Yawgmoth vs Maelstrom Wanderer vs Prossh vs Kestia EDH / CMDR game from Magic: The Gathering

[@MTGMuddstah]

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[@ujai5271]

"I have tuned my deck very well, with a lot of the more expensive mana rocks, that is why I don't play it a lot." Story of every Magic player

[@Fromaginator]

Frogmoth

[@DeanJayJackmanJr]

Frawgmoth

[@jeffnorris211]

That made me so happy lol

[@maisonfriedrichs4194]

I don't think Andrew should have let his Kolbolds die to -1/-1 counters, but sacced them to the Alter. If you sacrifice Kobold to Ashnod's Alter in response to Yawgmoth -1/-1 ability, the ability fizzles and Peter would not draw a card. A sac outlet against a Yawgmoth deck really slows down the draw engine unless you stop targeting creatures all together and sac just for the draw trigger. Once a creature is Targeted it can fizzle if the creature is no longer on the battlefield and the draw will not happen. My friend pointed this out when I was building my Yawgmoth deck.

[@MLucaj]

He didnt even have to do that. When peter sacs to yawg and targets a kobold, yawgs ability goes on the stack, THEN dictate triggers and goes on top of it. Andrew can sac the kobold to the dictate trigger that yawgs ability targeted and now it fizzles resulting in only 1 kobold lost from the dictate and no card draw for peter.

[@MLucaj]

Pro tip, if someone targets a creature with yawgs -1 counters and has a grave pact effect, sac that creature to the grave pact effect before the -1 counter goes on. They do not get to put the -1 counter and therefore they also do not get to draw the card since the ability now fizzles. They can however choose to NOT place -1 counters they want the card draw.

[@pauloalvarado3653]

You may activate Yawgmoth’s first activated ability without choosing a target creature. You’ll just draw a card. However, if you choose a target and it becomes illegal before the ability tries to resolve, the ability won’t resolve and you won’t draw a car.

[@MLucaj]

@@pauloalvarado3653 yup exactly, but if they do target a creature and have a grave pact effect you can sac it to the grave pact to fizzle out yawgs ability

[@MegaReklaw]

@MUDDSTAH Peter missed out on a bunch of tokens from nest of scarabs. When’re he puts a minus counter on creature he gets a token: even works for his scarabs so he could have gone small infinity with the nest

[@DischordMabinogi]

The problem is that it costs 1 life per Yawgmoth activation, which is pretty dangerous given that Andrew was playing Prossh that definitely has aristocrat cards in there that can randomly kill Peter at any moment.

[@danriemer9724]

Dischord nah, with 30 life and 4 mana, you’re likely to find a Zulaport cutthroat or a couple undying creatures to just end the game. Once nest hits the field he shouldn’t have settled for the long game by casting dictate, he should have used his life as a resource and go for the win that turn.

[@TheAntoniusFunk]

@@danriemer9724 100% That was a serious missed opportunities.

[@izikmoore9404]

Nest of Scarabs + Yawgmoth doesn't go infinite? If he has 1 scarab, he can't sac it to put a counter on the scarab itself. He would need 2 nests to do something like that.

[@danriemer9724]

Izik Moore I’m not saying nest + Yawgmoth is infinite. I’m saying sac a zombie from grave Titan to put a counter on any creature on the board to create an insect and draw a card. Then sac then insect to repeat the process. This is not infinite, but you’ll be able to draw 20+ cards. Odds are pretty good that you will find something to allow you to go infinite in those cards. I didn’t count up the toughness on board, but he could have used up to 28 life to draw 28 cards and leave him self at 2. He needs to stay at two so he has a life to pay to Yawgmoth to start the combo that will actually end the game.

[@horribleville]

You made the right call attacking yawgmoth, easily the biggest threat. Congrats on the win!

[@mckenziestone3302]

It's so satisfying watching another yawgmoth deck pop off. Definitely one of my favorite commanders

[@AffinityForCommander]

There are some very powerful commanders in this game! I can't wait to see the drama that unfolds! 😁

[@AstridCeleste96]

Bantchantress never stood a chance against so much Edict effects and no immediate answer

[@Bazman034]

Games where maelstrom wanderer's never get cast make me so sad :(

[@marshall4439]

Strangely enough, they make me happy :)

[@zanasaurus_rexx1283]

great video, that makes me want to build aYawgmoth deck. surprised theres no link to the deck list listed

[@marshall4439]

Definitely interested to see this Yawgmoth build list when it becomes available

[@cristianprado8559]

wait why didn't Scott cast llanowar elves turn 1? did I miss anything? i don't get it

[@erickramirez6613]

Missplay, no reason to not casting it

[@Biggzlar]

That actually gave me a shiver. Makes both cradle and priest worse! Maybe he didn't want to draw all that hate. :D

[@1Korlash]

From the footage, it felt like Tony's deck was at a lower power level than everyone else's. The dude was running Evolving Wilds while everyone else was playing stuff like Gaia's Cradle and Mana Vault.

[@EvraeAltana]

I know tutors are edh staples but feel like they make it too easy to win sometimes.

[@tylerharris8555]

I just bought the last few cards for my Prossh deck! Glad you got the win!

[@danriemer9724]

I’m not sure what is in the Yawgmoth deck, but I would have been a lot more aggressive in digging for cards when that Nest of Scarabs hit the field. Every counter placed will generate an insect to be sacrificed, to draw a card, to place a counter, to repeat the process. With 30 life and mana open, I bet the game could have been pretty close to over right there. Dictate is kind of a nonbo with the nest since it eliminates targets for -1/-1 counters to be placed on. Also, I love seeing these higher powered decks face off!

[@aarong2606]

Him blocking with the noble instead of repeating his loop was really troll

[@charlesmaillho367]

Yeah, it's disappointing seeing players who don't know how to pilot a deck or really use the synergy that their cards have built for them. This game should have been Peter's by a mile. He completed neutered the table but couldn't finish.

[@aarong2606]

@@charlesmaillho367 well good thing it is just a game! Fun to point out synergies and help people realize better plays but no need to down them

[@ivernedit]

I love to hear my "Hey gang" in the morning

[@superwill1238]

On the fourth day of Christmas, Ol' Muddstah gave to me Four person politics Three hundred treasures Two times the triggers And some more games of EDH!

[@superwill1238]

(sorry this one's late, I've been bogged by College finals ;v;)

[@gersonbenavides4473]

What's the link for the yawgmoth?

[@ethanstates884]

Love the Seb McKinnon playmats

[@Astronaughty03]

Slick plays by you this game muddstah, especially the chord > abomination. Sssspicey

[@urazoe8240]

2 years later the "dictate" trigger on yawgmoths death is acually the correct play

[@DarkEinherjar]

Few things are more satisfying in a Prossh deck than to cast it with Purphoros on the field.

[@aarong2606]

Peter just kinda stopped his nest of scarabs dictate and noble loop for some reason could a made you have 0 creatures by the end and been up more life...he had a soft lock that he just didn't use :/

[@Karonar]

Why didnt you sac the goblin that was targeted by Yawgmoth? The dictate trigger resolves first, so you got a nice way to fizzle the Draw.

[@orsettomorbido]

No elves T1? I mean, even if that is considered threatening no one can do anything about that (except killing it, but not crippling Scott to the point that he's out of the game immediately) , so I don't understand. Maybe Scott just forgot to play it XD

[@crovax1375]

Purphoros really helped you to forge ahead!

[@nanoacido5174]

Tony is me the first time I went to my LGS with my budget Tatyova clone tribal deck, only to face the big boizs eldrazi titans

[@abouttime837]

I love the name tag design

[@sasoftball5791]

Is there a deck list for yawgmoth?

[@hpower2284]

please make a deck with Kenrith, the returned king, i would really like to see what way you would decide going in

[@esperderek5383]

Purphoros is in the running for my least favorite card in EDH. It does too much damage too easily and most decks simply don't have a good way of dealing with it once it's on the field, especially since if the Purph player is smart it will never, ever turn into a creature. Indestructible Enchantment is just flat out impossible for a lot of decks to deal with. I wouldn't shed any tears if it got banned. (Not saying it should.)

[@MayhemMessiah]

Funny I feel the same way for Yawgmoth and monoblack in general. They very samey and just don't let you play creatures unless you draw outs. I always focus monoblack decks sight unseen.

[@hiddenleaf414]

As someone who uses a lot of different gods I agree. I have a work EDH group and the power level is around 5/6 since most of them are still new and I never play any of my decks that run gods since they pretty much stick around the whole game.

[@darksteelmenace595]

Ehh, just play white ;)

[@Krajcik1964]

I'd say laboratory maniac and dramatic scepter are bigger culprits.

[@traviswilliams5867]

Love that Theros content duration.

[@SyckestBlah]

Is there any reason why Scott never sniped off Yawgmoth? Yawgmoth did SO much work this game, drawing and killing and disrupting, but only once did anyone try to stop him, by turning him into a Frogmoth, which sadly is not a frog with moth wings...Also, is there a Food Chain in the Prossh deck, to go infinite instantly with Prossh?

[@Gerishwin85]

When Scott cast reclamation sage and peter did all the things the sage should have been still on the board at the end of it because it hadn’t entered yet to the dictate did not effect it

[@MTGMuddstah]

It had entered, that's how Peter knew what Scott was targetting.

[@Devilish420]

Damn I should've got purphoros for my niv parun deck I'm building cause I have tarland sky summoner, murmuring mystic, and saheeli sublime artificer in there and I put in 25 instants and sorceries combined so I'm gonna be getting a lot of triggers for those guys. Ol well I got psychosis crawler and niv mizzet firemind to assist parun in dealing dmg off card draw XD

[@thr061000video]

Demonic and Vampiric Tutor is played by a Prossh deck, but Food Chain never comes out?

[@jahnyguitah7999]

They play mostly casual. It looks like a down-tuned Prossh deck. Beating on every other deck with Food Chain Prossh doesn't make for a good game imo, unless every other deck is playing similar shenanigans.

[@carlosespada6350]

Missing the Yawgmoth deck list 😥

[@thiagoandrade4751]

wheres the yawgmoth list?

[@Bammab127]

where's the giveaway link?

[@MTGMuddstah]

Good question! It's here: www.flipsidegaming.com/pages/mtgmuddstah-theros-beyond-death-giveaway-january-2020-official-rules?fbclid=IwAR0AGOoZD2IADPYomg1xoHNCLvyx7QgItjWTUju3WT4VE6Y_cTK9NEz9qhU I'll also pin it to the top comment.

[@DrFrogman]

Hey muddstah, Im watching all your Videos and i was wandering of you could do atraxa superfirends, im about to build it as a present for my Best friends birthday and would love to See it Not on a Budget in Action :) Would really appreciate it man!! Have a good day

[@MTGMuddstah]

Look for games with Atraxa on the channel. Trevor has a great Superfriends build!

[@paodequeijo7231]

I used to play a Marath deck that was quite like your Prossh. I loved when people killed Marath as well and Purphoros and Clamp are just ridiculous in decks like these. I ended up selling the deck to get a real cEDH deck though because Marath was too good for casual tables and just too weak for competitive.

[@DivinePenguin00]

Correct me if I'm wrong, but when Yawgmoth died and went to the command zone, that was a redirection. Yawgmoth actually did die and even though he didn't hit the graveyard, there should have still been a death trigger for Dictate of Erebos, correct?

[@Devin-oh7gr]

No its a replacement effect. If the commander would change zones you may instead put them into the command zone.

[@DarkEinherjar]

"Die" in Magic = go to the graveyard from the battlefield. If the creature doesn't hit the graveyard at all, no death triggers. Returning a commander to the command zone is a replacement effect unless a card tells you to do so.

[@DivinePenguin00]

Ok cool, thanks guys!

[@AstridCeleste96]

This replacement effect is also why commanders with death triggers aren't ideal, like Elenda, the Dusk Rose and the Spirit Dragons of Kamigawa. They have to be built in a way that can recur them or let copies die (ie. Elenda runs reanimation, and Keiga the Tide Star runs copy effects and lets the copies get sacced to the Legendary Rule and die).

[@Devilish420]

@@AstridCeleste96 That's why it's better to have a commander that plays off of other creatures deaths

[@danceallnite45]

Anyone every notice that Andrew is voice twins with Adam Drive?

[@sephyrias883]

1:35 lol, Prossh already won the game. 12:30 yup, no surprises today.

[@connorl0204]

With yawgmoth, falkenrath noble, and nest of scarabs, wouldnt peter have been able to go infinite?

[@smurillo21]

No because he would have run out of creatures to put the -1 counters on

[@connorl0204]

@@smurillo21 nest of scarabs gives creatures though?

[@Randedh]

please yawgmoth decklist

[@darksteelmenace595]

Yep, Purph is a pretty good card. I play one in my token deck just on the chance that I resolve a storm herd lol (its still pretty good without that obviously)

[@Lollix87]

I did this thing with my K&T, placing 44 tokens and 88 damage. Was brutal

[@isin4b]

Fiiiinally Prossh is back! I am one of those alot of people!

[@benjahs5]

I can't believe there is not a yawgmoth deck list :/

[@dreddbolt]

Man, Yawgmoth is something else.

[@eonrequiem]

Great game as usual,

[@180molotov]

Tokens don't hit he yarn either I thought. So peter wouldn't have gotten any triggers unless he let yawgmoth go to the grave.

[@MTGMuddstah]

Tokens do trigger things that care about going to the yard. They still "die" and then cease to exist once touching the yard.

[@180molotov]

@@MTGMuddstah good to know. Do you know the rule # exactly? My play group has been playing it as they exile and dont hit the yard. XD thanks again btw always love the videos!

[@NMS127]

@@180molotov 111.7. A token that's in a zone other than the battlefield ceases to exist. This is a state-based action; see rule 704. (Note that if a token changes zones, applicable triggered abilities will trigger before the token ceases to exist.)

[@180molotov]

@@NMS127 thank you!

[@erickramirez6613]

Llanowar elves turn 1 is mandatory in a wanderer deck!

[@MrPhilGee]

this match was awesome !!

[@socrates7722]

Missed the stream by 2 days :(

[@bigdon9999]

Faith's fetters on sarkhan and not yawgmoth? Sure

[@thesadseal2electricboogalo597]

Frawgmoth, Pond Physician

[@CeltiesSin]

Yano, I like Yawgmoth, but every mono black deck plays out basically identical. Seeing “(insert mono B cmdr) plays dictate of Erebos and nobody gets to play the game” gets really old after a while 😒

[@addambarcelos]

Yawgmoth still looks pretty brutal. But prossh is the true boss xD

[@jinxcurse6113]

I love edh :)

[@oscarmadera8267]

I don’t like Scott’s MW deck. It looks expensive but it’s mechanically meh. I’ve seen all his games. Even when he wins, his win conditions felt flimsy.

[@AidanWR]

Wow, cheaping out with a Temur Sabertooth that isn't signed

[@LivePhive5]

Purphoros win...ah delicious.

[@giraffesofluffy8070]

Dictate is such an annoying enchantment xD

[@xivxiyan]

Pog

[@germanyjones2700]

Frogmoth? No no, PAWGmoth.

[@jaredfields1517]

Frogmoth.

[@mastershake42019]

Yogmoth is so strong

[@rabbituckmann8146]

Frawgmoth. lol.

[@Barjack521]

More like Frog-moth lol

[@StefVanDerVelden]

Man, never realised prosh with purphoros was so boring

[@patrickmcgugan7200]

First

[@resinrev8465]

Second

[@orsettomorbido]

Purforos is so cool in the right deck °_°

[@Sturm64]

The display of excess is sickening. Even has the balls to say the other guys gaea's cradle didnt win him the game.