⛔ DON'T BUY A 4K CAMCORDER Before Watching This Video! There is Something Better for Less $$$!

[@RighteousNacho]

For me, as someone who worked as a videojournalist for a news affiliate for nearly a decade, I will lean in favor of a camcorder anyday when talking about video projects. Ergonomics, smooth zooming, and the fact I don't have to switch out lenses during a shoot is a huge plus. I do own a mirrorless camera that shoots in 4k. In fact, I shot video with it yesterday. Unfortunately, I needed a slow push-in and snap zoom that I could not accomplish without a camcorder. At the end of the shoot I was mumbling to myself, "Shoulda brought a camcorder." I love my canon mirrorless for the fantastic photos it takes, but I think I'll be sticking with the camcorder on video shoots. 🤷‍♂️

[@YankeeWoodcraft]

MSRP and street price, in reality, they are only $200 apart ($600 vs $800). By the time you accessorize the camera to be able to do what the camcorder can do out the box, you have to add a telephoto lens and that's an additional $1,000 so now you're up to $1,600. For the person who needs 600mm of zoom, that reason alone disqualified the G85 with the kit lens for starters. Also, why dual cameras? So the shooter can record themselves while recording the event they're shooting (for example, hunters and someone taking part in a motorsport). There are instances where that information would be important to the person taking the video. You're comparing a video camera to a photo camera. The camcorder will always beat the photography camera in shooting video and the photography will always beat the video camera in shooting photos. Since we're talking video here, the camcorder doesn't overheat, can run for half a day compared to the camera's 1 hour on one battery, has better ergonomics for shooting handheld allowing one's arm to act as a gimbal for smoother footage, there is no need to switch lenses for an on-the-fly shot, right out the box, the camcorder can shot clear images 100 feet away which is important for wildlife video, the flip screen is far more convenient for shooting oneself and it's a much more compact package. You can carry a camcorder in a small pod + 2 batteries in the size that a 600mm photography camera alone takes up and be able to shoot all day with that package without having to stop to let it cool down and to rig up an external power bank or battery source for continuous shooting which you can't do (again) because it over heats. You have to stop shooting with it to let it cool down. In the end, it's an apples to oranges comparison. It's like comparing a pickup truck to an electric commuter car. They're good for what they do in their own respective fields. But for video? The camcorder will always beat the photography camera. It's just better in every way. For the record, I got my Panasonic on sale for $600 from a reputable seller (Adorama) and it came with a SanDisk 32GB Extreme SD Card, an SD card case, a camera bag, a card reader, 3 filters and a lens cleaning kit (brush, dust blower, cloths, cleaning solution, etc...) and they extended my 1 year warranty to 3 years. It was already on sale for $700, but they gave me another $100 off on top of that. The accessories alone were worth a good 50 bucks so in the end, it came out to $550.

[@arichster]

I have the vx981 and it is the low end of all my professional equipment but it is a great a great camera.. one little trick which makes it virtually non-stop in terms of batteries is that the proprietary charging wire is USB on the other side. That means you can simply plug it into a USB portable charger which I mount on my tripod with velcro if I need portability. The camera will run and charge at the same time for limitless duration. If you have access to ac, there is no limit because it directly charges the battery at the same time you use the camcorder. The quality is excellent. For shooting in crowds you can use boom type hookups because it is so light and the video quality is outstanding. I've used mine for shooting everything from interviews to sports and it does a beautiful job

[@michaelbell75]

Sorry but Ive owned the GX85 and now own the Panasonic VX981, which is the same as this 991 without the twin camera design. The GX85 is notorious for its terrible AF. It's super slow contrast based AF, it's awful. The 891 blows it away. That alone makes the GX85 a no go. The 5 axis IBIS plus OIS hybrid system in the 891 is excellent. Not to mention you can't even get a 30-626mm f/1.8-f/3.6 lens to match the excellent Leica lens in the 891 and even if you could, it would be thousands of dollars and huge. The 891 is the better camera for video.

[@YankeeWoodcraft]

#facts I own a Panasonic VX1 which is a 981 without the dual cameras too. For a G85 to be able to shoot out to 600mm (100 feet), someone would have to spend $1000 more on a telephoto lens when a camcorder comes out the box ready to shoot that and I've personally gotten some BEAUTIFUL footage of a full moon one night ("Full Moon Phase @ Deer Camp" on my channel). I use mine for hunting & wildlife videos. NEVER loses focus, the stability is insane on it and it's just like a point & shoot camera, but on steroids. You just flip it open and start recording and forget about it, unlike my DSLR's that used to overheat, lose focus, need constant adjustments in changing light, it was horrible. I "stopped" like shooting video. It was too frustrating, too much work. But the camcorder was a godsend. My buddy who has half a million subs did beautiful work with his G85, but he had to spend a ton of money on lenses to do it and it takes him a weekend to shoot a 30 minute video. I don't have that patience! LOL

[@ennovaainternational1915]

My Panasonic VX981 works fine. Videos are smooth and with great clarity. I use Gimbal as hand held stabilization is not satisfactory.

[@willsfinancial8506]

What Audio do you use. I have the panasonic VFX990

[@michaelbell75]

@@willsfinancial8506 I don’t do audio. I shoot video portraits and put music over everything

[@Shipspotting_Vietnam]

How much it costed you for VFX981? i plan to get one soon!@@michaelbell75

[@RayGuselli]

For me, the ability to zoom smoothly when covering sports or equestrian events is essential.... Not available on most dslr and other cameras. Whist there are some limited power zooms for micro 4/3 their ranges mean they are not always suitable. Sony has some power zooms for apsc size sensor cameras but for me, the benefit of a long zoom from about 26mm in a camcorder is a winner....

[@YOLOnyc]

Very valid point - I've got a power zoom Sony lens, the range is very limited.

[@Wolf-mt]

Great video, and thanks for the in-depth comparison. I can't argue with the low-light quality comparison between the 4/3 sensor in the the GX85 and 1/2.3 sensor in the Camcorders, but I think there are still good reasons someone might choose a camcorder. I have the HC-WXF1 which is essentially the same as your HC-WXF991 and chose it for two specific uses; wildlife videos while hiking and youth sports. If those are among your primary uses, the zoom range is at the top of your feature list. A 3x zoom just isn't going to capture facial expressions after a soccer goal or see the steamy breath of a bugling bull elk on a cold morning from 400 yards away. For an apt comparison for this use, you would need to include a telephoto lens on the GX85, but that would obliterate any price advantage or size advantage. And for sports, you're constantly zooming in and out, and while a 3x zoom might be fine for indoor sports in a small gym, the mechanics of zooming in most mirrorless cameras was not designed for video and is often jerky (motorized lenses), difficult to make smooth, and cumbersome to coordinate while following movement (manual lens ring). You also talked about ease of use which can be valuable for the reasons you mentioned, but for hiking in particular, the time it takes to go from spotting an animal to capturing video is often critical. I don't know how long it would take to get video going on a GX85 when you're in a hurry to capture a moose as it's loping across a small opening, but you demonstrated how fast it is on the camcorder; just open the screen. In those cases where you need to get filming quickly, image stabilization also makes a big difference in quality because you're often shooting off-hand. I don't know about stabilization in the GX85, but I would assume with a 24x zoom lens equivalent you would need a tripod (more time to set up), but stabilization is quite good in the WXF1 (the Sony AX53/43 is exceptional). You showed the twin camera thingy, which I have never used before on my camcorder either, but there is a different twin camera mode where you can use your cell phone camera as the picture-in-picture second camera. I point my cell phone camera at the scoreboard of a game and can then bring the score and game clock into the video by tapping a button on the screen. Gimmicky for sure, but nice for this purpose. You talked a lot about power and I was also annoyed at first that the power connector on the Camcorder was a barrel connector, but it does go to a USB-A on the other end of the cord. You can power the entire camcorder from a USB power bank just like you were doing with the GX85. But even better, with the camcorder being powered from the power bank, you can swap the camcorder battery while recording; you don't lose power. So if I'm in the middle of recording something and realize my battery is about to die, I can simply connect the power bank and keep going. And if I'm worried about the power bank dying, I can swap out the camcorder battery and unplug the power bank. But I think you may have both positively demonstrated and simultaneously overlooked one very obvious reason for choosing a camcorder for video; auto focus. It is getting better in mirrorless cameras, but every time you struggled to get a closeup to focus in this video, I couldn't help but thinking "I bet he never had that problem when he was using the HC-WXF991".

[@YOLOnyc]

You've made lots of great points. Auto focus is poor on Lumix mirrorless cameras, but on Sony the a6x00 series it is so good that it defies science - I've got an a6100 and a6400 that are my favorite cameras to use, and are excellent all around. As you noted, zooming in close on mirrorless can require very expensive lenses, however the image quality is so much greater that you do have the option to zoom digitally in post (while editing after filming) that would not look good digitally zoomed using camcorder footage. If you don't need extended length continuous shots, your type of filming may benefit from a 4k superzoom camera - I've got 3 of them that have traveled the world with me, and they're fantastic toys, and can capture a smile close up from at least several hundred feet away. The Nikon B700 is my favorite, the digital stabilizer is excellent and you can handhold the camera if you lean or support your hand, at full 60x 1440mm optical zoom. The big downside is the small sensor and 4gb maximum file size (7-8 minutes). Your scoreboard trick with the phone is neat. If it were me filming, I'd just set up a 2nd fixed camera and edit it in afterward, but obviously that's more laborious.

[@ritmoantiyano1551]

A camcorder you have more zoom and the focus is more stable

[@JoeSeniorVideo]

Zooming in and out, while covering performances is very important to me with good focus. The Camcorder would be my preference

[@savinggracechurch4112]

Camcorders remain in focus as you zoom, and of course, professional journalism is still using Camcorders. Camcorders are not still cameras trying to be video cameras. It is better to buy something purpose made.

[@savinggracechurch4112]

Just bought myself a rather nice cinema camcorder a Panasonic Avccam AG-AF101E very cheap. Awesome professional camcorder!

[@artiombeknazaryan7542]

What about the overheating issues with mirrorless cameras vs camcorders?

[@YOLOnyc]

I use most of cameras for frequent 75+ minute continuous filming shoots. My GoPro is the only camera that I have ever had overheat - and it happened while filming inside an enclosed parked vehicle after 40+ minutes on a steamy 100+ Fahrenheit summer in NYC. Most modern cameras should not overheat - check the reviews before buying them if that is a concern.

[@dep2kat]

I found camera-type video recorders have a limit to record in 4k before they overheat. This was why I got a camcorder. I was recording my kid's hockey games and the camera kept overheating and stopping = ANNOYING to say the least. Yes, it was more expensive but now I can record all i want in 4k w/o overheating

[@YankeeWoodcraft]

Yeah, I'd rather have great quality for hours over just a little bit more great for 15 minutes.

[@ShowaGalaxy]

the lumix in this video doesnt have this problem

[@paulallenMacca]

Thanks for the info on the Camcorder,I have the Sony FDR AX53 4K Camcorder but I mainly film Buzzards or Hawks in the sky but the problem is when your trying to track and follow them in the sky it jumps in and out of Focus remember it’s like a dot in the sky and hard to stay in focus so I don’t know what camcorder would be perfect for this kind of filming.

[@abcplacebo]

sony RX10 IV

[@YOLOnyc]

@@abcplacebo That is a great recommendation, but it is an expensive camera! Sony mirrorless autofocus on series made in the last 6-7 years is the best that I am aware of.

[@Wiganpilot]

I have recently purchased the Panasonic HC-VX3E-K 4K Camcorder, the revised model from the original VX1. I am not by any means a professional videographer or photographer, just a hobbyist. I could afford a more high end model, but just couldn't justify spending that extra money, this VX3 cost £680 in sterling and is more than enough for my needs. I will be using it to stream video eventually on my KZbin channel, and filming family gatherings like this Christmas for instance, also filming planes for too on the tripod I purchased at the same time. I did once consider a DSLR camera a few years ago but never acted on it, I am more than happy with the Camcorder.

[@fthprodphoto-video5357]

I have a Sony 4K AX700 camcorder with a 1 inch sensor and integrated ND filters. The zoom lens is great and the stabilizer is works quite fine. The issue is that it shoots great outdoors footage, but is quite useless indoors. So I take the Sony with me for outdoor events only. The G9 with bright zoom lenses and primes is otherwise the way to go. The GX9/GX85 cameras are good too but the G9 is more professionally oriented It would be amazing to shoot on a dedicated M43 camcorder with global shutter, integrated ND filters and smart HDR video. I hope a camera like that will come out one day

[@Keepingthefaith72]

Where are the video examples to show how well each camera performs?. I noticed a lot of your video shots are blurred ...

[@gerardowmby7156]

Wrong. There is something about camcorders that competes -- smooth zoom. And the AX700, NX80, and z90v have a remote for a very slow zoom crawl for talking heads. For low light, keep your full-frame camera handy.

[@YOLOnyc]

Sony mirrorless offers E-mount lenses with electronic zoom control - exactly the same smooth zoom as a camcorder, but with much less zoom-range and much better image quality.

[@bazza1041]

you forgot to mention being able to zoom with the camcorder far further than the camera without having to change lenses

[@YankeeWoodcraft]

My one Panasonic VX1 is like carrying a mirrorless camera body + 2 lenses in the space of just one telephoto lens. It's just one small compact package that can shoot for half a day one one battery without overheating and being able to shoot from 25mm out to 600mm (100 feet) with the simple push on the zoom. Insanely efficient and easy to operate and you practically never have to worry about losing focus.

[@bazza1041]

I have the panasonic HC-X1500 and the additional handle @@YankeeWoodcraft

[@bazza1041]

@@YankeeWoodcraft I have the panasonic HC-X1500 +handle

[@consciouscoma85]

you can not run & gun with a mirrorless. that deer is not going to stand there wile you change lenses or rack focus or go into your menu. with a video camera its ready to go just press record. my Panasonic Lumix g7 was half the price of my canon ghf50 and the g shoots a beauty picture but i have to set it up and the auto focus sucks. i have to rack focus and get that shimmer .I use 1080p anyway, 4k takes up more space on my hard drive and they do not make enough compatible gear to support it. what they do have is pricy. were 1080p has a ton of electronics like converter boxes. i can record through my newer roland HD mixer with every format but 4k.

[@YOLOnyc]

While I do agree with the good points that you've made, I've also got a G7 as well as several cameras that operate similar to your G7 (GH4, GX85, etc.) and understand why you feel the run&gun process is slow. I also have several Sony APSC bodies that autofocus much faster and more accurately than the Lumix, and are fairly quick on initial boot up - so your point is relevant based on M4/3 gear, but paying more for Sony equipment does get the best of both worlds.

[@HeyJols]

This year I WANT to own a high end camcorder. Something like the Sony FDR-AX700 OR Canon Vixia G40 depending on if I like the smoother skin on the 1/2.3 sensor over the POSSIBLY over detailed 1 incher. That zoom is soo nice and it makes life simple but yeah... you're right about the price. RIP 💸

[@phil4986]

Check the manufatcurers site if they support the camera with an upload utility. Canon doesn't. You have to magic the video onto your computer. I returned my G70 because of the lack of support from Canon.

[@harlemwoodstudios]

Take a look at the Panasonic HCX2000 or HCX1500. Those are very good camcorders for outdoors during the day, but require a lot of light indoors. They are not good in low light. However, their image quality is outstanding and they come with lots of features.

[@swinetownamericanbulldogs1749]

My Panasonic 991 was only £521 brand new and the autofocus blind's the GX and low light the 991 is awesome for its 1/23 sensor. But the GX will be better and is a good camera. But you forgot to mention the amazing stabilization and zoom on the 991 lol

[@imtheonehero9305]

but which one has the better audio recording? i dont want to buy a mic or external audio recorder...

[@CaleMcCollough]

In my studio I use small sensor cameras because they have a unique look to them. You get much better zoom with tiny sensors.

[@kell7195]

Which one doesn't overheat 15 minutes in? 🤔

[@AnthonyRosbottom]

I have an old Panasonic HC-V180 (great grandad of the 4K HC camcorders) and I love it. It's only HD but I love vlogging with it. Small enough to fit in a jacket pocket. 50x optical zoom. I prefer shooting with it than my iPhone. The footage is on the SDcard, not tucked away on iCloud. I did lose the charger for my HC-V180 a while back so had to resort to a buying an external battery charger but the camcorder is still useful to me.

[@ColdenRaney]

The gx85 is unusable if you are moving it. The rolling shutter is absolutely pukeworthy. The autofocus is horrible and the picture is nowhere near as sharp as the Panasonic. One of the worst comparisons I’ve seen on KZbin.

[@YOLOnyc]

The gx85 autofocus is bad, but if you're not getting sharp images and having rolling shutter problems then your sensor may have gone bad or your settings are wrong for your lighting/shooting-type, because video from mine is super tack sharp.

[@ColdenRaney]

@@YOLOnyc what? You can literally see the rolling shutter in your video as you are going side to side. That camera is known for it. It’s a consumer camera, not professional in any way.

[@adrian4jc]

Does the VX980 have clean hdmi output?

[@Addie-py8pk]

Hello! Where in this video do you compare the HC-VX1K as stated in video description? I've searched through the transcript and cannot find! Please help! Thank you!

[@YOLOnyc]

The camera that I refer to as the "camcorder" is the HC-VX1K

[@inlumina_punctro]

And if I want a camera that shoots well in low light, natural colours and a strong zoom, is there such a thing without spending a truckload of money? Oh, and decent stabilizer. :)

[@YOLOnyc]

Yes, but the trade off is in lack of simplicity. I typically film with mirrorless cameras (excellent in low light and color reproduction) attached to a gimbal for the ultimate handheld stability. For strong zoom, I'll take with me several lenses based on what I anticipate shooting - changing them is a genuine set back, but the alternative (long range zoom lens) is extremely expensive. Most cameras ship with a "kit lens" that zooms to middle range lengths, add a prime lens for ultra wide and another for ultra far (aka portrait lens), and you have something for everything but changing the lenses gets very annoying.

[@inlumina_punctro]

@@YOLOnyc Ah, I meant a compact, take-along solution for the unexpected situations that arise. So terrestrial technology isn't capable of making a lightweight, good-for-all, rainproof, zoom, shoot-even-at-dusk video camera...then maybe aliens.

[@YogiGcomedy]

Hi , good video. i am a hobby stand up comedy artist. Mostly the performances happen in low light areas like bar or restaurant. I was shooting with my phone but in low light and zoom , the quality is ok to good . So looking for something in the range of 300 to 400 $. Can you please recommend any camcorder or camera or compact camera for this particular use ? Thanks

[@YOLOnyc]

$400 is insufficient for the ideal choice which would be a used Sony a6100 with "fast" lens (with a low F-stop number), the lower the F-stop (aka "faster" the lens) the better it will be for shooting in low-light - that is probably about $500-600 in today's used-market. Within $400 there will be tradeoffs such as 4K without a time-limit, but using the same Sony lenses you might get within budget a Sony a6000. For about $200 used, you should be able to find a fast lens on the older Sony NEX-series cameras - I have a Nex-5N that I bought used a few years ago as a toy for $100 with lens and it is amazing, although today there are better options like the Nex-6. Panasonic Micro-4/3 uses a smaller sensor than the Sony cameras, so the low-light image quality will be inferior, albeit still better than just about all of the camcorder options out there from any brand.

[@alejoromero]

Can You zoom in with the mirrorless? Do You have mic in or headphones out?

[@YOLOnyc]

Mirrorless cameras have options for zoom-lenses and prime (non-zoom) lenses. Prime lenses usually have much larger apertures which make the image substantially better and brighter. Never seen a headphone-jack on a modern mirrorless (does not mean it does not exist) but almost-all of them have a mic-in.

[@jackraymond5009]

Points you haven't made: 1. The camcorder has both an external mic socket and a headphone socket. Sound is very important for video. The GX80/GX85 has neither, so you have to pay for and carry some kind of external recording device (at least another $100?) to get good sound for serious videos. 2. The screen on the GX80/GX85 doesn't let you see yourself when recording, which means that just to get framing, you have to a) sync with the Lumix app b) use an external monitor or c) get one of those mirror boxes which sit in the hotshoe mount, which are all clunky solutions that get old fast. 3. Few people will want to steal your camcorder. 4. It's fairly easy to hold a camcorder to do smooth pans and zooms. 5. It's impossible to do a smooth zoom with that kit lens on the camera, nifty though it is, nor can you even focus manually. The lens on the camcorder allows you to do smooth zooms and is suited for wildlife and sports and even shows and concerts, which otherwise would require very long, heavy, and expensive lenses. Also, you can set it to manual focus on that Panasonic series, or set the focus ring to control zoom or aperture instead. 6. There is an infrared night mode on the camcorder as well, also useable for wildlife or effect. In other words, what you're paying for with the camcorder is an amazing superzoom lens and an all-in-one solution for video at long-range plus vlogging/filming yourself. If the sensor were bigger, the lens would have to be bigger and the price would go up astronomically. If you want to do atmospheric shots at night for extensive colour grading, I would get something else, but it wouldn't be the GX80, which is an all-in-one versatile solution for photos and video, but needs various accessories (audio/video/other lenses) if you want to get the absolute best out of it. The best thing about the GX80 is its portability, that you can stick it in a bag with a couple more lenses, without even noticing the size or weight, and that it can take 4k video for a relatively low price.

[@marknettles]

Does the mirrorless camera have unlimited video recording time like camcorders do?

[@YOLOnyc]

Yes, but not all of them - some Lumix and most Sony do, although possibly only for cameras sold in the USA market. I've used the Lumix in this video for many 90+ minute uninterrupted 4K recordings.

[@Jake12399]

The VX981 is only 5.1 audio if you record in ACHD which is super old.

[@YOLOnyc]

ACHD? Or AC-3 in AVCHD format?

[@Anonymous--Troll]

I bought a Panasonic intelligent 90x zoom in 2017 and am amazed how camcorders have not evolved since. Are there any good cameras on the market today with that strength of zoom?

[@YOLOnyc]

I'm not aware of what's available, but best buy and other places are still selling the 991 in this video, many years after I bought it, and I purchased it used, not new.

[@TSGEnt]

Thanks for the conparison. That picture in picture feature is a marketing feature and what would be considered "value added". It's not. There is a version without the second camera.

[@YOLOnyc]

True, without the 2nd cam it was about $100 less expensive when new.

[@Moes_Prep_and_Tech]

how would that camcorder comparre to a osmo pocket 3 for product showcase videos?

[@YOLOnyc]

OSMO pocket is an amazing device, but the lens is tiny and requires a lot of light for good image quality. With enough light, it can shoot cinematic shots, which is remarkable but in the majority of typical use-cases you are not in control over the lighting in your environment.

[@JohnonaBike]

@@YOLOnyc The Pocket 3 is renowned for its excellent low light abilities

[@ciberemarcb5782]

is there a way on the HC-WX to record ONLY with the second lens? the one in the screen?

[@YOLOnyc]

Not that I am aware of. No idea why you would want that as the smaller lens is inferior to your cellphone camera, so you are better off shooting your selfies on a different device.

[@michaelweigel8253]

What about the point & shoot overheating? Any issues there, say shooting a speech or performance?

[@YOLOnyc]

Overheating has never been am issue for me. Other than my GoPros, I've never had any of my cameras overheat. Even my GoPro 9 needs to be recording in 90+ degree weather for 25+ minutes continuously to overheat.

[@thewik-thewik]

Use the inbuilt one or put a bigger IR light with the zero lux on the camcorder and it becomes a night vision beast. we have 2 of the panasonic camcordeers and use them for night time investigations.

[@YOLOnyc]

Night vision is certainly another benefit of the camcorder that I hadn't covered in this video - thank you for pointing that out!

[@SciFiDreamer]

Dose the Panasonic HC-VX981 display military time or standard?

[@ennovaainternational1915]

Can set up as wish

[@Weeee1eee]

I am a trainspotter and i need to capture long distance sometimes. But i need good quality camera. What kind of canera would you suggest me to buy ?

[@YOLOnyc]

Long zoom is extremely expensive in genuine high quality. For reasonable quality at lower price, try a superzoom camera - I've got like 3-4 of them, my favorite is the discontinued Nikon B700. There's a few older videos on this channel that demonstrates the capabilities - filming from the top of the empire state building, from a bell tower in Ukraine, etc. They're all titled with the word Superzoom

[@Weeee1eee]

@@YOLOnyc ah okay thanks man

[@Weeee1eee]

@@YOLOnyc sorry to bother you. Can you give me an advice for microphone too please ? I saw a lot of microphones like K8 and lavr microphone and wireless microphone but none of them sounds smooth to me.

[@airhead1430]

dude i just spent 700$ too get that nightvision outlast vibe idc about quality or whatnot. in outlast they use a camcorder so im gettin a camcorder

[@YOLOnyc]

Nightvision is a great example of an advantage of the camcorder - never seen a mirrorless with that.

[@EasyBreezy]

Do all camcorders have night vision? I was thinking about outlast when buying one too😂

[@sacredxgeometry]

Given the Panasonic has 1.8 it's decent in low light and the FORM FACTOR is most important. It's a camcorder and you can get that super smooth zoom that is not capacitated on a DSLR style camera. It's definitely not as good as those, but it's the best entry level to the HC style cameras that sit on the shoulder. I definitely appreciate the vid either way

[@alecbuxton7634]

A lot of the cheaper camcorders have the same problem with time limits when shooting videos which is normally limited to around 15 minutes but they are slightly pointing it out in tecnobabble by saying that the camera is perfect for vlogging

[@senetr]

I watched some comparison videos in which I-Phone was better than camcorders at stabilization. I would expect camcorders to be expert at at least stabilization. So what is the point of buying a camcorder this day that can not handle even stabilization good enough ? If you shoot static videos ,mirrorless cameras have far better image quality ,especially at low light. If you shoot action videos ,walking etc., you d better buy gopro or sth. Maybe they deliberately neglected camcorders and did not develop.

[@privacyhelp]

no overheat, better battery, better grip, better zoom, better port and connector

[@senetr]

@@privacyhelp These are not problem for amateurs. If you are a professional ,then you will get an expensive pro video camera already.

[@abcplacebo]

Choose your tools based on the subject you're photographing, and comparisons like these don't mean anything.

[@ZeroPointProductions]

Vx1 for me is a much better choice. The stabe is stellar and 600mm zoom is so handy. The gx85 needs a large 300mm lens to be equivalent. For me the vx-1 is a perfect b-roll camera for grabbing many different shots when i don’t have my g9ii with a 400mm lens (800mm full frame equivalent) which I love but don’t always have in the car with me. My vx-1 (dead now) used to live in the drink holder of my car.

[@williamoverton7775]

for a guy with no accent this guy is suspiciously English looking

[@YOLOnyc]

I'm Bond, James Bond. Lol, in other videos I've had plenty of comments about my New York accent.

[@PHLocalExtremeSports]

buying mirror less need you to buy spensive lens if you want use it for zooming, there are pro and con and its depend on that your filming.

[@tony0000]

Audio quality?

[@YOLOnyc]

Covered this in the video- 5.1 surround for the camcorder vs stereo for the mirrorless.

[@ennovaainternational1915]

My Panasonic VX981 works fine. Videos are smooth and with great clarity. I use Gimbal as hand held stabilization is not satisfactory.

[@Jake12399]

The GX85 has a 29.59 time limmit. I'm so confused. Are you sure that is a GX85? and not a G85?

[@YOLOnyc]

I think the euro spec may have the time limit, but the USA models don't. If yours does, then you bought an import/international model; "gray goods" sellers often sell these heavily discounted without any factory warranty.

[@kk-pz8gn]

Jake, If you're in Europe or the camera came there, it has a 30minute recording limit US cameras don't have this limit.

[@Jake12399]

@@kk-pz8gn Is this true for 1080 60p? I have owned this camera and there was always a limit.

[@cessealbeach]

Had Panasonic HC-WXF991 , I replaced it with a Sony FDRAX-700, way better auto focus

[@ennovaainternational1915]

Camcorder Panasonic HC-VX981 and Camera Panasonic Lumix GX85 are about same price now close to 1000/-. Difficult to decide.

[@YOLOnyc]

Not sure what part of the world you are in, but in the USA, the GX85 is only $600 on Amazon.

[@carmenmartwick4681]

Best buy is selling the HC for like 650$ brand new now

[@ennovaainternational1915]

@@carmenmartwick4681 Thanks but I am in CAN and price is 1K

[@YankeeWoodcraft]

G85 is $600 and the 991 is $800, both on Amazon so the difference is really only $200. But if you want to shoot out as far as the camcorder can, you'll need to spend another $1000 on a telephoto lens for the camera when the camcorder can already shoot out with it's 626mm lens.

[@ennovaainternational1915]

@@YOLOnyc CAN , 1K CAD

[@jettschenker]

The Camcorder will never overheat in 4K and your Panasonic will.

[@YOLOnyc]

I've used both my Lumix and Sony cameras to film 75+ minutes continuous 4K footage using only external battery adapters, and have never had them overheat.

[@mikelreborn3254]

I just bought a HP t250 for 20 bucks hell with the 4k camera.

[@badyride909]

Tu afirmas que un lente de 500 mm para la GX sigue siendo mas barato que la camcorder?mmm

[@YOLOnyc]

Porque necesitas lente de 500mm?? Un cámara con esta lenta como telescopio.

[@badyride909]

@@YOLOnyc para igualarlas en prestaciones y poder compararlas,entonces cuanto dinero costaria la gx con un 500mm? lo mismo q esa camcorder?

[@YankeeWoodcraft]

@@badyride909 Eso mismo...para el G85 poder competir con el 991, tienes que gastar otros $1000 (de lo que yo pude encontrar) para un lente 626mm. Es como comparando manzanas y naranjas.

[@computerjantje]

I disagree completely with you. You comparement is just not acurate. The camcorder has a lot of advantages and to name one you also can feed the camcorder with a usb powerbank.

[@truesightgrabber]

DMC-GX85 does not record video with stabilization and no proper zoom.

[@YOLOnyc]

The GX85 has 5-axis IBIS stabilization in the body. If you use a zoom lens then it will zoom, but I do agree that you would not call that "proper zoom" like a camcorder or lens with electronic zoom control.

[@anakinfuksa3322]

This is late but outlast

[@RichWithTech]

See, when I covered this topic I came to exact opposite conclusion. That said I respect your right to have the wrong opinion about this 😉

[@sergeantcrow]

Ha ha.... Excellent ! I would like the GX but already I am lucky to have just got a HMC 151to use....

[@youranonymous931]

Thank you for your video, appreciate it a lot

[@no-tf1ry]

Hello, Great Video... As far is i know the price difference has to do with the video recording time and and import tax... A camera that can do video up to 30min is imported and taxated as a (photo)camera...if a (photo)camera does over 30 minutes it will be taxated more because they tax it as a Video camera .so would pay a much higher price for even a simple Photo camera.

[@brothermoto1964]

Form Factor? Camcorder wins hands down.

[@YOLOnyc]

Why??

[@brothermoto1964]

I love the way a camcorder fits in the hand that's all. They're out of favour with manufacturers though clearly.

[@lordnilsson]

You don't have such a fantastic zoom on the compact camera...!!

[@jonjacksongrieger255]

I got 2 with about the same specs for $120

[@sirnubenegra]

Crazy lightning

[@kennyloish4682]

I have a sony 6100. It is better then the panasonic. my sony AX53 is batter to. But I shoot with the sony 6100.

[@YOLOnyc]

Good choice of cameras!

[@dpatrick813]

This dude don’t know what he’s talking about. Camcorder for the win, after you buy all the necessary lenses, batteries and some type of cooling device to keep that dslr running while shooting 4K video, trying to make your camera compete with a camcorder you have spent the equivalent of two-three camcorders.

[@YOLOnyc]

Cooling device for mirrorless?!? I've used both my Lumix and Sony cameras to film 75+ minutes continuous 4K footage using only external battery adapters, and have never had them overheat.

[@harrison00xXx]

Pretty unreasonable comparison, but i see you are trying to sell us bad, outdated mirrorless cameras

[@rytmydjembe]

camcorder will be always better than what you suggesting

[@jorgem50]

camcorders are for dummies. Super easy to use. mirrorless and dslr are a bit harder but once you figure out how to use it then the video is golden!

[@privacyhelp]

take video with camcorder or with dslr or mirrorless are basically same

[@YankeeWoodcraft]

How do you "figure out" the less run time per battery or limited zoom of the kit lens? 😂 Oh, that's right. You spend $1000 more on a 600mm lens and buy 3 more batteries at $45 a pop to compare to the camcorder's 1 battery that comes with it and the built in 600mm lens. It's apples to oranges. For those who take pictures while it's dark, they need a photography camera. For those who take videos, they need a camcorder. Nobody expects a fish to be able to climb a tree very well or a wolve to do deep sea diving. .

[@jorgem50]

@@YankeeWoodcraft trust me, mirrorless are way better for ME! Camcorders although easy, just don't give me a cinematic look. I primarily use a 50mm f1.8 and tokina wide 11-16mm f2.8. I have no need for super zoom lenses.

[@YankeeWoodcraft]

@@jorgem50 What kind of cameras actually give "cinematic" footage? Camcorders. That's all film cameras are. LOL Mirrorless give the cinematic "look" while camcorders give actual cinema footage. If you're going to compare a camcorder to a mirrorless, (body, lenses, accessories, etc...), then you're easily talking $2000 camera set-ups and you can buy one camcorder that will give you all of that in one device for that same $2000.

[@kunjunction1]

the picture in picture is great for event. can zoom in for a wedding and get a seperate video for everyone else. same for baseball games etc. that camcorder can be fully ran off of usb power as well. the panasonic wins hands down for video recording. wont have to ever change a battery, worry about heat and it can work in low light situations which the camera you are showing sucks ass at low light and theres no night shot on it that is worth a damn. your knowledge about the cameras shows your lack of experience. sorry bro you are still amateur

[@AttitudeCharter]

Appalling audio mate.

[@Uiurmot]

Crap review

[@homelroy6590]

👎WRONG. The winner is x991/x981 for video.

[@VespasianoNevio]

always this stupid camera numbers..