You Can Copy Anything: Chinese Bolt Action M1 Carbine

[@mishas_guns]

Never knew how badly I needed a bolt action .30 carbine until seeing this video

[@herrcobblermachen]

Preach Misha :)

[@peterb22084]

shocking , Trudeau and his clones would have that banned here in Canada.

[@patrickshaw8595]

I had a .30 carbine Ruger Blackhawk 8" Barrel and it was a flat-shooting hard-hitting pistol. I write to tell you that the weapon R A N G after you fired a full-power round. I hand loaded a lot back then. Everything from cast lead slugs in .30 carbine to shotshell capsules. They didn't make it ring but good old milspec ball ammo sure did every time.

[@hakansoderholm6514]

Exaktly My toughts 🙂 Perferct litle hunting rifle, that still have some punch in it.

[@Film21Productions]

Hello Misha

[@meadball1]

The reciever marks on this gun are the equivalent to Americans with tattoos written in Chinese or Japanese that look cool, but when translated, say "Chicken Noodle Soup"

[@ForgottenWeapons]

Exactly

[@johnbarnes6832]

@@ForgottenWeapons Robin Williams did a great bit on the same subject-looked impressive but when translated say "ass monkey makes deliveries at such and such a time."

[@wiliam74984]

The guy who was making that gun probably asked for someone to give him the stamp with white people writing. There's a good chance that the gunsmith involved didn't realise that, unlike Chinese and Japanese, English and German writing looks the same but actually isn't. Chinese writing and most Japanese writing uses the same characters, so a short phrase on a gun will have the same meaning but different pronunciations.

[@すどにむ]

@@wiliam74984 China and Japan don't have much contacts, so fake Japanese in Chinese letter shape(or vice versa) is immediately noticeable too

[@axmajpayne]

Idiot: "Check out my new tattoo!" New tattoo: 馬鹿外人

[@MichaelROC]

It's interesting to see Chinese gunsmith shifted from BROWNINGSBROWNIGSBROWNINGS to WAFFENFAB OBERNORF. That's some international politics.

[@lancerevell5979]

Haha! Say "Browningsbrowningsbrownings" like that, and the ghost of St. John Browning appears to chastise those taking his name in vain. 😅

[@AshleyPomeroy]

I miss Wauser Waffenfbeiknmaser Obncefreskenfkr. Even after their chief engraver suffered a stroke, they continued to employ him.

[@jic1]

I'm sure some of those warlord pistols Ian's made videos on had both Mauser and FN markings.

[@TeaAddictzzz_8841]

This is funny to me because my parents named me after him, yes the gun inventor.​@@lancerevell5979

[@hummel6364]

@@lancerevell5979 Browning was a heretic, not a saint. Although yes, he was a decent gun design engineer.

[@DoomyMacDoomface]

Of course the gunsmith used the markings off of a Mauser broom handle. Those indecipherable characters are almost magic to a Chinese warlord.

[@manchagojohnsonmanchago6367]

Yes people also marked knives and swords with these random calibre marking and serial numbers on the blades in the interwar period

[@frankbrowning328]

HA HA HA! That was really funny! It probably wouldn't be as effective without the magic words

[@ayebraine]

@@frankbrowning328 I mean I shudder to think how Western gunsmiths would butcher hyeroplyphics if they tried to copy them. It would probably make for entire hilarious phrases

[@frankbrowning328]

@@ayebraine I bet you're right.

[@Swindle1984]

Broomhandles are still magic to the Chinese. They based the Type 80 machine pistol, adopted in 1980, on it. It was only issued to special forces and as a prestige weapon to high ranking officers.

[@parrotraiser6541]

The best story I know about copying text without understanding it was a woman who knitted a sweater with characters she'd seen in a Chinese restaurant. When a Chinese-literate friend saw it,he laughed and told her it meant "This dish is cheap but delicious".

[@LiveFreeOrDieDH]

Maybe that was intentional 😉

[@_ArsNova]

I wonder how many clueless Americans have chinese character tattoos like this.

[@weswolever7477]

🥹😅😂🤣🥲

[@SouthernGround]

More than you think including my stupid brother-inlaw😆​@@_ArsNova

[@tenchraven]

@@_ArsNova The majority of them that have more than one character. There are a few Chinese and Japanese characters that have well known to the West meanings, but if someone has more than one in a row, or anything in the phonetic alphabets, almost certainly funny.

[@HovardUndem22]

Some warlord had a pile of .30 Carbine ammo and mags along with troops used to M88 rifles.

[@dmchang1009]

Not the warlords. Only a few units were issued M1 Carbine during WW2.

[@queuedjar4578]

@@dmchang1009 That doesn't mean the warlords might have "strategically acquired" a shipment of carbines regardless.

[@mothmagic1]

That seems like a logical conclusion which is one good reason why it's probably totally incorrect.

[@BobSmith-dk8nw]

@@dmchang1009 Stilwell trained and equipped several divisions of Chinese Troops flown in to India to fight the Japanese in Burma. They had Artillery - why not Carbines? .

[@Matt_The_Hugenot]

The Mukden arsenal manufactured M1 carbines on imported tooling in 1949. Seems logical this is a copy of one of those.

[@lukebarrow8807]

Now I really want a bolt action m1 carbine

[@Pepsiphopia]

Its almost like CZ Brno 527 in 7.62x39. The same kinda formfactor

[@Meyer-gp7nq]

Dawg same

[@jmpetersrn]

So many toys, so little money.

[@geodkyt]

IKR?

[@drollyankee42069]

@Pepsiphopia I’m so pissed they got discontinued

[@hemisphere22]

I question the authenticity. If it isn't marked "Wauser" or the very rare and exclusive "Brownings Brownings Brownings" you might just have a fake.

[@LeeviHokka126]

What's there to question? Ian has already made clear that it's a Chinese copy that's likely made during the Second Chinese Civil War. There's nothing authentic about the carbine except that it's authentically Chinese made.

[@misombra]

Wesson & Smith

[@hemisphere22]

@@misombra You mean Messon & Zmith? Those things are unicorns. They are the only bolt actions with a 3 round burst mode. You fire one bullet but when the bullet hits the target it does a 180° turn, goes through the target again, does another 180° turn and goes through a third time. Amazing.

[@misombra]

@@hemisphere22 try to figure out where the joke got killed and don't do that anymore

[@ichbinpotato25]

A fake fake (?

[@richardjames1812]

This is EXACTLY what Forgotten Weapons is all about! I mean, I like this channel covering the M1911A1 or Uzi as much as the next guy, but a bolt action M1 Carbine is the real deal.

[@jentegeeraerts1119]

Yeah I saw the thumbnail and just thought "what the fuck"

[@benniotto]

As someone who lives in Taiwan, and has seen plenty of silly English typos on shirts and signs. I can assure everyone that the spirit of “WAFFENFAB OBERNORFF” is still alive and kicking in the glorious ROC.

[@madengineer9072]

That was my initial wut with the thumbnail too, I was wondering why it said "Chinese copy" but had the Taiwanese flag, but the dating then makes this make perfect sense for it being under the Flag of the Republic of China.

[@coyoteodie4458]

If that's not a band name. You better start one!

[@grammar_shark]

"Can we get M1 carbine?" "We have M1 carbine at home."

[@jfangm]

M1 Carbine at home: *sunglasses*

[@TheFatNooblet]

We have Temu M1 carbine

[@Mistah_Boombastic_BiggieCheese]

How can this both be cursed but also logical?

[@gustavgnoettgen]

Because it's Star Trek

[@robertfarmer8372]

It's only cursed because it's made in China....you know, like 75% of everything in your house! 😅

[@jic1]

Except for the spurious German markings, it doesn't seem particularly cursed to me. Assuming it's both safe and usefully accurate, it would be a nice, handy sub-300 yard carbine, just like its inspiration. The only problem is the relatively low rate of fire because it's a bolt-action, but if your opponents also have bolt-actions, that's less of an issue.

[@LuisNunes-ps4sl]

I don't think it's cursed at all, it's a very logical and practical kludge. It even looks well made. Very good example of a "parts bin" carbine.

[@tenhundredkills]

Cursed? Nah! I've seen plenty worse kit guns. Besides, the pseudo-German markings are funny!

[@navywolf1753]

Worth noting that this rifle actually has, functionally, two locking lugs. The main lug is as shown, and the bolt handle itself appears to serve as a safety lug.

[@jeepman19]

Henry better take notes. This is the homesteader rifle we wanted

[@HossGreeley]

I've always wondered at the absence of single-shot and manually operated repeaters in.30 Carbine. Modern-day replacement for the .32-20 lever guns.

[@jic1]

@@HossGreeley In a single-shot or manually-operated rifle, .30 Carbine is just .357 Magnum with less available commercial loadings.

[@ThubanDraconis]

How about a lever action .30 carbine that feeds from an M1 Carbine box magazine? Henry could do that. Make it as light and small as the M1 carbine and I think it would sell.

[@michaeldoe4805]

Get the 327 federal magnum lever action. 327 Fed Mag is pretty much same as 30 carbine, just a straight wall rimmed modern version. More variety for bullet selection.

[@stephentthomas]

😂😂😂

[@FrozenElysium]

I see temu is getting into the gun game fun!

[@Poooghost]

Haha ya beat me to it 🤣

[@inhohvh7850]

meanwhile, gen 6 fighters above your house

[@Elatenl]

@@inhohvh7850 They literally stole the F35 blueprints and copied the F35

[@80krauser]

@@inhohvh7850Gen 6 fighters are so last week. It’s autonomous anti-grav drones now.

[@WayStedYou]

Far too high quality for Temu

[@maciekr1989]

Next episode : MG34 bolt action.

[@rodrigodepierola]

Be careful what you wish for...

[@EarlHildebrandt]

The "Ban-state Buzzsaw," a straight-pull rifle made for kings.

[@KR-hg8be]

Lever action mg34

[@George_Doc]

Pump action

[@garyneilson1833]

Toggle action MG42

[@6rasta6bhoy6]

Nobody: Chinese Civil War era gunsmiths: what if the Gewehr 88 and the M1 carbine f*cked??

[@Nikolai1939]

Lmao

[@magisterrleth3129]

They'd make a beautiful baby, as it turns out. This might be my favorite Chinese knock-off gun to date.

[@LeminskiTankscor]

Also. Fallout modders: you know what you have to do.

[@jameslawrie3807]

I always said the M1 should replace that horrid 'assault rifle' in FO4

[@LeminskiTankscor]

@@jameslawrie3807 Would make more sense design wise yes! .45 is reasonable, and a .38 mod is believable. The .308 mod would turn it into an M14 :D

[@molanohouse]

​​@@jameslawrie3807 I'd say that something like the Service Rilfe (M16A1) should be the better replacement

[@jameslawrie3807]

@@molanohouse I don't think it's really 'Atompunk 1950s' being more a mid sixties gun.

[@badideagenerator2315]

​@@jameslawrie3807 m16's totally fit in fallout. There's guns from the 90's in fallout 1 and 2

[@Aikibiker1]

Looks like a good "walking around in the woods" gun. Light, handy, powerful enough for varmints of the 2 or 4 legged variety, and presumably cheap. I would not be surprised if a modern version sold well. I think the major thing would be to keep it cheap.

[@thunderzap2]

Sadly there's basically no market for anything in .30 Carbine, plus no good magazines.

[@visual7504]

Scout bolt action carbines in 5.56 do exist

[@P_RO_]

@@visual7504 Cub Scout caliber. In time they can graduate and move up to a 308 then on achieving Eagle status a 300 Win Mag is preferred

[@paulbarthol8372]

Polymer stock, action and barrel

[@JD-tn5lz]

It's called a scout gun under idiotic modern terminology. Essentially it's about the same size and operation as a CZ527(?, I'd have to open my gunsafe to verify) in 7.62x39, except...workmanship.

[@danielhardy8693]

*Throws money at screen* I didn't even know I needed one of these.

[@thenoobgameplays]

Bolt action kalashnikov: "finally, an worthy opponent. Our battle will be legendary"

[@blue_eye_skull1822]

No joke, there's a video of a AK, Frankensteinedwith a ww2 mauser .something from Pakistan or Kyber pass I believe.....it exists.

[@woltews]

I could see a modern market for this kind of thing in places where you are not allowed semi automatics but want the M1 carbine cartridge and form factor

[@lylesouthwell5826]

Yes! I would totally buy one here In Australia, although, I want the genuine Chinese one. Not some knockoff, copy.

[@woltews]

@@lylesouthwell5826 so you don't want a chines knok off of a chines gun ?

[@lylesouthwell5826]

@@woltews Exactly! I want the genuine Chinese knock off, not the Chinese knock of the Chinese knock off. 😂 On a serious note it did start my mind turning on how I could make one here in AU from American parts. I could import everything bar the action. Then I just need to figure out what kind of bolt action to modify to suit that magazine and barrel that would look somewhat true to the era. Maybe Carcano as they are cheap and easy to acquire . . . It would be a sweet little gun to use in the bush and a cool conversation piece at the range . . .

[@woltews]

@@lylesouthwell5826 CZ did something similar a while back but can not remember what it was called

[@laveroflove]

I live in Iowa, I could have about whatever I want. But I want this! There are so many cool single shots they could make in modern calibers and they would make a ton of money.

[@StrimClocks]

So this explains why the US had the M1 Carbine in WW2. Carbine Williams saw the Chinese using this in 1948, and he said, "that would have been a really useful weapon to have had in WW2. So he took one, time traveled back to 1942, and made it semi-auto. Fascinating. All jokes aside, that is a really awesome looking copy of an M1 Carbine. It is super cool.

[@thefunksbeats]

M1 carbine with Spanish destroyer vibes 😅

[@tarmaque]

It actually looks better made than my Destroyer Carbine.

[@richardsolberg4047]

@@tarmaque Have one , agree .

[@gilmour6754]

These kinds of videos are some of my favs. I still remember that great video you did on that cool but sketchy 1911 made by some vietnamese guy with what was probably just hand tools. Very cool stuff!

[@tehlurfry679]

Me in 1947 China: "That was fun, can we do lever action next?"

[@LuisNunes-ps4sl]

👍👍😅😅😅😅

[@tehlurfry679]

@LuisNunes-ps4sl .30-30 WIN. lever action M1 Carbine. Whether with GoFundMe or w.e we need to make this happen lol

[@johnlowe37]

Marlin in 1955: Here ya go!

[@tehlurfry679]

@@johnlowe37 ive been trying for 20 mins, cant seem to find a picture of a lever action M1 Carbine, let alone from Marlin🤷‍♂️

[@duanequam7709]

I can always expect you to showcase some i have never seen much less never heard of. You are my favorite person to follow on anything firearms related. Thanks Ian humongous job.

[@Mustard_Face]

This is truly the “M1 Carbine we have at home”

[@HunterTN]

The oiler/sling combo looks exactly like what you'd see on a Bavarian carbine. The Germans didn't use the sling keeper oiler, they were issued their K98 cleaning kits and used small plastic rods in place of the oiler. The Germans also tended to file a notch in the peep sights to better replicate the K98 sight picture.

[@randymagnum143]

The M1 carbine used the oiler as a sling retainer.

[@zanegandini5350]

@@randymagnum143 I have a first-generation Universal M1 Carbine and they just put a metal rod where the oiler would go. It was the same idea as the wooden dowel used on this Chinese copy, but a little more professional-looking.

[@Royce16727]

What a neat little copy. It probably would make a pretty good patrol rifle.

[@kuebby]

I wish we could have an interview with the dude that crafted that. So enterprising. I love the cargo craft parts of these mysteries too--the copied writing, etc.

[@Menace-Mikey]

I absolutely adore these more hand made copy guns that are just iffy. Its amazing and I hope we see more in the future

[@elektro3000]

I mean if the barrel is actually any good (chambered, bored, and rifled properly) then a short, lightweight .30 carbine bolt action fed by 15 round detachable box mags actually looks like an excellent multi-purpose rifle for the late 1940s to early 1950s. If we didn't know it's "supposed to be" semiauto or select fire and it didn't say "WAFFENFAB OBERNDORF" we'd probably be talking about what a great rifle it was in-period. I would really prefer the aperture sights, though.

[@paulo5501]

Good morning Ian. Thank you for bringing these fantastic facts to light. Congratulations from Brazil.

[@Pattern51lover]

I literally went looking for exactly this idea online the other day and didn’t find anything on the concept. Thank you Gun Jesus!

[@MustangCowboy.1]

That's a lot of design, engineering and machining for just one or two weapons. The 30 M1 carbine round is very effective within its design envelope.

[@manchagojohnsonmanchago6367]

These are made almost entirely by hand. In western china in Gansu province such things were made often

[@provenancemachining]

@@manchagojohnsonmanchago6367 Not to mention a bolt action system is significantly easier to do by hand than factoring in a gas system, and the Gewehr 88's single locking lug mechanism is about as simple as it's going to get as well as something the Chinese were very familiar with already in copying. I'm more surprised they managed to ream a chamber for 30 carbine.

[@FightCain]

Honestly, looks pretty neat. The shape of an M1 and the functionality of a cheap bolt action rifle.

[@jugantic4021]

Mauser M1 carabine! I love it!!!

[@CharlesAhner]

Or it's half-brother...Wauser. 😉

[@budrubert3120]

Fun fact: Abe Siederman at Universal made at least one bolt-action M1 Carbine, but the stock and sights were much more of a sporting configuration. The receiver was also much closer to a standard M1 Carbine. The bolt was basically standard, but the handle would rotate it out of lock instead of an op-rod. Weird little gun.

[@johnpatrickmcp]

Reminds me of the Universal Pump Carbine in .44 Mag that is basically just a Pump Action M1 Carbine.

[@tranwc]

I had a wood and metal version of one of those in the 80s. Even had a sling. The magazine and stock was wood, but the bolt action actually opened and closed.

[@teierayui]

Reminds me of Company of Heroes 3's animation bug, they use manual bolt animations on the US paratroopers with m1 carbine and it was hilarious. I believe you still can find a gif showing about it.

[@mopargm9329]

Very awesome thank you for posting! I have never seen a bolt action m1 carbine. I did have an IBM USA made WW2 era semi auto version. This is really cool and thanks for sharing this absolute gem😍

[@johnbuckner2200]

That would be a really nice gun to bring back since there is a company making 22rcal M1’s. Something different to collect.

[@jurealeksejev3568]

I remember seeing a US war film (set either in WW2 Pacific theatre or Korea, can't remember) where one of the actors had to "shoot" his M1 carbine as a straight pull bolt action, because the blank rounds couldn't cycle it.

[@marks1638]

A friend of mine (long since passed away from Agent Orange exposure) did multiple tours in Far East, including Vietnam. He was a big aficionado of unusual guns. He brought back many collectables from various tours (he was at Diem Bien Phu as an observer for the newly created Special Forces (later called the Green Berets). He obviously made it out before things went completely to s**t. But during that tour and in his later tours he picked up all kinds of weird firearms (please don't ask how he got them stateside). He had everything from handmade guns to factory made models of unusual origin. One gun was even a converted WWII German K98 who someone (in Vietnam he thought) attempted to make semi-auto (really unusual gas system with an adaptor on the barrel end and under the modified stock) with a modified AK magazine in 7.62x39. Not sure if it worked and no one was brave enough to fire it. However, nowhere in his collection was there a bolt action M1 Carbine.

[@AmyCherryLMAO]

he probably mailed the guns back home piece by piece

[@viceadmiralcongo]

Honestly "gas trap K98 that feeds AK mags" sounds like it might've been a Chiang Kai Shek semiauto that was later bubba'd in Vietnam.

[@michaelguerin56]

Thank you. Nice little piece.

[@dannyism1854]

Actually... there is a German M1 carbine reproduction by Erma, kind of... It's semi-automatic and chambered for .22 LR.

[@russbilzing5348]

I had one. Upon disassembly, the sear lever would fall off and if not reconnected, would allow for rapid depletion of the contents of the magazine. It finally lost the front sight and burned up in a trailer fire.

[@adorp]

@@russbilzing5348 damn... You lost a gun with that capability? It hurts.

[@dannyism1854]

@@russbilzing5348 they are not rare at all in Europe. Our local gun store has racks of them and can't get rid of them... Some have factory threaded barrels with thread protectors and all. Some are scoped. Those Erma`s are actually very well made guns, for a plinker or training rifle from the 70's that is.

[@mmdnarayanan]

I think a series or big variety video highlighting gun forgeries could be an interesting hit

[@frankbrowning328]

It's so strange I can't help but like it. If I saw this floating around a gun show and the price was low, I'd bring it home

[@jakevelasco4072]

As someone who’s been at a swap meet in Orange County, California, this weapon reminds me of those action figure sets that people sell where it contains Batman, Superman, Mr Incredible, and Captain America for good measure

[@bacarnal]

It also looks to lock on the bolt handle which would make it a two lug.

[@johnfisk811]

Which would make sense of it is functionally based on the Gewehr 88 and cosmetically the M1 Carbine. Seems very practical and well made.

[@johnwillis4706]

I've got one of these I bought from an estate sale twenty years ago. I paid $20 for it and thought for quite a while it was a Kyber pass gun. I found out it was Chinese about 15 years ago. I cast the chamber and it is indeed chambered for.30 carbine. It does indeed function well and is pretty accurate for what it is, 2 inches at 100 yards is normal for it.

[@thebanditman5663]

Unironically bolt action .30 carbine scout rifle sounds perfect for a ranch gun.

[@ukaszwalczak1154]

Ngl, want. Is it less efficient than an M1? Yes. Is it cool? Also yes.

[@ListersHatsune]

I love this thing. I love the m1 carbine but it isn't exactly legal over here. It's light, handy and hard to make illegal unless you target the magazine. It's just a bit longer ranged than an average pcc but also is the very edge of having cross compatible ammunition for your side arm.

[@jmpetersrn]

Where are you?

[@ListersHatsune]

@@jmpetersrn Scotland

[@RedXlV]

That's exactly what I was thinking when I saw this. That it would be a nice gun for people in the UK and Australia, where semi-autos are all banned.

[@jic1]

@@RedXlV *Almost* all in the UK, they can still have .22 rimfire.

[@MikeVal1369]

A magazine fed, bolt action camp carbine? Might sell well these days with "assault rifles" drawing legislative ire.

[@josephknaak9034]

Yea, I don’t hate it.

[@lancerevell5979]

Yep, with better QC and finish, I'd buy one. 😎👍

[@rickbrasche8781]

this would be california legal right now.

[@jic1]

There's a fair amount of rifles on the market these days that meet that description, if you don't particularly care that it's chambered in .30 Carbine.

[@therideneverends1697]

People have been saying assault weapons would be banned for 20 years, stop worrying about it so much, its not going to happen too much money behind it

[@EnigmaticPenguin]

China was the original basement gunsmith. I love these quirky finds.

[@vizzy61]

this is actually really cool. i'd love to have something like this

[@RonOhio]

I wonder if the root of the bolt handle is providing any locking or if there is clearance.

[@marauder_-]

I believe that’s colloquially known as the varmint rifle in the American southwest

[@ciguatera780]

👀

[@yowser8780]

Modern day: Ruger 'American Ranch Rifle'.

[@deletdis6173]

Sunset Sarsaparilla

[@MrPh30]

Remind me of a Zastava m85 mini Mauser and the Spanish Destroyer carbine mixed together with some c96 influx

[@elijahsmith8597]

Now i wish ian could find the police marked thai type 91s so he can do his video on it since it would pair well with todays video

[@hummel6364]

2:08 actually it means "Deutsches Reichs-Patent und Ausländische Patente", which translates roughly to "Patented in the German Empire and Foreign Countries".

[@behindthespotlight7983]

Apparently most of the commentators here haven’t priced M1 .30 cal carbine rounds lately …

[@rockridgewoodshop]

Exactly.

[@jonasga]

I think this is a more brilliant idea than is immediately obvious. The M1 Carbine is a handy platform and was extremely popular. This is like the modern concept of many manufacturers adopting Glock mags for their PCCs. Leverage existing accessories, existing tooling, to make a companion gun. 100% would have loved to have one of these as an M1 Carbine owner.

[@pd-kx4qw]

I didn’t know I needed a bolt M1 carbine but now I do.

[@HunterShows]

Wouldn't the rounds in the magazine come out when you ejected the first?

[@ZaXBooster]

I saw this on my notifications And Just WTF Am I seeing!

[@unskilledlabor5229]

That's so cool. The marks make it even better.

[@HTacianas]

Finally a primary to go with the Vietnamese blowback 1911

[@colinsatx8836]

Man your videos are the best, all the meat, none of the fat. Thank you

[@johnholliday6324]

It would be nice to see newly manufactured ones, especially where you can't own the "evil assault weapons".

[@MichaelTysons]

How about this idea just don't give in😮

[@jarink1]

How about getting those AWBs ruled unconstitutional like they should be?

[@tim5114]

If only it was as easy to remove laws as it is to make them

[@sbreheny]

I'm not aware of any state in the US where you can't own an M1 Carbine. It makes no sense but even the people who support those bans seem unwilling to ban the Garand and M1 Carbine.

[@tim5114]

@@sbreheny the problem with the m1 carbine (liberals problems) is that it has a detachable magazine and is semi auto. Not only that if a gun has those 2 features anything else like a muzzle brake is an "EVIL FEATURE" states like NY are like this

[@aroniense21]

Damn, you can really get *anything* in China

[@6.5x55]

Now that done new with the 5.7 Johnson (MMJ Spitfire) would be a hoot!!

[@kali.deusadacriacao]

Can i copy your homework? Yes but change a bit

[@Koji44-]

The Chinese Warlord era is so fascinating. Never even knew about it until one of your videos along time ago.

[@Art-c4t]

No way no one could copy my handwtitting! 😂 hell not even I can! HNY Ian

[@douglaslain5962]

I have to admire the hustle if not the accuracy.

[@hoibit]

Are you sure that wasn't made in Elbonia?

[@theblackhand6485]

It is a gun, but what kinda gun. Man, what a rough quality this is.

[@TimMcCann-f8l]

Only Ian could find that unicorn.

[@hanqi8532]

Hi Ian， wish you would have the opportunity to introduce more on Chinese firearm. There is one types of SMG I'm particularly interested which is the type79, I expect it is the only SMG largely equip in the world by using piston short stroke structure, and it is with tremendous light weight and high firing rate, also it looks like a cute mini AK

[@Bob-xv6un]

Looks like a varmint rifle for Fallout New Vegas.

[@ytsucksrightnow]

You beat me there

[@pizza-for-mountains]

my goodness, is that what the varmint rifle is based on?? i doubt it (i haven't done any research) but that would be hilarious if some weapon designer just happened to know about bolt action m1 carbines

[@PiousHeathen]

It's always fascinating to see these kinds of... "bespoke" knock-offs from the China, and would love to not only see more from there, but also from other regions like the Kyper Pass guns that have been featured on other episodes. More please!

[@FoxHawk-303]

That just seems like a lovely little plinker

[@ogilkes1]

Presumably, given the stamps, the 'factory' net from producing C96 copies to these.

[@jessclark9725]

This thing is so cute and goofy, I caught myself grinning at the video like I was watching puppies playing

[@tjmueller2592]

would definitely be a neat addition to the collection.

[@calebdoner]

I wonder if that started as a damaged or partial M1 that was "restored" to limited functionality.

[@ForgottenWeapons]

No, it did not.

[@Williestyle-RobotechxMacross-x]

Just looking at the structure and surface, this "M1 carbine" looks like it was intentionally built this way from the start.

[@clydegreenehaywoodco]

That is super super cool. I'm torn between this one and the trapdoor 30-40 kraq/ trapdoor shotgun as the coolest gun you have had on the channel

[@dawsonfradin9071]

This thing is awesome on so many levels. It would be pretty cool if a company tried making new versions of these, though I don't see .30 Carbine coming back anytime soon.

[@Willy_Tepes]

300 Blackout

[@666toysoldier]

9mm, .45acp, even .380acp.

[@JerryEricsson]

Back when the gun ban was in effect I figured we should try and change the SKS from semi auto to pump like the 12 gauges or the old slide action 22's that were once very popular. Maybe a pump AR or AK?

[@kennethstaszak9990]

@@JerryEricsson I saw pictures of a pump AK. May have been Romanian.

[@reisen-5970]

That bolt is very similar to the Mosin

[@Ananonymousguy-nk9oj]

If it had an integrated suppressor or a threaded barrel to attach one, it would actually be a great commando/scout gun

[@edwardjensen1049]

Now that was a cool forgotten weapon.

[@armisteadab]

I'd love a bolt action in 30 carbine.

[@VacuousCat]

Just caught up with this channel and here's another ROC gun.

[@kilppa]

The markings are so funny. I guess the manufacturer just figured that any western text would give the gun some air of legitimacy.

[@RedXlV]

That's exactly how it went in China. Western guns were perceived as higher-quality, but very few Chinese people knew what the symbols and Latin alphabet text actually *meant.* So the amusing typos ("Wauser", etc) and nonsense text didn't automatically alert them that it's a copy.

[@iskandartaib]

One wonders why .30 Carbine didn't get used more often - everyone was looking for intermediate power cartridges for the new fangled assault rifles, I suppose the M2 came fairly close to being one.

[@rogerlafrance6355]

Even before Vietnam, full size battle rifles were a problem for some Asians often 5 foot tall or shorter. One reason AK was so popular.

[@tommiturmiola3682]

Yeah! Would have been perfectly reasonable weapon for many uses in post WW2 china. But SKS was even more so.

[@johnfisk811]

The British troops in the Dhofar campaign had to work hard to persuade the ex Adoo local recruits that the SLR was a superior weapon to the AK47 the communists were providing for the Adoo. The AK being a better fit to the slender short locals than the full power, weight and size of the SLR. They were convinced once they had see the reach and impact of the SLR. The Iranians there were not going to give arms to anyone.