YOU CAN'T FILM HERE, IT'S PRIVATE HOME OFFICE PROPERTY!!!! - Dungavel IRC 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿

[@Teknotion]

Shit me, Charlie's Angels have let themselves go a bit...

[@johnbratley6926]

At six million pounds a DAY for accommodation plus another one and quarter for security for these mainly illegal economic migrants, I think the public needs to know in detail where the money's going. I wonder how many Tory MP's have shares in MITIE, G4S, Serco etc ?

[@MrAndrewFarrow]

Are you suggesting that Ministers have arranged for Brexit to occur do G4S could guard the incoming migrants?

[@dutchdronedimension6703]

this goes higher up than UK law,,,,, ECHR European Convention for the Protection of Human Rights and Fundamental Freedoms ECHR) is a European treaty in which the human and civil rights of all residents of the member countries are laid down (article 10). allows filming in the public sector, even public in and government buildings , everything you can see from public (even if you point into private buildings and sites) you can photo and record it since November 4, 1950

[@gibsonms]

Should be walking on the other side of the road guys… facing oncoming traffic, not with it coming up behind you. Stay safe!

[@TheGwentAuditorTGA]

Thanks

[@theaussienurseflipper.8113]

Here in Australia, U walk down wrong side of the road. U can b fined.

[@jamesrawson6659]

Glad all charges dropped regarding the other thing. It’s great to see TGA and AY together and also with the rest of the clan on other vids. Love them all. Enjoyed the vid thank you for sharing

[@TheGwentAuditorTGA]

Thanks so much, more from Scotland to come

[@markosmith8037]

great result for the clearly vexatious charges. Very political and worrying.

[@4catsnow]

There is always a gravitational "thump" when the basic security personnel workerbee versed in the "make it up as you go along" program comes around a corner and smacks into the reality of the actual law..

[@danielgardecki1046]

*programme

[@nathansmith7153]

No they come smack into a time wasting goofball that has nothing better to do than play silly games with people wasting their time.

[@4catsnow]

@@nathansmith7153 They're the ones approaching the photographer..Then they find out the guy is using the actual law to tie their derrieres in a knot...that's the key ingredient in these video's...

[@nathansmith7153]

@@4catsnow So you are saying you support these argumentative demeaning scum know as frauditors wasting people's time for clicks on KZbin? That's pretty perverted.

[@gordonmurray3153]

Scots Law is not Yorkshire Law. Not a lot of folk south of the border seem to know that.

[@123gazs]

I visited this location, 5-6 years ago back, then you were able to drive right up to the gate, which has now changed over time. They don’t really get me any visitors from outside because of the location in the middle of nowhere, but it was interesting to see even the fact that girl saying it was illegal to film, which was hilarious to hear 😂

[@nathansmith7153]

SO you believe in antisocial frauditors being twats?

[@markbanner6473]

That guy was EX Forces pretty sure of that. Usually those types are spot on. Professional.

[@TheGwentAuditorTGA]

Seems like it

[@Gkofilms]

Perhaps you lot should be Politicians, if you understand the meaning

[@daviddoyle5291]

What you need to understand that with all retail going self service they need to find jobs for the young semiliterate and also train them as zoo keepers for the social unrest which is just around the corner and most of the population don't have a clue what the rulers are preparing for them.

[@stuartb4525]

I have a strong feeling that's is going to happen soon.

[@Leepercomm]

The old guy covered his badge. Must have somthing to hide. I wouldn't even bother talking to those that won't let tou see and record their ID.

[@guy4469]

my wife is 36 years old what is this big lump they have at the front my wife doesnt have that ,there smugelling cushions out of the prison .

[@NickLea]

At 4:20 you mention "Section 33 Criminal Justice Act 1972". This section gives the police the ability to arrest people who are wearing uniforms connected with political parties in premises that are open to the public. Prior to 1972 they could only arrest people in open places. This power for the police to arrest people does not provide any right for you to access any place you want.

[@mjb1957uk]

Section 33 of the Criminal Justice and Courts Act 1972 re-defines the definition of a Public Place in the Public Order act of 1936 ie 33 Extension of definition of “public place” in Public Order Act 1936. E+W+S. “Public place” includes any highway and any other premises or place to which at the material time the public have or are permitted to have access, whether on payment or otherwise ”. This in turn extends the area people can legally photograph and/or to these areas.

[@NickLea]

@@mjb1957uk I am afraid that you are mistaken when you say that this has anything to do with where people can film. As you say, all that S33 CJA1972 does it to alter a definition in the Public Order Act 1936. So you need to have a look at that Act to see what it is about. Section 1 of that Act reads:- "Subject as hereinafter provided, any person who in any public place or at any public meeting wears uniform signifying his association with any political organisation or with the promotion of any political object shall be guilty of an offence" Before the change in 1972, police could only arrest people if they were in an open space but not if they were on private premises. So the law changed to allow them to arrest people who were at meetings on private premises. None of this has anything at all to do with a right to film on private property.

[@mjb1957uk]

@@NickLea Suggest you read your comments again - you refer to Section 33 and then say this section gives Police the ability to arrest people in uniform etc. Sec 33 does not reference uniforms or political parties it simply re-defines the legal definition of a Public Place which, by implication, any member of the public can record or film in unless specifically prohibited under another Act. The founding stone of UK law is that you can do anything unless specifically prohibited.

[@NickLea]

@@mjb1957uk It DOES give the police the right to arrest people on private premises that they did not have before 1972. Read the Act. S33 redefines a "public place" purely for the purposes of the Public Order Act 1936 and nothing else.

[@tonyb1223]

@@mjb1957uk It has nothing to do with were you can or cannot take photographs, what it defines is as Nick has stated, where you can be arrested for committing a public order offence, if you actually look at section 9 of the 1936 POA, you will find that there is a part that defines a private place where you can be arrested for a public order offence. Don't be brain washed by auditors, the only piece of legislation that gives you any right to film is Article 10 of the 1998 Human Rights Act, and this lot break that all the time.

[@Ubique2927]

This PRIVATE government property thing needs to be tested in the courts. Tax payer funded means PUBLIC property.

[@ThomasTelford-n9n]

Not in the UK

[@SteveSmithRangers]

Always glad to see you Guy's venturing North after all we're all part of the United Kingdom 🇬🇧 nice to see you'se , much respect love your audits 😊👍👊

[@topcat1358]

Well done guys. Scotland needs more auditors - especially for the cops! They act like they are the Stasi in a dictatorship of the SNP

[@TheGwentAuditorTGA]

Thank you, I’m sure we’ll go back in the future. We plan to do Jersey and the Isle of Man as well

[@TheGwentAuditorTGA]

I’ve already been researching Jersey’s Laws

[@grannygear1001]

From across the Pond in New Hampshire. Scotland, how I well remember my trip there 50 years ago. I fell in love with your People and the land. One of my ancestor families was William Wallace who yelled the famous word, “Freedom!” I was unhappy to see the “unfreedom” attitude of these guards. But be careful, you do not want to do what our country administration authoritarian bureaucrats are doing in letting anyone in. The Mexican cartel buses pull up and unload the people who pass over the v border. We give them bus or plane tickets to were they want to go and housing and food vouchers. Meanwhile, our own homeless ranks grow. Even the city of New York is having big problems with these illegal undocumented immigrants. So, what is happening to Scotland and “freedom.” Will the people stand up to the freedom cry of William Wallace?

[@rm009z0858]

I'm from Scotland and immigrants and refugees have always been welcome in our country and still are. I live about eight miles from this detention centre at Dungavel and we've heard stories of mistreatment of detainees there which, if true, is unacceptable.

[@grannygear1001]

@@rm009z0858. Yes 👍

[@TheSadButMadLad]

14:40 The girl fails at trying to gaslight. Gaslighting only works when the receiving party is clueless. AY and TGA are not clueless. A detention centre might be classed as a form of prison and caught by the Prison Act. But filming a prison is not unlawful. Even being on prison grounds. Unless the prison is an open prison - which this obvious isn't as can be seen by the security fencing.

[@BG-ef8sk]

Wow kev saying other auditors giving good auditors a bad name 😂

[@TimHarkness-yi4vv]

That will be DJE MEDIA!

[@TheSadButMadLad]

8:00 That sign with the opening times is aimed at members of the public. Family and friends are not employees, staff or residents, they are anybody. The public.

[@guy4469]

Ive worked it out now my freind said theyve had 5 kids before they where 24 years old .4 DIFFERENT DADS

[@adrianbrowne7874]

Yes the honesty and sincerity of your intentions were made "abundantly clear" from the outset! So that coupled with your knowledge of accessibility rights meant that there really was "Nothing for anyone else here to worry about!!😊

[@TheGwentAuditorTGA]

Exactly. Thank you very much

[@adrianbrowne7874]

@@TheGwentAuditorTGA Yes undoubtedly! And Thankyou very much!!

[@johnancill7397]

That place is all show and no substance.

[@garrymcgurn8221]

Behind them council grit box

[@erikroberts1899]

Love it. "Amateur Documentary Makers?" Bit like I indulge in "Amateur Brain Surgery" Keep your cells busy.

[@geoffreythomas-cs1sk]

FOUR PEOPLE COME OUT TO SEE A CAMERA. I HAVE HEARD THAT SOME PARTS OF BRITAIN ARE BACKWARD BUT WHEN A CAMERA DISERVES SUCH A FASINATION BUT WHEN THEY FIND OUT ABOUT THE INTERNET IT WILL BLOW THEIR MIND.!

[@brendagilson934]

The two women came storming up like 2galleons in full sail, and not a lot to say😂

[@LorrieLogan]

Loving the lime green grass. 💚

[@PhyllisGlassup2TheBrim]

Can the company at *least* supply these women with uniforms which fit them? All of their trousers are 2 sizes too small.

[@LastPinster]

No shortage of foodstuffs at the detention center then 🙄

[@Monsoon-sd6vr]

I think you mentioned the fact that the Law in Scotland differs from England in that you have to give personal details if asked, where you referring to Prisons Officers ??? If "yes" then Mitre are a private company contracted by the Home Office - this doesnt mean they have all the powers of a Scotish prison officer - this needs checking with your Lawyers !!

[@BG-ef8sk]

It’s a shame they can’t remove Kevin from this country

[@patthewoodboy]

if they could there would be no immigrants either

[@ademolaadeleye3116]

Hi Kev & Sam welcome back to Scotland. Pronounced Dun - gay - val, as they say up here; 'haste ye back!'

[@TheGwentAuditorTGA]

@@ademolaadeleye3116 Thanks for the info

[@rokketron]

Immigration removal centre? Bet there's no gimmigrants there😅

[@markm3436]

Bet there's no removals either!

[@andrewcrouch2362]

The only one i can think of who goes to hostels and that would be dj e media only seen him on here since the last couple of months like hood video ok 👍

[@TheGwentAuditorTGA]

Thank you, we did a migrant hotel in Scotland too, had a conversation with a resident

[@andrewcrouch2362]

@@TheGwentAuditorTGA o right did you yer ok 👍

[@geoffisaac3511]

Removal Centre do they ever remove any from the country

[@daytona1212]

Why talk to a guy with no SIA badge on show? He can be anyone.

[@tkthebear984]

Good interaction on this video guys 🙂 Glad to hear that your charges have been dropped Kev. I couldn’t understand what those women were saying cos of their accents 😕 I wish you could have translated it into cockney 😂 Thanks for another great video guys. Keep them coming 😁👍

[@pipkins1972]

Wearing a mask, for your safety.

[@Leepercomm]

Four people for two guys with a camer. Must have thought you were some big threat that backup eas needed. Amazing....

[@DameEdna42]

It is difficult to understand why so many people believe you cannot photograph or film something you can legally see with your eyes. Could anyone explain?

[@SensibleCentrist]

14:16 lmfao why she got a mask on outside for 😂 Also AY still thicker than a Gurkha's Foreskin, he talks so much pish

[@Catmad65]

Why is that woman wearing a mask outside ? 😂 🐑

[@BouillaBased]

These four standing around doing nothing shows just how much waste there is just in paying wages for overstaffed facilities.

[@EdWeeks999]

You could have taken a drone straight over. No geo fence

[@TheGwentAuditorTGA]

I know, I didn’t say there was

[@EdWeeks999]

@@TheGwentAuditorTGA I think Derwentside in Durham has a yellow “privacy concern” marker on it. Random Outings went there👍🏻

[@TheGwentAuditorTGA]

@@EdWeeks999 That’s currently operated by Mitie Care+Custody too, but it’s being transferred to Serco soon

[@gibsonms]

7:21 - I doubt your stomach could handle it drinking it, but if you could handle drinking a bottle of bitters neat whilst walking round, then it would be interesting to see how they handle it… (s.191 (1) (d) Licensing Act 2003)

[@AD-53]

The face nappy one wanted a power trip 😂argument, she didn't like the friendly chat look at her body language

[@TheGwentAuditorTGA]

She did, she kept saying it was illegal, and we know it’s not

[@DavidMorgan-m9o]

An auditor that gives auditors a bad name is UKMTT.

[@boztec7187]

Yeah but he's funny as fuck. 🤣

[@NeathSpadge]

"Get back to work" 🙂 He does crack me up.

[@kennyjones3679]

No he's great he takes no lying Bullcrap.

[@Andy.H.]

Nice audit, and nice to hear good news

[@TheGwentAuditorTGA]

Thanks

[@GavTatu]

so give your names and details.... then carry on and audit even harder !

[@byMRTNjournals]

Welcome lads. Good to see some bigger auditors venturing north

[@TheGwentAuditorTGA]

Thanks man, was interesting to see how public officials react to a Camera

[@888ssss]

security boomers at 6 o'clock high...

[@jimroberts3268]

Well done trying a different tactic worked it's the best way to film what you want but if work's it good but I would not know if work's everywhere as there is some people it would not work nice to see security behaving themselves.

[@robertovers1863]

her career since leaving school, sit in her bedroom eating crisps and crying, pulling herself together, getting some tattoos, applying for jobs at kfc, mc donalds and a garage, back to eating more crisps, and then the big break through, security !

[@WAR-22]

Making him walk lol

[@LastPinster]

A lot of cars..

[@SensibleCentrist]

Wow not far from me!!

[@patsyhayman4264]

he stood still for a long time

[@taffdragon1]

fck me AY loves the sound of his own voice doesnt he lol.

[@patrickdaly2121]

Please can someone explain the meaning of the question ‘can I help you please’? Does it mean that they want to help you or does it mean ‘what are you doing here!

[@robinwbarrett]

Does he not know that it is the height of ignorance to shout at people. When approaching members of the public get off your arse and WALK to the person end then be respectful!

[@TheSadButMadLad]

15:47 Nice bit of gaslighting in return TGA. Quoting laws at stupid people either goes over the heads because they never go by the law or they start to realise that they can't pull the wool over your eyes and that you know what you are doing.

[@TheGwentAuditorTGA]

Yeah thank you, can’t expect very much intelligence from Mitie staff

[@TheSadButMadLad]

@@jophillips8230 Not having legal business doesn't make any difference. That's an American auditing thing. This is the UK. If they can't be bothered with the hassle why did they walk all the way and spout some nonsense. You are probably right about the women thinking about their tea break and that Sam & Kev would leave though.

[@TheSadButMadLad]

@@jophillips8230 Section 33 is just an example of the use of the term "public place". It occurs in many other places in legislation. It's a known legal term, defined by case law. It's main use to is define when an action becomes a crime (public place) and when the same action is not a crime (private place). However, it also means that the public use the place. And anywhere the public go, they can do anything they want that is lawful. Places can put up restrictions, but like the contracts between companies and individuals, notifications of such restrictions need to be fair and reasonable and advance notice must be given. It also must be borne in mind that no one ever reads signs, so putting up stupid restrictions that a reasonable person would not expect would be unfair and unenforceable.

[@TheSadButMadLad]

@@jophillips8230 All the UK is private property. There are many different types of property. Anywhere you go you are walking on private property. The key thing is what the owner is doing to keep it private and what society thinks is private. So gates and fences means not accessible to the public. Private land outside fencing, say a grass verge, just means that the owner doesn't care who walks on it. Society has conventions about where to go, so residential gardens are not walked on. But anywhere else is fair game - from nosey parkers to kids to auditors.

[@blobrana8515]

Good audit. The staff were friendly and professional.

[@TheGwentAuditorTGA]

Thank you

[@Bob-pm3rz]

Surprise ,Surprise the one wearing a face nappy , barking out commands to obey!

[@casper-cr3kz]

Wouldn't mind her barking orders at me 😂

[@irnbruman6684]

If you swing by dundee an audit with Irnbruman would ve funny wonder what they would say to a man wearing pants on his head (me) 😂😂😂

[@colettenkids3949]

Awww look how cute kev is 😉

[@ste1872]

It used to be an open jail my uncle finished his jail sentence at this when it was an open prison 👍🏻

[@TheGwentAuditorTGA]

Ah right, yeah I read something about that online

[@G58]

Only government employment could make a cardigan look sinister. How is it that these creatures always manage to convey the same dubious and incompetent vibes?

[@rogerbroadbelt3424]

I think Scotland has a right to roam legislation? There is strong a smell of Bradford, are they attempting to supply McDonalds?

[@phillipowens5380]

Secruity guard with no sia badge on show must be worn at all times when working during the shift pattern

[@TheGwentAuditorTGA]

He wasn’t security. He was a Detention Custody Officer for Mitie Care+Custody

[@MrLiquidator1]

So that's where Bananarama hang out

[@carlconner1166]

We the taxpayer pay for it and there wages

[@adamsina-vm3xo]

What a Beautiful place this could be Tourist Centre making Money. Instead of wasting tax payers money. migrant`s get rid Documents. Therefore can`t send them back. Put on a ship across to france. Go back the way they came.. A.Y. You going a bit soft.

[@johnauld9851]

What’s the channel that is mentioned as being hostile?

[@boztec7187]

Might be BBA. He's done a few of these immigrant hotels. Not sure.

[@jerrebrasfield4231]

They take good care of the grounds but one of the trucks looks like it was used to run I to somethind/someone

[@elusivemobile8226]

What do you film with? Equipment???

[@TheGwentAuditorTGA]

DJI Pocket 2

[@psychopaul508]

Kev gives good auditors a bad name

[@robtudor3785]

Too many deep fried mars bars.

[@kevinthomas5992]

She's wearing a face nappy 🤣🤣🤣😀 behave.

[@captainscarlett1]

3 frumpy girls and one old guy with nothing to say. Not a very satisfying fishing trip.

[@klashnacovak47]

Auditing is like acting. Really?

[@chrissollors6722]

Well the one Karen clueless within the law and peoples rights public photography public right of access payed for by the tax payer's 🙄 And the less said about immigration the better, shouldn't be HERE

[@TheGwentAuditorTGA]

Yeah it was a bit shocking

[@kennyjones3679]

Ignorant of laws people dont deserve rights.

[@resist.]

Come on TGA!

[@Lee3De]

And who’s the auditor he was about to name and shame??

[@TheGwentAuditorTGA]

I think it was DJE Media

[@davewarren2849]

Haven't got a clue

[@marcl3763]

is this G.B!!!!!

[@dancer5355]

Why not your filming us.

[@carlfama140]

He talks to much..lol

[@rangerchief8004]

Not a fan of most auditors but if one penny of taxpayers’ money is being spent to upkeep this area than film away.

[@TheGwentAuditorTGA]

Exactly, always film what we as taxpayers pay for

[@clivewalford3148]

Sorry to say It’s going to get worse

[@glastomole9570]

And still people persist with these silly useless paper masks😅 and outside too!???🤷‍♂️🤦‍♂️ When will it end🙄??????

[@markyharley]

* pronunciation

[@TheGwentAuditorTGA]

I know, I’m Welsh

[@resist.]

Yes AY-Come on!

[@leebiker1488]

Have nice holiday in scotland

[@TheGwentAuditorTGA]

Thanks

[@talpark8796]

🦬🇨🇦🤟

[@davewarren2849]

Another Muppet employee's

[@leebiker1488]

🤣💯👍👍👍

[@paulcarter8193]

How comes thay can film but the public can't. More retraining comes to mind.

[@torsandmors]

ock i du nooooo

[@TheGwentAuditorTGA]

Haha

[@TheGwentAuditorTGA]

Thanks for watching again Tors and Mors

[@jeremypritchard9058]

They hide behind masks