұрын
15:50 - y’all said it, I’ve always thought he was mad overrated cause of the cultural impact, but people get too in their feelings about him
@jamesmacker
@jamesmacker 2 жыл бұрын
Is this a reupload? Why do I feel like I've seen this?
@BIG_Z19905
@BIG_Z19905 Жыл бұрын
Results based thinking doesn’t work 90% of the time especially in the situation a super team is decided by the expectations that’s why to me teams like the 04 lakers 2022 laker and 2012 lakers even though those teams sucked the were super teams just like the 2022 nets were supposed to be if you are not just the favorite to win but expected to win to me that’s a super team ie 2010 heat party where they predicted 7 rings
@RealCGH
@RealCGH 2 жыл бұрын
14:00 don't forget Harden as well, he's a little bit washed now. But the dude is def a top 5 sg ever
@josephlain283
@josephlain283 2 жыл бұрын
shoutout mike korzemba
@manz7860
@manz7860 Жыл бұрын
Kyle Korver is the personification of mid.
@AR-en6qx
@AR-en6qx 2 жыл бұрын
Cavs not a superteam? Have the best player in the league in lebron, 1 borderline sueprstar in kyrie, 1 allstar in klove and a load of good vet role players like korver, r jeff, shump, jr smith not to mention beside warriors they are the only other team that have 3 or more allstar player. If that is not a super team idk what is. Just because they lose to warriors doesnt mean they not built as a super team. That 2017 cavs is loaded. Just like the gsw they also steamroll the east at that time. U guys buggin.
@mixedpleasure4324
@mixedpleasure4324 2 жыл бұрын
Luka over Magic, Jokic over Moses Malone, Giannis over Hakeem LMAO this got to be some of the worst crap ever said on the internet... Moses was a 3 time mvp and 1 fmvp properly the greatest offensive rebounder ever 6 time rebounding champ. And Luka who hasnt done anything over Magic a top 5-7 greatest player ever. Giannis could suppasse Hakeem over time but as of now give me Hakeem and Mj in 1988 was DPOY MVP Scoring scamp first team defense steals champ and all star mvp and he average 35 6 6 with 3.2 steals shooting 54% FG I could understand Kareem if we only look at the year 88 but it looked like you did that for some and for some others you just took who you believed was the better player overall so give me Kareem over Embiid and as of right now Kawhi hasnt done enough to suppasse Karl Malone he needs to play a little more even though he is my current favorite player he hasnt done enough to be higher ranked then Karl.
@MisterVicky9
@MisterVicky9 2 жыл бұрын
The worst take ever is claiming Russell Westbrook ISNT averaging a triple double tbh
@TrueSunGod101
@TrueSunGod101 2 жыл бұрын
Nah the worst take is this statement doesn't affect LeBron's legacy
@ImStillLandy
@ImStillLandy 2 жыл бұрын
Nahhh the worst statement is saying that steph curry's offense isn't his defense
@TrueSunGod101
@TrueSunGod101 2 жыл бұрын
@@ImStillLandy but Robert Horry Has 7 rings tho
@edppoopsock168
@edppoopsock168 2 жыл бұрын
Nah the worst take is russell westbrooks defense isn’t his triple double
@LetMeEatDem
@LetMeEatDem 2 жыл бұрын
@@edppoopsock168 I think you meant to say westbrooks triple is his double.
@UncleJrueForTue
@UncleJrueForTue 2 жыл бұрын
Isiah Thomas won a championship in 1988-89 as the number 1 option. If that's not in your prime idk what is.
@phillipbell4394
@phillipbell4394 2 жыл бұрын
A superteam is that "I don't want to play anymore" energy and emotion you have when the kid you're playing pickup with in 4th grade brings his older brother from community college to absolutely destroy you. Granted, I'm 20, but I've only felt that way once.
@siredrediii7015
@siredrediii7015 2 жыл бұрын
That’s how I felt when I played against my dad and dude kept going into the post
@odizza1688
@odizza1688 2 жыл бұрын
"EMOTIONAL DAMAGE" 🤣🤣🤣🤣
@talkativemonkey6802
@talkativemonkey6802 2 жыл бұрын
That’s why the only recent super team was golden state when they got KD
@Synical02
@Synical02 Жыл бұрын
Would people ever consider the spurs a super team ????
@warriorgrl3076
@warriorgrl3076 Жыл бұрын
aww, you in your feelings cuz of a decision from another Grown Man?? 😭 shut up lmao. this exactly why the WNBA community is better than the NBA community. they're overall better human beings, and don't pull this childish, immature bs 💀
@sergioroman2988
@sergioroman2988 2 жыл бұрын
Saying K Love was a fringe all star when he first joined the Cavs is crazy. He was a perennial all star borderline superstar on the wolves so that take is revisionist as hell
@Millennium00
@Millennium00 2 жыл бұрын
It’s not revisionist if we saw how it played out. KLove was just putting up empty stats on a bad team but got to a real contender and wasn’t nearly as impactful as his TWolvez days the Cavs didn’t need him to get to the Finals and win 2 games in 2015 and he didn’t even average 15PPG in the 2016 playoffs and 2018 didn’t average 15PPG what was super about Cavs outside Lebron and Kyrie?
@kdubbss0583
@kdubbss0583 2 жыл бұрын
@@Millennium00 are we not accounting his role within the offense? KLove was truly a third wheel w/ LeBron and Kyrie, like Bosh was in Miami. His role significantly changed because of the players he was playing with. Also injuries and age have caught with him as well.
@Millennium00
@Millennium00 2 жыл бұрын
@@kdubbss0583 proving my point even more that the Cavs were not a super team
@kdubbss0583
@kdubbss0583 2 жыл бұрын
@@Millennium00 I’m not necessarily arguing the cavs were a super team, more so arguing for Love being the all star people seemingly forgot he was. The original comment of the thread is correct in regards to who Love was before he got traded, because if he was just an average player, the Cavs would have never traded for him.
@saveyabreath680
@saveyabreath680 2 жыл бұрын
@@Millennium00 that’s literally revising history
@cookingwitchefzayy8830
@cookingwitchefzayy8830 2 жыл бұрын
These might be the worst takes of all time but did you know Carmelo Anthony screamed out "#$% outta here I got it" when he grabbed a rebound?
@dariuswilliams3206
@dariuswilliams3206 2 жыл бұрын
Wait, did y’all replace Jimmy’s seat geek ad with your seat geek ad?
@MonteYRM
@MonteYRM 2 жыл бұрын
Cutting out his promotion for your own promotion is crazy 🤣
@unc54
@unc54 2 жыл бұрын
For real. I thought SOLZ was about to talk about something else but nah he did the exact same ad read.
@AceTheCap823
@AceTheCap823 2 жыл бұрын
Isaiah was definitely in his prime in 1988 but yea 1988 is a good argument. 1996, nah 4/8-5/8 names make sense but the others no there is a huge drop. 2003, 6/8 are legit but but there’s a drop off with AI and it falls off a cliff with Kidd lmao. 1988 is a good example tho. I prolly still give it to 2022 tho tbh if we talkin overall Also heat and maybe 2017 cavs are lebron’s only superteams
@paquinraino8180
@paquinraino8180 2 жыл бұрын
Especially that there are some history revisionism, Dirk, Tmac and Garnett in 2003 don't have that much accomplishment yet, just like Luka and Embiid actually. In the future the 2022 could look even better than it is today, just let Luka, Jokic, Embiid and Giannis showing their prime to everyone and the discussion changed ( because yes half of the 2022 top 8 is not in their prime or will be next season). KAJ in 88 is a joke tho, man is 42 yo
@user-pf6wl4hv5j
@user-pf6wl4hv5j Жыл бұрын
@@paquinraino8180 the pussies in today’s league are afraid of getting champagne in the eyes 🤣….they get softer every year not to mention that most of the stars today can’t even go 3 possessions without blatantly traveling
@forbesdt
@forbesdt 2 жыл бұрын
Love these Long Disect reaction videos. Great to listen to on Car Rides home from work.
@clanwaddell5628
@clanwaddell5628 2 жыл бұрын
Facts
@robcondones
@robcondones 2 жыл бұрын
Great video and all but how does this affect Temetrius Jamel Morant's griddy??🤔🤔
@LetMeEatDem
@LetMeEatDem 2 жыл бұрын
Justin Jefferson better
@kindleyfernand4389
@kindleyfernand4389 2 жыл бұрын
You got the whole name.🤣🤣🤣
@tyreek.6815
@tyreek.6815 2 жыл бұрын
@@LetMeEatDem w
@ItWillBeSteve
@ItWillBeSteve 2 жыл бұрын
Solz that Giannis over Hakeem take is the worst thing you've ever said 🤣
@DgSezn
@DgSezn 2 жыл бұрын
That’s literally 1988 Hakeem not when he was at his peak in 94 and 95
@yvans.
@yvans. 2 жыл бұрын
@@DgSezn to be fair Giannis has a way better team than Dream. Olajuwon best teammates in 88 was sleepy Floyd… Pretty sure you never heard of him
@azmayeenzchowdhury8484
@azmayeenzchowdhury8484 2 жыл бұрын
@@yvans. We're talking about Giannis individually. And right now, he's definitely better than 1988 Hakeem.
@SomeGoodBroth
@SomeGoodBroth 2 жыл бұрын
Shit I would
@justnahayo8490
@justnahayo8490 2 жыл бұрын
2022 Giannis over 1988 Hakeem any day lol
@TheMissiIe
@TheMissiIe 2 жыл бұрын
Hot take: Hakeem was more dominant on both ends than Shaq
@lethalmamba2527
@lethalmamba2527 2 жыл бұрын
NAHHHH BRUH NAHHH jk I respect your opinion
@ILOV3BUTT3R
@ILOV3BUTT3R 2 жыл бұрын
You know, it ain't that hot of a take. I don't know if I'd push it, but it ain't unfounded.
@TheMissiIe
@TheMissiIe 2 жыл бұрын
@@ILOV3BUTT3R I would agree, but the general consensus is Shaq is the most dominant player ever, so if someone says he isn't that's going against what 99.99% of basketball fans think
@darnellwilliams8783
@darnellwilliams8783 2 жыл бұрын
Daniel Ricciardo Facts and Hakeem Olajuwon was more skilled and talented than Shaq be as Hakeem had a Fadeaway jumpshot that was his love and Sjaq relied on his Athleticism until it went away because he didn't maintain it and was constantly out of shape Shaq is overrated and was one dimensional at best
@NewwxNeww
@NewwxNeww 2 жыл бұрын
Tbh that’s not even a bad take, thats a good convo imo.
@meatwad42069
@meatwad42069 Жыл бұрын
man i’m tired of hearing how the cavs weren’t a super team when they traded one of the most hyped FIRST OVERALL PICKS of the last couple decades for a mf that averaged 26 and 12 to become the THIRD OPTION with lebron and kyrie ☠️☠️☠️
@afro2674
@afro2674 5 ай бұрын
how old was kyrie is my first question. My second question is how many 5 point and under games do you think kevin love dropped in the finals
@weebtrash3376
@weebtrash3376 5 ай бұрын
@@afro2674it doesn’t matter how old Kyrie was and how KL underperformed in the finals, the consensus was already that you had Lebron and a great iso scorer and then you’re adding a great rebounding that could score. It’s trying to rewrite history to fit a narrative
@napiernygma8075
@napiernygma8075 2 жыл бұрын
to be fair it all depends on how you define a super team ;1) is a super team is all about just results or 2) is a super team all about the super stars without the results or 3) is it both ? the 1st maybe 15 teams that got super results historically 2nd maybe around 6 or 7 3rd maybe 2 or 3 at best
@jacobtrimble4329
@jacobtrimble4329 2 жыл бұрын
The 2020 Lakers are definitely not a superteam.
@jahmairtrott4635
@jahmairtrott4635 2 жыл бұрын
Consistent results plus superstars for me is what I'd call a super team. I think nowadays people throw the super team term around a lil too loosely and prematurely. When the lakers traded for Russell, people were calling them a super team but 12 months later that ain't the case. Same with the nets, people called them a super team in 2021 but now people don't even bring up the 2021 nets as a super team
@endk.3500
@endk.3500 2 жыл бұрын
It’s a mix between success and names, it’s the reason the Heat and Warriors are super teams but 2022 Lakers and 2021 Nets are not
@paquinraino8180
@paquinraino8180 2 жыл бұрын
@@endk.3500 They just sucked, failed superteams attempts happen too
@endk.3500
@endk.3500 2 жыл бұрын
@@paquinraino8180 which makes them not super teams
@ImHighRN
@ImHighRN 2 жыл бұрын
Cleveland was most definitely a super team.
@AK_777
@AK_777 2 жыл бұрын
The bulls were not a super team Tf
@KevonDaDon
@KevonDaDon 2 жыл бұрын
Depending on which ones 72-10 was a superteam
@hammaadhhussain6478
@hammaadhhussain6478 2 жыл бұрын
That kat argument really died when they saw my man attempted less 3s than bertans 😂😂
@kiddtiko
@kiddtiko 2 жыл бұрын
not really though, kat still requires more defensive attention and takes more difficult shots than bertans
@ethanbaileylol2283
@ethanbaileylol2283 2 жыл бұрын
But that’s because it’s all Bertans does. He’s a 3pt shooter, he ain’t even 3&D. Kat attempts shots from all over the floor
@karma1351
@karma1351 2 жыл бұрын
@@ethanbaileylol2283 making Bertans the better shooter. The argument wasn’t that Kat does more, the argument was that Kat was the better shooter, which statistically he isn’t
@BKNPhenom
@BKNPhenom 2 жыл бұрын
@@karma1351Bertans only attempted more threes for one season. KAT has consistently higher volumes, efficiency, and degree of difficulty
@hammaadhhussain6478
@hammaadhhussain6478 2 жыл бұрын
Volume and difficulty and all that stuff is good but on pure stats bertans has been better. At some point i think kat has to simplify his shooting to solidify himself or someone in the future may come along.
@saveyabreath680
@saveyabreath680 2 жыл бұрын
Lebron teams up with 2 all stars: Wow this is a super team we’re definitely winning the chip. 5 years later: Lebron hasn’t played for a super team
@Nolant23
@Nolant23 2 жыл бұрын
isiah thomas definitely was in his prime, he literally went on to win back to back championships after 88.
@Abbad1579
@Abbad1579 2 жыл бұрын
You mean the pistons went on to win the championships. The bad boy pistons are one of the most balanced teams ever. Zeke was not carrying them
@QDibieYT
@QDibieYT Жыл бұрын
The revisionist history was crazy for the Superteam segment
@georgeprchal3924
@georgeprchal3924 2 жыл бұрын
Pretty sure most of the media and the public in general didn't even consider the Lakers the best team in LA at the start of the '20 season, let alone a Super Team.
@Kai-Soh
@Kai-Soh 2 жыл бұрын
Crazy how y'all didn't mention primes when talking about the '03 cats but it's the first thing y'all mention about' 88. Using certain criteria to fit your take, heh? Solz was more logical and consistent before messing with Sage, smdh.
@chrischen5048
@chrischen5048 Жыл бұрын
The funny thing is, in the 90's when Rodman joined the Bulls, nobody thought it would be a super team. With Pippen and Jordan getting old, adding a Rodman who was a bust on SA, people genuinely believed they were washed. The entire idea that the 96 Bulls are a superteam is some serious contermporary revisionist bs. I mean, I won't deny they became a superteam, but nobody was going "oh shit, the NBA was doomed in 96."
@camctrail
@camctrail 2 жыл бұрын
Nah the Tobias Harris disrespect has been crazy. He may be overpaid as shit but the guy is still a damn good player, over the last 5 years he's averaged 19-7-3 on 48 FG% and 39 3PT%. I remember how close he was to making the all star team in 2019 when he was helping lead that overachieving Clippers squad. As a 3rd option, he's a damn good player.
@justaordinarycanadianfello360
@justaordinarycanadianfello360 2 жыл бұрын
I think the hate is coming from letting jimmy butler go for Tobias Harris.
@richcantgame
@richcantgame 2 жыл бұрын
Fr, I didn't hear a peep when Jimi said Trez Harrel as a fringe all star but they couldn't get over Tobias?
@manz7860
@manz7860 Жыл бұрын
Lmfao. Yall wasted Embiids career with trash
@spaceman4653
@spaceman4653 Жыл бұрын
So yall saying Bron, Kyrie and Love weren't a super team? Yea aight smh
@MrWill994
@MrWill994 Жыл бұрын
Nah bro this moving the goalpost on what a superteam is is fucking crazy 😂😂
@chinkyflahz
@chinkyflahz Жыл бұрын
i mean kevin love avg'd 26 and 12 on the wolves before goin to the cavs, he just had to take a step back to fit like bosh did
@koster_2k
@koster_2k 2 жыл бұрын
saying luka is better than magic johnson is crazy
@mixedpleasure4324
@mixedpleasure4324 2 жыл бұрын
Facts
@TheBlvckIversonnn
@TheBlvckIversonnn Жыл бұрын
Keeping it a Bean Iverson being on the 2003 list along with T-Mac is not bad. Seriously only thing people say about Iverson is that he had horrible FG% which I agree but him in the early 2000’s was a 4 or 5 time scoring champion. It’s not because of the cultural impact for me but he was putting up big numbers. Yeah shooting low percentage because of him being the only scoring option, plus taking mad difficult shots was gonna put him in bad FG% but him and T MAC without a doubt belong on this list. I need more context to see why not.
@vladila9493
@vladila9493 2 жыл бұрын
What about curry's offense BEING his defense
@sorryidgaf.6043
@sorryidgaf.6043 2 жыл бұрын
Peja 6’10 though ?
@ChuckyBeingChucky
@ChuckyBeingChucky 2 жыл бұрын
He played SF most of his career
@sorryidgaf.6043
@sorryidgaf.6043 2 жыл бұрын
@@ChuckyBeingChucky so that magically removes his height and doesn’t make him big?
@ChuckyBeingChucky
@ChuckyBeingChucky 2 жыл бұрын
@@sorryidgaf.6043 Yep
@actioninmyphannypack
@actioninmyphannypack 2 жыл бұрын
IMO, you can’t call a team a superteam before they play. A superteam to me is a team that is head and shoulders above every other team.
@jetsettech8804
@jetsettech8804 2 жыл бұрын
Nah. A super team is a team with at least 3 players that are top 3-5 at their positions.
@jahmairtrott4635
@jahmairtrott4635 2 жыл бұрын
@@jetsettech8804 but if they don't get the job done were they really "super"? Can't really be a super team with the results of an average team but that's just my opinion
@jetsettech8804
@jetsettech8804 2 жыл бұрын
@@jahmairtrott4635 yes it still counts.
@actioninmyphannypack
@actioninmyphannypack 2 жыл бұрын
@@jetsettech8804 So the 73-9 warriors weren’t a superteam?
@jetsettech8804
@jetsettech8804 2 жыл бұрын
@@actioninmyphannypack no they weren't
@vintagemonte
@vintagemonte 2 жыл бұрын
2016 Cavs is a superteam .
@jacobtrimble4329
@jacobtrimble4329 2 жыл бұрын
Nah 2017
@IllMatic97
@IllMatic97 2 жыл бұрын
No they're not
@ChuckyBeingChucky
@ChuckyBeingChucky 2 жыл бұрын
No
@officialTaeJ
@officialTaeJ Жыл бұрын
@@jacobtrimble4329no💀
@officialTaeJ
@officialTaeJ Жыл бұрын
Delusional 💀
@Librascales10
@Librascales10 2 жыл бұрын
YEAAAAAA THIS IS ANOTHER EXAMPLE OF THE ASIAN AND BLACK GUY NOT KNOWING ANYTHING ABOUT BASKETBALL LMAOOOOO
@mixedpleasure4324
@mixedpleasure4324 2 жыл бұрын
Facts
@builderdog3875
@builderdog3875 Жыл бұрын
23:48 Paul George is better than Kawhi Leonard All time, and on the Clippers
@p00rguy9
@p00rguy9 Жыл бұрын
To fix the 1988 top 8 thing I would put either Dumars or moncrief or maybe Drexler to replace Kareem and then Dominique to replace Moses.
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