Prusa MK4 - Worth The Wait? Unboxing & First Impressions

[@knight1102]

The Nextruder's cycloidal gearbox was scrapped, it uses a planetary system now as shown in the video.

[@ygk3d]

Thanks for the clarification!

[@degreeless_engineering]

Thanks for showing the bottom of the printer! I had no idea they revised the y plate!

[@ygk3d]

No worries! Yes, redesigned frame and Y carriage. Not sure exactly what the advantages are but it looks cool.

[@degreeless_engineering]

@@ygk3d from what i understand, it's cast aluminum and supposed to be more rigid.

[@Joseph-rk7kh]

Been following your channel since the first troodon video. Really like your content, you do a great job of explaining everything in an unbiased and fair way. Hope you stick with the channel, I think it will blow up. Cheers

[@ygk3d]

Thank you so much!! I really appreciate that.

[@daniellee5117]

he's very well spoken and makes zero rants. the engineer's youtuber haha

[@Joseph-rk7kh]

@@daniellee5117 I have been getting really annoyed with several big 3d printing KZbinrs. A lot of them are biased and unfair to brands they don’t like or directly compete with their brand of choice. It’s very obvious what they’re doing and why they are doing it. This guy is a breath of fresh air.

[@u9Nails]

That's some great upgrades on an already fantastic printer. Thanks for the walk through!

[@ianmcleod8898]

I have the MK3, mine was in kit form it's 6 years old now and its a workhorse. As for the MK4 I'll wait for a while. The nozzle levelling part not to keen on. Already I've seen where it pressed into the bed and made an indent. When you said Prusa does rigours testing this machine missed out and it was sent back.

[@christopherenoch4230]

I saw that too on Jessie's... Mine hasn't done that.... Uncle Jesse was also doing some other things that he should not have been doing which could have screwed up the calibration of the machine. In my opinion, if the machine is used in the way it was designed to be used per the owner's manual, you won't see that scratch on the bed.

[@seanmcne]

I thought the screen on it supported touch - maybe I misheard. I believe Thomas had a video where he said it requires an update or something to enable touch but he also said he was extremely tired at the time of filming so maybe he was mistaken

[@calebm1217]

It is a touch screen I believe its just not activated out of the box, I hope they allow us to activate it in the future

[@safargris815]

you heard right, it is a touch screen just not active function yet.

[@Jackets96]

Thanks for the video, very informative! Cant wait for mine to arrive ^^

[@marcoss727]

Great vídeo, honest and clear. What do you think about compare the MK4-X1Carbon- J1 Snapmaker. Good luck.

[@ygk3d]

Thank you! I’d like to do a comparison video on the MK4, MK3 and X1C. I don’t have a J1.

[@calebm1217]

I believe there is a silent mode that you didn't activate, that is what they advertised as quiet mode I presume

[@RandomWorldRandomStuff]

Very good video, keep it like this. I see you have some Babu Labs laying there, you can try to make a comparation video. And also you can try a comparation between MK3S+ and MK4

[@AndrewAHayes]

Why Prusa cant set up international warehousing is beyond me! quite a lot of other manufacturers have this facility, it saves the consumer money and the manufacturer benefits from increased sales and I would wager there are carbon benefits to it also somewhere down the line.

[@drewmiller9036]

I would love to see a US warehouse!

[@JohnOlson]

Printed Solid is owned by Prusa.

[@AndrewAHayes]

@@JohnOlson They charge more than Prusa and are only based in the US although I suppose that is one step closer to an International sales force, they need to allow resellers to operate with their printers but I dont think there is any room in the budget, either that or the fact that they can sell them as they come off the production line as the demand is (or was) so high that it negates the need for resellers.

[@JohnOlson]

@@AndrewAHayes I wish PrintedSolid would be more economical for consumers. But until they can build up enough stock, which means Prusa has enough stock, we're ordering direct. I'd be happy to just get Prusament for the same price but local from US.

[@awilliams1701]

@@AndrewAHayes free shipping on orders over $50. So in many cases PS is actually cheaper than prusa. And hoestly shipping a bunch of printers to PS and then having all the US shipments go through there would probably be cheaper for prusa in the long run.

[@avejst]

Great start Thanks for sharing your expirence with all of us 👍 😀

[@avejst]

The part with measure the temperature in the heat-break i have not seen before,- in my Price range thou

[@markbreidenbaugh6033]

Flow rate has much less to do with extruder power than most people seem to think and what effects it the most is the length of the melt area, no matter how strong your extruder is if the filament is not sufficiently melted you will still get unter extrusion and bad layer adhesion.

[@ygk3d]

Yeah, this is true. I placed emphasis on the wrong variable in my description. Thanks for pointing that out.

[@alanb76]

Some people love to complain, but Prusa has long lines of customers. Their products work, and keep getting better even after you buy them unlike others who make a new model every few months with no upgrade path. They must be doing something right. Nice to see another view of the MK4.

[@MrTartans]

Awesome bed slinger!!!!!🎉

[@DiipsRatsAirsoftPortugal]

i wont buy a Prusa XL only because the waiting time. there are other good printers out there that ship the same week. i will never buy the XL untill they make me wait more than one year.. even if it was more than 2 months

[@AndrewAHayes]

USB is much more durable than SD, as SD was not designed to be inserted and ejected multiple times per function, before I got Octoprint and Klipper I used to fit SD extensions to more accessible places and some of these eventualy failed, but I prefered the extension failing rather than the printers SD slot, no accelerometer is a big mistake IMO!

[@KoenKooi]

Prusa says there is an accelerometer connector on the nextruder, but no word on firmware support or part availability. So for the time being we can pretend it isn’t there.

[@mouhabuntu]

Or maybe in the next mk4 +

[@DoRC]

​@@KoenKooi well they would have to have one on the bed too

[@gerardwiesel559]

Every other unboxing video I've seen the printer runs all the self tests on first power on?

[@ygk3d]

I actually had to film this twice because my camera didn’t record the first time. It did do the self tests on first power up.

[@DoRC]

I'm confused by everybody saying that the BL printers are loud. They're certainly not silent but my P1P really doesn't make that much noise. Sure it does make noise but from what I had heard online I was expecting it to be much much worse than it is

[@ygk3d]

I don't have a P1P personally so I can't comment but my X1Cs are quite loud. It doesn't bother me much because I have a dedicated printing space but they wouldn't be suitable in an apartment. The loudest part is the initial calibration procedure, specifically the resonance compensation.

[@DoRC]

@@ygk3d Yeah maybe it just doesn't bother me cuz mine's out in the garage so I don't have to sit next to it all day.

[@902Boots]

I'm in Canada as well. What shipper? What did they charge duty/fees if you don't mind?

[@ygk3d]

FedEx and $204.

[@902Boots]

@@ygk3d I went with DHL. Not sure which shipper is better?

[@mouhabuntu]

Holy crap!!! So expensive. I think there is another way to make it cheaper. It reminds my old sold mk3s+ Better to go with Bambulab lab p1p updated version

[@902Boots]

@@mouhabuntu nah, Prusa has always made awesome printers and stands behind them for years. Worth the money imo.

[@ottovp]

just murdered my ears with that intro.

[@ygk3d]

My condolences..

[@mouhabuntu]

Honest review and as I do live in Canada, shipping and customs are annoying...

[@NMdesertracer]

How hard is it to change nozzles on the heat block? and would they leak. I have two MK3S & MK3S+ with Revo's which I love! If the screen was a touch screen I might upgrade to the lowest tier.

[@KoenKooi]

The standard, non-v6 compatible nozzles are one piece, like the revo. The special v6 compatible versions do have the leaky interface between heatbreak and nozzle.

[@ThomasS17]

Here's a video of someone changing the nozzle. It's probably a bit quicker once you've done it a few times and are not filming, but not as easy as the Revo. kzbin.info/www/bejne/d4aXoIx9abJlobs

[@NMdesertracer]

@@ThomasS17 i saw that this morning. I guess the universal one where u can use your own nozzle. Ive always hated that v6 hotend would always slowly leak out the top lol

[@alanb76]

the screen is reportedly a touch screen, not yet activated in the firmware

[@christopherenoch4230]

Thanks

[@MichaelThompson77]

I feel as they rushed this printer out, they should of had the input shaping and the finished firmware for installed on the printer when they shipped it out. Not make customers wait for it. Another fail in my mind such as people that have waited forever for their xl. 31 to 32 mins for benchy the mk3s 37 mins

[@ygk3d]

Agreed.

[@dandw1442]

If you want a silent printer get a Sidewinder or Genius. Other than that, I am not convinced with this mk4 and rather wait for Tests of the creality k coming in ~2 months.

[@Terandium]

Awesome video, whats the song name in the beginning?

[@ygk3d]

Thanks! The very beginning song that plays for a few seconds is the one from the Prusa Mk4 launch video. I’m not sure what it’s called. The second second is called Copycat by Far Orange.

[@awilliams1701]

actually it is a touch screen, I believe it's just not turned on yet.

[@ygk3d]

That's like having a car without gas... useless. But at least there is hope that they'll activate touch functionality eventually.

[@thegreatdivide3411]

MK4 or Troodon 2.0? 🤔 Formbot said they will be releasing a Troodon 2.0 Mini (250x250x240mm) soon

[@ygk3d]

Oooh nice. I hadn’t heard that. Both options have their pros and cons. I think the Troodon is better value but will require a bit more tinkering.

[@shanemshort]

This really does feel like an "oh shit" to both the X1 and to some extent the Voron designs. Prusa really stinks of hubris-- they never thought anyone would put a dent in their brand and they had forever to do their next iterative product.

[@othmanalghafri9821]

For $1,099, I'd prefer a Qidi X Max 3 with CoreXY kinematics, not a bed slinger.

[@ygk3d]

That looks like a promising machine. I’ll be reviewing the X Smart 3 on this channel which is the lower tier machine in that lineup.

[@degreeless_engineering]

What makes the X1C so loud?

[@ygk3d]

The fans are loud as are the motors when the move at high speeds.

[@TurdFergusen]

I really dont want to wait til july :(

[@ygk3d]

Is the lead-time that long now? Ouch. I only had to wait a few days but I ordered within the first 20 minutes after launch.

[@TurdFergusen]

@@ygk3d Site said new orders processed in july when I ordered the kit. assembled looks sooner, 6-7 week lead time still though. Ordered first day kit was available too.

[@CBORK27]

did they covered extruder stepper by plastic plate?

[@ygk3d]

I believe the extruded stepper is on the rear now as opposed to the front as on the MK3. It’s not as obvious where it is, so it must be covered by a plastic cover.

[@CBORK27]

@@ygk3d to keep warm 😄

[@bastienx8]

With the greater gear ratio I don't think that the extruder motor will heat as much as on the MK3

[@awilliams1701]

I bought my MK3S+ last year. It was "made for prusa" filament which I found out that it was filament PM. It was TRASH! I hate that filament. And even before I opened the sealed bag, it was tangled on the spool. Many people don't believe me. They say it's impossible. Well.....it's possible because it happened to me. The first 1/4 of the spool was unusable for any decent printing. It's better now (I have maybe 1/2 of it left), but it has both over and under extruded. It was so bad I could feel variance in my fingers. If I can feel it, it's REALLY BAD. But for some reason after the first 1/4 it was fine. Now it under-extrudes. It's like 95% of what I get with other brands.

[@awilliams1701]

on the other hand prusament is freaking amazing filament. It actually feels premium in hand. But is it worth it? I don't know. I hate sunlu. It's way too soft. esun is inbetween. esun works pretty well for me.

[@MaxMichel89]

@@awilliams1701 so it wasnt Prusament ? If you get an original prusaspool you can check the report on that specific roll online (qr code or something on it) In the consumer space no Filament is just for one printer.

[@awilliams1701]

@@MaxMichel89 yeah I own some geniune prusament. What came with the MK3S+ was "made for prusa" and eventually I found out that it was from a brand called filament PM. No QR code. Apparently I'm not the only one that thought it was trash. I've heard a few others complain as well. So when they stopped including it in MK3S+ orders, I'm like....honestly they're doing you a favor. But I also know what a genuine prusament spool looks like. That's definitely prusament. So the MK4 is finally including good filament for a change.

[@MaxMichel89]

@@awilliams1701 I did get my mk3s+ with a prusa spool, but maybe it has Something to do with where you live. So maybe a reseller in america or Else is Putting a spool INSIDE, so the shipping of the printer gets cheaper 1,2kg less per printer could add Up.

[@awilliams1701]

@@MaxMichel89 I got mine direct from prusa. I had to pay customs from prague. When did you get yours? I got mine may of last year.

[@cxvxcbcxn]

Prusa ftw!

[@mkhmkh1266]

Aw man, now you're going to slow down on the Troodon 2.0 stuff while you play with your new toy!

[@ygk3d]

Haha don’t worry, I’ve been working on Troodon content too 😊

[@mkhmkh1266]

@@ygk3d I've got 3 2.0 machines and an LK5Pro to setup on my mint/mainsail/klipper virtualbox. Of course I didn't hardly know what these were a week ago.

[@markbreidenbaugh6033]

Why is it so loud? My ender 3 is so much quieter that this sounds ridiculous.

[@ygk3d]

Not sure. I was surprised too. Might get quieter with silent mode enabled.

[@macht4turbo]

Thanks for the overview. From my point of view the marketed silent operation is just marketing and honestly, i think that is a disgrace. Lie about this and the customer might ask, what else did you overexaggerate?

[@ygk3d]

I believe there is a silent mode you can enable that should make it quieter, but I was surprised to hear how loud it was with default settings. It didn't sound any quieter than my MK3.

[@MrPanaramuh]

I get not wanting to give your answer, but if you have a "Is it worth it?" question in the title, I watch waiting on an answer. Off the content alone I just watch; No. It's not.

[@ygk3d]

Fair enough. I think it's important to draw your own conclusion but I think the majority would say the value is not justified in 2023.

[@MrPanaramuh]

@@ygk3d Definitely not. A $1k bed slinger is just...so much when you can step up $200 and get something like a VZBot with corexy, a 330x330 build volume and much better speeds. Edit: People watch reviews mainly to see reviewers who have hands on a machine to speak their experience. Always a good idea to draw your own opinions though, I agree.

[@ZeckKoa]

Prusa is making improvements super duper slow…not decreasing cost…that is a losing strategy.

[@daniellee5117]

but their sales would say otherwise 😅 as a mk3 user, I'm let down by the mk4 being a bedslinger 😒 shouldn't this come close to a Voron by now...?

[@Unscientifically]

@@daniellee5117 thats their Prusa XL tho

[@daniellee5117]

@@Unscientifically the XL pricing enters 'Prosumer' levels... we've also been waiting for it for a while now.

[@Unscientifically]

@@daniellee5117 the xl is already out and a lot of preorders have been shipped. Imo the kit version (2k) is comparable to a voron. A ldo 2.4 will run you around 1.6k without any mods

[@bastienx8]

Prusa is still an european company, with 70 to 80% of their parts also produced in Europe, so their prices will never be competitive against chinese printers (and they never intended to be competitive)

[@noway8233]

Clompletely redising in a strage way cause its looks the Same

[@donald1792]

Bambu X1C is so much better

[@LordHog]

Too little too late

[@deadlyapollo]

Yawn, what a boring reveal from Prusa, I expected better from them.

[@nickjeffrey8050]

Gotta be a fool to buy this over the bambu 😂

[@RL.1]

$1900 Canadian Loonies for non-core XY, open frame, non-touch screen printer with QR codes everywhere. Yikes. I think Joseph is about to have a hard time, and deservedly so, in my opinion.

[@ygk3d]

That’s a lot of loonies, eh? 😂