Triforce!

[@Alpine01]

He's probably just being deliberately controversial, but I think Lewis is confusing directly imaging a planet, with being able to indirectly detect characteristics of a planet through means such as spectroscopy, photometry and interferometry. Best earth analog so far is Kepler-69c, though we can agree that the margin of error is quite large and it's likely too hot, every year another set of planets are found which get closer and closer to the "goldilocks" zone. I'd say by 2025 we'll have a list of 10 or more high degree of confidence candidates for earth analogs. Then it'll start being a case of which ones are closest in distance. There are telescopes planned which may even be able to directly image them optically in the not too distant future, or use interferometry like they did to get the black hole image.

[@elahem6940]

HEAR HEAR

[@cameronwilsey9334]

He seemed to be confused by the difference between getting data from a planet and actually viewing it

[@TheAcdcninja]

He’s not wrong though. No planet that we’ve discovered thus far is conclusively “earth-like”

[@cascade9584]

This is a good comment. But I have a question for the longer time Triforce listeners: do they read the comments on the KZbin uploads of the podcast? Are we shouting into the void when we leave comments here? Genuinely wondering about this.

[@TheBloodypete]

@@TheAcdcninja Depends what you define as earth like, we've found ones the same size and the right distance from their parent start, so those would be earth-like

[@thekingofcardboard]

I don't get to say this often: but i think Sips would be fairly pleased to hear about vacuum decay.

[@rocketforthree4479]

Sips: *Doesn't want a Super AI* Also Sips: *Wants a Space War*

[@JamesKellyjjk]

Sips is Admiral Adama from Battlestar Galactica.

[@TheRagingbull4136]

Rocket forthree a space war with people. AI doesn't need to be a part of it, nobody wants a skynet situation

[@rocketforthree4479]

@@TheRagingbull4136 Yeah, It does necessarily *need* to have an AI, but its a common theme in Sci-FI movies, Like Star Trek's ship computers and Star Wars' droids.

[@Nathan-pl2cf]

Lewis talking about there being no earth-like planets because "they are only pixels" hurt me physically

[@AN-ii5li]

Last week I commented something about Lewis being so unbelievably ignorant it's astounding...still love the podcast though.

[@tigerstripes7427]

I understand what he meant to say, that no one planet is gonna be as ideal as ours. but hes failing to see the definition of "earth-like" earth-like just means water n oxygen in abundance. thats it. Doesn't mean its habitable either.

[@josephshepherd6968]

According to a quick internet search we HAVE NOT found any planets capable of sustaining human life. WE HAVE found planets that potentially, might be capable of having liquid water if a whole load of variables, which we are not able to assess happen to align in our favour. Therefore ,Lewis is totally correct at this moment in time.

[@AN-ii5li]

@@josephshepherd6968 not necessarily talking about the planet stuff, though he's wrong in saying that we've ground nothing even like earth.

[@mistermister1890]

@Jamie we havent found nothing, so there is nothing to our current knowledge. Can they exist? Possiblely. Can they not exist? Possiblely again. But currently there is none until we find something to change that standard.

[@batvdog6129]

4:26 flax"I'm prepared in other ways" *as he slowly turn to look at his 9mm*

[@Fireburnin21]

Handguns are banned in the UK :P

[@batvdog6129]

@@Fireburnin21 that's what's all the preparation is for. In the US we just have to take a test.

[@gajbooks]

Lewis, Green Goo is literally something that has happened in the past called the Oxygen Crysis. As for grey goo, plants and bacteria have been around for so long that nanomachines are not going to be able to reproduce more efficiently than they are. Grey goo requires energy, much more energy even than life does, making it essentially impossible. A robotic civilization running on fusion power though is another thing entirely.

[@georgehh2574]

_Walk out through the fallout baby, when they drop that bomb... doodoodoo_

[@destroyer45000]

Lewis used to be this big nerd all for the science ffs he has a chemistry degree

[@TheBloodypete]

A chemistry masters even!

[@chiip90]

@@TheBloodypete We went to the same University and did the same course! At a different time, but still!

[@GatobotShow]

I guess Sips is the only one of them who hasnt lost their mind during quarantine?

[@thegoldencat9368]

He just stayed in his garage all day normally, nothing has changed

[@kristincarey2749]

I mean he did start playing fallout 76 so maybe not 😂

[@naomi_moon]

yea what quotia said, he's still doing what he was already doing

[@leoipek8143]

he has his family and a large garden on a pretty island, lewis must be going truly insane though

[@charliecrome207]

Of the three, I feel like Sips has some genuinely interesting insights

[@ricomarez7834]

I agree. Lewis and Pyrion's opinions and philosphies are closer to my own. Some times I just think Sips likes playing devil's advocate, but sometimes he'll give a challenging perspective that I hadn't considered.

[@aiden1780]

I love how Lewis' Earth-like planet ramble began with "It's not like Star Trek and so there aren't going to be all these cool planets to inhabit", and ended it by basically saying "So it should be like Star Trek and we're all the Borg"

[@kieran6417]

No earth like planets... *Kepler 452b has entered the chat*

[@gentlemanvontweed7147]

Masonic propaganda. Next you'll claim that the earth is round.

[@kieran6417]

@@gentlemanvontweed7147 let's not get crazy here

[@gentlemanvontweed7147]

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[@jesse271985]

Can someone please tell Lewis to update his modern astronomy knowledge

[@elliebakonoe4252]

He is correct though, even through other means than he mentioned the error bars are so large we can't claim these planets to be earth like

[@TheBloodypete]

@@elliebakonoe4252 We can, they're the same size and the same distance from their parent star, so they are earth like. Much like how Mars is earth like.

[@elliebakonoe4252]

@@TheBloodypete Lewis was classing earth like as planets so similar to earth that we could inhabit them without making changes which is why he brought up mars. If you simply look at characteristics that they share but don't guarantee we could live there without changes then sure alot of things can be classed as "earth-like" but then that's where Pyrion got confused because they were arguing different things.

[@TheBloodypete]

@@elliebakonoe4252 I'd say lewis got confused as Pyrion was talking about something disserent at first, and as usualy lewis didn't let anyone else speak.

[@RufusOmega]

@@TheBloodypete Mars is only half the size of Earth.

[@thatoneranger1055]

I know what this is coming from....sips is sitting in his garage playing fallout,that's were this is coming from.

[@nobelprizelostmojo6994]

He plays it quite alot judging by most of the previous podcasts eh haha

[@chiip90]

Fun fact - the rationing system after WW2 resulted in an average increase in height of nearly 2 inches in men because they were actually eating better than they were before the war.

[@zxG777]

Lewis: "They occasionally say something weird" LOL

[@capitanoseacat5146]

Gotta love Pyrion's awful worldview

[@DarkMassFabrikator]

Earth like planet means - it is made of rock and it has atmosphere. Mars is earth like, Venus is earth like - on all planets except earth you will die pretty much instantly unless you are a bioengineered or cyborg.

[@Defuse__]

Love you guys! Keeping me sane through this x

[@sanderhoefsloot6852]

As an astronomer I can say that ‘stargazing’ has developed to seeing more than a single pixel nowadays. The journey to other planets is daunting though

[@yurachunt3179]

our best bet is solar sails or fusion power (or mach's principle if we can figure that buggery out) right? or just a generation ship

[@FasAntick]

sips ''Just needed more living space'' :')

[@RufusOmega]

Sips asking if it would hurt to be turned into goo by nano-machines made me laugh. I would imagine it's about the most painful thing a human could experience and would not be quick.

[@jesse271985]

In reality, nanomachines would immediately learn to sedate humans before breaking them down, as eliminating resistance and struggle would make the process more efficient.

[@RufusOmega]

@@jesse271985 Why would they do that? It makes no sense. It wouldn't matter the slightest bit to rogue nano machines how much someone struggled while they are tearing the body to pieces cell by cell. What are you going to do, wipe them off? Run away and hide? The grey goo theory is that the nanos would convert everything to copies of themselves; there's no stopping it and they aren't in any hurry so why bother to sedate people?

[@PumpkinMelon]

i love that no one laughed at lewis' "she'll give me that look" joke right at the end

[@dkpsyhog]

Sips' "If aliens turned up, I'd be like 'you know, the people who are charge down here don't know how to deal with this situation'" is literally the Kievan Rus being invaded by vikings actually

[@lin90210]

Thanks for cracking me up laying as I work from home :D

[@rakuu9843]

Do not go quietly into that good night, Pyrion.

[@vadankhan4823]

35:16 what Lewis doesn't understand that I think that effect is very strong when listening to him

[@Tom_-]

Flip yeah. My hour long pupper walks are made perfect by such audio delights.

[@claytoncutrer1637]

First thing gracing my ears this lovely morning!

[@hermatic1]

Woot woot another episode of this greatness. Cheers for another episode lads. Regards.

[@DanMuggeo]

OMG the Sips wife being a bad ass fucking killed me. Very relatable.

[@Blitzkrieger17]

"All this stuff takes so long to do..." In less than 100 years we went from kittyhawk to multistage rockets and satelites...

[@JohnReiher]

We haven't found a world "like Earth" yet. We've found worlds that might have environments that could potentially be in right temperature range, but most are either bigger or smaller than Earth.

[@TheAcdcninja]

John Reiher yeah. Lewis’ key point was 100% right and everyone in the comments is missing that. Just because the technical term “earth-like” might include basically any rocky planet in the habitable zone, does not mean we have any evidence of a planet that would be even remotely similar to earth in a way that would actually matter to humans. I think in the list of thousands of planets we’ve found, at this point there’s only 1 that is in the habitable zone of a sun like star, which is only a bit bigger than earth. (Might have surface gravity of about 1.6G I think) and we don’t really know if it actually has water or much of an atmosphere.

[@RufusOmega]

@@TheAcdcninja There's one they found (forget what it's called now, it was years ago I read about it) that has a high probability of having the right atmosphere and is the right distance from its' sun, but is 10 times the size of Earth and so would have 10 times the gravity of Earth. So yeah, not really habitable by humans.

[@Crazyveiwingvirus]

We can see large terrestrial planets at the moment. So large planets that may be similar to Earth. The James Webb telescope is projected to be able to see Earth sized planets if I’ve heard correctly.

[@rishikatti3953]

Lewis please, Its astronomy GCSE knowledge please just look it up. Three things are needed for life - Energy in the form of heat (Generated by tidal forces, volcanic activity or from an external source like a star.), Carbon which is excellent at building organic compounds and Water which is a good solvent and acts a transport for many nutrients. First - Emission Spectra takes the wavelength of different lights and compares that to the spectra emitted from the observed planet's atmosphere. I'm not sure on the specifics so just look it up but I do know you learn this in GCSE Chemistry, Physics and Astronomy. However, this technique may not be usable due to the resolution of our current telescopes as Lewis was saying. This can be used to find if a planet has any water or carbon on it to satisfy two criteria of the three needed for life. However, we can look at the positioning of the planet in its solar system as if we know the type of star it orbits and the position of the planet around the star we can put together a "story" of the planets atmospheric composition. We can find the relative position of the observed planet to its parent star through a number of ways - some we don't even need radio telescopes for. The next methods can aid in finding if liquid water can exist on a planet and if the planet is within the habitable zone of its star. Firstly, Astrometry - As massive exoplanets orbit their parent star, their combined gravitational pull can cause the star to move or "wobble" slightly so the star and massive exoplanet orbit around a common centre of gravity; by precisely measuring these small wobbles, the position and size of the exoplanet can be estimated. Furthermore, we can measure these wobbles using radial velocity which is measuring the wavelength of light emitted from the star and, by applying our knowledge of Doppler shift, we can measure if thee star is moving away from us or towards us as it wobbles when the wavelength is stretched or squashed as its wobbling. This has proved to be the most effective method of finding exoplanets so far. Secondly, Transit methods - this is done by measuring the light levels emitted from the star. As an exoplanet passes in front of a star, the mean light level of the star drops slightly as the exoplanet blocks a portion of the star. Over a long period of time, we can measure when these drops in light level occur and how severe they are. From this, we can estimate the size of the exoplanet and the orbital period. This along with the size and type of star the planet is orbiting can be used to estimate the position of the planet from the star to see if it is in the habitable zone. Lastly, we have the Drake equation - The Drake equation is a formula used to estimate the likelihood that intelligent life may exist in our Galaxy. This is a bit more far removed from my original point of habitable planets but is still relevant. Although the equation is an equation to estimate that we cannot test as we don't have a number of intelligent life forms in our galaxy, it's the closest thing we have to a mathematical representation of habitual life in our galaxy and by extension, habitable planets. I spent way too long writing this comment and I really hope you read it. Hope it wasn't too much of a bore :)

[@TheAcdcninja]

Rishi Katti he knows all that shit. His point was none of the confirmed planets we know of yet are actually earth 2.0 There’s a handful that come close from what we can guess about them, but it’s pure speculation as to wether they actually have water on their surfaces. The James Webb telescope MIGHT give us a clearer idea of what some of these candidates are made of in the next decade, but for the time being, Lewis is right. We have no solid proof that there are any planets that resemble earth in more than just being a rock in the habitable zone

[@tigerstripes7427]

I understand what Lewis was trying to say with the earth-like planets debate. But he clearly failed to understand what "earth-like" means. it basically just means there's an abundance of water/oxygen. That's about it really (yes i'm omitting a lot of other criteria). "earth-like" just means we have a slightly better hope that the planet might be somewhat/somehow habitable, or atleast less of a living hell than say Mercury. It's nowhere near a comparison to earth. Like you're not wrong, but dude, as someone who cares about science and the future of our species too, try to look deeper into the terminology and syntax scientists use. You weren't wrong, just being a dick about semantics. loved the episode! been watching forever

[@codycampbelll8575]

yeah man i agree they have found planets far stranger/complex than earth and some far more simple.if anyone is interested do google search there is some cool stuff out there! for example they have found a world that is 70% water instead of the thin layers of ocean on our rocky crust the water on that planet will go all the way down till the pressure turns it into hot solid ice!

[@TheAcdcninja]

No but he’s right. We only have “candidates” for earth like. And pretty much all of them are definitely unlike earth in one key way. We are yet to find anything that is definitely close to being earth like. We’ve found one about the right size and mass but it’s super close to its small red star and therefore probably tidally locked. We’ve also found a few that seem at first to be fairly earth like but they also happen to be about 10 times more massive. And everything we know about these planets is basically just speculation. We still can’t do proper spectroscopy on their atmospheres. That tech is coming but it’s still not something we can do reliably yet. Lewis is right in saying that every “earth like” planet that has been announced so far differs from earth in at least one key way, and that’s ASSUMING that they have a favourable atmosphere which we can only guess for the time being

[@TheBloodypete]

Thats not even what it means, it means correct size and correct distance from its parent star!

[@barteke22]

Earth-like can mean anything really. Same term can have a completely different definition depending on the field. Lewis wasn't referring to any of those 'scientific' definitions, because he's unlikely to even know them (they're outside his field). He even clearly said multiple times that by Earth-like he means a planet that can support human life, without evolution/terraforming. Like who even said that he means a scientific syntax, Earth-like is a regular word. Not saying he was right about how we determine such stuff, but people clearly don't understand what he meant...

[@MalkhodrKhady]

Can someone give me the study that Lewis was talking about how humanity will be destroyed, it sounds really interesting.

[@justinpitonzo8988]

If someone would link the stream that lewis left on, I would be ever so grateful

[@darrenparis8314]

To those arguing that there are livable Earth-like planets: do not forget the extreme symbioses with other organisms which are so crucial for our healthy and happy existence.

[@Flamesofame]

I have no mouth and I must scream. Is a beautiful tale of artificial intelligence.

[@quinnbuffet3825]

17:16 Lewis said a naughty word

[@GreedyJoeKitch]

WTF did I just listen too. Ramblings of mad men.

[@HometownUnicorn]

lewis the science boffin lol.

[@qliphalpuzzle5453]

Can’t wait for the next apocalypse The Eclipse

[@sarahlewis7859]

I would recommend listening to this episode and then episode 36 "This stupid planet" ^~^

[@HighConCannibal]

If we were capable of all working together on an AI, we wouldnt need an AI in the first place.

[@gerhard977]

The AI question really shows the difference btw USA and europe

[@Smithlord]

Fuck yeah! Lewis for King of Vegans, we are not hated on enough yet!

[@andrewgibbs8226]

According to a Harvard and Smithsonian study there are likely around 40 billion earth sized planets in the milky way. Yes the great majority may not be like earth, but with those sort of numbers it becomes a percentage game... en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Earth_analog

[@nicolasdiaz1542]

It seems pyrion wants Thunderhead from the Scythe Elegy

[@elliottsaucedo442]

Smoking is extremely addictive.it ain’t that easy to just stop if or if not they think it’s a problem

[@nikkouhanshabutsuno1028]

What new Apocolypse? This is the first time I've heard of one of those. It's the apocalypse that's been the standard. :P

[@lewismclaren3430]

The saviour machine

[@TheZaius]

Kids aren't inherently selfish. Kids are blank slates. If they know how to be selfless and they choose not to be, then they're being selfish. But typical children, with no big neurological issues, would have to learn either kind of behavior.

[@caityreads8070]

This. Kids (of most neurotypes) have a functioning sense of empathy, they just don't necessarily know how to behave in a way that will be beneficial to those around them.

[@TheZaius]

@@XenonSCRB I don't understand why you're comparing a chimpanzee to a human or a baby crying for food and warmth to a person choosing to disregard others and only be concerned about themselves.

[@caityreads8070]

@@XenonSCRB No one is saying that babies don't have any instincts whatsoever, but calling a baby's instinct to cry for assistance 'nothing but selfish' is pretty ridiculous.

[@TheZaius]

@@XenonSCRB However close chimps are (and bonobos, actually), they're still not humans. There's about an 8 million year difference between humans and chimps/bonobos. There's only about a 2 million year difference between bonobos and chimps, so they're closer to each other than they are to us. Yet they behave very differently from each other. Why? Because of influences in the environment and learned behavior. They have their own instincts that are different from humans. Human instincts are primarily to look at other humans and to learn from them. That's why you have infants picking up simple sign language in their first year. Bonobos and chimps have that as well but to a lesser degree. Either way, it's just bad science to be comparing ourselves to animals in a neurological development level. Take it from someone who has studied and practiced psychology and behavior analysis for over 10 years.

[@teucer_]

I was kinda hoping Lewis had the exact same dream as Pyrion

[@gnarwhale]

Hell yeah

[@miamorris6780]

This podcast is the only thing that keeps me going tbh

[@choccymilk8845]

The last part of this URL is a good meme Owo

[@RCGamex]

You’d probably need a collective of AI that can coordinate together.

[@notmattwalsh]

did they misspell apocalypse twice

[@Zuurkool1]

4 times, also twice on the spotify version.

[@DougGonzo]

Sips 2020

[@LucasWolthuis-j1d]

lewis pisses me off so much in this episode, if we can get a semi-clear picture of a black hole in ANOTHER GALAXY, we can detect characteristics of planets that are relatively nearby in our own >.>

[@Bird0fPrey]

Lewis pixel argument is wrong. We need Neil deGrasse Tyson on the next triforce podcast to school Lewis

[@SylverShadowWolve]

What pyrion is saying is true and actually if you look at wolves, the biggest baddest muscliest wolf is actually the beta. Its the betas job to protect the alpha.

[@nobelprizelostmojo6994]

Anyone could be an Alpha though right, it's not black and white

[@s.h.harrison245]

When Sips said "Armageddon... I don't wanna miss a thing," just monotone... I did in fact lol.

[@kolyaisterabadi4277]

How many times are they gonna mention getting killed by the deathstar haha

[@Warrandpeace]

Idk sips last time i checked i had a warp drive

[@rachelhough9193]

Lewis is right, there's no way to determine how habitable a planet is from so far away. We can only guess that there's a high chance that a planet is water + oxygen rich. But even IF that's the case, there's still a million other variables to take into consideration. What if the air is full of man-eating bacteria!? What if it's swarming with face-eating flies?? What if the rocks want to eat us?!?! Basically, its impossible to guess who wants to eat us on an alien planet. edit: also it could be really cold :(((

[@nobelprizelostmojo6994]

Good point actually, that's something people don't tend to consider, we think about whether or not we can breathe etc, no consideration of other worldly tigers, giant spiders, massive krakens that walk on land.

[@TheAcdcninja]

Yeah everyone in the comments thinks he’s wrong because a few sensationalist headlines over the last few years have lauded new planetary discoveries as if we knew exactly what was going on. Reality is, as yet, we only have evidence that there are some vaguely earth sized rocks (some are still 10x bigger) in their respective stars habitable zones. That’s all we know for sure at this point. Pyrion was acting like we knew for sure that these planets were definitely rocking a human friendly atmosphere and liquid water

[@Rurumeto]

Last time I was this early they were doing bodega readings

[@Mynestrone]

I think if some amazing leap happens then the people who dismissed it should be excluded for a couple years, just so theres stake in making the definitive statement that it wont happen

[@gregryan6120]

great to hear that people are not driving and so the environment is getting better however it isn't really a decision that alot of people can make. great news and i'd be all for if my work place let me work from home most of the time or if the uk government pulled forward the whole all electric cars by x year but they probably wont. if my work demands i be there then i'll be driving because i have little to not other option.

[@teucer_]

27:50-28:50 why does Sips sound drunk

[@jebbo-c1l]

number 9, burger king foot pandemic

[@wilsonwoman3]

I find it highly ironic the idea of two men so cowardly they would rather die than take a chance on living through an apocalypse, making fun of those with enough balls to try to survive one.

[@FuZs]

Uhoh. Lewis sounds like a flat other earther.

[@hollosteph]

That typo though. Oof.

[@michaelhood6236]

Might be my favourite one. Loved it

[@bulletprooftomato3766]

lol I fucking wish they would stop interrupting each other, it's driving me crazy no one finishes their point basically. lol still a good listen

[@c5on]

Yeah that wolf researcher who find out the alpha term. He tried to correct his mistake about alpha term, but it was too late. Alpha wolf is myth in reality.

[@strawny7194]

I agree with Flax's opinion on alpha males, however I strongly disagree with his idea that all wars have been fought over a lack of resources. I believe the vast majority of wars throughout history have been fought over various ideological or religious reasons, rather than a blatant lack of resources. If a future world war were to break out it would most likely be caused by ideological differences as opposed to limited resources.

[@charlesboozell2363]

mate, if we were capable of the sort of necessary collaboration needed to make an AI with some sort of objectively correct moral compass and resource managing skills necessary for some sort of utopia, then we wouldn't need an AI. We have this fantasy of AI that comes from a innate desire for authority superior to our own.

[@cascade9584]

Yeah lewis is wrong about the earth like planet stuff but it doesn't matter because getting to any planet outside of our own solar system is as of right now literally impossible. (by getting to i mean bringing humans to)

[@propenguinLT]

Pyrions idea of a supersmart ai making all the worlds decisions is the most horriffically shit idea ive ever heard

[@JWTiberius]

Guys, just because you saw a reddit headline 6 years ago claiming we found another earth, doesn't mean it's true. I know why you think we did, but lewis is actually pretty correct here.

[@TheAcdcninja]

Joe lmao yeah everyone acting like he’s wrong is pissing me off... Lewis is right that we at best have a few similarly sized rocks in their respective habitable zones. But we don’t actually know for sure what they’re made of yet. James Webb might help with that

[@40johnson87]

I would fully support a full on war to deal with climate change. Not yet but in the future if countries aren't doing what they need to do to save the climate, i would fight for that

[@stinkysquid6533]

"Elon Musk is an alpha male" is an interesting POV

[@henryjohnson-ville3834]

I mean he could get WAY more girls than we can and he makes our yearly income in a day so I guess alpha male.

[@tylerjirkovsky482]

I like how there like "fuck i hate lockdown i just whant it to end" Then Borris Johnsen is like "We are in the process of trying to lift lockdown and restart the economy" And their just like "Fuck you Borris"

[@_e8a]

it's spelled 'Apocalypse' @triforce fix the title

[@TheNoodleGod9001]

I think the thing with AI morality is that, while it's true that you could have AI that does unethical or dangerous things... humans also do unethical and dangerous things all the time. If you 'socialise' an AI to pick up morality from humans, how do we know we're telling them the 'right' morality? How do we know that the people the AI is learning from aren't cunts? You don't want the robot to turn out super racist because humans are racist.

[@iamzid]

you don't think socializing an all powerful AI through contact with humans on the internet is a good idea?

[@henryjohnson-ville3834]

9/16/24

[@EiriUesugiKun]

Elon Musk? An alpha male? Come on! :D

[@konker420]

Remember stereotypes are bad.

[@SkillZgetKillZ]

Now I understand the sentiment that humans are the greatest/only that to a Super AI, but why bother. We are also the best/only ally. Seriously why wouldn't an AI put chances of self survival higher out of not making an enemy rather than attempt to exterminate the possible threat That is if the AI determines that it should continue to exist... TL:DR if AI isn't suicidal it probably wouldn't declare humans the enemy... at least not publicly Edit: ultimately an AI would probably be indifferent to humans why not just leave us alone and keep to it's own corner of the planet... also if we code (shomehow) emotions into this AI then yes it can become evil and want to kill us all so, no Flax you idiot we would not want to teach it empathy and other emotions

[@lucasskovgaard3526]

Simply because we are no 'threat' to a super intelligent AI

[@gajbooks]

Considering how stupid we see ourselves in the grand scheme of things, but how hard it is to get anywhere even close to the level of a dumb animal in intelligence, an AI even twice as smart as the average person likely would not be that smart compared to all of humanity, and it certainly wouldn't have the knowledge or capacity to singlehandedly take over the world. An AI 10x smarter, definitely something to worry about, but it's very unlikely to spontaneously appear.

[@TerraZetzz]

Lewis' perspective of the future is dystopian. Personally, I believe we can achieve a future similar to Star Trek. I don't believe it's impossible for us to create anti-gravity and FTL travel. Anti-gravity is the key to FTL because the effects of FTL won't be felt if the ship has its own artificial gravity. Artificial gravity is also the key to living on other planets that don't have Earth's gravity. Creating artificial gravity is the key to humanity's evolution. Also, once we set up on other planets, we can work on creating warp gates/teleportation to get supplies there instantly (not sure if this is possible so in the meantime we should stick to nearby planets and solar systems). If anyone thinks artificial gravity is impossible, just look up Salvatore Pais. The technical term for anti-gravity/artificial gravity is inertial mass modification.

[@alloello913]

What the fuck is Lewis talking about there are hundreds of Earth like planets

[@thaddeusbeadle6546]

The Hubble can image stars across the galaxy in very high resolution. Lewis never knows what he's talking about. There's a reason he was a failure as a chemist.

[@vitalik38815]

Has Lewis never fucking heard of exo planets? This episode was so painful to listen to

[@mrman7748]

#bringbackyogpod

[@caityreads8070]

Flax has done the best piece of prep you possibly can to help humanity survive disaster- procreated, and from the stories he tells about them his kids seem pretty sharp

[@Phil_AKA_ThundyUK]

So misinformed about astronomy it's funny. None of them are right! haha :D

[@TheAcdcninja]

phooogle Lewis’ sentiment is right. We don’t currently have conclusive proof of a proper earth analogue. A few rocks (some which are way bigger than earth) in the habitable zone is all that we can confidently say we’ve found. We don’t know for sure yet if they have water or the right atmospheres

[@Phil_AKA_ThundyUK]

@@TheAcdcninja About that he is correct but for totally the wrong reasons. The lack of current knowledge about atmospheric observation, telescope interferometry capabilities make a lot of what he says is impossible actually possible. Not to mention the current range of super large GB telescopes and next gen space telescopes coming on line such as James Webb. I was just being cheeky really, but there's a lot of disinformation in the podcast which I hope people don't take too seriously. We're way better at this than he thinks :)

[@TheAcdcninja]

phooogle I think he’s actually better informed than you think. He’s just a bit bumbly. He started to explain how we detect and study exoplanets and then realised the others don’t give a shit and trailed off and they talked about something else

[@tree427]

apocalypse*