Yevhen Hlibovytsky - Which will Win: Ukraine's Democratic Horizontal or Russian Autocratic Vertical?

[@yanabystrova]

You are doing an extraordinary job of explaining Ukraine to the West in recognizable terms!!! Thank you so very much! 💙💛

[@CesareRomulus]

AWESOME RECOUNT OF UKRAINE HISTORY! Fantastic guest! Thank you very much.

[@hififlipper]

How credible the guests of SC are. Very insightful talk and with respect one of the best interviews so far. Thank you very much!

[@GARDENER42]

Congratulations on hitting 100k subscribers - a far tougher goal for sensible & factual content compared to other genres.

[@777nydia1]

Yevhen is a great chap to have on right now. Very lucid. Great depth to his knowledge. And we need to listen to him here in the West. And not fall asleep on Ukraine, for our own future as well. Thanks for inviting him, Jonathon.

[@SiliconCurtain]

👍👍👍 so glad you enjoyed it as much as I did. He’ll definitely be back on.

[@JohnDoe-x4p]

Once again, you bring truly high-quality content, Jonathan, which I share with a few thousand people almost daily. I love the level of quality and empathy you provide. You more than deserve the 100K subscribers. I hope to hear more from Yevhen Hlibovytsky.

[@SiliconCurtain]

Thank you - and so pleased you enjoyed this episode.

[@WizardofoOZeAU]

That was an enlightening interview. Thanks.

[@PandemoniumMeltDown]

Indeed!

[@JaneSoole]

What an absorbing discussion Learning so much but must go to bed and pick up tomorrow..time 12.30 am 30th! Thank you both for such a terrific history lesson. Jane Soole, 80 years.

[@SiliconCurtain]

So glad you got value from it!

[@johncromwell2529]

Thx Jonathon Great interviews! 🙏👏👍🇺🇦🤞

[@hrvojesvetec3058]

Ty Jonathan and Yevhen👍👍..great interview,episode as usual!..imo SC is 1 of the best podcasts,if not the best..we need to keep supporting Ukraine and make sure this incredible country/people prevails against Russians delusions,lies,terror and ethnic cleasning!.stay STRONG and UNITED Ukraine!.🇺🇦💯🇸🇪💙💛👍

[@SiliconCurtain]

👍👍👍🇺🇦🇺🇦🇺🇦

[@tamarasidlartchouk3138]

The best and the most fascinating analysis ever! Huge gratitude to you Jonathan for inviting Mr Hlibovskyj . The Berlin wall has been moved to the Ukrainian border. So true. Slava Ukraini ! 👏👏🇺🇦✌️✌️✌️♥️

[@DarkestAlice]

Thank you, Jonathan, for inviting Yevhen Hlibovytsky to your channel. Thank you, Yevhen Hlibovytsky, for this very interesting conversation with Jonathan. I hope, you will come back for another discussion. 🇺🇦 Перемоги та миру всім українцям! 🇺🇦

[@SiliconCurtain]

Yes, I found this fascinating, and look forward to speaking with him again!

[@DarkestAlice]

@@SiliconCurtain Wonderful! Thank you, Jonathan, looking very much forward to your next conversation. Your channel is truly a treasure trove. I also hope, that Beverly Ochieng will be back soon. 🇺🇦 Перемоги та миру всім українцям! 🇺🇦

[@Michael57825]

Congrats 100 thou. Good work. Quality that matters!

[@SiliconCurtain]

Yes! Thank you!

[@luminyam6145]

Fantastic interview, thank you.

[@eddiegoodman9267]

Thanks for the update and views 🇺🇲 🇺🇦 Oklahoma USA 🇺🇦🇺🇲 Prayers ❤❤❤

[@SiliconCurtain]

👍👍👍

[@davidarthurrutter]

Great, Jonathon!

[@SiliconCurtain]

👍

[@VoidAspect]

The thing that stands put about many of Jonathan's guests is that he platforms authentic Ukrainian and European voices in a way that Western media and politicians often fail to do

[@raraavis7782]

Hearing about Ukraine's history always leaves me slightly in awe. You'd expect a country devoid of 'spirit' and resilience, after all they have been put through. And instead they're everything but...

[@raraavis7782]

27:40 and onwards was a real eye opener for me. Very illuminating.

[@PandemoniumMeltDown]

Leading by example.

[@hughjazz64]

Western intellectuals and Slavic Studies academia would benefit greatly from this interview. Thank you for independent journalism, Jonathan

[@ItsMe_Hello_People]

Thank you for another great and interesting interview. 💙💛

[@drywallsurgeon]

Enjoyed this guest, gets a lot right. 👍

[@cmbergersct3492]

That was so interesting when Mr Hlibovytsky poses the question whether the Ukrainian model of government is a feature or a bug of government. But then even more fascinating was when he said if this is the way that the Ukrainian government works and it's successful then if it "melds" with Europe it could be -as he put it - "crushed" by trying to conform to the European model. It's just so unique and it would be nice if that was brought into the consciousness of the world so it could be emulated, particularly by strong democracies. Really really interesting and could be the topic for a whole long show -or panel, even!

[@hififlipper]

I am actually going to translate that for my people. I think it is crucial to understand what Yevhen has to say. To understand Ukraine and it's struggle is needed for understand the cruciality of an ongoing support the transformation of Ukraine into a democratic member and partner for the free world, that is the intention of the organisation, Mr Hilbovytsky stands for. Ukraine has been an unkown country to many until 2022. That's why Putin could just take 20% of it in 2014 so easily and why my people still not trust Ukraine too much. Thank you.

[@draganjagodic4056]

Jonathan, Viktor Orban just introduced the "Entrance card" for Russians and Byelorussians, making them possible to enter Hungary without any security checking. In Hungary, experts warn about the danger for other EU and NATO countries, because these Russians will be able to travel further, once they have entered one EU and NATO country.

[@clarkeorchard2304]

Geez. Am sure it's countries neighbouring are over the moon Eject from EU maybe, as it fails corruption and migration rules.

[@GrahamCStrouse]

Didn’t know that. That’s something we all need to keep an eye on.

[@soyyo85]

Слава Україні та її воінам...

[@mike4480]

Glory to All of the Heroes of Ukraine … 💙💛💙

[@hrvojesvetec3058]

Indeed..Ukrainians are incredible people!.stay strong and UNITED!👍 Western countries can only DREAM of having a sociaty as strong as Ukraines..know its very difficult for you in many ways but dont give up,never give up to agression!..have faith in Ukraine,its people and Ukrainian Army!.with respect and love from Sweden..Slava Ukraini!🇺🇦🇸🇪💯💙💛👍

[@khersonskiyarbuzkhersonski2460]

@@hrvojesvetec3058 Согласен, никто в мире так еще не готов умирать за Америку, и за ее интересы как украинцы.

[@hammertoolz]

Another great guest Jonathan, and congrats of reaching 100k subscribers

[@cmbergersct3492]

Your last question addresses his concern that he expressed earlier - that UkraineStyle will be crushed by European style of government. This is a video for the history books. Thanks!

[@JudithBlair-o9q]

Thank you! I have been craving an explanation like this. Are any western leaders utilizing Yevhen’s deep knowledge and understanding? Jonathan’s followers, write to your leaders! Especially Americans need to expand their knowledge to understand that Russia will grow its army by zombie absorption of new territories. Live free or die is the motto of the American state New Hampshire. Why can’t Americans understand that Ukrainians feel the same, and the west must take our stand here and now?

[@asfafasdad384]

Thank you for giving very clear concept of what is Ukrain and Ukrainians now i feel i understand both much better

[@dmytrohelbak]

Thanks!

[@wendel6]

Such a fascinating guest & discussion! It's not entirely accurate that none of us from the West had any conception of Ukraine as a cultural grouping or even political entity. Hundreds of thousands of Ukrainian immigrants settled throughout Canada, United States, and South America, and they made sure we knew Ukrainians were distinct, and Ukrainian statehood was the ultimate goal.

[@crankycascadian]

Excellent connection between Ukrainian (Cossack) history and culture and what is happening today in Ukraine. Also appreciated his cautionary notes about future alienation of Ukrainian electorate from the West, when it join the West.

[@KathrynKlos]

Very clear description of the reality of this heartbreaking situation. The history needs to be understood to clarify how much the west needs to do much more.

[@vonries]

Thanks

[@stevenjohns-savage7024]

Thanks Jonathan 😊. Yeah 😃. Still watching over our little MAN and his toy fork😀. Stand strong 🔱💪😡

[@MrBudgiejoe]

Slava Ukraine 🇺🇦

[@Donovanwashere]

🇺🇦🇺🇸🇺🇦🇺🇸

[@cmbergersct3492]

He should talk to Phil Gordon, Harris' National Security Advisor. I tread that Gordon is more hawkishly pro-Ukraine. This is such an intelligent conversation and addresses so many great points! I think it could really persuade and provide some totally unexamined, unimagined arguments for defeating Russia.

[@alex990ism]

ya except for the baltics, the soviet union with its csto and csi after, were'nt free, you could say this is the first true break up of a republic from the soviet union, or the new russian empire

[@GrahamCStrouse]

For all our sakes Ukraine better win.

[@johncromwell2529]

100k! Great job now help Jonathon Pearce get over 50k at ATP geopolitics!

[@SiliconCurtain]

👍👍👍 great news for Jonathan MS!

[@halporter9]

Yeah! 100k. At least symbolic importance!

[@SeanZuljan]

We live in a world where for $50 a month we can reach out and tap on the shoulder of our leaders and say hey. But nobody does it.

[@betterdonotanswer]

This proverbial Ukrainian tradition of the horizontal communication and cooperation was mentioned by written sources since the 6th century AD and is named tolóka, which means a free joint work. When all neighbours build a new house for someone, for example. Or an army of drones for ZSU, over ninety percents of which are provided by Ukrainian people, not by government.

[@WalterBurton]

👍👍👍

[@cmbergersct3492]

👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏

[@ivan-Croatian]

RF will lose.

[@PandemoniumMeltDown]

Yep.

[@martavdz4972]

3:00 that's actually a mistake, because the Baltic countries were part of Russian Empire, too. With the Baltic countries, it's more because Lithuania was a large medieval duchy/kingdom. Plus the nations have vastly different, Northern nature-oriented cultures, historic ties with Scandinavia and are neither Slavic-speaking nor Orthodox.

[@asfafasdad384]

I think Yevhan is a perfect person to introduce Ukraine to Kamala, so she would know about Ukrain the true

[@betterdonotanswer]

2:15 Ukraine was not recognized as an independent nation only by few particular countries, namely Britain and France, forming during the WWI an alliance with Muscovy known as the Triple Entente, joined then by the USA. While Ukraine was an ally of Germany, Austria, Turkey and Bulgaria forming so called Quadruple Alliance, which situation explains why the brain of this particular British student struggled against the idea of Ukraine so much.

[@SeanZuljan]

Now let's talk about China and India

[@doinacampean9132]

Same question for the US elections, isn't it? :)

[@SeanZuljan]

Don Old Frump loves cats

[@SeanZuljan]

What does Mrs Frump get up to Every Day

[@SeanZuljan]

If you want President Frump and secretary of Marjorie then happy dreams America

[@SeanZuljan]

For $50 a month you can criticise Marjorie Taylor Greene and be the only person in the world to make a comment on her you tube website.I did it and You tube cut me off

[@OTISWDRIFTWOOD]

Russification is what happens at the bottom of an outhouse toilet

[@SeanZuljan]

Putin is a great bloke unless you are not Putin.

[@donfleming3534]

Impressive bot machine at work. Shame is due to the impressive interview and conversation that these two have just had. Yevhen's loyalties are clear but his historical prescription for Russia to have given up their nuclear weapons after the Soviet breakup leads me to believe there is something fishy in his pocket. If turning Russia into another Great Britain sounds like a great idea to you, then I suppose it makes sense. But for the electorate in Russia, who have made their will known since the 90's, opening their society up to the "west" has not worked out in the fairy tale fashion that we advertise and , without nukes, we see what happens to nations that take us up on our grand bargain. Let Russia be Russia !!! Having a contrarian in the family makes for a better dinner conversation. Maybe, one day, they will again rise up and begin smashing through borders, taking lands through sheer force. But that ain't what's happening now. If we might take a moment to pause and hold back on our animal instinct to kill before thinking things through, we might be able to hear the actual request that has enervated this whole disaster....That Ukraine not join NATO. ...Is it too much to ask for: that a major bordering country from which you have been invaded from for centuries, NOT become allied with the most powerful military defense pact ever created and who has shown an eagerness to deploy forward bases as soon as any one new nation is enjoined. There was a tolerance for Ukrainian membership in the EU dating from 2014. Though it was never officially granted, perhaps it could be a chip in the peace talks that must eventually happen. Let's bring something to the table besides a tank.

[@ViJuDe-kb7uv]

Russia does not fear NATO attack. It is evident in the fact that Sweden and Finland joined NATO, and that is half of the border that russia and Ukraine has, and there was very little resistance from russia on that. putin knows that NATO is a DEFENCIVE alliance and war in Ukraine was never about NATO. putins main problem with Ukraine is that Ukraine has the potential and the will to become successful prosperous democratic country and that would show to russian people what shitshow of a "goverment" kremlin is. It was evident in 2014 when Ukrainians overthrew president that did not sign the EU agreement, and putin immediately started war in eastern Ukraine.

[@terryhand]

It was Putin who sent tanks into a peaceful country not Ukraine. NATO is a defensive organisation that has never posed a threat to Russia's national integrity. The only threat NATO posed is to Putin's colonial and genocidal ambitions. It is obvious, even to a child, that a cease fire and "peace talks" now is only a break for Russia to re-arm and continue with this war.

[@hififlipper]

Please stop saying "incredible guests". Thank you.

[@18_rabbit]

'cept they ARE and have been for the entire 2.5 years. This channel is literally THE most interesting entity by far, of any source type in any informational realm, let alone international affairs, that i've seen since i was a student in the 1990's in aftermath fo the cold war, in washington DC studying and working and socializing with such ppl.

[@hififlipper]

@@18_rabbitOf course, but I am against shortcuts and the wrong use of wording. Humans can only help themselves, when they make sense and they can only make sense, when they do not say the opposite, just for the fashion of doing so, or trying to be funny. "Incredible" means the opposite of what is being presented. Thank you.

[@PandemoniumMeltDown]

@@hififlipper "Remarkable"?

[@GrahamCStrouse]

@@hififlipperExcept that isn’t what the word means in common usage.

[@hififlipper]

@@GrahamCStrouse "Common sense" is misleading, because common people do like the sensation rather over the more boring truth. I am not a believer in god, but words are meaningful, nothing else can be. I would always press things like that. Sorry to bother you.

[@MunterPunter]

Excellent interview. I learned a lot from this bloke. Cheers Mate!

[@SiliconCurtain]

Great to hear!