Yahusha or Yehoshua? How do we know?

[@pauledmonds7316]

Thank SO much; I have battled for ages with folk who have Insisted on the pronounciation 'yahusha', telling them that the people they've been listening to are ignorant of the Hebrew language and have No idea what they're talking about. I'm the first to admit that I can't speak Hebrew but I know enough to see that they were wrong. This is the first video of yours that I have seen and was actually sent to me by a friend who had been taken in by these ignorant people and had insisted on using 'Yahusha', so fair play to him. Again, thank you and Shalom.... subscribed 😊

[@pauledmonds7316]

Rob, would you be able to do a video dealing with 'Yahuah' or 'Yahuwah' being used as the name of the Father? It seems that the same people who insist on using 'Yahusha' also insist on 'Yahuah/Yahuwah' as the 'correct' pronounciation of YHVH. I've scanned through your video titles and can't see one on the subject. Cheers Shalom

[@jamiecarter4993]

@@pauledmonds7316 you haven't got to the right one

[@JesusSilva-di9lj]

Paul, in the Name 'YAHUAH' there is only one Uau/Waw

[@jamiecarter4993]

@@pauledmonds7316Yahusha is the true name.everybody is stupid.

[@KevinM-hz9jb]

The Cepher publishing and their friend Lew White have done much damage

[@krustysurfer]

I have heard that rabbis say the Yeh sound is not a good sound, where Yah is the blessed sound... that the Yeh sound is a curse like spitting? Can you clarify?

[@pablosetien5548]

Then hide the Creator name YAH

[@xrpeewee9320]

It should be Yah in both the son and father name because the first three letters are the same yet they say yeh instead of Yah for the son.

[@krustysurfer]

@@xrpeewee9320 yeh is a curse word to them, its a trick to trip up the unsuspecting goi to run around saying Gods name wrong...... Im sure God knows a persons heart and forgives his name being mispronounced because of subterfuge and games..... The joke is on the foolish rabbi and orthodoxy who proclaim to be closer to God when they are the blind leading the blind... God bless Timothy

[@krustysurfer]

@@pablosetien5548 absolutely! The joke is on them for making a trap for unsuspecting sincere seekers.

[@marcins.7445]

@@xrpeewee9320 That makes perfect sense. Honestly, people have argued this over and over and there's so many different variations and opinions on how to pronounce the names, with everyone being absolutely convinced that their version is right... But simple common sense says that Messiah's name must start with "Yah". Zero knowledge of Hebrew is needed, just a love of the Creator.

[@wilsonbalmori977]

When you pray in His name, Yehoshua, do you need to end a prayer with "amen"?

[@Maria-nh9jz]

I heard from yanuthuan truth is AMIEN. Amēn

[@seanjordan4420]

Thank you for sharing!! Just found your channel and Messiah Matters. Very helpful to me as a new believer, digging into the Jewish roots of Christianity. Where did you learn Hebrew? And what would you recommend to someone beginning to learn? Thanks!

[@ontherock]

Hi Sean, thanks for the note/question. I did a BA in Hebrew Bible at a university... but you can take Hebrew at TorahResource Institute in an online format. One class starts this next week in fact. www.torahresourceinstitute.com/?redirect=0

[@seanjordan4420]

@@ontherock Awesome, thank you Rob. I'd like to check out the course but I can't see the information without logging in/ I don't see where I can sign up..

[@ontherock]

@@seanjordan4420 Oops, sorry... please try this link instead: torahresource.com/product-category/spring-quarter-torahresource-institute/

[@brittyluvzruben]

This is been an issue for me in mini conversations kind of a point of contention and a brick wall that I hit because I’ve heard “Yeshua” “Yehoshua” “Yahusha” “Yeshoshua” & that if I say Jesus I’m worshiping or giving praise to the Zeus … it gets so messy out here in the KZbin comments & videos where plp attack attack attack because someone is literally just trying to learn the true pronunciation, because when I am praying and speaking to my Lord and Savior, I want to say his name correctly, to give glory honor & respect .. so thank you for being so kind as to explain it in a clear respectful manner & not making me feel ashamed or stupid for asking … I’m trying to learn & grow closer in my relationship with our creator Lord savior and honestly, I’m having to kind of re-teach myself everything because I started studying & looking into many of the actual Hebrew Aramaic in Greek translations, I realized so many inaccuracies, and falsehoods that I and I’m sure many others were indoctrinated with growing up. I’m not sure about other people, but in my childhood and family, you just did not ask questions especially as a child You did not ask questions you absolutely did not question the word of God, that me questioning anything the adults were telling you the information you was told was was IT END OF DISCUSSION … we were told if we HAD a question that it was not meant for us to know if we didn’t understand it, it was not meant for us to understand that’s how God need for it to be, but is asking me to study myself I have seen where it says something to the extent of to seek & read the word to show yourself approved & worthy & how can you do that if you’re unable to ask questions if you don’t understand something so.. so I’m really starting from the ground up & I’ve learned how to say the Hebrew alphabet & I can identify some of letters when I see them it’s a slow process but I’m not giving up .. I’m 38 years old been married 16 years to an amazing kind, honest, loyal, hard-working man, who came from a basic Catholic background not too much reading the Bible, just taken the words of whatever the adults said, and never questioning it further, and we were blessed with 4 four beautiful children, three girls 2 my husband and I share, and I have a stepdaughter that was born before we were married, and we have a son together the girls are between the ages of 18 and 22 and our son is 16 play 9 machine to say that we’ve never really had a church home. We’ve visited many different churches from Jehovah’s Witness, LDS, non-denominational & Baptist and I have never found anyof those churches that made us feel happy to attend to have fellowship & feel like we were in connection with God.. so I decided after all of the horrific experiences in these churches, that I would just seek God in the solitude of my home and went online to a point where I feel comfortable maybe we can look for a place that fits us.. it’s quiet hard in this small southern town where we live to feel acceptance my husband is from Mexico. I am Caucasian and everyone in this town pretty much grew up here and there’s not a lot of diversity and it’s a shame to say this but people here or set in their ways they can be very close minded, not very inviting they can be very crude crass, make you feel ostracize and feel unwelcome very quickly…

[@ontherock]

Thanks for sharing... there's nothing wrong with saying "Jesus" because that's how His name came to be transliterated into English. It does NOT mean hail Zeus or any of that other junk people are ignorantly (or at times maliciously) spewing. We can be confident in the name "Yeshua" as accurate as well, from actual historical sources. Keep seeking God through prayer, fellowship, and learning His Word. "Look to Him is all your ways" (Beware of false scholars and teachers on the internet)

[@TheSibler]

@@ontherock Dear heavenly FATHER please LORD take good care for Rob and all his beloved ones , YOU are the best for all you do , YOU are truly the living LORD GOD allmighty for all that YOU can do , in JESUS name i pray amen Rob thank you for doing the work of THE LORD

[@ontherock]

@@TheSibler I receive that! Your words are very kind and encouraging. Halleluyah!

[@dewegnaargod4917]

Can you make a video about the pronunciation of the Name ‎𐤉𐤄𐤅𐤄 / יהוה

[@ontherock]

Thank you, I have had many requests for that.

[@zulemarivera9623]

@@ontherockdid you ever make one?

[@ontherock]

@@zulemarivera9623 I don't remember... I've made 300+ videos on this channel, you'd have to scroll through

[@TheGamewarden777]

So Messiah's name is same as Joshua's name their the same name???

[@ontherock]

Yes. If you look at Acts 7:45 and Hebrews 4:8, it's the same name, but referring to a different person (Yeshua bin Nun). Also, there is a Yeshua listed in Luke 3:29. The Greek spelling is simply a transliteration of the Aramaic.

[@vm1552]

Where is the stress in Yehoshua? In 5:57 you said Ye-HO-shua. Isn't it Ye-ho-SHU-A? Thanks for the video.

[@ontherock]

Yes, you are correct. My mistake, probably by bad habit of how it's often pronounced. Thank you

[@isaiah53praisetotheallmigh32]

Dear Rob, thank you for this video! How would the ע be pronounced with the "line" under it?

[@ontherock]

The horizontal line is a vowel marker called a "patach," I pronounce it in the video

[@allexxdaniel9120]

You kept reading passages with Joshua's name, so this is Joshua's name translation? I thought that was the translation for the Messiah.

[@DanielLovelace]

Hey, Alex! Good question. I understand that our English Bible translations make a differentiation between Jesus and Joshua, especially to differentiate between the two people, yet when you look at the original words translated from the original Hebrew, Aramaic, and Greek, the name translated as Jesus is actually the same as the name translated as Joshua. The name is Yeshua, also written/pronounced as Yehoshua. We see this clearly in Hebrews 4:8 & 4:14, one verse referring to Joshua of the Old Testament, one referring to Jesus the Messiah, but both when we look at the Greek interlinear, are the same name. Similarly how our New Testament refers to some ladies as Mary, when the Hebrew name I understand would be Miriam/Miryam. Or how Danielle is technically the same name as Daniel, just different spelling, and often used for female/male, yet they carry the same meaning. On that note, Yeshua (thus also Jesus and Joshua) means “Yahweh Saves,” or “Yahweh is Salvation” as well. This fits with Matt. 1:21. You may understand some or most of this already, but I hope this helps all the same! Blessings in Jesus to you, Alex! :)

[@mufasah7]

Rob, can you tell me where the paleo Hebrew is from (the source) so I can view it?

[@ontherock]

All Dead Sea manuscript images are available online for free here: www.deadseascrolls.org.il/home

[@veganix6757]

6:57 what does on solid rock mean. Does it mean it’s fine or it’s wrong

[@James41892]

On solid rock...its right.

[@claudiumateistudiubiblic]

How did you get Ye when for both name Yahuah and Yahusha the symbols(texts) are יה .. How do you get Ye for Yeshua? My logic says that both should start with Yah

[@ontherock]

How do you get any vowel at all? Where do the vowels come from in the first place?

[@justin2308]

Even in the “Yahu-“ pronunciation, it would be more accurately spelled “Yahushua” and not “Yahusha.” At least that’s what I’ve studied.

[@terrymcclendon8715]

I agree 💯 percent

[@marsonofjo344]

The name first appeared in Scripture in Numbers 13:16 "MShH calls HUShA, the son of NUN, YHUShA". I may not know what I am talking about but Moses messed with only one name.

[@DoubtingThomasTestsEverything]

Thanks I haven't gotten far enough in to actually find the different copies we have of the masoretic or aramaic texts. I have been using Strongs for now as I'm trying to learn hebrew. In the strongs it doesn't have those vowel markers. I see the Yod Hey Waw in H3091 with no vowel markers but it does have the transliterated word as yehoshua none the less. And I didn't understand why before.

[@isaiah53praisetotheallmigh32]

Why do other scrolls from Qumran have both wav? So spelled Yahushua and not Yahshua? How do you know that the Exodus scroll is the oldest?

[@ontherock]

It's because there are more than one way to spell certain names. Like "David" can be spelled with or without the yod דוד and דויד.... but it's the same person. "Aharon" can be spelled with or without the vav, same person אהרון and אהרן, and there are other examples.

[@BilaamsDonkey]

Best, most concise, honest video on this topic.

[@ontherock]

Thanks for saying that

[@georgemeulio4063]

where is the name of the Father in yehoshua

[@ontherock]

Are you asking about a passage of Scripture, or folklore? I'm not the person to ask about Hebrew Roots folklore

[@georgemeulio4063]

im talking about is the Name of our Creator our Father in heaven in the name yehoshua...because if your talking about scripture you know the Name of the Father then from the name of the Father you will know the name of real messiah...Yah is salvation....maybe your talking about folklore thats why you dont know...

[@ontherock]

@@georgemeulio4063 hi George, would you kindly point me to the specific passages you are building upon? Thanks

[@georgemeulio4063]

start from the Name of the Father psalms 68:4,89:8,104:35,105:45 or know the hebrew names of the prophet Isaiah,Jeremiah, matthew you wil find the name of our Father Almighty but use bible that is not using the lord or god translation of Elohim...if you know the Name of the Father you will know the name of our hebrew Messiah...John 5:43,,acts4:12...the Father Name plus the word Salvation in hebrew you will know the name of messiah...thank you sir...

[@ontherock]

@@georgemeulio4063 Hi George, you wrote "Isaiah, Jeremiah, Matthew"... but these names you typed are English versions, they're English names derived from Greek and Latin. This doesn't help me understand your question. Can you please type these names in Hebrew for me? Please avoid using versions from English Bibles. Then perhaps I will better understand your question. Shalom

[@Paul.Archer]

Hi Rob, just starting to learn some Hebrew and have been curious about why the name Yehoshua (or Yeshua) has a patach under the vav when it ends with an ayin. Wouldn’t the name already have the same vocalization without the patach because the ayin would have the “ah” sound? Thanks!

[@ontherock]

It's after the "oo" vowel of the "vav," and before the "ayin," and it's called a "furtive patach." Same in the name "No'ach" and "Ru'ach" and many other situations. Ayin, alef, and chet are letters which often take this kind of patach.

[@Paul.Archer]

@@ontherock ah, okay. I understand now 🙂

[@ontherock]

@@Paul.Archer Where are you learning Hebrew? Do you have a teacher? Textbook(s)?

[@Paul.Archer]

@@ontherock umm..lol. It’s just a free online course through a messianic congregation. It’s tailored for newbies. We’re using the Hebrew Primer by Ruby G. Strauss. Because learning languages is a challenge for me, I’m taking baby steps before I consider signing up with TRI and make a solid commitment to learn the language.

[@EarthOfAbundance]

Can you please explain why do you pronounce the name as Yahoshua and not Yehoshua?

[@ontherock]

The proper pronunciation is the second you listed, "Yehoshua"... if I said "Yahoshua" it was my mistake.

[@joncpreaching]

@@ontherock I’ve grown up knowing only the name of Jesus. I’ve been pressing in to make sure I am calling the Father the right name along with Messiah. This one gentleman said he was close to death at one point from a sickness. He said he saw Jesus. He spoke with him for a little bit but then the vision was done. Not long after he had another vision and this time it was Gabriel. He said he had forgotten to ask Jesus his name the first vision but remembered to ask Gabriel in the second vision and he told him Messiah’s name was Yahshua. What’s your thoughts on this given you’ve studied Hebrew? Also, do we call Yah or Yeh? Lastly, his said that we shouldn’t call the Spirit HS, but call him Ruach. What’s your thoughts on these two things as well?

[@ontherock]

@@joncpreaching "Jesus" is the name of the Savior in the English language. "Yehoshua" and the short form "Yeshua" are Hebrew. "Holy Spirit" is the English for "Ruach HaQodesh." There's nothing wrong with saying "Jesus" and "Holy Spirit." Regarding someone claiming to have had a "vision" in which name pronunciation was revealed... nonsense. I am not interested in anyone's private vision. We have the Scriptures.

[@joncpreaching]

@ ty sir for replying! You wouldn’t imagine the battle I’ve been having with this. I’ve been in the Christian faith for 26 years. I’m diving deeper and am always trying to learn more about our Heavenly Father and our Savior. I really appreciate you taking time to respond. It gives me assurance. Last question, do you see one name more effective than the other? Like have you prayed or commanded anything in the other translated names and saw a difference? Based on what you said I would think not but was curious. When I first heard we shouldn’t call him Jesus, I’ve wondered about this and if those others proved the name they’ve been either taught or found on the internet. I’ve seen other comments by you saying this same thing “we can’t just go by others on the internet”

[@icherishcrochetandknit309]

The Lord will put an end to all this when we get to Heaven 😂 REVELATION 19:12 - His eyes were as a flame of fire, and on his head were many crowns; and he had a name written, that no man knew, but he himself.

[@misvideos360]

that saves me a lot of time

[@dilip1091]

Please help me

[@anitacarrier9386]

In yehoshua, how do we know the vowel e in yeh is not a 'a"? Yah?

[@ontherock]

Thanks for the question, Anita. We know from the masoretic vowels communicated by the scribes who preserved the Hebrew text of the Bible, and also by how the ancient Greek-speaking Jews transliterated the name into Greek, with the beginning of the name represented with Ιη or Ιε, both are "Ye-" in English.

[@David-lq4tq]

Some scholars say the only vowel sound in ancient Hebrew was A.

[@ontherock]

I would like to learn more about this idea. Can you please name a few of the scholars you're referring to?

[@MissCC]

Hello. I’m confused. Joshua and the Messiah both go by Yeshua?

[@ontherock]

Yes, that's correct. You are not confused.

[@MissCC]

@@ontherock thank you for replying and since I have you on the line (lol) do you mind me asking what translation of the Holy Scriptures do you use? How do you feel about the Halleluyah Scriptures?

[@ontherock]

@@MissCC Shalom! I think the NASB is a solid and sound version (of course all translations are interpretations). If the one you mentioned is the one I think it is, I have a copy of it because someone sent it to me. I do not really like it and would not recommend it. In my opinion it's trying too hard to be something it's not. Totally overkilling the "Hebrew roots" idea to the point of ridiculousness. A good old NASB is great. Then, for secondary resources, look at ESV, the NET Bible, and even NIV (NIV is more of a paraphrase, but in lots of cases it's not bad).

[@MissCC]

@@ontherock thank you

[@ontherock]

@@MissCC You're welcome

[@zmezgar2387]

But there are no vowels so I’m confused

[@ontherock]

Cn y rd ths sntnc? Thr r n vwls bt y cn stl rd t

[@marcemanuelc.romero4373]

Hello Rob! Please pardon me if you have already answered this question, but if I may ask, is it alright to use the name/s "Jesus", "God", and "Lord"? If so, and if not, why? I am a young child who has little-no knowledge on Hebrew, and my brain was basically fried trying to understand the concepts of its language on this video so I have to double check (T-T). Genuine question-Marc Emmanuel

[@ontherock]

Here are some videos which you might find helpful... kzbin.info/www/bejne/rHzKZ4uohZWBmtk and kzbin.info/www/bejne/n4bYaKSYqbF7bZI

[@georgebarlow3724]

What an absolute blessing. Thank you Rob

[@mmseekingtruth1961]

What is the best course to take to learn TRUE ancient Hebrew?

[@ontherock]

Good question. Start with learning the Hebrew alefbet. Once you know it well, then you can start grammar. kzbin.info/aero/PL9EVkx6_J2zRTPYDKFg4RVNIvMLN-L5uf

[@brandoesguerra47]

Sir what can you say about khabouris manuscript please can you topic

[@ontherock]

You're referring to an old Peshitta manuscript? What do you want to know about it? For one, it is a translation from Greek. It is not "original language" See my review of Roth's Aramaic English New Testament here: tr-pdf.s3.us-west-2.amazonaws.com/response-papers/review-aent.pdf

[@greyghostrider5622]

Thanks Rob.. so if Yehushua is Hebrew while Yeshua is Aramaic, would it be likely He said "I AM Yehushua" or "I am Yeshua" when he struck Paul off the donkey and spoke to him in Aramaic

[@ontherock]

ישוע Yeshua

[@pazserenaeuna]

Interesting and useful ! I believe you but i have a doubth : they writ the Name in Paleo and the rest of the text in Aramaic modern Hebrew Why ? And more thous the gramatical rules of Aramaic aply to the Paleo ? ??

[@ontherock]

There are manuscripts from Qumran where the main text is in "Aramaic" script (very close what we see now in a printed Hebrew Tanakh) but wrote certain divine names in "Paleo-Hebrew" script. Those names are יהוה, אלהים, and אדני (Elohim, YWHW, and Adonai). In this way, the scribes visually presented these names as special and holy. This is similar to English Bibles which say "the LORD"... it is a scribal/printing convention to set apart a special name. As to why all ancient Jewish scribes (even at Qumran) ultimately abandoned Paleo-Hebrew, while the Samaritans created their own version of Paleo-Hebrew, is another story.

[@pazserenaeuna]

@@ontherock Many thanks this are dificult things and we all have to go deep

[@servantofourlordjesuschris6456]

This stuff is scary. Is this messianic script? What about blue letter Bible? I remember that the Greeks did change the name of he messiah and dont know where the Hebrew Scriptures are. What about. The Jews referring to God as Yah? And blessed is he who comes in the name of ADONAI. Where be get Yah instead of Yeh and Yasha being root word of The messiah, Yahusha or yahosha instead of Yehoshua. Am I right? The vowel points were added to hide the name of the Father.

[@ontherock]

If someone told you that the vowel points were added "to hide the name of the Father," they are mistaken and are in need of correction.

[@servantofourlordjesuschris6456]

@@ontherock vowel points of Adonai, because they thought His name was to holy and sacred to be said by sinners.

[@ontherock]

@@servantofourlordjesuschris6456 The Masoretes did not create this tradition, but received it and just passed it on. So it was not their own rationale, but that of the performance tradition, meaning the way Scripture was read to the public in Hebrew, back into the early 2nd Temple era.

[@camilla6110]

Alan Horvath’s channel is a wonderful resource to learn everything you could possibly want to know about the Qodesh Names of YHWH and Yahshua. ☺️. He has a study called RECAP which breaks down all the basics in simple terms. 👍👍

[@ontherock]

@@camilla6110 No, thank you. I do not recommend that.

[@isaiah53praisetotheallmigh32]

Why do other scrolls from Qumran have both wav? So Yahushua? ( both wav) That at 1:20 would be pronounced Yahshua, or not? The masorites changed

[@ontherock]

Sometimes the letter "waw" is not technically necessary to spell a word; it is sometimes optional. Here's another video: kzbin.info/www/bejne/p6LaeGSQeNJrfLs

[@aldenvidal]

Where can we get the images of the Hebrew scrolls?

[@ontherock]

Most of my instruction videos in my "Ancient Manuscripts" playlist have links in the video description section: kzbin.info/aero/PL9EVkx6_J2zTUc6xlFNHwX_1jJljZw9AR

[@aldenvidal]

@@ontherock thank you, Yah bless you brother.

[@KeepersoftheTorah]

So how does the yah turn to yeh?

[@ontherock]

There are very many instances in Hebrew where a vowel will shorten. It's called "vowel reduction." An example would be the word "shalom." Its absolute form (when it's not attached to any other words or has any suffix) it is simply sha-lom. But if it's in "smichut" (attached to another word or has a suffix), the initial vowel reduces. So, "peace of Jerusalem" is not "shalom Yerushalayim" but "sh'lom Yerushalayim." The "a" vowel has reduced to a sheva.

[@beLovedofYAHUAH]

Thank you I love YAHuAH with all my heart mind and strength I also love YAH Our Deliverer YAHuSHAH the same There was no v in the original Eberith language - Eber was a close relative to Abrahim , it was a u So there was no vav It was uau The Saudis and other middle eastern people's speak a more clean tongue, but they write it differently, than the modern Hebrew

[@winandbreuer6300]

JAH is the short name I AM of the Father and the Son. See Psalm 68 v 4 (KJ). Hallelu-JAH

[@alexcar210]

@@winandbreuer6300 there was no j it was a y his name was yah

[@winandbreuer6300]

@@alexcar210 Dear Alex, I know, but we are in the Netherlands and it’s only a translation to Dutch. Same as Paleo to Hebrew and Hebrew (יְה) to English (YAH). God Bless,

[@alexcar210]

@Winand Breuer we aren't suppose to change what was already written because if we translate or transliterat it changes YHUH word

[@winandbreuer6300]

@@alexcar210 Dag Alex, Yah is niet hetzelfde woord als YHUH maar wel dezelfde God. Hoezo verander verander jij niet?

[@marcrodriguez01]

Thank you Rob ! So, to be clear, how was he actually called back then ? The way I see it, he was called by his family and friends and disciples as Yeshua. Only in hebrew in a very religious context would he be called Yehoshua. Is that right ?

[@ontherock]

Hi Marc, thanks for the comment and question. I would say it's possible he was referred to formally in Hebrew as Yehoshua. I don't think we can rule that out. However, we don't have any positive evidence that would permit us to insist on it. The fact that Greek speaking Jews continued to refer to Joshua bin Nun as "Yeshua" (which came into Greek from the Aramaic ישוע) means that it's likely that "Yeshua" was the most frequent name. When reading a Torah in Hebrew in a formal or liturgical setting, as you suggest, I believe they would read the full name "Yehoshua." Evidence for this is in the surviving written Targums (Jewish and Samaritan), where the name "Yehoshua" is used, even though the language of the Targum is Aramaic. Shalom

[@marcrodriguez01]

@@ontherockwow thanks for the fast response ! It's cool that you take the time to answer questions :) So what is your personal opinion on this ? Your guess ? About how his family and disciples would call him... Would it indeed be like Mary does in this scene from Passion of Christ ? kzbin.info/www/bejne/iJCZpX1vptBsibs

[@ontherock]

@@marcrodriguez01 My guess...and it's only a guess, is that they called Him "Yeshua" most of the time, and maybe on some occasions they called Him "Yehoshua," but I don't know the answer

[@marcrodriguez01]

@@ontherock Yeah I agree. Thank you ! :)

[@loismorgan2592]

Going back and looking at this one again (thanks to your "fun" mail one, which I realized I'd missed, lol!) My gooodness! the comments here! one person asked about the spelling "at 4:05", so I went back to see what was there. I think they are looking at the consonants, and avoiding the vowels because of the bad-press the vowels have gotten by some of the wacko teachers. Perhaps you should do a video on vowels, and how they are essential to speech, and that inventing vowels for eisegesis reasons is NOT more "noble" (think Bereans) than accepting traditional spelling. (although, to be fair, they seem to be doing the same thing with English spelling, so at least they're consistent in their Wack?) I have genuine question about the spelling at 4:05: Is the patach under the ayin, or the vav? I thought I learned that a consonant cannot be BOTH a vowel, and "carry" another vowel? Thanks for your help!

[@ontherock]

The vowel you're asking about is called a "furtive patach," and occurs in several words which end in an ayin or chet. The patach is pronounced before the final consonant. No-ach, Ru-ach, Lu-ach are other examples of words with "furtive patach."

[@loismorgan2592]

@@ontherock Yes, I thought that's what it was, but isn't the "furtive" written under the consonant it comes before? I thought that's how we were taught to write it.

[@ontherock]

@@loismorgan2592 Ideally it's right between the final two letters. This particular scribe was OK moving it a bit farther to the right than what we'd expect.

[@jonathanbroganhill6011]

Hi rob is the name of Jesus, yeshua or yehoshua? Just the New Testament in written in Greek.

[@ontherock]

Hi Jonathan, the name ישוע "Yeshua" was spelled Ιησους in Greek (you have to understand that the ς on the end is not part of the name, it's the nominative case ending; that's why sometimes you will see Ιησου or Ιησουν.) This was not a "Christian" invention or anything like that. We have Greek speaking Jews using this spelling back to the 3rd century BC. The fact that in the Tanakh ("OT"), "Yeshua" is used as a kind of Aramaic short-hand for "Yehoshua."

[@Soljah777]

thanks for the info! I've been juggling with this for a bit now. Seems most of the Yehusha folks claim the name of Jesus won't save you as well which is asinine being millions upon millions of Christians would be in hell even if they believed the gospel. What are your thoughts on them claiming Jesus comes from Hey-sus, Hail-zeus, and Christ coming from Krishna(hindu goddess)?

[@ontherock]

Anyone teaching nonsense such as: "Jesus comes from Hey-sus, Hail-zeus, and Christ coming from Krishna(hindu goddess)" is either an idiot or snake oil salesman... either way such are false teachers who should be corrected or ignored... Protect Yeshua's flock from poison!

[@stephenwhite5444]

Great video! Ive noticed that in Acts and Hebrew the original writer used the identical Greek name for both Joshua of the OT and 'Jesus'. This suggests to me that the apostles viewed Joshua of the OT and the Christ as having the exact same name. Had it been even a little different I think they would have given them different Greek names. Due to this ive felt like the Christs real name that His followers knew Him by was most likely Yehoshua. It sounds like you also see Yehoshua as His real name, correct? And that the "o" is a hard o like in ocean.

[@ontherock]

Yes, the Greek spelling for "Joshua" and for "Jesus" is identical. However, this spelling derives from the Aramaic form rather than from Hebrew. Joshua bin Nun is called "Yeshua" within the Tanakh itself, from early 2nd Temple texts like Nehemiah. The Greek form is simply a transliteration of the Aramaic "Yeshua" ישוע

[@stephenwhite5444]

@@ontherock I heard that the Yeshua was just an abbreviated way of writing Yehoshua after Babylon, like Josh versus Joshua. But I'm no scholar, Im just having to listen to others and there's not of bad info out there (as you've pointed out in several videos). Do the names Yehoshua and Yeshua have exactly the same meaning? Does one fit better regarding the angel explaining to name Him 'Jesus'..."for He shall save His people from their sins"....does one of the names make a little more sense from a meaning perspective?

[@ontherock]

@@stephenwhite5444 I take them to mean the same thing. There's a Hebrew version and an Aramaic version. While I'm sure people referred to Him as "Yeshua" during his lifetime on the planet, we have no evidence He was called "Yehoshua." Still, I don't think "Yehoshua" is wrong.

[@stephenwhite5444]

@@ontherock do you think 2000 years ago when they were at the synagogue reading out of the book of Joshua do you think it was more common to call Joshua by Yehoshua or Yeshua? Wouldn't the text they read for the book of Joshua have said Yehoshua? Or do you think at that point in time, they just always referred to Joshua by Yeshua? By the way....THANK YOU for clarifying this stuff the best you can. I'm no scholar, I'm just trying to piece it all together.

[@ontherock]

@@stephenwhite5444 My assumption is that when reading Hebrew, they would say "Yehoshua," but if Greek/Aramaic, they would say "Yeshua"

[@ExJwMJ]

Trying to avoid saying Jesus if is incorrect is what brought me to your video. And everything sounded great. But then you end it with saying Jesus is his name. So it defeated the purpose of this video and I’m more confused. Now, question. You say Joshua son of moon, but I need the context of these manuscripts how do you know this is speaking about Jesus and not just some guy named Joshua?

[@ontherock]

The point of the video is how we know that "Yahusha" is a recently made up word. I made it because there are lots of false teachers out there and confused individuals saying "Yahusha" and it's nonsense.

[@carmenbugeja8722]

Thanks for sharing. One time the name Yehoshua cane to me, does the pronouciation sound like "wa" at the end of the name rather than "ua" ?

[@ontherock]

Technically it's what's called a "glottal stop"... oo'a. The "oo" sound comes to a stop, then the ayin (an "a" sound, which is nearly a "ga" but a super soft "g")

[@carmenbugeja8722]

Thanks for explaining.

[@Jcs000]

isnt jesus a transliteration and not an actual translation or substitute for Yehoshua? why did you throw that in there at the end when no where was it written? and why is there a joshua AND a jesus in the bible? thanks in advanced

[@ontherock]

thanks for the great question. I think I need to create another video to get into that because as you might imagine the translation history is a bit detailed

[@sageway479]

It’s a transmogrification

[@Henry-loves-Yahuah]

Rob the issue i have with your teaching is, that what i have found with my studies so far is that the texts that you have chosen to bring tomus is the more modern text where the masorites added in the punctuation where it actually changes the meanings of words and also the jews at the time put a law in place that its against the law to actually say the creators name when if fact the text tells us the complete opposite and to praise his name and that his people will know his name, now the jews/hebrews didnt want people to say the creators name so they made sure of it by adding in the punctuation, now go check the deadsea scroll where the creators name does not have these punctuation in it, your explaining from added punctuation, please tell everyone what his real name is because over the years the languages have been changed to gide his name even scriptures tell us that people would try to remove his name thats why we have no choice to get rid of the punctuation and go back to the beginning where there is none of this and se what the text has to say without it otherwise people will be confused and im afraid thats whats happening today.

[@ontherock]

Did you watch the video? I think I show images from 4 or 5 manuscripts from the Dead Sea Scrolls, which date way before any vocalization markings were ever used. Sounds to me like you are trying to think critically, which is good. However, you need to actually learn Hebrew if you want to learn to think accurately and to discern falsehood from truth.

[@krustysurfer]

Yes Joshua! Son of man! Redeemer! Savior! YAHOSHUA HAMASHIAC!

[@Trailblazer_music]

You know that there is no O or C in HEBREW right

[@krustysurfer]

@@Trailblazer_music No J either, however in pronouncing those consonants there are vowels that come to life....... God reads hearts and probably care's little for proper annunciation 😎 aloha

[@taliagoodwomanmann]

​@@Trailblazer_music In the Hebrew, for Yahuwah and Yahushua, the vowels were not in the alefbet. Instead, they were spoken as breath sounds. Try putting YHWH together as a word without the "Ah" or "OO" sound. As for Hamashiyach, that was the term given as "Anointed One", in the time after Judah was still under Roman control.

[@krustysurfer]

So how do the scholars get from Joshua to Jesus?

[@ontherock]

Hi TD. I don't think we should pin it on "scholars" but on the natural "drift" of languages over time, and probably too few "scholars" along the way. Greek speaking Jews in the 2nd Temple Era were already spelling/transliterating the Hebrew name of "Joshua" into Greek and Roman letters. Four main points as I see it... 1) the Y becoming a J, which happened in the modern era; 2) the Hebrew "shin" being represented by the Greek "sigma," which supported a new habit of pronunciation of "s" rather than "sh"; 3) the reduction of the letter "ayin" to the point of loss of consonantal value; and 4) the last "s," which is a case ending marker and not part of the name, taken as part of the actual name. I'm glad we live in a time where we can see how all this came about and get a general grasp of the issues involved. No malicious intent here, in my opinion.

[@krustysurfer]

@@ontherock what I've seen and heard is that orthodox talmudic rabbis look at Yahoshua name as a curse and there's a spit when they say it, they spit on the ground, that they're not even supposed to say his name they blot his name out blot him out like he didn't exist... I've seen actual videos of rabbi's in Israel doing that thing when talking about his name also about his believers. According to the talmudic orthodoxy basically Jesus is a devil and his followers are devil worshipers / false idol worshipers... So that the name that they give up for Yahoshua (yeh'shu) the Redeemer is a curse name, a swear word in their Hebrew/Yiddish language. One of Jesus of crimes that they charged him with was he spoke the name of God outside the holy of holies from what I have learned that that name was only supposed to be spoken in the holy of holies to bring about the presence of God, and Jesus spoke that name for all to hear. So names in the speaking of names is or seems important that we get the name right the name of God and the name of our savior the name of the Messiah. I've done some pretty deep research on this stuff couple decades ago I think God knows our hearts since Jesus left the Holy Spirit. If I can honor the Messiah by speaking his birth name properly then I would probably do that, however I do not mean to be a stumbling block to my fellow believers who are under the teachings that Jesus that name is the holiest of names the name above all names if it is not, that it is a semantics trick to turn a blessed word into a curse word God forbid! Just like if I knew the name of God I would probably only speak it when it was in times of prayer and never to profane it...the talmudic rabbis from what I understand are sworn to secrecy now, whether they get honest with Christian believers is yet to be seen, it's hard to trust what they are saying because they are instructed to deceive the non-yahudites..... What a headache what a heartache. Blessings to you for attempting to tackle such a difficult subject

[@ontherock]

@@krustysurfer Of course it will vary from rabbi to rabbi, and much of the disdain is based upon earlier mis-characterizations, but indeed there are some who actually take the time to read the Gospels (although most likely not in their original language) and then polemicize against it. In any event, a fair academic treatment of the "Yeshu" traditions in the earlier rabbinic material is Peter Schaefer's Jesus in the Talmud. press.princeton.edu/books/paperback/9780691143187/jesus-in-the-talmud Shalom

[@animation-v2f]

Is there any reason why it couldn't be Yahushua instead of Yehoshua? Also I was under the impression in the older Paleo text it was a Waw and not a Vav.

[@ontherock]

You would need to have good reason to tell the actual preservers of the Torah (the scribes) that they have missed something from their own vocalization tradition. Imagine going to a Chinese person who specialized in a certain Chinese text, and asking them why they don't pronounce certain Chinese words differently. All we have is what we have, and the fact is that the Jewish scribal tradition, along with ancient transliterations and the epigraphic record, all testify to Ye- as the opening vowel. The "Yahushua" pronunciation is a recent invention.

[@animation-v2f]

@@ontherock Thanks for your reply and that information. In your opinion how do you think the Tetragrammaton should be pronounced?

[@ontherock]

@@animation-v2f I do not know. There are several guesses out there. But I am confident what it's not; it's not "Yehovah" or "Yehowah," because those are based off of a misunderstanding of the scribal tradition.

[@animation-v2f]

@@ontherock Ok thanks 😊

[@ontherock]

@@animation-v2f You're welcome

[@BiblicueOfficial]

That second letter shown in the thumbnail (from right to left), is a T? ת, it should be ה (H).

[@ontherock]

It is a ה. In the 9th and 10th century, the masoretes (Jewish Bible scribes) did not write the letter ה the way it's written today. It was not yet the standard convention to always detach the lower left "leg," which we are used to today. It is sometimes confused with a ח.

[@BiblicueOfficial]

@@ontherock Thank you for clearing this up

[@ontherock]

@@BiblicueOfficial I occasionally touch on these kinds of scribal peculiarities in my videos on inscriptions and manuscripts, such as these kzbin.info/aero/PL9EVkx6_J2zTUc6xlFNHwX_1jJljZw9AR

[@kays3599]

I prefer to call him by the name that Mary, Joseph, and all the disciples called him. I just feel like it's more intimate. Like if someone translated my name, and then called me that, I'd be like, "Okay, yea that's me...." but I wouldn't feel as close to that person because that's not what my mom, dad, and close friends call me. Jesus will always be close to us, no matter if we call him Jesus or Yeshua, but I think his real name is so beautiful, just as he is beautiful. I love you all in Christ! Keep up the good fight of faith!

[@dkbuttons1]

You said, "I prefer to call him by the name that Mary, Joseph, and all the disciples called him." ...you didn't tell us what that name is...I don't know what it is, what they called Him..If you could let us know that would be awesome.

[@kays3599]

@@dkbuttons1 The name that he said in the video.... in his native language he spoke on earth.

[@krustysurfer]

@@dkbuttons1 he said it several times, JOSHUA (english) And in Aramaic/Hebrew YAHOSHUA

[@gerrythorington7332]

According to the Bible, Jesus spoke Hebrew, also his given name would've been in Hebrew not Aramaic.

[@ADONAIsays-so]

I shared this to my FB page, and received a notice that it "violated community standards".

[@ontherock]

Hmmm, I wonder what specific standard it violates

[@mbnew]

@@ontherock Gender-neutral-honorific Rock, Your video was shared on FaceBook. It has been flagged for violating their clear, well-defined community standards. Specifically, Standard #407 - "Your video mentions that some person, place, or thing - living, dead, or imaginary - is "wrong." Clearly, you do not understand that there is no absolute "right" or "wrong." Except in this case; obviously YOU are absolutely wrong." Standard #659 - "Someone disagrees with your video. They were offended that you do not agree with them. As such, your video has been flagged as 'hate speech.'" Standard #1 - "We don't like it." With distain, Your FaceBook Overlords

[@ontherock]

@@mbnew : )

[@marbanak]

Mighty shalom, brother Rob. Honest question for you: Pursuant to prior discussion, I drilled down and discovered that modern Samaritans pronounce Joshua's name "Ye'oosha. Two witnesses for this. OK. Suppose you and I found the grace to evangelize today's Samaritans. Q?: Into which form of the Messiah's Name should we baptize them? And what form would we use to teach them, etc. I have long pondered this questions for Jews and Israelites scattered abroad in antiquity. But I am here confronted with an unusual pronunciation, derived from the Hebrew. I sincerely welcome your take on this. I'm kinda liberal on this, and would lean towards using the pronunciation they extracted from the Tanakh. I welcome your comments.

[@ontherock]

Samaritans have a particular set of needs when it comes to evangelism. First, they reject the Prophets and the Davidic dynasty, and even Jerusalem as the legitimate home for the Temple. So in my view, their pronunciation of Hebrew (influenced by Arabic, many of their histories are written in Arabic) is down on the list of concerns. But if they hear and believe the Gospel (accepting then of course the line of David, the Psalms and Prophets, Jerusalem, and the "salvation is of the Jews" (John 4), and thus rejecting their own ancestral interpretations), then they will happily learn "Yeshua" as the name and be baptized accordingly.

[@marbanak]

@@ontherock Thanks!

[@fabientoffano1215]

yahushua or yehoshoua his name in hebrew?

[@ontherock]

Yehoshua is the best English transliteration

[@PraiseYahMinistry]

​@@ontherock See but shouldn't we be doing it from the Hebrew not the English? What is it in the Hebrew then?

[@ontherock]

@@PraiseYahMinistry In the Bible, the same person is called both Yehoshua (bin Nun) and also Yeshua (bin Nun), a shortened Aramaic form. "Yeshua" is the name of the Messiah.

[@RoryTyner]

What of those who say jesus, does Father know our heart?

[@ontherock]

Nothing wrong with calling on the name of Jesus☺

[@RoryTyner]

@@ontherock so whats the poinr Yahuah, he was there he is hear, he will be there. Yahusha , he saves for Yahuah,the point is there is great power in his name, the name above all names,Thank you for even doing a vidio about his name.

[@ontherock]

@@RoryTyner Because those are false names made up to give people the sense of "ancient Hebrew" but it's a complete lie

[@RoryTyner]

@@ontherock l will ask again does he know our heart?does it cause you to stumble in hearing these names if so i will apologize, Joshua was also a great man .

[@ontherock]

@@RoryTyner God gives us teachers to correct our thinking and to aid us in our growth. Regarding the human heart, Jeremiah puts it this way: “The heart is more deceitful than all else and is desperately sick; Who can understand it? I, the LORD, search the heart, I test the mind, to give to each person according to his ways, according to the results of his deeds."

[@pattrell5257]

That said, is YHWH: YAHUAH/YAHUWAH/YAHUVAH OR YEHOAH/ YEHOVAH/YEHOWAH? I always got the impression that the prefix version of YHWH was YEHO/YEHU[as in Yehoshua or Yehudah] AND the suffix version was YAHU[as in Eliyahu or Yeshayahu]. What am I missing?

[@ontherock]

Hebrew vowels are preserved by the masoretic scribes. So people who read the Hebrew must engage with what the scribes wrote. There is no Bible without the scribes. All the different "pronunciations" of the Tetragrammaton are departures from the scribes, they are clever attempts to innovate or "reveal" things to people with itchy ears. The vowels the scribes put on the Tetragrammaton are for either "Adonai" or "Elohim," depending upon the passage.

[@vladgor4099]

@@ontherockSo which one is it??

[@joshuab2437]

​@@vladgor4099 It is Yahuah and Yahusha.

[@NuYahWuhSent]

You have the son of nun confused with the son of Yahuah through the Ruach Ha'Qodesh through mariam. This man speaks Moses's steward. Read from the besorah. He that receives you receives me, and he that receives me receives him את that sent me. MATTITHYAHU (MATTHEW) 10:40 את CEPHER

[@ontherock]

You cite the "את CEPHER" to me... I'm not the one who is confused. Do yourself a favor, abandon nonsense and actually learn Hebrew for real.

[@isaiah53praisetotheallmigh32]

Sorry I posted my other comment too soon.The masoretes changed the Yah into Yeh, otherwise we'd be singing halleluYEH! The gentiles shall know my name.The world sings halleluYAH!

[@pablosetien5548]

Is a conspiracy to hide the Creator name YAH as " YAHrusalen" , YAHuah , YAHweh, YAHshua , even in arabics countries exist ancients cities with name FaluYAH , etc...

[@BiblicalResearch777]

Do you have evidence of this?

[@sundayciscero]

From what I understand, in Hebrew, a name can’t start with YAH, (Gods name) only end with it. It’s only like one or two instances where that happens. So what you’re saying is incorrect. Most times when YAH is in the beginning of a word it is Yeh. Please stop with the misinformation and pls don’t tell people they are saying His name wrong for saying Yeshua. When evidence shows everyone in Jesus time was saying Yeshua and Yehoshua.

[@lytehouse9342]

The Real One ☝🏾 is The One ☝🏾 Who came in HIS FATHERS NAME 100% correct Numbers 13:16 and Exodus 6:3 I have come in my FATHERS NAME AND YE HAVE REJECTED ME ANOTHER SHALL COME IN HIS OWN NAME AND HIM YE SHALL RECEIVE

[@alexkorami6679]

👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽

[@LewWhite10]

The Name is turning the world upside-down again. YOD-HAY-UAU is YAHU. SHIN-AYIN is the suffix in ALISHA (H477) and YAHUSHA (H3091). H3068 (YOD-HAY-UAU-HAY) uses four vowels for the Name of YAHUAH in at least 6,823 places in Scripture. The suffix SHA is from the root YASHA (YOD-SHIN-AYIN. The prophet "ISA-IAH" is YASHAYAHU, YAHU+SHA is H3091, and found 216 times. It means "I am your Deliverer." It was first used at Num. 13:16 when the name of HUSHA (H1954) was altered.

[@ontherock]

Hi Lew! "Altered"? That's quite a sensational accusation. If you're going to make such an accusation, what's your evidence? Who altered it, and when did they do it, and for what reason? How do you spell "Jacob" in Hebrew? How about "David"?

[@LewWhite10]

@@ontherock HUSHA (H1954) was given an altered name by MUSHAH (MEM-SHIN-HAY) as recorded at Num. 13:16. YAQUB in Eberith is H3290, YOD-AYIN-KOF-BETH. DAUD in Eberith is H1732, DALETH-UAU-DALETH. Always glad to help.

[@ontherock]

@@LewWhite10 Not much help. Where do you get the "U" for "MUSHAH"? Where do you get the "U" for "YAQUB"? Why do you ignore the "Yod" in דויד?

[@LewWhite10]

@@ontherock We don't have to worry about these transliterations in Latin letters as long as we stick with the Eberith letter sounds. The name DAUD is DAUD, not DAYD, having only three letters. DAUD may be pronounced "DUDE" - I prefer it, but most called him DAWID for some reason. We can't fix any of this, but YAHUSHA (H3091, YAHU+SHA) will correct much more than how we speak. It's how we treat each other that is of greater concern. 😊

[@ontherock]

@@LewWhite10 If you are spreading falsehoods, it is good and kind for me to correct you. Your "Hebrew" is what I call Heebrish. Learn the truth, change your ways. You have taught falsehood for decades. It is proper for me to point that out to you and to anyone propagating your false teaching. Your "Yahusha" is made up Heebrish.

[@joshuanath7495]

So, is it possible to use Yehoshua to refer to Jesus?

[@ontherock]

It's not too much of a problem, because it's the same Hebrew name as Joshua. However, I don't think Yeshua's family or disciples ever called Him that.

[@joshuanath7495]

@@ontherock thank you so much for your answer

[@ontherock]

@@joshuanath7495 You're welcome

[@marbanak]

Thanks, Rob. I would ask that you respond to the following resolution: The original name, given to the Ephraimite commander, really did sound like "Yahosha" (perhaps "Yahusha"). But that was the old, original Northern Ephraimite version of his name. In southern Judah, they inflected it with that "u" sound in the end, because, well, that's what the Jews naturally said. We have a similar trend in the name of Elisha, a prophet in the North, and Elishua, son of David, in the Jewish south. Though I believe the ancient pronunciation (Yahusha/Yahosha) is a legitimate form of that name, the Apostles never heard it. I humbly await your comments after you consider this for a while. As far as the first waw, the one in the Theophoric, its ultimate disappearance will be explained by dissimilation, as I have found several scholars agree.

[@ontherock]

It's a carefully considered idea, thanks for posting it. But the main reasons I don't accept it are as follows: 1) It depends upon an anachronistic projection of later "North" / "South" geographically-oriented dialects back onto the time of the Exodus. 2) It doesn't explain why twice the scribes preserve the spelling in full יהושוע, for the same historical person. 3) We have the same thing with many names whose spellings vary, but it's the same person, such as יעקב and יעקוב 4) Elisha and Elishua are names for different individuals, so it is not applicable for Yehoshua. 5) If the Apostles never heard "Yahusha" (where I do agree with you) then neither did Yeshua's brothers or anyone else at the time. And if that's the case, why are people even imagining all this?

[@marbanak]

@@ontherock Kind shalom. Thank you for your generous, reply. a) I will let you cut this off whenever you wish. b) My "Pronunciation Theology" is eclectic. It's lonely but liberating to defend the evidence of dialectal variety in our records. c) Transliteration/transcription is biblical. Just look at the names of pagan deities & kings. But the Bible also teaches dialectal variety. It is preposterous to assume that all Israelites at all places, times and tribes pronounced all these names identically. Joshua's name has at least five Hebrew spellings, three of them in the Bible. I note all your sources are preMessianic Hebrew. ==> In your reply, You inadvertently created a "heads-you-win/tails-I-lose" framework. You deemed the elisha/elishua pair irrelevant because they were 2 different people. I rather believe this is superior evidence of my claim. Please think about it. If I gave you an elisha/elishua pair for a single individual, you would simply seize upon one as authentic, and deem the other as a mere "defective-spelling" variation, as you do presently. I was wrong to say the Apostles never heard "Yehosha". Since viewing your fine video (2x), I recalled that the Samaritan Torah shows the "defective spelling" in Deut 3:21. Of course! The Samaritan Torah is a "Northern" document. When the Apostles evangelized Samaritans, there is a reasonable chance that they encountered an ancient pronunciation, perhaps Yehosha/Yehoshea. Remember that this name started by placing a Yodth before "Hoshea" (not Hoshua). Conclusion: I say it is the Jewish "shua" sound, which is anacrostically applied to Moses' Ephraimite buddy. The Northern Israelite sound may also explain the puzzling Arabic form "ISA". I will let you have the last word, friend. I must free you up for other research.

[@ontherock]

@@marbanak There's no good reason to suppose there was no "furtive patach" (as it's called now). Are you suggesting that "Noah" or "Ruach" are properly "Nach" and "Rach" among northerners? Do you think "Moses" is properly "Mashah"? And you didn't respond concerning the spellings for "Jacob".. יעקב and יעקוב... do you pronounce these two differently? And what about דוד and דויד, do you think these are pronounced the same? The Samaritan Pentateuch is very late (12th or 13th cent AD), completely corrupted, and we barely even have a single witness. Besides, Yeshua told the woman (Jn 4) "Y'all do not know what you worship..." Why would we look to that tradition for rock to build upon? The "ancient pronunciation" which you posit here is imaginary. No evidence, only speculation upon speculation. I'm interested in building houses "on the Rock" and not on sand. Shalom

[@marbanak]

@@ontherockThanks.

[@ontherock]

@@marbanak Side note: If I'm reading my HALOT correctly (Hebrew Aramaic Lexicon), then it looks like the Samaritan Pentateuch actually has יהושוע in other places. I would have to check the manuscript personally to be sure. It's available here: cudl.lib.cam.ac.uk/view/MS-ADD-01846/9

[@Twowheel-Rider]

Rob, would you agree that Yehosha and Yehoshua are perfectly acceptable?

[@ontherock]

The word "Yehosha" is a recent invention in English. There is no such Hebrew name in the Bible.

[@Twowheel-Rider]

@ontherock Thanks for your reply. Wouldn't it be the same as Yehoshua just minus the Vav in the third syllable? It appears this way multiple times in the hebrew text. If there were no vowels in hebrew, wouldn't this be a shortened name similar to how we have Joshua to Josh? h3091. יְהוֹשׁוּעַ Yehoshua or יְהוֹשֻׁעַ

[@ontherock]

@@Twowheel-Rider No, it's not the same as "Yehoshua." The absence of the letter "vav" makes no difference here. There is no attestation, (in Hebrew, Aramaic, or transliterations in Greek or Latin) where the "oo" vowel is removed after the letter shin. The word "Yehosha" is a recent invention which emerged among people who are either 1) uninformed but well intended, 2) ignorant and prideful, or 3) wolves in sheep's clothing. I don't see a fourth option here. It does not come from people who actually know Hebrew. If you find this frustrating or disturbing, I can only recommend you begin the journey of learning Hebrew for yourself, from a legitimate teacher. It takes time and is not easy, but it is well worth it. Shalom

[@Twowheel-Rider]

@ontherock Thank you for your reply. No, it's not frustrating at all, 😄 Just curious. Thank you again 👍

[@deddykustedi5617]

Thank you for reall sharing . How about name Yeshua ??

[@ontherock]

Yeshua is the name of the Messiah, which by process of transliteration into different languages became "Jesus" in English.

[@tekhelettassels462]

Thankyou for your help cuz I'm a biblecode searcher n I did a code on prince of peace..and I got Yeshua..but the code I am working on in Isaiah 53...the acsess term is Yahusha yod hey vav shin ayin...so good deal 🎉🎉🎉

[@LewWhite10]

Hi Rob, you are showing some Eberith scripts and inserting phonemes (niqqud markings) invented during the 8th century and beyond in Babel. The niqqud marks seen around the Name (4 vowels Y H U H) direct or cue a reader to mispronounce YAHU, and the KJV's concordance by James Strong transliterated the sound of YAHU as "YEHO." The letter we now sound as "V" is the vowel "U" because the buzzing sound of the upper teeth on lower lip heard as a modern V is a consonant. The Aramith script of Yahudah's captors was brought back from the 70-year captivity. H U SH A (hay-uau-shin-ayin) had his name changed by the addition of a yod, see Num. 13:16).

[@ontherock]

Hi Lew, you have drastically oversimplified the topic at hand, and this leads people in the wrong direction. I can tell by your comments, here as well as in your published material, that you lack crucial knowledge about the Hebrew and Aramaic languages and their histories. Looking over the last 20 or 30 years, it's clear to me that you've been too slow to hear, and too quick to speak. Lacking Biblical wisdom and discipline, you came to hasty conclusions and ran with them, unchecked by competent mentors. Now all your "yes men" and sales success function as thick foreskin around your heart. Repent from this pride and turn in humility to good Hebrew and Aramaic teachers.

[@LewWhite10]

@@ontherock (read this aloud in your head in a kind tone, perhaps with the song "Chances Are" by Johnny Mathis playing softly in the background): I'm being told, "Repent from this pride and turn in humility to good Hebrew and Aramaic teachers." If I'm understanding what is being said, I've drastically oversimplified the topic, and recommended to turn to those more adept in the Hebrew and Aramaic and learn the correct understanding from them, because I've come to hasty conclusions without competent mentors. I've studied with them, and their methods used strictly the script of our captors with the added bonus being the 8th-century CE niqqud marks. Real Eberith script was unreadable to those at Belshazzar's party when Danial was called to read what the hand had written on the wall, and it has no spaces between words, as the Gatestone replica called the Los Lunas Stone which I use in many of my videos. The gentleman reading YashaYahu 53 in his chariot (Acts 8:26-40) was reading it aloud so he could hear the words and discern them by listening as he read. Go investigate the DSS copy of the scroll of YashaYahu (called the Great Isaiah Scroll) on display in the Hekal Sefer Museum at Yerushalim. It is written mostly in Aramith script, but the copyists left the most-used word, the Name Yahuah, as it was in Eberith, throughout the scroll. This is an enormously important fact, and is completely ignored by the builders that rejected this keystone (the Name of Yahuah). If you are suggesting that I lack crucial knowledge of how "Hebrew" is taught now, and has been over the centuries since the niqqud marks were invented by the Masoretes (a Qaraite sect) after 767 CE, that ship sailed during my studies in the 1980's. The teachers were consumed by their traditions, and literally knew nothing about any script but the one they were taught, and that you now teach new innocent minds. The humble thing to do is listen, then respond with a gentle answer that increases knowledge. The first to state his case seems right, until another comes and questions him. Go look up the definition of a vowel, and the definition of a consonant, and research what Yusef Ben MatithYahu (Flavius Josephus) wrote about seeing the 4 vowels of the Name in Eberith (not Aramith) on the actual golden head piece worn by the Kohen ha Gadol. Would Yahuah have told Mushah to put His Qodesh Name on Aharon's forehead written in Babel's Aramith script, or authentic Eberith script? After you have researched and asked Yahuah His perspective on all this, let's talk again. Yahuah's Name should not have any marks to help pronounce it, men did this to it.

[@ontherock]

@@LewWhite10 Wow, here is one of the main inventors of "Heberglish," offering me free instruction! Are there still people out there entertained by your strange hybrid mix of English and Strong's "Eberith"? It's comical how you have created your own pronunciation and vocalization scheme. You'll get neither traction nor sympathy here, Lew.

[@LewWhite10]

@@ontherock Thank you for reading my comments Rob, I look forward to you addressing the concerns I've raised about phonology as your research progresses.

[@ontherock]

@@LewWhite10 You're welcome to learn from all my videos. Your hybrid and sloppy transliteration scheme (with words like Eberith, Aramith, Yusef, Mushah, etc...) is based upon your "pick and choose" policy, of when to accept the wisdom of scribal discipline and when to invent your own new world for the sake of making a "splash" and selling your wares. You should be ashamed of yourself for peddling and profiting off of nonsense. May יהוה grant you repentance. Additionally, learn to actually do your own research. The "Great Isaiah Scroll" uses the Aramaic script for the Tetragrammaton. Get real and see it for yourself. dss.collections.imj.org.il/isaiah

[@gloriahamel2963]

There’s only one, Father and Robbie. That’s YAHUAH ELOHIM; the Father of heaven and earth, the Creator of all things. HIM ONLY SHALL WORSHIP!!! YAHUAH BLESS.

[@BiblicalResearch777]

Is that karate?

[@timtooker8332]

And what about the correct pronunciation of the Son Yahshua. Is that correct or should it be Yahushua?

[@BiblicalResearch777]

@@timtooker8332 yeshua

[@Renaudio]

The Father’s Name is YeHoVaH - Yehovah. His Son’s Name is Yeshua who is our Savior 💞💞💞💞💞🙌🙌🙌🙌🙌🙌🙌 YHVH(יהוה)with the vowels: “Shva, Kholam and Kamats” when they are placed properly spell out The Father’s Name Yehovah pronounced: YeHoVaH.

[@benny43374]

Where did you get the name YAHUAH ?

[@mmmkay3082]

I’m not fluent in Hebrew or Aramaic. And I do not claim to know Hebrew vowels. But Yehoshua sounds like Yod, Hei, Shin, Vav(Uau), Ayin. Not Yod, Hei, Vav (Uau), Shin, Ayin; meaning Yahusha. Please respond. It also makes since that the fathers name is in the sons name also. Yod Hei Vav

[@ontherock]

Looks like you know at least some of the letters, which good. Vowels are your next step, then some basic grammar. Some other short videos you might find helpful: kzbin.info/www/bejne/eHLHo2qKepuMgs0 kzbin.info/www/bejne/mpbUaY1qrKeEick kzbin.info/www/bejne/n4bYaKSYqbF7bZI

[@Saadyahu]

So is Yahoshua and Yahshua both invented to ?

[@ontherock]

Yes, they're new words, made-up by people who don't know Hebrew.

[@alexkorami6679]

​@@ontherock What's the fathers Name?

[@ontherock]

@@alexkorami6679 יהוה

[@easttexan2933]

I respectfully disagree with your interpretation. All my studies of the name take me back to a time with no vowels added. Yahuah and Yahusha or Yahushua. One thing both of us can agree on is, he was not called Jesus (Acts 26:14)

[@ontherock]

If there were no vowels added, why do you use "a" and "u"...which are vowels? Why are you adding vowels, if there were none back then? Why "a"? Why "u"? And how do you know where to put them?

[@easttexan2933]

@@ontherock scroll to 8:30 kzbin.info/www/bejne/gXrKla2fj75_rs0 and also kzbin.info/www/bejne/rYPWl3eJZd6qbMk

[@terrymcclendon8715]

In paleo wouldn't it be Yaohshai

[@ontherock]

Paleo-Hebrew is a script. It's not a different language, not a different pronunciation.

[@terrymcclendon8715]

@@ontherock thank you!

[@terrymcclendon8715]

@@ontherock how about yeshai YAOH in Paleo, I'm confused, shin in Paleo should be shai , correct

[@ontherock]

@@terrymcclendon8715 Hi Terry, The term "Paleo-Hebrew" does not address pronunciation, or how letters sounded. "Paleo-Hebrew" refers to script... how letters were written, the specific shapes of the letters. Nothing about how they sounded. I hope this is helpful. Shalom

[@terrymcclendon8715]

@@ontherock shalom thank you , so is ancient Paleo and ancient Aramaic pretty much the same language

[@fortis6258]

I have heard so mant different ways of people saying it and arguing in Messianic Congregations, that I became disheartened and it was confusing. I was told the Yeh is what changes grammatically in Hebrew from the Yah, but they are the same root name. I was also also the "W" like WAW instead of VAV came first and there was no "V" in Older Hebrew and Jewish Aramaic. I know the HaShem is in Psalms 119. How does Yesha and Yasha words in Hebrew add the "Shua"? In Greek it is Iesous with no "H" or "Sha" letters, but is it really the same name? Confusion is difficult, bit this is a really helpful video. Thank you and Shalom

[@ontherock]

Yes, learning the differences in languages and how they change over time takes patience and care. Regarding the letter waw/vav, see my recent video on the name David: kzbin.info/www/bejne/pJ_CfXRumZZjsJY

[@Terneyah]

Despite Rob's (and other peoples) efforts to clear this up (and they did well!), let me drop this comment here: Tetragrammaton: We can't know for sure, if the full name was pronounced as Yehowah, Yahowah or Yahweh, it also kinda depends if it is a Qal or a Hifil form thereof. What the Masoretes really did, is to add the vowels of "Adonai" to the Tetragrammaton, to remind the Reader to NOT pronounce the name of God normally, but to use the substitute "Adonai". This has been already proven, as there are also occurences of the word Yehowih - the vowels of Elohim, to remind the Reader that he/she should pronounce it as Elohim instead of doubling it as 'Adonai, Adonai'. Nehemiah Gordon however, says that Yehovah stems from an ancient tradition, that has been passed down to every generation and even memorized in additional scriptures (Talmud, Targums etc.) because some Sages hinted, that the vowels of the word (ha-)Olam are the authentic and correct vowels for the Tetragrammaton. Michael S. Heiser (RIP), Jeff A. Benner and a couple Karaite teachers (Rekhavi, Alfandari (RIP)) explain it as Yihweh or Yihwah, while Dr. Heiser (RIP) agrees that this would be the Qal pronunciation, he concluded that the Tetragrammaton is Hif'il (causative) in origin and thus: Yahweh. Oh and Nehemiah Gordon says that the W was a V sound, but.. yea.. that's highly controversial. It's most likely that already, during the Mishnaic(!) Hebrew times, it switched from W to V, due to foreign influence. Nearly all other semitic languages retained the W correctly; and we already have a Veth/Beth! Anyway: the shwa (vowel) depends on the dialect of each communities; the Tiberian Jews tended to use the shwa normally as a Patach Hataf (short A) at the beginning of a word, that would mean: Yaho. Other communities, basically the majority, tend to use a shortened Seghol as a Shwa in that prefix, thus: Yeho. People also discussed that this Patach Hataf rule only applies to prefixes (B/V, or W), not to actual words. No matter if it's Yeho or Yaho - depending on the dialect, both are in their way correct. However, Yeho is the more traditional pronunciation of the prefix .... especially in Israeli / modern-day Hebrew, so we'll stick to it from now on. Prefixes (with vowels) YHW = Yehoshua (with shwa and holam, consonant Heh softly pronounced) YW = Yoshua (with holam) Y = Yeshua (with tsere) [compare it to the name of Yehu - the King of the Northern Kingdom, it's a bit complicated ... but in this case, it might really be just the Aramaic version] Suffixes (with vowels) YHW = Yahu (with qames and shuruq, consonant Heh softly pronounced) YH = Yah (with qames, consonant Heh silently pronounced) YH = YaH (with qames and a mappiq in Heh, thus stronger pronounced than usual) There's another, similar version of Jesus name - it was found in an ancient letter from Lachish, 589 BCE (First Temple Period): Hoshiyahu or Hoshiyah To quote Jeff Benner: unless we find Moses' tape-recorder, we prolly wont know the correct pronunciation. 😆 We can only reconstruct it, thanks to Tiberian Hebrew and the Masoretes. Also, there was.. uhh.. other Niqqud. Ever heard of the Jerusalemite/Palestinian vocalization? Yup... that's why it's so complicated, because there were many traditions, or lets say: dialects. Yahshua, Yahushua, Yahusha, Yahuwashu, Yahawashi - all these names aren't in accordance with any known tradition. It's just some kind of forgery - without a historical or scriptural basis, nor do these forms follow the typical grammar rules. It's like the Gnostic believers used to behave, when practicing their faith, as they also mixed up stuff and created new names. Check them out - there are many articles on it! However: the meaning and character of the Holy Name is the most important. Godspeed! ❤

[@ontherock]

Wow, some anonymous intellect citing NG, MH, and JB... all of whom I greatly respect and are not snake oil salesmen at all, and who should be taken seriously and whose books should fill the shelves of every serious Bible student... (Not.)

[@Terneyah]

​@@ontherock "Anonymous Intellect"? Why would you call me like that, and if so - apparently in a sarcastic way? What's so bad about my arguments and also citing Karaite scholars / Hakhamim as well? I mean, NG, MH and JB are pretty prominent on the internet, many people know them and I just wanted to draw a comparison. I dunno what's so bad about that - or even them, as they got a point of view and a PhD. (two of 'em at least) And there's the Institute of Biblical Culture as well. BUT: If they are SO bad, in your opinion, I would kindly ask you to suggest me some names I could research and take a look. Regarding the Book-Selling: let's go for archeology; would you also call an Israel Finkelstein, Gabriel Barkay or Dan Bahat snake-oil-salesmen, because they are earning their money with it? 😆

[@ontherock]

@@Terneyah Why did I refer to you as an "anonymous intellect"? 🤔 Hmmm, let me see... How about because 1) you're posting from an anonymous account, and 2) you present yourself as one who brings clarity of knowledge (intelligence) I don't care what videos you watch or what books you read. Just don't expect to get any traction here. My advice to you: stop hiding, stop pretending. Either that, or leave this site.

[@Terneyah]

@@ontherock Umm, this is my 'normal' and only uTube-Account, with a nickname - what's so special about it? I'm not a teacher, nor a student of a university - I dont have any videos uploaded on that matter. I didnt criticize or disagree with your point of view - you have plenty good stuff uploaded, which I started to watch. I have no idea what you mean by "traction". But after reading all these odd comments from other people here; I actually tried to support you, and confirm your video. That's why I gave a Like and I wanted to subscribe, but.. yea. Guess I'll pass then, if you dislike my comment(s) that much. I would've cared what kind of books you read, tho. Apparently, you'd help me out with that - on an intellectual level, which is important to me. That's why I kindly asked.

[@ontherock]

@@Terneyah You have made all manner of comments about Hebrew vowels, transliterated words "nikkudot," etc... and have given what you think are possible pronunciations of the Tetragrammaton, and cited several names which I assume you take as authorities on the matter. Do you not present yourself then as a teacher? As an intellectual? I do not respect NG, MH, or JB, or any other names you mention. So when I say "traction" I mean that "name dropping" them here is actually not a good thing. Maybe there are 100,000 or more other KZbinrs who will love those teachers. Not me. Not here. If you would like to chat, and help me understand your situation and your particular need, I would be willing to recommend some books. rob at messiahmatters com

[@elricdaisy2385]

The true pronunciation for the son's name is Yahusha or Yahosha The Son of Nun's name was HOSHA In hebrew lexicon H1954 הושׁע and Moseh only added the name with the letter Yod and become a Yahosha " יהושׁע " and that word Hosha is found also in HOSHAna which means HOSHA (salvation) NA ( I pray ) and the other one is king Hoshayah (2 kgs. 17:1)

[@justin2308]

יְהוֹשׁוּעַ is how I’m seeing H309 (minus the diacritics), meaning it would be Yahushua.

[@elricdaisy2385]

@@justin2308 what's your point? H309 Original: אחר Transliteration: 'âchar Phonetic: aw-khar' BDB Definition: to delay, hesitate, tarry, defer, remain behind (Qal) to delay, tarry (intensive) to cause one to delay, hinder, keep back (Piel) to delay, wait, stay behind (but not in hope) Origin: a primitive root TWOT entry: 68 Part(s) of speech: Verb Strong's Definition: A primitive root; to loiter (that is, be behind); by implication to procrastinate: - continue, defer, delay, hinder, be late (slack), stay (there), tarry (longer).

[@elricdaisy2385]

@@Johnny-pj9hd and what is the name of the Son of Nun before moses changed his name? Show me in hebrew letter.

[@elricdaisy2385]

@@Johnny-pj9hd and what is his name in hebrew before moses changed the name of the son of Nun?

[@garlandjones7709]

​@@justin2308the spelling you presented is YehOshua, not YehUshua

[@nazihhaddad]

The messiah came in his father's name, Yah. So where is his father's name in Yehoshua?

[@ontherock]

Hi nazihhaddad, I assume you're referring to John 5:43 and 10:25. The proper frame for understanding this idiom is the Tanakh. For example, 1 Samuel 17:45 we read, But David said to the Philistine, “You come to me with a sword, a spear, and a saber, but I come to you in the name of YHWH..." The Scriptures are not teaching us that the personal name "David" must therefore contain the Tetragrammaton. That would be to miss the point, because it's referring to authority. Or in Micah 4:5 we read, "As for us, we will walk in the name of YHWH our God forever and ever." Again, the Scriptures are not teaching us that the personal name "Micah" must therefore contain the Tetragrammaton. It's about authority. If you go back and read the context for John 5:43, it's clearly about authority. Shalom

[@dannyfaganjr5082]

I don’t understand y u get Yeh for the beginning and not Yah?

[@ontherock]

It's not me, it's from those who preserved the Scriptures. I'm not inventing anything; what I'm saying isn't anything new. What's new are all the different pronunciations which various people (most of whom don't know any Hebrew at all) are advocating.

[@dannyfaganjr5082]

@@ontherock ok sry well I guess I don’t understand how they get Yeh instead of Yah. Y is it Yeh and not Yah like Yahudah? I’m just trying to find out how they are getting Yeh.

[@ontherock]

@@dannyfaganjr5082 It's how the language works. Have you considered passages like Neh 8:17? Or Hag 1:1 and Ezra 3:2?

[@dannyfaganjr5082]

@@ontherock I ask that question before because it didn’t make sense in one place it’s Joshua and in another it Yeshua that’s confusing.

[@ontherock]

@@dannyfaganjr5082 If you look at the original languages in these passages, you see that in Hebrew texts, it reads יהושע "Yehoshua" (son of X), and in Aramaic it reads ישוע "Yeshua" (son of X). The important point is that the Tanakh itself refers to the same person in both languages. Aside from this we have the ancient Greek transliterations. There are other examples.

[@yukno_stretch]

Incorrect. There’s no E or Eh sound in the name. His name is Yahusha, yod-hay-uau-shin-ayin. And the father’s name is Yahuah, yod-hay-uau-hay. Yohanan (John)5:43📖 Shemoth (Exodus) 3:15📖 Yeshayahu (Isaiah) 42:8📖 Ibrim (Hebrews) 13:8📖

[@ontherock]

If only you could time travel, so you could take your knowledge with you and go and correct the ancient scribes who wrote the Scripture for you.

[@yukno_stretch]

@ The Ancient Scriptures are the Scriptures I’m referencing. Makes no sense to go “correct” or “change” them. Beautiful attempt at sarcasm, you failed tho but still great attempt.

[@ontherock]

@@yukno_stretch And where exacly do I get a copy of these "The Ancient Scriptures" you're referencing?

[@alexcar210]

Is there actual proof of Messiahs name in Hebrew anywhere?

[@ontherock]

Hebrew only by deduction (but within Tanakh itself, Joshua bin Nun is called both יהושוע and ישוע) In text preservation by Jewish Greek and Aramaic. We know that the Messiah has the same name as Joshua (bin Nun).

[@alexcar210]

@@ontherock thank you!!! One last question? Is there actual proof in the Mathew dead sea scrolls and if so could you share a link?

[@ontherock]

@@alexcar210 What's the "Matthew dead sea scrolls"? There are no Gospels among the DSS

[@alexcar210]

​@@ontherockI'm curious you say it's yehoshua correct but the Prime Minister has the last 3 letters in his name but it's revealed as YAHU. בִּנְיָמִין נְתַנְיָהוּ-Binyāmīn Nētanyāhū so wouldn't it be YAHUSHUA?

[@ontherock]

@@alexcar210 There is a vowel reduction which occurs in certain instances in Hebrew, with all sorts of words. One name in particular is the Hebrew behind "Jonathan." Within the Hebrew TaNaKh itself, it's sometimes spelled יְהוֹנָתָן and other times יוֹנָתָן... this is an example (among many) of what is called vowel reduction. To grasp this fully one needs to take Hebrew from a reputable institution.

[@marnyalken17]

They say what is in a name, it depends on the language people speaks, important is if we keep believe in The Most High Yah, The Creator Of All, and know what He stands for!!!

[@stephenfoster9009]

Yehova there is over 1,000 manuscripts with the vowels included. Hebrew letters can be prepositions , show ownership and tense.

[@ontherock]

Who taught you such things?

[@stephenfoster9009]

@@ontherock Nehemiah Gordon a Jewish scholar who has cataloged them

[@ontherock]

@@stephenfoster9009 Thanks, yeah what you said sounded very much like what NG's been teaching for 20+ years now. But I didn't want to assume that, so that's why I asked. (Perhaps you've already gathered from what you see on my site is NG is totally wrong on this crucial front.) Contrary to what NG keeps selling, the masoretic vowels on the Tetragrammaton are indeed from the word אדני. NG has a slight-of-hand trick on this very point, so people who lack competency in the masorah and the manuscripts don't know how to call BS, they just go "wow I'm bedazzled, must be true, etc..." It's merely a sad symptom of the "Bedazzled Church" more broadly. This very thing NG avoids talking about when he's in the midst of the worlds top Masorah scholars. I even have a very recent recording of him giving a presentation in that domain, where NG says "Adonai" when it comes to reciting passages with the Tetragrammaton. In other words, NG changes his tune depending upon his audience. There's a word for people like that in Scripture too.

[@bryancarlos6466]

So Yeshua,, pronounced ya shu a is incorrect????

[@ontherock]

In the Bible, they use a tsere under the yod, so it's Yeshua... and the Greek captures that same vowel with the letter eta.

[@valq661]

What about hamashiach?

[@ontherock]

What about the Hebrew term?

[@valq661]

@@ontherock just wanted to know the correct pronunciation

[@ontherock]

@@valq661 OK, what you typed is a good English transliteration: ha-ma-shi-ach

[@EQOAnostalgia]

Neither. the Y thing is nonsense and points to Yaweh a desert pagan god also known as Enki.

[@ahavayah3]

YAHWEH FATHER, YAHSHUA SON, HALLELU YAH THE NAME YAHSHUA MEANS YAHWEH IS SALVATION REDEMPTION THRU THE BLOOD OF YAHSHUA HA MASHIYAH. CALL ON YAHWEH YAHSHUA AND RECEIVE RUACH HAKODESH. AND BE SAVED, ACTS 2:21, ROM 10:13 ACTS 10:43, JOEL2:32, PS 99:6, IS12:1-4 PS 118:14 YAH IS MY STRENGTH Yahweh Father, Yahshua Son, Hallelu Yah. The name Yahshua means Yahweh is Salvation. Call on Yahweh Yahshua to be saved and filled with The Ruach HaKodesh.

[@senior375]

hi there,just to put you on the right road, Yahuah = the father Yahusha = the son Ruach Hakodesh = the holy spirit yahweh = satan's puppet (yahusha is talking about yahweh in john c8 -v44)😎

[@beandavid3651]

יהושׁע or יְהוֹשֻׁעַ Yehoshua is how linguists told me the way to pronounce the name. . .e name Yehoshua is the same name as Moses' general, Joshua. Odd how English translators never transliterated names.

[@eachotherlive26]

But why do you say YEH? Is it not YAH? I say : "YAHOSHUA

[@ontherock]

Aside from your modifcation of the name "Yehoshua," what are some other Bible names you've learned?

[@KingDivineRuler]

Praise the Almighty: I don’t care what name you employ. It depends on your language. What I care about is following teachings of the Messias 👉🏿👑👈🏿

[@marshon3810]

So Yahweh is pronounced YA and Yahushua is pronounced with YE?

[@ontherock]

The Tetragrammaton is pronounced "Adonai" and the name of Moshe's successor is pronounced "Yehoshua"

[@mellie8875]

But what does Yehoshua mean, because they say that Yahusha means God add Salvation, so what does Yehoshua mean? There is always a meaning to Hebrew names. Thank you.😊

[@samueljennings4809]

I don’t remember the exact name for it, but it’s due to a grammar rule in Hebrew. If the syllable is at the end, it is “-ah”, but if it’s at the beginning it’s “Ye/Yeh-“. There are other examples of how Hebrew does this but i can’t remember them off the top of my head. Maybe someone else can expand on this.

[@ChildoftheMostHigh1]

Does "yeshu" mean to blott out?

[@ontherock]

Hi Ronald, thanks for the question. The "blot out" idea comes from medieval folklore around an acronym of three letters: yod, shin, vav... each being the first letter of a three word sentence (in Hebrew), "may his name and memory be blotted out." So some who say "Yeshu" chuckle to themselves imagining they are uttering a curse against Jesus/Yeshua, as if they know better than others who aren't in on this little "secret." Really just a childish game, nothing real or serious or worth being concerned about. Good question!

[@ChildoftheMostHigh1]

@@ontherock is it okay to accept Jesus as a transliteration then?

[@ontherock]

@@ChildoftheMostHigh1 "Jesus" is the proper English transliteration from the nominative form of the Latin transliteration of the name which sounds like "Yeshua." So yes, "Jesus" is a perfectly good word, and anyone who tells you that it means "hail Zeus" or other nonsense is misinformed.

[@ChildoftheMostHigh1]

@@ontherock what about Dr. Seuss and the "cat" in the hat?

[@ChildoftheMostHigh1]

@@ontherock what do you think about SUNDAY WORSHIP, Roman Catholic church, Constantine, pagan combined with the truth, the "God" of this world, and Freemasonry?

[@NobleStranger69]

Great stuff Rob!!! Keep up good work.

[@mmseekingtruth1961]

Thank you! Even though I used the Strongs, Yah still showed me that it is Yahoshuah and not Yahuah and Yahusha.

[@ontherock]

The best English transliteration for יהושוע is simply "Yehoshua"

[@odanedmcdonald]

Yahushwua or Yahushua (with and without waw) Then as the language developed Yehoshwua or Yehoshwua Then as the language developed (Aramaicised) a short version emerged (related but distinct from the long version, as Robbie is from Robin) Yeshwua Which we often spell as "Yeshua" (since wu and w can make the same oo sound in English)

[@hoseastewart925]

As someone whom is just beginning to study the Hebrew way.. I have heard of Yehoshua/Yeshua. But some people tried to convince me of Yahusha... Thanks much..

[@garywest6890]

Ish means kinda sorta. Gotta move along on that note

[@BubbyPlaisan]

1 You, therefore, have no excuse, you who pass judgment on someone else, for at whatever point you judge another, you are condemning yourself, because you who pass judgment do the same things.

[@ontherock]

Great verse! From Romans. Those who teach non-existent names like Yahusha, Yehovah, Yahua, etc... are either deceived or are liars.

[@yomarbenrey1854]

Does this mean The Mashiach name and the son of Nun, one of the spies is the same? Yehoshua יְהוֹשׁוּעַ

[@ontherock]

Within the Tanakh itself, ישוע (Yeshua) is used as a short form of יהושוע (Yehoshua), referring to the same individual. We see other shortened forms to, like אליה (Eliya) for אליהו (Eliyahu). Same person, short form of their name.

[@murderedadoptees7560]

Wow (or rather wav) Fantastic presentation Rob! Please can you name all the pieces of Scriptures you've displayed here and could you also please date them for us? I've been having difficulties finding that information to present to the "S-H-A people, also Mr.Lew White is showing viewers The Messiah's name in Paleo Hebrew with shin ayin at the end and no wav in between.Do you know where he gets that info from? What is the oldest biblical script found with our Messiah's name in Paleo Hebrew? Do you know? I'd love to donate to you but I don't have Paypal.However, I'll donate money in your name and let you know what the organisations name is! Shalom

[@ontherock]

The oldest Paleo-Hebrew with the name is Exodus fragment from the Hasmonean era (2nd century BC), spelled יהשוע , it's the one I show at around 1:20 mark. Send contributions to: PO Box 1282, Veradale, WA 99037

[@LoveYahuah1]

is Yahua Father God? or is that wrong too?

[@ontherock]

"Yahua" and "Yahwe" and "Yahuwa" and "Yehovah"... these are all recent inventions of men. Admittedly, "Y/Jehovah" is a bit older than the others, maybe 600 or 700 years old. But they're all efforts to innovate religion and to teach beyond what Yeshua, His Apostles, and even the Jewish scribes taught.

[@LoveYahuah1]

@@ontherock so what's the Father's name in hebrew?

[@ontherock]

@@LoveYahuah1 The name of אלהים (Elohim) is יהוה I do not attempt to translate it or transliterate it, other than maybe YHWH

[@mountaintop7683]

Well...I know that the vowel points in the modern hebrew were invented by masoratic scholars. Thery didn't exist in Jesus' days. And you are read יה as "ye", if then how can you read הללויה as HalleluYah meaning "praise Yah"?

[@ontherock]

Thanks for the excellent question! While it's true that the Masoretes were 9th-10th centuries, and that for the last 1,000+ years they've been the Hebrew "standard," quite happily we can go way further back, to 250 BC, and see how these names/words were transliterated into Greek by Jews who knew both languages. 1. "Joshua" יהושוע was Ιησους, starting with "Ye-" 2. "Halleluyah הללויה was Αλληλουια, ending with "-ya" There are bundles of examples of this, so it's not an issue of Masoretic vowel points (although they are largely in agreement!) Shalom, Rob