You burn the same amount of calories every day

[@TheRealOMT]

Very fascinating indeed! I was a Fat Shark until I turned carnivore 10 months ago, and I’m even back to my college wrestling weight! I was working out like crazy but just couldn’t lose my gut until I stopped eating fruits and vegetables.

[@pano6391]

Likewise and I'm leaner than my college wrestling days.

[@stanisgmi]

This is a groundbreaking idea! Man am I glad I follow you

[@erikec67]

It makes sense that if you are very active your body would want to be lighter to conserve energy. If you are heavy your metabolism would stay high to keep the weight in check. It also makes sense that if you are lighter you naturally burn less calories than if you are heavier.

[@jamesburns5223]

This seems to imply that the more time, within reason, you spend breathing fast (expelling a lot of CO2) within a day the more time you will be breathing slow (parasympathetic/ enhanced vagal tone) when not active. If metabolic output in constrained, metabolism after excercise must be reduced. Increased vagal tone seems like a way to achieve this, and enhanced activity within the vagus nerve is associated with a decrease in inflammation via the secretion of acetylcholine which acts to inhibit cytokine secretion in the cells of the body.

[@LifeandLiesSyra]

in a way that is what happens with athletes: stimulating heavily cardio and heart rate, their average drops significantly. This would basically mean that if we want to heal and be the best version of ourselves we have to play with variables and spend our efforts in few meaningful activities instead of literally spreading ourselves thin.

[@ked4864]

“…You spend those calories largely on physical activity…if you take that away, your body is going to spend it on something….like inflammation…”. I’m recovering from reconstructive surgery (bike accident; pins, plates, and cement in my leg). My assumption (from this clip) is that that exercise -even though I’m recovering - will keep inflammation down and therefore help my leg heal? I’m an athlete; I’m trying NOT to do “too much” - but also don’t want to do too little during these several months of recovery.

[@leeedmunds2539]

Interesting stuff... esp T levels, cheers

[@jerseyjim9092]

Interesting hypothesis and since I'm a science buff I'll probably check out his book when it's gets to the library or thrift rack.

[@The-eo4lj]

Paul looking like your avg homeless person when he grows a beard hahaha

[@tommy92660]

Thanx

[@kasimirb5155]

Well, obviously, most Westerners are obese, because they don't burn the same amount of energy as the hunters. Those who are not, are active. And what's hunting, after all? Walking around, looking for prey, hiding behind bushes, waiting? Not half as intense as any Crossfit workout. Here is an interesting article which shows the problems with CO2 measuring (such as fasting and diet): www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5477450/

[@Bakamojo]

Yes this theory is bunk. Unless we are calling 50-75lb of lard “inflammation” this doesn’t pan out. I’ve seen people get injured and have massive activity drop but refusing to eat less and they pack on the weight. I myself lose weight faster when upping activity

[@barzinio92]

Question : if they ate more with the same level of exercise maybe they would have higher testosterone?

[@lawdogwales5921]

Hadza men have low T! Who would have guessed that?

[@pano6391]

@Linus did you watch the video?

[@lawdogwales5921]

@@pano6391 Apparently not!

[@bryanreinholdt1234]

Very interesting

[@bidnow2946]

Sorry. I don't believe this and the click-bait title. Yes, calories burned falls in a pretty standard range, just like weight. Yes, NEAT does go down to (somewhat) compensate for activity. However daily calories out each day does change for an individual. If the point is that a lean, athletic hunter-gatherer spends 3000 calories a day and a 300 pound couch potato also spends 3000 calories a day, then that is a completely different issue.

[@sunkthebirdie7082]

Saladino postulates his guest will disagree with Gundry. Guest totally agrees with Gundry (if you don't exercise, you'll waste calories as inflammation) 😆

[@munch92]

Apparently the guest did not agree with Gundry. Their theories point to two different directions: Gundry proposes that we should reduce our unnecessarily extra caloric intake/metabolic expenditure, which will be invested on our immune system and thus causes inflammation; while Pontzer proposes that our metabolic rates stay the same regardless of our lifestyle, so we should exploit physical activities such that our immune system has less caloric budget to mess around.

[@henrikmadsen2176]

At the very end: What is he saying?? And how does that make sense?? He says something like: “if you do exercise, you don’t have these calories for other uses, which can be detrimental”

[@Mellow-Minded]

Noticed that as well. Not sure. I think he means if you don't use the calories on working out, then you'll use them in such a way that the body finds ways to use it through for example inflammation, which can be detrimental.

[@HvrriMusic]

u can read that part from the description "Humans are set at roughly 2500 - 3000 calories a day depending on your size. So if you spend your calorie “budget” on large bouts of exercise, the body compensates by not using as much energy on reproductive hormones and the immune system which can be detrimental. "

[@TheSchmuel]

@Linus There is a balance somewhere in there... We as civilized folk, are typically very sedentary most of the hours of a day. So exercise is good. However, if you were living off the land, walking, hunting, harvesting most of the day, you would not need an additional bout of intense exercise. Many top endurance athletes (runners, cyclists etc.) are sick a lot. They train so much that the body does not have extra calories to build the immune system. They also have hormone issues often. I am not a moderate person, but I am learning the beauty in balance...

[@henrikmadsen2176]

@@HvrriMusic Well spotted 👍 But it does not seem likely that the Hadzas highly active lifestyle should impair their hormonal system and their immune system (then they hardly would still be around). But the topic is VERY interesting!

[@law_wren]

@@henrikmadsen2176 It sounds like what they're positing is the consistency of an active lifestyle (such as the Hadza's) is normalizing for immune and hormonal function whereas the inconsistency of a largely sedentary lifestyle with compensatory major stressor activities (large bouts of exercise) is disruptive to those systems

[@gertch100]

These guys get too technical & scientific. All this ‘how calories work depending on if it’s a full moon, bs’.They try to put the science/evidence behind all their points, but most of it just doesn’t really ‘play’ in reality. If you exercise & eat a clean diet, you’ll maintain your weight & health

[@doriandantes7819]

>t. Brainlet

[@georgearnold841]

Yes, because two guys with far more knowledge than you about pretty much anything to do with diet, metabolism and exercise don't make any sense. But you do? It might be you're just thick.

[@Tatiacha]

and a term like "clean diet" is the problem no one agrees on the meaning of that phrase

[@loganw861]

We agree that although it’s not always necessary to dive into scientific detail to glean wisdom, it is useful when determining facts that run contrary to common sense or consensus. For example: humans didn’t evolve eating processed sugar and seed oils but now that many cultures do they suffer from many chronic diseases. Simple wisdom: Don’t eat processed food. Now enter the food industry claiming that eating loads of spinach, fruit & no meat will heal you- backed by “”science.”” Seems it’s common sense or at least scientific consensus to eat Vegan? These doctors need to argue with good, detailed science to stand a chance against the myriad of bad studies propagated by “” science”” these days. Lastly, Paul, peter from hyper-lipid and Dave Keto, ect... have used this detailed science strategy to exonerate LDL, keto, & animal based foods while pointing towards the actual cause, polyunsaturated aka “””heart healthy””” oils, oxidized ldl, ect as the causes for metabolic syndrome, diabetes & heart disease.

[@solb101]

Just eat whole organic foods like the Hudza and don’t be greedy

[@zachuttke]

CICO

[@georgearnold841]

Yeah, nope.

[@zachuttke]

@@georgearnold841 yeah, CICO. Very simple.

[@Marx1963]

Calories are not created equal .you can Eat 2000 calories of twinkles a day . I’ll eat 2000 cal of meat a day .I’m sure body composition will be different

[@zachuttke]

@@Marx1963 yeah of course, you’re arguing something completely separate.

[@doeswaterfloat]

Just going to add in here and say that Zach Uttke is correct, and anyone who disagrees with CICO is wrong. Calories In < Calories Out = Weight Loss. You now have the answer to lose weight, don’t over complicate it.

[@donnayoung9215]

Get to the point .

[@johncalla2151]

People actually believe in evolution?

[@johncalla2151]

@Rob Thompson Exhilarating, isn't it?