Yamaha MG VS Mackie ProFx - Livestream USB Mixer Smackdown

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the Mackie Pro FX10v3 is amazing and Im putting it up against the Yamaha MG10XU 10-Channel Mixer with Effects
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[@thomasmaughan4798]

You probably have answer by now but if not, here goes. USB 1&2 is monitoring only; it can only go to headphones and is blended with the bus audio (before the final fader). USB 3&4 is a bus input to the system. If you push the "to phones" button, you are now monitoring the bus audio blended with USB 1&2, thats so you can multi-track and sync yourself to some audio source that you do NOT want in the mix! But USB 3&4 is from the computer and intended for the mix. To hear the mix simply release the "to phones" button and now you are listening to the mixer final output. In the computer you choose which audio output to use and you can have several simultaneously active. The system output should probably be on USB 1&2 so you don't inadvertently get system beeps and notifications in your mix; but sound sources or music sources can be sent to USB 3&4 to become part of the mix which of course is available to the computer via USB input or sound source. The USB to the computer is pre-fader; adjustment of the final mix fader doesn't affect the USB sound source.

[@Drewisgaming]

I have both the yamaha 10xu and the 12xu with a rode podcast dynamic mic with no hissing in the recording. After watching this video a few times I noticed hissing and clipping in the audio on your zoom mixer, which leads me to believe that you don't understand dynamic mic vs a mixer preamp. Running the dynamic through a preamp like a cloud lifter or fathead would give you more headroom on the mic. Which would allow you to use lower gain levels on the mixer. You really shouldn't be going above 0db on the meter, and I bring this up with your obs or recording software in which you recommend bringing the meter to just below the red, and thats bad . The meter should be in the green and some yellow but no more then half way. Sm57 is a good mic but you should also look into a condenser mic as well in which that should help with lowe gains and lower compression. If you set the channel master to the 0 or unity, yamaha has a triangle. Then apply gain when talking into the mic to 0db. Its all about setting up properly. A mute button is a feature you want not necessary. All in all I think that with a different dynamic mic or condenser mic with proper gain levels you would of had a better experience .

[@WorshiptheKingMusic]

Yeah you may be right on a few points.... but this mixer does have very low gain... most of it is solved by going with mackie.... maybe in the end, the preamps in the yamaha are just not as good. I do have a cloudlifter for one of my mics and yes it does allow less gain, but this yamaha does have a less than ideal amount of hiss on most of my mics.

[@mattcero1]

I bought my Yamaha new for $179 and enjoy it immensely.

[@TimVerdouw]

Awesome review, just what I needed thanks. Just purchased the Yamaha and also noticed I had to gain up my mic so much that noise became too loud. Gonna send it back and get the Mackie in return!

[@sheskimusic]

I tried the Yamaha 10 as well as the 12xuf then tried the Mackie Pro 12 version three. Wow! You know what I love about it? The blend knob! I do a lot of my own recording playing various instruments and this knob is great! I also have my turntable and CD player running through this when it’s in my basement. Love this mixer has them beat in this price range. I will be using it for live streaming with my computer and also occasionally my iphone.

[@MichiMallu]

- What do you mean there is no MUTE on Yamaha MG10XU, [STEREO MUTE] on the mixing console is the MUTE button! Check the Owners Manual for more details. If you want MUTE buttons on every channel, that’s different story, but I don’t get the point! - Don’t use the compression on the mic channel, turn it all the way down, adjust the gain/level and you will get enough juice! - I don’t hear any hiss on my headphones, may be you got a bad board! Again check the settings and see if you’ve engaged any unwanted knobs/ buttons - Read the manual and you will get answers to the shortcomings you discussed in this video. - Yamaha MG10XU is one of the best rated mixers and #1 seller in Stage Powered Mixers in Amazon for many years! Also search KZbin and you will get a million reviews praising this mixing console! - If you don’t know how to use a particular equipment, don’t just blame the equipment! And if you like Mackie better, that’s your personal preference and I get it!

[@WorshiptheKingMusic]

Michi Mallu ummmm. Dude. There are no mute buttons on the individual channels and that’s the shortcoming. And I know exactly how to use it. I can’t help mackie just kicked it’s butt all over the place.

[@RevuitNet]

I think this guy works for Yamaha or is trying to justify his purchase

[@djlenzo8683]

I have the mackie profx22v3 and the new Onyx 8, and both of them have more hiss from master output compared to all my yamaha mg series. Will return both.

[@adimax24]

I want to disagree with the Yamaha low mic gain point. I have the smaller MG06XU. At my usual gain/level setting of 1 oclock for gain and 12 oclock for level, I get -10 db avg on Audacity. While my model lacks USB, I use the cheap $45 Behinger UM2 audio interface with its preamp gain set at 0 (lowest possible). Can't imagine the preamp gain being inferior on 10XU. And wondering how could 10XU be so popular if the preamps were so bad!

[@stankostankochunt5837]

Thanks for the vid, but there are a few things you weren't aware of at the time of making it. You have the compact version of the mixer - there is is a fader version of the MG10XU (MG10XUF) that includes mute buttons on every channel. The sound effects on the Yamaha are also infinitely better if you care much about those - there is a better range of options and a parameter nob to fine tune each one. Weirdly, the larger versions of the console beyond 10 are named differently: the larger version with the faders is the default and the compact versions have a K on the end (MG12XUK, MG16XUK etc) - rather confusing! I can't speak much of the pre-amps or headphone output since I'm yet to purchase one, but I have seen reviews from reputable channels that have no quarrel with either - perhaps you are just using hard-to-drive mic and headphones? I intend on using it in combination with a 4 input audio interface so I can track instruments and vocals separately, so I can increase the gain on the interface to compensate for the pre's on the Yamaha if they really aren't sufficient as well as just using the headphone jack on the interface instead. A niggle with the Yamaha is that it apparently gets rather warm after extended use, whereas the Mackie does not, meaning you may have to remember to switch if off when you're done with it to prevent it being a fire hazard. Both the Yamaha and Mackie are good, but excel in different ways.

[@nodaysoff2005]

You are correct. I have the 6 channel and the 12 channel Yamaha and it has all the bells and whistles

[@johngerardmusic7761]

Perhaps you’re not hearing your preamps loud enough on the Yamaha because you have the master ‘Level Stereo’ knob turned down to low. In the video it is turned all the way down. I believe these preamps have 64 db of gain. That should be plenty.

[@WorshiptheKingMusic]

maybe but I think its just that they need to be all cranked and they seem noisy... so I did stay with the mackie for now.

[@forofen]

Hello. Wich is better? Onyx 12 or profx12v3+? Thanks.

[@MS-nj9le]

The mackie doesn't have a modfier knob for the effects, which make the effects far more limited than on the Yamaha.

[@stevespatafore2216]

Why didn't u compare the yamaha MG10-12 UF tot the mackie pro..you really didn't compare closer model of yamaha..

[@WorshiptheKingMusic]

They are the ones that I had in my studio at the time

[@MegaBobby1984]

If you turn the mix nob for live sound and usb sound put that to the right when you are going in to your pc or it will make a double sound

[@MS-nj9le]

I don't use quarter inch or XLR or anything. I use all RCA jack stuff. Which mixer should I get?

[@MatsBP]

I only know how to do it on Mac! If you want to use the last channel (7/8) to get you computer audio through on the profxv3, Go to Audio MIDI Setup, press ProFX and (configure speakers) then change it to analog 3 and 4 instead of 1 and 2. Make sure to have the L-R button pressed so it sends to it to the MAIN. Also have it set to TO PHONES and not CONTROL ROOM on the mixer. There you go!

[@ashtoronto88]

hello...Which one is a good option for me that I am a keyboard player for small parties?? and also for Connecting my iphone ?durability ??

[@WorshiptheKingMusic]

I love the mackie!

[@Kirito_Kirigaya_2023]

You must press the USB 3-4 button. Edit. For podcasters, the Mackie pro 6v3

[@shalaby6653]

Yamaha AG06 vs Mackie ProFX6v3 which is better?

[@Joey.Darkwoods-Studio]

I agree.... the MG is one of the nicest looking boards.

[@molotulo8808]

Mackie sucks. They sent me 3 defective units! First ProFX22v3 had a broken master volume slider. So, they sent me a replacement, but it had a blown out right VU meter. I returned it back to Guitar Center and they sent me another replacement ,but it also had a blown out right VU meter...I am now taking it back to Guitar Center but I will not get Mackie. The Mackie has the best features but they sell broken units. Don't buy Mackie unless it's Guitar Center's fault...what do you all think..

[@aldyferns1115]

Can u please make a video comparing the effects of yamaha and mackie? Specially the reverbs this would be a great idea for a singer to chose finally what to go for. Thanks.. i feel yamaha effect 6 is the best reverb as i own one.. but plan to buy the mackie and seriously curious to know what effect would sound good on me..

[@One-Eyed-Willly]

I have the Yamaha mg10xu all you points but what you hear can be solved with the preamp "Fethead or sE TNT", also adjustment level on channel 9/10. The head phone jack does annoy me with the noise. It is a bummer that I have to use a preamp but also on my scarlet 2i2 I have to crank up the gain to Max but then it inderduces noise. I am using the Sure sm48 mic.

[@djmickeyTV]

What are your thoughts on the one knob compressor on both devices?

[@mtae5]

Did you figure out the usb coming back to the mackie? I only hear it from the headphone and not the main outs. Can't figure that out.

[@thomasmaughan4798]

USB 1&2 go ONLY to the headphones via the blend knob and the "to phones" monitoring switch. USB 3&4 go to the mix and appear in final output. To hear 3&4 release the "to phones" but it also ought to appear when "to phones" is pressed and the blend at top so the audio bus is heard. In the computer, choose USB 3&4 as the output destination for things you want going to the mixer.

[@user-vi1hg4sr1w]

i tried to record voice through the yamaha 12 but it turned out so low. I happened to see your channel recommend zoom livetrak L-12 to record clear sound, so I bought that and recorded voice through channels 1 and 2 with HZ and they were quite clear. but the recorded sound through channels 3-8 was low. Is there anyway to raise the sound?

[@TheYesterdayTodayRadio]

I have the same problem you highlighted. I cannot get the computer audio in the MackIe. Please let me know when you have the solution!

[@Whyme103]

What I did is take a couple of trs 1/4 cables plug in the control room outputs and plugged them into the line inputs on which ever channel and you can get sound using the master fader and sub outputs and master outputs, if that helps.

[@sandeepecrc]

Thanks sir,Pl.suggest me which has more gain during home studio.i want to use more for live performance along with home studio.which one will better in comparison with input gain in computer as we know low input gain in Yamaha.Has Mackie console have quite decent input gain like scarlet interface.sir pl suggest me .I am going to purchase in this week but I am very confused between focusrite ,Yamaha Mg10x and Mackie pro10

[@kimvo5090]

Thank you for your information about this mixer before I buying

[@WorshiptheKingMusic]

Glad it was helpful!

[@0072gldnfngr]

They should hire you! Lol I was on the fence and you revealed some really good info that tipped me to the Mackie! Did you ever figure out the loop back function?

[@djkelvinog]

Thanks for the review. I also returned the one I bought because the sound quality is so bad compared to my mackie 1402vlz4

[@paulheitkemper1559]

gain structure- you probably needed to turn up the Windows sound device.

[@crashcadet]

Ironic that there is a low hissing noise in the background. Maybe the computer fan.

[@mikel9319]

They probably told you a million times already: USB return is on channel 5/6 if you hit the right button. If not channel 5/6 it might be on other channels.

[@stevencaldeira5]

Love the video, which is a better product, Mackie profx12v3 Or the behringer qx1222? Which would you suggest?

[@WorshiptheKingMusic]

both of those mixers you mention are great.... its going to be personal choice but I love my Pro FX... I have friends who have the beheinger and its very good and clean too

[@djjammindave]

THANK YOU FOR CONFIRMING MY PURCHASE. AFTER SERIOUS CONSIDERATION IN PRICE AND FEATURES I WENT WITH THE MACKIE. THANKS, AGAIN...

[@EstudioPaisagemSonora]

Obrigado pelas dicas!!!

[@idesignwithchristine5276]

What’s the best mic and headphone for mackie? Looking to buy one of profx6v3 to use for singing on livestream

[@thomasmaughan4798]

I bought two Shure SM58's for that exact mixer. I have to set the gain a bit high but then I'm not singing. If I were louder (singing!) straight up on the gain knobs would be just right.

[@idesignwithchristine5276]

@@thomasmaughan4798 thank you so much, I’m thinking to buy either SM58 or rode NT1A. Basically I would like to sing and play a guitar as well but I only have acoustic guitar not electric. Do you think it will work with SM58? Sorry for loads of questions just bought them mackie today now I’m confused what mic to buy because I only have usb yeti mic 😂

[@thomasmaughan4798]

@@idesignwithchristine5276 A nice property of dynamic microphones such as Shure SM58 is they don't "clip" on loud signals. The microphone pre-amp might clip but the microphone won't. The Mackie reportedly has tremendous signal handling capability so it is also unlikely to clip. The SM58 is also cardiod directional; nearly complete cutoff to the rear, pretty good pickup from side and front. Rode is also extremely popular but I do not have personal experience with that brand. Rode tends to be used more for videography and the Shure SM58 and similar extremely popular with the sorts of recording you describe; instruments and vocals. The SM58 is pretty heavy, built to drive nails if you don't need it for recording stuff.

[@DjSmoothNY]

I use mine for broadcasting internet radio and channel 3-4 button has to be on to get audio into the mixer. Channel 1-2 works when you depress the blend button but I think it’s flawed. You basically take send the computers source to line 1-2 in your audio settings. That’s how you get it into 1-2 and 3-3-4. A bit confusing but it does work.

[@thomasmaughan4798]

The block diagram is helpful. USB 1&2 is ONLY for monitoring, it is not part of the mix! It is there so you can synchronize yourself for karaoke or multi-track recording. USB 3&4 is included in the mix. But you push a button to activate it and in mine it disables the 3.5mm 5/6 line input, but that's okay I just use 3/4 for line input from music device.

[@DjSmoothNY]

@@thomasmaughan4798 Yes your correct. On mine which is the ProFX V10 when I press the button to off on line 9/10 it disables the 3-4 input which I'm using to stream audio my radio station. I really thought usb-1-2 was another audio input source lol. You just helped me understand that it's for monitoring though.

[@leezonggeng]

Thank you for this! Very helpful!

[@notestorm5970]

usb thru button should signal back to over dub

[@WorshiptheKingMusic]

Ahhh yes thank you.

[@JamesdeChrist]

push down usb3/4 button to on

[@dawlesspuzzle]

I want ask you, can you compare sound processing between Mackie vs Zoom L12 ? My goal is to achieve clear sound from the main output. I will connect into mix synthezer and drumchine and samplers. Thank you.

[@AT-wl9yq]

The Zoom doesn't support midi. If you are going to link all those devices, I would want it. Have a look at the Tascam model 12.

[@Lovestarlucky143]

I have Mackie profx10v3 and two big problem in it's effect engine 💀😓 (1) There's no parameter knob on this audio mixer so You Really Can't Control how much delay it apply on Your Microphone and instrument 🎸💀 You can only control the volume level of any effect 😏 (2) i Really Don't know why but this mixers Effect knob also Control Volume Level of Each Channels.💀😌 So it means When You Decrease the Efforts knob It automatically Decrease the Volume of that Channel 👽🙄🤦 And if you off the effect engine it automatically cut 50% of Volume on Every Channel 😢

[@ronnienichols8401]

I returned my Yamaha also for the same reason .. completely disappointed ... my smaller, older Mackie, compact mixer was way cleaner coming out of my pa speakers so I can only imagine if i was trying to use it for recording! ugh

[@WorshiptheKingMusic]

yeah, it was shocking

[@derrickthomas3236]

Can you use this with Serato Pro Dj. I wanna hook my phone up for live phone calls. Can this happen with the Mackie and Serato Pro Dj together? 🤔

[@WorshiptheKingMusic]

I would say with the right cables yes.

[@AT-wl9yq]

If you get a mixer like this one, connect your controller to the inputs of the new mixer. It works just like any other line level source.

[@murphtv.]

Mackie are HORRIBLE for live performances.

[@craigmcgill4612]

Why? A just got one what do you not like about mackie

[@aliciaeinstein5673]

you cant even get your own audio right, homie. its out of sync

[@kaybhee6]

goot,,, noise,,, gain,,,, tone,,,, most important

[@dawlesspuzzle]

thank you for your video

[@harlandcappal4793]

You just based your conclusions on your own observations, you can consult a qualified tech on things you dont know.

[@WorshiptheKingMusic]

I figured out why I don’t like the Yamaha.

[@djjammindave]

ACTUALLY, THAT'S ONE OF THE BIGGEST FLAWS OF THE YAMAHA...NOT LOUD ENOUGH. I SAW A REVIEW OF THE YAMAHA AND THE MACKIE HEAD TO HEAD, I WAS SOLD OUT WITH THE YAMAHA FOR THAT ALONE, AND THE MUTE BUTTONS....SO I WENT I BOUGHT ME ONE WICH IS A LOT SHIPPER THAN THE YAMAHA.

[@NocturnosRockShow]

I didn't know you could use OBS on mac... ha! cool