Karmapa Thinley Thaye Dorji has been telling that he was the karmapa since the age of his one n half year.... to his parents n the people his surroundings....
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@doll_choden994 ай бұрын
I Believe in Both karmapas!! Not only because they’re karmapa but because they’re both benefiting all beings.🙏
@tenzinrabzay92322 жыл бұрын
Money and greed is the main source of conflict as far as I had observed within our Buddhist society.😏
@kalugurung68763 жыл бұрын
Longlife his holiness 17 karmapa thaye Dorje 💐🌹🌸🌼🌺🌻🙏🙏🙏
@janetroseli14763 жыл бұрын
Two other Karmapas in past had children. Read the history.
@rtd70662 жыл бұрын
My only concern, and it is a huge concern is that this is the Karmapa that was found and is recognized by the Chinese government.
@swensandor5 ай бұрын
TRUE. It is like you say. Now we have a false Panchen Lama, a false Karmapa, soon we get a false Dalai Lama, too. This is how the chinese reds operate to bring the genocide to the end. From without by force, by devision and installation of obedient agents from within. Divide et imperat.
@anjaleenuchprasert44614 жыл бұрын
How can people follow this monk? Married man can't live without sex. My Buddha leave family to totally clean way virgin way. But this monk only regular same us should not wear monk suit but he can practice meditation that is OK. For Monk if you can married then take out monk suit to be family man or lead people that's fine but don't wear monk suit and in night sleep with wife. It's not fair
@doll_choden994 ай бұрын
I’m not trying act expat but that’s what I’ve learnt from one Buddhist text, Normally it’s not uncommon for monks to marry or break their celibacy. We believe Some lama’s are destined to marry to prolong their health or expand their lineage through teaching.
@MladyStarlite3 ай бұрын
What if there was more than one karmpala? 🙃🦋🌹🙏 You want new, but you won't jump in the deep end or meet in the middle.
@paljorlha14 жыл бұрын
Depends of their activities... Could be four or five more karmapa.. respect both.
@cactusfullmoon25972 жыл бұрын
He is the real Karmapa proclaimed by H.E Shamara rinpoche, second lama in karma kagye lineage..2 Karmapas in the past got married bringing many enlighted beings in life as their children..The 17th Karmapa Thaye dorje today has a son the reincarnation of the former Shamar rinpoche..He dosent need permission from communist china to teach in a free world he is a pure emenation of avalokitesvara...
@greenspringvalley3 жыл бұрын
He is the Karmapa and he is obviously very wise and enlightened and grounded, but the OTHER one who holds that title is also relatively enlightened and there were many Buddhas so in respecting this Karmapa one must respect all enlightened beings. It is not kind to respect one in a way that disrespects the other. It was from another Buddhist teacher that I heard about the Karmapa lineage, and Karmapa Thinley Thaye Dorji has the exceptional qualities that the teacher spoke of. His contributions are much appreciated.
@patriciastein73616 жыл бұрын
our beloved precious teacher 🕯
@jhonwick98754 жыл бұрын
Fake
@bimlagurung65905 жыл бұрын
Long live dear Karmapa chenno🙏🙏🙏🌺🌻🌺🌻🌺🌻
@swensandor5 ай бұрын
No, you are not. You are simply an imposter, probably on the paycheck list of the CPCh.
@leongsam51972 жыл бұрын
This man is why religious charlatans are still in business. Follow at one's peril
@ttashibodh3 жыл бұрын
It doesn't matter whether he is real karmapa or not as long as he preaches humanity ❤❤
@alipiofernandes1 Жыл бұрын
It's do matter.
@devilinsideofme64993 жыл бұрын
Our real karmapa is ugen thinley dorjee chok
@tashisgyal8789 Жыл бұрын
may be for you there is only one karmapa but for us there is two karmapa and both are well educated. And previous karmapa has already predicted there will be two karmapa in future and the prediction you can see on karmapas flag there is two color in karmapas flag. That is the sign of two KARMAPA
@devilinsideofme6499 Жыл бұрын
@@tashisgyal8789 hahaha kyakpa sa then why his holiness didn't call him till now to meet and bless him
@tashisgyal8789 Жыл бұрын
@@devilinsideofme6499which holiness ? there are countless holinesses in the world.
@tashisgyal8789 Жыл бұрын
@@devilinsideofme6499 For me Thaye Dorjay Karmapa is Holiness and who is Holiness for you?
@doll_choden994 ай бұрын
@@tashisgyal8789me too.. I believe equally in two karmapas.. both could be mind & speech incarnations..🙏
@kunzangthupdenbhutia55214 жыл бұрын
Pls guys don't fight in dharma , believe in both karmapa ...
@jamessherpa41363 жыл бұрын
We believe on him but once he get married..we lost trust on him..
@doll_choden994 ай бұрын
@@jamessherpa4136I heard one of the karmapa was married. Some trulkus are required to take consort for spiritual reason, well in the case of 17th karmapa he took consort to expand his lineage!!
@henrynguyen91633 жыл бұрын
I really don't imagine that a Karmapa didn't give up his sex desire so that he got married and had two sons after he was himself considered to be Karmapa 17..... I have never, in my life, witnessed any monk to have wife and son during his Buddha Practice.... Anyone tells me how he became the 17th Karmapa while we already had Karmapa 17th (borned in 26/June/1985) ?
@eahp132 жыл бұрын
This comment against Karmapa Thaye Dorje, shows a deep ignorance of Tibetan Buddhism and I will tell you why: since the 15th Karmapa Khakhyap Dorje was married and this did not prevent him from exercising his role. In fact from the tantric perspective the partner is always a great help. This Christian view that "sex is bad" is not compatible with deep tantric practices. I recommend you to look for the biography of great yogis like Tilopa, Marpa the translator, Drukpa Kunley and many others.
@Soly_person2 жыл бұрын
Actually I will educate you as a Buddhist. First you can't talk like that. And it will born through 3 things which are from body, speech, mind so, can you please show some respect. And about marriage, Buddhist have 4 types such as kagyu, yingma, gayluk, shakya and yingma do marriage. Do research before you type
@tenzinrabzay92322 жыл бұрын
With the help of magic wand.😁
@phuntsoglepcha3547 Жыл бұрын
@@eahp13 mahayana is the most simple and purest form.
@wesherchedupbhutia17 Жыл бұрын
@@Soly_person karmapa is the Kagyu leader and they’re like Brahmins , they don’t marry , just correcting you , who ever maybe be real but both are the spiritual leaders and I respect that lus
@enaukara5535 Жыл бұрын
Im happy to see both of you..
@tselothar37516 жыл бұрын
He has Bhutanese wife
@sandralix2664 Жыл бұрын
Very good vidéo
@karmakarma36076 жыл бұрын
Yes...He is the right Karmapa according to historically N technically. Dalai lama has nothing to do with karma kagyu linage, and he has never recognized any Karmapa so far... Shamarpa has full right to recognise karmapa...
@christophemoret34236 жыл бұрын
yes - now the 2 karmapa met in France and will work together to restore the harmony within the Kagyu Lineage- you know i met the 16eme karmapa in France 41 years ago iam 59 years old now and i was quite embarassed with this controversy for many years : i did not know what to think about because of the contradictory informations on the web But i received this book only last april 2018 - the Prophecies of Karmapa by Syvia wong Rabsel Publishing I read the french translation : it gave me a big relieve this book it is an expertise document and i realised oh how much courageous and honest Shamar Rinpoche was and he paid the price of His life for all that i think- More over the yangsi of Shamarpa will be the son of Karmapa taye by this way there will no other issue with recognition of Shamarpa like the 15em Karmap was the Shamar Rinpoche 'S Father i think by listening the karmapaOrgyen Trinley that He feels embarassed with all that and did not really understand what happened to Him when he was 7 years old -He is so honest and humble that he asked to meet with Karmapa Taye Dordje to go beyond all this mess that weakened the karma kagyu lineage. Urgyen Trinley Dordje did not appreciate the endeavour of Tai Situpa who did many things behalf the name of Urgyen Trinley who was too young to realise what was happening - so Karmapa T aye Dordje whom i consider as the genuine Karmapa will find the way with Urgyen Trinley Dordje to solve the issue and they will be both Dharmapa or Beings who expand the genuine Dharma -It's a Beautiful day- U2
@christophemoret34236 жыл бұрын
the post in on kibi friends group
@karmakarma36075 жыл бұрын
christophe moret thank you very much fr sharing your experience ...
@ugenziring6 жыл бұрын
Hope truth will come out soon. Guys follow the money any western practitioners don’t go after any rinpoche please investigate before you choose your teacher . We are in bad era but you still doubt your teacher just go to the source Buddha the perfect one
@phenthotsering39445 жыл бұрын
Can karmapa marry,???
@ancientfinn37385 жыл бұрын
I know.
@sandralix26642 жыл бұрын
Amazing, thank you very much
@mynamehaschanged4 жыл бұрын
Maybe none of them is. As a person said many many years ago when the controversy started "If you look deeply you will find this is nothing but a fight of power between 2 students of the previous Karmapa".
@FlussdesLebens1 Жыл бұрын
And None of them two were never able to enter in sikkim monastery Like the 16 th Karmapa foretold. Reincarnation exists. Seems to be the best for all Like IT IS now. Until outer forces and circumstances allow the real incarnation to Show Up. And there will BE No doubt about His authenticity because the outer circumstances allow him since this dark age will come to an end.
@chungle88324 жыл бұрын
Whoever said the man married and had kids is Karmapa those don’t understand Buddha philosophy.
@henrynguyen91633 жыл бұрын
You are quite right....
@eahp132 жыл бұрын
The one who seems to understand nothing of Buddhist philosophy is you. I invite you to investigate the biographies of Padmasambhava, Tilopa, Marpa the translator, Drukpa Kunley and many others... and of course the biography of the 15th Karmapa Khakhyap Dorjé. From the perspective of Tantric Buddhism, the company of women is always beneficial 👫☸
@maku8075 Жыл бұрын
Dalai Lama has already picked the real 17th Karmapa lama others are just pretenders.
@gurupitka51885 жыл бұрын
There should be many karmapas coz the world needs it.
@kalyanamitra20485 жыл бұрын
guru pitka I think there should/could be two too 😊
@chungle88324 жыл бұрын
This is not Real Karmapa. The real one is certified by the Dalai Lama and confirmed by the 16th Karmapa. One thing very important that is Buddhist monk never allowed be married. This man married and had kids. NO, he not Karmapa.
@eahp132 жыл бұрын
Your comment shows a deep ignorance of how things really work in Tibetan Buddhism: 1) The 15th karmapa was married as well as many other yogis are, because according the perspective of Tantric Buddhism: the company of womens, is always a good thing. The WISDOM of the Dakini! 2) It is not the task of the Dalai Lama to recognize Karmapas since he is only the religious leader of 1 of the 4 schools of Tibetan Buddhism: the Guelupa. On the contrary, the one who does have this task of recognizing Karmapa is Shamarpa, and he did so: he recognized H. H. Karmapa Thaye Dorje.
@Ken-7 Жыл бұрын
But Dalai Lama doesn't have that certified papar
@Ken-7 Жыл бұрын
Listen Urgen Thinley voice message in this video properly
@Ken-7 Жыл бұрын
Urgen Thinley was saying that he don't have any idea about Karmapa
@olympic-gradelurker Жыл бұрын
Well the other Karmapa raped some nuns and had a kid too, so between the two, I think the married one is better.
@devilinsideofme64993 жыл бұрын
If he's real karmapa why his holiness didn't introduce him to the world
@eahp132 жыл бұрын
Who is "his holiness" ? 😄
@rileydoe26295 жыл бұрын
There’s another one recognised by HHDL.
@karmakarma36075 жыл бұрын
If you go through karma kagyu linage,you would know.. Dalai lama never recognized any Karmapa so far ..He does not have right to recognize into kagyu sect...
@patrykkedzierski97195 жыл бұрын
@@karmakarma3607 yes Second "Karmapa" is just Chinese Comunist
@jamessherpa41363 жыл бұрын
This one is fake...
@lazitazen68823 жыл бұрын
@@karmakarma3607 Thank you for your explanation 🙏🏽
@devotedbuddism876 жыл бұрын
Karmapa chenno
@shantidewa6 жыл бұрын
Can’t believe he’s married now 😂😂
@christophemoret34236 жыл бұрын
the 15 em karmapa got married for his long life and got 2 Yangsi one of them was the 14 Shamarpa
@shantidewa6 жыл бұрын
christophe moret all this is just ridiculous all this is just to keep the power really sad
@karmakarma36076 жыл бұрын
There is always big reason behind the activities of higher lamas..No negative comments
@shantidewa6 жыл бұрын
Karma kagyu yes yes ofcause lol
@VickyDocumenta5 жыл бұрын
@@shantidewa 😆
@phuntsoglepcha3547 Жыл бұрын
So sorry sir but you are not my karmapa no offence ☺️
@andydeny96794 жыл бұрын
This one is fake Karmapa!!!
@rockafellagurung25416 жыл бұрын
And his mom is acting up as a genuine one lol
@osinalimbu11103 жыл бұрын
People u know wat is hollyness
@dorjidorji8662 жыл бұрын
Yes your the fake karmapa you already proof it.
@456inthemix5 жыл бұрын
You are not the only Karmapa!
@karmakarma36075 жыл бұрын
456inthemix yes you are right..he is not the only karmapa but he is the right karmapa..
@sombarlama19775 жыл бұрын
Why
@ericdane31434 жыл бұрын
I am also karmapa
@rinchinldirkhipa52155 жыл бұрын
A person with desires will never serve people....Atleast he shouldn't marry🐽
@karmakarma36075 жыл бұрын
Richinl dirkhipa... Getting merried a person like you and me is a big desires,yes you are right.. but for realize masters like karmapas, its a practice of vajra yana which you don't understand .... to understand that practices, you need to learn N practice hard and achive that level...
@xianglung23063 жыл бұрын
@@karmakarma3607 is there any previous karmapas ever married? I think you are hypocrite
@tenzinpalsang28096 жыл бұрын
subtitles 😐 Please do better. This is the original Karmapa. Yall messed up big time.
@littlebuddha34836 жыл бұрын
I love, believe and trust you more... Yes, u are only one....
@kbgirel69652 жыл бұрын
He is lying
@Phurba20115 жыл бұрын
Proof yourself first of all.
@karmakarma36075 жыл бұрын
Phuri Sherpa He has already proved a lot since his birth but the ignorance people like you can't see .......
@Phurba20115 жыл бұрын
Hey man I have visited all the Karmapas of present, and it's not about ignorance it's about reality.Whom shall I trust and why? That is the question.I have faith in the 16th Karmapa.
@karmakarma36075 жыл бұрын
Your line "proof yourself first of all" itself is a big disrespect to karmapas... you will never find the right karmapa or blessings of karmapa when you have this kinds of thoughts for karmapa.....thank you🙏
@sombarlama19775 жыл бұрын
No needed
@sombarlama19775 жыл бұрын
@@karmakarma3607 wow
@chimetashi39516 жыл бұрын
o might Lord...
@leeyee93252 жыл бұрын
Personally, I am tended to consider they are both in well educated, and well leaded by good teachers, the level of education they received to be a big Tulku are enough. Don't keep too narrow thinking.
@tibetmiracle98296 жыл бұрын
Fake totally fake
@ericdane31434 жыл бұрын
I am a real karmapa. ...
@SukmaHema6 жыл бұрын
He is married now so he can not perform the duty as a karmapa!
@McMike836 жыл бұрын
why not? do you know the 15th Karmapa Knayab Dorje?
@leewang70176 жыл бұрын
U better not comment on karmapa's life. First read all biography of karma kamtsang kagyu. U'll not get happy if you always refuting to others.
@McMike836 жыл бұрын
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@leewang70176 жыл бұрын
Mi GG ohh sorry, am not telling u,, i reply to harrina not u.... sorry dude..... extremly sorry...
@McMike836 жыл бұрын
a ok no problem, i was not sure actually, but the youtube notified me that the reply is to my comment. I deleted it already.
@ArtLamMedia6 жыл бұрын
This one is fake Karmapa
@samphel41185 жыл бұрын
what type of karmapa you are tell to tibetan people we think you are only mad shamarpa's karmapa
@karmakarma36075 жыл бұрын
First learn to speak in politely ...i can see full of ignorance in your language... and please don't tag this as Tibetan people..coz I'm also a Tibetan people..i believe in this Karmapa...
@godfather51175 жыл бұрын
@@karmakarma3607 Dude this one is fake one but his wife is too hot, no wonder that's why he broke the rules n get married...😂
@karmakarma36075 жыл бұрын
@@godfather5117 go and tell your mom that she is hot... I'm sure you see your mom as hot girl...
@godfather51175 жыл бұрын
@@karmakarma3607 haha fake karmapa follower is mad and attack straight to Mom... Nice going, keep it up. 😂👍
@karmakarma36075 жыл бұрын
@@godfather5117 Ya bcoz you have used your dirty words with your dirty mind on our mom,she is our spiritual mom... so i thought you must be belong from hot family... that you see everyone is hot even your own biological mom.....
@repaly59757 жыл бұрын
This is Fake
@chilloutworshiper11636 жыл бұрын
Repaly No. It is not. :)
@compassionandwisdom43116 жыл бұрын
It is not a fake , we had better get used to Trinley Thaye Dorje as Karmapa OTD has quit.
@Mizukageize6 жыл бұрын
@@compassionandwisdom4311 OTD has quit? What do you mean by that? As karma kagyu student, I always supported Thinley Thaje Dorje, but Im still curious whats the OTDs deal.
@spinalcrackerbox6 жыл бұрын
He is referring to the skype talk Ogyen Trinley gave at their Kagyu Monlam this year in March, It's quite the brow raiser. While I wouldn't go so far to say he has quit, he states things that, IMHO, no true Karmapa would ever state. Search for "Special Message from His Holiness the Karmapa " 37:48 long clip.
@compassionandwisdom43116 жыл бұрын
I agree he did not say that he quit but he has certainly consciously disqualified himself. In my books that is quitting, especially when one takes into account how his Jamgon Kontrol Rimpoche had to quit in stages over several years. It is an interesting story to watch unfold.
@chimetashi39516 жыл бұрын
he is not the incarnation..o might God..
@karmakarma36076 жыл бұрын
Chime tashi you are the most foolish person in the world
@chimetashi39516 жыл бұрын
Karma kagyu ok u r right ..but I have no any against this lama..u r right..
@christophemoret34236 жыл бұрын
you should read the history of karma lineage : the 15em Karmapa got married for His Long Life and got 2 Sons the second kongtrul Rinpoche and the 14 Shamarpa this is what we name the wisdom and skilfull Means
@phurwanamgyal68735 жыл бұрын
All the karmapa's are fake and there is no such thing called recarnation..i have been a monk myself.i know monks do these to be in limelight nd get extra financial benifits.. this way of practicing budhism has brought downfall of our spritual core values..which is to live honestly nd right path... These days monk enjoys extra benifits wearing red robe.. its insane.. i left monk once i got to acknowledge yet i believe nd practice buddhism.. 😊
@dolma48074 жыл бұрын
Phurwa Namgyal when you say fake than how can you still practice ,? You don’t make sense .
@phurwanamgyal68734 жыл бұрын
@@dolma4807 buddhism means peace for man kind.prosperity for the society.sustainable life for all living being not Incarnation. Many of collegue too doest believe in incarnation. There is no such thing as incarnation in any religion My Dear, its made up to gain,attract social attention.
@dolma48074 жыл бұрын
Phurwa Namgyal you are fake
@xianglung23063 жыл бұрын
@@phurwanamgyal6873 if you don’t believe in rebirth and reincarnation, then don’t puke your stupid stuffs here coz you are not a Buddhist.
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