TERROR FROM THE DEEP [2] - Lewis & Ben Save The World - 8th February 2017

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[@malcolmmontroy4523]

That chart is epic, not because of what it states, but because you have a viewer who is so involved and clearly enjoys these streams enough to do what they can to be a part of it. Much respect

[@UhRedneckBricksmith]

Couldn't be better said.

[@sol2544]

Lewis, Ben, here is how reaction stat works: It's the *percentage of time units* remaining *multiplied by* reaction = *Your current reaction*. so if you have 50/200 time units and 100 reaction, your reaction will be 25 (although it won't show) this all applies to aliens, and whoever had more reactions gets gauranteed not shot at/gets to shoot

[@sol2544]

also, someone will keep on reaction shooting for eternity either until they have no more ammo, their reaction is lower than the other guy (from losing TUs) or they don't have enough TUs left to shoot

[@clairetellkamp6253]

"I once got a swarming mission with 38 aliens before..." "You're gonna need a lot of guys, but I have seen people make some incredible plays before...." Fast Forward to the X-Com Files playthrough when Ben takes on 72 enemies with just 8 soldiers and fucking power-moves it to the finish with the last remaining guy.

[@kutchinka4062]

lewis and ben, your anonimous soldier is shesz. once again saving the game.

[@BlueSkyBringsTears]

Once a week is not enough for this brilliance.

[@Zappygunshot]

I love these streams, mainly because how clearly you can tell how much Lew Lew and Ben are enjoying themselves. When you as streamer/KZbinr are having fun, your audience will do, too.

[@mehiskortel6435]

3:23

[@mmmhorsesteaks]

cheers m8

[@mehiskortel6435]

Always :D

[@Baleur]

"IM NO GOOD AT STAYIN STRAIGHT!" What a way to start the stream.

[@mehiskortel6435]

xd i wanted to keep that in there xd

[@bozzutoman]

Ben's "strategy" of moving everybody into bunches, standing in open ground, is soooo frustrating. No wonder their teams get decimated every mission.

[@fatherofwar1203]

2:34:30 "Can he get it that deep into there?" *"I'm no good at stayin' straight"* Fucking perfect timing xD

[@racerkenny7997]

Oh yeah! Been waiting for this. Thanks for playing TFTD again, simply the best stream on the channel.

[@zacharygoodman2384]

Have you BEN waiting for this :)

[@Peto111222]

Kappa

[@elliotkouame3849]

Captainbob clearly hadn't been listening to his commanders' orders and thought: "I'll just take out everything in sight, that'll satisfy them"

[@h1r086]

Lieu is french for area and tenant for holder/holding, and lieutenants at a time were responsible for holding battle lines allocated to them or taking the place of the superior when they were needed elsewhere. Lef was "old french" in written form for "lew" sound and since their Fs were pronounced as Ws.. anyone who wasn't familiar with that quirk would've pronounced the F the way logical to them.

[@Rincewindl]

I love the spreadsheet, I want to see more of it, it's like they have a analytics's expert on the squad.

[@ZGryphon]

"Don't break the strategy now!" yells Lewis angrily, in reference to a strategy that has spent the previous three turns completely not working against the second coming of Iron Chest McAsshole. Ah, the Wednesday stream...

[@BernddasBrotB7]

2:42:00 *Several grenades have been launched into a shed in a scrapyard* Group Captain Gilmoore: Nothing even remotely human could have survived that. Doctor: That's my point Group Captain, it isn't even remotely human! Group Captain Gilmoore: What is it then? Little green men? Doctor: No, little green blobs in bonded polycarbide armour. -Remembrance of the Daleks

[@Baleur]

2:49:30 it has already been invented a decade ago, strapping electrodes to your head and using the variations in the magnetic field to judge wether or not a person is thinking "UP, DOWN" etc, to then match said EM pattern in the computer with a command to move the mouse down or up. More accurate and usable in modern days, but still not as quick and flawless as is required for "real" applications for everyday use or gaming. But one awesome thing somewhat related is the thing that tracks your eyes, so you just look at something in a strategy game and it'll pan the camera and zoom in there without any other input. Awesome stuff

[@TranscenGopher]

Baleur Nah. If I stare at the corner f the screen it does not mean I want to move camera that direction. While on the surface this does sound awesome, so did the Kinect, and we all know how little of a gimmick it actually turned out to be. Thought controls are probably the same, unless they invent the whole new command set, which in turn would require great deal of cognition discipline.

[@MrSeagallo]

Oh thank god, it's finally here!

[@BurningFyre]

"This strat is boring, you can't just stay in the skyranger" me: "BUT YOURE SAFE IN THERE!"

[@SeekerLancer]

Yeah, Terror from the Deep is bullshit so you have to out-bullshit it with patience to win.

[@sol2544]

I had a guy who sucked. he sucked really bad, so I always put him at front. he never died, and over time, became literally my best soldier, with 115 firing accuracy, 65 hp, and so on. don't underestimate those guys, they rank up fast

[@jmjedi923]

they had that too, in yorkshire farmer in the final mod pack

[@slapbaker]

I hardly ever comment, but my god, nothing fills my nostalfia tear holes like Lewis and Ben's blundering through terror from the Deep. Stay calm, chump squad and carry on.

[@pedrorodrigues4633]

I know this is old, but for anyone watching this .... at 26:43 imagine using a scanner and seeing where they are before even leaving especially as aliens move when you end your turn you can literally see in a 10tile radius

[@Minesniper07]

Sh5s, the overwatching hero!

[@thod8820]

Playing The Ur-Quan Masters and open xcom in a window to the side while watching this over the weekend it the best.

[@azai247]

IMO you know you are doing a night terror mission right when half of the map is on fire, and building are missing walls.

[@Myan_]

the stream starts at 3:22

[@rat4992]

2:35:38 is the best moment. Sh4s is a true hero

[@Adam-lt4fx]

I really love ben, and him and Lewis go so well together

[@lunablossom]

sh5s, the unamed supersoldier

[@arirahikkala]

Their tactics are fine, they just don't know The Solution: Sonic pulsers. You can reliably research them for your first terror mission, they're in plentiful supply, they're powerful, and because your human weapons are so puny, you actually need them (unlike in X-Com where rifles and laser pistols are just fine for fighting floaters). Your first terror mission's first turn should be spent waiting in the Triton priming grenades and letting the aliens get distracted, the second turn should be total explosive carnage.

[@thedillybot]

The knock notification @4:30 gets me every time.

[@smilezor]

XCOM with Lewis and Ben - "No-one ever gets injured"

[@Mason_Blondeau]

I see what you did there.

[@garbageating]

Spoop'd me real good, door knocking... 4:30

[@iamFulky]

garbageating I know you made this comment years ago, but it messed me up as well. I thought someone was knocking at me from inside a solid wall.

[@imakegames770]

Almost forgot to leave a like! Anyways, thanks for playing the old XCOM games. Some more apocalypse would be great!

[@wrathisme4693]

*1:43:20** Fucking funniest thing I've ever seen. I literally just burst out laughing the second I saw were it landed.*

[@Sky_Shas]

I assume that one person upgraded from a commander *to* a captain, they seem to be using naval ranks.

[@tylerbrown1067]

31:37 Three shots, three hits. lmao

[@ch0arrim]

Such an awesome stream! Just love the xcom plays!

[@amperzand9162]

Holy shit, Crete. That's a situation where you have the island nuked.

[@ultimatetoa]

Its so hard to get into the chump squad now unfortunately, donated like half way through and was one of the last donations read :'(

[@chrisstraley2002]

The fucking wall to wall landing sites on Crete made ME shit my pants, if I ever saw that in a game I'd just bitch out and start anew... The Aliens won and beat me at that point.

[@nurijasonic]

anyone see that recording glitch? 2:18:45

[@thod8820]

It seems to happen throughout the entire thing. There is a reason they're are moving from Yogstowers :P

[@nurijasonic]

PaulThesheep 101 hmm I only saw it once but who knows

[@infinitii2]

where is the black women asian guy in this episode?

[@Zamandu]

Andrew Smith some of the soldiers models are of women and non-whites

[@Dream146]

the theory Ben is referring to is the broken window theory. it's actually pretty hotly debated how true it is. it was a notion that was most famously used as a justification for New Yorks zero tolerance policy towards Street art.

[@SandroSegadora]

2:34:00 That knock on the door scared the shit out of me.

[@PHANTOMCOWGIRL]

2:49:34 That's all well and good, and would help us youtube watchers, but I still cant wait for the Amusphere.

[@linlar10]

you'll be amazed with the fluctlight stuff which is introduced later on

[@shanadir]

don't worry about being sexist or racist lewis. just relistening to the early yogpods, there's plenty of not-so-PC things you say there:p

[@tangibleIridescence]

Boiz appear 3:22 They finish da tactics discussion to end the ayys 9:03

[@tangibleIridescence]

Don't even have notifications on ~~~SWAG~~~

[@Normandy-e8i]

fuku

[@alucardromeo]

lol they're literally using an excel sheet. Amazing!

[@LokisAmazingGaming]

Captain Biro was the guy who submitted the spreadsheet

[@cleary1492]

POOR BEN!!! HAPPY BIRTHDAY FOR THE 2nd

[@MrBollox79]

stay in the fuckin' landing craft for a few turns... and use the third guy to the right to open it, but not walk out? Let them come to you! P.S. love these streams hahaha!!!

[@GoblinMinutiae]

Start: 3:27

[@kistuszek]

Im a bit confused. (13:24) They just found two guys with blaster launchers... and proceeds to bunch up half his troops. WCGW?!

[@BobChevy73]

Well.... 3 to 1 kill ratio. Pretty good for a TFTD chump. RIP

[@lostfan10000]

31:39 I fired. I hit something, but it wasn't what I was aiming for. So I guess I missed...

[@cooperkeating2814]

But still got a kill...

[@isectoid9454]

I fired again. I missed. I gave up, went home to grab a Popsicle from the freezer. I missed. I got the lettuce. I tried to put it back, I missed.

[@Jamatarecu1]

I hope someday in the future you will do more heroes of might and magic

[@Baleur]

Haha they're annoyed about "Leftenant" instead of "Liutenant", "its not spelled that way!" But they keep saying "Kerrnel", despite "Colonel" not being spelled that way either xD The English language is dumb AF.

[@pi321789]

Dose anyone know what the song at the end of the stream is called?

[@braxious]

the spelling is french IIRC so it s lefttenant when you say the word

[@jabber9594]

What is the music that plays at the outro? 3:08:10

[@mozzy207]

Awh I have the same birthday as Ben, sweet!

[@BrazenSolar]

Rewatching in 2022.... Still so confused why they don't use the skyranger as much as they can. I guess it's boring. It makes me mad enough I want to play this game myself and do it better. But I won't because I'll do worse and feel bad. Love the streams

[@rat4992]

2:35:39 instantly proved wrong

[@Noobazzah]

Long War is just tedious ball busting with even crazier RNG. Basically forces you to "game" the game itself instead of playing strategically.

[@JBAIMARK3]

Cool now build some outposts and transition them to mass psy-academies and factories. They really help with later casualty rates from harder missions. Consider playing battle-brothers next maybe, on harder difficulties you get the xcom chump burnrate, and soon there'll be a massive update.

[@bhunter3k]

1:22:56, You know that he's talking about Duncan

[@derfliv206]

obviously

[@muldoone6920]

They legit read tips and advice, then go "Hmm, actually no."

[@themechannel5546]

Can anyone help me out with that killer outro music? Shazam doesn't get it....

[@tarjinder7]

the whole point of responding to a port attack is to save the people..........ah screw it there on there on own if any one needs me i'll be in the flying sub eating a sandwhich

[@ethanwhitmore1081]

Who knows the song that plays at the end?

[@acezar2644]

oh yeah!

[@sunshade9731]

It got my finnish last name in the name randomiser! What are the odds. :D Torille!

[@strategystuff5080]

Electro flares are 60 bucks, not 6000 not 60,000. 60! why not buy like 30, to have in the sky ranger minimum?

[@slotzoffuntrue]

Filbert the gay wizard

[@MrSuicidalMinecraft]

44:24 "Where's the black woman asian guy" - Lewis 2017

[@charlieholdsworth6086]

YES BOIZZZZZ!!

[@mehiskortel6435]

TERROR FROM THE DEEP!!!

[@mehiskortel6435]

first? xd?

[@wrathisme4693]

What the fuck is the song at the end?

[@karakzorn3865]

I now what a long war Stream series

[@JoJoRetroGamerMudkip]

if about yogscast member you can add in kim and hannan

[@killerFreak99]

OH YES!

[@hobnobrev]

I love that they are still complaining about their soldiers not autofiring on overwatch. Soldiers on TFTD can ONLY fire on overwatch IF: a) reactions are high enough b YOU HAVE LEFT ENOUGH TIME UNITS TO DO SO! Which is essentially what is not being done, they use up all the time units moving or firing, and then moan when these soldiers have an alien to the face and can do nothing about it. (sighs)

[@icoborg]

and they don't use grenades....i always had at least 3-4 sonic pulsars for each seaman...and send tanks to spot the enemy.

[@xhornox]

i've been wanting to rewatch this last playtrough but i can't find the part/episode that comes before this one. has it been taken down or am i just dumb?

[@xhornox]

never mind i'm just dumb, i thought the stream before this one was just pirate x-com

[@Alba_Longa]

I have the same birthday as Ben! No one gave a shit about mine either :(

[@LIETUVIS10STUDIO1]

Hello, commander.

[@alejandroreyes9574]

Wow. This game seems brutal. Even if they are fucking up and having bad strategy the one shot kills seem like shit

[@Nadz203]

KZbin buskers XD So basically HatFilms in 6 months :D

[@rorymills7613]

HYPE

[@smarthinus3286]

Smh, why do you guys have to kill so many innocent ayy lmaos?

[@rudolphreichtophen]

They don't learn!!!!!!

[@MrDanieloneill]

Lewis would make a horrible audio engineer :P

[@kenroleinvald3630]

ben getting chump depression

[@naniapetru]

I'm early. That's surprising. The comment's a bit late tho.

[@notavaible8752]

Notification Squad Assemble

[@theworstbird]

If "inclusiveness" ruins a story, isn't it more likely that it's because the writer(s) is just... not actually that good? Like, maybe they're just incapable of writing a character who isn't a total reflection of themselves, the "default" straight white male? If that's the characters you need to write for the story, then fine, but I'm just saying, don't be surprised if everyone gets suspicious if you never write anything else, which has basically been the history of most media in the west. Nerds are still losing their shit over Ghostbusters, but Hollywood has been lousy with reboots and remakes over the past decade or so. Many of them have done far, far worse than the Ghostbusters remake (Robocop, Total Recall, etc) but those were all forgotten. I can't possibly imagine what the difference might be.

[@expressionamidstcacophony390]

The difference is that Ghostbusters successfully used a shrewd marketing to stir up a flame war for cheap publicity. Several of the youtube personalities who criticized the trailers suggested ways that the movie could have done a gender flip WELL, so it's abundantly clear that gender is not the problem. Nevertheless, gender hipsters are still digging up and beating that dead horse in the vain hope of spinning a political fairy tale that it's all about gender. "Inclusiveness" (that is, identity politics) is a gimmick. CHILDREN like to see characters with their name, their skin color, their hobby, their gender et cetera. To suggest that adults in aggregate can't look past that is degrading and xenophobic. Inclusive stories tend to have bad writing because amateurs imagine they can redeem bad writing by slapping "GAY" on things, and writers who partially succeed are chased off by capricious zealots inventing new reasons to cry foul. Please spend the next several years lecturing Asians on how horrible they are for making stories disproportionately about Asian people based on Asian culture and Asian history. The West has had more than its fair share of the flogging, so the East rightly deserves a turn. Surely you won't protest fairness for the sake of singling out white people and treating them badly.

[@theworstbird]

Asia has it's own issues with racism, sexism, homophobia, etc, but I don't live in Asia, I'm not adequately familiar with the various Asian cultures, and Asia isn't the subject of this discussion. Just because someone else has issues doesn't mean you can't address your own issues. Besides, Asia has way more white male leads in their films than Hollywood has Asian leads. Also, there are way more non-white people living in America than there are non-Asian people throughout Asia. Otherwise, you speak like someone who has always seen representation in media. Even if it was just for children, doesn't that still make representation important? And what about all of the non-white, non-straight actors who rarely get decent roles because using straight white male characters instead is considered safer? There's little to no backlash when existing non-white people or characters are turned white for movies (the best actors for the job I'm ever so sure), but the second someone suggests that, for instance, Idris Elba would be a cool James Bond, Bond's whiteness becomes an integral part of his character for some reason and it would be racist to change it? People like you weren't the ones complaining when the Stonewall movie was re-written so that the story was about a gay white man (played by a straight actor) instead of the black transgender woman who actually started the movement. Besides, if "adults in aggregate" can so easily look past differences in race, gender, orientation, etc, then why do these issues keep coming up? Why does Hollywood so consistently keep casting white leads when there are plenty of non-white actors who are just as capable? Why do people lose their minds when a white character is represented as non-white? Why does every movie or show with a non-white majority cast attract so much controversy regardless of its content? I'm an adult. I'm white. Representation is pretty easy for me. I'm gay, but my favorite authors include Frank Herbert and Orson Scott Card, both notably anti-gay. But that doesn't mean that encountering well-written, pro-active gay characters in books or movies - even if they're tiny side-characters, even if it's just hinted - doesn't lift my spirits a little.

[@theworstbird]

"I would be less disgusted if you slung racial slurs." I'm sowwy, did I hurt your feelings? I know, it's hard out here for a white conservative brony. But of course we're the sensitive ones. You seriously used lesbian pornography as an example? You think people watch porn to relate to the characters involved? And again, you keep bringing up issues unrelated to the topic at hand as if I have to address every problem in the world simultaneously or just give up. The movies you've listed (as if white female leads are revolutionary) as being memorable are memorable because they were well-made movies, or they covered controversial topics, or - shock, horror - they were REPRESENTATIONAL of groups that are/were UNDER-REPRESENTED in film, with STORIES that HADN'T BEEN TOLD A HUNDRED TIMES BEFORE. If representation matters so little, then why isn't there an equivalent market for Bollywood or Korean or Chinese or African films among white movie-watchers, instead of having just one or two breakouts every few years, if that? If it really doesn't matter what the actor's race, religion, gender, or sexuality is, then why don't people pour as much vitriol into generically bad movies as they do into movies that supposedly "push inclusiveness," or whatever the argument is? In short: Why do you get so triggered over representation?

[@expressionamidstcacophony390]

>" I'm sowwy, did I hurt your feelings? I know, it's hard out here for a white conservative brony. But of course we're the sensitive ones." No, I didn't say my feelings were hurt, because they aren't. I said I was disgusted by your supreme ignorance, and I am. Now, would you care to defend the position you have taken, or are you satisfied with making wild and irrelevant guesses about my politics and hobbies in a fit of passive aggression? Is that the pinnacle of intelligence that social justice can muster? > You seriously used lesbian pornography as an example? You think people watch porn to relate to the characters involved? If they don't, then there must be some enjoyment people get out of media which is so powerful that it invalidates any need for people to see their race/gender/whatever "represented", which is quite a compelling piece of evidence in support of the idea that adults in aggregate can look past race/gender/whatever. This, you may remember, was my claim. I used lesbian pornography as an example because it demonstrates exactly what I wanted it to demonstrate. >"And again, you keep bringing up issues unrelated to the topic at hand as if I have to address every problem in the world simultaneously or just give up." No, that's not even close to true. The issues I've brought up are flawless examples of the topic at hand. I've argued that if you choose to punish these behaviors when white people do it, and excuse/ignore these behaviors when yellow people do it, then it's fair to suggest that you are discriminating on the basis of race. Further, if you continue to punish white people for these behaviors when white people are already receiving the disproportionate majority of punishment, then we can conclude that you are not in fact motivated by a desire for social justice, or any other kind of justice, and are merely using that pretense to be hateful toward whites for some bizarre reason. You have presented absolutely nothing to challenge or contradict this position in any way, and merely attempt to handwave the issue through a strawman. > "The movies you've listed (as if white female leads are revolutionary) as being memorable are memorable because they were well-made movies, or they covered controversial topics, or - shock, horror - they were REPRESENTATIONAL of groups that are/were UNDER-REPRESENTED in film, with STORIES that HADN'T BEEN TOLD A HUNDRED TIMES BEFORE." Ah, but none of those things are "representation" in and of themselves. To say that a movie was liked for ANY reason despite not directly "representing" the race/gender/orientation of the average audience member instrinsically demonstrates that people can look past race/gender/orientation, at the very least through the mechanism of any reason you give. In other words, you're supporting my position and attacking your own. >"If representation matters so little, then why isn't there an equivalent market for Bollywood or Korean or Chinese or African films among white movie-watchers, instead of having just one or two breakouts every few years, if that? If it really doesn't matter what the actor's race, religion, gender, or sexuality is, then why don't people pour as much vitriol into generically bad movies as they do into movies that supposedly "push inclusiveness," or whatever the argument is?" 'If God didn't make the trees, then how did they get there?' I guess we can have another round if you want. If Korean, Chinese and African films rarely score big among white Americans because of racial "representation", then why do French, Scandinavian and Russian films rarely score big among white Americans? If race, religion, gender or sexuality are the causes of backlash against 'social justice' movies, why isn't EVERY movie featuring Melissa McCarthy or Kate McKinnon (for example) subject to the same backlash? Did they get sex changes for their appearance in Ghostbusters? >"In short: Why do you get so triggered over representation?" Nobody I've ever talked to about "representation" has been able to demonstrate to me that it's anything other than propaganda. I reserve the right to challenge propaganda, and occasionally I do. This was one of those times.

[@theworstbird]

"I don't even know how to describe what an insulting, dehumanizing, reactionary, supremely ignorant speculation that is." Sure mate. Do you even have a worthwhile position, or are you just being contrarian for the sake of feeling superior? How the fuck am I punishing white people by saying that it would be nice if we got some more non-white stories? What kind of fucking nonsense victim complex is that? Get a grip on your fragile ego. I'm not attacking my own position, my own original position was simply and completely "representation is great when done well." But just keep moving the goalpost, it makes you look super great, I promise. Straight, white, cisgender, able-bodied white characters cannot, by very definition, encompass the totality of the human experience, or the western experience, or even just the straight white experience. A diversity of characters leads to a diversity of stories, a diversity of viewpoints. That's what representation IS you ignorant mouthbreather. We as a culture, as a species, are diminished by homogeneity, and media absolutely affects our perception of ourselves and others. That's propaganda you fuckwit. There is historical precedence and scientific research to support what I'm saying, but I'm not going to fucking spoonfeed you because it's not my responsibility to make you a less shitty person. I'm bored of you, so take your weak-ass meme arrows and regurgitated reddit circlejerking and watch your lesbian porn or whatever.

[@CaturDe]

44:21 "Or the black woman asian guy"... So was he/she born a black woman but now identifies as an asian guy? Or half black, half asian? Half man, half woman? Why have things to be so complicated now XD

[@Insertnamesz]

Naww lewis the propaganda got you. McDonalds is delicious and totally macro friendly. You should know that mr gym bro ;) I guess this is very old content.... :D

[@wrathisme4693]

*Calling it right now, they act run in guns blazing and get everyone killed, again.* I don’t know if it was Apocalypse, Piratez, or some combination of the two; it feels like these two have completely forgotten how to play xcom. At this rate we will never see an actual playthough, on top of that if it’s going poorly you’ll abandon the save! You guys need either longer sessions, or more days to play.

[@chilihoyer3550]

Well that might of been a bit premature.

[@Alenthas]

so lewis, are you saying that ghostbusters was bad because there were women in it? O.o