Yet another knife designed by a YouTuber: Zack goes wild with the CIVIVI Yonder.

There were at least 4 or 5 knives released in 2024 designed by famous KZbinrs. This is one of them. In this video I’m running CIVIVI Yonder designed by Zack in the Wild through the EDCircle testing. Will it hold up? How’s steel heat treat? Durability?
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[@CuttingBoardRx]

Did anything in this video surprise you? Let me know in the comments!

[@thorwaldjohanson2526]

I bought the civivi yonder, my first edc knife. Very carriabble, however, I don't like the flicking action. I can't snap it open.

[@thorwaldjohanson2526]

BTW, I don't mind affiliate links. If I do research on products to buy, I like to use those links to thank the creators for their work. If not adding the link for the knife, perhaps add the sharpeners and equipment you use for testing at least.

[@CuttingBoardRx]

@@thorwaldjohanson2526 I have some links to tools and sharpening tools in the description. Some folks choose to buy super thanks, it’s a heart shaped icon next to share… Thanks for being a subscriber!

[@lumntoob999]

I love the testing you do and all of the rigs you’ve built. I have confidence in your methodology, results, and opinions, including the sharpness/edge retention test. I appreciate what you’re doing so I wanted to contribute at least something to the channel.

[@CuttingBoardRx]

@@lumntoob999 Thank you so much! I’m speechless! Very generous of you!

[@Pzykoh_Tey]

I love the way you devised your own version of a standardised test for knives. Very scientific. Well done sir 👏👏👏

[@CuttingBoardRx]

Thank you for the kind words! I appreciate it. Repeatability is key here. I will continue to improve the methods

[@Huey4214]

Glad to see a true budget knife score so high on your EDC circuit of tests. This one is high on my list to add to the collection.

[@judodavid1]

Thank you, I enjoy your content!

[@CuttingBoardRx]

@@judodavid1 Thank You for being a subscriber!

[@judodavid1]

The pleasure is mine @

[@tombrown4683]

I was the 100th 'like' on tbis video. Got a handle on your rating system now provided by your breakdown of the points. The sharpness testing is good as we all want a knife to arrive sharp enough to be useful. I have had a number of knives that needed to be sharpened right out of the box. Mostly a couple of decades ago. Still, inquiring minds etc.

[@arjungandhi1242]

I really like how thorough and thought out these tests are. The Yonder looks like a good functional EDC folder. Seems Zack and WE Knife did a good job

[@Trolldaddy5]

I like the way youre testing sharpness. My only question is , how would the fishing line compare to whatever filliment bess is using. It would be interesting to see the test done with the bess filliment for comparison. I definitely think pulling is more accurate than using the levearage that is applied in the bess tester

[@CuttingBoardRx]

Just ordered some of that wire. Thanks a lot…

[@Ingeb91]

The problem the bess has is that it only tests push cut sharpness, which, most of the time, we don't cut like that. So this pulling method seems better to me.

[@Trolldaddy5]

@Ingeb91 it's still push cutting though, bc the wire isn't sliding on the blade.

[@Edcreviewer]

Yeah either testing method is testing only push cut no matter if it's bess or his method and it kinda has to be. It's all relative though... As, someone with a bess tester and whom fishes I can say there is definitely a difference between the bess filament and mono fishing line and I would assume that the bess wire is more consistent in diameter than mono, now high quality flurocarbon from Japan I have messured and it's diameter is extremely consistent but your typical mono filament fishing lines aren't very consistent however with that said in a test like this the slight variations in Dia of 4lb test isn't gonna show its self to a meaningful value with a highly accurate scale and tons of cuts sampled yeah you may see a variation of a few % but that would be under very strict testing protocols and wouldn't give any real world data that's of use. The testing he is doing is showing consist enough numbers to show that the methodology is a sound metirc and giving usable relative data.

[@PoetFisherman]

So much better than the common knife review video that's basically - oh wow, it flicks open so nice and looks cool.

[@CuttingBoardRx]

@@PoetFisherman I appreciate the compliment and thanks for subscribing!

[@PoetFisherman]

@CuttingBoardRx well thanks for doing such good work. I saw your vid testing some Salts and the Adira. I wish Sal or Eric were hip to the washer issue.i can't remember if the Siren has bronze washers or not but I think it does. It's been my go-to fishing knife for years. Maybe I'll see about looking for some nylon washers of the same dimensions for it.

[@CuttingBoardRx]

@ If your knife isn’t rusting, why replace the washers?

[@PoetFisherman]

@CuttingBoardRx OCD over corrosion

[@larsmenefee7649]

Just found your channel I am looking forward to more testing.

[@CuttingBoardRx]

Thanks for subscribing!

[@stevendalton7686]

I thoroughly enjoy this channel. I find myself watching the videos even when the knife under review does not interest me.

[@CuttingBoardRx]

@@stevendalton7686 Thank you! I am doing my best to be informative

[@davidcoats1037]

I like your sharpness tester. Seems like a smart, consistent way to gather data. I’m sure it’s a lot cheaper than buying loads of those Bess testing strips. Thank you for the video!

[@CuttingBoardRx]

I just ordered BESS wire to see if it will be less time consuming than knotting little pieces of fishing line… thanks for the positive feedback!

[@tombrown4683]

​@CuttingBoardRx yeah, was just wondering about the preparation time spent on monofilament knot tying.

[@keepout7811]

I hope to see some of these new kershaws on your channel in the future. Especially the iridium launch and 0512

[@CuttingBoardRx]

Definitely a possibility.

[@777edge]

Love your quantifiable testing @CuttingBoardRx. Keep it up! I do have one comment for your consideration : You talk about the edge bevel width comparison on each side of the blade and then directly correlate this to an accurate and even edge angle. Remember that this only applies if the edge is actually perfectly centered. As an example, imagine the grind on a chisel, or even a Japanese grind. You can, for example have a 15 degree edge with a huge bevel on one side, and then you can quickly create another 15 degree bevel on the other side but in this example the edge is not centered and aligned on the the blade - it is offset to one side of the cutting centerline and shows up as one huge bevel and one tiny bevel, both being 15 degrees of so preferred. You can also then go ahead and remove a lot of steel with (for example) a 10 degree angle on the small side and stop when the edge bevel is the same size on both sides, but the edge will be misaligned and not centered with the blade - even though it would visually look the same size on both sides. The second point to be considered is the fact that a knife might not have proper distal taper grind, causing the edge at the tip to possibly be wider or in some cases narrower than the rest of the blade - even though the angle might possibly be the same. Lastly, I have a question - what gel are you using on your Leeb tester between the block and the blade? It obviously gives you very accurate results.👌🏻

[@just9911]

He is using a hand sanitizer gel if I remember correctly. It’s a pretty brilliant idea.

[@777edge]

@just9911 Thanks!

[@CuttingBoardRx]

I’m using sanitizer gel and I’ve seen some lab techs use light lithium grease. I chose the gel because it is easier to clean up plus it degreases the surface.

[@777edge]

​@@CuttingBoardRx Great idea, thanks!

[@AeratingThatching]

Thanks for your video

[@CuttingBoardRx]

@@AeratingThatching Glad you enjoyed it!

[@anthonyrollins9825]

ty for the testing , now to wait for the XL version cause you know Sasquatch mits.

[@CuttingBoardRx]

That’s a great idea. But! Zack just got a job at Boker USA as a VP of marketing. Will he be able to collaborate with CIVIVI?

[@garciaslife0420]

Hi, I was wondering if we could ever see you review a lil native, it’s one of the knives I want to get in the future and I wanna see both you testing it and reviewing it. I’d love to see how it holds up as I’ve seen you do the micro jimbo. I’d want to see how the s45 one works as compared to the micro due to it being almost 40 dollars cheaper due to it being one of the exclusives. But regardless I’m ready to see what you post next, good luck and hope to see you growing

[@rustyknifelover4463]

Another great test. I like this knife for a minimalistic design.

[@CuttingBoardRx]

@@rustyknifelover4463 It looks and feels minimalistic but the level of sophistication is visible in almost every detail. Keeper for me.

[@none4now-k9c]

Thank you for the indepth review. I am pretty happy with mine other than the soft deployment. Minimal wrist flick helps or follow through with the thumb studs works. I was wondering, would drilling holes a bit closer towards the pivot, for the omega spring make it more snappy? What are your thoughts on this? I don't mind modifying things to my liking.

[@CuttingBoardRx]

I wouldn’t recommend drilling holes. Omega spring isn’t the only culprit here.

[@licencepo4616]

Rather satisfied with my purchase more than my vosteed raccoon. I also find the geometry of the blade incredible. Thank you for confirming it with this test

[@johnhughes905]

Thanks for another thoughtful review. When applying the antler to the edge, would it be of benefit to reproducibility to standardize or measure the application pressure?

[@davidmadrid3453]

Your videos continue to improve and make most of the other knife videos on KZbin irrelevant. It makes me happy to think that your videos make metalcomplex piss his pants

[@CuttingBoardRx]

@@davidmadrid3453 Metal’s biological functions are not on top of my priority list. Thanks for the great compliment though!

[@drpoppyseed]

Is there anywhere to see all logged knife scores in one place?

[@CuttingBoardRx]

@@drpoppyseed That’s coming soon. Not enough data yet. Any particular knife you’d like to see?

[@drpoppyseed]

@ nothing specifically, but having some of the old standards as landmarks in the set would be interesting to see. Endura/delica, griptilian, para2/3, Ontario rat, etc.

[@CuttingBoardRx]

@drpoppyseed I am hitting the Mini Bugout next and am thinking about mashing Ganzo against RAT family as it is a budget cross bar version of those. Para’s that I have have to wait for when I test liner locks. I also plan to review some popular frame locks.

[@adrianjagmag]

@@CuttingBoardRx I have the Rat 1 and 2...and a few Ganzos including the Rat inspired one and that thing has seen hellish abuse from me but keeps on ticking. Ganzos for the price in 440C or D2 are a better buy overall, only issue is QC used to be iffy about 5-7 years back, but something changed and after that the heat treat and finish improved a great deal, good to see more engineers who understand objectivity in testing making videos such as these. Other companies to check out on the budget side would be SRM and Ruike.

[@CuttingBoardRx]

@ The tests will speak the truth… very very soon.

[@grumpyoldwizard]

I like the Kizer Cormorant. It looks similar to this one and it's 4V version cuts like a laser.

[@CuttingBoardRx]

@@grumpyoldwizard Unfortunately I can’t own every knife out there. But this another Kizer coming to the channel soon.

[@grumpyoldwizard]

I like this. Zac is pretty cool.

[@CuttingBoardRx]

Totally 👍 concur

[@passwurd7987]

It's official CBRx, you're stalking me. The day I carry a Bradford 3.2 in "Magnatuff" you make a video on it. The day I carry my Kunwu Padre, Kunwu gets a HRC test. The day I carry my Yonder, you make a Yonder video. Just how do you know what's in my pocket?!

[@CuttingBoardRx]

I’m just reacting to the popular demand, and if I’m lucky, I’m a step ahead!

[@kush662]

What are your thoughts on Indo - Persian knives? Particularly Pesh Kabz, Khanjar and the yemeni Jambiya? Those were typically suppose to be versatile, multi purpose daggers. Unlike today, you typically had that one knife to do it all sort of thing. Do you think those designs can actually be multipurpose? They look really cool, especially the Damascus ones.

[@CuttingBoardRx]

The reason these knives are region specific is because they evolved to fill the specific local niche and style of warfare. Not sure if that makes the better or worse, but personally I’m not big on trailing point knives 🤷‍♂️🤷

[@jordy703]

Mine had terrible action. Love the design but the lock stick was horrible on mine. I had the micarta one. The coating comes off real easy that’s a bummer. The price is cool but I would prefer a Kizer or QSP parrot glide lock. That one is awesome. Greet tests as usual 👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼

[@Cyber_Kriss]

As someone who live where the imperial system is not being used, I'd like to see a double display with the measured values in millimeters, and the weight in grams. Aside that, I really like your style and your work. Cheers.

[@CuttingBoardRx]

Noted

[@BobbyRay-v7d]

You do a great job at least you give explanations about things it is very informative You should design a knife you know exactly what people want n Great job Thanks

[@CuttingBoardRx]

@@BobbyRay-v7d If I ever design a knife, it will not get positive reviews from Metal Complex, so it won’t sell. I’ll just have to wait until Chinese knife industry replace him and couple other reviewers with an AI-generated “influencers”. Maybe then?… Thanks for the compliment 👍

[@monkpato]

Great review. Looks too small for my hands and the blade is run a bit soft (although no reason to expect anything else). Otherwise a nice knife! If he came out with a larger version I'd be interested.

[@Ingeb91]

The Yonder seems like a good next knife for me.

[@CuttingBoardRx]

There’s a knife coming to the market in a couple of weeks designed by DCA called CJRB Maximal. Very similar concept but with RPM9 steel. It’s going to be $50

[@SteelAddicted]

I have to wonder based off of ur sharpness test compared with the hrc findings what’s going on there as any 14c I’ve ever used that was what I would consider soft under preformed greatly on edge retention but once it’s in the upper percent of its hrc range or what I would consider hard ( I am going off of me using the steel as I don’t have a machine to test the hrc) it’s edge retention goes up drastically. Have u had similar findings?

[@jkn2k]

Idk. How much are they involved in the design? Shape , Steel , Handle materials, lock type ?

[@CuttingBoardRx]

Ben actually contributed a lot to the what we call EDC knives. He worked for CIVIVI after BHQ and is responsible for the Banter and Mini Banter, and his own best seller is Knafs Lander 2. Zac was the inspiration for some knife demonstrations that I conduct on outdoors-aimed knives. I am about to test the Lander 4 fixed blades both styles of which are arriving to my house tomorrow 😉

[@harryanderson7282]

What other steel(s) is 14C28N comparable to?

[@thorwaldjohanson2526]

Aeb-l and other similar fine carbide razor steels. 14c28n is pretty much the best non-powder-metallurgy stainless steel there is. It is extremely tough, has very fine carbides and can be sharpened to a razor edge. All while being quite stainless. The only area where it lacks (mostly compared to supersteels) is abrasion resistance. Still better than your simple high carbon steels though.

[@adrianjagmag]

directly? Nitro V. Whereas 12C27 is comparable to AEB-L. Also Aus 6 and 8 intermediate approximately but with added nitrogen to boost max hardness achievable and no moly.

[@stevenlachance8576]

Bess testers are considerably less than $350. More like$250 for the top of the line one gm resolution model.

[@CuttingBoardRx]

That’s $200 more than I spent on the load gage. But if you interested in me using BESS in the videos, feel free to donate one to the channel 👍🤓

[@tombrown4683]

Also believe you misspoke @ 12:28 when describing the variability of hardness levels on the customery Rockwell tester you say 1.5 points plus or minus. Then you use the example that if it is supposed to be 62 HRC , the range is 61.5 to63.5. Im sure you intended to say the low number would be 60.5. Anyway, no criticism, just wanted you to know. And know I was paying attention.

[@richardhenry1969]

I love your testing. An im a huge fan of any knife not a liner or frame lock. I just don't like these tiny knives. I carry a coldsteel voyager everyday. If i want a 3in blade ill carry a fixed blade. I don't understand why these companies can't Rockwell test their blades. Saying a blade is a certain hardness without proof is just lying. These knives are very cheap to make in bulk. I don't understand people that get mad when a company is called out. They get mad at the guy showing they lie not the company that conned them. KZbin really mystifies me.

[@erinsquirkychannel501]

Wish it was a leaf shaped blade like mini Grouper an blade design like on the older benchmade scales the lines Goin out kinda like a sun rise, and half in longer handle

[@CuttingBoardRx]

I’m sure if this model ends up being a success, there will be blade shape variations. I too wish the handle was a little longer, which btw would allot space for a lanyard hole.

[@adrianjagmag]

Most of these new youtuber designed knives just look like tweaked 'G lock' Ganzos which are themselves tweaked designs from Benchmade and other companies. For the price I might as well get two knives from Ruike, Ganzo, SRM etc as they're anyway made by the same OEMs at the end of the day.

[@CuttingBoardRx]

@@adrianjagmag I like Ruike and Ganzo even though there’s a lot of snobbery in the community about them. Ganzo is coming to the channel soon, stay tuned

[@jimmylarge1148]

You should do a review of the gerber highbrow. I have one and it’s the worst knife ever designed and then made. I’d love to see you do a review of it that’d be hilarious 😂 I bring this up because I just saw a shirt from stassa and it looks like benchmade cloned the highbrow, added carbon on the handle and is charging 500$!!!! 😂

[@sterlingstoots3215]

It couldn't be worse than the 35 year old Gerber paraframe so useless and so cheap. The packaging is tougher than the Blade steel.

[@jimmylarge1148]

@ it’s gotta be worse! It’s heavy. Thick. Poorly assisted. Blade looks small for the handle. The lock has a safety u have to undo before deploying. I’ve seen the paraframe at all the boxes but gladly never got one. Idk how I ended up with this highbrow but I hate it so much it’s never been used 😂 I’ve kept it for like 10 years just so I can hate it 😂

[@sterlingstoots3215]

@@jimmylarge1148 it may be Worse 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣

[@jimmylarge1148]

@ I still try to like gerber cause my dad liked them as a GOOD knife that didn’t break the bank (back in the 80’s-90’s). They looked good and were USA. Now I’m always just disappointed. I saw their version of the bug out recently and it looks good and is still USA and I may get one someday to see how it is but it, like benchmade is overpriced. 😞

[@francescomotolese4644]

I like the disgn. But blade are to thin in proportion and handle a little to short....grear simple guy zach!

[@MrBhcole]

Just wish it was bigger. These are for baby hands.

[@Edcreviewer]

While I really like Zac as an individual and his personality this knife only won a bladeshow award because of WHO he is and not because of the design. The design is not that great and I was quite disappointed at it in hand.

[@CuttingBoardRx]

I think Ben had a lot of input into the design. I think the idea of is to offer a variation on Lander 3 and/or mini banter. I like it quite a bit but not more than Mini Iridium.

[@Edcreviewer]

​@@CuttingBoardRxit most definitely looks like it's got plenty of Ben's design language in it. Yeah I get what they are trying to do with it but yeah it doesn't compare to the mini iridium or many others for that matter. In my opinion of course.

[@Mike_Y.]

Yeah too small for my desire to purchase.

[@lorenfuchek105]

It's Ben Peterson not Patterson. Does that make you the new guy then?

[@CuttingBoardRx]

@@lorenfuchek105 I thought it’s Petersen actually but really, he is a genius the way he runs his business!

[@lorenfuchek105]

Agreed 👊

[@David_DY]

​@@CuttingBoardRx 🫳🏻🎤

[@lorenfuchek105]

@CuttingBoardRx Those were the best Videos for Blade HQ imo. When Zach and Ben ruled the world lol . Miss those days really.

[@David_DY]

​@@CuttingBoardRx Leaving BHQ and going out on his own was a great life decision!!! Ben is Great!!!

[@StitchJones]

Zack in the Wild is a quiter and then went broke and came crawling back. Cannot stand the guy. Will never support him.

[@CuttingBoardRx]

I haven’t seen a single knife personality/company/designer yet that didn’t have some controversy associated with them. Just remember: it’s never as bad as they say and it’s never as good as they say…