Yaxchilan's Shield Jaguar and Lady Xook Lintel 24 and 25

[@ArtHistorywithAlder]

Please comment below with what you find fascinating about Shield Jaguar and Lady Xoom!

[@BHeisler59]

Thanks for the content. At 3:00 you reference the nose. The woman's is different than his. I've noticed the differences in many pieces from the sites. His nasal bridge merges right above the eyes at the brow ridge. Her nasal bridge continues up above the brow line in what today would appear abnormal. I find it odd because there's a lot of literature, some maybe scientific papers where the pineal gland at one time time was more pronounced. I wonder if the actual nasal passages where oxygen is entering is up that high into the forehead area in line with the pineal? Today most of my friends from Guatemala living here in southeast Texas have a more rounded cranium and flattened wider nose but on occasion I will see someone with that high ridge slender nose and slim face. Must have been some serious genetic variation from somewhere. I've listened to some scholars refer to it as a royal nose or Roman nose but I've never seen a relic showing a Roman with a nasal bridge that far up above the brow. Have you?

[@pedrozatravel]

Nice video. I was just in Yaxchilan. It is a trek to get out there, but not as hard you would think. One small correction in your video is you started out with a picture of structure 33, not 23. Structure 33 was the palace of Jaguar Bird IV, the son Jaguar Shield II who is shown in these lintels. Structure 23 is below structure 33 by about 10 meters. Structure 23 was Lady Xoc's home, there are glyphs that say "you are now entering Lady Xoc's home, enter with respect." In 1980 the tomb of Lady Xoc was found in the floor of structure 23. I believe the scene of the lintel that looks like a snake is Lady Xoc's blood coming up as smoke and as the smoke rises, she is going to meet her husband Jaguar Shield II in the after life. That last part is just my personal thought from what I saw. All the same though Yaxchilan is an amazing place, hope you go one day to see it for yourself. Just don't get caught in the laberynth 😁.

[@montysano]

Palenque and Yaxchilan are both bucket list for me. We'll probably visit Palenque this winter. Sadly, it's currently considered too dangerous to visit Yaxchilan, due to gang and/or cartel activity. Hopefully this will change.

[@pedrozatravel]

@@montysano you will love both, talk to your hotel the last I heard Yaxchilan was back open again, the site is awesome, it is one of the most open sites. Most sites you go to are roped off.

[@orionjaguar]

the son's name is Bird Jaguar, not Jaguar Bird. But you're right about the structures being confused in the video, Lady Xok's house is 23 and the lintel 25 you reference is Lady Xok conjuring the Vision Serpent and likely an ancestor emanating from its mouth from the Otherworld. I don't know any Mayanist who thinks it's supposed to be Shield Jaguar or Lady Xok herself.

[@luciasoosova2182]

Just two nitpicking comments: 1. Shield Jaguar doesn´t wear a shrunken head in his forhead - it´s just a jade piece with a face on it. Other things, like jugs or necklaces have faces on them as well. They believed that all things were actually alive, so when a person died, they put their things like jewellry or favourite pottery into the grave with holes drilled in them - from their point of view, the plate or the jewerlly had to die as well. 2. Men didn´t bloodlet with that barbed rope. They used a stinray bone that needed to only nick the skin of their members to bleed. They were heavily adorned. I hope I wasn´t too high and mighty, just wanted to add my two cents that stuck with me from my Maya classes because Im a huge nerd.

[@caidenlynnmcpherson362]

This is an amazing video! It's really helping me with my Art History homework, I chose this piece as one of my pieces to do an Art Analysis on! I'm super excited to learn about it's significance and the cultural subtext around it! It's so facinating that both of them were seen as so powerful, I love the beautiful depictions! Also, thank you so much for adding subtitles. It really helps make the video accessible for people like myself that struggle with Auditory Processing!!!

[@ArtHistorywithAlder]

Awesome, so glad this video was helpful 😊 Thanks for sharing your thoughts on these pieces!

[@montysano]

Wonderful video! I've visited a fair amount of Mayan (and other Meso American) sites. But the art from the Palenque/Yaxchilan area is IMHO without equal. I have a lintel 15 Vision Serpent hanging on my wall.

[@awen777]

She did not drag the line with thorns across her tongue. She pierced the tongue with an obsidian blade and drew the thorns threw it. The pain and possibly drugs guided her to the otherworld communications .

[@maurihdz3396]

Excellent, grettings.

[@Nockturnmortem]

Mayan art is exquisite.

[@sox5474]

This was the time’s form of social media 🥸

[@yasminaf_]

interesting video! Why is this figure called 'shield jaguar'?

[@TheFifthWorld22]

❤️❤️❤️

[@kantunahau]

When you see a doble o like in xook or yotoot, that is long o and is pronounce like the "o" in spanish or the "u" en fun.

[@ArtHistorywithAlder]

Thanks! I work hard on getting the right pronunciations but sometimes find conflicting ways to say things...thanks for your patience 😊

[@CesarCordova]

@@ArtHistorywithAlder even for us, mexicans, those ancient names are hard to pronounce, as they are not spanish words. Keep the great work!

[@prestonalder4796]

@@CesarCordova Thank you, I appreciate the encouragement!

[@anaelcruzhernandez2282]

Esos dinteles se los robaron deberían de volverlos a chiapas

[@quantumcomata105]

It's the precise translation from Inca tune into Maia morphosyllabic logograms. It's not a bloodletting ritual

[@ЕвгенийЧебодаев-ю8м]

Человека который предал семью можно вычислить так ---

[@dcoolkins4833]

houSe of? RoyaL SeaL, coat of aRmS, maRRiage. iPRomiSe with what iSay, to Be heaRd BefoRe God, aSKing 4 faVoR.

[@davidrafael7398]

is it just me that she a baddy lol

[@malloriedavis1324]

I did not know how they made shrunken heads! Ew!

[@ArtHistorywithAlder]

So crazy, right?!