Yard Operations on the C.R.A.P. in Railroads Online!

Hey everyone back with Railroads Online! Today Hyce and I are going to do multiple yard operations around the smelter to deliver more iron and cordwood! Hopefully with these deliveries we can start making enough money to buy bigger and better locomotives!
Make sure to check out Hyce's channel: / @hyce777
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[@newcyberwolf2567]

They should just start every video of Railroads Online with "welcome back to another video of train facts with KAN and Hyce." 🙂

[@ArinJager1]

♪ _Welcome back to timberborners_ ♪ (wait, wrong channel!) "Welcome back to timber-haulers!" (nah, they don't haul just timber)

[@lowrangemaniac5326]

I have a passion for trains, especially for steam trains so... I love train facts with hyce and kan!

[@andipandabear1]

@@ArinJager1 ah, a fellow RCE fan approaches…

[@riparadis]

Lol 😂 !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[@Transportationspotting]

@@lowrangemaniac5326 I agree

[@alexpym8216]

Not gonna lie, the runaway trains are always fun to watch!

[@rayregula]

I want see it happen more, though I am sorry Hyce has to deal with it crashing.

[@SwordlordRoy]

"The manager who's always hovering over your shoulder, making sure you put the bolt in the right place..." Kan, the word you're looking for is Micromanager...and I've dealt with one or two so I completely understand.

[@leonkernan]

I love these kAN and Hyce catch-ups where we just get to watch them hang out

[@mrmorphine2003]

i would love to see someone make an animation of Hyce Teaching kAN about the ways of the railroad, anyone else?

[@kabato48]

My whole basement is an O scale layout! It's an addiction lol. We didn't lay our track by hand but we did use flex track for everything so all radiuses and straights were set by me.

[@WhichIsIt]

Sounds expensive, What’s your favorite part of building?

[@kabato48]

@@WhichIsIt we have a good amount of money invested in it but we tend to buy used stuff since we weather everything to make it look well used anyways. I love designing track plans. Guess that's why I enjoy railroads online as well.

[@Transportationspotting]

We have a shed that is a OO layout, great fun in there although triple points did feel like a mistake while wiring…

[@patrickhector]

Radii*

[@kabato48]

@@patrickhector both variations can be used and be good in the eyes of the oxford dictionary.

[@cmc_craft1142]

I always tune into these RO VIDS

[@jeremyfuller2006]

I always had a love for steam locomotives, but I always enjoyed watching yours and hyces videos and now I know why. As you both are mechanical engineers, I went for an associates in mechanical technologies and I also work in a aluminum manufacturing factory for automotive materials.

[@JustinTheStreamer]

I love this series! Keep it up!

[@Rufus_Pufus]

Kan, something ski areas do to keep the water they use to blow snow is to keep the water moving; this is also why rivers tend to freeze.

[@p3chv0gel22]

Wait Aren't rivers less likely to freeze than standing water?

[@nulano]

@@p3chv0gel22 I think they meant to say "that's why rivers tend **not** to freeze".

[@jimrussell4062]

You guys make a great team!

[@jan_franzke]

Um. I gotta correct you on the antifreeze rant a bit there, bud. "There's a reason why your house doesn't use water for example, right?" yes it does? Most radiators (even underfloor heating, if not straight electrical) uses water to transport heat from the boiler. There might be some herbizide in there, but you you refill it with tap water! And with cars you absolutely can use destilled water, no problem. What do you think premix coolant is? It's just water and antifreeze, the ratio of which defines the freezing point of that mixture. Water is still the better coolant in that mix, by a factor of more than two. In terms of specific heat there just isn't anything better that we can use for cooling! The only two downsides are the freezing point and its corrosion inducing qualities, which usually can be fixed with additives (that make the mix a worse coolant). Oh and 11:30 antifreeze is NOT a refrigerant and refrigerants are NOT used to cool engines, just wanted to point that out, maybe you misspoke but this comment really got me upset for a minute.

[@notbob555]

Man, that's what I was thinking. Kan been out of the industry too long. His brain be forgettin'.

[@rustymozzy]

R718 is a cheap and effective refrigerant. It's simple to fill and empty a system, and it's quite low impact on the environment. It's used to cool various things, including diesel trains. The R718 has mass of 18g/mol... hence the name. R718 is H2O. It's water. Water is a refrigerant. Edit: I missed adding that R means refrigerant and 7 means an inorganic refrigerant...

[@ruldadsly]

I'd love to play with these two on RRO! I'd learn so much!

[@danielcole9178]

They should add a telegraph car/caboose so you can teleport back to your train

[@caleblowrance9604]

They should make that a feature of the caboose

[@lazypizzaship8911]

That could be overpowered, right now if I make good track I can just set my train and tp to the destination and it arrives with barely any effort. It kinda loses the excitement of running a train already if used improperly. And it's fun to have runaways

[@thesteamengineer442]

It would be way too unrealistic and would ruin the charm of the game in my opinion

[@danielcole9178]

@TheSteamEngineer yeah, because teleporting around the map is totally realistic

[@danielcole9178]

@lazy pizza ship how is that overpowered? If you can already teleport to set switches, why not be able to teleport back. It would basically be the same as sending a signal to the switch on the map with the click of a button. This requires more work, and makes playing single player more viable so you don't have to abandon your train when it could be barreling down a 4% grade turn before your switch

[@rayregula]

I just finished watching this and just now noticed that it was an hour long. I thought it was the typical 20-30 minutes but was so entertained I did not notice it was longer then usual

[@pascal2085]

Yeah more C.R.A.P. videos

[@slickrick8279]

"apply heat or apply hammer" I need a t shirt with that quote

[@timekeeper935]

Btw I know exactly what movie you guys are talking about, just watched it for the umpteenth time, still one of my favorite movies. And it’s funny because I was wondering if you guys have ever seen it. And for anyone wondering what movie it’s called Unstoppable

[@AlexanderBurgers]

It drives all the train guys nuts cause of inaccuracies / creative liberty taken with physics to make the movie more spectacular. :D

[@alexanderrobinson2335]

This is one of my favorite KZbin series at the moment. Keep it up guys 🙂

[@graska_8364]

I have one piece of advice for you. Reverser varies torque and speed. But as you constantly put it in "100%" and "-100%". So without the cargo, place the reverse on "50%" and "-50%".

[@williamtait2764]

That's not been programmed yet so just 100 100 is fine for now

[@Matty12787]

RailoadsOnline Extened is the 3rd party map but also does remote switching as well which at first sounds bad but the mod is never imbedded in the game and only injects itself when you have loaded your map and detaches when you close out. Edit: Meaning that if an update comes out, it won't ruin your save.

[@peterarlington223]

I'm wondering if it'd be good to add a bypass at the lumber camp so you can switch between logs and chordwood? It would save quite a bit of time going around the enter / exit loop since you'd only need to hit the exit loop for either side, especially since you've been talking about opening it up to multiple players.

[@seand.g423]

I'm still convinced that the cord wood platform at the smelter could fit a switch off the iron ore, but...

[@ulrichkalber9039]

The Operators on the narrow gage railroads on the eastern front(WWII) were ordered to NEVER leave a steam engine outside in winter. When the engine froze up it was a terribly hard job to get it into the workshop, and then going again. You had to remove the complete steering, because the cylinders would freeze up, then you had to tow the engine into the workshop for unfreezing and reassembly. The water towers were litterally a watertank in a wooden box, with the space between filled with straw for insulation. the engines were also insulated and heavyly modified for winter operation.

[@spinnykirbo6139]

i was the 69th view, you can always expect great things and good content from the C. R. A. P. railroad

[@andrewwillms8043]

Hey kAN, if you're ever in St. Jacobs you should check out the Waterloo Central Railway. They've got two steam locomotives, one of which does rides. The guys there are real nice and love to talk all things mechanical.

[@IndustrialParrot2816]

Hey I've been there since my grandma lives in the next town over

[@Timmzy27]

Railroad cult, Assemble!

[@MrCSisley]

23:30 - "Percy Runs Away" Take 3.... Action 😅🤣

[@YoYoK3nny]

If you're gonna use that Fibonacci numbering scheme for the engines, you should make a spreadsheet to calculate it for you. Will also be a great way of keeping track of the numbers that are used.

[@patrickhector]

Somehow I doubt they'll get so many trains thay that'll become a problem to keep track of, and the Fibonacci sequence is super easy to calculate mentally

[@YoYoK3nny]

@@patrickhector True, but having it all in a shared spreadsheet will be easier for them. That way they don't have to think about it while in KZbin/recording brain. Keep in mind that they already have 2 loco's numbered 1. There are more reasons to do so, but that's outside the scope of why I commented in the first place.

[@sixfthree]

I've been using the telegraph stations as placemarkers when trying to link up tracks from different directions

[@Travelinmatt1976]

Good idea, I always have trouble finding the 2 ends and trying to get them to meet somewhere

[@douglastaylor43]

My favorite relaxing series.

[@N0V-A42]

Your upload is 12 minutes after Hyce's. Before the previous episode it was hours between uploads IIRC. Is this planned?

[@Musician101P]

From what I've heard, another reason diesel electric locos use water is to limit environmental impact during a derailment

[@kollinspencer847]

yes also please get climaxes for helper engines

[@t.bfisher5855]

1:01:46 you guys were saying the Shay had the garage home built vibe to it, well that because the first Shay actually was, it was built because of an American logging company that was I believe in Oregan ( I could be wrong) had a really bad snow in and their horses couldnt pull the logs over the mountain in time before the waters froze so strapping a boiler unit off an old Winding engine, effectively creating the first ever Shay locomotive

[@prototypedrakon9899]

Ok, the back feed tidbit was fascinating!

[@allenhoehne4801]

Automotive coolant/antifreeze is actually dual purpose! Many newer engines have thermostats that open at 190F or 88C, because of that coolant (when under pressure) both raises the "boil-over temperature" and lowers the freezing temperature

[@thestainmorephoenix8632]

Fair warning on Glenbrook (I bought her in game) she's a speed demon, can pull just about anything you throw at her and she does have brakes. There's a hand valve in the cab you have to open to get the brakes to actually work and I will warn you, depending on speed and hill size, they will kick on like no tomorrow and can easily throw all cars off the rails. I'd recommend having a guy in the waycar (which is acting like your caboose) tie the brakes on the rear and then tie brakes on the Glenbrook. You don't wanna be playing 52 car pick up with her and also, be wary of the long wheelbase as she's not fond of tight curves and her tender tends to shimmy about like a pop star.

[@coltonodom9419]

It's funny how they whent from talking about trains to cars 🤣🤣🤣

[@andrewdoran4526]

Love the videos keep it up

[@wolf310ii]

About collegial conductor, watch the movie "The Emperor of the North Pole", Ernerst Borgine (Santini from Airwolf) plays a conductor on a freight train in the 1930s, "collegial" trying to keep hobos off his train, with nice things like chains, hammer or a coupler pin on a rope, while Lee Marvin plays a hobo trying to ride all the way to Portland on exactly this train.

[@toweronecommunications5577]

Hey that's a great movie I like that movie

[@HootJody76]

How many vids to see snow in yours vids?

[@frankyanish4833]

When setting water and sanding towers, use the floating 2x4 to align the building to the rail. Make sure it’s covered by the ballast and you should be aligned to track center. Just be aware that the sanding tower’s board is not ghosted like the water tower is; it will need trash removed before placing.

[@anonbefallen4807]

25:26 nice Unstoppable reference lol

[@Failer__]

51:00 i know I'm a little late to the party, but I drive a BMW e82 with 2 liter turbocharged diesel with 6 speed manual (I live in Europe) and that thing is amazing when going downhill, since it has regenerative braking, even though it's a diesel (it has start-stop system, a nonsense Europeans came up with in circa 2009, so for the battery not to die in 5 minutes it gets energy from braking, like an electric would do) I just put it in 2nd gear and go no clutch no brakes. There is literally no hill that would beat it. It works in day to day driving too, just downshift and you don't have to touch the brake unless youre going from like 10km/h to dead stop. I have this car for 6 years and I have literally never changed brakes pad, as they are still in fairly good condition.

[@Tom89194]

The only point for antifreeze coolant is boil over, freezing, and corrosion protection. The higher viscosity of radiator coolant actually hurts its performance as a heat transfer fluid. High performance racing applications often use surface wetting agents and/or viscosity reducing agents to improve the efficiency of their cooling systems to keep the size and weight down of things like radiators etc. I would be interested to know how those diesels handle the issues with the lower boiling point of water.... Higher cooling system pressure to increase boiling point? or just have a high enough flow rate not to have boiling issues in engine passages. You also have to worry about antifreeze in the oil, the glycol contaminates the oil and causes severe bearing issues, but water would be mostly boiled off and leave via the crankcase vent

[@jamessimmons3371]

Love watching you mess around with trains, still hoping you revisit derail valley lol

[@ronald7375]

You know what would be really awesome for Railroads Online? Galloping Geese.

[@theclassiccarguy268]

1968 GTO that's awsome

[@valzzu]

the runaway train was funny

[@carternantell6697]

Betsy is like a skid steer.

[@RTRKNG]

water is more efficient and has a higher heat capacity than typical coolant, and is often used in motorsports in climates where freezing isn't a concern

[@TheElectricCaveman]

Exciting happenstance, I get to watch the train video while on a train

[@DeadsTBD]

Tbh I nevver expected to enjoy watching this game but here am I waiting for the next episode to come out xD

[@superbluhedgehog1]

I enjoyed watching this so much this far that I actually purchased the game so I can play. Not going to have a cool name like the E.S.&D. Or the C.R.A.P. RR, though

[@jeffreyblack666]

I would classify coolants and refrigerants differently. I see coolants as things which are meant to remain liquid and cool from above ambient temperature. It is pumped around a circuit, which contains a heat exchanger typically with air flowing through it (i.e. a radiator) where it cools towards ambient temperature, and then is pumped into the thing to be cooled, with a pump somewhere in the circuit. For that, water is very good. It has a very high heat capacity, and a large range where it is liquid (especially if it is contained such that it pressurises instead of boiling. The additives to coolant are mainly to keep it liquid at a larger range, and prevent corrosion and microbial growth. Conversely, refrigerants are normally to cool things to below ambient temperature, using a heat pump and typically rely upon it boiling and condensing. It is pumped into the heat exchanger in the region to be cooled at "low" pressure, where it boils. It is then pumped through a compressor, significantly increasing the temperature (and the boiling point), and it is allowed to cool in the hot side heat exchanger, where it condenses back into a liquid. This liquid is then pumped (through an expansion setup) to allow it to reduce in pressure and the cycle completes. For this, you want something with a boiling point in a narrow range. Specifically you want it to have a boiling point at the working pressure of the chamber to be cooled that is below the temperature you want to reach. So water is not good for that at all, especially as you don't want to use too low a temperature. The newer refrigerants aren't made to improve the refrigeration ability. Instead, the early ones were quite flammable (like pentane) or toxic, which caused an obvious safety concern. So improvements were made to make them non-flammable and non-toxic. But these were then chlorine containing compounds (and other similar compounds) which damaged the ozone layer and had significant global warming potential. The ozone layer issue has been mostly fixed as we no longer use CFCs, but they still have a significant global warming potential. So now, the goal is to try and make cheap refrigerants which don't contribute to global warming.

[@LoPhatKao]

"it gets cold up there i hear" near enough to -40 the last few days where i am very brrr

[@whatusernameis5295]

one thing that can cause loss of coolant is a bad radiator cap (if the spring is weaker then it should be). so that's fun when your engine is overheating and you stop and see that the coolant is low add some and see a stream of steam coming out of the cap lol

[@tree43781]

hewow

[@bread0237]

👍Bread

[@danthiel8623]

the bromance is real 😂😁

[@spudz7405]

Omg when u guys were talking about how hyce shouldn't have a model railroad I was like Addams family and not long after Hyce said it xD

[@gregnarvas6807]

I know you and others put so much work into this map, but I would absolutely love to play your map! Maybe you can upload the save!

[@buckduane1991]

I was trying to tow a small trailer on I-25 from Douglas to Casper, Wyoming years ago with my ‘98 Chevy C-1500 (yeah, feel free to laugh… I was 19 at the time) with a 4.3L V6 Vortec engine and was unaware my mechanic in Vegas had swapped out my radiator at some point with an aftermarket one that had a pair of 20 cent rubber caps on it into a 60 mph winter headwind… needless to say, I had the accelerator to the floor for most of the way to try and get over 30 mph. One of those 20 cent rubber caps had rotted and popped off as I was going up a hill 10 miles east of Casper as I was heading west, and needless to say in the next 20 seconds all of the radiator fluid sprayed out, my engine overheated, and the engine head cracked in half… totaled the engine in 20 seconds. I still have the pickup, 35k miles later, with a new engine since a new engine (at the time) somehow didn’t total it (it would total it 4x over now in 2023). Moral of the story: even when it is 20 F (-5…ish C?) before putting in 60 mph (100 kmh) worth of wind chill from an oncoming blizzard, having radiator fluid is VERY important! …that, and a 4.3L V6 Vortec from the late 90s is the biggest troll GM ever pulled off putting into its half and 3/4 ton pickups in history. Still love that old faithful 2-door long-bed Chevy of mine, and only have 145k total miles on her now, 3rd generation family owner since it was bought new.

[@Varjokissa]

Ooo. Shay is now half price (2500) :D Better price for new shunting/switching machine.

[@matthewcox7985]

Regarding water as engine coolant: There are times and places where straight water is used in car radiators. Safety and Tech rules for The 24 Hours of Lemons requires all cars to race with water in the radiators, in case of leaks. With the crappy cars they're racing, leaks are expected! 🤣

[@infinitefray8067]

I got to do Washington state's polar express back in like 2012 I belive because that happened right around my 9th - 10th birthday.

[@evanwitt1871]

engine braking works by creating a vaccuum on the intake stroke, not compression.

[@weston980]

Kan can I do a Disney theme in zeepkist or an upside down theme

[@ulrichkalber9039]

Telegram generally is the message, the word means "writen over a distance" Telegraph generally is the device, the word means "distance writer"

[@Kilgorio]

Wow

[@ThatMansPhantom]

hey kAN i recently got trailmakers any tips or stuff? And ps love the vid

[@powerstancesquirrel2411]

Get a square body Chevy with a bigblock v8 straight piped. That. Will rattle the windows. Plus. If you get it with 4 wheel it’ll be straight axel

[@laddyboy107]

Next time you have to use the Goat on the hill, you should throw the Montezuma in reverse and see if he can still pull you

[@insylem]

I figured out that speed loading trick on my own

[@widders1]

Uhhh, might want to check the ingredients on that antifreeze, pretty sure its going to be mostly water :p

[@everydayfixer8446]

50% Ethylene glycol 50% water. Definitely will get pricey. And rather unhealthy if there were a spill.

[@danejones7051]

how many movie quotes from hyce lol... i counted 5 haha

[@codylemme4154]

I may be crazy but for no reason as i watch this amazing train bros i randomly started to think of Adam Sandlers Eight Crazy Nights. Absolutely no reason why

[@lazypizzaship8911]

You should definitely buy the shay and with this update the price is completely reduced.

[@Dimondminer11]

Oh good cause I bought the shay and was extremely disappointed by the lack of tractive effort for the price

[@superbluhedgehog1]

I think the Shay got downgraded to tier 1 or 2 as well

[@bpw102896]

I don't think until like this new truck I bought I ever used actual radiator fluid I just used the hose at the house to fill the car up

[@sonnyzehm105]

I drive a stick shift as well... I can't drive an auto as I'm always looking for the clutch... The last automatic I had it took me three months to get used to it... I'm so used to driving a stick that I was always going for the clutch... My car now is a stick

[@DJgamer-sq5fq]

I hope hyce never has to kick his gto downhill it’s the most terrifying thing I got a 302 cobra jet and to run it sometimes it would choke itself out and when that happened you just dump the clutch and it’s non assisted it’s just a fun time

[@hush6149]

Could you imagine if you could warp to cabooses, that way you could warp to switches and change them, then back to the caboose, or if you fall off the train you can warp to the caboose. A lot more people would be using them if that was the case

[@Tom89194]

Soooo.... NOW you can set up tele offices, send a locomotive on the transfer lines with cars, warp to the next yard to perform loading/unloading, receive the incoming train, turn it around and send it back warp to the new destination to prepare for the incoming train..... NOTHING could go wrong.

[@peterhamilton7723]

except for the occasional missing cars and/or whole train 🚂🚃

[@easternkentuckyrcfun1061]

You should do a downhill run from the coal mine to the helper station with a car only using brakes and race Hyce

[@loganbarts8919]

My hobby that my fiancé has approved is race cars😂 I’ve got a big turbo bmw, and some old Porsche projects,

[@turak6009]

Try going down Wolf creek pass and have t fifthwheel and pickup brakes catch fire

[@ILEFTCAPS0N]

kAN's hobby is remote control stuff? Oh boy, nobody tell him how well RC and 3D printing go together.

[@seand.g423]

And let's hope he doesn't read his comments sections this far back...

[@IndustrialParrot2816]

I actually have a garden railroad which I am making handlaid aluminum track for

[@StixFerryMan]

You should have to lay telegraph lines between huts like you do rails

[@mihalydozsa2254]

Fun fact, youtube started as a dating site :-D But anyways I would like to see a run when you ghost ride 2-3 trains and teleporting around to manage them :-D

[@thatconservativetrainguy3864]

Acceptable amount stares at o scale trains 😅

[@TheDelta07sev]

"There's a reason your house doesn't use water" laughs in English water radiators with boilers that stop working because the condensate pipes freeze in the winter.

[@kylephelan8570]

Look inside the smoke stack in new cooke

[@Darthos3]

Did you ever make a rail-guided vehicle in Scrap Mechanic to do packing station runs?

[@Luredreier]

13:35 Maybe it's a water quality issue? Because I've *never* heard about anyone using destilled water in a car here in Norway. We use tap water in summer and anti-freeze in winter.

[@peterhamilton7723]

many people have iron, calcium, and/or lime deposits in their water

[@andrewcook6365]

You should put another telegraph station at the y So anywhere there are switches should have one there

[@Ogis888]

Hello :)

[@richardjayroe8922]

As an ex Conductor I will gladly answer any questions you have about them

[@boginaogiela2882]

what happened with besty in future ?

[@easternwoyer3876]

Mantazuma is going to join its eurikan brethren soon I feel