Yesterday’s Gymnastics {1988} Evaluated With Current Rules {2020}

Have you ever wondered how vintage routines from the past would score? Wait no longer! In 1988, Daniela Silivas was awarded a “perfect 10,” for her compulsory floor routine. Elena Shushunova and Svetlana Boguinskaia (Boginskaya) both scored 9.90s. Today, though, the results would have been very different!

[@norapeterson6331]

Silivas is one of the best gymnasts ever ❤

[@cropduster8798]

Today the floor is sprung so huuuge difference.

[@Rizzlergoblin578]

it was sprung in 1988, actually either the same or very similar level of spring as well. also they didn't do their actual tumbling passes in compulsories, they just did a dance through with minimal tumbling. Daniela Silivas literally first did her double-double at these olympics, and you can see the level of spring hasn't really hardly changed at all.

[@mrparts]

If I remember correctly, the diagrams for this routine showed the first leap going into the corner didn’t have to show 180 split. Also the straddle leap at 1:00 didn’t require 180 either. I guess that’s why so many gymnasts didn’t hit 180 on these leaps in over 4 years of training this routine.

[@worldartgym]

That was so nice of the judges to not require 180° back then - every skill nowadays has a required position.

[@worldartgym]

A rare luxury!

[@mrparts]

@@worldartgym it was possibly seen more as artistic flourish . Like there was no requirement for hand repulsion in the back handspring on the beam routine yet many top-scoring gymnasts did it that way.

[@lifeandstylewiththedivas4688]

This is spot on. My sister was a gymnast back then and I recall her telling me about the requirements. Daniela excelled at this compulsory quad because her extension, artistry and technique were unmatched on beam and floor. Though full split wasn’t required in that straddle leap, it showed her mastery of both the artistic and technical aspects of the routine. Not to mention her interpretation. What’s impressive is that when comparing this with the ‘87 World’s Compulsory, both scored 10.0 but her interpretations are quite different. In ‘87 her dance elements were lighter and more fluid. In ‘88, she was sharper and used the sharper notes to emphasize perfection in a pose, leap or flourish and worked in harmony with the pianist. Silivas was levels and light years ahead of Shoushounova, Boginskaya and Dobre when it came to compulsory floor and beam.

[@joannah1887]

The gymnasts today could not do these compulsory routines. I miss the aristry.... 🙀🙀🙀

[@giuseppericci516]

I don’t see the meaning of doing this. These athletes trained with the rules of 1988 and was evaluated with the 1988 rules.

[@kattehkittyable]

By this period in gymnastics history execution/ “virtuosity” has pretty much been established and little has changed from this aspect over time. Line is line, straight is straight, pointed feet are pointed feet, deviations are deviations. In videos used as examples, content creators don’t tend to use videos of routines where there are major unplanned mistakes (unless evaluating the results of a specific competition), and these are the deductions that tend to vary from code to code, whereas built-in form errors tend to be standard and comparable between codes and amongst the top gymnasts should usually incur no more than 0.1 (to 0.3 if serious) deduction for each error. Doing comparisons like this allows for a measured comparison of the timelessness of the great gymnastic legends - these days execution scores on floor in elite levels never crack the 9.0 mark, a mid-8 is considered outstanding, so these gymnasts are still outstanding in their own right if they would still score in the 9s by modern standards. It reminds us not to dismiss gymnastics legends like Daniela Silvas as simply part of a bygone era, but as role models of execution, precision, and virtuosity to aspire to.

[@kattehkittyable]

I would have taken an extra 0.1 twice for visibly flexed feet in 2 leaps for Shusonova. (Especially when compared to the others who had unquestionably pointed feet)

[@14spokenwords]

I can't figure out how Silvia's didn't get it but what a stacked podium.... so much drama with making the USA team and only Phoebe Mills got a bronze on beam. Jeez!!! RIP Elena

[@karenKristal]

Daniella is so great. I dont care that it was 34 years ago. She was robbed.

[@LM-1825]

That routine by Daniela sets her apart as the GOAT. It's brilliant, sublime....

[@inspiteofbecauseof4745]

Sorry, I respectfully disagree. The form of several current gymnasts often have bent legs, separated legs, low incomplete splits on jumps, but have such a high starting score that they can get away with it. Bring back technical gymnastics with compulsory routines and optional routines. Who’s great at all of it.

[@mateofesrivlaes7576]

I can.t understand yet how shoushounova won with her easy exercises and many imperfections.ah yes the support of judges!!! That.s more important that all her errors

[@pappysprite]

Nelli Kim

[@mariagabriellasoraggi1236]

Meravigliose! Artiste del movimento. Tanta grazia. ❤ Francamente non amo le ginnaste attuali, mascolinizzate e per nulla aggraziate.

[@cropduster8798]

Cart horses with no elegance.

[@geriatkinson8667]

These are only compulsory floor exercises! History of gymnastics. The free floor exercises should be compared with 2017-2020 code of points for a true comparison. Okay, I was born in the 1960s however so I would know being older lol

[@worldartgym]

Just showing how judging has changed through time!

[@lifeandstylewiththedivas4688]

This is more a comparison of what an Execution Score under today’s system would look like. Though, some leaps didn’t require a full 180 and judges didn’t deduct for small steps or balance checks back then, the bigger point is to show how Silivas’s overall technique and execution would fair much better under today’s scoring system than any of her contemporaries.

[@Boban1611]

So many different variations of the compulsory music. That was fantastic.

[@worldartgym]

Thank you Boban! Love your channel!!

[@Boban1611]

@@worldartgym Thank you so much. What a wonderful way to wake up and read your answer. It is really an honor. I love your channel also very much. ❤🥰

[@melissakerber8287]

The compulsory floor music from this quad was always my favorite.

[@cecilianovais212]

Silivas perfect as always

[@spribic11]

No, she wasn't. And when she was standing at her arms, her leg position was not even shown (and Boginskaya and Shushunova was getting deductions there) 😂. All that video just to promote Silivas? Yes, she was great - as the other two gimnasts as well!!!

[@ameliabedelia7018]

@@spribic11time stamp?

[@lifeandstylewiththedivas4688]

I believe the reference is to the handstand pirouette with 180 split. Silivas’s isn’t shown but there are other videos of the same performance where that too shows her flawless 180 split, control and balance.

[@pappysprite]

@@spribic11You’ve got to be kidding???? Silivas’ performance here was superior in every way to Boguinskaya and Shushounova’s. Her score was a well deserved 10.

[@spribic11]

@@pappysprite 🤣 Don't be ridiculous!

[@len10100]

Shushonova and Silivas both scored 10 on FX compulsory 👀

[@worldartgym]

Shushunova scored a 9.9 in compulsory, 10 in optional 🤓

[@len10100]

@@worldartgymI stand corrected! Wow! All this time I thought how did they both get a 10 when silivas was way better than shushova in compulsories 😂

[@worldartgym]

I probably wouldn’t have realized except Shushunova’s performance really didn’t even stack up to a 9.9, her dance was so tight, her optional routine suited her so much better and highlighted her dance ability! Her name, reputation, and being last up certainly served her well.

[@len10100]

@@worldartgym right! Considering also that Bouginskaya had also scored a 9.9. 😂

[@gabrielacruz8127]

A nadia la desbancado las rusas mukina y otras así que de nada sirve la perfección 🎉la perfección no siempre les daba el ORO! ESO ESTA CLARO!.

[@worldartgym]

Nadia les dio a las rusas la motivación de ganar otra vez, y Mukhina llegó a ser la respuesta; es desafortunado que Mukhina se paralizó antes de Moscú porque habría sido una lucha entre las dos! Durante la época de Nadia, Mukhina no ya había llegado a ser la campeona como en 78-79; y durante esa época había mucha política que se prevenía que Nadia se entrenara bien. A ver que las dos campeones competieran juntas a la misma vez!

[@RAFAAMARILLAS]

This is something we all saw, Boginskaya was even better that the winner.

[@stpark22]

Elena Shushunova's score was very inflated. 9.75 at best for that routine.

[@lifeandstylewiththedivas4688]

A 9.85 might have been more appropriate but under the standards back then, most of the deductions in the video, save flexed feet and amplitude, were not taken in the 80s. They didn’t always need to hit a 180 split in a leap or jump… look no further than Mary Lou Retton’s switch leap series on floor and beam from the previous quad. Back then if you had straight legs and pointed toes, five to ten degrees off was good enough 😆

[@gabrielacruz8127]

Daniel como estana bien delgada pues la flexibilidad le ayudaba más 🎉 y pues es más ágil por eso le dieron el10 prefecto! Pero las tres son gimnastas muy reconocidas y las rusas son las mejores gimnastas del mu do porque no necesitaban perfección en sus coreografías no les daban diezes pero ganaban el campeonato

[@bluejhaygrl]

Execution deductions were not much different back then; judging still had Nadia fever in the 80s, and everyone scored well above what they truly deserved; the 1988 games for me were the most corrupt ive ever seen.

[@Misael-z8w7p]

Parece ay en suelo son 2 veces

[@worldartgym]

Tres veces, son iguales porque tienen los mismos elementos y movimientos

[@imansyahkemalimanirzhan9941]

SHE WAS ROBBED

[@ajibumiserpongdamai1519]

DANIRLA WAS ROBBED

[@kundun5]

Shushunova was awful! Her compulsory were some of the worst! Can’t believe how over scored she was on every event. Bars alone should’ve kept her off every Soviet team! Just an awful gymnast sorry

[@worldartgym]

Awful is a strong word. Granted she wasn’t as flexible or artistic as Silivas, I can’t exactly categorize her as awful.

[@philippemilne951]

She had great difficulty and creativity in her routines but you're right, she's not very artistic so the execution wasn't very goof