Yamaha NEO's Electric Scooter - Review & Ride

[@martinphillips7545]

I have owned one for about 6 months. I also have a Yamaha Niken and a CCM Blackout, 3 bicycles one of which is a Brompton folding bike. Over 66 in the UK, I have my bus pass and live in a city with a great bus service with a bus going past my door every 10-15 mins. Most roads are 20mph. Why did I bother with all that description? Well, I bought the scooter because I thought that it would be great to have an electric scooter to get about the city, it is, but I hadn't really thought it through. The good points, with the big top box off the Niken and only using a single battery, for the extra space and making use of the curry hook, it is good for a weeks shop for 2. It is also great for rapid point to point around the city. Legal parking can be an issue, but look at where Deliveroo riders park. The concern about the scooter being quiet is a red herring. I can cycle as fast as the 20mph speed limit and make no noise. With skinnier tyres I am arguably less safe on a bicycle. The silence gives you a greater awareness of your surroundings, like on a bicycle. You can ride assertively with the presence of a moped and the awareness of a cyclist. If people walk out on me with a motorbike that is loud, they will on an electric scooter. The build quality is great, better than many of the Chinese scooters on the market. It feels like a pukka Yamaha. The removable batteries are a must for me, I live in a flat and the garage has no power. They aren't heavy and one will charge overnight. The thing is, for the sort of journeys I do, I can achieve all I want to do by bus or bicycle or both. If I need to get somewhere I can cycle almost as fast in the 20mph zone. I can even put my Brompton on a bus to shrink the journey. I can cycle on the Bus Lanes closed to the Neos. If I cycle, I get much needed exercise. So, I don't really need one. Your needs may be different.

[@andrewpitts6498]

Great to see you back on two wheels. Look fwd to more two wheel content 👍

[@NevoEVReviewIreland]

More to come!

[@andrewpitts6498]

@@NevoEVReviewIreland well I hope you're rockin a livewire del mar next time 😮😁😎🤞🤞

[@richardwallace2458]

I love motorbikes and have always had a soft spot for mopeds, so I couldn't help but smile at this review. I would actually love one of these but alas I don't live in a city anymore... Is 47km/hr sufficient do you think? Sounds a bit slow for keeping up with even city traffic...

[@NevoEVReviewIreland]

For the city it's actually perfect speed.

[@kevinb7058]

Would you say the BYD Seagull will be sold in Ireland? Around €15k? Hope it comes and cheaper too 🤞

[@NevoEVReviewIreland]

Yes to it being sold. Will be early in 2025. I think your price is optimistic and I can see it being around early 20k

[@Grungni]

Great review,thanks!

[@desobrien7357]

Price is high compared to Chinese. Quality would need to be great. Range is too low imo. There could be great leaps forward for town bikes in the next five years. A 3 wheel version would suit me better as I crashed my moped on cow dung. Thanks. Love the variety. Des

[@NevoEVReviewIreland]

I've not seen any 3 wheel electric options yet

[@whatnow9653]

Can it maintain top speed going up a decent hill.

[@NevoEVReviewIreland]

Yes it could!

[@whatnow9653]

Good stuff. By the way, I think KYB also supply the latest shocks on Citroens.

[@kingdoz]

Yes it does, keeps at 28mph easy up hills even with pillion passenger, they are way better than 50cc but don’t go faster, literally I feel the speed limiter kick in which is stupid, it’s more dangerous driving at 28mph than 35 when restless drivers in cars on my back beeping me. In 30mph zones people expect around me expect to do 33-35, it’s just reality and the fact the limiter kicks in at 28mph is sometimes a small problem. Also means I go slow on the 40mph dual carriageway which is super annoying for cars. Wished they upgraded the 50cc limit to 125cc equiv limit on the regular license without having to retake any tests again (who has a whole day and the brain to relearn the Highway Code when you been driving for 25 years already) like most other countries in the world.

[@whatnow9653]

@@kingdoz thanks for the review. What is the typical range like ? Yea 40mph/60kph is needed in urban areas, but even if you did 100mph in a 30 zone, most drivers, even people that should know better will choose to ride your tail ( some perverse thrill of keeping up with a motor bike or something ), for example, on my full bike test the examiner who was following in a car, drove so close to my back wheel I could just about see the sides of his car in my mirrors.

[@stockcar73]

Would you say the Neos is better on hills and accelerating than the Piaggo 1 ?

[@NevoEVReviewIreland]

Yes, I felt it was!

[@stockcar73]

⁠Thanks for the quick response, do you think the Silence SO2 could be better than the Neos or maybe the heavy battery would be a deal breaker?

[@NevoEVReviewIreland]

Will have to try the silence. I meant to 2 years ago!

[@stockcar73]

I think I’ll stick with my Peugeot Tweet 50cc for now, but when it starts acting up again I’ll defensively take a Yamaha NEOs for a test drive at my local dealer😊

What anti-theft mechanisms are on this thing. Otherwise you're just buying some scobie a present.

[@NevoEVReviewIreland]

Great question. With the smart key you get an alarm and immobiliser. Also there's a steering lock setting too

[@80y3r9]

Does it not have GPS tracking?

[@Jonathan_Doe_]

@@80y3r9Theft of bikes with factory immobilisers is slightly less common because they either have to throw them in a van or push them along from another bike. 50cc’s and 125cc’s aren’t legally required to have factory immobilisers, which is why they’re stolen so much. Aftermarket trackers or hiding a bunch of AirTags around the bike is a better option than factory fit, because scumbags work out where the factory ones are and rip them out, or just run GPS blockers while stealing models known to have factory tracking.

[@richardwallace2458]

Motorbike theft is always a worry and unfortunately it'll be the same for E- bikes.

[@bsnf-5]

​@@richardwallace2458yes but you can hide an e-bike much easier in your average apartment or whatever. You are not doing the same with this scooter, obviously it's big and heavy

[@craigt5355]

The move to electric motorcycles is going to interesting. Scooters seem to be a decent use case , inner city travel, lower speed slow and stop / starts etc. The average motorcycle on the hand needs a big battery and therefore big cost, due to the poor drag co-efficient of the squishy human sticking up like a sail compared to a slippery electric cars at higher speeds, and the need to keep up with traffic on motorways, and longer commutes(range)

[@NevoEVReviewIreland]

Definitely for shorter low speed run. No trips to Belmullet planned anytime soon

[@whatnow9653]

Aaaaaah, not even with the extra battery installed and another held between your knees.

[@Jonathan_Doe_]

Only issue is, 125cc’s are cheap and go like 300 miles on £10 fuel. Unless you sneak the batteries into your workplace to charge them up, the electricity cost is probably going to be similar to fuelling a 100mpg scooter anyway.

[@andrewpitts6498]

​@@Jonathan_Doe_I'm in the UK so I'm not sure how the electricity tarrif compares, but ours is 28p per kWh atm, so it certainly ain't cheap. My Niu nqi gts pro is a bit more powerful than this one under review and does 45mph quire easily returns the equivalent of 400mpg at todays UK petrol prices. When I first bought it 3 years ago the comparison was 500mpg equivalent. Realistic range is 50 miles. Cheers.

[@andrewpitts6498]

Regarding drag. Motorcycles are way better than cars. Physics says so, but one can prove themselves very easily by using both a motorcycle and a car and taking note of the power required to do the same speed. A "naked" motorcycle has a poor drag Co efficient for sure but it has a very small frontal area and low rolling resistance. I've ridden motorcycles large and very small and small cars for about 50 years and I know for sure that a motorcycle can achieve a very respectable speed on a very minimal amount of power compared to a car. If one takes into account the trend towards large SUV's the difference in power consumption for the same speed is laughable. For example 4hp will get you to 50mph on a motorcycle. What kind of speed would 4hp get you to in an average car?

[@gregore45]

12:07 how tall are you? The bike looks pretty small when you're on it

[@NevoEVReviewIreland]

188cm or 6'2"

[@Firkz]

47km/h 😅😅😅😅 by 2090 be like 'ohh it dosent move you have to push it yourself but it activat🤣🤣'

[@MrGMawson2438]

Nice Yamaha

[@NevoEVReviewIreland]

Indeed it is!

[@TheTravelJunkieOfficial]

Max speed?

[@NevoEVReviewIreland]

44 km/h

[@bruts82]

For the money not worth it I had the niu m sport Brilliant in the city but no good on hills and overall to much money for limited range best of with an electric bicycle. Or even better a tricycle moped

[@NevoEVReviewIreland]

It's on the pricey side for sure but have a ride and see for yourself

[@MrGMawson2438]

Hello mate

[@davidquinn5906]

At some point our daughter will pass her test and drive herself to work. We don't have room for three cars so I'm quite interested in something like this to bimble around on.

[@fazer12779]

The range is too low (needs to be 100 miles minimum) & the speed should be at least 70mph.

[@MrNobbyify]

Mopeds have to be restricted to 28 mph by law. Petrol engined models may have a range of only 50 miles.

[@bsnf-5]

Petrol/fuel/gasoline scooters > electric scooters. Let's return to the conversation in like 10 years. As of now, 2024, I am simply telling you the facts.

[@superwag634]

@@fazer12779 if you need that, you’re looking at the wrong product 😆

[@80y3r9]

Anyone else watch that in the bath?🛀

[@NevoEVReviewIreland]

🤣🤣

[@PatricaBuckley-g2j]

2 scooters in green 2 boxs 2 battery 2 pulgs 3 pin

[@chrishart8548]

So i can buy a 52v 20ah lithium battery for £308 or pay yamaha for a 50.4v 19.2ah battery for £1148. That probably has the same battery inside

[@NevoEVReviewIreland]

Definitely buying into the brand

[@chrishart8548]

@@NevoEVReviewIreland actually you can get the duel battery one for £3100 new. Seen a 2022 duel battery for £2500. But then technically it is 2 years old and the bike itself has no warranty left.

[@kingdoz]

@@chrishart8548 it would still have 1 year left warranty depends if you bought on launch (I got 3 years), and to be honest it’s amazing for cities like London. Never had a problem apart from range worry, and big plus the speed is probabaly 3 times faster getting from 0-28mph than any 50cc I have ever been on (included deregulated Vespas) and makes taking a pillion passenger totally useful and pretty cool. I love it, but I’m looking to upgrade to dual battery one now. If anyone wants I may sell mine privately for £2.1k (with the one battery and the charger) so I can upgrade to the double battery one. Always garaged. Looks and drives way better than any other Chinese bike, much better quality, none of the clicks and knocks or suspension cheapness you get on the Chinese stuff. Done just over 1000 miles on it and I think maybe a max of 60-70 charges (the battery is supposed to be good for 1000 charges before it goes down to 90%.

[@lackrobat]

Dual motor e-bike would be better value

[@NevoEVReviewIreland]

Have to agree with you and some exercise thrown in

[@bsnf-5]

Heck, even a good quality standard bicycle wins at this point.

[@bsnf-5]

I don't see anything this would be useful for, that a normal bicycle/electric bike can't do. I love scooters and mopeds, but the fuel (gasoline) ones. I know, they are less eco-friendly, but... number one, still more eco-friendly than big cars and number two, I don't really care that much, scooter and moped is supposed to be fun. And the fuel/petrol ones are dirt cheap, you can get a simple moped for about $500. Nothing ever breaks, and if it does, very easy to repair (any car mechanic should handle a simple scooter, especially 2-stroke - 2T engine), the repairs are not costly and the parts are easy to get (especially with Chinese scooters, etc.). So anyway, yamaha electric? No, no, no. Big no from me. But thanks for the review

[@ramk2443]

Sounds way too expensive for what it offers , chinese and indian scooters have much higher specs at 1/3rd the price points Better buy a ICE scooter at that price point

[@NevoEVReviewIreland]

It's on the higher side but there is quality in fairness

[@80y3r9]

​@@NevoEVReviewIrelandcan you get your hands on a really cheap one? I'm not surprised premium brands make nice things..

[@gatehanger1385]

The range is laughable

[@markusjohansson4949]

Yes unfortunately but it has great space for storage under the seat even with the charger in there. It ticks a few boxes but range is not so good.

[@chrishart8548]

It only goes 28mph how far do you want to go at that speed. Also a second battery can be added and that's probably longer distance than I'd even want to travel.

[@markusjohansson4949]

It is not that long

[@xr4nchy]

The display is a joke

[@serenitynow7779]

first of all speak after spitting cough from your mouth. and dont be in hurry. i watched 1/4 th video and got bored and irritated by your presentation.