Yamaha Ténéré 700 10k: Problems & Solutions

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Summary of my problems, annoying things and wishes with the Yamaha Ténéré 700. I'm talking a bit about each of them and the solutions I found so far, be it DIY or commercial aftermarket part.
It is very subjective list as it really depends on where and how one rides, some things I may see as an issue are no problem for others and vice versa.
Chapters:
00:00 Intro
00:21 Broken headlight
00:28 Headlight vibrations
01:24 Wind shield not adjustable & plastic frame
02:01 Front fork guard lower mounting points
02:31 Low fender and it's rigidity
03:09 Exhaust rubbing swing arm
03:51 Lower suspension linkage being lowest point
04:31 Brake lever off-road adjustment and dual position
05:05 Suspension, rear spring underrated
05:55 Seat bolts
06:07 ABS turning automatically on
06:32 Summary
Resources/Links:
Bash plates/Skid plates:
camel-adv.com/collections/yam...
www.axp-racing.com/en/adventu...
Yamaha Tenere 700 T7 High Fender Kit
camel-adv.com/collections/yam...
Yamaha 700 Tenere Anti-Bobble-Head (T7-ABH)
camel-adv.com/collections/yam...
Yamaha T7 Uprated OEM Shock Spring-RRP 627
www.rally-raidproducts.co.uk/y...
Hyperpro Shock Spring Yamaha Tenere 700
www.off-the-road.de/en/700-Te...
Yamaha T7 Front Fender Screws-RRP 636
www.rally-raidproducts.co.uk/y...
Yamaha Tenere 700 - essential suspension knowledge
• Yamaha Tenere 700 - es...
Rally Raid quick release seat screws
web. groups/Tener...
Yamaha Ténéré 700 10k project playlist:
• Yamaha Ténéré 700
Episodes on-line:
1. Yamaha Ténéré 700 10k: Intro
• Yamaha Ténéré 700 10k:...
2. Yamaha Ténéré 700 10k: Damage & Rust
• Yamaha Ténéré 700 10k:...
3. Yamaha Ténéré 700 10k: OutEx tubeless
• Yamaha Ténéré 700 10k:...
4. Yamaha Ténéré 700 10k: Honda CB500X vs Ténéré 700 - why did I upgrade?
• Yamaha Ténéré 700 10k:...
5. Yamaha Ténéré 700 10k: Dead / broken headlight!? Ep. 1: no light
• Yamaha Ténéré 700 10k:...
6. Yamaha Ténéré 700 10k: Guglatech air filter - review, wash & installation
• Yamaha Ténéré 700 10k:...
7. Yamaha Ténéré 700 10k: Dead / broken headlight!? Ep. 2: some light
• Yamaha Ténéré 700 10k:...
8. Yamaha Ténéré 700 10k: Problems & Solutions
• Yamaha Ténéré 700 10k:...
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[@XtremeCoke]

For the wind shield, i use cable tie to connect to the fairong/frame. when i crash, the cable tie will break first and its easy to replace without the need of tools. No it wont rattle and sustain high speed even with 100x2.5mm i use. maybe this could benefit you too

[@FARANDFURTHER]

This is very good point! Indeed that will be good solution, my windshield has been ziptied to the frame on Honda in the end as well. The fame could still crack but the zip ties may just absorb enough energy before snapping to dampen the impact. Thanks!

[@zanbon5415]

A lot of people complain about the dash vibrations (totally understood) I heard tho that Yamaha did that on purpose , so it wont break in case you drop the bike Good work mate !

[@FARANDFURTHER]

Well.... seems they did not really count with a use case when someone drops it 5 times a day 😂🤷🏻‍♂️🤦🏻‍♂️

[@Nightros]

Good video. Looking forward to get my hands on one T7. The best bash plate i have seen do protect the suspension link is the one from outback motortek.

[@FARANDFURTHER]

Thank you, I've added some more options of the skid plate to the Description. The Outback motortek bashplate does not provide the full protection of the rear suspension linkage.

[@nick4872]

Thanks for the detailed videos. I just picked up a T7 with 10k kms and noticed a suspension clunk on hard hits. Upon inspection I noticed quite a bit of play on the upper shock bolt/bushing. Have you had this problem?

[@oyleyhands1332]

Touratech and SWMotech now sell guards for the water pump,GB Racing and R&G both sell polymer case guards,The R&G ones cover the water pump.

[@FARANDFURTHER]

Yes correct, all probably useful, however I've not tested any of those myself.

[@stevec9959]

Excellent video. Very informative.

[@FARANDFURTHER]

Glad it was helpful!

[@thetubelesschannel]

Thanks ! Just got one myself....so it was useful !

[@FARANDFURTHER]

Hi Sven, glad it helped! I'm watching your videos as well, good stuff!

[@veiledallegory]

This should be a review done by the bike saying I hate when my rider does....

[@FARANDFURTHER]

Hehe, if the bike could speak... it would most likely yell at me most of the time. ;)

[@Linkonem]

Thanks for the video, we only get to see videos about how Ténéré is great. Glad to see an honest real experience review. I'm thinking to switch to Ténéré in the future but there's also this rumor about Honda Africa Twin 850L So I'll wait.

[@FARANDFURTHER]

Thanks! I tried to put it out as honestly as I could. As I had a Honda motorcycle before I have to say I love the brand and it's reliability. It could be cool bike. I could not wait, needed a tool to go. Now I'll be tweaking it and destroying it as I did with Honda :) If T7 lasts 6 years as Honda did, I hope that by the time I upgrade of T7 I'll be upgrading to an electric bike!

[@FARANDFURTHER]

Any tips for spare parts for Sony cameras in Morocco? I need some cables for my Sony RX100 V ideally online order delivered to Agadir...

[@Linkonem]

@@FARANDFURTHER online orders dunno much but I can ask a shop here in Casablanca, just bough a Nikon D5500 so if that guy has something he'll let me know, will keep you updated

[@Linkonem]

He told me he only sells cameras he doesn't do repairs and he has no reliable contact he can provide. You'll find something here for sure but you have to keep looking and I unfortunately don't know anyone for that 😕

[@FARANDFURTHER]

The spare part is so small it would fit in a letter, but question is if it will arrive to MK due to the COVID, that's why I'd like to look around here. Casablanca is probably the only place, some Sony repair shop or second hand shop.

[@paulh4943]

The nylon bolts for the front fender is a golden tip! cheap and fast solution.

[@oyleyhands1332]

UK nylon number plate screws work,just cut off the thin tip...black and cost pennies

[@FARANDFURTHER]

I was pointed to them by the RallyRaid, but as Oyley says... any nylon screws will do the trick.

[@martinseel2837]

I put a small sticker on the flashing fuel indicator.....its so annoying to me. But i really love the fact with the trip-counter which is automaticly working after reserve is starting. Love my T7

[@FARANDFURTHER]

Yes the trip counter for reserve is very handy. Although i have to remember that 80km range is only when riding gently and on road 😂

[@Dante_S550_Turbo]

Just arm chairing here, but I would definitely look into a guard for the water pump! 2 review videos, where the reviewers have witnessed other riders have a simple lay over on the bike and it sprung a pin size hole in that pump housing. Not a good time out in the wild, especially the way you ride, probably a miracle you didn't rip the whole housing off tbh XD

[@FARANDFURTHER]

Noted! I'm contemplating the solution for that. I'll be doing Dinaric Rally next week and I hope that I can survive without the guard. I seems to actually scratching it with my metal tip on my boots.

[@toshinaka1309]

素晴らしい動画。10000kmのハードな道を乗り越えたライダーだけが分かるリアルなレビュー。転倒に起因するエグゾースト・マフラーの内側への変形でスイングアームに干渉することや、ウィンド・スクリーンの破損は深刻な問題ですね。ぜひヤマハが解決されることを望みます。

[@FARANDFURTHER]

Thanks Toshi, glad you liked the video. I've solved the exhaust rubbing the swingarm repositioning the exhaust.

[@biscuitsalive]

Does your rear luggage rack protect the exhaust a bit? Concerned the exhaust getting hit will damage frame.

[@FARANDFURTHER]

Now when I changed to higher exhaust it does protect it yes.

[@remko8105]

Camel ADV also sells an exhaust kit that raises the exhaust and also tucks it in a bit more, which should fix the problem of bending the subframe/ scraping the swingarm.

[@FARANDFURTHER]

Yes, CamelADV has a kit and I've since the video had my own conversion done. More on it here: kzbin.info/www/bejne/mn2zeoKcqqxrrbs

[@williampeiper292]

Good video. Where did you get those mirrors?

[@FARANDFURTHER]

Hi William, those are double take mirrors, expensive but versatile, they’re mounted on the RAM arms (the expensive part).

[@paulvanhout9695]

Great detail of the issues you have encountered. Helpful as I consider the T7 for a lightweight adventure bike.

[@FARANDFURTHER]

Hi Paul, I'm glad the video has been helpful. It feels very very light when I ride T7 off-road. The important is not to stop, because once I stop I can feel 200kg again :)

[@stepheneldridge6998]

Really good round up of some valid points, but the bottom line is that the T7 is mostly a brilliant bike. It's a case of personalizing the bike and making it even better!! Cheers, Steve

[@FARANDFURTHER]

Thanks, yes I think that would be my conclusion as well. Nothing mayor so far.

[@FARANDFURTHER]

I also think it's great platform for the tweaking as it is very simple to play with and adjust comparing to more "advanced" shall we say bikes.

[@rtcivic]

any fix for the fuel gas indicator being inacurate?

[@FARANDFURTHER]

Keep the tank full? ;) The reserve is massive I constantly ride with the flashing fuel.

[@leemski]

I have a big problem: I do not have Tenere yet xD! Jokes aside, hesitating between #Honda Africa Twin and this #Yamaha. @FAR&FURTHER It's great you share your experience with this one. 2:01 Looks like Yamaha engineers said: lets keep that weak point for next 2022 version update - otherwise I see no reason why to keep such a front fork flow - did they tested hard this machine before releasing it? Next, 3:52 Yamaha made awkward design for the lower suspension linkage especially this bike is meant to be an off-road bike. Certainly no bike is perfect, but this Yamaha is pretty close to it - Hello #Yamaha are you listening your real users? Hope so ;)

[@FARANDFURTHER]

Hi, well no bike is perfect. I have to say that the lower linkage is not an issue really. I've now done Dinaric Rally with it and the rear linkage is least of the problems. You would need to do some really dificult single tracks and rock steps in order to get close to damage the rear linkage. Yes when I was training jumping over the rocks... than it matters.

[@leemski]

@@FARANDFURTHER Great to have real-experience opinion from T7 rider!

[@SamiNami]

Did you find a good permanent solutions for the Exhaust?

[@FARANDFURTHER]

I think I did, I have another video about the High exhaust modification. kzbin.info/www/bejne/mn2zeoKcqqxrrbs

[@Prestonesfpv]

I have a full Rally Raid converted CB500X that i am very pleased with, the Tenere 700 has been a bike that was thinking about getting... what is your take on this, will the T7 be worth switching to, even thou it will cost me the doubble of what my CB is worth ? I ride gravel roads and forrest roads besides normal driving on pavement aprox 70/30. Looking foreward to hear from you.

[@comfortablyunknown700]

I had a CB500X with the full Rally Raid conversion. I live in Los Angeles and I was always looking for 6th gear with the CBX. With the T7 that I now have, I barely need to go into 5th gear and there is still a 6th. Both bikes have similar nibble handling. The T7 just has so much more power. I am not lucky enough to ride on my imaginary massive property or go across the street for off-road riding. I have to be on the highway for a while, so I need a bike that can handle the higher speeds. The T7 is a champion off-road.

[@comfortablyunknown700]

Also, after doing the full Rally Raid conversion on a new CB500X, you are at the out the door price of the Tenere 700. If you bought a used CB500X then added Rally Raid, you are at the ticket price of the Tenere 700.

[@Dan-qm7ho]

@@comfortablyunknown700 Excellent point....It seems the problems of the T7 in this review is so minor and solvable...The rest is up to us..how we handle the T7 and enjoy its superior engine and basic (great) qualities... bravo...mate

[@FARANDFURTHER]

Sorry for late reply, guys here made good points. I've upgraded to T7 because I was really looking for something which would allow me harder off-road than RR CB500X. If I'd not aspire to ride a rally for example (done Dinaric rally recently) or do a lot of sand riding in Africa there would be no need to upgrade CB500X as it would be enough for the travel. However once you do reach limit (off-road) on CB and you recognise that you reached it the T7 is natural upgrade. I still have CB500X and rode it recently and the difference in handling off-road and standing position is immense... It is up to us to be honest with our needs... Dinaric rally on CB500X would be hard, my previous trip to India I done on CB500X would be less comfortable and more expensive (fuel) on T7....

[@TheWanderingGeezer]

As soon as aftermarket, larger fuel tanks hit the market I may take a closer look at this bike.

[@FARANDFURTHER]

There is an extra fuel tank from CamelAdv: camel-adv.com/collections/yamaha/products/yamaha-t7-camel-tank-auxiliary-fuel-tank-ct-t7

[@comfortablyunknown700]

Sorry for the long, kind of negative comment. The US has become a little sour. When we finally get the T7, I would love to share DIY fixes with you. I am ready to apply a few that you have shared. Thank you

[@FARANDFURTHER]

I'm looking forward to see those DIY fixes coming. I hope they won't push the release date constantly as they push end of COVID-19 lockdown here in Morocco :)

[@bobbybob3447]

@@FARANDFURTHER Hey, Pavel (and Infamously Unknown)! My local dealer (Bend, Oregon, USA) said *yesterday* that they "should" be getting their shipment of T7s before the end of June. Fingers crossed, yes? Hang in there in lockdown, at least Moroccan food is delicious!

[@FARANDFURTHER]

@@bobbybob3447 Yay! It will be cool, all the US guys thirsty for ride after the lockdowns and getting their T7s... there should be some kind of T7 celebration ride for freedom! :) Indeed there are much worse places to be stuck than Morocco, I hope that they lift the lockdown slightly so I can travel within the province. If that happen I'm in sweet spot, I can be by the sea, at the top of 2000m mountains or desert in a single day!

[@andreww5773]

ABS on is a legal requirement in every ignition cycle. No manufacturer (that I know of) allows this feature, and you'd have to do some DIY stuff to get it to behave in such a way.

[@FARANDFURTHER]

I didn't know it's a legal requirement with every ignition cycle. Well I suspected something like that. DIY switch would do nicely.

[@grandiagod]

@@FARANDFURTHER Yeah It's actually a United Nations regulation lol.

[@FARANDFURTHER]

@@grandiagod 😱 I didn't know that the UN cares also about safety and wellbeing of motorcyclists! Well done!

[@TheSharkypeto]

Skvelé, jasné a k veci. Môžem sa opýtať aké sú to pneumatiky? Spokojnosť on/off road? Ďakujem.

[@FARANDFURTHER]

Používám Mitas, měl jsem je na Hondě takže jsem je dal i na T7. Vzadu mám Mitas E-07+ Dakar. Je to 50/50 pneumatika, takže pokud je morkro a bahno tak samozrějmě nefunguje, ale jinak na moje cestování a off-road co dělám... super, douho vydrží a nestojí moc. Vpředu mám teď Continental TKC80, což je změna oproti E-07 na doporučení aby to lépe drželo v písku. A musím říct, že opravdu drží dobře ten předek. Zase, pokud je mokro tak ta TKC80 klouže jak divá, zejména na asfaltu.

[@TheSharkypeto]

@@FARANDFURTHER Ďakujem za informáciu. Môžem sa opýtať aký olej používaš? Interval výmeny? Ďakujem.

[@FARANDFURTHER]

Ahoj, teď v Africe děám výměnu po 6000, je tu horko tak ten olej dostává nakládačku. Zatím jsem měnil olej jen u Yamaha dealerů (kvůli záruce, bylo mi to doporučeno dealerem) takže Yamalube co do toho patří. Ale jinak cokoli co vyhovuje následující specifikaci je OK: YAMALUBE, 10W-40 , API service SG type or higher, JASO standard MA

[@FARANDFURTHER]

Ta výměna u dealera není důležitá, že by dělali něco super nebo měli speciální olej, ale napojí to na diagnostiku a zapíšou tam km kdy se měnil....

[@TheSharkypeto]

@@FARANDFURTHER Ďakujem. Videá sú skvelé. Len tak ďalej.

[@MrGuano11]

Aren't you concerned about the exposed water pump?

[@FARANDFURTHER]

Yes and no... During all my travel and training I've managed to scratch the water pump only with my metal tip on my boots. Initially I thought I'll do some protection for it but it seems fine for now. Still in rocky terrain I think it is exposed and if one would ride hard and drop hard, there is a risk of damaging it. Possibly... lets see on the Dinaric rally in 2 weeks.

[@bradsanders6954]

People seem fascinated with crashing these bikes. Some guys crash them twice a day. I went 50,000 miles on my DR650 bashing it 6 ways from sunday...........no crashes. Is there something Im doing wrong?

[@FARANDFURTHER]

I don't think you do something wrong, on the contrary. I seems to have problem with gravity & my height does not help :)

[@Bob-Maplethorpe]

How is seat comfort for a full day of riding?

[@FARANDFURTHER]

Hi Bob, I have done multiple long days, longest was 900km and I would definitely not say it is uncomfortable but of course after 900km in a saddle you feel it. But it was surprisingly comfortable, I thought it will be worse as the seat is narrower than on CB500X. For me it's comfy enough, although the CB500X seat is of course more comfortable.

[@Bob-Maplethorpe]

@@FARANDFURTHER I have a KLR 650. I love this bike, but want more power for highway riding. Even with my front cog changed to 16t the klr works to hard at 120-130 kmph. It's the simplicity of the klr that I love and am thinking of making the switch to the T700, assuming it is similar in comfort. Thanks for getting back to me!

[@FARANDFURTHER]

Hi Bob, have no experience with KLR650 but the reason I wanted the twin and not single was the comfort, the vibration at the highway speed is very minimal on CB500X and even less on T700. T700 engine is happy at that speed more than the CB500X one was. In terms of power the T700 has more than enough for me with luggage and when I'm doing enduro training it has a bit too much and as it lacks all the bells and whistles it becomes all about skill. These things I really like about T700 I think as I find the T700 being upgraded CB500X you may find it to be upgraded KLR650 ;)

[@fenner-g6088]

The screws for the front fork guards are just plastic m6 number plate screws, I have also added some skateboard wheels on threaded bar through the front axle that stick out slightly further than the vulnerable spigot on the fork bottom. If you have an email address to give me I'll send you some pictures.

[@FARANDFURTHER]

Awesome! I’ll send you my address that sounds like pretty cool idea! Love it!

[@fenner-g6088]

@@FARANDFURTHER Pictures sent fella

[@FARANDFURTHER]

@@fenner-g6088 Checked the solution and it is amazing! I'll definitely implement the same on my T7. BTW I really really contemplated the red/white! Thanks a lot!

[@fenner-g6088]

@@FARANDFURTHER No problem, cheap mod that could save an expensive repair ! Feel free to share in a later video , ride safe.

[@FARANDFURTHER]

Perfect, will put one together and will share & give credit!

[@g18210]

I Think the rear break lever should be wider, or more right

[@FARANDFURTHER]

You mean brake lever? Yes I will modify the brake lever as it also lacks 2 positions one for off-road and one for road. I bend the brake lever all the time so I'd not put it more to the right what I will do is probably change bash plate so it can't bend that much in.

[@g18210]

FAR&FURTHER yes the rear brake lever is not in the right position

[@roadiemort3589]

Just ad a toggle switch inline to the fuse you remove for the ABS problem solved.

[@goatman86]

that is both genius and so simple

[@roadiemort3589]

@@goatman86 Thanks, my first experience with that idea was turning off my odometer in my new 93 GMC pickup, use your imagination why I would do that, hid it inside the glovebox.

[@goatman86]

@@roadiemort3589 My first guess would be to hide the real mileage when reselling but then why hide it. You could have just removed it when selling. It was YOUR new truck so I don't think you had to hide from your Dad or maybe wife ;) so my next bet is on extending the warranty period. That's as far as my imagination will go I'm afraid.

[@roadiemort3589]

@@goatman86 Warranty 60,000 or 4years lol.

[@roadiemort3589]

Truck is long gone but still have same switch lol.

[@Channel-gm3js]

Thans man. I'm on 5000 km now. So ... let's see

[@FARANDFURTHER]

I've moved onto 23000 and not much more to talk about than before ;)

[@toltod]

I didn't' think pulling the fuse disabled abs without any issues.

[@FARANDFURTHER]

Yep it does, only your abs light will come on but that’s fine. Of course it is illegal and frankly makes no sense to ride without abs on public tarmac road. But for off-road in group it’s useful as your not constantly playing with the abs button 😂

[@peterbuckland400]

Hi.Seen one video where if you stall the bike.The abs will still be turned off. But only for a short period because it will drain your battery.

[@nickyyyyy]

Can you pit two people on that bike?

[@user-zs6hg6ww7r]

Yes

[@FARANDFURTHER]

Yes, but you may need stronger spring for longer ride 2 up.

[@g18210]

The exhaust pipe is in wrong position

[@FARANDFURTHER]

Yep, I've done the conversion to the hight exhaust since the video: kzbin.info/www/bejne/mn2zeoKcqqxrrbs

[@PetrHajekHPstylstudio]

Uz jsi ukazal celymu svetu, ze penize jsou cestou k zazitku. Uvital bych tedy, ze pouzijes Yamahu uplne beze zbytku jen tak. Jako prostredek k pohybu. Bez setreni, nebal bych se rici ze bezohledu. A myslim, ze tepve potom ti zacne vyrobek odpovidat. Delam to se svymi vecmi stejne. Bezohledne pouzivani veci s citem pro hranici pouziti. Potom teprve odhalis jejich kvalitu.

[@FARANDFURTHER]

Přesně tak, jedině používáním věci k jejich limitu ukáže co opravdu dokážou. Myslím, že jsem na dobré cestě :) A taky se tak ukáže co změnit a co nechat.

[@michsky46]

Krtecek is from Zeman?

[@FARANDFURTHER]

Rozhodně ne! Od kamarádky pro štěstí!

[@juanito9077]

Yamaha T7 no trae tensor o deslizador de cadena, en offroad se va a salir, mal por Yamaha

[@FARANDFURTHER]

OK

[@scottyd980]

it looks good, but, its really not.

[@FARANDFURTHER]

🤷‍♂️

[@mjadv3680]

just dont drop the bike!

[@FARANDFURTHER]

😂😂😂😂 So easy to say! So hard to do!

[@FARANDFURTHER]

They tried that with lockdown and failed 😂

[@BaconsBrokenBits]

With the abs, at least it's only a button to push and not a full maze of settings to go through.. So I don't see that as a problem

[@FARANDFURTHER]

Indeed. It’s just when I do it 20 times in 2 hours it gets a bit boring :)

[@FARANDFURTHER]

I am 100% grateful the bike actually does not have a menu. It would just be cool to turn off the auto enabling of the ABS in certain conditions, like my training sessions or days doing off-road traveling. But even for that, if I really want a kill switch for ABS could be fabricated.

[@marcutrillogibert9154]

wrong, wrong , wrong, it's a nightmare, 10 hours riding outroad probably you will push the button 30 times

[@FARANDFURTHER]

Yes riding off-road it get tiring a lot. Especially in a group when you are the one who stops all the time because you forgot to turn off the ABS....

[@nostalgicbaainaar9751]

The AJP PR7 has a kill switch that allows you to switch the bike off without having to turn the ignition switch off which keeps all the electronics up and running. Clever idea

[@robsonenduro3316]

For the exhaust problem, just cut it off for sport/shorty one. Watch out for another potential problem - weak, alu peg mounts... Some guys broke them already. BTW I know now I won't replace my old xt660 tenere :)

[@FARANDFURTHER]

Do you think cutting the exhaust to shorty one would solve it? I guess it could, I thought about changing the piping angle so it clears the swing arm. I think I saw people putting shorty exhaust and it solved rubbing off the swing arm but didn't solve the problem of exhaust being bent inwards all the time.

[@Mike.4639]

No problems. Buy an english, german, american or italian bike and you will have real problems to deal with. Eletronic failure, oil leaking, gearbox issues, broken frames ( Áustria) , the list goes on and on. Japanese bikes when it comes to reliability are in another planet. You can but a 1000cc Japanese sportbike and race Le Mans 24 hour race, stock.

[@FARANDFURTHER]

Yep, no real problems at all, most of it is routine maintenance or what I'd consider wear & tear.

[@g18210]

Ktm 790 adv is more reliable than cheap t700

[@nitraaludiavnej4511]

Nerieš hlúposti a jazdi.

[@FARANDFURTHER]

Tak jo.

[@jayanthnayak417]

Are you interested to sell your bike??

[@FARANDFURTHER]

Which one?

[@vilageidgit6222]

YAMAssHAt took 3yrs + to develop the Tenwhere 700, they only needed a chassis,the engine was already in production,thank the Gods they dont make planes or medical equipment The exhaust shoulda been higher like on the Stupor Tenere 1200 easier fix would be to change angle of the can so it clears the swingarm by changing the link pipe along with a replaceable upper bracket instead of welding it to the frame

[@FARANDFURTHER]

When I was back home and we were preparing the bike for the trip, the change of the angle and the pipe was suggested. However it was time consuming and quite costly at the time so I abandoned that idea. It may be relevant though as the swingarm is getting thinner every day...

[@thatseventiesman3865]

Trying to make some money on youtube? How many ads? Too many!

[@FARANDFURTHER]

Actually, I've turned off the non-skippable adds as well as ads in the middle of the video as I hate those myself. I don't really know how many ads the KZbin adds to the videos.

[@comfortablyunknown700]

It is pretty obviously that Yamaha is just running a world wide R&D project. They did just enough R&D to get it out of the factory. Now leaving the rest to the general public. The T7 has been out for almost two years. We here in the US still have not had a chance to ride. We have had a long time to see the faults in the bike. First, and I think most importantly, it is overpriced. There are many other faults we have all heard, nothing too major. In a year or two, Yamaha will put out a new version. Majority of the faults will be corrected....not all. They will add a handful of the parts that were left off this T7....but put on every other ADV bike that came out this year. Then we will see why Yamaha placed that overpriced ticket on this base model. The new version's price tag will be up there along side the bigger ADV bikes that cost an arm and a leg.

[@fenner-g6088]

The "faults" on the T7 are really minor compared with some of it's competitors. I've had mine since last Oct and love it. I agree that it's not a "cheap" bike for what you get, but it's still a great all round bike.

[@comfortablyunknown700]

@@fenner-g6088 I did say the faults are "not major" aka "minor". They do play a role when adding the cost to fixing the faults, on top of the initial bike price. So, all are worth mentioning, even if minor.

[@FARANDFURTHER]

I can feel the frustration of the US market over this bike, it has been kind of never ending story really. I'm sorry. I suspect that what you see comming in a year or two will most likely happen, I think there could be 2021/2022 upgrade. I had that with Honda CBC500X, when I bought it in 2013 and later in 2019 they released new version which had almost all modifications I added to my old model. Honda did keep the same price though so it made a 2019 model a good deal. I hope Yamaha will do similar thing with T7, in a bit shorter time frame.

[@bobbybob3447]

I disagree that's it's a "world wide R&D project." I've worked in the industry (on the media side) and Yamaha has correctly priced this bike for what it is. They did NOT want it to be overly heavy (oy, the complaints from riders that anything over 400lbs is not an ADV...), they did not want to add cost with all kinds of electronics or making it "rally ready."* The only other mid-size near that price is the BMW F750GS which only adds stability control and 2 ride modes but costs $1,000 more and comes with cast wheels. And the T7 is lighter than all of the competition except for the KTM 790 Adventure (not the R), CB500X and the 2018 (!) KLR650 (still available at a lot of dealerships). After those bikes the prices jump thousands of dollars but you basically only get more electronics and 50+lbs more weight. Even that KTM *starts* at $13,249 (including delivery) but the goodies like Rally Mode, quick shifter and cruise control are all extra. Even those bikes are going to want stuff like crash bars, bash plates, Barkbusters, etc. So even throwing a grand or two at the T7 still gets you a great bike with little if any sacrifice to those others and a few grand saved. And maybe you *are* right--maybe the T7 should be priced closer to the MT-07 or MT-09 but it is what it is--and that, from all of the reviews I've seen, is pretty damn good, on-road AND off. The keys the reviewers all like are: easy to ride, good power for the size, reasonably comfortable, easy to handle off-road. *Re: "rally ready": the honest truth is that a LOT of these bikes are purchased for their looks and/or "aspirationally" ("Yeah--I'm going to ride to the Arctic Circle now!") and will never go off road or on anything more challenging than a graded dirt/gravel/logging road (likely me to be honest because I don't have extensive dirt-riding experience). So that's why they don't come ready to go-around-the-world because adding all the guards, racks, and electronics would jack up the cost--like a fully outfitted KTM or BMW will.

[@comfortablyunknown700]

@@bobbybob3447 many very good points.

[@ram25004fun]

You lost me at the behinning dude...you should stay home

[@FARANDFURTHER]

🤔 nope, I like to ride...