Bethesda Doubles Down On Permabanning Loyal/Helpful Fallout 76 Players, Issues Useless Response

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[@ShiftRPS13]

Hi yong

[@BigMac87963]

Not even EA is this bad to their community. Says a lot

[@hdhghghghg2269]

LOL yong so dishonest ..shadowed my comments poor yong

[@S4ns]

It's like they're trying to win a bet it something.

[@WarAuthority]

If you thought F76 had issues.. just check on Rage 2's issues.

[@BananaDuck]

Next they are gunna start banning people who don’t even have the game.

[@somewhatnerdy8112]

thats already happened actually lol

[@factsandstuff2832]

@@somewhatnerdy8112 I want a link to that story. Lol

[@cherrydragon3120]

@@factsandstuff2832 same

[@birmandragon1495]

@@cherrydragon3120 I think many people want a link to that story.

[@bill19282]

@@somewhatnerdy8112 link or it never happened, yes I'm too bored to Google it !

[@godless1014]

Me: Where'd you get that black eye? Fallout 76 Player: I . . . Um bumped into a wall. You know how clumsy I am. Me: Bethesda hit you again, didn't he? Fallout 76 Player: Bethesda loves me. It was an accident. Me: You need to get help. You deserve better. Fallout 76 Player: You don't see how Bethesda treats me when no ones around! He gives me emotes. Me: Emotes? EMOTES!? He's going to kill you! Fallout 76 Player: Shhh! Bethesda's coming! Bethesda: Hey bitch . . . You got my money?

[@wetskunk8108]

Ooh, talking about toxic relationships

[@jimcanterak7349]

They don't actually deserve better.

[@loganw.2178]

The relationship just works

[@francescolombardi3438]

@@loganw.2178 16 times the detail

[@captindo]

Fallout 76 needs an intervention.

[@DDXofficial]

"I used to think Fallout 76 was a tragedy, but now I realize it's a comedy." - the entire gaming community

[@ismasan9305]

DDXofficial 😂😂😂

[@LordNanfoodle]

Well, they always say that tragedy + time = comedy. :3

[@longleaf1217]

its like watching a train wreck. a very slow train wreck. you keep thinking "so its over right?" but it just keeps getting worse somehow.

[@DDXofficial]

well ain't that right.

[@Keys879]

It's a homicide.

[@anteojos6843]

I remember when there was a job called Video Game Tester, it was a paid job and your name even came out in the credits. Good Times.

[@TheHenirik]

Hey, now that we have digital releases it has gotten to expensive to test games

[@charlestownsend9280]

Why spend money testing the game when no matter how many times you release buggy games and fix them months later, if idiots still buy the game and spend money on in game products?

[@Rajnaik57449]

@@TheHenirik that statement makes no sense

[@otacon1024]

@@Rajnaik57449 It does if you realize it's sarcasm.

[@JukaDominator]

@@charlestownsend9280 They aren't buying the game though.

[@kumamarru5492]

Remember, cheats are only okay when they're sold in a macrotransaction shop

[@adamg7984]

Lol oh man a fantastic point. They'd love if you cheated using their fucking Fallout 1st pay2win advantages against all the poor fuckers who don't want to waste $13 a month. But god forbid you cheat and exploit without their express consent and without paying their fees. And God forbid you cheat and exploit to try to solve issues, you fucking cretin.

[@adamg7984]

They should really just start calling us cretins instead of consumers and/or customers because that's how they see us. Every time a problem has come up Bethesda has responded with zero trust towards the reports. Like the scrap disappearing from the Fallout (ripoff) 1st scrap box. They disputed that it was a fucking interface bug only to have to admit it was in fact deleting scrap. I mean I have no confidence that this situation isn't the same. This Map 76 guy is likely entirely innocent and telling the truth but Bethesda sees every person as a lying, cheating cretin who's trying to pull one over on them.

[@thebeeghoont7888]

*Macro*

[@vermeilicide]

@@adamg7984 most people including me just bought it and canceled it instantly for the outfit

[@ShadowHunter120]

Was gonna say micro* But lets be honest the prices are too damn high.

[@stormerbuzz352]

Bethesda is like a friend on drugs: You see them going down and you want to help, but they don't want your help, only your money.

[@samwalker3165]

This comment is too true

[@adamg7984]

An excellent analogy

[@Jaytwisty23]

Very apt description

[@junepiss561]

hey u got 5 bucks bro?

[@Apodeipnon]

They have something called money addiction. Quite common.

[@silvertriforce2574]

"Is the Company destroyed?" "Not yet" "Well keep trying!"

[@rileymccreanor6492]

Aint that a kick in the head

[@daeryk6424]

All these companies should brazenly strive towards this goal knowing it'll never happen. Treat it like a game.

[@dan_noo]

"It just bans" -Todd Bannard

[@arjnarersn01]

16x the banning

[@trevorcarl9515]

Procedurally generated bans so there can be infinite bans.

[@willthrizzal2647]

Todd you dork go back to the chess club....

[@drekenproductions]

4x the graphics on the ui for the ban message

[@Nope-move-along]

No. Not bans It's your empire Bethesda burning down around you and it's you the greedy fucks that has set fire to the fuel you've been pouring since Obsidian left you high and dry For they knew Bethesda would eventually become the next EA

[@frostylapine]

Bethesda - If everybody is banned, nobody can give bad reviews

[@ghadabad]

No one will notice... If there's no one left to notice...

[@seanfield1329]

Banning people from playing fallout 76 is the best way to stop people from playing fallout 76.

[@andydudley1775]

True but people already trashing the game and never played it.

[@onewayroad3765]

Just like Winnie the Pooh. If u kno what I mean

[@theblackbaron4119]

@@ghadabad yes there can't be whitnesses to a murder if no one has eyes.

[@SuperLPGaming]

Im overwhelmed with joy that I never bought this game.

[@TSPH1992]

Aye. It saved me a lot of money and headaches

[@rodrigocampos1302]

Me too, i was excited for the game when it was anounced, but this and others channels teach me to wait before buying or preordering

[@tandemic4232]

Same lol, Wish I could look forward to a new Elderscrolls game.. ah well

[@hanibalking7841]

SuperLPGaming i agree

[@blessedbow720]

i did when it was starting to look better (at sale obviusly) and because at that patch it was actualy playable a month later they let me experience launch

[@dob_z]

I would love to read the book on this in 10 yrs time: "how to kill the trust of your community that you spent decades building up in just 1 year"

[@devoncarico3804]

More like all in one month

[@thefenrisianssweatshop]

davvv dobsy in the preface, “We missed the whole “social experiment “ fad by some time, but by Christ, we had spent some time building ours up, years in planning. And when we did.... boy.... it just worked....”. Todd Howard 2029.

[@weebtrash6119]

Lmaoooo basically

[@slipknota7xeg]

Working title... "Bethesda: A Tale of Ignorance and Incompetence"

[@dookie_12]

“Ban them all!” -Mad King Bethesda

[@jackfrost105]

Bethesda is going down the cliff. Bethesda is going ban happy!?!? Bethesda is losing its fans and supports in a heart beat. Bethesda is lost, period! I hope next year is a good year!

[@velvetaeon2774]

It's not that bad. If u don't cheat you don't get banned. Also, Every player had to sign the terms of service.

[@CreepyHandedMan]

@@velvetaeon2774 There have been exploits in F76 that allowed to access other people's accounts. These got under Bethesda's radar. To find them and expose them you need to cheat before actual hackers start using them. It's a case where benevolent cheaters are necessary for the well being of your own account and money. Banning them is synonymous with murdering your game and your playerbase. It is that bad.

[@notjack2491]

Where's a Jaime when you need one?

[@13thKingMu]

@@velvetaeon2774 most hackers in 76 are still out there while ppl who tried to expose them force to use cheat to look at the hackers ip and you know what happens next,it is that bad.

[@The-Blue-Knight]

It took EA a while to become infamous. It took Bethesda one game to do the same. Let that sink in.

[@zhongxina2733]

That sink can stay outside

[@charlesandhisworld]

This train ride started with horse armour, escalated with Fallout 4 and especially its Workshop DLC, and now we're here.

[@rattman3975]

Oblivion? horse armour was ok, just cosmetics. Skyrim? Good I guess. Fallout 4? Good game but too many pay to wins, the beginning of the end.

[@billsmith30]

It started with horse armor, got worse with that buggy, hard crashing shit show that was FO3 and New Vegas, even worse with the bigger shit show of FO4, and reached fever pitch with 76

[@Dibol1987]

Uh, EA was infamous since the 2000s. Water remains wet.

[@handbanana4899]

Next episode: Bethesda sues customers for not giving them enough of their money

[@AP13P]

That would be amazing.

[@gahmivolka]

please don't give them any ideas....

[@CBRN-115]

Next news: Bethesda actually kills players for no reason at all. CEO Todd Howard's response is "It just works"

[@Oriaks]

Don't give them ideas.

[@AJR-vn2um]

There would still be people on Reddit supporting their business decisions.

[@TmanT321]

"if you're good at something, never do it for free" - heath ledger

[@thetman0068]

"Ok. How much do you want?"

[@nmartell1007]

The Mad Gentleman Um. HALF.

[@maxducks2001]

Nobody: People at Bethesda: So...How can we make the situation EVEN WORSE?

[@RKNGL]

*Beth's next Headline:* Bethesda kills Make-a-wish child. Issues apology, promises family at least 500 atoms* after backlash.

[@MrChocolateDinosaur]

Aaaand the headline after that: Bethesda fails to keep promise to family of Make-a-wish child, the family's accounts have been banned until further notice.

[@GodWarsX]

*with the purchase of 2500 atoms first

[@Caleb-en5bo]

@@MrChocolateDinosaur Then Bethesda offers to un-ban their account after they write a 1,000 word essay on why pointing out Bethesda's scumminess is wrong.

[@XescoPicas]

Honestly? I wouldn’t be surprized. I have long accepted that there’s no end to how low Bethesda (and huge companies as a whole) will sink.

[@baronvonbunghole5999]

Implying that any Make-A-Wish children would want their crap

[@trickyy5738]

Players: *literally doing more than the own devs* Bethesda: yeah ur banned

[@Your-Least-Favorite-Stranger]

Bethesda: "Stop raising player expectations, you're making us look bad"

[@Raivo_K]

Players: literally doing more than the own devs Bethesda: wait that's illegal

[@sspectre8217]

My respects for fallout 76’s community, the way Bethesda treats and attacks them they are as tough as a water bear

[@Qardo]

It is Customer Service that is banning people. Not Bethesda totally.

[@IR-Fan]

@@Qardo but why tho?

[@Stonezorz]

Theory: They are actively removing smart players from the game so they're left with only brainless whales.

[@somewhatnerdy8112]

thats what they want, because they know those "brainless whales" are the ones spending money on a rotting corpse

[@yazidefirenze]

Somewhat Nerdy Aka Giving a dead man new clothes

[@sethgilcrist8088]

@@yazidefirenze aka people with click addiction. Let's face it there targeting people that spend 100's of dollars on a mobile game like clash of king and it's ilk

[@sofakingonmynuts1438]

Aka grabbing a turd bare handed 😞😞😞

[@JukaDominator]

Interesting strategy, but I don't know if this would make the game profitable.

[@pawed.7512]

it still amazes me how Skyrim and Fallout had dedicated modders who cared more about the game than developers who actually made crapload of money on it...

[@MarachiHibatchi]

Bethesda's so ignorant, they must be living in the cloud district

[@mobiusone6994]

You live this time, arrow fodder.

[@NinjaSushi2]

Bethesda is on too much skooma.

[@Seoul_Soldier]

@Slak Kap that unexpected manslayer

[@boracaybecker175]

That's so true because I don't get to the Cloud District very often.

[@RpgBlasterRpg]

This is why pucci want to reset the universe over this level of stupidity

[@kevythekevlar]

“We aren’t planning on doing anything about it”

[@adanzavala4801]

IT JUST WORKS IT JUST WORKS

[@ghostoperator4163]

Things aren’t up to the “Fallout standards” Cue a Vietnam flashback about a the bugs and glitches

[@KM-je6bf]

They never do. The best you can hope for is that in 10 years they release a remaster edition for PlayStation 6 that is actually functional and sell it for the same price as a new game.

[@redray213]

*IT* *JUST* *WORKS* *!*

[@croc3862]

Couple bugs in there, that's a broken script right there. The fans will fix it anyways so we don't care!

[@washboardman7435]

"We aren't planning on doing anything about it." - Bethesda Customer Support.

[@salottin]

"Bethesda bans players for buying their games" -January, 2020

[@Channelthatprovidesplaylists]

Júlio Salotti at this point I wouldn’t even be surprised

[@Justm3180]

"Bethesda has proceeded to ban players for not buying their games." - February, 2020

[@MagyarGaben]

"Bethesda bans possible unborn kids of ex-Fallout76 players for simultaniously buying and not buying their games." - March, 2020

[@calebl8053]

Person who found exploit: *reports exploit* Bethesda: “so you’ve chosen death?”

[@OfficialCANVAS]

It was already found... But not yet reported by the founders

[@The.Sky.Driver]

It's Treason, then...

[@BigCreepySleepy]

Just imagine what Bethesda does to their employees 🤔

[@kimjuanjun7124]

Worse case scenario is them pulling off a konami making hard for their employees get other job

[@S4ns]

Imagine working at Bethesda like two years ago and then now. How do you even get out of your car in the parking lot without feeling terrible?

[@truculenttrout1084]

Oh dear, you have reminded Bethesda that they actually pay people to work for them, here comes the new era of digital slavery.

[@shadowdude1293]

Probaly pays them with actual bottle caps

[@truculenttrout1084]

@@shadowdude1293 Hopefully not ones from Nuka Rum, the residue would poison them.

[@Doctorme4]

Bethesda: No refunds! ACCC: *stares in consumer protection laws*

[@Oldschool_Gamer_]

I remember when ESO launched there was a bug that made certain resources in certain zones insta respawn. This led to bots auto looting these resources all day at a rate of about 6 gold per second. Being a big MMO player i knew how severely this would ruin the economy for months. So spent 2 days trying to figure out what was causing this and calculate how much gold was being pumped into the economy this way... All this time trying to harvest as little as possible... because, well, you never know... Glad i did my testing carefully. But seeing all these exploiters getting rich while i was wasting my free time trying to help fix this... time i paid for since it was a subscription game... I regret doing it. And now seeing this happen again, how? Just how?

[@ShudowWolf]

You get a ban! And you get a ban! EVERYBODY GETS A BAN!!! unless you hack in infinite hp and noclip. You're alright.

[@masterofnone7823]

Look under your seat-it's a BAAAAAN!!

[@lordodysseus]

How to destroy 15 years of love and dedication in 20 months or less.

[@XescoPicas]

It’s really sad that I once considered Bethesda a role model for game companies. Now they’re up there with EA and Take-Two, at the very top of a sh*t tower that just keeps growing...

[@An_Average_Idiot]

Now that needs a "How To" wiki page!

[@Aurum100]

Horse armor

[@kingdedede6982]

@Jay L ?

[@superjesse645]

@@XescoPicas 20 months? Try one week.

[@KRAFTWERK2K6]

"16 times the bans!" Kneel before Zodd Howard.

[@JustSaiyanDude]

Bethesda: Huh, so this is rock bottom Tom Holland: Guys i found a basement!

[@StitchXDHD]

Do you mean Todd Howard or is goddamn Spiderman caught up in this shit now?

[@lukematthews2209]

@@StitchXDHD the latter.

[@rileymccreanor6492]

Tom Holland?

[@Forcer69]

*Hackers “Nothing wrong here.” *Actual players “Now this is an avengers level threat!”

[@emoemi948]

Benny Li ok boomer

[@cyanicdream2218]

@@bennyli2211 The hypocrisy in what you just said is astounding.

[@Ebani]

@@cyanicdream2218 I think you meant "the irony" but yeah that guy is trolling in plain sight

[@ryuuotaku35]

Forcer Call the Avengers.

[@datfacepriceless3442]

@@bennyli2211 neither do you.

[@funsun5364]

2019: Bethesda are like EA 2020: Bethesda replaces EA

[@tankofnova9022]

2021 publishers as a whole start to be ignored by devs. 2025-2030 publishers go bankrupt due to no existing investers

[@kamrdpencil2183]

The funny thing is EA actually made a good game this time. Fallen Jedi Order is doing well. Edit: the game doesn’t even have micro transactions. And Also, didn’t buy the game. Just pointing out the irony.

[@Yotarian]

BethEAsda

[@0mikr0n]

@@kamrdpencil2183 No one cares. Boycott. Let the past die.

[@squeakersthegryphon5338]

@@kamrdpencil2183 So? Watch it becoming full of lootboxes and milked to ground. Don't buy anything from them.

[@kevinnguyen507]

Player: So we tested some exploits an- Bethesda: Wait, you need to test for exploits?! Player: yea- Bethesda: BANNED

[@archibaldc.1833]

"We aren't doing exactly what we're doing. We would never do that."

[@4hunnid584]

Todd Howard: "Execute order 76" Also Todd Howard: "Everything's definitely NOT proceeding as I forseen."

[@ll-js7iq]

Also Todd Howard: "You are about to get destroyed physically, mentally, and spiritaully."

[@roriscross2632]

this is as sad as the actual order 66

[@rammywarrior4033]

you had me dying in laughter but i see Todd more like Anakin just turning to the darkside and Altman the ceo of Bethesda as Palpatine

[@ChucksSEADnDEAD]

People put more effort into the Fallout 76 jokes than Bethesda actually put on the game.

[@DrMonty-yr1kc]

Im Todd Howard, t o d d h o w a r d

[@TheFallofTheEleventh]

Bethesda: ‘get banned lol’ Players: ‘but they were helping to fix the game.....’ Bethesda: ‘oh ok I see.......get *perma banned* lol’

[@BoostedMonkey05]

It's like that one scene from Spec Ops the Line. I won't spoil it but you know what I mean if you played it and it either made you feel bad enough to not want to continue playing or feel bad enough to want to torture Conrad.

[@yazidefirenze]

Carter Fox “Ring-a-ding baby”

[@JohnSmith-qz9sl]

@Carter Fox edgy

[@swimwiththedead]

"We want a lawsuit, give us a lawsuit" - Bethesda

[@mermadicamerican7754]

Just waiting for Bethesda to release a pay-to-access app that does exactly what Map76 did.

[@Naruku2121]

Well, guess Bethesda is a believer in "No Good Deed Goes Unpunished"

[@Sunseahl]

Of course they do. It was litterally said in an unmarked quest all the way back in TES3: Morrowind.

[@DefaultGatewayable]

@@Sunseahl the one where you have to dive into that pond to get a ring for that nord?

[@Qardo]

It is the Customer Service that is banning bug testers and exploit finders. As the Customers Service doesn't give a shit. As they see only in Black and White. No, shades of grey.

[@Sunseahl]

@@DefaultGatewayable Yeup...

[@yazidefirenze]

Ahem... *No Deed* They punish it all

[@CamPopplestone]

Bethesda: We didn't ask you to test for exploits, so you're banned Them: But you don't test yourself, so someone shoul. . . Bethesda: YOU'RE BANNED

[@travisseagroves69]

Correction BANNED! MUTED! BLOCKED! AND PUTS YOUR EMAIL IN SPAM!

[@blazeaglory]

BANNED!

[@travisseagroves69]

@@blazeaglory "THE BAN HAMMER HAS SPOKEN" "GET THAT DICKWEED OUTTA MY SIGHT" - Black ops 2 sound effect when a player gets banned for team killing in multiplayer lol

[@casadilla111]

YOU LOSE! YOU GET NOTHING! GOOD DAY SIR! I said GOOD DAY SIR!

[@pt8306]

Imagine literally ever giving a single cent of your money to Bethesda

[@shadowsicksix]

Well they used to be good. Pretty sure they are in the angsty Anakin phase though. Will they evolve in to full blown Darth Vader?

[@factsandstuff2832]

I hope they get it together before es6 comes out. I really need it to be good

[@flaming7488]

@@factsandstuff2832 don't hold your breath on es6, starfield is the next game coming out

[@cherrydragon3120]

@@factsandstuff2832 ahahahaha sucks to be you then mate. ES6 is gonna be a massive shit show.

[@ExireHG]

Very cautious with Starfield considering how Bethesda is acting. It's annoying playing Skyrim and having to see the stupid DLC 'shop' but doesn't actually affect the game at least. Fallout 76 calls into question how far they will go on their next single player game. Nothing to do but wait and see. JUST DON'T PRE-ORDER. DON'T DO IT! Or, well, do whatever you want I guess. But ya'll got warned by this internet stranger anyway haha.

[@VaImorian]

Its like Bethesda is actively sabotaging their own game LMAO

[@sofakingonmynuts1438]

You think they want to be working on this piece of shit for 5 years lol?

[@luisf2793]

Joseph Anderson was right.

[@akirajotaro]

So basically, Cheaters: Timeout chair. People who report about cheats: Exile.

[@nintendo1889x]

All the more reason not to buy their retarded games

[@a.t.strock2960]

He didn’t just report about a cheat. He performed the cheat first, then reported it. The reason he performed the cheat doesn’t really matter. He didn’t have the permission or right to do it and he chose to anyway. Bethesda May look at it as someone who not only is cheating, but in a way bragging about it to them. If they want to know about possible exploits in the game system, they will hire people to do it for them. That guy wasn’t on the payroll, so he doesn’t have official protection.

[@Umbra_Ursus]

How's that saying go? "Shoot the messenger", right? Something like that.

[@vocalcalibration8033]

Based on the state of the game they don't have people on payroll for this sort of thing.

[@NcrXnbi]

Good thing Path of Exile 2 is coming out soon.

[@darknessrealm9575]

At this point I'm not even disappointed in Bethesda. I'm disappointed in the thousands of people still playing fallout 76 and supporting them.

[@adanzavala4801]

I would abuse such stupid people too lmao, they exist to be abused and exploited lmao.

[@S4ns]

Yeah, are they just masochists? "ooh Bethesda, hurt me more, take my money Papa Todd, glitch my map, make me T pose!"

[@Carnax6969]

I would love to learn from these AAA companies how to turn financially-retarded morons into revenue streams. It is utter genius how much they make for so little work.

[@avpthegreat]

Sunk cost fallacy. They invested too much of their resources into Fallout 76 to quit. So they keep playing the game and imprison themselves in Bethesda's schemes until they develop Stockholm Syndrome. These are also the kind of people who are victims of abusive relationships, fyi.

[@Blindashitmetalasfuck]

Like the KZbinr "Knowing Better"...

[@avoretsims8989]

Bethesda: Hey, if you know how to get into Testing Hall or other exploits please tell us. Players: *Step up* Bethesda: SO I STARTED BLASTIN

[@Parthornax]

Fans: “People are cheating at the game!” Bethesda: “Snitches get stitches!”

[@Lexie_Tyler05]

Oh by the High Ground, they never learn

[@hhhfdsfs]

Agreed

[@alexharvey7660]

Customers: we have the moral high ground!

[@jayfarias8440]

Hello there!

[@andrewplck]

Section ratio general!

[@DR3S1NGH]

@@alexharvey7660 Also customers: Ooh a new Fallout, TAKE OUR MONEYS!

[@raileyti]

Fallout 76 is the most entertaining game of 2019. It given me hours of laugther and entertainment. Decpite not paying a cent. i dont even own it.

[@user-vr2ye4ev3y]

Good one I don't own it either we are just spectators huh?

[@crimzongaming5470]

As a player that has this game: don't buy it. Not only is it as bad as it sounds, it gets worse every week.

[@jameslyddall]

raileyti its sad when you go onto official bethesda videos and you still have lots of comments calling Todd a living god ect ect (vomits in mouth)

[@moralauthority7124]

You stole this comment, you also didn’t even English it very well.

[@TheChaster123]

i got 76 from redbox and played it for a day to see if id like it. I did not. only spent 3 bucks.

[@Raito73]

Blizzard : I'll win worst company of 2019 award Bethesda : Hold my beer Bethesda : Hold my beer Bethesda : Hold my beer Bethesda : Hold my beer Blizzard : Okay okay, you win

[@avpthegreat]

Players: Try to make the game better Fallout 76 devs: “So anyways I starting banning”

[@k.earhart6055]

I love how normally companies would hire people like these guys to test bugs, but Bethesda's just gives them a big ole middle finger

[@AllegedDev]

Nah, a normal company would just either start a bug bounty program or say thanks and send over an NDA and some swag. Why keep them on staff permanently when you can throw them a few bucks here and there? Either way, the end result of not getting banned is the same.

[@MackenziiRivers]

*cough* Sonic team *cough*... well in their case hire a bunch of talented fans to make a game for them

[@hussainvandeliwala5585]

@@AllegedDev But at least they would benefit from it...

[@rogueraccoon1840]

Yeah Bethesda really wants the game to be broken and they don't care

[@nobodyfromnowhere3597]

Its mentality of a cult and wreaks of scam artists at work.

[@cattrucker8257]

"What can we do about Bethesda's reputation and public image?" "To shreds you say?"

[@SirusEinzla]

"Oh my... and how is their community holding up? To shreds you say?"

[@jessewalker8854]

*hangs up* "GOOD NEWS, EVERYONE! Bethesda has gone full EA! hmm, well that's not good news at all..."

[@willbrown6298]

@@jessewalker8854 I don't wanna live on this planet anymore..

[@katiacritten9975]

"I pronounce the operation a success!"

[@LouSassol69er]

It's like someone opened their Fallout save with paragon karma and proceeded to shoot every NPC lowering karma piece by piece.

[@IronKnightStone]

I’m just here waiting for internet historian to make a part 2 with all this stuff for his fall of 76 video.

[@armando8800]

Bethesda at this point would be a perfect target for the phantom thieves.

[@Dokusha_]

2019 the year that mysteriously every company want to loose their fans

[@emoemi948]

yea they better tighten them up!

[@mr.madhatter5538]

@@emoemi948 I actually want to edit their comment myself

[@theblackbaron4119]

Well it's definitely not for the lack of trying this yeah. All of them do their best. Meanwhile Capcom, CD Projekt Red don't get exposure because they are delivering great things and improve.

[@KingKimwer]

Losing? There are still dedicated fanbases for games like F76 and Anthem despite the developers and publishers pretty much sacking them in the face.

[@joezilla29]

Why do people always misspell 'lose'? Are you using autocorrect?

[@xmlthegreat]

Remember, DO NOT FORGET THEIR BEHAVIOUR, EVEN IF THEY SEEM TO IMPROVE IN THE FUTURE, DO NOT LET YOUR GUARD DOWN.

[@theuncalledfor]

Companies are not individuals, they are groups. Look at the people responsible (especially the ones in charge). If the company seems to improve, are the culprits still in there? If yes: DO NOT FORGIVE THESE BASTARDS. It's probably a facade because they noticed they make no money anymore, and even if it's not, do you really want to give these assholes money anymore?! If no: Remain cautious, but be ready to forgive. The new management might be better, and the money is no longer going to the guilty party.

[@MrMagichobo21]

bump

[@geektarded]

The flip side is that every exploiter would say “I wasn’t hacking, I was just trying to test and debug an exploit to help you guys out.”

[@GunRecon]

No, they don't, because they only get 72hr bans. There is no flip side here.

[@aikitran420]

Every time I see Bethesda mess up all I do is just go “YIKES”

[@nowonmetube]

"16 times the fail" "It's just worse" - Godd Howard

[@fresh_out_the_oven7225]

Duck howard

[@nowonmetube]

@@fresh_out_the_oven7225 😂

[@Lunam_D._Roger]

@@fresh_out_the_oven7225 How dare you insult Majestic creatures such as ducks‽ How. Dare. You.

[@MoStLy1aWaKE]

Hodd Toward

[@johnj.spurgin7037]

@@Lunam_D._Roger okay Greta. ;)

[@WildZephyr]

This game needs to die. We should not be supporting this.

[@MrBALAKUMARA]

This game already dieded

[@lokki9203]

@@MrBALAKUMARA just as your grammar

[@RNTV]

@@MrBALAKUMARA Surprisingly it's not. There are still way to many people playing this game daily and spending tons of money on the store.

[@Jaiden_Anime_Shuns]

Oh im going full hacks now. Since bethesda doesnt mind as long as i dont tell them how i did it. Think today is a low gravity godmode day.

[@MrBALAKUMARA]

@@lokki9203 OK

[@lukeak4010]

I can remember when this game first came out. I was planning on getting it but, then they released the bata so... one of my friends was about to it, but I stopped him before it was to late.

[@rubhan94]

6:20 it really is amazing how dedicated some of these players are for the Bethesda games. But it’s really sad then to see how Bethesda is treating them. I really hope they come around and start praising their dedicated community and show them some love.

[@vcrbetamax]

They’re trying really hard to get you to not play.

[@ghadabad]

I wonder why? Maybe they want the parent company to drop them and sell it cheap... Could you imagine if this was Todd's plan all along and we'd owe him an apology at the end of all this...

[@cruzaofdeath]

Maybe because they want to RIP this game. They know its broken and they dont want to support it anymore. Maybe they want to focus on new ElderScrolls or whatever.

[@PanagiotisDemetrios]

adam dyląg The only way Bethesda can comeback into everyone’s good favor is Elder scrolls 6

[@nathanlevesque7812]

@@ghadabad Zenimax is a holding company that Bethesda created. It's basically just their accounting, management, and marketing division.

[@ghadabad]

@@nathanlevesque7812 I see... So no chance of them being dropped into the public market to escape their corporate overlords.

[@odinsplaygrounds]

Community: Why would you ban people for reporting bugs? Bethesda: Yes

[@Blox117]

player: there's something wrong with your game, here is what it is: .... bethesda: *bans player and everyone who complains* does anyone else have a problem with our game? bethesda: no one else is complaining, so our game is perfect!

[@eatmyphatphuckingass]

@Justin Saephan nigga where

[@Mikcha212]

Justin Saephan lul.

[@Robert399]

That's not how that joke works...

[@Robert399]

@@loveblanket6512 He's not using them to cheat. He's doing the QA work that they should have done and didn't for free.

[@WilliamHaist]

I feel like we're going to get to a point where bethesda is uninvited to E3...

[@baburik]

if anything they belong in this ad fest that nobody cares about anymore

[@EndOfSmallSanctuary97]

That would imply E3 has any semblance of morality or integrity at all

[@WilliamHaist]

@@EndOfSmallSanctuary97 i legit didn't know e3 was considered immoral or without integrity? Could you explain to me why the impression of e3 has gotten so bad? I use e3 to see if there's any new games to buy, so knowing people hate the show confuses me. It's the shitty assed developers you should be mad at, not the event. If bioware, ea, and bethesda are going to fuck up, that's on them not on e3. e3 also has other really good developers like Larian studios who showcase their next titles (Hoping baulders gate 3 gameplay gets shown next e3). So again, how is the show itself immoral or without integrity?

[@ChickenExotic]

Community managers: Located in Bethesda,MD Bethesda customer support: Located in Kablukablukastan

[@ktaylorkatie]

Bethesda has depended on modders to fix their broken games for years and now they are being banned for it. Nice. GG Bethesda

[@stephenlyon1358]

Cheater got banned. That's all that happened here. This guy thought he was untouchable.

[@mlgapplejuice4539]

👀

[@alaiasnonla9309]

@@stephenlyon1358 how's he a cheater?

[@kyrildmtr8487]

@@stephenlyon1358 Literally first two minutes into video Yong says something along the lines of 'testing exploits and reporting it to Bethesda in hopes of improving the game' Either you have an attention span less than 10 minutes or you didn't even watch the video at all. The guy didn't 'think he was untouchable', if you found exploits in Google, for example, and reported it to them, you *get paid for it*. That holds true for just about any other major company, really, at least companies that give a shit about their product. Can't blame him for assuming that, you know, he wouldn't be fucking banned

[@lilzurako5798]

@@kyrildmtr8487 its just a troll don't feed the stupid kid any type of attention .

[@nicholasbreecher9315]

I am, and have been, fully convinced that they're TRYING to kill the game with arguably business oriented decisions so that they can shut down the servers in order to avoid the maintenance costs and a class action lawsuit for not maintaining servers as advertised.

[@angreydoggo4357]

if they didn't want to have maintenance costs they shouldn't have made the game to begin with.

[@blazingdude11]

I was thinking the exact same thing, this can't just be ineptitude at this point, they MUST be doing this on purpose so they can move on and forget about this game. However, they can't because there are still people out there more than willing to play this despite the state it's in...

[@asktoybox]

I don't think Bethesda is concerned with anything being "as advertised" at this point.

[@kenetickups6146]

And get money through tax loopholes

[@biquiba]

Interesting take. It's not out of the realm of possibility.

[@yazidefirenze]

Bethesda is the replaced EA EA made a better game now.

[@CrowMercury]

Anyone who stays in Fallout76 at this point needs ACTUAL HELP. This is literally an abusive relationship that needs to stop for the good of everyone.

[@odinsohnder2midgard73]

Fallout 3: “Where’s my father?” Fallout 4: “Where’s my son?” Fallout 76: “Where’s my refund?” Bethesda: Hold my beer

[@turtlemasteralpha3320]

Odinsohnder2 Midgard please man this comment was saw numerous times so its stolen obviously

[@TheHeroicBlockhead]

alphablood119 Lol it’s even a meme on Instagram

[@Blox117]

fallout 3000: "Where's my game?????"

[@TheGoodLuc]

And it's still funny. Unfortunately.

[@odinsohnder2midgard73]

@@turtlemasteralpha3320 I posted this comment in the bethesda forum before it was in youtube and also in other forum I can also say that you stole your comment as well, there is no copyright on it

[@fiyahspinnah]

They're trying to figure out how many times it takes to shoot themselves in the feet until they collapse indefinitely.

[@icthulu]

They're past feet and now kneecapping themselves.

[@fiyahspinnah]

Nubby flubs.

[@YammoYammamoto]

@@fiyahspinnah I think bethesda could actually shoot the customers rather than their own feet... ...and these zombie brained NPCs would STILL come back to spend their money on bethesda's shit products.

[@ChocorocK]

@@YammoYammamoto Yeah. The videogame industry has the most braindead consumer base. No matter how bad they make things the Publishers have a safety net set up.

[@ginefloki3022]

Problably not soon fella there are out many masochist still praising that gargabe like a jew loving nazis ore something like that

[@Dr.MantisTobogganMD]

I still spent like 200 on that helmet so technically I hate my life.

[@VitalHonet98]

LMAO

[@Dr.MantisTobogganMD]

Gloom Genetics Check eBay, they r like 30 bucks :(

[@odst_1185]

At least you got the damn helmet. A cool piece to have on your mantle. A real eye catcher.

[@why-is-this-handle--a-thing]

"it's dead, jim -all the fallout community"

[@bohrokgaming5770]

I remember when a bug/exploit was found in TF2, valve would reward player with a unusual hat of their choice. Guess rewarding players for helping the game is a lost art.

[@nesss99]

Gaben is our savior

[@AllegedDev]

@@nesss99 Not until he learns how to count to three.

[@gday8813]

@@nesss99 Until you realize tf2 hasn't had a major update in 2 years and will probably never see another update ever again since Valve is too busy with CSGO and Dota.

[@reeepingk]

@@gday8813 "Cough cough" TF2 is 12 years old. Move on ok? A decade is PLENTY long enough for a company to support a game in this fast moving game environment.

[@MackenziiRivers]

i remember this brought up on a tf2 community page. someone made a meme saying 'they got a ban, we got a hat' and... yeah a hat isnt much but its just something as a thank you for finding a glitch/exploit. hell even just a thanks we'll look into that would be enough for any situation. but noo, bethesda has to be the special ones here and just outright ban people for helping them

[@xmetax]

Next time an exploit is found just tell everyone EXCEPT Bethesda 👍

[@mr_JackSchwarze]

x Meta x agreed

[@IR-Fan]

"16 times the exploits"

[@luminatron]

@@IR-Fan "4 times the hack size"

[@wankhairulwanali9485]

4k support of games bugs 🤣🤣🤣

[@weaver3636]

They can fix the bugs themselves without telling Bethesda in order to avoid getting banned. I still don't know why people still playing the game though, there are plenty of better multiplayer games out there that didn't treat their fanbase like crap.

[@coldire1016]

When did Bethesda become EA?

[@lukematthews2209]

When tod began.

[@Bonswally]

I live in Australia, our consumer protection laws are great. You can basically demand a refund in any situation lol even after like a year

[@theviciouschickenofbristol4779]

I've never been so entertained by a game that I didn't play.

[@ManTheManLV255]

I was just talking about this to a co-worker.

[@andersondawn3631]

Internet Historian: [cackling while taking notes for Fallout 76 Part 2]

[@-._.-KRiS-._.-]

He made a Part 1??? WHY DIDN'T YOU TELL ME!?

[@swimwiththedead]

@@-._.-KRiS-._.- "he"?

[@Zetherian]

I keep thinking about that and fuck I need it

[@lloyd355]

Zachary Johnson yes? “He” literally speaks in his vids...

[@AmazinglyAwkward]

Fall of 76 FTFY

[@koffiewolf]

''For example, one member discovered and reported a security flaw where passwords were stored in plain text if logged in through the exe. ''' Best fucking game ever

[@1Caja]

Imagine banning people that not only work for you for FREE but are also paying you money. This is advanced stupid. :)

[@alexfritzy]

“The customer is always right? Here at Bethesda, we prefer the company is never wrong :)”

[@xblackdog]

The customer can't be right if they're not a customer anymore.

[@VotePaineJefferson]

It's not the right choice. It's Bethesda's Choice.

[@ForeverDegenerate]

@Alex Fritz No, it's the part of the company that "is never wrong" never listens to the part of the company that "is always right." Like, the Community Team sounds like they know what they're doing, but the Customer Support Team sounds like a team of asshats that don't listen to anyone but themselves. I can't imagine the Community Team not having tried to go to bat for the members of the community that have actively been working with when the Customer Support Team banned them. I fail to believe that the Community Team didn't submit some sort of list of accounts that are working with them and that are not to be touched. I WOULD believe that the Customer Support Team just ignored it. I fail to believe that the Community Team aren't pissed about all this. In my opinion, I think there needs to be a Bethesda Civil War because it's clear to me that the different teams within Bethesda itself can't or refuse to work with each other.

[@davidholts-pate7779]

Bethesda has openly turned into Vault-Tec 💯.

[@chrisschoenthaler5184]

David Holts-Pate No. Bethesda is just full of fuck-ups. They aren’t outright EVIL.

[@johnj.spurgin7037]

@@chrisschoenthaler5184 some would define wanton greed, prolonged incompetence, and the deliberate punishment of people who have attempted to aid the developers as evidence of malice.

[@ChasingLions_]

Chris Schoenthaler They’re almost as evil and greedy as EA. They let money poison their minds. No way around it.

[@flaming7488]

The fact that no one realizes that it is zenimax thats turned greedy

[@veikkoveijola9538]

Njaaah, Vault-Tec was succesful company who acted as a customer friendly and had wonderful connects to government to trick people to use their products. Bethesda is... well, opposite of Vault-Tec :P

[@jimbojambo2477]

Bethesda once made a video about how dedicated they were to the single player game experience. Then within 3weeks announced 76 will be multiplayer w/ no npcs. This was the smoke before the dumpster fire.

[@jubirelle]

Bethesda Translation: "Stop making us look bad."

[@kurtheil4922]

This is exactly what is happening.

[@theuncalledfor]

@@mikesinyaboot5992 Whoa there, that's a hell of an accusation to make. Got any evidence to back that up?

[@madhouse2594]

@@mikesinyaboot5992 Accusing someone of being a rapist is a big deal, you know

[@Fernisvale]

lol

[@hyponautical1908]

@@mikesinyaboot5992 he's definitely a corporate shill and fallen from his former grace, but I'd never insult him with the term "Rapist". That doesn't only end careers, but also lives.

[@heyheyitsjae2475]

"Hey can you find bugs in my game" "Yeah sure... here's one" "Kay thanks, now hold still so I can aim my handgun"

[@PreceptorGrant]

In fairness, I've worked call-centre tech support/customer support for one of the tech giants. There were things we would do for customers pretty routinely, but would always position as 'a one-time exception'.

[@ZLeonheart]

Imagine this: >Elder Scrolls 6 >Will be Live Service even if its single-player (Like Ghost Recon Breakpoint) >Released Full of bugs >Community creates Unofficial TES6 Patch >GETS BANNED ....Let that sink in

[@Ch35h1r3C47]

¦:'¬|

[@Isador11]

thats exactly what will happen

[@baronvonbunghole5999]

I'll revisit this comment and praise you as a prophet once ToS6 comes out, and every one of these comes true

[@Isador11]

@@baronvonbunghole5999 same. i made a screenshot so when they release Tos6 i can say "community predicted it years ago"

[@wakoothehomie6432]

Oh that'll let them make a patch and then make everyone pay for through the creation club

[@cbeasy1995]

"We're gonna need, 16 times the refunds!"

[@groundwork1962]

Noice

[@thschnick]

Noice

[@RoachDoggJR.-]

Noice

[@ilikegoblo4665]

Noice

[@StarForgers]

forgets to add a few digits

[@DawnOfTheOzz]

It's kinda hard *NOT* to talk about Fallout 76. It's like a never ending Christmas present.

[@Snairster]

This same garbage happened in a game I play called maplestory, I found a few level exploits in the game, tested them to let nexon know and they permanently banned me for it. The issue is game companies have been doing this for years, this is nothing new, and I'm glad you're bringing this to light. Hopefully there will be some sort of rule dividing these issues and exploits and how they're dealt with.

[@therealbfunke]

“You’ve tried the best, now try Bethesda “ lol no thank you spacers choice

[@TheCheese1988]

“You’ve tried the best, now try the Betht"

[@Etmannon]

“It’s not the best choice, it’s Bethesda’s choice” lol 😂

[@z0h33y]

Was Outer World's really that good? I played it up till Groundbreaker and was seriously bored by it.

[@TheCheese1988]

@@z0h33y If you were bored at that point, you won't change your opinion with more playtime. I, and many others, enjoy slow burn story with rpg choice elements, which TOW did well.

[@z0h33y]

@@TheCheese1988 It was bit of a disappointment for me since i am a New Vegas fan. I think what ruined it for me was: no respawning enemies, no random encounters, no feeling of exploration because of how linear the game was: do the missions on emerald vale, get on the ship and go to groundbreaker, do the missions on groundbreaker, now get back on the ship and go to the next planet.... It felt like i was playing a Mass Effect.

[@kic8523]

STOP. BUYING. THESE. GAMES. OMFG.

[@wat2999]

Nobody even wants Elder Scrolls 6 anymore. Just go away Bethesda. You guys are done.

[@cameronthornton1251]

I think everyone needs to stop "Contributing" the reason why Bethesda have got themselves in this mess is because they EXPECT loyal fans to fix their shit in the first place .

[@kitkatty52211]

It isn't the dev's fault. I believe that the dev's really care about the game and are working hard it is just the people in charge of them, the company head, and the customer service sucking is the problem. Contributing is helping the devs who care about the game but it sucks that it helps the greedy hogs as well.

[@greatspacegoat147]

Bethesda is litterally playing russian roulette with a fully loaded gun at this point.

[@mcpuszek1347]

This gun alredy fired.

[@ezioauditore4120]

The only way to truly punish a company like this is to dry out their Mana. No mana no stupid and broken games.

[@S0renz]

They've got an ACME dynamite kit and we'll all be there when it blows up in their face.

[@Blox117]

hold my paid mods!

[@MrRuano825]

Is there anything left of their feet for them to shoot?