You Cringe You Lose | Wine About It

[@VincentDoesntSmoke]

The "audio listeners she fell" bit is so funny I love it.

[@Dell-ol6hb]

All the audio listeners bits kill me lmao

[@abstractfriends6722]

love it

[@theot6713]

I really appreciate qt representing the cringe girlies who did insanely cringe shit as teenagers for romantic partners

[@Its.Allyssa]

When I was 15 my high school sweetheart "proposed" to me with a $2 ring I bought and gave to him, I wore it for MONTHS 💀 The good news is that we are still together and grew past the cringe 😅

[@Dell-ol6hb]

@@Its.Allyssa aww that's equal parts cringy and adorable

[@brandontrammel4581]

​@@Its.Allyssa nice I love that

[@AgatheD]

She is all of us

[@spice7180]

@@Its.Allyssa Thats cute thooo

[@Yawning.]

I was arguing with someone on Twitter about the deep fake situation because they were victim-blaming and I told them my age. They said I was "too young to talk about this" but I've been sexualized I've been scared about people taking pictures up my skirt I've been asked by a boy to show my boobs and he would pay me. I'm too young to talk about something I've experienced. Women get sexualised no matter how young they are.

[@maccamachine]

Yeah don’t listen to anyone on Twitter….

[@Lena-zn4re]

Unfortunately most of twitter is a toxic place to be apart of. Sorry you had to experience that. It’s more pathetic when you realize that all the incels commenting that stuff would never be able to look you in the eye, much less say that shit to your face.

[@juniperslowed]

men dont realise girls have been dealing with this since. they. were. born. one of my uncles was begging me to kiss him (who i just met for the first time) at a family gathering in front of everyone when i was about 7-9 years old. it doesnt start when we turn 13 or 16. it can start as soon as you are born

[@0blivvy8]

You are so right! Most women were sexualized from the time we were girls, and I think many people don't realize it. I know it happened to me from a young age, then only became more frequent as I got older. I've always been mistaken for younger than my age too. You're never too young to have an opinion on something that affects you.

[@98loud]

tbf, they could've just been uncomfortable talking about porn with a minor. I know I would be no matter the context. Fuck em for victim blaming though

[@SableWind]

I'm pretty shocked that so much of the Wine About It audience is men, though it makes sense because of Twitch's demographics. That said, it kind of makes me happy. As a woman, I've spent most of my life seeing guys trivialize and dunk on women's conversations and interests. Cool to know there's so many guys out there watching what I consider to be extremely "feminine" content lol. I love Wine About It because it doesn't pander to male interests specifically, and it doesn't pull back to be more "acceptable to men," so to speak. Feels just like chatting with the girls, and it's cool to know there's so many guys nowadays who are open to listening.

[@xBoWxEclipse]

i figured it would be more women as well. im a male and love their content. have watched basically all of their eps and got their patreon. was really disappointed when they stopped doing Wine about it. they're really refreshing and interesting, also helpful to hear their pov since i definitely think of things differently so its nice to see a woman's pov to better understand

[@sovdee]

yeah echoing sonstip, it's a really nice podcast to get an entirely different view on things and a better idea of a lot of the things (struggles or otherwise) that women experience that I, as a man, haven't and won't experience. I feel like without the pod, I'd be a less empathetic individual.

[@tomjones8962]

In a way, it's a good thing that the majority of their audiences are men because now they get to listen to women talk about their perspectives and experiences. I have so many guy friends who would only listen to only male podcasters or male self-help gurus and wonder why they still don't understand women at all. I would tell them to just listen to women for once but of course they aren't interested. It's frustrating.

[@Dell-ol6hb]

For me Wine About It feels very comforting idk why I guess it just sorta reminds me of the type of conversations I'd have with my sisters

[@rynn6796]

@@Dell-ol6hb As a girl, this is the exact reason I watch The Yard. Usually I don’t go for that kind of content, but it reminds me of my brothers.

[@necromancia_]

Idk if I'm the only one, but I love that Wine About It posts on Wednesday because it's sandwiched right in between Fear& and The Yard. It's like a nice treat every day or two (P.S. all the homies love the Wine Time review segment)

[@epicgamer8189]

We love Wine Time in this household

[@dominoot2652]

I was thinking the same thing, like I can find a couple more things, I could have a thing to look forward to on each weekday

[@TheCodyK]

for me it's sandwiched perfectly between fear& n steakandeggs

[@Hopefull4you]

I was so hurt when they said how most people don't like the wine review. It's one of my favorite parts.

[@teresita7933]

the fact that qt only has one photo with her mom is making me sob rn

[@katelyn6306]

I genuinely don’t think you guys made a mistake by responding to it publicly. When I first heard about the situation, I thought, “well I doubt this is actually affecting any of these women too much since they gotta deal with this stuff all the time anyways”. Then I saw QT go live and give her statement, along with all the other tweets and statements given by the women of twitch, and my mind was completely changed. Im sure many other people went through the same mindset; it’s important to talk about how you were affected so the community can see the damage and learn from it!

[@flarebear5346]

100%. It forced me to think about how they felt

[@jacobbowman8776]

QT's 'cringe' is just the normal existence of being an awkward teen. It's incredibly cool to discuss it openly like this, and be this vulnerable.

[@fufumccuddlypoops5502]

+1

[@micah3657]

I still can’t get over how Maya’s background matches so good after seeing the actual set up lol

[@micah3657]

Also the deepfake discussion was so insightful and I’m glad that y’all talked through it

[@dumpsterfire902]

It's funny when Maya said she felt she wasn't being articulate, when she was speaking I was literally thinking about how well said her takes were.

[@Ty.ty.ty0]

Re: 77%male viewership I'm a straight male watching this content. I think metrics aside, having an audience at least partly made up of people like me is an overall positive thing. Growing up on the internet and on TV and movies, any woman I've ever seen on a screen who I don't know has been there because they've been an attractive person before consideration of their talents, skills, careers. This has inherently been the societal norm I've been used to. Realistically, if I remain ignorant to questioning this norm, my life doesn't necessarily change for the better or worse, so remaining indifferent as a bystander (i.e. the typical global male audience) changes nothing, and as such society sees no problem. I just wanted to say thank you for making it so clear just how much of an issue this is. Talking through your experiences as someone who will never experience it myself has made an impact on me as I've been able to see it through your perspectives. Thank you, you two are great P.s. penguin

[@fgcneko2850]

As a male Maya and QT talking about the deepfake situation made me look at it from a different angle i have never agreed with deepfakes but i was uneducated on how it actual impacts the people involved and i see the actual impact it can have on women more clearly now. Thank you

[@Aldridge517]

Did it make you "realize" that deepfake porn is comparable to rape, like Maya said? Because that is a lightyear stretch. Do you know how many people would create deepfake porn of themselves if western society decides it's the equivalent of rape? That would be the easiest payday ever.

[@SteveyBwoy24]

Absolutely 💯

[@spooks11]

Feel this. Also made me realize how messed it up it is that any famous woman's subreddit is primarily for sexualizing them. Like I didn't consider how messed up that is and in hindsight that's like how tf didn't I realize that but thanks to QT and Maya for making me realize that

[@SteveyBwoy24]

@@spooks11 say less 💯

[@kiwi659]

I read that as "I'm a male Maya" lol

[@viestihuuhaa7092]

I think that the DF segment was really important, made me understand the harmfulness way better

[@wolfloverify]

The example Maya gave for us men to imagine what a deep fake of our selves would feel like is really powerful.

[@xCheatah]

I feel like a real wine about it fan because I recognized some of the stories from today's episode (I mean this in a good way I like hearing them, even multiple times)

[@polarbearsss]

i feel this sm, i also find it rly entertaining (/gen) when they forget and react the same exact way to each other

[@lumberjackle6635]

interesting profile pic considering this episode's discussion...

[@xCheatah]

@@lumberjackle6635 oh my god you're right

[@ricecakesforlife]

small suggestion: it would be nice if you could talk about female friendships, how hard it is to make friends as an adult or tactics to do so, etc. would love to hear that as a change of pace from men and dating

[@bratcharm]

qt has talked about that a bit but not really in detail. i do think it'd be an easily relatable topic if she dove into it more

[@Dell-ol6hb]

it really is so hard to make meaningful friends once you're an adult

[@Michael_Shay]

listening to wine about it while working on my motorcycle like a real man B)

[@anoldsmellyunusedaccount]

all the hardass eastern european factory workers i work with who all listen to dance and jungle dont know i am listening to wine about it

[@liamobrien9451]

@@anoldsmellyunusedaccount Honestly, working in my fabrication shop with the fucking naked ladies calendar on the wall with coworkers making jokes about the secretary right after I've listened to an episode where they talk about how shit it is to be on the receiving end of it all makes me feel so bad, I hate it

[@anoldsmellyunusedaccount]

@@liamobrien9451 the same thing happened to me except my coworkers were making rape jokes

[@SableWind]

It means a lot that more guys are getting the message, good on ya'll for being better than guys in the past who would have joked along with them. For a long time women who complained about this stuff were considered nags or bitches, and so many women stayed silent even if they were uncomfortable. Or played along to be a pick me (like me tbh, many years ago).

[@anoldsmellyunusedaccount]

@@SableWind fr i have never been comfortable with "guy talk" in my life. Especially in as young as 7 years old in school, if you are emotionally mature in any way, it's gay as fuck and you are ridiculed and shamed for it. Fast forward 20 years later and the same people are adults behaving in the same way. Like i dont understand why we can't just be nice and normal without it being assumed that it is coupled with something malicious (whiteknighting/simping/brownnosing 🤮).

[@youtubeusername2254]

As a cis male fan (41yr old, father of 3), wow! Bravo! That was a brilliant analysis and explanation of the deep fake scandal. I'm blown away by the bravery, honesty and intelligence of both of you. What amazing role models for women (and men). Thank you.

[@Eric-gw2lx]

I feel like Maya does a really good at replying to negative comments in chat and turning them into to content

[@synchronium24]

She can count on unkleredd to make an (excessively) kind comment if chatters are being dicks.

[@dominicm3415]

I didn't even think of the fact that family, friends, etc would see those deepfakes and actually think its you, that's horrifying

[@nothennow]

“QT it’s like there’s a gun to your head and you’re telling us all of these things, because you’re SO cringe”

[@ninin11]

“I don’t… think i was groomed, but you tell me.” the best (worst) phrase of all time

[@jessedejute6118]

I'm one of the gays here! Hope your gay community grows because me and all my gay friends absolutely love your content! Both QT and Maya.

[@nat.m.portant9959]

Never stop complaining about wine, it is the best part of the podcast!

[@xCheatah]

whining about wine is such a classic wine about it

[@spicymilks9173]

Honestly I hated all those guys saying ‘oh it’s not that big of a deal, I wouldn’t care if it happened to me’ regarding the deepfake stuff. Women face so much more judgement for doing sexual acts. There are a lot more derogatory terms for women who are seen as sexually loose than there are to describe men who are, and it does do damage to a person’s reputation to be viewed in this way. Even if you support sex work, most of us can realize that women who do sex work often get treated as being ‘less valuable’ than women who don’t. Women content creators consciously make the decision not to do sexual content despite the fact that it would bring in massive profits because they are aware that this will define their professional reputation. This is important for women like Maya whose passion is conservation and owns an animal sanctuary because she needs to be viewed in a professional business sense in order to pursue her passion. QT is right when she said girl’s are taught early on that their value stems from their bodies, and we’re told it’s important for us to be seen are ‘clean’ ‘pure’ and ‘chaste’ in order for anybody to love us or even respect us as human beings. To have someone just completely defy these women’s autonomy and take their self image and place them in sexual scenarios they never consented to for millions to see is disgusting. So, for these guys to be so nonchalant about it was deeply frustrating, because they just can’t understand. They don’t understand what it feels like to not be taken seriously as a person because you’re only viewed as a means to achieve sexual gratification. They don’t understand what it’s like to constantly be told by parents to cover up their body because people might take advantage of them. They don’t understand the feeling of being seen as less because you had sex once. They don’t understand the feeling of shame so many women feel for even just possessing a women’s body. Yes, you can join the conversation, and your input is important, but don’t tell the women how to feel about it.

[@chriscarroll1422]

I watched a girl that I loved who lost herself due to one video of her having drunk sex with a man posted to the internet. And she killed herself with alcohol there is no way to quantify the numbers of dead women from male objectification and it all makes me sad

[@fruity_tooty1412]

It hurts to hear about stuff like this, sorry bro. Thanks for sharing something as painful as that, pain doesn’t need to be hidden and it’s sad how most people think they need to hide it

[@zzeroara9511]

I seriously couldn't agree more, If I could truly drill into people's brains just how many women have died or been severely changed for the worst because men are egomaniacal cunts....I think they'd be on our side.

[@Throzen]

the audio is so much better than it used to be, this new format is an improvement overall :D and the timing is perfect for podcast releases

[@attabooii]

Just letting you know QT, I'm a bi girl who watches you, so there are at least some gays who watch this ♥️ 🐧

[@bakicci]

Ayy me too!

[@daisy5497]

I'm a lesbian so it's nice to see more queer people who are wine about it fans too 💜

[@aba.aba.]

the bisexuals love wine about it (myself included)

[@laluna333]

qt especially has such a niche audience of ex religious gay girls LOL

[@AWildCellist]

❤️❤️

[@bl00dzee]

QT, in my opinion, I don’t believe the best thing to do when negative things happen is to be like “I made the mistake of…” and “never doing this again now I learned my lesson” when it’s not what you did that caused the “drama” but the toxic community that caused it. The fact that Reddit incels cannot understand consent and the difference between fansly and deepfakes, or that they cannot sympathize with you crying on stream after the traumatic experience you went through, doesn’t mean that moving forward you should not have a fansly sponsorship or express your feelings when you feel like it. Yeah, it’d be easier to be as least controversial as possible, and if that’s what you need for your mental health, then fuck what I’m saying. But I do think that you made the right call each time. Remember, we’re living in a time where misogyny is making a comeback due to Andre Tate, Adin Ross, etc..The vast majority of your fans honestly don’t take the time of the day to show direct support on Twitter, or comment on Reddit or KZbin. So just please remember that fact. Even a Reddit thread with 5000 comments hating you is fucking nothing compared to the millions that watched the Streamer Awards and loved it.

[@likeavendettata]

Completely agree. Unfortunately the small groups have the larger voices. But it's not actually what the majority of people think.

[@thejobbernowl]

This. Does livesteamfail bros truly care about ThE ChILDrEN? No, of course not. It's false equivalency for the purpose of making waves. They're pathetic.

[@loune3799]

SAY IT LOUDER FOR THOSE IN THE BACK

[@kabiedotjpg5683]

YES! Men respond in the same way (or even worse than) QT does, and she gets 100x more hate than they do.

[@jadengregg4832]

@@loune3799 ❤😂🎉😊😅

[@wooden_girl]

i love how this format alllows them to talk without being sidetracked from chat

[@snapper_maelstrom7960]

The cringiest part from QT's groomer story was mixing heineken with diet coke

[@liamobrien9451]

And drinking it multiple times because she was too cringe to admit it was vile 😢

[@alexanderstark5192]

She embraced the cringe

[@-user_name-]

It really wasn't though unfortunately that's the sad part

[@tamagotchispy]

you mean beluga whale story

[@lexers_5318]

Cringiest thing I’ve heard in the pod

[@pandemon1um560]

im currently here to say im loving that this is coming out weekly, completely forgot because i was used to monthly and am so happy because i finally have more ENTERTAINMENT🎉 and im also sounding off as one of the gay audience members (1:06:30 - 1:06:40)

[@julia6556]

"harry styles is not hot" is the most based thing maya has ever said

[@JIP214]

Dies of cringe

[@fancyLD]

horrible take

[@kate2706]

she’s so right

[@yoyup6976]

shut up

[@northshorewav]

@@fancyLD w maya take

[@marissabreitenstein9404]

Providing more positive comments to drown out the hate. Keep up the great work! Also, Maya, please don't feel negatively about not being about to articulate certain things related to past events. Some things simply can't be described well with words, especially emotions.

[@ArgyleDashwood]

Glad to see you two at least trying to persevere through all this trash. I'm a guy and I have to admit I used to have messed up views about women and sexualizing them but thankfully I've grown out of that and seen the error of my ways, when I actually listened to what woman had to say about it. Hopefully others can too. Penguin.

[@DjurslandsEfterskole]

Please help the guys around you grow. Unfortunately, that's the only way for things to change

[@TenaciousDealer]

Just wanna say absolutely loving the podcast, I wasn't really aware of you guys back when you started it the first time but since finding you i've been binging the old ones too. You're both hilarious and so engaging and I've since subbed to the Patreon. As someone who lost basically their entire 20's to depression and mental health issues (including some trauma and grief) it's been seriously refreshing to listen to you two describe your past experiences so frankly and openly. I can't quite explain how much it has helped me personally not only feel a little better about certain experiences but also realize the progress i've made since my 20's. Keep doing everything you're doing and being yourselves, you're two of the best examples of the good things a content creator can be and i'm mildly annoyed I didn't find you earlier 😅Also as one of the 76% male viewers I'll just say that neither of your appearances is even 1% of the reason I have enjoyed your content and become a fan, no doubt there's a lot of people that this isn't the case for but maybe at least that will make that 76% number feel a little less big. ps the Dear John moment is cringe but pretty funny and I bet younger QT felt pretty bad ass with that lmao Also... Penguin :S

[@crazytexan711]

Just want to say, QT going live on that day felt really powerful. That did have an impact on me at least, like you said imagining it being someone I know going through it. It’s really sad to see how much you have to go through, and that the best way for you is to not have to show emotion. It sucks that it’s come to that

[@polarbearsss]

one of the little things about this podcast that amuses me so much: i absolutely love whenever they refer to audio listeners. also penguin..

[@mivvy]

instead of losing physical copies of images from my past, i thought qt was about to talk about something i have always experienced: not sure how to describe it, but i'm 29 and i don't have a good recollection of my life between 16-23ish. i mostly remember the really bad or good moments, but it's almost like they never happened.

[@experimentalcyborg]

31, my memories from more than 5-10 years ago feel uncanny and fake like AI generated images.

[@mivvy]

@Experimental Cyborg i later on discovered it was due to trauma. speaking with someone definitely helped me a ton in regards to finding closure and better understanding my upbringing!

[@bukie477]

My heart sank when QT said she olny had one picture with her mother all things concidered

[@vitor2571]

You know the guy was a groomer when he stick around even after insane amounts of cringe. No regular person would be this invested

[@Dell-ol6hb]

lmaoo true

[@kayladavidson2518]

this pod is situated in such a perfect space to where discussions pertaining to women can be viewed by a male audience, i think a lot of women-led podcasts end up primarily with female viewers so this pod allows for these conversations to be normalized and i see a lot of men in the comments sharing that their view has changed, they recognize the issues etc. and i think that’s a great place to be (could certainly be better but at least it’s moving forward) and i think maya’s visualization for men is useful, it’s about something non-consensual that you wouldn’t want being seen and altering how people see you

[@kayladavidson2518]

also polar bear, if it were beluga whale then they would’ve stayed in touch until 18 and kept talking throughout and tried to escalate once they were 18 kinda like qt’s story (altho to be fair at the end of high school you do turn 18 so maybe penguin actually)

[@Wholenewcris]

Always come for the wine review and stay for the chaos

[@getsetready]

Coming back to this many month after the dfake shit i gotta say, QT, you going live was not a mistake. It helped so many people see and understand exactly what you wanted. It hurt my heart to see someone hurt so deeply and be so vulnerable, but it conveyed so much. You two are such amazing people thank you for chatting so openly about yourselves and feelings

[@jammie7822]

"anyway back to my romantic night with my groomer" took me out 💀

[@dumpsterfire902]

The cringiest part of QT's groomer story was the groomer.

[@tink6225]

most entertaining part of wine about it is QT and maya forgetting that they've told eachother the same story months before

[@EleanoRa99]

I hope at some point in the future QT and Maya can do the occasional in-person podcast. I miss them hanging out on their cute set and getting progressively drunker until they’re both wrapped in blankets and asking Lud to order food. I understand why they don’t want to go live anymore but I miss those cosy four-hour streams lmao

[@ditziie]

why did they stop doing it live?

[@kaidenrose9651]

Don't worry QT/Maya I am gay and I always look forward to your streams and this podcast! Both of you do an amazing job!

[@TheJoobel]

Big Penguin Energy for sure for sure

[@jodieloughran7429]

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[@piemaniaco3]

I did not get this comment until i finished the episode

[@allocat5867]

Love having Wine About It back!!

[@tristanvernooy4941]

People sometimes don't realize how fragile friendships are and how terribly easy it is to overstep and fuck up what were really good relationships.

[@ninin11]

qt’s response was super devastating and moving to me personally, i thought it was the realest it could possibly be, and i respected it a lot. i cried watching it lmao. so yeah, people are dicks, but i do think that it moved many people, and hopefully some of those that were moved were more neutral on the subject to begin with.

[@IamTyle316]

Listening to y’all dissect the “You Can’t see me” taunt is very amusing.

[@pux0rb]

I'm glad you two talked about the deepfake situation. I actually had no idea it affected both of you, I had only heard QT's name mentioned in the news. I still find it insane that there are dudes out there who see nothing wrong with the concept, and tell you you're making a big deal out of it. Its really not hard to imagine how violated a woman feels even though I live a completely different life from one. And don't apologize for "making it about you" It literally IS ABOUT YOU. You have every right to be offended and talk about it. There's definitely a lack of empathy from many guys, but I think it goes even further than that. I actually don't think they're intelligent enough to understand why it could be so damaging to someone, and it might just require some maturity with age. I remember when "the fappening" happened in 2014, when a bunch of celebrities had their nudes leaked, and thinking that it wasn't a big deal at the time. But after thinking about it for some time I realized how disgusting and violating it was that they didn't have a chance to consent to any of it. They didn't know it was even possible for it to get leaked, the same way a few years ago people wouldn't have conceived of deepfakes being a thing. I don't think the human brain is ready for this kind of disconnect.

[@joeliolioli4156]

My podcast trifecta is now complete, I get Wine About it, the Yard and Fear& every week, my commute boutta be stacked

[@ramsay2234]

Oh and Maya teaching those kids with cancer the hard lessons in life is… unexpected

[@maia-k]

It’s so demoralizing seeing the amount of people with rotten minds who can’t empathize and grasp consent, you guys are doing great keeping the conversation alive, don’t let them belittle you 🥺

[@joshgoodman3601]

As a wrestling fan, I am hereby requesting a 5 minute wrestling review on each podcast.

[@Marthentic]

QT seeing the insanity of Wrestling and then ending up kinda loving it makes me happy!

[@squalloogal]

Straight, female, mature viewer here who supports you for your storytelling and creative talent. I have no interest in either of you in any other way except as one humans care for another. You are supported. ❤

[@johngarcia3962]

I love that y’all use hasans jingle. “Wiiiiine aboutit

[@love4teacups]

Female ace viewer here! Lots of respect and appreciation for you both.

[@ShaneRob93]

There are way too many penguins out there in the world... Thank you for continuing Wine About It, I didn't find it until it was already 'ended', so it was great news when it was announced that it was coming back.

[@ButIer]

I was just whining about no Wine About It just for what I was whining about to now result in “uploaded 17 minutes ago” 😂

[@arouris4374]

Whining works folks, the science proves it

[@ButIer]

@@arouris4374 😭

[@Lyesaugh]

Almost had a stroke trying to read this

[@ButIer]

@@Lyesaugh I was going to add another Whine about about to make it more confusing so you’re lucky😂

[@troyworman6622]

The you can't see me thing is from his early years and stuck. It was about him saying that he was going to rise through the ranks so fast that people wouldn't see him at their level for long.

[@bakicci]

every story qt says is so funny and sad no wonder her humor is the best 😭

[@Konakuza]

Unexpected but i loved hearing QT talk about Wrestlemania. Life long fan and it’s always fun to hear what non wrestling fans think of the product negative or positive.

[@lexxi7049]

hey bartender tip here if you twist the part around the neck of the bottle instead of the cap it opens super easy every time!

[@MissMarvel_]

1:06:34 I'm a gay woman if I count for the gayge crowd. This is my favorite podcast, thank you for bringing it back! Penguin btw

[@LunaDavis-wo7ki]

I think the fact they dont like the wine is the best part because its funny everytime.

[@tap69]

As a male I’m saying this honestly nobody, outside of how you guys describe the toxic male dominate streamer community, in the real world with any respect from others shares the take that you guys should be okay with it or that it’s alright. Mayas point about imagining seeing yourself getting railed from behind by Johnny sins is a great example and I strongly believe the vocal minority of people are bringing down your guys morale about the world needlessly. We love you guys and stay strong I can’t imagine how hard it is!

[@bruncla2303]

i think it comes with an age and maturity. for me the deepfakes are similar with the fappening when the celebs nudes were leaked. i never stopped to consider how the women woudl feel. i was just thinking hot celebrity naked awesome. now i feel kinda ashamed for that and i feel its kinda similar to these deepfakes. its not that i didnt thought about women as people but me as a guy i never had to consider such a situation happening to me so i didnt have an understanding bcs i couldnt even imagine somebody would watch my photos for sexual gratification so its harder to figure out empathy. thats why i think her streaming while crying helps to understand the impact it can have on a person and build that empathy.

[@KingPinto23]

QT going live actually changed my perspective. I'm M23 and i was confused when it all went down. I was not really aware of the severity of the situation I was thinking ehh not that bad what's the big deal typical guy stuff then QT went live. Her reason for people to see their mom their sister and react was actually how i processed it and realized the situation. I guess what i'm trying to say is that going live wasn't the worst thing ever because I'm sure i'm not the only one that went though that perspective change.

[@tomboman200]

I came to this podcast as a brosef who basically only watched H3 and Hasanabi but now I will NEVER miss an episode of 'Wine About It'. I genuinely feel joy when I see a new pod up. I don't know specifically why I'm so addicted to this pod, maybe it's just the genuine friendship that is being captured here but please keep it up

[@shadowlink3602]

really hits hard hearing your experience with the deepfake situation. I get so much privilege as a man that i dont even recognize and its really shitty that the internet in general but especially the streaming space isnt a safer space for women

[@anafloreslol]

i feel so bad for maya bc bangs suit her so much and are being ruined by weirdos. if anything i think natasha leggero looks like riley reid and i think maya looks like maya from pen15.

[@Pux003]

As a Beluga whale, I've known some Polar Bears in my life, but that was definitely a Penguin.

[@craftypacaderm2095]

Also even if you'd never choose that route again, QT going live to show the impact I think really was powerful. You'll always get shitty people being shitty, but people who genuinely are deeply out of touch and don't know better, those people were capable of being moved. People can be redeemed, but they generally need guidance to get there. And that's exhausting for other people involved, so it's good to hear ya'll taking care of yourselves

[@undoing2]

Thanks for coming back to entertain us, gals!

[@jasonjavelin]

Man it is so good to have the fuckin pod back

[@laluna333]

I’m so glad this podcast is back. As a Woman in your audience it’s so refreshing to hear y’all just be real and honest about the shit we go through. Not sugar coated or hesitant to discuss it. I admire you two very much for your open honesty and vulnerability on here and just know that we relate a lot to you and share the same feelings. Being violated since a young age is completely traumatizing and something so many of us relate to. Especially with the frustration of being online without your consent and being posted by a trusted person is beyond violating and it’s confusing to go through. I feel for you and the way you discuss it is sooo relieving to know it’s not just me! Just know your female audience is here too and cares ❤️

[@santiagowho]

It really does suck that I can't talk about Maya's Conservation work or anything else on the platform without weird connections to stuff like she said. It makes it hard and pushes back the entire culture bc people dont actually understand stuff or the people doing things that matter.

[@kat8829]

Qt I thought that was exactly what people needed to see a real face and real impact of how it effected you I don’t think it was a mistake I was crying watching it

[@santiagowho]

We love an audio queen.

[@emibarron2919]

Penguin. Thanks for the entertainment, glad the podcast is back!

[@gwenttreebeard]

Having a Wine About It ep really made my evening!

[@jules32391]

As one of the 23% of girlies following you here and on twitch, I find your content relatable af and I really hope being on KZbin will help the other girlies find you too! 🥰🥰🥰

[@darkphoenix2]

Maya not knowing the difference between WWE and boxing was a moment for me

[@victoiredannsellier3195]

I usually don’t comment but just wanted you to know that i’m one of the lesbians that do watch you both, i watch your streams whenever i can

[@jamerz44]

I like how qt always updates audio-only listening with key visuals

[@kevincerda9533]

I start following because of the animal work maya does .. but now Im watching this for the first time . Such a good podcast 💪. Worth the watch and you both have every right to be upset about the deepfakes . Didn’t know anything about it but that’s low af . Stay strong ladies keep pushing and being bad asses 💪💪💪

[@chaoticlynn11]

Always looking forward to Wine About It Wednesdays !

[@chriscodraino5002]

been waiting all day for this, so glad its back!

[@swaghaver7]

The first half of this is nightmare fuel, I can't even imagine having to experience similar things.

[@swaghaver7]

nvm this entire thing is so heartbreaking, i cant even begin to comprehend it all.

[@meeeeee423]

Bro this is really gonna kill me cuz now i notice how fast a week goes by

[@Sly25]

Apparently over sharing is a common trauma response. My theory is that it's a way to process it but also share the experience to help the group if they have a similar situation. Kinda like how crows learn.

[@Dell-ol6hb]

I really like that you guys hate wine even though this is ostensibly a wine themed podcast

[@freakish1732]

I just love the fact that the first part they are just like this happens to me and the other goes that has literally never happened to ever XD

[@paullwrightt]

maybe this sounds odd, but regarding the male audience and sex discussion, i personally watch for the content exclusively. I loved watching mayas nature vids, and qt and Lud are so funny together, and then when they both started interacting with HASAN i got super excited and watch wine about it religiously now

[@londo4996]

About the "you should be a plumber" bit, the closest thing to that in my experience is being taller than my peers most of my life. I've heard "You should play basketball" on repeat since I've had memory.

[@jaredjenkins99]

This. Especially for tall, black boys