Yes-But-Mind vs. Don't-Know-Mind

[@aaronyork3995]

Hapchang. Such a clear don't know teacher🙏🌷🙏

[@karmadharma035]

Thank you🙏🏻

[@noself-onlykarma]

It seems the meaning "Don't Know Mind" has been stretched to intellectual understanding. It's a non-dualistic, non-linear state of "no-mind", only achieved through inquiring deeply into what we cannot know. Simply stating "Don't Know" is a thinking exercise, another concept over concept. It's not about pressing a thought when it appears. It's achieved through one, single thought of "What is this (I)?" or Why did he say 'Mu'? , etc., Inquiring deep into the doubt caused by the true master's statement. It's the result of the proper inquiry into Hwadu. It's not a describable, conceivable, knowable state. It's before another thought arises. If you have achieved "Don't Know Mind" then you directly see the Wisdom (of Emptiness). Inquire sincerely where you only have the hwadu in the mind, as the mind and you'll know why the masters have used the word "Don't Know" or MuShim, Thus-ness, etc. Remember, words are words, only pointing to the Truth, which is inconceivable and indescribable. May you all enjoy Peace, Joy and Liberation. _()_

[@BishopWestt]

I love it!

[@ewaswierczek]

Cats dont eat tofu and dont have magic powers.

[@bardkuzniadram6193]

I'm sorry but for me it is quite not adequate example and strange teaching. How you can compare spider or cat understanding of reality to humans? First maybe it is much more advanced than humans so you are wrong. Maybe they are very limited like it is suggested so why to blame people for using their magnificent power of understanding reality and suggesting that it is an only reason because they don't really achieve themselves = "already arrived". Purely magical cat trick is not a just argument in any discussion/teaching. I'm sorry if I misunderstood. All best to you teacher!

[@Jeanyoungish]

Do we really understand reality? What is the reality then? Maybe we should start from this question. Cats and spiders may see the things as they are without interpretations, believes, guessing, perceptions, imaginations, bias and ideas. When we can be free of those filters and amplifiers then perhaps we can understand the reality.

[@bardkuzniadram6193]

@@Jeanyoungish that's what I would call a misleading vision of "if and maybe" when language tricks sounds nice but it's hard to see any meaning behind it. Maybe spiders see reality without "filters" but still we don't know for sure so why keep on guessing? Without amplifiers and filters that's the goal I understand that just an example is IMHO misleading and poor in an intellectual sense. Sounds good but it cannot defend itself because we don't know quality of magic cat observation powers or even real animals. Example is bad that's my stand.