The new "Middleweight" motorcycle category is unhinged

[@yammienoob]

The S1000RR might as well be a "middleweight" now lol. Win one over at yammienoo.co !

[@Win7ermu7e]

F900R fits right in this category, Yam.

[@christianburger25]

The Busa is the best middleweight!

[@tommynunemann1117]

Link is bogus

[@tckpsa]

My z900 being considered in the same class as a 400 cc bike is insane.

[@Highway9mm]

Motorcycle displacements should be categorized similarly to UFC weight class nomenclature. Flyweight: < 249cc Lightweight: 250cc - 499cc Middle weight: 500cc - 799cc Light heavyweight: 800cc - 989cc Heavyweight: 990cc - 1199cc Super Heavyweight: 1200cc +

[@robinv2758]

Tbh that still wouldn't clarify much, as mentioned in the video a ZX4RR (which is a rare exception for a new bike) is competing with the likes of the R7 and GSX8R, you've got the Triumph Street Triple 765 competing with the likes of the Duke 890 and MT09, Aprilia RS660 vs Ducati Supersport 950. There's too many manufacturers making too many different bikes to make a clear classification based simply on displacement. And that's only the modern market, if you add bikes that are out of production you have an endless amount of variety and bikes that don't fit in a displacement based classification like the 2 strokes which even in a 249cc package can push out the same power as the 689cc Yamaha twin and the 399cc Kawasaki I4, now you've got bikes from 3 different classes pushing the same power. It's just impossible

[@Dangerwiggles]

Yes, but by different names. We use Ultralight/ welterweight Featherweight Lightweight Middleweight Heavyweight Unlimited

[@cmpmendes]

Agreed but want to leave a caviat. A 499;is not middleweight. It's a full sized bike.already.

[@YAMR1M]

SO the current lightweight class bikes are generally below 60bhp and middle weight bikes are usually sub 120bhp with the full size bigger bikes over 120bhp.

[@Jagshemasher]

Sumo-weight: Any 1000cc+ V-Twin Bagger or 1000 cc Touring Bike (Honda Gold Wings, BMW K1600s and BMW R1800)

[@irdriel7760]

I think variety is a good thing. I'm glad middleweights aren't all precisely 650cc.

[@yasugi0153]

yeah the old fat 650s are lame

[@lateknights1]

The first Super Duke used to be 990 and made less power than the current 990 Duke

[@robinv2758]

While the power difference is very small it is a good showcase of how far they've come. Even with nearly the same displacement the new bike is significantly more restricted than the original Superduke and yet it still makes more power

[@Wileylikethehawk]

Started on a 95 Honda VFR750 and frankly I can’t imagine how I’m gonna replace it. It’s just so good. There’s nothing to upgrade to!

[@davidbrayshaw3529]

How refreshing it is to read someone express their gratitude and appreciation for what they have. Quality and functionality don't date. And just because something is newer doesn't make it better.

[@SansSentiments]

ever sat on a H2 SX?

[@bryantburn8191]

​@@SansSentimentsyeah bro that's cool. Have fun working on it.

[@austinc1073]

I would say just get an 8th or 5th gen vfr then

[@jehdbrbjeirodofjdjebeebbsnaka]

was it hard starting on a heavier bike?

[@craigdeeter8042]

For me middleweight is from 500 - 750cc, 50-90 hp

[@IMWALKINHEERE9739]

@@Project-E250 read the second part buddy drz400 is disqualified in his statement

[@alejandrotobienne8220]

Yeah in a V twin or parallel cause a 750 inline is making 130+ and that’s before handing it over to a race team.

[@IMWALKINHEERE9739]

@@alejandrotobienne8220 why is everyone just ignoring the 50-90hp part

[@1uke69er]

For me middle weight is 180-210kg

[@ekspatriat]

Come to think of it the 'weight' class should just be HP (Except piss-poor Harleys that make shit HP no matter what capacity)@@IMWALKINHEERE9739

[@zedlav6975]

Right, most powerful bike I ever owned was a Ducati 999 at ~130HP. A superbike. Now the 600s are getting close to that, my back hurts, and I'm looking at Royal Enfield 350s.

[@ilikelampshades6]

All the subtle changes from sports bikes to more ergonomic has led us to modern naked bikes and retro bikes. My Triumph T120 has perfect ergonomics, so comfortable for long rides, produces about 85bhp and 110NM torque. Its an absolute amazing all rounder. Great for cruising, touring, commuting, 2-up riding, having fun (its not crazy but faster than most middlesweights), is physically small and not intimidating for new riders (my first bike). Plus the looks are to die for

[@ryanoliver-vi9gm]

Which is why imo the new so called Daytona should be based on that engine.

[@sdot13tube]

I bought a 2024 790 duke as a beginner , but I’m 6’3” 210… perfection

[@omojjegomosc8211]

You wouldn’t feet ninja 400? Or sv650? I’m serious cause I’m have same height and weight. Looking for bike as well

[@sdot13tube]

@@omojjegomosc8211 ninja 400, nope. Sv650 I could have but it still had a lot of bend because of the height. I just liked the KTM better, actually picked it over the MT-07 which is what I thought wanted until I sat on the 790 and it was a bit taller. The MT-07 is a good option for tall guys too.

[@VroomNDoom2602]

Man, I wish I had the money to learn how to ride like those KTM videos. I wouldn't dare drift my FZ-07.

[@trevor2830]

Wayyy too torquey imagine the 09 with its twitchy throttle 😆

[@Jagshemasher]

A lot of bikes you see drifting are fitted with oversize rear sprockets to allow the engine to easily break the tire's traction and they have plenty of money to burn, burning out the tires. if the tire suddenly regains grip all the power would loop the bike. Practice and experience help - these guys didn't start by learning how to do this on super high powered bikes.

[@trevor2830]

@Jagshemasher exactly just like other stunters whose bikes are fitted and tuned to suit

[@TheDieselguy65]

A lot of guys learn on a 450f supermoto

[@trevor2830]

​@TheDieselguy65 what's a 450 like compared to a mt07?

[@rodrigojustiniano7144]

Bro, I'm getting addicted to your videos. I got my first bike 3 weeks ago and all I do is watch motorcycle KZbin videos and day-dream with all the mods I wanna get for my bike 😂

[@masrvneck4201]

Welcome aboard

[@cmpmendes]

Don't go down that rabbit hole man...

[@Wileylikethehawk]

Spend some time practicing and learning your bike before you worry about modding.

[@vivaamoto]

learn yo ride..first

[@rodrigojustiniano7144]

Thank you all for the wise comments. I will be practicing more often now that I have my motorcycle endorsement.

[@logcru]

I actually did ride my 2023 390 duke 30min to and from work almost every day in the snow this year. It was a very warm winter in Michigan

[@cycoklr]

50hp is enough to cruise comfortably at 80mph, enough grunt to pull out of tight spots and will not try to kill the rider.

[@Ramonatho]

My 37hp bike can hit 115, I'm pretty sure the big displacement fans are just full of shit when they say small bikes aren't "fast enough "

[@geeeee_trippin]

I totally agree and I'll proceed to buy a R6

[@mattsloop2736]

Had an NC 700x and it had 50hp. While it would do 80. You had to plan your passes on the highway well in advance. It actually sucked riding it over 70 cause you couldn't just pass a car

[@nullshock3381]

I love my 22 SV650, fast when I "need" it, and fun for just cruising around.

[@Shketri94]

best bike

[@nullshock3381]

​@@Shketri94Agreed, there are other fun bikes, but best over all imho SV650.

[@amerigo88]

​@@nullshock3381It sounds like my Kawasaki KLR 650. It's a great all-around bike, but not great at anything in particular (offroad, streets or highways).

[@ryanoliver-vi9gm]

This!! Suzuki should’ve made a fully faired sv650 with the engine reworked a little bit

[@ConsumeYourSoul619]

​@@ryanoliver-vi9gmthey did... the sv650s ?

[@davidskinner9276]

It's a great time to be a motorcyclist.. Lots of options.

[@luthertju]

many options but not enough money 🤕

[@OvieIroroRacing]

Did you forget Honda existed?

[@seafooddiablo5686]

He doesn't like honda, apparently too good/boring for him.

[@terdroblade]

The CBR600FA is the best middleweight i had the pleasure riding (at least for someone my size: 1.75m, 70kg). If i had a choice of any of these middleweight from the video, id still got for the honda without second though. So good i got a second one after my first got totaled. I have to give the new cbr650r a go to see how it compares, havent had a chance to take one for a spin yet/

[@adam346]

I think a Honda bit him as a child and now he views them as existing but barely worth mentioning lest his ankle/elbow begin to ache at the memory.

[@Mrmoocows99]

@@seafooddiablo5686 He's got videos saying that a CB500x is the best beginner bike.

[@seafooddiablo5686]

@Mrmoocows99 because hondas are awesome, i got a new SCL500 scrambler, and if u only watch his channel, you wouldn't know it existed. He just doesn't seem to like honda was my only point.

[@paulsalmon3056]

I think Europe in general does it well. Here in France i got my license less than 2 years ago so until i have 2 years of experience im legally required to have a bike with at most 47,5hp(if abs). I just got a 13' ER6N reduced to 47,5 and ive gotta say you still get a lot of bike imo

[@davidbrayshaw3529]

For 99% of riders, 99% of the time, something like your bike is ideal. Ego drives a lot of riders to make terrible decisions when purchasing motorcycles. We have a real habit of purchasing status symbols rather than machines that are fit for our use case.

[@Morgazmz]

Euro ruins the entire motor industry with its emissions BS

[@johnnyb9620]

​@@Morgazmz it's not like us regular Europeans like it, though. As always it's governments that f* us up, just like the government in the US does lots of stuff that does not benefit the people.

[@chielb]

I’m based in the Netherlands, opted for a Honda CB650F as my starter bike. Like it alot!

[@BlackArroToons]

Good video about the progress from the Ninja 250R, which I started with years ago, and am happy with the '21 Ninja 650 in 2024 as I never want to race on the roads and never take it to the track, so it does everything I want for a fun, scenic ride with plenty of power for my riding style.

[@wolfy_moto]

This is very informative and entertaining at the same time! Thanks Yammie!

[@johnnymoore7480]

For me my 2001 Bandit is a middle weight! Before it I had a HD Super glide 96 cubic inch 😎

[@karpooooff]

bought a 2023 KTM 790 duke 3 weeks ago and absolutely love it as my first bike!

[@OnDrums77]

Just call it: beginner 250-350 lightweight -400-550 , middleweight 600 800 light heavyweight, 850-950 and heavyweight 1000+

[@Bikesandreview]

It is crazy. I started on z900 se and love it still. Looking at z h2 next. I will say to me less than 50 hp is nothing. Thats why I started big. It now has 24000 miles on it.

[@ahmedbadri3911]

Same i just started on a z900 2022 model, its a pretty peppy bike yes its fast but sounds so good with an exhaust

[@Ramonatho]

Ah yes, less than 50 hp being nothing, yet my 37 hp bike can go 115...

[@Bikesandreview]

Still better than a car but when you can do 160 plus you will see what I mean.

[@chadrichards8930]

​@Ramonatho 115 is nothing and keep in mind that's just what your speedometer says. It's closer to 109 mph either way, yes 37 hp I'd laughable

[@kugangles9860]

I loved the SV650. I bought a brand new 1999 SV650 "S" version just days after completing my MSF course. Those were some good times.

[@tennysontibbetts3863]

Sv650 is dope, got 2017 for $4000 bout 3 years ago and i daily ride it to work and class every day, i love it

[@YammiePro]

Started on my 86 gpz900r, took 30 yrs off and now on a 23 mt7.the r9 might be next!

[@petejr7774]

My progression went like this...I started riding a Ruckus about 6 years ago..killed the streets in it for a couple years, then got a grome clone to get used to shifting. After a couple thousand miles on it I traded for a Buell Blast 500. It was great! I finished the summer with it and crushed the next riding season and now upgraded to a Yamaha FJR 1300..it's fast!

[@cmpmendes]

Now that's a weird but cool ladder you climbed. GG

[@SkylerB17]

Ill stick to my little 249cc cruiser for now til i hopefully get either the CFmoto 450ss or a 650 ADV bike within the next year or two. I feel like motorcycle "weight" class should be measured by horsepower rather than engine size, given examples of the zx-4rr being closer to lightweight in terms of displacement but a bit higher on power closer to a more "classic" middleweight.

[@danlzlz8405]

I've had no issues moving from a ktm rc390, rode it for three years, to an Aprilia v4 1100 tuono factory today.

[@donhalphin9666]

You a the best motorcycle channel! I don’t even own a bike yet here I am 5 years later still watching waiting to pull the trigger… I might get a scooter and ride is slides

[@jcore_2]

I started and still ride a gsx-s750. Its definitely long in the tooth, being essentially the same from 2015-2023. Its easy to ride despite its heft, and really wakes up at 5k+. Below that its pretty docile. I still have fun riding it 🤷‍♂️

[@ViscountAlbany]

Triumph kind of started the lower and higher middleweight bikes trend with their early 90s bikes offered as similar 750 and 900 models, but it wasn't marketed as such

[@darko_lengkeek-jakupovic]

Early, but yup, right on this one. modern "middle weights" are nuts and don't deserve that label.

[@Dangerwiggles]

It's all marketing. They wouldn't sell anything if they listed it as heavyweight.

[@Dangerwiggles]

I think typically race categories are determined partly by cc but taking HP into account. Ie. SV650 is considered lightweight, R6 is middleweight (because a 600 SS has considerably more power than the 650) Don't be confused, R3 & Ninja 400 is featherweight. 1000s get towards heavy weight, and stuff like Ducati V2 & V4 are unlimited. I just dont think we should consider street bikes as certain categories just based on cc. (I mean shit, the KLR650 has like 30hp at best, vs 80+ from the SV. Both are 650cc). I think the manufacturers arent actually calling their 750+ middleweight, but they wouldnt sell anything if they called it heavyweight. It's just for sales.

[@mala7794]

u can set a line in the middleweight> 650- 700cc and 750-900+cc

[@jonobester5817]

What about my fav bike? Triumph Triple??

[@BigBurak3313]

Am I too European to understand this rant ? Begginner bike for a full A license was an Mt-07/Yamaha XJ6 for me and other schools i know used Suzuki Gladius/SV650 or CB650. Taking about 250 or 500cc as a begginer bike means that u use A2 license and not A and you wouldnt see these small bikes when training or getting a license. Why would you pay twice to get a motorcycle license first getting A2 and then A. The only reason is age as A2 can be made as an 18 year old while A only when 24 years or older (when you have A2 and want to upgrade you can do it earlier). I mostly rode MT-07 and got my license on one and my first bike was a Kawasaki ZR7 whch is going to be swapped shortly for a Street Triple 675 or FZ06 most likely.

[@rottweilerfun9520]

How many different licenses do you have to go through until you can ride whatever you want ? How do you go through the levels ? Is it based on time , mileage, or testing ?

[@deanadams4744]

Started on a Kawasaki z900 i love the bike do no regret it and was no need to buy a bike after 6months as you get bored. There is a bike for everyone these days 👍

[@JasperSchaaf-ub9yg]

Ah yes, my daily dose of papa Yam. Right on time

[@raihanalrazni4696]

0:55 for a second there it trips me out to see indonesian languange on papa yam’s video😂

[@kevinfarmer7896]

Started on a 390 Duke, rode for 2 seasons, then bought a 790 Duke, 990 is tempting, but 790 is plenty fun

[@keithsmith9889]

I will never forget the profound affect the monster in the crow movie had on me. It was at that moment i knew I must own one.

[@plasticbanana1372]

Street triple ❤

[@sirprise9548]

A very cool option a buddy and i are gonna take is getting a CB650R and (because of the A2 license restrictions) get it down tuned (which is something Honda offers) to 35 kW and then unlock it back to its original 70kW once we get our A license. Basically 2 bikes for the price of 1.5 (lets face it 10k for a first bike is quite a lot)

[@rutukedarbhagwat1746]

your beginner bikes are classified as middleweight bikes in my country, India. Here, 110-200 cc is a beginner bike and currently the market is getting flooded with bikes in this range, as well as the 200-500cc range. We couldn't be any happier with the amount of options we get to choose from, but sadly not me. I take the bus

[@edabrego9217]

Well, in Mexico a beginner bike is around 125-250 cc, while 300-450 cc are the entry level of the high performance motorcycles. But it's cause here the >250 cc bike are chapest and even a cf moto 450 is expensive for the majority of population

[@Jagshemasher]

Hopefully you'll be able to afford a bike one day.

[@chaitanyashamanewadikar6032]

Us moment (I do have a bike, but still takes a bus)

[@rutukedarbhagwat1746]

@@edabrego9217 does yamaha sell r15 over there?

[@edabrego9217]

@@rutukedarbhagwat1746 not too much, it cost around $5900 usd, for that price you can find a second hand ninja 400 or RC 390 in good conditions. In Mexico yamaha is the most expensive between japanese trademarks.

[@KarlBuckley-bw3vc]

I started riding on a 2014 FZ-09 and never crashed or dropped it. I had the bike from new until 2021, when i traded in the old girl for a 2021 Ducati Streetfighter V4S. You can absolutely start on a bigger displacement bike, providing you have a steady, controlled right wrist.

[@mencibenci]

most new riders with absolutely zero experience will make all kinds of dumbass newb mistakes, I know I did, and it’s much better to be wonky and unsure on a smaller bike than on some 600cc+ rocket. a sub-300cc will be a lot more forgiving than something you can whiskey throttle into a tree in half a second flat. also, and this is even more important, while you’re learning the controls and building the muscle memory on just how to ride a bike, how to behave in traffic, what to pay attention to, all that, you don’t want to divide your attention further by also having to struggle with the bike actively trying to kill you. it’s like learning the basics of horseback riding on some sassy race horse that can throw you off any second vs a tame and slow horse especially for newbs. it’s a no-brainer. most people will have a bad time if they don’t start slow.

[@Jagshemasher]

I think its so difficult these days because there are really three factors involved 1) The weight of the bike, 2) The engine power characteristics and 3) The engine power output. Seeing as we no longer have peaky two-stroke bikes readily available for road use (which threw everything through a loop), then based on weight, the classifications IMO would be 0 - 375 lbs light, 375 - 550 lbs, middle, 550-700 lbs heavy, 700+ lbs lard-ass. Based on what rpm peak power is developed < 6500 rpm friendly, 6500 - 10,000 rpm frisky, 10,000+ rpm savage. Based on power 0 - 25 HP tame, 25 - 50 HP manageable, 50 - 110 HP entertaining, 110 - 160 HP frightening, 160 HP+ terrifying. For the sake of survival beginners should generally stay away from any bike where weight exceeds middle, and engine peak power rpm exceeds frisky and engine power exceeds the middle of the entertaining range. Once they have survived the first year or two they will learn what type of bike suits them. I have two bikes 1. Ninja 400 - Light, Frisky, Manageable and 2. FJR1300 - Heavy, Frisky, Frightening. All the foregoing is based on road bikes for "normal" riders - not people who have been riding YZ250's since they were 6 years old!

[@Squatch244]

I did start my journey on a 05 Thunder Blue Ninja 500R. Decent bike overall.

[@county_bear9509]

and i went from a 400 and realized i wanted long distance sporty fun and bought an fjr 1300 after less than a year. I'm also only 5'3 150lbs. This bike launches easy and runs with the mt09

[@sovan_404]

you didn't mention about the triumph 660 cc triple-cylinder platform.

[@cmpmendes]

Nor the 650 inline 4 from honda.

[@ryanoliver-vi9gm]

Because they make no sense. This market is ruled by twins! Want to know why? It’s because the twins are the fastest growing segment in racing. Aprilia Suzuki Yamaha understood this and made bike to fit this category. I’m all for a triple I love my street triple r but if making a so called Daytona why not just take a street triple r and throw fairings on it? Now we have a overweight underpowered wanna be

[@SaberToothLawnTigers]

My 2009 ninja 250 was such a good first bike, bought off a sketchy guy but ran good, didnt do a thing to it, ran great every day summer and winter. would deff buy again

[@Nanoamps]

I tried hard to learn something. not sure I did but, really enjoyed this, and I can't stop laughing

[@Calam1ty08]

the sv650 has two versions as far as I know.. there's a lams(learner approved motorcycle scheme) version in New Zealand which is like 46hp and then there's the high output version that makes the 75hp, same with the mt07 in nz, lams version and high output!

[@MrAlexander137]

Surprised you’ve not mentioned the Triumph Trident or Daytona 660 which by most is considered a “Beginner” bike yet providing 660cc from a 3Cyl.

[@Mr_Phoskitos]

The first time I understood that the ZX6R was faster than the Ninja 650, besides having less displacement... That day I realized I knew shit and that I wasn't really understanding anything 😂

[@unodostreshuevo]

funny how you're talking about parallel twin 250 ninja, but showing a single cylinder 250 sl

[@36shadowboy]

The stuff about people wanting to start with "more bike" is so real. I got a ninja 400 because it felt like the "premium" beginner bike and I'm probably not gonna be able to upgrade for a year or two since it's my only form of transportation and selling Bike 1 to buy Bike 2 isn't an option

[@matteoperuzzi184]

here in Italy all the bikes ridable with A2 license (35kw max) are considered entry level and not middleweight. also all the bikes that make less than 70 kw makes them legally detunable to 35kw in order to be ridden with A2, that made those middleweight bikes be called entry levels. so I pretty much think that this change in power and engine displacement si more of a license logic thing then anything.

[@JinanNLipdo]

This videos title is accurate. It's an absolutely chaotic video

[@ashtonsyy5400]

A guy in a my riding group has a duke and stays in first tapping the throttle throughout the city. Im not fast enough to ride next to him but when I we start you can literally see the torque difference between the group

[@2wheeloperator185]

Yammie forgetting about Triumphs beginner and middleweights 😲

[@bolosandninjarolls]

The bikes should be categorized by their horsepower and torque as opposed to displacement imo. It's really tough to get the point across that the 400cc inline 4 makes as much power as the 800cc parallel twin. For some reason people just dont accept the fact that more cylinders just means more horsepower and thats just how the math goes.

[@ExStefen]

I have a Yamaha R125 Monster edition since 2020 and I have never upgraded since. Might do at some point

[@ThunderApache]

Like this, more options, more complications, more fun!!!!!!!!!

[@bewareofmountainlions4429]

I wasn't a sport bike chad. I just didn't own a car, and the only vehicle I could use was my brother's 636r as it's what he had to lend me. 45 minutes to work one way; freezing cold or rain I didn't have a choice. I had to get to work 😅.I fully admit it sucked for the first 2 months. Then you get used to it, and it did make me a more comfortable, more skilled, and more conscious rider.

[@James-sm6vm]

The Maasai greet each other by spitting? 😂😂. I'm Kenyan and will neither confirm nor deny.

[@mylexicon2]

Times change, I guess. A 250cc parallel twin does not cost less to manufacture than a 500cc parallel twin, but people are willing to pay more for the 500cc twin because we've been trained to pay for power and performance. Since the manufacturers have spent a fortune training consumers to pay for performance, there aren't a lot of options to deal with rising costs. If the cost of manufacturing and materials rise, you've got to sell performance, and then sell tech to keep people safe by limiting the performance.

[@kingdavid2018]

1988 HONDA NT650 HAWK GT (or Bros) was the first "standard" middle weight naked bike

[@RaineH71]

Great video. Very informative. Thinking of getting into bikes but feel I am too old for a beginner lol.

[@xorbe2]

Everything wants to be a middleweight since the label sells well. Like when car manufs tried to call 4-door cars coupes at one point.

[@grtbgf]

There are no categories anymore, you can literally choose any hp/ccm combination. Why are we still complaining about abundance? Oh yes, for yt content.

[@currycel470]

Superbike ~200 bhp Middleweight ~ 110 bhp Beginner bike ~ 45 bhp 3rd world Beginner bike ~ 125 cc 15 bhp

[@deant6627]

Personally I feel bikes like the Z900 & MT09 don't fall into the middleweight category, these bikes are no joke.

[@legoseller4496]

Hard to decide on what I swap my 07 CBF600 for. Keep the same 'retro' styling with a modern update in the SV650 (with a more lively V-twin powerplant)? Or get a few more creature comforts with the GSX-8S? But since both of those have similar power to my current bike... what if I get a small jump up the pecking order and go for a Street Triple 765 - so more bang in a similar ergonomic package? Decisions, decisions... Or maybe I consider the new middleweight "adventure" and touring options, if I want something that can pull double-duty as a tourer (I mainly commute).

[@marchettejw]

and i'm over here happy with my 47 HP Royal Enfield Interceptor 650...

[@Annoy51]

Ok, so its a half hour ride, and it goes down and up, and the snow part is optional, its mostly ice. Ktm rc390, with winter tires (anlas wintergrip +)

[@michaelmcdonald1620]

give your editor a raise after this one lol

[@hotboxgaming9824]

Here in Mexico all main brands still have starters from 250cc And Chinese bikes that are cheaper have even smaller displacements I think 100 are the smallest you can legally drive around main roads. If you order domino’s in Mexico I guarantee the guy will arrive in a white Honda cargo 125/150

[@CyberChrist]

Well, my first middleweight was an '01 Ducati 750 Sport ^^ It was quite tame and reliable compared to my '96 Aprilia 125 RS :P

[@Death666wish]

Pfft, making sense? Forget that, make all the bikes!!

[@Milkman2199]

Zx4rr bit was funny. I actually really like that bike conceptually because it allows this pseudo super sport class to still exist, be committed and fun, and still meet emissions standards. I was really hoping it would stimulate some similar bikes from other manufacturers but so far nothing. I would give just about anything for Honda to bring back the nc30. Or Yamaha to at least do something cool.

[@GabrielGames100]

i started on and still have my 1995 EX500 :D

[@SuperSpruce]

There should be a distinction between bikes like thr GZ250 (250cc, 20hp), and the Ninja 400 (45hp). The jump between those two bikes is massive, I can immediately tell the immense difference between my barely highway capable bike and my friend's faster than most cars, wheelie capable bike.

[@ΑλεξανδροςΑμανατιδης-ι7ε]

A 45 hp motorcycle is not faster than most cars . I learned riding on a 48 hp bike and it was completely tame . Bikes get dangerous in terms of power when they are powerful enough to lose rear traction under normal conditions or powerwheelie .

[@Anactualrealperson]

Dude my 99 is still running strong as all hell

[@FELiPES101]

i dont even have a bike and can maneuver the market knowing what is beginner and what is middleweight so I think this is a non-issue

[@Drifthut]

Honda hawk gt was really the first modern naked bike.

[@remnbig31]

The Market atm for a nuub beginer like myself is allover the place. Thank for some clarifications but still have lods to learn!

[@royevans4581]

Just get a 'busa and put it on C setting for a week until you get used to it. You'll be right. 👍👍

[@mostafahassani485]

AAAAh Riding brothers and sisters, you have no idea how lucky you are that you can legally ride anything more than 250cc in your countries. Let alone that it is legal for girls to get a riding license there. Count your blessings. With love, your Iranian brother who is stuck with a 230cc Chinese bike.

[@alessandrosoranzio5227]

"uphill both ways"

[@joshjynx01]

Any chance you’ll include Canada, in your giveaways, anytime soon?

[@ak-whiskershuckstable3160]

No mention of the FZ8 is crazy

[@antoniovanci1024]

Now i just want a 765 RS and an S1000RR

[@msaint187]

I loved my first bike zzr250 for the two weeks I had it 😢 dropped it knocked my self out doing 20kms an hour then got a vstar 650 after five or six years I got an m109r haven't looked back

[@Benjamin-xv2hg]

I recently went around looking for whatever they had last year's models on sale for, asked for an sv650. Was told we're phasing them out but here's an 800. He says it had a very linear throttle feel or some excuse to make it more approachable. All I thought is I'm just a more linear idiot. And don't need that much bike to get to work. I live around a sub base, a casino and a college traffic is as terrible as the roads are.

[@coreysprings5892]

Starting on a 636 after a summer on a 125cc pit bike 😂🤣,yammmmy I’d say 120hp isssntt horrible the dang 05/06 636 has 130 YOU JUST HAVE TO BE SENSIBLE WHEN TO USE THE POWER🙌🏾👌🏽

[@jamesgeorge4874]

It's cheaper to build a twin, and more "consumer friendly" , ideal for expanding the base.

[@Nyundo-vlogs]

yo yammie noob the dude , everything about the video is 100% correct apart from the fun fact part as a squid from Kenya I can confirm that theres no such thing a spitting as a form of greeting , we are civilized people you know 🙄🙄