Yamaha MT-10 SP First Ride Review

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** It has come to my attention that despite asking for a standard MT-10, the idiot salesman has given me an SP model without telling me. So this bike actually costs almost 17,000€. Also the standard MT-10 doesn’t have the colour TFT or the electronically controlled Öhlins suspension. **
Yamaha MT-10. 998cc of Crossplane Four cylinder wheely pulling monstrousness!
Curious to see how much improvement Yamaha have made since 2006 when Yamaha first robbed the engine from an R1 and made my FZ1, I swung a leg over an MT-10 and went for a blast!
Still sharing the engine from the current R1, the MT-10 has 160bhp and 111Nm of torque to play with, but in a more ergonomically relaxed and considerably more comfortable layout.
So stay tuned and see how I get on with this notoriously feisty Master of Torque!!
This video was in NO way supported or endorsed by Yamaha. I even had to pay for the petrol myself!! But then that shows just how much value the German dealerships put on making potential customers enjoy their experience!! 🤣🤣 #SalesFail
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[@msrcracing8387]

Cheers from NY long island I just purchased a 2019 MT-10 and its just crazy fun and fast . Thanks for the review. I didn't know there was ab SP model.

[@AndyManCam]

I can totally imagine! My pleasure mate, thanks for watching! Enjoy that MT!

[@msrcracing8387]

@@AndyManCam I will thanks and stay safe

[@bccapone837]

I just sold my fz1n and got an mt10 and what a beast , the only down fall is I'm constantly looking at the sky 😆

[@aspectcarl]

Great review 👍 I love my 08 Fz1s and I love the Mt10. I bought mine as an insurance CAT N write OFF, cost me £2k plus £750 to get it back into its previous condition, we rode it to Romania week before last and our asses were truly sad long before the journey completed 😂, but it didn't miss a beat, from beating it down the autobahn through to the twisty hills of Transylvania, long live the unloved FZ1 for cheap parts and it's performance is brilliant 👍

[@AndyManCam]

The bang for buck of the FZ1 simply cannot be argued with!! I'd struggle to justify the cost of a new bike, when the one that I have is already so good!

[@BikersGarage101]

Not my type of bike but I definitely love these reviews and rides. Damn! So many bells and whistles that you get for little over €13K compared to the stupid prices HD has for practically no extras!!! Thanks for sharing Andy

[@AndyManCam]

Cheers mate! It has got a LOT of toys!! It’s also pretty well finished off too, except for that rubbish silver trim and the shiny buttons!! same price for a Triumph Speed triple mind....

[@alexmorgan3435]

HD?

[@BikersGarage101]

@@alexmorgan3435 yep

[@AndyManCam]

HD = Harley Davidson.

[@BikersGarage101]

@@AndyManCam bingo! Nothing like a HOG!

[@onyekaonyia8395]

Hallelujah !!! A new bike review! Nice one Andy.

[@AndyManCam]

My pleasure! Enjoy! The Suzuki GSX-S1000 one is also on the way!

[@dmac7660]

I owned a first gen FZ1 which was a fantastic bike - comfortable, powerful, great handling. Then I had a first gen MT 09 which was OK but not the whole package. Now I have a MT 10 and it's like the FZ1 all over again but better. Still comfortable, still a monster engine but with more of everything. This bike will wheelie off the throttle in 3rd gear - something my FZ1 would only dream about. The MT 10 has an electronic steering damper and that feature helps it to remain stable when the riding gets heated. I love the cruise control on boring stretches. My bike is the one with matte grey and yellow wheels so no silver clashing to cause offence. Not to be forgotten is the reliable Yamaha build quality. The valves don't have to be done until 40 000 km or more. A fantastic bike and a keeper!

[@AndyManCam]

Very true, there's a lot to love! Hopefully there won't be any nasty Yamaha laziness surprises like with the rotor design of the FZ1. That and the disaster surrounding cracked frame welds has put a long lasting black mark over Yamaha for me. Not because of the problems, that's just a fact of life with mass manufacture. But rather how Yamaha buried it's head in the sand, denied all the problems and expected the customers to foot the bill. Bad practice indeed!

[@dmac7660]

Yes - I heard about the frame crack problem - not Yamaha's best moment. My bike was a first generation model that preceded your line (it had carburetors) and didn't have any major design flaws. I think Yamaha changed significantly when it engineered the MT line starting with the MT09. Their designs became more considered and better geared to the things that enthusiasts love with an eye on value. I don't blame you for feeling burned by the frame cracking issue but the new bike lines are reliable. Hopefully they have learned.

[@AndyManCam]

I hope so too. Though i think I’ll be with the Honda for quite a while yet!

[@simonfowler7561]

Ello Andy, good review thanks. I just bought an MT10SP and I love it! I have had 4 R1s including an amazing track bike, now that I am too old to lie down on a bike I find the MT10 amazing fun. I used the modes to ride her home before I got to know that amazing engine, now I am back up to full power and wow. I bought her in the UK and rode down to Roma, lovely bike, very stable at speed and really has no faults EXCEPT the engine heating up as soon as you slow down, she just wants to go fast!!!

[@MyRandomLife247]

This is the MT-10SP, they do make the standard MT-10 where you might like the looks a lot better. I'm buying one of these in August, so excited! That motor is to die for!

[@AndyManCam]

I realise that now 🤦🏻‍♂️. Yet another fine case of German salesmen completely ignoring what the customer asks for and doing what they think is best. He also misinformed me about how the modes worked. Very disappointing service!! The motor IS fabulous though!

[@MyRandomLife247]

@@AndyManCam Lol, remember how you said you'd carry the FZ flame :P. I'm probably gonna get a blue one or the SP. The FZ1 is very old school though but so versatile. I still stand by and say that it's one of the best sounding standard inline fours!

[@AndyManCam]

Oh don’t worry. I’ll be carrying the FZ flame for some time yet!! Just ordered a few upgrades to further increase my love for the old girl!

[@chiewwwy_]

We both watching mt10 reviews.. it's happening!! Lol

[@MyRandomLife247]

motolife.au Let’s see who gets theirs first!

[@Englishbikerdan]

Hey Andy, just found your channel in my recommended list. I test rode the standard MT10 last year and found it a real hoot! Lovely review, very nice and full of useful information. Great work! Subbed. EBD

[@AndyManCam]

Hi Dan. Thanks mate and welcome aboard!

[@brucefogarty7052]

great Vid Andy - really pleasure to watch you stuff - cheers

[@AndyManCam]

Cheers very much Bruce!

[@ericppagel]

Great video Andy, cool that you got out on that beast, sounds awesome! That’s a scary price tag though, Yikes ! FZ1 is way sharper looking, and now we get more AMC garage vids Hooray 😃 Cheers!

[@AndyManCam]

Cheers Eric. There’s a whole bevy of garage videos coming mate! I’ve got wider bars, steel brake lines, carbon slip on and I’m going to redo the tank in brushed black steel look! 😃

[@MOTOUK1]

Had my SP for two years and yes Ecu flash makes it awesome. Best bike I have had in 20 years. They do a black MT10 Andy 👍

[@GIGABACHI]

You said HAD . . . why don't you have it anymore ? 🤨

[@AndyManCam]

I thought as much. I can imagine it was a formidable weapon of a bike!

[@MOTOUK1]

No still have kzbin.info/www/bejne/l4vdlmN8pKqcqKc

[@GIGABACHI]

@@MOTOUK1 Ahhh...👌. I need to own one of those sometime...mpg be damned.😑

[@AndyManCam]

I said goodbye to MPG the day I first got a 1000cc! :D

[@markosrides]

The only thing I can understand being adjustable are TC and possible lean angle ABS, maybe just for adverse weather conditions riding. The throttle, not so much... Great video as always mate! Cheers!

[@AndyManCam]

Cheers Marko. Exactly. The throttle is the thing that should be doing all of the fueling adjustments!!

[@alexmorgan3435]

Loved your pebble versus brick analogy. Lol! A geology lesson in a bike review. Awesome.

[@AndyManCam]

Thanks Alex. No idea where that came from!

[@SmokinZen]

I have the 2017 I love how it can do just about anything and has lots of good accessories for it

[@AndyManCam]

Very much like the FZ1 that it replaces. A batshit crazy engine and a very useable frame platform. Sports nakeds are the ONLY way to go, in my opinion!!

[@lucyferina]

The modes are standard which is what you use when commuting and easy riding, A slightly more aggressive, and B which is aptly nicknamed Beast mode, on the mt09 they are switched to standard, B slightly more aggressive, and A which is the Mt09s beast mode, the traction control levels are 1, 2,3, and off I’m not sure about the order but it goes something like full control, less control, and rain mode and no traction control on the last one I believe both bikes have the same order, I have both but I bought them new in 2017, they spent a lot of time stored due to winter, then moving, so both of them have about 500 miles each, I’m getting to ride them more now. Both are great bikes but very different when riding them. The mt10 is just pure power, the mt09 seems more relaxed and fun, I couldn’t decide which one I liked best so I bought both.....

[@AndyManCam]

BOUGHT BOTH! Awesome!! That really is the best of both worlds!

[@board.member]

A very engaging, natural style of reviewing. Thanks mate.

[@AndyManCam]

Thanks BM. Very kind of you to say so.

[@petej7534]

Bloody great review. So professional that I often felt like I was watching Top Gear for motorbikes. Worth buying over the Super Duke do you reckon? Definitely subscribing. 👍🏼

[@AndyManCam]

Many, many thanks indeed Pete. I'm afraid I couldn't actually say, as I've never ridden a Superduke! KTM in Hamburg took my number, and never called me back!

[@negenelf123]

I rode both , myself I prefer the R1 engine , that crossplane is something special , although the Superduke is faster and more torque available , but pure fun I choose the mt-10 certainly the sp , infact I just bought one :)

[@darylclifford]

Watched a few of your vlogs, and thought I’d tell you I like your presentation style! Cheers from Australia 🇦🇺🤙

[@AndyManCam]

Thank you very much for taking the time to say so Daryl. Very much appreciated.

[@pudsboi5203]

Absolute brilliant bike, test rode 3 times because i couldn't make my mind up between this and the 09sp. Actually went with the 09sp in the end

[@AndyManCam]

I can imagine that would be a tough choice! I reckon I could be swayed by the MT-09 too. Plenty of poke, slightly different engine character and far more reasonable price! Oh and it looks pretty friggin cool too!!

[@sullybiker6520]

Really enjoyed this, Andy. When I saw the obviously off-seasonal appearance i thought "Oh my God, he's gone and bought one!" :) As for modes, I absolutely agree. I don't like anything that changes the throttle mapping, as familiarity and musclue memory with this is such a big part of controlling a powerful bike.

[@AndyManCam]

Cheers mate. Don’t worry, no funds for that kind of frivolity!! Plus I don’t think I could justify it over my trusty FZ1!

[@Viper6-MotoVlogger]

The thing that sucks about the MT-10, is that it came out the year after I purchased my FJ-09. I mould have waited for the this bike if I would have known.

[@AndyManCam]

That is annoying!! Maybe it’s time for a trade up?!

[@fountainofyouth5]

Totally agree about the modes thing. One of the reasons I fell in love with motorcycles to begin with was the raw, pure, "free" feeling you get when you ride one. I want to do the work. I want to control the ride. Not a computer. I'm definitely no fan of all the crazy electronics these days. Also, when it breaks, you're going to have to sell a kidney to pay the technician bill

[@AndyManCam]

Totally. I think there has to be some middle ground, where the modes are there, but they're more seamlessly and invisibly integrated.

[@fountainofyouth5]

@@AndyManCam I guess part of it for me is, I don't understand the desire to lay out the cash for a 150+ hp fire breather, then due to the "advanced safety features (training wheels) only use 100 of those horses. Why not save yourself some cash and just get a bike with 100 hp to begin with? I guess it's not as cool...seems silly to me.

[@inplainsight2482]

It’s got a drink problem for sure > 29L in 380 kilometres is only 37mpg average! My BMW R1200rs would cover 600 kilometres (more if I’m just cruising) on those same 29L ... Great fun (bonkers) bike though, I got the opportunity to ride one myself a couple of weeks ago! I only averaged 33mpg in my hour of testing it!..😳 Yep the front wheel definitely doesn’t like the tarmac very much, especially in A-Mode - kept coming up on me over ‘every little ridge’ in the road at speed!! 😄 Proper hooligan bike. 👍🏻 I’ve still got to try an MT09sp, before I make my final decision on which shall be my second “play bike”....

[@AndyManCam]

That’s going to be a toughie I think. Raw crazy power or highly addictive grunty torque in a wonderfully chuckable chassis!? And on the MT09 i think you might only have to stop at every OTHER petrol station!!

[@samuelgillard2196]

Nice review. I found the seat weird too when I test rode one. You called your bike a Fazer but the Fazer is the half faired version. If they did a half faired version of the MT10 I'd definitely consider one.

[@AndyManCam]

Yeah I know. Force of habit. Though it is the same bike, just with a different face. I think the MT-10 has got enough plastic on it already!! 😂

[@saltire546]

Having tested one of these i did prefer it to the Bmw 1000r although the Bmw was cheaper than the SP .I would agree no need for all these different modes just get it correct and one would suffice .

[@AndyManCam]

It was definitely a bit more fun to chuck around than the humourless Bavarian horse! I’m looking forward to the day when a manufacturer puts out a bike with perfect fuelling as stock.

[@luqman1994]

Hi Andy, I am a fz1 rider too. Honestly with your current fz1 do you feel like you need to upgrade to this model? The fz1 is a nice bike and with a tune and the right parts on it, it's pretty hard to justify an upgrade in my opinion to any other inline 4 or twin street bike.

[@AndyManCam]

Hey Luqman. My feelings exactly mate. This was more out of curiosity than anything and you’re so right. All I need is an ECU retune and a hi flow air filter and I’ll have a bike almost as formidable as the MT-10 but for less than a third of the price! I was wondering what I could maybe consider as a next ride, and there just isn’t really anything that excites me enough to go through the faff and Stress of changing!!

[@luqman1994]

@@AndyManCam I think as fz1 riders, it's quite hard to justify for an upgrade. My fz1 has a leo vince sbk slip-on with a high flow air filter. All that I'm left with is the tune and a dyno. It probably will match up with any modern street bike at 1/3 the price or lesser :) Do make a video when you tune and dyno yours!

[@AndyManCam]

I’ve just ordered a BMC filter, but the dyno could be a sticking point as it has to be a TÜV approved tune to be road legal here in Germany. 😔 But totally agree. It’s an underrated all round superstar of a bike!!

[@luqman1994]

Mate, just did an ecu flash with map. Solves every issue with the throttle. The engine is alot cooler right now. The engine is alot quieter too with a richer fuel and air ratio. Im able to red line every single gear and its just a beast. I dont think there is a lot of difference with your exhuast gas tho

[@Banditmanuk]

Bet you can guess what bike I've got from the channel ID. Had it 3 years, fantastic bike. Never use any mode other than standard. Suits the larger gentleman better than the S1000R in my opinion. Biggest downside is its major league thirsty.

[@GIGABACHI]

"... Biggest downside is its major league thirsty..." I keep hearing the same negative . . . so many people can't be wrong.😞👎

[@AndyManCam]

I can certainly imagine mate. Seems the riding modes and mapping settings is a bit of a gimmick to avoid having to actually perfect the single mode. A bit of us being told what we want, rather than being given what we want!

[@AndyManCam]

Yeah it certainly seems that smooth power comes at a cost!!

[@rgthomson100]

If your FZ1 has terrible fueling fit the power commander, i did this with my 2008 and it took a few go's with the mapping but once i got it it was sorted

[@AndyManCam]

The problem with the Power Commander fix, is that it adjusts the percentages of fuel that's already being sent into the engine by the injectors. With the fuel cut over 4500 rpm, the injectors are switched off completely. So the powercommander can't do anything to add more fuel, because 100% of nothing is still nothing. It's an issue that can only really be fixed in the ECU.

[@BKLYF]

The R1 crossplane engine sounds more like the VFR, tuono/RSV4!

[@AndyManCam]

All pretty tasty sounding machines!!

[@SmokinZen]

CDA441 Sounds better to me

[@CPUspeed]

Well if no one else is going to mention it, and I’m insanely jealous cause not sold in US, that’s the SP model with Öhlins suspension. Definitely get the SP if you can. In the base model too much power for the suspension. Novice riders won’t know or care. With that said love my base MT10. I do use mode 2 in the winter, find it smoother in the twisties, and for videos 😉

[@AndyManCam]

I’m not sure I’m expert enough to tell the difference. Would be nice to try to find out. I can totally understand that you’d love your MT mate. I wouldn’t complain if it was the bike I had! Just not enough improvement to persuade me to sleep with my bank manager to finance it! 😂

[@CPUspeed]

Andy Man Cam Btw I weigh 200lbs. Base suspension fine for 150-160lb riders.

[@AndyManCam]

Turns out that I actually didn’t know I had the SP model here (stupid salesman) so that would explain why I though the suspension was fine for my 95kg / 210ibs ! D‘oh!!

[@CPUspeed]

Andy Man Cam Oh no worries. When people cross shop, they read the comments. Just wanted to say... get the SP if you can. And you reviewed it so cool.

[@AndyManCam]

Thanks mate. Good to hear, despite my apparent cluelessness! I suppose this makes it a blind trial though, right?!

[@Baphomet_biker]

No need to stop to change modes, just shut the throttle and change. I just keep mine in power mode 1 and traction control 1, once you get used to the throttle it's fine.

[@AndyManCam]

I tried that, and it didn’t seem to work. Must have been doing something wrong! I’ve been trying to get used to the throttle on my FZ1 for years. I have, but it still doesn’t make it nice to ride. In my opinion, smooth throttle response is one of the fundamentals of a motorbike. If they can’t make that work, then they should put a pin in all of the other developments until they can.

[@Baphomet_biker]

@@AndyManCam ye I agree, it seem like they don't really care about developing the throttle response, from what I understand it's something to do with emissions. Apparently a remap fixes most of it but at our expense, I will be getting the fueling done when I decat it. But to be honest I only really notice the snatchy throttle at slow speed. Are you looking to buy one?

[@AndyManCam]

Nooooo! I was just curious to see how much better a newer version of my bike is. Seems that some manufacturers have made a better job of throttle response, without failing emissions. Triumph seems to have done a good job from my tiger 800 test ride a while back. Can’t be that difficult. The biggest problem it seems is the deceleration cut over 4500rpm. Makes getting back on the gas mid corner a very sketchy affair. Not sure if it’s exactly the same on the newer bikes. Didn’t have time to really test it.

[@neilt1889]

All MT10s need a Woolwich remap to get rid of the on off throttle then they are a real pleasure i have done a de.cat and a scorpion gr1 can but enjoy your vlogs

[@AndyManCam]

Thanks Neil! That's the best bit, isn't it? making the bike perfect and feeling proud when you do. Shame that they don't come like that from the factory, but good that it is possible to perfect them!

[@christianweller4288]

A very good FZ 1 can be scored for 4 grand or a new MT for about 12 with no extras...... it's no contest. That 8k would buy a lot of petrol, coffee, cakes and peace of mind.

[@AndyManCam]

Agreed. Almost immediately after this test I ordered braided lines, BMC air filter and I’m considering a comfort seat!! And still 8 grand better off than if I bought one of these!

[@christianweller4288]

@@AndyManCam BYO MT-10... :D

[@AndyManCam]

Absolutely!! Need to get an ECU flash to really release the beast though!

[@christianweller4288]

​ Holy crap-a-rama, just realised that was the SP! 16 big ones... how can anyone afford this stuff?

[@AndyManCam]

You and me both mate! Would have been nice if the salesman to mention that I was riding something 3000€ more than what I asked to test!! Idiot!!

[@BlueMarbleRider]

Great review, thanks AMC. Agree with the throttle modes - just don't want them. ABS/TC sure. Nice bike, better than the MT09-didn't like the MTO9 riding position, but found the XSR900 the bike o the bunch. Got a little chuckle with "rocket up the arse kind of feeling" twinned with "it's a lot fatter"...

[@AndyManCam]

Haha! Glad to have brought a chuckle on! I really like the look of the XSR too. All except for that horrible clock!

[@Robvdh87]

Always nice when your videos start with a look at the speedo. "wow, he's giving it some beans" and then I notice you're actually driving on the right.. "ah, Germany again" 🤣 but that's what you get for not watching your videos chronologically

[@AndyManCam]

Haha! I hadn't really considered that before! Maybe I should call out a disclaimer at the beginning to keep folk's blood pressure down!?

[@Wave1dave]

Fun fact: The license plate SERU at 2:50 means "I'm taking a sh*t" in czech.

[@AndyManCam]

Poetry in motion.

[@markdennis930]

'That sweet spot, somewhere between an inline four and a twin'. Yep, that will be a triple then. Try the MT09/Tracer, and prepare to fall in love.

[@AndyManCam]

Yamaha MT-09 Tracer Ride Review kzbin.info/www/bejne/eqKXiX6hecSjebM it was good, but love might be a bit strong! 😜

[@luisdetomaso2224]

MT09 engine is great, but you'd need to invest a couple grand to bring the garbage stock suspension anywhere close to MT10 level

[@craigmorrison7937]

Good review Andy 👍

[@AndyManCam]

Thanks ver much Craig!

[@falseneutral7890]

Is it just me or this thing sounds like a V4? Also i get your complain about the throttle response on your one bike, i've had a '06 FJR1300 with similar problem it was just on or off with not much in between, downright dangerous especially in wet. PC5 was a good cure. And lastly if you're looking for a sweet spot between 2 and 4 cylinders you should get a Triumph triple, but be aver it is highly addictive 😉 Good vid again, keep them coming it has been a while.

[@AndyManCam]

I was actually thinking of having a little blast on a speed triple as soon as conditions allow. On paper, it looks like it should be a very enjoyable ride!

[@falseneutral7890]

Andy Man Cam just do it man, but judging by how tall you are i thing it will be too small for you. Try the Tiger 1050 Sport as well i thing that's the right size bike for you. Am 188cm and riding currently my ultimate dream bike the '12 Explorer 1200 fits like glow 😎 the only reason i didn't get the Sport was, i hate chains. With my 25.000km/year average a shaft drive is the way to go.

[@AndyManCam]

That is my fear. It’s a pretty small bike. Not sure I like the look of the Tiger Sport, but maybe in the interest of science!

[@beersandburgers7392]

Great Review! Too many choppy edits though and the camera is jumping a lot. Great content though :)

[@AndyManCam]

Cheers mate! Sadly that’s a combo of excitement and heavily restricted time! Couldn’t do the relaxed review I’d have preferred!

[@pjbaddict]

You need to ride Shaun’s Superduke if you can prise it of him for an hour... if you cant you can try mine when I’m over in the Black Forest later this year

[@AndyManCam]

I don’t think i could bear the possibility of telling a mate that I’ve thrown his pride and joy on the floor!

[@mishko01]

The Suzuki GSX-S 1000 sounds sweeter and fueled like a dream compared to this Yamaha, which like the Kawasaki utterly suck when you open and close the throttle. I had the chance to ride all three back to back.

[@AndyManCam]

Totally agree. The fueling of the suzuki was far superior.

[@alanedwards3180]

But boring

[@MOTOUK1]

All that stopping, just close the throttle and change power, TCS & suspension on the fly while riding

[@AndyManCam]

Another fine case of misinformation from know-it-all salesmen. I’m losing interest in test rides over here because I always look like an idiot when I do as the supposedly informed salesman tells me. Also I didn’t even know that I had the SP version. #SalesFail

[@lambo2817]

You know you getting one!

[@AndyManCam]

Haha! Not this season. Maybe if I discover the lost treasure of the Sierra Madré during my yearly garage clean up! 😂

[@lambo2817]

I come give you a hand and find it together

[@AndyManCam]

Im not sure if manpower is the problem! But thanks anyway. I’ll stick the coffee on!!

[@NZsarge1]

This is the bike I always hoped Yamaha would build when I had my FZ1 S

[@AndyManCam]

I actually believe that once its ‚sorted‘ the FZ1 could he a better bike! Apart from that awesome sound of the CP4 motor!! Plus new is always a bit more exciting!

[@NZsarge1]

Andy Man Cam Yeah there’s certainly nothing too wrong with a FZ1 the time, effort and money couldn’t sort as in making it from a really good bike into a really great bike. There were a could of moments where the speed versus the road I was traveling had my chassis tied in knots but only briefly, ultimately I would’ve liked to the suspension and perhaps a steering damper but I think the basics of the bike are excellent, the only thing I really would’ve liked was some added bottom end torque which is why I coveted the CP4 motor so much and essentially the MT10, although I’ve come to like it (MT10) I still think the FZ1 N and S are better looking bikes, give them a freshen up with leds etc, the CP4 motor and the upgraded suspension and electronics and it’d be a nicer bike than the MT but you know, blah, blah, blah and all that lol

[@AndyManCam]

I totally agree! An FZ1N with Öhlins shocks, CP4 engine and LED lights in the same vane as the MT-09 would be an absolute stonker! But that’s just because we like the slightly more timeless naked bike looks. Whereas Yamaha is pushing the Transformer style quite hard at the moment. 🤖

[@adriandarby9518]

Hey Andy. My one and only concern is engine vibration when on constant throttle cruising. Which one is smoother the mt10 or the fz1. Not the engine thumping feeling, the annoying BUZZ feeling. good vid cheers.

[@AndyManCam]

Hard to say Adrian. But mainly because I couldn’t really tell you any difference between them! Both engines very smooth on constant throttle.

[@adriandarby9518]

Thanks Andy

[@ItsBeenDanBefore]

Two things I hate about the MT series, based primarily off my MT 125 but also seeing them on the other MTs and trying them: 1, the suede seat is horrible. May be just grippy enough, but if a single drop of water touches it when I'm not on it, my ass is gonna feel the wetness when I sit on the seat. Plus, they're way too firm for anything more than a short commute or quick blast. Doing 120 miles in one day hurts because of the seat. And 2, the resued mirrors. They are incredibly ugly and are barely useful. That's why I blanked mine off and got bar end mirrors. Also, just outta curiosity, will you be doing any reviews or rides on any 125s? Cheers

[@AndyManCam]

That’s the danger of a short test ride. No way to tell how things are on a longer ride. Totally agree with the mirrors. They’d be switched out ASAP!! No 125 Test rides planned I’m afraid. I’d be giving a totally biased and unfair opinion as I’m used to the bigger engine. I try to ride things that I at least know a little bit about!

[@CeeRTee]

Did 460 miles on mine in a day last month without an issue. The suspension is fully adjustable so its as hard or soft as you make it (on the sp you can set a super soft setting and pick or change it to summin harder on the fly), agree about the mirrors tho so i threw them in a skip and got bar end mirrors lol.

[@AndyManCam]

One mans medicine is another mans poison! Good to hear the long term opinions though!

[@AndrewFosterSheff69]

Yammies are awesome! Musical Instruments wanting to be played.

[@AndyManCam]

I wholeheartedly agree! I'd love to hear one of these in the flesh with an Akra on it! WAAARP!

[@leeadams7794]

Hi, Enjoy your content 👍🏻 Do you know where they got the wheels done on the MT-10 SP? Ride Safe Cheers Lee

[@AndyManCam]

Thanks Lee! I’m pretty sure they did the wheels at the Yamaha Factory!

[@leeadams7794]

Andy Man Cam OK never seen that before and looks really nice on the SP Where did you get the test ride from can I ask? Have you had a ride on the Speed Triple RS?

[@AndyManCam]

Of course! It was at Dumke & Lütt, in Duvenstedt. Though they did neglect to tell me that i had the SP model for test, after I asked to ride a standard model! 😂 Then restricted me to half an hour. Needless to say, I’d buy elsewhere if i was going to!

[@leeadams7794]

Andy Man Cam Well the SP is a better bike lol I did wonder why you didn’t refer to it as the SP at the time 😃 now I know why. I have the 2020 SP and the 2020 Speed Triple RS they are both amazing bikes 👍🏻

[@AndyManCam]

I’d very mich like to have a go on the Street Triple. Hoping to make that happen asap.

[@jasonmcmaster3939]

Fantastic motor but wish they stuck a little closer the original FZ1 look and style...just a humble opinion.

[@AndyManCam]

I agree. A little too much manga-meets-transformers going on. A simple but brutish looking naked would be more my cup of tea. Like an MT-09 but after a year in the gym!

[@aapddd]

@@AndyManCam If Yamaha would make a xsr 1000 retro style with this engine, I would order one right away.

[@AndyManCam]

That would be an absolute belter! I imagine that they would be afraid of stealing some custom away from the XJR1300 market though. But then, that bike surely needs a refresh soon anyway!!

[@cornish_boy6235]

Loved it when I rode the standard one but there really thirsty, would still have one instantly if finances allowed.

[@AndyManCam]

Yeah if money was no object, I’d probably give one a home for a season! Definitely a bit greedy on the fuel for a touring machine though!

[@demolitioneagle-top104]

@@AndyManCam whats the mileage compared to mt09?

[@HippoDrones]

Great video Andy, I was very tempted with the MT-10 when I got the Triumph Street Triple... I really struggled to get a demo as every dealership I went to that had one... the bike was broken when I got there (not the bikes fault, more the idiots test riding them and crashing).

[@paullee6663]

That's cause it wasn't meant to happen! You made the right choice mate IMHO

[@HippoDrones]

I love my 765, and yesterday was the only day I regretted getting the low version, almost exactly 1 year after picking it up... so 364:1 is pretty good odds that it is the right bike for me! :-)

[@paullee6663]

Do you mean you regret getting the low version Triumph over the MT-10 or the low version over the full size 765? May I ask what is your inside leg measurement? (Never thought I'd ask another bloke that! :-) You just got a shout out on Teapotone's latest video by the way!

[@HippoDrones]

@@paullee6663 Aye, the low vs the regular height 765... just on track... in every day road riding I love the LRH version. My inside leg is 31" and hahaha... I think it is a motovlogger question! hahaha :D Oooo thank you for the heads up, been watching Netflix most of the eve so not seen his latest one just yet... will go have a butchers! :-) ty

[@AndyManCam]

Cheers HD. After looking at the spec sheets, looks like the Speed triple and the MT-10 are pretty evenly matched. But if you’re so happy with the 765 then like +Paul lee says, it was definitely the right decision!! I’m keen to try the speed/street triple pie asap!

[@Dara-ih6jq]

The 2022 is going to get a new style design fave lift and will have 20more hp (180hp) and longer gearing.

[@AndyManCam]

TBH, all things that further cement my dislike of where the bike industry is going. I don’t want more power, I want smoother power delivery. I don’t want new plastic, I want higher quality paintwork. I don’t want more rider aids, I want great suspension components. But maybe I’m alone there. Everybody else wants more of the things they can’t ever really use.

[@johna6968]

I so want to like it but I don't. I'd be more swayed toward the mt09

[@MotoMichelle]

Agree

[@AndyManCam]

I’d be inclined to agree with you too. I don’t need all the gimmicks and the MT-09 has a much cleaner look IMHO. Might have to ride one to see if it’s as exciting!

[@jeffmccollum3769]

Great sound very similar to a R1

[@AndyManCam]

Funny coincidence that, what with it being the same engine and all!

[@streipsgjen]

dude, love the wheels on that SP

[@AndyManCam]

With details like that, it’s easy to see where the extra hefty price tag comes from! 👌😆

[@streipsgjen]

Andy Man Cam mine came with the all blue wheels

[@AndyManCam]

Oh. Maybe it was an addition for the 2019 model?

[@samehsouissi6986]

Great vid Andy. U know now u have to review MT09 and 07 hahaha, many said 07 is the right choice.

[@AndyManCam]

Thanks Sam! Yeah I know!! The MT-09 is definitely another I’d like to try. The MT-07 was sadly just too small when I tried it a couple of years ago.

[@samehsouissi6986]

@@AndyManCam I hear you, once you are addicted to power it's hard to give it up hahahah

[@AndyManCam]

Haha! That wasn’t the problem! The MT-07 has plenty of poke for a lot of fun. There just wasn’t enough room for my lanky legs!! 😂

[@samehsouissi6986]

@@AndyManCam oh really, how tall are you? I'm 6.1

[@AndyManCam]

Im 6‘3“ and a little bit. But 75% of it is in my legs! 😂 🦵🦵

[@Steve-motorcycles]

Going on about the throttle response on one of the smoothest I’ve rode. Yes it’s aggressive but the bike is absolutely meant to be.

[@AndyManCam]

My Honda CB1000R is aggressive too. Managed to keep on the heels of MT10‘s ok. But it’s also considerably smoother at the same time. Ultimately though, when it works for you, then it IS right. I didn’t like the throttle response, but that doesn’t mean others won’t. That’s just something that’s important to me.

[@frankstocker5475]

While track racing do you have to stop to change modes?

[@AndyManCam]

I honestly don’t think You would want to be worrying about changing modes during a race!!

[@vinnyd8108]

You weren't actually changing the engine modes in this video from what I saw. The switch you were playing with was only for traction control !! Mode button is on the right ..

[@AndyManCam]

Do you have one of These then?

[@alanedwards3180]

How old is the bike because the original mt10 mode c was easy mode .mode b was most aggressive.ive got a 2018 mt10 with modes 3 to 1 .three being least aggressive and mode 1 which rips your arms out your sockets

[@alanedwards3180]

AndyManCam sorry you said mode 3 not mode c .i ride mode 2 most the time then knock it into mode one on fast sweeping roads ,I find mode 2 best in the twisteys or the front wheels always in the air mid corner

[@MotoMichelle]

MT09 review next please 😃

[@AndyManCam]

That is definitely something I’d like to try out. Maybe at a different dealership though because the people at this one are plonkers!

[@TheTypeRTheory]

Was it mostly the MPG that made you pick the Honda over this?

[@AndyManCam]

That and the styling, better fuelling, less cheap plastic and better (IMHO) executed rider aids and electronics. Plus I got a better price on the Honda.

[@disekjoumoer]

That needs carbon, dunnit? I'm also a bit of two minds about the whole modes etc. I think one just gets used to whatever one has, or used to, in any case.

[@AndyManCam]

There was a distinct lack of carbon! I agree though. I think modes are a gimmick to prevent having to create one useable map. I get it that on such a powerful machine, a rain mode could be useful. But otherwise the rider should be able to govern the aggressiveness of the acceleration, bu using the accelerator!

[@disekjoumoer]

@@AndyManCam So we agree then. Two modes; batshit insane and old age home sunday outing .😂

[@AndyManCam]

Sounds good to me. I’ll send Yamaha an email...

[@MotoMichelle]

@@disekjoumoer 😂😃

[@Bookerdevin101]

Which do you prefer this or the CB1000R?

[@AndyManCam]

Definitely the CB1000R. No surprise as there’s one standing in my garage!

[@KarlHaupt]

I know this is more expensive and more powerful, but for the money, does it truly kick the pants off the CB1000R? I love the look of the Honda, but you get what you pay for right?

[@AndyManCam]

I couldn’t honestly say im afraid. Having never ridden the CB (Honda don’t answer my enquiries. Worst customer service ever) anything i did say would be heresay. But I’ve heard that the Honda is more refined although a bit more heavy and slow turning. But you’d have to try one out I guess.

[@1990-t1j]

I reckon you chose well when you bought the Honda. This bike is too thirsty, and I don't like the look of it. Whereas the GSX-S 1000 ...

[@AndyManCam]

I'm with you there. Definitely prefer the more classic looks of the Honda. Wasn't swayed by the GSX-S though. Although it was an undeniably good bike.

[@winner1338]

what do you prefer: MT10 SP or S1000R ?

[@AndyManCam]

That’s a toughie. MT10 is far more exciting, but the Fueling on the S1000R is far superior. If it came with a perfect map flashed into the ECU, I’d take an MT10. Sadly the S1000R is a bit to small for me. But the MT10 with stock fueling, I’d rather keep the money! 😂

[@kd350]

MT-10 vs. FZ1 or '07-'09 FZ6. The 10 has no: center stand; wind protection; fenders to speak of. The Zees have no: pot metal rust magnet Midas muffler underneath, distracting rider modes, fly by wire, ABS, wheelie/launch this and that; which most riders disable if they could anyway. My FZ6 also has that fuel starvation hesitation after decel over 5 grand you mention on your ownership FZ1 video though the 10's fueling's not perfect either. Otherwise, On the Raven FZ6, at town revs, the fueling's analog and not notchy. The six does have a real 5 (US) gallon tank for a 200 mile range. Speaking of tank, there's no plastic anywhere and magnetic tank bags stick like glue. Comments below denote the guzzly nature of the MT. Crossplane cranks with the grouped firing order may impact drive train wear and vibes at lugging revs. Good ole 180 degree 1342 firing order UJM BSB and World Superbikes are still kicking Yamaha's wannabe V4 firing ass. The six towers above its competition even to this day. It has a reported 92 rear wheel horsepower, which is only 4 less than the 2003 R6 the engine's based on. 11.2 in the quarter smokes the 12 second: SV 650; FZ6R; Ninja/Versys 650 all with 60 something hp. Both brakes please. Ride vintage two strokes most of the week and you'll learn to love the back brake.

[@AndyManCam]

I find that in ‚normal’ street riding, the physics at play tends to nullify the back brake. If you’re getting the absolute maximum breaking efficiency out of the front, then the rear wheel has little less than a feather of weight pushing down on it. So the slightest touch of brake will lock it up and it wouldn’t provide any real breaking traction if it didn’t lock up. So i prefer to keep things simple and not have to add another complication that i need to concentrate on. Sure I’m town or slow speed, the rear brake is smoother and balances out the bike. But when I’m already hammering into the mouth of a bend, hard on the countersteering and with the balls of my feet on the pegs, then that rear brake pedal could not be further from what i want to be thinking about!

[@kd350]

@@AndyManCam My 'normal' street riding consists of using both, then flaring off the rear or even flaring off the front should conditions demand such as low traction cornering. But first application is both, as the vector force of the rear drives the front tire down. That 70/30 ratio works on dry smooth pavement at high decel rates. Sure it can go to 100/0 at moto gp speeds and braking points. On the street though pavement's iffy, damp, wet, tar snaked and speeds are less etc. Recovering from a locked front is near impossible esp. in the wet. Problem is, when riders rarely think of the rear, and a panic stop entails, where the front doesn't get weighted first, the wreck happens. If rear breaks are so worthless, then go out to your car and pinch the rear brake lines. ABS and eventually IMU ABS will be mandatory because riders think they're Rossi. Marquez smokes his rear pads so explain that. Mick Doohan had a thumb operated rear brake (to help squat the rear mid corner which I do as well), when he had that severe broken leg. Back torque is too inconsistent to rely on. Thanks Andy and best of luck, happy posting.

[@SoulReaper599xx]

Too badd the SP is not available in the US :'(

[@AndyManCam]

I don’t understand why they do that.

[@Supernova12034]

did you really just compare your ancient Fz1 to the MT10?

[@AndyManCam]

Two wheels. 998cc inline four engine. Electric fuel injection. Upright riding position. About 150hp. About 210kg. 17 litre tank. These are all things that both bikes have. I don’t see why comparing them is so ridiculous of an idea. After riding the MT10, i decided that it wasn’t enough of an improvement over my ‚ancient‘ FZ1 to warrant the upgrade.

[@Supernova12034]

@@AndyManCam you forgot all the modern electronics, cruise control, and comparing an a plain jane vanilla inline 4 to the crossplane mt 10 is ridiculous

[@AndyManCam]

@@Supernova12034 Have you ridden both?

[@northernninjarunner5506]

It’s a great bike love the wheelie in first but my FZ1 I toured France with luggage and it was great. Would you be able to do that on this or would you get off the end of the day and think I’m ruined? Wish Yamaha would sort that naff piece of plastic on the tank and increase the tank size. Teapotone has been reviewing the new BMW’s and you can change modes as you ride along.

[@AndyManCam]

Same here. My FZ1 was a great touring machine. Smooth on the long runs, agile in the twisties and enough room to move about to avoid cramps! I can possibly imagine that the propensity towards wheelies would get a bit annoying eventually. On my FZ1, I can pin it and all the power translates into forward motion. Having 160bhp but only being able to use 120 without lifting the front is a bit of a waste!

[@northernninjarunner5506]

Andy Man Cam Full akro system on mine would take it to 160 and the weight drop add the K&N fitted a couple more. A little European trip is needed

[@AndyManCam]

Monstrous. I’m just interested in smoothing out the fueling and increasing low end torque. 140bhp is enough for me.

[@alanedwards3180]

I spent 10 days in the mountains of northern Spain with mates in 2019 on mine ,one day for 11 hours bar fuelling a few times ,got of fresh .i was 51 then .i have got a comfort seat though

[@Winkkin]

45mph in 4th? Thats why you get a little lumpiness. 2nd, maybe 3rd out there.

[@AndyManCam]

On my CB1000R i can do 20mph in 6th. No lumpiness. I didn’t buy a bike to be screaming it’s tits of all the time on the hunt for the powerband. I want tractable useable power throughout the rev range. But I’m also not saying i expect the engine to yank my arms off when i turn on the taps from 1500rpm. Just that it remembers it’s manners!

[@ktm-kr9mm]

Would this feel underpowered compared to a R1?

[@AndyManCam]

I honestly don’t think so. Maybe a tiny bit because the R1 is lighter, but the torque delivery is different. Less high end Hp, more low end Nm.

[@putitupinya]

It actually has slightly more torque than the R1 in the midrange...

[@W3TFART]

Love your ride reviews is this your wedding present? Lol 😂

[@AndyManCam]

HA! My wedding present is my wife mate!! 😂😂

[@W3TFART]

Andy Man Cam still in the honeymoon phase ,Or does she read the comments? 😉😂😂

[@AndyManCam]

Both!! 😂

[@W3TFART]

Andy Man Cam 😂😂😂

[@Integrator22]

Mate, your reviews are great :-)… your spirit, comments and vigour of informing is superB. Huge thanks

[@AndyManCam]

Thank you VERY much Robert! So glad that the excitement comes across!

[@TFA-01]

Well yep. But no FZ1 right?!? I mean i do like it. But want to hate it, 1, because i cant afford it, 2 because its not an FZ1 😂😂 Im happy to be wrong!!

[@AndyManCam]

Very true!! I think the FZ1 looks more refined and classy/classic naked. This has a bit too much plastic friffery all over it. Like an overpeirced yoof! Happiness with your bike at 8 grand saved is definitely not wrong mate!! Yamaha did well when they put the FZ1 together!

[@cpuuk]

So that's the SP version?

[@AndyManCam]

Apparently so! Would have been nice if the salesman had either 1: listened to my request to test ride a standard version or 2: told me that I was riding something 3000€ more expensive than I had asked for!! Very disappointing. Ultimately this video is now quite useless. 😭

[@cpuuk]

@@AndyManCam Na, I think we all know the MT-10 in any guise is the dog's danglies (that engine) ;-)

[@AndyManCam]

Very true. The motor is a belter.

[@Kwaalaaa]

You turn off a quick shifter.... by using the clutch....

[@AndyManCam]

No. You bypass a quickshifter by using the clutch. Some situations don’t lend themselves well to quickshifting. Ever tried jamming the shifter from first to second, while crawling along in traffic? So it’s a desirable thing to be able to switch it off completely or change the thresholds at which it becomes active.

[@eddiedonnelly9685]

The bars don't look wide...

[@AndyManCam]

They were though. It’s a wide bike.

[@eddiedonnelly9685]

Looks can deceive... Nice bike.

[@AndyManCam]

Very nice bike indeed.

[@whatsgoingon71]

7,7 l/100 km. it must have been trashed to hell and back... even my car does get better mileage. :D

[@AndyManCam]

Apparently that’s normal. It’s well documented that the fuel economy on these is pretty awful!!

[@SRSpoony]

@@AndyManCam its the only reason i didnt buy 1, fuel was shocking and a twin actually did better

[@KrestenGiese]

Maybe it's different in the UK, but nobody really buys a motorcycle for the fuel economy. It's like buying a Lamborghini and complaining it gets 15L/100 km

[@SRSpoony]

@@KrestenGiese its nothing to do with the UK he lives in Germany i live in Switzerland, when your on a mountain pass like say the Susten then Grimsel and then Nufenen pass you wil do 140km and there wont be a single fuel station in sight, so you need a bike that can do atleast 200km on a tank normal and 160km when your having fun, if you dont know what im talking about for passes google them and you will know what i mean, the gragon in the states has nothing on them i can hit 500km of different passes in a single day easy in the Swiss Alps alone

[@whatsgoingon71]

@@KrestenGiese Unless you do your daily commute on a motorcycle... or are generally a cheap bastard.

[@simonfowler7561]

And ps you cannot compare this to the FZ1. The FZ is a great bike but is "old school", these days the 1000s look like 600s and go like hell....

[@TeeBee997]

Great video man, but I have to say that the never ending cutting of the video after each and every sentence is pretty damn annoying. For some reason this has become a common phenomenon for many youtubers.

[@AndyManCam]

Sadly it’s a supply/demand conundrum. Sure the video could be left ‚natural‘ and it would be easier to watch. But then it would also be considerably longer and people wouldn’t watch it in the first place. Rock-youtuber-hardplace.

[@TeeBee997]

Andy Man Cam Yeah, I get it, I guess lots of people want the “intensity” that it provides. Personally I’d have preferred it a bit more uncut, something like Motorcyclist magazine’s commuter videos but hey, that’s just me and you have plenty more people to please. :) Anyway I really enjoyed the video and the SP seems like such a phenomenal bike. Cheers!

[@AndyManCam]

It's a bitter pill. I'd prefer to make the videos more flowing and relaxed. But I think too many people look at the length of a vid before they click on it. Plus when you lose the goldfish like attention span of your average viewer, then youtube punishes you for the low audience retention! It's a tough balance that I sadly STILL haven't got quite right!! I'll keep trying! :D

[@user-on5zm2we8q]

Wanna come and ride my Yamaha XJ 600 Diversion?

[@AndyManCam]

Um... maybe?... 😜

[@paultempels1207]

bought it, also due this video... thx Andy (the wife also says thank you Andy...NOT hahaha)

[@AndyManCam]

Brilliant! Very happy to have helped Paul! I’m sure the wife will come around, once she sees how cool you look!

[@OldManTony]

I’d have one!

[@AndyManCam]

Yeah I wouldn’t say no!

[@Banditmanuk]

Me too 😉

[@AndyManCam]

It the bike that everybody wants, but nobody wants to buy!! 😂

[@porkchopspapi5757]

What does sp stand for?

[@AndyManCam]

Super Plasticky!

[@megamember6195]

Meh i dont like that sound. MY FZ1 2007 with BOS Exhaust definitely sounds a lot better. I like that angry screaming and brutal accleration over 7000rpm.

[@AndyManCam]

Sure, it’s not for everyone. TBH I think when I had a twin, I like the sound of a four. Now I have a four, the grass is once again greener!!

[@AndreasBrOlesen]

Andy Man Cam You definitely need more than one bike! Maybe a triple is for you? You have to try the Speed Triple RS, if you are into brute down low torque.

[@serithin4703]

FFS man keep your head still.

[@vicpnut1]

Oh why did I think the mt10 was a 3 cylinder…? Lol

[@AndyManCam]

Because it sounds so funky i imagine! If anything, it sounds more like it only has 2 cylinders!! 🤣🤣

[@vicpnut1]

@@AndyManCam is the 9 or 7 a 3? I swear I heard that the mt was a3 …🤷🏼‍♂️🤦🏼‍♂️

[@AndyManCam]

Haha! The 9 is a 3 and the 7 is a 2!

[@rtjkjchannel2775]

Is that automatic

[@AndyManCam]

Nope, but it has a quickshifter.

[@RasheedKhan-he6xx]

Can't fathom why motorcycles need riding modes and electronic stability snd electric shocks etc etc. Seems like a lot of faff and extra weight to carry around.

[@AndyManCam]

I totally agree. The riding modes should be the skills of the rider. Electric shocks I can understand as proper suspension setup is a very complicated and dark art that I haven't yet mastered!

[@RasheedKhan-he6xx]

@@AndyManCam fair enough.

[@exothermal.sprocket]

Speaking of ECU-flashage, your FZ1 could use a heap of improvement. I had a new 2011 where I went through all the modifications, and it was a TOTALLY different machine when completed. I was shocked. www.ivansperformanceproducts.com/stkvsfinalSO.gif

[@AndyManCam]

I’m constantly considering ECU flashing. Though Ivan‘s was of doing it is extremely expensive and inconvenient. Using a Powercommander in Germany is also technically illegal, so that also makes me a little nervous!! Not to mention posting the brain of my bike all the way to the US! 😱 There has to be an easier and more convenient way.

[@exothermal.sprocket]

@@AndyManCam Yeah I'm looking at it from the perspective of the USA, so I'm not sure of the legalities of similar things in another country. There are several ECU options in the states and I can only speak from the benefit of Ivan's setup. As with most things motorcycle, it's a game of Whack-a-mole because as soon as you touch one element, another pops up until you've spent a load of cash and have them all beat down. Personally the powerband on my FZ1 lost all the torque dips, the fuel injection felt like a well tuned carb, felt vibration dropped at least 70% everywhere, the power was improved a lot, zero on/off throttle jerk (fuel-cut was shut off), and the R77 full Yosh system had a great tone. Engine never went above about 195°F after flash whereas before just crawling in 1st gear in traffic it would soar above 230°F in no time.

[@AndyManCam]

Yeah so much of the biking improvement world would be much easier for me if I didn't live in Germany! Sounds like it has the potential to be one of the best bikes ever made! I NEED to do something about it!!

[@fredthebarber]

I think this is the only review I’ve ever seen of this bike that had the front wheel down most of the time! Here I was thinking this would be your initiation into the 12 o’clock Boys.

[@AndyManCam]

Haha! Given another few hours and a bit less traffic, maybe! Sadly I’m not the best at wheelies. One day I’ll actually have to grow some balls and learn how to do it!!

[@egg250]

The do everything bike

[@AndyManCam]

Except for going a long way on a tank of fuel!!!

[@peteralexander1155]

So glad you chose the Honda over the Yam. The CB1000R breathe so much more ease, class and is a real gentleman powerbike.

[@AndyManCam]

I totally agree Peter. It's just that little bit more refined. Just like me! ;D

[@marksimpson5218]

Andy’s not, the build quality of the Honda was crap.

[@AndyManCam]

So true sadly. I was smitten at first, but the cracks showed far too quickly for a premium bike.

[@ratbrain7743]

Another reason to avoid a demo bike. They get flogged by demo riders.

[@AndyManCam]

I agree. But at the same time, demo bikes are supposed to be flogged. If I’m going to drop 13-16k on a bike, I want to know what it can do. Not what it can do in the break in period! I also don’t understand why dealerships put out demo bikes with new tyres on. „Here’s the bike, but don’t ride it like it’s meant to be ridden because the tyres are new“. Very stupid. Give the customers an experience of what the bike will be like at its best, or you’re just putting people off!

[@ratbrain7743]

@@AndyManCam My friend has a dealership. I've seen his goons torture bikes in the shop. New Demo bikes with tires smoked on them. Then they get rolled back in the shop with new tires. The unsuspecting customer has no idea. I stay away from demos. It's like buying a rental car.

[@AndyManCam]

Totally agree.

[@samdisen]

good review, a drivers review, not lets wheelie the shit out of this review, which is fun, but not so usefull

[@AndyManCam]

Haha! Thanks Sam. Cheers for the positive spin on me not being able to wheelie! But tbh, you are of course right. Wheelies are cool, but they’re not really any good for basing a purchasing decision upon!!

[@samdisen]

i am not a wheelie guy, so no worries

[@AndyManCam]

Neither am I, apparently!! Must fix that one day, otherwise I’ll never be one of the cool kids!!

[@mbal4052]

I bought my MT10 for the wheelies 😉

[@AndyManCam]

Come for the Crossplane, stay for the wheelies!

[@Greggspies]

Believe they like a drinkypoos but go velly quickly

[@AndyManCam]

Like an alcoholic olympic sprinter!

[@winner1338]

i have the same glove. lol

[@AndyManCam]

Nice gloves!